Thanks Ronnie I’m going to attempt these myself next week thanks for posting on the ground in your driveway instead of on a hoist makes a big difference IMO
I just finished the rear lift. OME with JKS Shackles and Ironman 4x4 Fab Relocation brackets front and rear. Getting ready to do the front. ACOS Adjustable Spacer, OME Springs and Shocks with JKS Adjustable Upper and Lower Control Arms and Adjustable Track Bar with JKS Quicker Sway Bar Disconnects! I'm only going around 3" or whatever gives me the rake and stance I'm looking for. Not sure where to start the adjustments on the Control Arms? Not really worried about the track bar adjustment...
A fine video that all shade tree lifters should see - it's amassing that so many people do not replace their control arms when they raise their XJ. These Rusty control arms look great and lubricating the assembly as you install it is excellent advice - I'm partial to coating threads with silicon too. Hopefully, time will demonstrate durable bushings in these arms! Have you tried Rubicon Express Control arms?
i have the full rustys kit, w/ upper and lower adjustables. ive got my axle forward 1.5 inches. why did you even spend the money on these if youre just using them in stock form? seems like a waste.
Mine just broke off completely the lower control arm bracket finally broke lose and the arm is hanging now any suggestions on how much you think it would cost to get welded and replaced at a shop
Whatever, my Honda VTECH can go through that intro trail and not even damage the body kit! Don't you hate when people say that crap! But someone had to say it. Well, that is out of the way. Rusty's Off Road® products are the single best packaged and heaviest built off road products you can get for a fair price. My tie rod, track bar, and fixed lower control arms are Rusty's Off Road®. I am getting the adjustable upper control arms from Rusty's as well. It seems the factory should have made the track bar and either the lower or upper control arms adjustable. But that is where Rusty's comes in. This stuff cures death wobble/death rattle, with great ease, and gets the caster angle you need even easier, um, on my Honda VTECH that is! By the way, that is a really well built XJ, tough enough - no fluff.
If you want better right flip those control arm put that angle to the top and I thought I was under the impression that the bushing goes towards the frame size
I swapped out the cross member from a standard transmission and it lowered my transmission and transfer case around 3/4"-1". Mines a 99 XJ. Not sure whether yours was a standard or auto?
Nice video mate! I have a 92 xj with 3,5’’ lift and 31s with stock control arms. I ordered some rough country to replace them. Tell me, what differences did you see on drive your xj? Thanks
Thanks Ronnie. I have 3" pucks up front on my '94 daily driver and it doesn't like the horrible paved road around here. Been trying to learn about angles etc., saw a video on control arm drop brackets to change the angles , does the bend in these control arms act the same way giving a flatter angle for better bump absorption?
@@johnnyblaze6810 Same boat here. No, it doesn't change your pinion angle with the bent arms. I ordered the control arm drop kit, so now the question will be, will these bent arms work with the drop kit... I'll find out this weekend.
I'm building an 89 xj what did you think about these adjustable lower control arm's. I'm searching for a pair that won't break the bank but still give me what I need for a 4.5 inch lift.
@@sethride9042 If you bought adjustable arms for no other reason than to have adjustable arms you are doing it wrong my friend. Only reason you should get them is if you need em. And if you need them for what they are designed for you definitely need to jack it up since you cannot move the axle on the ground.
The bend is for axle bracket clearance at full droop. It can't effect ride quality in any way. Your arm angle is determined by the ends regardless of what shape connects them.
you might have said it in the video, but are your upper control arms stock length? doing a 4.5in lift and wondering if others have had issues. Going to run fixed lift lower arms (zone lift kit). I have the same year XJ too, hopefully the lift goes well!
any thoughts on rustys parts in general? was considering going with one of their lifts, i've heard some good and some comparison to rc, but i always wonder if the shit talkers are just the sort that look down on them based on price alone
Davey Dread I put a Rusty’s lift on my JK. Adjustable control arms, track bars, everything needed for a 3.75” lift was there. It was solid, no problems.
Put a 3 inch on my cherokee from rustys and it's fine, I plan on changing my rear springs cause I did an add a leaf and was on a tight budget but it rides fine and the springs are holding up, coil springs are very stiff tho but ride awesome on the highway. I need fixed lower control arms too. But Ppl beat the shit out of their stuff and then cry saying it doesn't hold up when lift kits are honestly only meant for moderate off roading and street use. Unless it's from like Clayton off-road or some high end company which does dessert racing and extreme rock crawling. Rough country has decent stuff too but I've seen some stuff not last like it should.
