(2:22) Well... no, EOS 650 was NOT the first Canon's autofocusing camera, course there was Canon T80, based on a FD mount, introduced in 1986. Agreed, short lived, and I believe it was more of a test bed. But even before that, Canon made the FD35-70mm f/4 AF, which could autofocus independently of the camera, what was in 1981. Just saying...
Can't sleep on the EOS line of cameras. I always found it odd how people will flock to the flavor-of-the-month point-and-shoot, yet poopoo all the EOS cameras because of their autofocus and metering.
Yes it's always surprised me, although they do look awful. But they perform really well. Loads of cheap ones about, often for less than the battery it takes.
All it takes is one famous reviewer to give a glowing review and the price shoots up. A while back Kai gave a glowing review about the Canon 5D Mark II, and the price on eBay shot up $150 for a while. Fortunately, I had purchased one (as a gift for my sister) before the article was posted. So SHHH!!!! everybody. We don't want these nice cameras to fall into a feeding frenzy or even worse, get the interest of collectors and end up in a glass case somewhere collecting dust (which ought to be a crime against humanity, though I confess I also think that they are beautiful)
There's a lot of cameras even canon ones like the A-1 that you can pick up for a hundred bucks with a good lens and has all the manual goodness of the overpriced model AE-1.
in early 2021 I got EOS 300. I didn't realize until much later just how lucky I was to get it in good condition with its kit lens and working batteries for 22$. It was my first film camera, first interchangeable-lens camera and second real camera ever. Much much later I got my hands on an old Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 with IS, that is *such* an amazing experience on film!
This is my camera! Bought it in 2020 under 100 and I love it. It's my main film camera to use and it always get the job done. Glad that its getting the recognition that it deserves!
For $200 or so on eBay, you can get an Canon EOS 1-N HS. I have three of them, and absolutely adore them. I am one of those despicable traitors who shoots digital too, but as a by-product, I can also use all the same lenses on my Canon 5D Mark II, my 5D Mark II infrared converted, and my 5Ds. The biggest difference is that the 1-N HS is rugged. It's like the difference between a Nikon F100 and a Nikon F5 (Yes, I have those too. I'm fickle).
I share your same "affliction." I have a couple Canon A1's, a couple Canon EOS 1N's, a couple Nikon F4's, and a couple Nikon F5's. I love these old 35mm tanks. And you can find them mint-condition for a very low price. One of my Canon A1's is unused in its original box, still wrapped in cellophane!
I have a pair of 1-Ns and I once slipped and fell and the body and a cheaper sigma lens broke my fall. That lens was destroyed, but the EOS body is now scared and since it also has a skull and bones strap it looks kinda more badass. XD
@@theothertonydutch All of mine look like I have been pounding nails with them, and one of them no longer works. so I have my goto, my backup, and a parts camera. Fortunately, they are not hard to get today. The 1-V, on the other hand, is many times more expensive due to collectors. I don't think I will ever get one of those because the price difference is not worth it. Same for the Nikon F6, which has very little advantage over my F4 and F5. It's a lot more rugged than the F100, of course, but the F100 is very lightweight and just as capable.
I do think a bit of the perks of shooting film cameras is the disarming charm of antiquated technology. Like it's cool that the security guard kind of gave you the nod, but I've had plenty of situations where I know I'd have gotten hassled had I not been shooting something quirky like a TLR, so like the plastic fantastic 90s cams are amazing...but they just lack in that "good vibes" department of an old film camera.
I love my EOS1v, been using it for all my work pretty much. Last week i got a really cheap Canon Elan7 for my dad, so he could use all his canon lenses on it, and it's absolutely aweasome! Cost me about 70 bucks, and it has all the bells and whistles you could expect from a modern-ish film camera (aside from being 90% plastic). Preach Caleb, don't sleep on the EOS line, guys!
i have 3 eos 500 and one eos 300. paired with a 40mm pancake canon ef lens. the image is so great, and if the body fails it has cost me less than a roll of film... i think it's a better system than a contax because you won't loose any money if the camera breaks. also the cheap price allows you to have a body for every ISO, or one for B&W and one for color...
Dope AF is right -- finally respect being put on those early EOS models! I have an EOS 620 and shot a roll of Ilford XP2 this weekend at The Darkroom & Beers & Cameras photowalk this weekend in San Diego! Excited to develop & scan the roll; might have even managed to get a sneaky candid of you somewhere in there hahaha
The EOS line has the fastest autofocus of any of the big brands. My EOS-1n is my favorite camera, more than my Leicas, more than my Nikons, more than my Fujis. It is such a joy to use.
Decided to for my first "Modern" Analog camera to get a Canon Elan, mainly because it was 20$ and took EF lenses I already had, controls are much more intuitive than the 650, similar to the EOS 1N and I've had quite a bit of fun shooting with it. Hilarious and awesome to me to put a lens from 2018 on a body from 1991 and it to just work just as it would on my new mirrorless bodies
These aren't bad, but I have found that Canon cameras of this vintage tend to get sticky shutters (which is cleanable). But on the 650, 630, 620 that dial is super fragile. At the school I teach at, I have been trying to switch to Nikon 6006s, 8008s, N90s because they are a bit more robust. I had an Eos 1 and 1n back in the day, they were great. Also, that 40mm which has been mentioned is great. It is so small, quiet, and sharp.
This camera had another version with very cool feature - eye tracking. It have multiple points of exposure calculation and focusing and you may select the right point just looking at it. It's amazing, that feature was implemented in middle 80s. Fantastic camera, and it so convenient so I would like just to add digital back with no display at all, just 5 mp sensor and multimedia card slot, and I would be happy.
Bought 2 Canon 500N in a job lot for £15. It's now my most used camera and it cost less than a roll of film. Perfect size with great features, and at that price it's practically a disposable, I never have to worry about it being stolen or broken
I bought an eos650 a couple years back and it was the best investment I made. All my EF glass still remains relevant and having AF is a total bonus. I was even able to do a whole wildlife photography project with only analog methods. The meter is a bit iffy as you have pointed out, but once you get used to it, its definitely alright. One thing to note is that these older EOS models may have a battery drain problem, especially the 630. Mine didnt have one at first, but it started to have issues after a year. From what I read online, its due to the electronics for the light in the LCD. But taking out your battery when it is not in use is an easy fix!
