One thing I forgot to mention in the video is about the RAW vs JPEG - In Light room the only difference I noticed between Raw and JPEG was an exposure shift - no difference in colors - So maybe some Sim information does transfer over to the RAW now in 2024 .... BUT im a film dude ... I don't know digital stuff lol hope this helps clarify my findings
Was it AFTER you changed Adobe profile to Reala? (if not - stop reading) In that case a number of under-the-hood changes were applied similar to 'presets' - the difference only in collaboration efforts between Adobe and Fuji.
If you select lil drop down that says Adobe Color above the basic correction panel in LR and then select the film emulation you want, that should be a good starting point. What’s displayed in camera is a preview (look isn’t baked in) and what’s uploaded into Lightroom is the raw file so you still have to select the film emulation 🫠
The longer time goes on the more "anything can look like anything." I think the choice now comes down to a person's preferred process, and the reliability/versatility you so desire. I love film for the process, for the colors you get straight out of the roll, and most importantly: THE ADVANCE LEVER!
lol you have to cite your sources on that one because I don’t remember saying never. Hahahah also you gotta do what you gotta do for the vid you know….
I was going to say, why is this much of a concern? I'll often wind back to force double exposures and stuff, and it feels like no one ever thinks of it? Especially with a limited stock of film, I would have thought rolling it back would be the first thought.
I'm a Fuji X shooter. The JPEGS, and getting it right in camera, is where it's at. For me the RAW is a fallback for when exposure or white balance was off. Your raws need to have the Fuji film sim applied after you've imported the image into lightroom and in my opinion the raws don't output the exact same even with the profile applied. Specifically, there is so much flexibility to change the jpeg output in camera on Fuji compared to any other system. I would never claim its a substitute for the real thing, but I do feel like it's a half-step between digital and film. Anyways, fun episode and comparison.
Just bought my first ever roll of Fujifilm. A Velvia 100. They still sell them here in germany. I've always used Kodak Filmstock ever since. I'm really excited how Fuji will turn out on me! After I found some good things to shoot... 😅
Caleb just finished watching all your RUclips’s thanks for all the little secret sauce info. Keep it up. Also you just got mentioned on Grays of Westminster’s live Fridays channel.
@@BadFlashes it’s a camera shop in London that is the oldest Nikon dealership in England. Really neat place and Gray who owns the shop is a very knowledgeable guy. Also Kon is the man behind the mic on the RUclips channel. It’s been Friday ritual with me for the last two years to watch(when working doesn’t interfere). They talk film and digital and all brands of cameras.
You did an amazing job with the film simulations. It makes me want to shoot more digital masquerading as film... As horrible as that sounds. I think the details of post work color correcting the digital to match the film is interesting. Many people will say "It was edited", but so are film scans. Everybody ignores that even scans from a developing company are color balanced. We just don't like going down that thought path too far because then we realize all our obsession about "Tonez" is mostly fabricated.
I've been adjusting the Reala Ace film simulation in my XT-5 in order to get the closest look to the origin Reala 100 film. I set the WB to 5000K, R-1 B+1, H-0.5 S+0.5, color+4 sharpness-2, CCE strong CCB weak. And EV range from +1 to +2. I don't know if I am doing it correctly but I think it's pretty good.
Enjoyable. It just needed the Mamiya around your neck alongside the Leica and the Fuji. A triple decker. And an ode to Hopper - no Jason not him ( the other one ) Denis in Apocalypse Now.
xtra superia 400 is my favorite, i just snagged the last few boxes from the Rite Aids around my city since they're going out of business :( its great seeing people try older films, especially Fuji! i really want to get my hands on some Acros II it looks so pretty.
Loved this comparison! I thought these films were gone forever and never thought this comparison was possible! One thing I'm still curious, is that in my experience with fuji cameras and film simulations is that the .jpgs are the real juice! Usually they work better with +2/3 or +1 stops over. RAW files don't bake-in the simulation goodness, only the white balance. Would be nice to know if this makes any difference, but that one for another video! Still very insightful :)
Thanks for the love! One thing I noticed was that the JPG looked very very similar to the RAW ... only ting that I saw was an exposure difference ... I thought that was weird as well bc all ive ever known was that the raw had not sim info .... I'm not an expert with FUJI digital stuff but that's what I noticed ... maybe things have changed since the days of old
The pictures look great and I can tell that the films were well-preserved; I shot a 35mm of Reala back in mid 2020 that wasn’t refrigerated and the pictures were super blue and grainy as hell 🙃
Beautiful shots as always, and you can never go wrong with Fuji Pro 400H, I have a few rolls of 120 in the fridge. I’m gonna miss it when they are gone though.
