Great convo as always when Jackie Perry is involved. However, i will say that it is important to remember how to be gentle with ppl when they've experienced church hurt. It's a delicate issue and requires all parties (the victims & the abusers) to press into a level of Christ likeness that can ONLY be facilitated and made possible by the power of the Holy Spirit. Only Holy Spirit can help us forgive when the abuse is repetitive and so deep that it's difficult to even verbalize. And yes, ppl experience incredible abuse IN "church." However, we can not say we've experienced such negativity IN Christ. Don’t reject Christ because of broken ppl in the church. Grace & peace good ppl ✌🏾🤍🙏🏾
This was so good! Also, the reason it is often referred to "CHURCH hurt" vs. a specific person may be because when reporting the specific person/violator of an offense or crime within the church...more often than not, the ENTIRE LEADERSHIP scurries to cover or excuse the violator/criminal or try to convince you it didn't happen and so it becomes an institutional offense vs. the actual perpetrator.
Often times its Steve, Teisha and everyone else on the leadership team. But I do love how she broke down the difference between a person who wants to reconcile and heal vs a person who is rebellious and doesn't desire to actually find solutions. Great convo!
Yes, I agree with Jackie, 5:17 , it’s a Holy Spirit case by case situation. God knows you better than anyone and He knows what will facilitate your healing.
Pastor Ebenezer & Minister Jackie did an AMAZING job of fleshing out things that are hard to describe and have language for in our Faith Walk. I appreciate the transparency and vulnerability as well as the anchoring to the Word of God for all guidance, knowledge, refuge, and help! This is how we disciple, admonish, and encourage others in The Lord!
That last question was so perfect and relatable! Despite the suffering in Christ, we are called to longsuffering and suffering is promised in life period! So I can AT LEAST suffer for now in this temporary life and wait on being free from suffering for eternity later 🤍 Truly where else can we go if suffering is guarunteed LOL? All we can do is hold on for now and keep the faith until the very end ❤🔥
Because I think sometimes when they say church hurt me unfortunately sometimes I think they're talking about the leaders of the church and no one wants to point out the leaders of the church
Great convo as always when Jackie Perry is involved. However, i will say that it is important to remember how to be gentle with ppl when they've experienced church hurt. It's a delicate issue and requires all parties (the victims & the abusers) to press into a level of Christ likeness that can ONLY be facilitated and made possible by the power of the Holy Spirit. Only Holy Spirit can help us forgive when the abuse is repetitive and so deep that it's difficult to even verbalize. And yes, ppl experience incredible abuse IN "church." However, we can not say we've experienced such negativity IN Christ. Don’t reject Christ because of broken ppl in the church. Grace & peace good ppl ✌🏾🤍🙏🏾
Great feedback!
This was so good! Also, the reason it is often referred to "CHURCH hurt" vs. a specific person may be because when reporting the specific person/violator of an offense or crime within the church...more often than not, the ENTIRE LEADERSHIP scurries to cover or excuse the violator/criminal or try to convince you it didn't happen and so it becomes an institutional offense vs. the actual perpetrator.
Such a good reminder to keep our sins in mind before we judge others. Great convo 👏🏾
Jackie's crying almost made me cry
She served with her humanity, led by the Spirit ... This was a blessing. ❤
Often times its Steve, Teisha and everyone else on the leadership team. But I do love how she broke down the difference between a person who wants to reconcile and heal vs a person who is rebellious and doesn't desire to actually find solutions. Great convo!
JHP This was so encouraging man had me tearing up.. like where would we go???? Jesus is our everything
Yes, I agree with Jackie, 5:17 , it’s a Holy Spirit case by case situation. God knows you better than anyone and He knows what will facilitate your healing.
Pastor Ebenezer & Minister Jackie did an AMAZING job of fleshing out things that are hard to describe and have language for in our Faith Walk.
I appreciate the transparency and vulnerability as well as the anchoring to the Word of God for all guidance, knowledge, refuge, and help! This is how we disciple, admonish, and encourage others in The Lord!
Appreciate you!
This is also good for witnessing to people who may not know The Lord!
Preaching the gospel to yourself..wow.. deep 🙌🙏🔥❣️
What an inspirational message especially her last answer🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This was a great episode. It hit so many good spots. Thank you. God Bless.
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Love the introductory music 🎶
This was so GOOD…❤
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This was so good and necessary
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Yoooo screw tape letters is something else okaaayyyy def a slowww must read
A good read though!
A slow read! Like slow slow.
I love it
Beautiful and truthful conversation.
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Beautiful
😢 wow. Thank you
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You better teach!!!
That last question was so perfect and relatable! Despite the suffering in Christ, we are called to longsuffering and suffering is promised in life period! So I can AT LEAST suffer for now in this temporary life and wait on being free from suffering for eternity later 🤍 Truly where else can we go if suffering is guarunteed LOL? All we can do is hold on for now and keep the faith until the very end ❤🔥
Because I think sometimes when they say church hurt me unfortunately sometimes I think they're talking about the leaders of the church and no one wants to point out the leaders of the church
Because, "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm"😪😪
Malachi 2 addresses how to select Bishops, Deacons, etc.
What was the scripture that was mentioned at (31:14) that the man read in audience?
1 Timothy 5:1
It’s Titus 2
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