My control arms are worse than yours, mine are rusted through on one end and wobble when you try to move them with your hand. They are on my replace list.
Start with a little longer than stock. Set her down, drive, check angles and readjust as necessary. Lowers move your axle forward and back so make it longer if you're lifted on stock arms to regain the lost wheelbase from lifting (really it isn't that much but it does help). Uppers adjust caster/pinion, caster taking precedence. Make sure it doesn't wander or feel unstable, check for the steering wheel's ability to return to center. You don't need to take it to a shop to check caster. Get an angle finder and hold it on the flat spot on either side of the diff cover...or if you're driveline is off, use the back of the yoke. Easy peasy!
Thanks Ronnie I’m going to attempt these myself next week thanks for posting on the ground in your driveway instead of on a hoist makes a big difference IMO
Thank you for showing us with no jack That's exactly what I was looking for
Put the grease joint UP. It's right where it will get knocked by a rock and broken. There is plenty of room to reach it on the top.
+Sam Sam I try that I couldn't get to them I haven't broke them off yet
How do you like eliminating the headliner? Does it affect the drive quality much? I’m thinking of taking mine out.
I just finished the rear lift. OME with JKS Shackles and Ironman 4x4 Fab Relocation brackets front and rear. Getting ready to do the front. ACOS Adjustable Spacer, OME Springs and Shocks with JKS Adjustable Upper and Lower Control Arms and Adjustable Track Bar with JKS Quicker Sway Bar Disconnects! I'm only going around 3" or whatever gives me the rake and stance I'm looking for. Not sure where to start the adjustments on the Control Arms? Not really worried about the track bar adjustment...
I’m about to buy these on my 6-7 inch lifted Jeep. My back axle moved hella forward so I need these to move it back so I can put bigger tires on
A fine video that all shade tree lifters should see - it's amassing that so many people do not replace their control arms when they raise their XJ. These Rusty control arms look great and lubricating the assembly as you install it is excellent advice - I'm partial to coating threads with silicon too. Hopefully, time will demonstrate durable bushings in these arms! Have you tried Rubicon Express Control arms?
i have the full rustys kit, w/ upper and lower adjustables. ive got my axle forward 1.5 inches. why did you even spend the money on these if youre just using them in stock form? seems like a waste.
Mine just broke off completely the lower control arm bracket finally broke lose and the arm is hanging now any suggestions on how much you think it would cost to get welded and replaced at a shop
Whatever, my Honda VTECH can go through that intro trail and not even damage the body kit! Don't you hate when people say that crap! But someone had to say it. Well, that is out of the way. Rusty's Off Road® products are the single best packaged and heaviest built off road products you can get for a fair price. My tie rod, track bar, and fixed lower control arms are Rusty's Off Road®. I am getting the adjustable upper control arms from Rusty's as well. It seems the factory should have made the track bar and either the lower or upper control arms adjustable. But that is where Rusty's comes in. This stuff cures death wobble/death rattle, with great ease, and gets the caster angle you need even easier, um, on my Honda VTECH that is!
By the way, that is a really well built XJ, tough enough - no fluff.
If you want better right flip those control arm put that angle to the top and I thought I was under the impression that the bushing goes towards the frame size
I just bought these and want to know what you meant by right side up. Did you mean have the adjustable end attached to the axle ? Thanks
@@cousin_JACK no they will stay at the same position ,the only thing you doing if flipping position the bend part up it will give you more clearance
@@kenskens69 I understand, instead of it looking like a hook it’ll look like a spider leg. Gotcha 👍
I swapped out the cross member from a standard transmission and it lowered my transmission and transfer case around 3/4"-1". Mines a 99 XJ. Not sure whether yours was a standard or auto?
Nice video mate! I have a 92 xj with 3,5’’ lift and 31s with stock control arms. I ordered some rough country to replace them. Tell me, what differences did you see on drive your xj? Thanks
Thanks Ronnie. I have 3" pucks up front on my '94 daily driver and it doesn't like the horrible paved road around here. Been trying to learn about angles etc., saw a video on control arm drop brackets to change the angles , does the bend in these control arms act the same way giving a flatter angle for better bump absorption?
Thats what i came here wondering, i see nobody ever answered you.