Me while watching this video owning an X-Pro 3: Yes, Caleb. Give in. Buy an X-Pro 3 with one of those native FujiX Voigtlander manual lenses with electronic contacts. Closest thing you'll get to shooting film with a digital camera. I'd be thrilled to see you continue this thing with other film emulsions if you ever get the chance to have any of those elusive Fuji film stocks like Astia (which is my go-to film sim for everyday shots).
@@BadFlashes I have used basically every major brands digital cameras and the fuji xpro was the one that came closest to the "magic" of analog shooting. maybe i should try a digital leica, i guess those would do the trick, too.
I liked modern superia but it definitely wouldn't stand a chance against that reala or reala sim. if you can get your hands on superia premium that would be cool. as far I know it's slightly less grainy, and has more accurate colors
What surprised me is how digital Reala ace film looked 😂 Its also my observation when shooting pro400h on box speed. The XT50 is pretty close with the real deal here it seemed
Nice comparison! Dude, I had to edit my settings over and over again when i was trying to nail a Kodak gold 200 simulation. Ive gotten close but still have to tweak it here and there depending on the environment. You can ask Chat gtp to help you create simulations and it usually creates a great starting point 😂
@@BadFlashes phew! I thought when you said you just used raw and had to colour correct you went from a flat raw image. I guess Lightroom’s interpretation of the profile isn’t as close to the camera or the film.
Can't lie...my X-T5 has just been collecting dust :/ But I'm gonna pick it back up soon, and when I do...Reala Ace is gonna be the first order of business. Thanks for sharing man !
After losing way too many images from leaving lens caps on rangefinders, I tossed my lens caps and rely on UV filters or lens hoods to protect the front glass.
It’s my understanding that the raw files are just raw files on the Fuji and only the JPEGs would have the Reala film sim applied so it makes sense the raws looked like regular raw files
good video, I enjoyed it, personally comparing fuji jpeg file to film is much better I think because when to shoot JPEG you need to change adobe color profile to fuji reala ace color profile. fuji raw file doesnt contain any film simulation at all like others cameras so there nothing special with it. In order to get film simulation on raw file need to change the adobe color profile to reala ace color profile in lightroom
Really fun to see comparisons like this! Did you keep all the settings in the X-T50 on 0? Or did you change the contrast and color and stuff? Doesn’t matter for RAW, but since it’s a comparison of the film sim to actual film, only jpeg matters right? (Though jpeg+raw is probably the best way to go imo.) And would you do comparisons like this for some of the other film sims? I’d love to see one for Classic Neg (assuming that is based on real film (I’m not a film photographer)).
Hey!!!!! The settings were all at zero :) And at some point, yeah I think it’ll be really cool to go through and test all the simulations against the film counterpart …. Some day
@@BadFlashes And I shot exclusively on Minolta X700's back then. Now I work at Fujifilm and shoot Kodak Portra on Nikons. Film has exploded here in the UK, not literally, but all the 20 something's love it. I still can't believe I used to shoot weddings on film. We must have had balls of steel back then waiting for the films to go through the film processor. When I went over to Canon Eos 1 cameras OMG how easy was that. Best camera to hold in the hand, auto focus and auto wind on. Now I'm back to my trusty Nikon FM2N. Film is where it's at. Excellent channel btw.
Can we get a Classic Negative sim versus Fuji superia (non kodak one)??? But JPG please. No RAW Lightroom. If you go Lightroom you gotta do camera matching and reapply the right sim. But easier to do JPG!
Back in the day when I started my family, I got into colour negative films (before that I was heavy user of slide films), course the whole childhood of my child was shot mostly with Fujicolor Superia 100 (I guess that was the name of that film in this part of the world), only rarely swept for Kodak Gold 100 is Fuji wasn't available. And now both of those film stocks are discontinued... 🤯😭🤬
I’m curious about this too… I don’t have a Fuji, but I assumed the film simulation modes were for baking into the jpgs. I assumed that if you setup a scene and take raws in each film simulation mode, all the raws would look identical. Is that not the case?
ok soooooo im new at this... I don't take my word as gospel As far as I could tell in 2024 the Raw images are close to the JPEG ALSO.... There is a Reala Profile in Light room When comparing the JPEG vs RAW in light room all I had to do was apply that Reala Profile and the Raw Snapped into the same look at the JPEG ..... overall the thing I noticed the most was not color but exposure ... so it just up the exposure then I could go from there.... I think the Raw's used to not hold color info from the Sim but maybe now they do ... I equate the exposure difference bewtween the JPEG and Raw to be the same as if you shoot with say a drone and save both JPEG and DNG ... there is only an exposure difference because of the extra information stored BUT IDK hope this helped
@@BadFlashes thank you for responding kind sir! You are a gentleman and a scholar. If I ever get my hands on a Fuji, I’ll certainly have to play with the profiles in RAW.