I take every opportunity I get to shout from the rooftops about eos film cameras! Sure the 650 can be a little kooky but you can get plenty of more developed models super cheap and you have to remember the 650 is the first of its line! Also got to shout out the magical ef 40mm f/2.8, its my go to now where the 50 1.8 stm was beforw
that stupid rewind button on the back cover on the EOS 1 (elan 7) has burned 2 rolls of cine800t and several kodak golds, ive taped over it - kinda helped canon EF lenses are slept on but the budget zooms (50-250 and 75-300) chromatic aberrate like crazy the canon ultrasonic 28-105 is my main and is very versatile - good for BW infrared (f8, didnt try f11, no hotspots) im looking for proper f2.8, f2, or f1.8 EF lenses- should i go canon red-rings or are tamron/sigma options as good? (my first camera was a rebel t6 - it is my only digital camera)
I remember drooling over the EOS 620/650 brochure as they oozed late-80's tech & styling at the camera store but these (as well as the roughly comparable Pentax SF1, etc.) seemed very expensive at the time and ended up with a much lower-tech Pentax P3n. I still have and love it.
This is what I love about film gear. The camera has next to nothing with the image quality. A super cheap body will take the same lenses and film as the pro models. In the Canon ecosystem, you can slap some "cheap" L lenses on any old EOS film body. Load it up with whatever film you want and you are set. I built up a nice 35mm film kit. I found a near mint 1N for about $100, with battery grip. Then I added a 50 1.2, a 35 2.0, and the 135 2.0. It gives me amazing results. The cool thing with the 50 and 35 are that they came out well into the digital era and are incredibly sharp. They were designed for digital sensors that require way more resolving power than film requires.
ISO 100 film in good light is the equivalent of about 30 megapixels. ADOX cmx II is a microfilm base that has absurd resolution potential, so the high megapixels of digital cameras are often overestimated. Why does a 35mm film image look just as detailed as an image from a 24MP digital camera? Because it is. But I agree completely that some modern glass is absurdly sharp and well designed.
I also have the e o s system, but still love my AE-1 program and. It's fd prime lenses. Kodak pro image is a great film stock for cheap money. In high contrast situations i usually over expose by one stop.
I have a Canon EOS 650, 630 and 3000N. I gave the 630 to my daughter. All perform really well - super reliable. Huge range of available EF lenses. The 650 cost me $40 AUD and the 3000N was $15 AUD at a charity shop.
This is great Caleb, thank you. Not everything needs to be top tier. Watching these I'm getting closer and closer to dipping my toes back into film. Also, I love dead malls!
I started college in 87 and my buddy had one of those, it seemed pretty space age back then! I'm a lifetime Nikon man, but strangely I shot a magazine portrait of the kid who played Neville that you mentioned years ago, using a borrowed canon 5D for some reason I don't remember. Amazing that one of yours is still working after nearly 40 years
My Canon 650 just arrived in the mail and is in excellent condition. Getting ready to head to the East Coast and adding the 650 to my arsenal of cameras.
Bought my EOS 630 with 2 lenses back in early 90s at B&H on a trip to NYC...a few more Canons, digital n film and a few sweet EF lensss later...got me back into film n my love/hate GAS fun!! Great video...my 630 still going strong!
When I used to go to malls the security guards would always come hassle me for shooting inside the mall. They didn't bother you? Maybe because nobody goes to malls anymore?
With an adapter, you can Ef lenses or RF mount being able to use lenses on mirrorles, DSLR, and film is an insane savings on money while being versatile.
I was gifted a EOS 630 kit by a friends dad. Put my modern ef lens on it and it takes great photos. It's got power issues these days but as long as I don't hit a couple of buttons it won't drain the batt instantly. Recommended.
Canon has always been my favorite brand of cameras, not necessarily because they’re superior, but mainly I’ve stuck with the brand the most out of sentimental value
I really dig these old EOS cameras. They have all necessary functions, yet are dirt cheap, and they can also use modern EF lenses, many of which can be had dirt cheap now. For example i got EOS 300 for like 40 € and 24-70 2.8 mk1 for 250€. What other brands allows you to get that sort of setup under 300€? And if you want proper pro level camera, well EOS3 and EOS1 are not very expensive.
You inspired me to look for one of these, and I bought one for $12, including delivery. Pleasantly surprised that it even seems to work with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art lens. Haven’t tried it with film yet but very promising!
Fascinated by the results from this combination (650 + Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art). Learned alot: - This feels SO much like using my digital Canon that after a while I forgot that I was shooting film - Portra 160 has crazy resolution - When the quality of the negatives is this high, I have to be really cautious when I digitize them: every fleck of dust shows and the color fringing of my lens becomes much more obvious (trying to resist buying a proper macro lens instead of extension tubes) So really cool experience, thanks for getting me to try this! This is perfect for portraits, I'd say. (And if I get tired of the camera I'll sell it for $1000 once the Caleb effect kicks in and it becomes the most popular camera ever)
This is one of my favorites videos that you’ve done! I got an EOS A2 for like $40 on eBay and it’s awesome. The EOS cameras are ugly but they work well.
Eos rebel g and the 50mm lens is one of my favorite combos. Cheap and it just works. I used it as part of my loadout for some concerts I shot earlier this year and got some of my favorite photos out of it.
I acquired an ELAN II around April and ultimately it's what led me to selling my AE-1 and Fuji X-T2. I already had a 5D MKIII and when I got this camera I decided I would invest in EF glass and make the move to mirrorless with the RP. Now I can use the same EF glass through 3 generations of cameras and produce great results with each. My 24-105 gets all the use and I'm looking to get the 50 1.2 soon
Have my mums old EOS 650 and love it super easy camera and the photos I've taken with it are some of my favourites. Pretty much all the cameras I have were given/ lent to me by family. Next cameras to try are the Canon A-1 my uncle lent me and my aunts Konica Autoreflex TC.