@@johnnyblaze6810 Same boat here. No, it doesn't change your pinion angle with the bent arms. I ordered the control arm drop kit, so now the question will be, will these bent arms work with the drop kit... I'll find out this weekend.
My question, does these control arms clear 12.5 wide tires on 15x8 wheels with 4.75 backspace?
hi, were to get those lower control arms? price? thank u. good video
I'm building an 89 xj what did you think about these adjustable lower control arm's. I'm searching for a pair that won't break the bank but still give me what I need for a 4.5 inch lift.
Your intro is way too long
+Clay Sensiba yeah this video I forgot to trim it sorry for that I edited at 3am in the morning lol
Did u lift ur jeep when u replaced the lower control arms?
Yeah I had a small one on it but you don’t have to
Will these fit in a 98 zj 4.0 I also put h&r lowering springs
So you can do the lower control arms wothout jacking the xj up
That how I do it
@@cherokeeronnie that's how I did it today hahah
@@sethride9042 If you bought adjustable arms for no other reason than to have adjustable arms you are doing it wrong my friend. Only reason you should get them is if you need em. And if you need them for what they are designed for you definitely need to jack it up since you cannot move the axle on the ground.
is ride quality better than with the stock control arms? I'm thinking they could improve the ride quality cause of the angle they have in the middle
+Enrico Mega Chiesa oh yeah It drives like a dream I didn't think it would drive to well with them flex joints but it rides good even off road
The bend is for axle bracket clearance at full droop. It can't effect ride quality in any way. Your arm angle is determined by the ends regardless of what shape connects them.
you might have said it in the video, but are your upper control arms stock length? doing a 4.5in lift and wondering if others have had issues. Going to run fixed lift lower arms (zone lift kit). I have the same year XJ too, hopefully the lift goes well!
+Jeep XJ yeah I have stock uppers you should be fine
Cherokee Ronnie awesome, appreciate the advice, keep up the good videos
Stickers??? Huh hmmmm never got 1 sticker ever!!😢
wow fucking intro i was fucking lost there ! XD
Does that adjuste the car to be how up or down you want it?
No
As always, great video and great information. I really do appreciate the vids you put out. Keep on keeping on brother. OlllllllO
any thoughts on rustys parts in general? was considering going with one of their lifts, i've heard some good and some comparison to rc, but i always wonder if the shit talkers are just the sort that look down on them based on price alone
Davey Dread I put a Rusty’s lift on my JK. Adjustable control arms, track bars, everything needed for a 3.75” lift was there. It was solid, no problems.
Put a 3 inch on my cherokee from rustys and it's fine, I plan on changing my rear springs cause I did an add a leaf and was on a tight budget but it rides fine and the springs are holding up, coil springs are very stiff tho but ride awesome on the highway. I need fixed lower control arms too. But Ppl beat the shit out of their stuff and then cry saying it doesn't hold up when lift kits are honestly only meant for moderate off roading and street use. Unless it's from like Clayton off-road or some high end company which does dessert racing and extreme rock crawling. Rough country has decent stuff too but I've seen some stuff not last like it should.
My control arms are worse than yours, mine are rusted through on one end and wobble when you try to move them with your hand. They are on my replace list.
Great info
What's the point of being adjustable?
Steering castor and pinion angle adjustment.
can u use them control arms with stock ride height
did you get an answer ? i want them for my stock jeep too
But why use them on stock? That's just throwing $$ away.
Why would you say it's going to squeak ?
I think that Rusty's uses hybrid polyurethane and rubber bushings. Polyurethane tends to squeak a bit no matter how much you grease them.
How did you determine what length to set them at?
Call them
KmanJeeper they are adjustable to set caster so it drives better if your jeep seems to be walking all over your caster is off.
Start with a little longer than stock. Set her down, drive, check angles and readjust as necessary. Lowers move your axle forward and back so make it longer if you're lifted on stock arms to regain the lost wheelbase from lifting (really it isn't that much but it does help). Uppers adjust caster/pinion, caster taking precedence. Make sure it doesn't wander or feel unstable, check for the steering wheel's ability to return to center. You don't need to take it to a shop to check caster. Get an angle finder and hold it on the flat spot on either side of the diff cover...or if you're driveline is off, use the back of the yoke. Easy peasy!
Intro is way too long. But thx for the vid
What a stupid to put a grease nipple, at the very bottom of the arm. It's going to be wiped off the very first rock you slide over!!!