hello ! do you ever try a ghostless filter from Pentax ?( i love the looks this filter gives ,is little hard to find in good condition nowadays,I really like your pictures ! 👍
Is a filter from the 70s ish ( with "nostalgic gold/brown looks ") : ' the curved surface of this U.V. filter is supposed to eliminate the ghost images which sometimes appear on film when pictures are taken against neon signs, street lights etc '
Nice video! Slight problem tho. U used XT50 raw files. The Reala Ace film sim only affects the JPEGs. Those raw files would’ve looked the same no matter what film sim u used. Need to compare the JPEGs to yr 35 and 120 shots 😬
@@BadFlashesya I saw that. I literally think the reala ace sim is just so close to their raw (and true to life) u wouldn’t have seen a diff. Now if u shot a B&W film sim u would see that film sims in fact do not affect raw (other than the DR setting)
Also came here to say Fuji jpegs is where it's at as Lightroom won't give all the character Fuji have worked on. DR400 and -0.7 expo comp 800 ISO to 1600 ISO is how i have my XT1 setup. It's a casual shooter when my Sonys are my work cams.
How do you actually create a valid comparison when every film lab / scanner creates different results? I’m really asking this myself because this stuff keeps me up at night 😅
I mean that's kinda what I pose at the end of this video ... it's hard to do so sometimes ... at the end of the day I try to kill as many variables and I can and then go from there
I don't understand how the Fujifilm simulations work. I thought it only applied it to the JPEG, not the raw files? I have been thinking about one of these cameras and looking into it, but I thought it required you to shoot JPEGs. So, I'm confused by the video here when he is talking about how the raw files don't look like film. I didn't expect the film simulation to be applied to the raw file. Am I dumb? Can anyone clarify?
As shown at 11:06, Caleb edited the specific image with "Adobe color" profile. AFAIK if I want to edit the raw but from the simulation results I would choose profiles from "camera matching". I am not sure if Caleb did try to start editing from that but he did bring those raw close to the film scans.
Im generally confused tooo but check out my comment on @idknothing7893 comment on this video ... that's something else I noticed between the RAW and the JPEG
My hope is that with Fuji’s latest investment into film production, they might be after a slice of Kodak’s lucrative motion picture cake… if they’re looking to get a return on investment, bringing back their motion picture stocks would be a sure fire way to do it
Your raw files from the fuji are not automatically applying the film simulation when you open it in Lightroom, it kind of defaults to regular raw, only the jpegs have the simulation, or I think you can choose the reala simulation in profiles in Lightroom with the raw file. So its not that weird that your raw files looked neutral and like any other raw file, because they are 😅 kind of annoying tho, wish it just added it to the raw automatically too.
@@BadFlashes The pictures are really nice. Still trying to get used to it. I don't really like doing any editing in post and like to get good images in-camera, and the film sim is probably the best way to do that with a digital camera.
Nooooo, not Caleb doing the 'Film Photographer tries Fujifilm digital camera' -> 'Former Film Photographer now only uses Fujifilm digital camera until viewership drops' pipeline Reala Ace looks really sweet. Sure would like it if Fujifilm brought back Fuji...films. I wonder if there are any 65/70mm reels of the 500D good stuff out there. Loading some in bulk for use in medium format cameras sure sounds like a fun (albeit expensive time)
hahahah I mean that wasn't the premise ... there was only one way to see if the new sim looked the same as sexy film lol but yeah REALA is sick AF and im not sure if there is any 65 bulk
@@BadFlashes I would! The most common comment I get with it is "Never sell that camera," or "I sold that camera and I really regret it!" I certainly do not plan to sell mine anytime soon... maybe when/if an XP4 arrives. But for now,, chimp free since 23 hahaha.. pair mine with the Mitakon Speedmaster 35 0.95 and it's a dream.
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One thing I forgot to mention in the video is about the RAW vs JPEG
- In Light room the only difference I noticed between Raw and JPEG was an exposure shift - no difference in colors
- So maybe some Sim information does transfer over to the RAW now in 2024 .... BUT im a film dude ... I don't know digital stuff lol
hope this helps clarify my findings
Was it AFTER you changed Adobe profile to Reala? (if not - stop reading) In that case a number of under-the-hood changes were applied similar to 'presets' - the difference only in collaboration efforts between Adobe and Fuji.
If you select lil drop down that says Adobe Color above the basic correction panel in LR and then select the film emulation you want, that should be a good starting point. What’s displayed in camera is a preview (look isn’t baked in) and what’s uploaded into Lightroom is the raw file so you still have to select the film emulation 🫠
So much learning I need to do 😆
I’ll get it someday
What lens did you have on the X-T50? The corners are really soft (despite the fact that you were probably only using the centre of the lens)...
Damn, I paused the video right before you started talking about the lens... :D
The longer time goes on the more "anything can look like anything." I think the choice now comes down to a person's preferred process, and the reliability/versatility you so desire. I love film for the process, for the colors you get straight out of the roll, and most importantly: THE ADVANCE LEVER!