I love my EOS 650. Got it off eBay for like 70 bucks with a genuine speedlite THAT WORKS from the 80's, a genuine EOS case, and an EOS bag. All original Canon stuff, for like 70 bucks. I was so surprised to see everything working properly.
With the recently released EF lenses, you can get the highest possible quality out of old film cameras. The new stabilized lenses do a great job on old bodies.
I had fun w/ the F-1n New & 1n but just got a 500n Qd. It feels toyish like but packs a lot of tech of the 1n & some 1v in a compact body. E-TTL & multi af points & IS support. Lenses was affordable 10 yrs ago so i brought my fave 70-200/2.8L 28-70/28L & 20-35/2.7L & new fave 50/1.4 USM. Some of there cost more then my Nikon equal so I bring lot of my Nikon glass over w/ FotoDiox Pro adapter w/ focus chip. Works smooth
Thank you! I don’t shoot film, yet! I’ve been watching your channel for a while, and before I even thought about trying film your videos have always inspired me to shoot more. I also like a lot of the same subjects you shoot!
Dang, maybe I should have waited for this to come out and stuck with the Canon family instead of buying a K1000 at the darkroomlab/beers&cameras meetup after winning that film... Hmm, guess I'll just have to watch the other film videos you have up :D
Nice video. I'm still using my EOS 630 that I bought new in '89. I keep thinking I should look at getting a 1n or the EOS 3, but I keep using the 630 and enjoying the results. I'll spend the money I save on film and processing! Thanks for doing this video, it reminds me that these are good cameras. I mostly use the canon 50mm 1.4 and the 24-105 f4, they do the trick.
If you have any EF lenses, these EOS film cameras are a no-brainer. Got myself a 30V with eye-control AF last year and it's been great. I mean, who could say no to 1/4s handheld because you have IS?
The Canon EOS series are my Favorite auto slrs. I used to help promote a monthly camera show by me. I did the online advertising . It was a camera flea market so to speak. And one of the vendors had a $5 table. Anything on that table was $5. And then one show he had a table that everything on that table was $2.50. So I have EOS 650 and either the 620 or 630 plus Nikon N 90 and Nikon N90s bodies. I put lenses and batteries on them and they work. The EOS A2 is still my favorite. I am on my 4th one. Always carry batteries on you when going to a camera show or thrift stores to test them to make sure it works before you buy it. The photos came out exposed ok. It reminded me kind of like mall in Dawn of the Dead.
HA! No way. The Puente Hills Mall. I remember going there about 2 years ago. Other malls had already re-opened and were booming again, but this place was unbelievably dead.
620 owner here, bought at a pawn shop in '95 for a song because they couldn't get fit any of their other Canon (FD) lenses on the camera. Everything old is new again and I will probably dust it off and put a new battery in and start shooting on it, coming full circle with my first AF camera. I think the primary differences are that the 620 has a higher max shuter of 1/2000 and a higher flash sync of up to 1/250. Also lacks the DOF mode.
You're not wrong, I have an EOS XSN (super cheapo) with a 40mm pancake lens and it's such a great, light shooter. Has pretty much any feature I'd need on a day to day (and if something happens to the body, I can replace it for nearly nothing).
Used Photo Pro also has a brick and mortar storefront! It’s in Indianapolis, and is the staff is fantastic. They have bins of lenses for like $10 and bodies I think for $20 - and you can pick out a body+lens kit for $25! Super helpful for the budget conscious film photographer or someone who wants to give it a try without spending more than that. I’m super happy to see them mentioned, Indy is a great city and I wish people didn’t look over our state and its capitol so much. Southern Indiana is gorgeous and has a lot of interesting history.
Funny enough I’m visiting the store the same time this video is posted. Funny how things turn out like that sometimes. It’s a fantastic store with awesome people.
I've got a pair of EOS 600, for £15 each, one for colour and one for shooting black and white film. They are nice film cameras, and I'd love to shoot more film, but it so expensive… There is an issue with one of them where if you leave it with the battery in, it will drain it quickly. This appears to be a common problem with these EOS 600 cameras as they age. Make sure you take the battery out when not in use. Oh and I managed to get rechargeables online in this old format battery, so it's no longer so much of a problem.
Used to live near the Puente Hills Mall hahah, its sad that it's been dead for a few years but it always did give great memories. Love the Round1 Arcade there, and the fun fact of the parking lot being used for Back to the Future!
Canon eos are fantastic and whether it was to conserve manufacturing resources or just great foresight, the systems interchangeability is top notch. Almost 10 years ago, i bought a canon 1000f second hand for less then 20 euros. It was missing the eyepiece, but it uses the same eyepiece as my canon 6d! The lens hood for my 28-105mm and 28mm 1.8? The same! The lens hood for my 85mm 1.8 and 135mm softfocus lens? Also the same!
It is all about the lenses. There are adapters for the EF mount and many systems can be attached. There is also auto focus confirmation with those adapters included. So - the body may be an ugly plastic box, but if Helios lenses attached using the adapter - oh man, you can still shoot in the AV mode and rock it 🔥
Hot take: I think that for years folks would say a good starter camera is the AE-1, Electro, etc. because they made so many of them, so there was a surplus available for cheap. That repeated enough times, created the opposite issue, and now they're over priced. The late stage film cameras didn't get the same hype, and now they're like $20. I have this exact camera in my bids on a Goodwill site, so if it suddenly prices out for me following this video release, I know who to blame. (Me, for making this comment).
One reason those AE-1s were so cheap for a long time is because the success of the EF mount and the EOS system is that its incompatibility with with older Canon Glass left little demand for the older FD mount cameras and lenses. Of course, a zillion recommendations for a "cheap camera" will tend to undo that lack of demand.
I have a Rebel 2000 that I got new in the year 2000. Somehow that thing keeps on trucking despite being treated like crap for most of its existence. The pressure plate and areas where the film runs through are visibly worn. It outlasted my Nikon F3 (bought in 03, made late 90s mint condition in the box, but crapped out around 2009).