100000%
So there , right there with ya
I remember the time when Caleb and Jason were like, "I'll never shoot with APS-C cameras"... Caleb gave in... Jason stay strong!
lol you have to cite your sources on that one because I don’t remember saying never. Hahahah also you gotta do what you gotta do for the vid you know….
@@BadFlashes oh shiii.... my bad, it was about APS-C Film....
And yeah, source:
YT channel: grainydays
Vid: 1 Week on Route 66
Timing: 1:28:16
Dont they both use Mirrorless cameras to shoot their videos? 🤔
Oh yeah. APS film sucks. I still stand by that shit. Hahahaha
@@classic.cameras Jason sometimes use A7 for shooting photos lol
I love me some new Bad Flashes content, and love Fujicolor. Miss the old Reala a lot, an old favorite film of mine.
I definitely miss a lot of the stocks … sad 😢 🐼
If you even leave your lenscap on, you can just rewind your roll. Just make sure to leave the leader out, and now you can start from from 1 again
that is what I actually did. Just didn't show that part in this video 🤪
I was going to say, why is this much of a concern? I'll often wind back to force double exposures and stuff, and it feels like no one ever thinks of it? Especially with a limited stock of film, I would have thought rolling it back would be the first thought.
Oh man, a new Bad Flashes drop and anything else I was doing goes out the window! Thanks for yet another great episode!
For about 20min at least 🤪
I'm a Fuji X shooter. The JPEGS, and getting it right in camera, is where it's at. For me the RAW is a fallback for when exposure or white balance was off. Your raws need to have the Fuji film sim applied after you've imported the image into lightroom and in my opinion the raws don't output the exact same even with the profile applied. Specifically, there is so much flexibility to change the jpeg output in camera on Fuji compared to any other system.
I would never claim its a substitute for the real thing, but I do feel like it's a half-step between digital and film.
Anyways, fun episode and comparison.
thanks! ☺️
Just bought my first ever roll of Fujifilm. A Velvia 100. They still sell them here in germany. I've always used Kodak Filmstock ever since. I'm really excited how Fuji will turn out on me! After I found some good things to shoot... 😅
Fuji slide film is beautiful
Caleb just finished watching all your RUclips’s thanks for all the little secret sauce info. Keep it up. Also you just got mentioned on Grays of Westminster’s live Fridays channel.
Thanks for all the love glad you’re here. :)
What’s Gray of Westminsters??????
I hope they said nice things lol
@@BadFlashes it’s a camera shop in London that is the oldest Nikon dealership in England. Really neat place and Gray who owns the shop is a very knowledgeable guy. Also Kon is the man behind the mic on the RUclips channel. It’s been Friday ritual with me for the last two years to watch(when working doesn’t interfere). They talk film and digital and all brands of cameras.
You did an amazing job with the film simulations. It makes me want to shoot more digital masquerading as film... As horrible as that sounds.
I think the details of post work color correcting the digital to match the film is interesting. Many people will say "It was edited", but so are film scans. Everybody ignores that even scans from a developing company are color balanced. We just don't like going down that thought path too far because then we realize all our obsession about "Tonez" is mostly fabricated.
Totallllly!!!!!
Once I got into the darkroom and realized I could “edit” my photos with enlarging. That was it. Game over.
Slide, Charlie Brown, SLIDE!
Or trade in Paul Simon for Ansel Adams.
@mikejankowski6321 😝
I've been adjusting the Reala Ace film simulation in my XT-5 in order to get the closest look to the origin Reala 100 film.
I set the WB to 5000K, R-1 B+1, H-0.5 S+0.5, color+4 sharpness-2, CCE strong CCB weak. And EV range from +1 to +2.
I don't know if I am doing it correctly but I think it's pretty good.
Oh nice!!! That’s solid. I’d probably adjust myself if I had one :)
Enjoyable. It just needed the Mamiya around your neck alongside the Leica and the Fuji.
A triple decker.
And an ode to Hopper - no Jason not him ( the other one ) Denis in Apocalypse Now.
Hahahahahhahahaha love
Found your vlog via the Fujilove podcast with the one and only Marc Sadowski ... you have a new sub! Love this Reala Ace comparison!!!
Ahhh yay!!!!! Happy to have you here!😁🥳
xtra superia 400 is my favorite, i just snagged the last few boxes from the Rite Aids around my city since they're going out of business :(
its great seeing people try older films, especially Fuji! i really want to get my hands on some Acros II it looks so pretty.
Do it. Party with some black and white!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🍾🎞️🔥
I love Jason's humor, "MaYbE tHeY'Ll StILl tUrN oUt!"