There was one of the used camera stores did a video comparing a film Leica M with a Leica lens and one of these cheap and killer canons with a 50 1.8. Of course the price difference was over 1,000 maybe even around 2,000. But the better photos came from the Canon.. Fun video and comparison to see.
Got my EOS 650 for around 80 bucks as an addition to my Canon AE-1 fully manual camera because I thought a more modern camera with at least autofocus, combine that with the EF mount lenses would make a great addition to my collection. But I found out that I personally much more prefer the simpilicity of my AE-1 with all its haptics over the EOS 650 hence i almost never use it.
Vast majority of autofocus film cameras are unbelievably cheap for their capabilities, like you can get a Minolta Alpha 7/9 or a Nikon F5 for the price of a Canon AE-1, as well as plenty of other brands with high quality even late AF pro cameras for the price of more popular manual SLRs. I got a Nikon F-601 for 5 bucks that was completely new in box, and other consumer/entry level AF SLRs are very cheap.
@@BadFlashes absolutely. Especially considering the price of batteries for those cams. I basically bought the batteries and got the cams for free. Compared to my loved FTB ql they feel like toys, but they don't randomly explode every few films... That's kinda nice.
Do you have an electric Hasselblad now? 😂 But seriously people still sleep on the Minoltas, Nikons and Canons from the nineties to early 2000's. Not so the EOS 1V or Nikon F5/F6. But there are so many Dynax,'s, F65's, or stuff like the Canon 650. I always recommend these now to friends wanting to try film out for cheap. Well besides letting them borrow on of mine for a bit.
@@BadFlashes I would too, but I just got a Bronica EC-TL with a sweet Zenzanon 80mm 2.4 lens 😇 So at least 0.4 F-stop better than the best Hasselblad offering in 80mm.
Right? I have two 650's bought them both with nifty fifties for a combined $70. I also recently bought a A2 for for around $30. Great cameras and I am happy people don't like them, means they will continue to be inexpensive.
@@BadFlashes that would be awesome! Actually, just looking though my photos(I just recently got two rolls of proimage back) it was just a matter of under-exposure at dusk and it was overcast. The daylight pictures looked great.
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(2:22) Well... no, EOS 650 was NOT the first Canon's autofocusing camera, course there was Canon T80, based on a FD mount, introduced in 1986. Agreed, short lived, and I believe it was more of a test bed. But even before that, Canon made the FD35-70mm f/4 AF, which could autofocus independently of the camera, what was in 1981. Just saying...
After re-watching what I said …. I thought I said auto focus for EF mount … I was wrong …. Maybe I should’ve said reliable auto focus. Lol 😝
@@BadFlashes true 🤣
Can't sleep on the EOS line of cameras. I always found it odd how people will flock to the flavor-of-the-month point-and-shoot, yet poopoo all the EOS cameras because of their autofocus and metering.
Hope they never get hyped. My favorite SLR bodies with amazing lens range that cost next to nothing in film world.
That’s such a good point!!!!
Yes it's always surprised me, although they do look awful. But they perform really well. Loads of cheap ones about, often for less than the battery it takes.
All it takes is one famous reviewer to give a glowing review and the price shoots up. A while back Kai gave a glowing review about the Canon 5D Mark II, and the price on eBay shot up $150 for a while. Fortunately, I had purchased one (as a gift for my sister) before the article was posted.
So SHHH!!!! everybody. We don't want these nice cameras to fall into a feeding frenzy or even worse, get the interest of collectors and end up in a glass case somewhere collecting dust (which ought to be a crime against humanity, though I confess I also think that they are beautiful)
There's a lot of cameras even canon ones like the A-1 that you can pick up for a hundred bucks with a good lens and has all the manual goodness of the overpriced model AE-1.
in early 2021 I got EOS 300. I didn't realize until much later just how lucky I was to get it in good condition with its kit lens and working batteries for 22$. It was my first film camera, first interchangeable-lens camera and second real camera ever.
Much much later I got my hands on an old Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 with IS, that is *such* an amazing experience on film!
Wow lucky
So we aren't going to talk about the shoe thief... @6:11
Hahahahahahaha
That is such a funny moment
@@BadFlashes I couldn't believe that when I saw it. What was the outcome? We need answers to shoe gate.
Right!?!? I'm perplexed by this moment wtf is happening 😂😂😳😳
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This is my camera! Bought it in 2020 under 100 and I love it. It's my main film camera to use and it always get the job done. Glad that its getting the recognition that it deserves!
Oh yeah!!!! Repping the old EOS!
The 650 was my back up body to go with my EOS1. They were both bought from new in the 80s, and they are still with me to this very day.
Oh nice.
For $200 or so on eBay, you can get an Canon EOS 1-N HS. I have three of them, and absolutely adore them. I am one of those despicable traitors who shoots digital too, but as a by-product, I can also use all the same lenses on my Canon 5D Mark II, my 5D Mark II infrared converted, and my 5Ds.
The biggest difference is that the 1-N HS is rugged. It's like the difference between a Nikon F100 and a Nikon F5 (Yes, I have those too. I'm fickle).
That is crazy! Yeah, definitely in the 5D ecosystem. That’s amazing.!!!!!! and it makes things so easy.
I share your same "affliction." I have a couple Canon A1's, a couple Canon EOS 1N's, a couple Nikon F4's, and a couple Nikon F5's. I love these old 35mm tanks. And you can find them mint-condition for a very low price. One of my Canon A1's is unused in its original box, still wrapped in cellophane!
The 1N-RS 🖤🖤🖤
I have a pair of 1-Ns and I once slipped and fell and the body and a cheaper sigma lens broke my fall. That lens was destroyed, but the EOS body is now scared and since it also has a skull and bones strap it looks kinda more badass. XD
@@theothertonydutch All of mine look like I have been pounding nails with them, and one of them no longer works. so I have my goto, my backup, and a parts camera. Fortunately, they are not hard to get today. The 1-V, on the other hand, is many times more expensive due to collectors. I don't think I will ever get one of those because the price difference is not worth it. Same for the Nikon F6, which has very little advantage over my F4 and F5. It's a lot more rugged than the F100, of course, but the F100 is very lightweight and just as capable.
I do think a bit of the perks of shooting film cameras is the disarming charm of antiquated technology. Like it's cool that the security guard kind of gave you the nod, but I've had plenty of situations where I know I'd have gotten hassled had I not been shooting something quirky like a TLR, so like the plastic fantastic 90s cams are amazing...but they just lack in that "good vibes" department of an old film camera.
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I love my EOS1v, been using it for all my work pretty much. Last week i got a really cheap Canon Elan7 for my dad, so he could use all his canon lenses on it, and it's absolutely aweasome! Cost me about 70 bucks, and it has all the bells and whistles you could expect from a modern-ish film camera (aside from being 90% plastic). Preach Caleb, don't sleep on the EOS line, guys!
Preach
finally this camera gets more recognition. Best film camera with great lineup of lenses. affordable and extremely reliable
Right!!!!!
i have 3 eos 500 and one eos 300. paired with a 40mm pancake canon ef lens. the image is so great, and if the body fails it has cost me less than a roll of film... i think it's a better system than a contax because you won't loose any money if the camera breaks. also the cheap price allows you to have a body for every ISO, or one for B&W and one for color...
Damn, you are in it for real! That’s hard-core
@@BadFlashes 😅
Dope AF is right -- finally respect being put on those early EOS models! I have an EOS 620 and shot a roll of Ilford XP2 this weekend at The Darkroom & Beers & Cameras photowalk this weekend in San Diego! Excited to develop & scan the roll; might have even managed to get a sneaky candid of you somewhere in there hahaha
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The EOS line has the fastest autofocus of any of the big brands. My EOS-1n is my favorite camera, more than my Leicas, more than my Nikons, more than my Fujis. It is such a joy to use.
Such a joy 🤩
I got the 620 a few years back, great camera
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I picked up a mint Nikon F100 with a 35 f/2 lens on eBay for $100. There are definitely deals to be had!
Right!!!
Decided to for my first "Modern" Analog camera to get a Canon Elan, mainly because it was 20$ and took EF lenses I already had, controls are much more intuitive than the 650, similar to the EOS 1N and I've had quite a bit of fun shooting with it. Hilarious and awesome to me to put a lens from 2018 on a body from 1991 and it to just work just as it would on my new mirrorless bodies
Right! Isn’t that like the best part of the entire thing?
These aren't bad, but I have found that Canon cameras of this vintage tend to get sticky shutters (which is cleanable). But on the 650, 630, 620 that dial is super fragile. At the school I teach at, I have been trying to switch to Nikon 6006s, 8008s, N90s because they are a bit more robust. I had an Eos 1 and 1n back in the day, they were great. Also, that 40mm which has been mentioned is great. It is so small, quiet, and sharp.
That’s what I’ve heard. That 40 is da bomb 💣
This camera had another version with very cool feature - eye tracking. It have multiple points of exposure calculation and focusing and you may select the right point just looking at it. It's amazing, that feature was implemented in middle 80s. Fantastic camera, and it so convenient so I would like just to add digital back with no display at all, just 5 mp sensor and multimedia card slot, and I would be happy.
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Bought 2 Canon 500N in a job lot for £15. It's now my most used camera and it cost less than a roll of film. Perfect size with great features, and at that price it's practically a disposable, I never have to worry about it being stolen or broken
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I bought an eos650 a couple years back and it was the best investment I made. All my EF glass still remains relevant and having AF is a total bonus. I was even able to do a whole wildlife photography project with only analog methods. The meter is a bit iffy as you have pointed out, but once you get used to it, its definitely alright. One thing to note is that these older EOS models may have a battery drain problem, especially the 630. Mine didnt have one at first, but it started to have issues after a year. From what I read online, its due to the electronics for the light in the LCD. But taking out your battery when it is not in use is an easy fix!
Thanks for the insight
Elan ii + 40mm pancake has been my most-used setup since I got into film.
Nice!!! That’s solid
I take every opportunity I get to shout from the rooftops about eos film cameras! Sure the 650 can be a little kooky but you can get plenty of more developed models super cheap and you have to remember the 650 is the first of its line! Also got to shout out the magical ef 40mm f/2.8, its my go to now where the 50 1.8 stm was beforw
Shout it yo!!!!!
that stupid rewind button on the back cover on the EOS 1 (elan 7) has burned 2 rolls of cine800t and several kodak golds, ive taped over it - kinda helped
canon EF lenses are slept on but the budget zooms (50-250 and 75-300) chromatic aberrate like crazy
the canon ultrasonic 28-105 is my main and is very versatile - good for BW infrared (f8, didnt try f11, no hotspots)
im looking for proper f2.8, f2, or f1.8 EF lenses- should i go canon red-rings or are tamron/sigma options as good?
(my first camera was a rebel t6 - it is my only digital camera)
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I remember drooling over the EOS 620/650 brochure as they oozed late-80's tech & styling at the camera store but these (as well as the roughly comparable Pentax SF1, etc.) seemed very expensive at the time and ended up with a much lower-tech Pentax P3n. I still have and love it.
You should get one, they are cheap enough now! Hahahaha catch em alllllllllll 😮💨😝
The best sleeper camera I know of is the Nikon N90s (get the vertical grip too). They are so cheap to get and have all the bells and whistles
They are cheap
This is what I love about film gear. The camera has next to nothing with the image quality. A super cheap body will take the same lenses and film as the pro models. In the Canon ecosystem, you can slap some "cheap" L lenses on any old EOS film body. Load it up with whatever film you want and you are set.
I built up a nice 35mm film kit. I found a near mint 1N for about $100, with battery grip. Then I added a 50 1.2, a 35 2.0, and the 135 2.0. It gives me amazing results. The cool thing with the 50 and 35 are that they came out well into the digital era and are incredibly sharp. They were designed for digital sensors that require way more resolving power than film requires.