Hahaaha
You can always count on Jason's optimism
@AToutProductions hahahaha
Loved this comparison! I thought these films were gone forever and never thought this comparison was possible! One thing I'm still curious, is that in my experience with fuji cameras and film simulations is that the .jpgs are the real juice! Usually they work better with +2/3 or +1 stops over. RAW files don't bake-in the simulation goodness, only the white balance. Would be nice to know if this makes any difference, but that one for another video! Still very insightful :)
Thanks for the love!
One thing I noticed was that the JPG looked very very similar to the RAW ... only ting that I saw was an exposure difference ... I thought that was weird as well bc all ive ever known was that the raw had not sim info .... I'm not an expert with FUJI digital stuff but that's what I noticed ... maybe things have changed since the days of old
The pictures look great and I can tell that the films were well-preserved; I shot a 35mm of Reala back in mid 2020 that wasn’t refrigerated and the pictures were super blue and grainy as hell 🙃
oh bummer ... yeah I kinda knew this was going to be good shit
Awesome comparison. Nice to see how close the fuji film simulations are to the real thing.
🎞️
watching this make me jump out of couch grab my XT3 and start shooting some photos outside
Do it!!!!!
Hey I think I sent you that 120 roll of Reala with a bunch of Portra 160VC and 160NC. Glad to see it get used!
Omgggggg that was you!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
Thanks so much. This was such a fun fun video :)
@@BadFlashes if that was your only roll of it then it must’ve been me. lol it was a few years ago that I sent that
@foggygray it was and it was still so intact! LOVEED IT … now i miss reala lol
Thanks so much
@@BadFlashes I miss it too! I still have a 35mm roll in my fridge that I’m reluctant to shoot with.
A lot of bangers coming out of the cameras.
😍😍😍😍
Beautiful shots as always, and you can never go wrong with Fuji Pro 400H, I have a few rolls of 120 in the fridge. I’m gonna miss it when they are gone though.
yeah ... it is a good one for sure
and thanks :)
crank that digital fuji dynamic range to DR400 and you get even more room to play with
Correct! This is infact the only setting that affects the Raw files. If u shoot lower than DR400 u can never get that max dynamic range back
that Is good to know ... I could have been on that setting tho but idk
@@BadFlashesIt does require your ISO to be at 800 though.
@@gettoana that setting also increases noise quite a bit. It’s a double edged sword.
Honestly, loved the look of that film, and I definitely need to try to get a roll to try it out !
I haven't checked, yet, but does it exists in 16mm?
It might?????
@@BadFlashes well I just checked, it exists, and there's some on ebay right now !
I love your road trips! Interesting comparison. As for the ad, funny, I'm actually going to Morocco in Sept.!
No way!!!! Well maybe you need a VPN lol
Me while watching this video owning an X-Pro 3: Yes, Caleb. Give in. Buy an X-Pro 3 with one of those native FujiX Voigtlander manual lenses with electronic contacts. Closest thing you'll get to shooting film with a digital camera.
I'd be thrilled to see you continue this thing with other film emulsions if you ever get the chance to have any of those elusive Fuji film stocks like Astia (which is my go-to film sim for everyday shots).
Oh I didn’t know Voigt had native lenses.
Damn …. Makes a boy think
I already have your undying love and affection for shooting film..
😍😍😍
Makes me miss my Xpro2. Best digital out of cam stuff I ever had.
I heard those are amazing
@@BadFlashes I have used basically every major brands digital cameras and the fuji xpro was the one that came closest to the "magic" of analog shooting. maybe i should try a digital leica, i guess those would do the trick, too.
I can tell you …. Yeah digi leicas are that sauce lol 😝
@@BadFlashes 👉🥴👈
I liked modern superia but it definitely wouldn't stand a chance against that reala or reala sim. if you can get your hands on superia premium that would be cool. as far I know it's slightly less grainy, and has more accurate colors
LOVE LOVE LOVE Premium ... have shot it before so good
Loved this! Please do a review on your 16mm Aaton 🙏
Deal!
What surprised me is how digital Reala ace film looked 😂 Its also my observation when shooting pro400h on box speed. The XT50 is pretty close with the real deal here it seemed
Eh kinda. Sometimes. Lol
Great video Caleb. Would be nice to see something similar in the future but somewhere the colors are not just green and blue 😁
Sorry that’s all Wyoming has to offer!!! lol 😝
Nice comparison! Dude, I had to edit my settings over and over again when i was trying to nail a Kodak gold 200 simulation. Ive gotten close but still have to tweak it here and there depending on the environment. You can ask Chat gtp to help you create simulations and it usually creates a great starting point 😂
haha no way that is crazy
Did you add the Reala profile in Lightroom to the raw images and edit from scratch? That would have given you a better starting point than actual raw.
Yep did that 🫡🤙🏼🙌🏼🎞️
@@BadFlashes phew! I thought when you said you just used raw and had to colour correct you went from a flat raw image. I guess Lightroom’s interpretation of the profile isn’t as close to the camera or the film.
I think we learned that Fujifilm's digital simulation of its Reala film is really, really good!
Hahaha that’s what you learned. Lol 😝
Can't lie...my X-T5 has just been collecting dust :/ But I'm gonna pick it back up soon, and when I do...Reala Ace is gonna be the first order of business. Thanks for sharing man !
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awwwwww thanks yo!!!! GO OUT AND SHOOT :)
informative and entertaining af. good stuff!
Much appreciated!
Ugh. Bummed that I don't have reala on my xpro3.
Reala was my go to c41 film back in the day
I bet you can make a sim for it
@@BadFlashes I do have a recipe already cooked up..but nothing like having a Fuji stamp of approval on it. I'll live 😎
After losing way too many images from leaving lens caps on rangefinders, I tossed my lens caps and rely on UV filters or lens hoods to protect the front glass.
Makes sense, I dig
"MAYBE WE WILL STILL HANGOUT" 😂
🌪️🍾🎞️🔥
It’s my understanding that the raw files are just raw files on the Fuji and only the JPEGs would have the Reala film sim applied so it makes sense the raws looked like regular raw files
check my pinned comment :)
good video, I enjoyed it, personally comparing fuji jpeg file to film is much better I think because when to shoot JPEG you need to change adobe color profile to fuji reala ace color profile. fuji raw file doesnt contain any film simulation at all like others cameras so there nothing special with it. In order to get film simulation on raw file need to change the adobe color profile to reala ace color profile in lightroom
Thanks! That’s what I ended up doing for sure. I know I could be better at the Fuji workflow but also … my first time shooting it hahah
The highlight detail on the film shots looks Superiaer to the digital.
Tots
Really fun to see comparisons like this! Did you keep all the settings in the X-T50 on 0? Or did you change the contrast and color and stuff? Doesn’t matter for RAW, but since it’s a comparison of the film sim to actual film, only jpeg matters right? (Though jpeg+raw is probably the best way to go imo.)
And would you do comparisons like this for some of the other film sims? I’d love to see one for Classic Neg (assuming that is based on real film (I’m not a film photographer)).
Hey!!!!!
The settings were all at zero :)
And at some point, yeah I think it’ll be really cool to go through and test all the simulations against the film counterpart …. Some day
I used to shoot Reala at weddings back in the 90's and I was working at Kodak at the time. Total rebel back then.
Oh damn. You so are!!!!
@@BadFlashes
And I shot exclusively on Minolta X700's back then. Now I work at Fujifilm and shoot Kodak Portra on Nikons. Film has exploded here in the UK, not literally, but all the 20 something's love it. I still can't believe I used to shoot weddings on film. We must have had balls of steel back then waiting for the films to go through the film processor. When I went over to Canon Eos 1 cameras OMG how easy was that. Best camera to hold in the hand, auto focus and auto wind on. Now I'm back to my trusty Nikon FM2N. Film is where it's at. Excellent channel btw.
Can we get a Classic Negative sim versus Fuji superia (non kodak one)??? But JPG please. No RAW Lightroom. If you go Lightroom you gotta do camera matching and reapply the right sim. But easier to do JPG!
I’ll see what I can get on loan lol
Back in the day when I started my family, I got into colour negative films (before that I was heavy user of slide films), course the whole childhood of my child was shot mostly with Fujicolor Superia 100 (I guess that was the name of that film in this part of the world), only rarely swept for Kodak Gold 100 is Fuji wasn't available.
And now both of those film stocks are discontinued... 🤯😭🤬
I know. It’s a sad world we live in :(
15:05 I thought the simulations only got applied to JPEGs. Am I wrong about that?
There is a profile in LR that turns switches the raw to the look. I used that as a base
How did the jpg files look on the fuji, because on my xt3 they raw version always looks worse then the jpg
I’m curious about this too… I don’t have a Fuji, but I assumed the film simulation modes were for baking into the jpgs. I assumed that if you setup a scene and take raws in each film simulation mode, all the raws would look identical. Is that not the case?
ok soooooo im new at this... I don't take my word as gospel
As far as I could tell in 2024 the Raw images are close to the JPEG ALSO.... There is a Reala Profile in Light room
When comparing the JPEG vs RAW in light room all I had to do was apply that Reala Profile and the Raw Snapped into the same look at the JPEG ..... overall the thing I noticed the most was not color but exposure ... so it just up the exposure then I could go from there....
I think the Raw's used to not hold color info from the Sim but maybe now they do ...