Oh my god… Right. So on point
ISO 100 film in good light is the equivalent of about 30 megapixels. ADOX cmx II is a microfilm base that has absurd resolution potential, so the high megapixels of digital cameras are often overestimated. Why does a 35mm film image look just as detailed as an image from a 24MP digital camera? Because it is. But I agree completely that some modern glass is absurdly sharp and well designed.
I woudlnt call the 50 sharp
I mean it looked sharp to me. That eye is crisp
@@BadFlashes fair
I also have the e o s system, but still love my AE-1 program and. It's fd prime lenses. Kodak pro image is a great film stock for cheap money. In high contrast situations i usually over expose by one stop.
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I have a Canon EOS 650, 630 and 3000N. I gave the 630 to my daughter. All perform really well - super reliable. Huge range of available EF lenses. The 650 cost me $40 AUD and the 3000N was $15 AUD at a charity shop.
Oh, that’s amazing and also those prices are great
This is great Caleb, thank you. Not everything needs to be top tier. Watching these I'm getting closer and closer to dipping my toes back into film. Also, I love dead malls!
Do it!!!!!!!!!! If I dip, you dip, we dip
I started college in 87 and my buddy had one of those, it seemed pretty space age back then! I'm a lifetime Nikon man, but strangely I shot a magazine portrait of the kid who played Neville that you mentioned years ago, using a borrowed canon 5D for some reason I don't remember. Amazing that one of yours is still working after nearly 40 years
It’s so crazy right now
My Canon 650 just arrived in the mail and is in excellent condition. Getting ready to head to the East Coast and adding the 650 to my arsenal of cameras.
Nice! Hope you have fun 🤩
Bought my EOS 630 with 2 lenses back in early 90s at B&H on a trip to NYC...a few more Canons, digital n film and a few sweet EF lensss later...got me back into film n my love/hate GAS fun!! Great video...my 630 still going strong!
Oh I love that :)
When I used to go to malls the security guards would always come hassle me for shooting inside the mall. They didn't bother you? Maybe because nobody goes to malls anymore?
Hahaha
With an adapter, you can Ef lenses or RF mount being able to use lenses on mirrorles, DSLR, and film is an insane savings on money while being versatile.
So so so much savings
Used Photo Pro (aka Roberts) is my local shop and most of my gear is from them. They’re the best!
The best. So agreeeee
Love and own the EOS 5 * A2e such a beast and very slept on.
Facts
Double facts
I was gifted a EOS 630 kit by a friends dad. Put my modern ef lens on it and it takes great photos. It's got power issues these days but as long as I don't hit a couple of buttons it won't drain the batt instantly. Recommended.
Gifts are fun
The a2e is literally my professional film go to. Guaranteed to shoot really good photos, and if they want a vintage look, switch to the ae1 📷 😊
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Love my canon EOS Rebel Gii!!
Hells yeah … that’s what’s sup
Nice video. I'm actually impressed that you found a mall that is open.
Meeee too!
Canon has always been my favorite brand of cameras, not necessarily because they’re superior, but mainly I’ve stuck with the brand the most out of sentimental value
It totally happens
I really dig these old EOS cameras. They have all necessary functions, yet are dirt cheap, and they can also use modern EF lenses, many of which can be had dirt cheap now. For example i got EOS 300 for like 40 € and 24-70 2.8 mk1 for 250€. What other brands allows you to get that sort of setup under 300€? And if you want proper pro level camera, well EOS3 and EOS1 are not very expensive.
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The erognomics on the Canon cameras has always been fire. Nikon chunky bois will never feel as good in the hands.
Canons are tight
Don't sleep on these, or similar ones like Nikon N80. Lots of great cameras going cheap out there.
So so cheap
You inspired me to look for one of these, and I bought one for $12, including delivery. Pleasantly surprised that it even seems to work with my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art lens. Haven’t tried it with film yet but very promising!
Fascinated by the results from this combination (650 + Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art). Learned alot:
- This feels SO much like using my digital Canon that after a while I forgot that I was shooting film
- Portra 160 has crazy resolution
- When the quality of the negatives is this high, I have to be really cautious when I digitize them: every fleck of dust shows and the color fringing of my lens becomes much more obvious (trying to resist buying a proper macro lens instead of extension tubes)
So really cool experience, thanks for getting me to try this! This is perfect for portraits, I'd say.
(And if I get tired of the camera I'll sell it for $1000 once the Caleb effect kicks in and it becomes the most popular camera ever)
This is one of my favorites videos that you’ve done! I got an EOS A2 for like $40 on eBay and it’s awesome. The EOS cameras are ugly but they work well.
Oh yay. So glad 😌
EOS line of film cameras are superb. I have my father's old EOS 100 and it performs great to this day. Lens selection and variety is really good also.
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Eos rebel g and the 50mm lens is one of my favorite combos. Cheap and it just works. I used it as part of my loadout for some concerts I shot earlier this year and got some of my favorite photos out of it.
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I acquired an ELAN II around April and ultimately it's what led me to selling my AE-1 and Fuji X-T2. I already had a 5D MKIII and when I got this camera I decided I would invest in EF glass and make the move to mirrorless with the RP. Now I can use the same EF glass through 3 generations of cameras and produce great results with each. My 24-105 gets all the use and I'm looking to get the 50 1.2 soon
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Have my mums old EOS 650 and love it super easy camera and the photos I've taken with it are some of my favourites. Pretty much all the cameras I have were given/ lent to me by family. Next cameras to try are the Canon A-1 my uncle lent me and my aunts Konica Autoreflex TC.
That’s one of a kind!!! So awesome
These were peak camera tech at the time. I have a 7s and I've literally never had it in anything but P mode and the auto-exposure hasn't failed once.
Nice! Love to hear that
Canon EOS 300 is one of my favourite cameras. Paired with the 40mm EF lens, it is the perfect travel camera.
I can totally see that
I love my EOS 650. Got it off eBay for like 70 bucks with a genuine speedlite THAT WORKS from the 80's, a genuine EOS case, and an EOS bag. All original Canon stuff, for like 70 bucks. I was so surprised to see everything working properly.
Wow all the OG stuff. That’s great
With the recently released EF lenses, you can get the highest possible quality out of old film cameras. The new stabilized lenses do a great job on old bodies.