I equate the exposure difference bewtween the JPEG and Raw to be the same as if you shoot with say a drone and save both JPEG and DNG ... there is only an exposure difference because of the extra information stored
BUT IDK hope this helped
I actually wanted more time with the Xt50 to test other things since im so new at that whole workflow
@@BadFlashes thank you for responding kind sir! You are a gentleman and a scholar. If I ever get my hands on a Fuji, I’ll certainly have to play with the profiles in RAW.
Interestingly the Fujifilm XT50 body is only slightly larger than a Minolta Zoom Mk11 (110 film camera) body.
Oh cra
hello ! do you ever try a ghostless filter from Pentax ?( i love the looks this filter gives ,is little hard to find in good condition nowadays,I really like your pictures ! 👍
what no... what is it?
Is a filter from the 70s ish ( with "nostalgic gold/brown looks ") : ' the curved surface of this U.V. filter is supposed to eliminate the ghost images which sometimes appear on film when pictures are taken against neon signs, street lights etc '
generally feel 120>digital>35 for this. Although you should expose for highlights on some of the digital shots. Probably GFX would beat them all.
I would love to get my hands on one of those
"The new superia" is ultramax lmao good video though caleb :) 👍
Yeah. Love some MAX but variety would be nice
The simulation on the digital actually doesn't look all that bad compared to the original after tweaking. I have it on my xt5 but haven't used it yet.
personal preference I think.... those Raw's are so flexible
just like I used to be hahahahaha
Nice video! Slight problem tho. U used XT50 raw files. The Reala Ace film sim only affects the JPEGs. Those raw files would’ve looked the same no matter what film sim u used. Need to compare the JPEGs to yr 35 and 120 shots 😬
Check out the pinned comment ... I also compared jpg to raw off video
@@BadFlashesya I saw that. I literally think the reala ace sim is just so close to their raw (and true to life) u wouldn’t have seen a diff. Now if u shot a B&W film sim u would see that film sims in fact do not affect raw (other than the DR setting)
That being said, your color grading of the raw was remarkable!
Was that a power shot A-1 Jason was rockin’?
I can't remember lol
@@BadFlashes I saw the red surround around the viewfinder and the grey grip… I think the water resistant but not waterproof one had a red grip… 🤷♂️😸
Also came here to say Fuji jpegs is where it's at as Lightroom won't give all the character Fuji have worked on. DR400 and -0.7 expo comp 800 ISO to 1600 ISO is how i have my XT1 setup. It's a casual shooter when my Sonys are my work cams.
That makes sense.. I learned a lot from this… wish I knew it before hahaha
How do you actually create a valid comparison when every film lab / scanner creates different results?
I’m really asking this myself because this stuff keeps me up at night 😅
I mean that's kinda what I pose at the end of this video ... it's hard to do so sometimes ... at the end of the day I try to kill as many variables and I can and then go from there
@@BadFlashesI commented too early. Just got to the part and thought “why didn’t I wait”.
Love it that you address this!
I don't understand how the Fujifilm simulations work. I thought it only applied it to the JPEG, not the raw files? I have been thinking about one of these cameras and looking into it, but I thought it required you to shoot JPEGs. So, I'm confused by the video here when he is talking about how the raw files don't look like film. I didn't expect the film simulation to be applied to the raw file. Am I dumb? Can anyone clarify?
You are correct, the simulations only apply to the jpegs, the raw files are just that, raw.
@@stevelongphoto Thank you!
As shown at 11:06, Caleb edited the specific image with "Adobe color" profile. AFAIK if I want to edit the raw but from the simulation results I would choose profiles from "camera matching".
I am not sure if Caleb did try to start editing from that but he did bring those raw close to the film scans.
Im generally confused tooo but check out my comment on @idknothing7893 comment on this video ... that's something else I noticed between the RAW and the JPEG
Oo great video! Did you ever use the motion picture film you were given? That'd be cool to see.
Yes I did ... but like a long time ago ... im going to re - test it soon
If you shoot with the cap on the lens, you could easily rewind the film and start shooting again.
that's what I ended up doing ... just didn't shot it in the video 👍🏻
My hope is that with Fuji’s latest investment into film production, they might be after a slice of Kodak’s lucrative motion picture cake… if they’re looking to get a return on investment, bringing back their motion picture stocks would be a sure fire way to do it
Would be cool that’s for sure
What lens are you using on the x t50? Loving the compactness
A 21mm F4 voigtlander color skopar
Would love to see the "lens cap on" series of photos please👌
hahah I rewound the film and exposed those black frames again ... that was the images at the end of the vid
I don't understand why they don’t do straight up 400H or 160 exact copies 🤷 People would go mental over them
Yeah I’m not sure 🤔
Fun vid, man! You might try DR400 for better highlight retention. Just sayin'!
maybe if I get another loner from fuji lol
but that is a great note :)
@@BadFlashes Yep, enable the DR Priority and the camera will use its native ISO 640 to retain the most dynamic range
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That news caster guy looks really familiar. What a handsome devil he is.