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IS lenses were a thing even in the film era. 70-200 F2.8L IS was the goat of their lens ecosystem in the late 90s and early 00's
@@gobgobcachoo I own the 70-200 F4 version. It makes fun with film as well.
I had fun w/ the F-1n New & 1n but just got a 500n Qd. It feels toyish like but packs a lot of tech of the 1n & some 1v in a compact body. E-TTL & multi af points & IS support.
Lenses was affordable 10 yrs ago so i brought my fave 70-200/2.8L 28-70/28L & 20-35/2.7L & new fave 50/1.4 USM. Some of there cost more then my Nikon equal so I bring lot of my Nikon glass over w/ FotoDiox Pro adapter w/ focus chip. Works smooth
Love smooth !!!!! :)
Very informative video, bought one today!
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you! I don’t shoot film, yet! I’ve been watching your channel for a while, and before I even thought about trying film your videos have always inspired me to shoot more. I also like a lot of the same subjects you shoot!
Dang, maybe I should have waited for this to come out and stuck with the Canon family instead of buying a K1000 at the darkroomlab/beers&cameras meetup after winning that film... Hmm, guess I'll just have to watch the other film videos you have up :D
WAMP wamp lol
You still got a good one don’t worry there’s always time to get more 🤪
Nice video. I'm still using my EOS 630 that I bought new in '89. I keep thinking I should look at getting a 1n or the EOS 3, but I keep using the 630 and enjoying the results. I'll spend the money I save on film and processing! Thanks for doing this video, it reminds me that these are good cameras. I mostly use the canon 50mm 1.4 and the 24-105 f4, they do the trick.
Oh totally, I mean that that’s the whole point of the video. I’m glad you enjoyed it. :)
@@BadFlashes keep up the good work. I’m a retired guy working now on getting better at shooting film. Really enjoying your content.
Another fun video with lots of good information. Thank you !
Oh awesome I’m so glad
I have an EOS 55 and a 1V. Don’t get to use them much but they’re fantastic cameras.
They really are. And I feel ya
If you have any EF lenses, these EOS film cameras are a no-brainer. Got myself a 30V with eye-control AF last year and it's been great. I mean, who could say no to 1/4s handheld because you have IS?
Right
The Canon EOS series are my Favorite auto slrs. I used to help promote a monthly camera show by me. I did the online advertising . It was a camera flea market so to speak. And one of the vendors had a $5 table. Anything on that table was $5. And then one show he had a table that everything on that table was $2.50. So I have EOS 650 and either the 620 or 630 plus Nikon N 90 and Nikon N90s bodies. I put lenses and batteries on them and they work. The EOS A2 is still my favorite. I am on my 4th one. Always carry batteries on you when going to a camera show or thrift stores to test them to make sure it works before you buy it. The photos came out exposed ok. It reminded me kind of like mall in Dawn of the Dead.
Yassss to so much of this
HA! No way. The Puente Hills Mall. I remember going there about 2 years ago. Other malls had already re-opened and were booming again, but this place was unbelievably dead.
Oh I know.
The incident with the Libyans must have scared everyone off.
620 owner here, bought at a pawn shop in '95 for a song because they couldn't get fit any of their other Canon (FD) lenses on the camera. Everything old is new again and I will probably dust it off and put a new battery in and start shooting on it, coming full circle with my first AF camera. I think the primary differences are that the 620 has a higher max shuter of 1/2000 and a higher flash sync of up to 1/250. Also lacks the DOF mode.
Do it. 🚀
You're not wrong, I have an EOS XSN (super cheapo) with a 40mm pancake lens and it's such a great, light shooter. Has pretty much any feature I'd need on a day to day (and if something happens to the body, I can replace it for nearly nothing).
Yeah! That’s exactly it! 🤩
Used Photo Pro also has a brick and mortar storefront! It’s in Indianapolis, and is the staff is fantastic. They have bins of lenses for like $10 and bodies I think for $20 - and you can pick out a body+lens kit for $25! Super helpful for the budget conscious film photographer or someone who wants to give it a try without spending more than that. I’m super happy to see them mentioned, Indy is a great city and I wish people didn’t look over our state and its capitol so much. Southern Indiana is gorgeous and has a lot of interesting history.
Funny enough I’m visiting the store the same time this video is posted. Funny how things turn out like that sometimes. It’s a fantastic store with awesome people.
I've got a pair of EOS 600, for £15 each, one for colour and one for shooting black and white film. They are nice film cameras, and I'd love to shoot more film, but it so expensive… There is an issue with one of them where if you leave it with the battery in, it will drain it quickly. This appears to be a common problem with these EOS 600 cameras as they age. Make sure you take the battery out when not in use. Oh and I managed to get rechargeables online in this old format battery, so it's no longer so much of a problem.
Oh nice. Duel welding 🥳
I approve
Great minds think alike. I was shooting in this mall four weeks ago. Some awesome photo opportunities.
Nice!!!!
I bought a Rebel 2000 and EF 50mm II for $50. It's an awesome setup that weighs almost nothing but is an absolute heavyweight.
Nice!!!
I'm late to watching this video. Cuz it came out the same day as the Roberts / Usedphotopro event in Indy. Feels kinda surreal. 😮
It’s funny how that happed haha
6:08 what the hell is going on here lmao???? I need answers
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Literally my EOS 5 QD (90$ in almost mint condition) arrived when this video uploaded, it makes me even more excited to use it
That’s great!!!!!!!!
Used to live near the Puente Hills Mall hahah, its sad that it's been dead for a few years but it always did give great memories. Love the Round1 Arcade there, and the fun fact of the parking lot being used for Back to the Future!
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I have the Nikon f80- for many of the same reasons, Def recommend it for Nikon users.
Oh nice! Good call!