Oh la la
I want to tryyyyyy
🥳🥳🥳🥳 maybe eBay has some good stock!?!?!? 😬
I got the reala on an update, thanks for the heads up
Sick!!!!!!
Did you shoot raw+jpeg?
Yep.
Your raw files from the fuji are not automatically applying the film simulation when you open it in Lightroom, it kind of defaults to regular raw, only the jpegs have the simulation, or I think you can choose the reala simulation in profiles in Lightroom with the raw file. So its not that weird that your raw files looked neutral and like any other raw file, because they are 😅 kind of annoying tho, wish it just added it to the raw automatically too.
Yep yep yep. That’s actually what I ended up doing :)
Many digital users claim the Fujifilm software (or Capture One) does a better job than Lr in interpreting/transforming XTrans output.
ohhhhh interesting! Good note
I picked up an X Pro 3 because it was so similar to an actual film camera. Of course they had to discontinue it lol
And how do you like it?
@@BadFlashes The pictures are really nice. Still trying to get used to it. I don't really like doing any editing in post and like to get good images in-camera, and the film sim is probably the best way to do that with a digital camera.
X Pro 5 on its way
Hahahaa sure it is.
What camera u using fir for filming this video?
Sony A7iv
@@BadFlashes nice
to get the fuji film simulation right out of the camera you need to shoot in fine+raw to get the jpg or else raw is just raw
Check the pinned comment
Nooooo, not Caleb doing the 'Film Photographer tries Fujifilm digital camera' -> 'Former Film Photographer now only uses Fujifilm digital camera until viewership drops' pipeline
Reala Ace looks really sweet. Sure would like it if Fujifilm brought back Fuji...films. I wonder if there are any 65/70mm reels of the 500D good stuff out there. Loading some in bulk for use in medium format cameras sure sounds like a fun (albeit expensive time)
hahahah I mean that wasn't the premise ... there was only one way to see if the new sim looked the same as sexy film lol
but yeah REALA is sick AF
and im not sure if there is any 65 bulk
Sadly Superia 400 is also discontinued now. It jist Fuji 400 now (rebranded Ultramax 400)
OH F that's right ..... oh fuji .... I do love ultramax tho
@BadFlashes yeah I prefer it over superia personally. This Reala looks super clean though 👌
How are the sooc jpgs compare to the analog shots?
very similar ... I only noticed an exposure Difference between the JPG and the Raw ... but a minor one
ok but where can we buy that shirt
Maybe I should have a second run
@@BadFlashes we need a mamiyamigos shirt too!!
Sick. Ok
Reala 120 is *Chefs Kiss
So so good
NEW VIDEO DAY!!
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I always think the guys developing my film know it’s from my Leica cause half the pictures had the lens cap on .. 😂
Hahahahaha
Lmfao that shirt.
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The 120 reala is kinda similar to the digital.
4sho
But 120 is bosss
Seagulls!
The XPro 3 IS fine ! 👀😂
should I ???????
@@BadFlashes I would! The most common comment I get with it is "Never sell that camera," or "I sold that camera and I really regret it!" I certainly do not plan to sell mine anytime soon... maybe when/if an XP4 arrives. But for now,, chimp free since 23 hahaha.. pair mine with the Mitakon Speedmaster 35 0.95 and it's a dream.
This would be the third time I saw you and Jason upload a video at the same time. Was there an agreement behind this? 🤣
haha only the third ?????
dawg .... 3 years and running lol 😝
These guys ride or die together..mamiyamigos for life!!
reala was a good film!
RIGHT! so fresh
Video @ 4:00 - Hey Caleb, tell Jason that he can't fire off a picture with his Dark Slide still in...
lol. We allllll do it 😆
(Yes I’m commenting as I watch, instead of after… :P)
Hahaha do live tweeting begins ????
Fuji, how about bringing back some films dam it!
Bring it back!!!!
Man,, if you're going to paint your nails at least put a Leica red dot or a Nikon red slash on them. Aren't you a photographer?
Ummmmm I do what I want
But like … that’s a great idea 😝
Thanks for that 😘
Just to be really different, the blue banded circle of Minolta.
Oh yeah. Each finger is a different camera brand
You said “X Pro 2” wrong. 😉
Yeah? Lol
@@BadFlashesXp3 has too many snappy issues. XP2 = absolute tank.
@PhilMakesThings Hahahha goat 🐐
Hell yeah
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Fuji becoming popular I guess
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Kodak is apparently working on a 400D motion picture stock 🧀
i’ll believe it when I see it. Haha
But I’ve heard rumblings
What is real?
Nothing 😛
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Wanna borrow a GFX 100 II to stack up against your Mamiya? Make it a fair fight yah know?
Hahahaba i should do that shouldn’t I
Hmmm...digital..... 😋
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