Remembering so many memories at that mall
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2 years ago I spent ~$100 on a CIB EOS 50e (I believe the American name is Elan II) and it's awesome with all my EF glass. Great buy
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Canon eos are fantastic and whether it was to conserve manufacturing resources or just great foresight, the systems interchangeability is top notch. Almost 10 years ago, i bought a canon 1000f second hand for less then 20 euros. It was missing the eyepiece, but it uses the same eyepiece as my canon 6d! The lens hood for my 28-105mm and 28mm 1.8? The same! The lens hood for my 85mm 1.8 and 135mm softfocus lens? Also the same!
Same same same. Love it
the mall depressed me
but you lifted me up
but i'm still sad
No no. Film is alive be happy for that
I have one of those that I got for free. Still haven’t got myself a lens yet… I really should get round to that.
You should totally pick yourself up the lens
It is all about the lenses. There are adapters for the EF mount and many systems can be attached. There is also auto focus confirmation with those adapters included. So - the body may be an ugly plastic box, but if Helios lenses attached using the adapter - oh man, you can still shoot in the AV mode and rock it 🔥
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Hot take: I think that for years folks would say a good starter camera is the AE-1, Electro, etc. because they made so many of them, so there was a surplus available for cheap. That repeated enough times, created the opposite issue, and now they're over priced. The late stage film cameras didn't get the same hype, and now they're like $20.
I have this exact camera in my bids on a Goodwill site, so if it suddenly prices out for me following this video release, I know who to blame. (Me, for making this comment).
Hahahaha
I mean the great thing is if the cameras turn on they work they work
One reason those AE-1s were so cheap for a long time is because the success of the EF mount and the EOS system is that its incompatibility with with older Canon Glass left little demand for the older FD mount cameras and lenses. Of course, a zillion recommendations for a "cheap camera" will tend to undo that lack of demand.
another great video❤❤❤
ahhhhhh thanks
Now this is the type of camera I like to hear about! ❤❤❤❤
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I have a Rebel 2000 that I got new in the year 2000. Somehow that thing keeps on trucking despite being treated like crap for most of its existence. The pressure plate and areas where the film runs through are visibly worn. It outlasted my Nikon F3 (bought in 03, made late 90s mint condition in the box, but crapped out around 2009).
Can’t stop won’t stop
There was one of the used camera stores did a video comparing a film Leica M with a Leica lens and one of these cheap and killer canons with a 50 1.8. Of course the price difference was over 1,000 maybe even around 2,000. But the better photos came from the Canon.. Fun video and comparison to see.
Right. It’s so crazy! 🤪
Got a Rebel 2000 for literally $15 recently. While the build quality sucks its a fantastic camera for what it is.
15$ is awesome
I too have been getting into Pro Image 100 again. I too avoid gluten.
Hahah I get that
Love this series of cams. I've been using an RT (basically the same thing but with a pellicle mirror) for a while. So gooooood :D
So so good
Got my EOS 650 for around 80 bucks as an addition to my Canon AE-1 fully manual camera because I thought a more modern camera with at least autofocus, combine that with the EF mount lenses would make a great addition to my collection. But I found out that I personally much more prefer the simpilicity of my AE-1 with all its haptics over the EOS 650 hence i almost never use it.
Feels. I get it.
I'm on my second Rebel S and love it. I'd rather spend $1000 on a lens than a Leica held together by hope, faith, and electrical tape.
That’s what’s up yoooooo
The 50 1.8 STM that you have here is so much better (and recent) than the previous 1.8 that was slow to focus, noisy, like your 28.
Yeah the new one is dope
Had the loud n crunchy 35-70 zoom, and think it was the 75-210...both loud but rather sharp for the time produced...still have n use the 35-70
Had the loud n crunchy 35-70 zoom, and think it was the 75-210...both loud but rather sharp for the time produced...still have n use the 35-70
Vast majority of autofocus film cameras are unbelievably cheap for their capabilities, like you can get a Minolta Alpha 7/9 or a Nikon F5 for the price of a Canon AE-1, as well as plenty of other brands with high quality even late AF pro cameras for the price of more popular manual SLRs. I got a Nikon F-601 for 5 bucks that was completely new in box, and other consumer/entry level AF SLRs are very cheap.
Buy em alllll hahahaha
8:07 I'm guessing this guest services closed during Covid lockdowns and never reopened. Stamps were 55 cents from January '19 to Aug '21
Yeah probs
The same is true with Nikon autofocus consumer F mount film cameras.
So much value
@@BadFlashes I have both mounts plus an F5.
I just got a 300v and a 500 for combined ~15$. Amazing little things that work very well with my EF lenses I am using anyway.
That is such a fantastic price!
@@BadFlashes absolutely. Especially considering the price of batteries for those cams. I basically bought the batteries and got the cams for free.
Compared to my loved FTB ql they feel like toys, but they don't randomly explode every few films... That's kinda nice.
Do you have an electric Hasselblad now? 😂
But seriously people still sleep on the Minoltas, Nikons and Canons from the nineties to early 2000's. Not so the EOS 1V or Nikon F5/F6.
But there are so many Dynax,'s, F65's, or stuff like the Canon 650. I always recommend these now to friends wanting to try film out for cheap.
Well besides letting them borrow on of mine for a bit.
Unfortunately, I do not…. I would so take one and sell out in a heartbeat.
Hahahah
Oh totally they’re such great cameras and definitely do the trick
@@BadFlashes I would too, but I just got a Bronica EC-TL with a sweet Zenzanon 80mm 2.4 lens 😇
So at least 0.4 F-stop better than the best Hasselblad offering in 80mm.
Right? I have two 650's bought them both with nifty fifties for a combined $70. I also recently bought a A2 for for around $30. Great cameras and I am happy people don't like them, means they will continue to be inexpensive.
I found proimage to be very beige. And very muddy shadows. Any tips on how to get it better?
I actually haven’t dissected it yet, but don’t you worry I will
@@BadFlashes that would be awesome! Actually, just looking though my photos(I just recently got two rolls of proimage back) it was just a matter of under-exposure at dusk and it was overcast. The daylight pictures looked great.
I got a EOS 3000N as a gift and later got myself a 50e both are great SLRs
SLRs for the win!
That mall looks like the average high street in the UK these days, mostly empty.
Damn. Wow
My film EOS' are: the 7s the 55 and the 50e.
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