I watched this whole thing and I appreciate Tony speaking on the core issue: that most women have been abused, cheated on, used, and heartbroken by men. Many times starting with their own fathers. If men would stop always just pointing the finger at women and actually try to take accountability for so many men out here running a muck, women would be more susceptible to listening. Even in church they always teaching women about keeping our legs closed, but they rarely ever talk about the men that are seducing them and romancing them into the bed, or grooming teen girls. Even looking at prostitution and women who are s3x workers - there wouldn’t be a clientele if the men weren’t buying. So we need more men to take accountability just as much as the women need to.
I heard someone once say, "you'll never really know why a man is with you." This is why relying on character is so important. Men always want to get something from us, so being for sale or on sale is a dangerous game. Even broke men pretend to have money to finesse women. Don't be so easily impressed by money.
🤦🏽♀️ FASTING in conjunction with prayer and waiting until you hear from the Lord is how you will know why a man wants to be with you before you even get with him. God knows the heart and the heart is deceitfully wicked. People go wrong doing it their way and not Gods way. Y’all really have to read the Bible and get into fasting.
@@Laoriginal718 you will never know anyone's full motives for anything because you are not inside their head. That is what discernment is for. Have a blessed one!
I heard this story. The lady was a single mom with two older children of her own, and the two young girls are the husband and wife’s together. So those are his own daughters, from what I heard she was changing the daughter and noticed the area and asked the baby about it. She then took the babies to the hospital.
To piggy back on what Caleb said guard your home as a solo parent. Be slow to introducing or bringing people in your home or around your children. Run background checks! And get at least one referral
@@mvpunique Also many men who do this have no criminal record at all and referrals are not very telling either. Some child abusers are pastors and philanthropist. No one would believe they are predators.
@@Missprimnproper Background checks aren’t for everything and neither are referrals it’s for safety and history. So in essence it’s some of the initial steps that can be taken to have a perspective while also doing your due diligence. What’s in the dark comes to light. The problem is desperation and rush most people don’t realize the power in patience
This type of abuse has been going on forever it’s not new. It’s not cultural. It has no tax bracket. People have been shamed for talking about it. I’m glad people are now speaking up. We as women have to stop being so gullible. Tony I sincerely appreciate you for speaking on this subject over the years.
She went to the hospital, and they confirmed that he abused the two girls, his biological daughters BTW. Also she used to post her husband on IG all the time
This issue is not a "rich man issue", it's it's "man" issue!! Princella keeps telling women and people make it a rich man or broke man issues!! And that's where the problem starts!!
Tony and Caleb are night and day. It’s very interesting watching a single man’s perspective in comparison to a married man’s perspective. Both hearts after the Lord but very different. It’s so interesting… great episode 👏🏾
The Trophy wife was a seemingly godly woman who posted Bible scriptures daily, and said the man was godly too! She spoke about discernment all the time, so she did the God thing. If you have a child, stay away from men.
i never understood why women want to be equal to men. I never wanted to be equal to any man. They have to do to alot that me being a woman can not do especially, physically.
Absolutely! My daddy always told me never compete with a man because your feelings will eventually be hurt. Have your own and decide if a man is worth being in your life.
I do everything a man does. I've been doing it all my life. We are equals. Doesn't mean we share the same responsibilities, but one is not less than the other. We are equally necessary.
this is a loud alarm for women all over. im 25 and followed isis but shes making me really take a step back to look at men and not be thirsty for a provider. other characteristics matter as well
Girl you can still have a provider but is not necessary rich or 6 figures man, and you can work to supplement the income, for savings, investments vacations or in case he get laid off. Unfortunately these women become so greedy that they ignored everything on the men but focused only on the big pocket.
The daughters that he touches are also his daughters by the way! 🤦🏾♀️ this is so sad and crazy I hope people are really learning a lesson from this im praying for those babies
Yall be talking good sense on here! I never listen to women when it comes to a man and I use discernment on what men I listen too. I know I want to be lead by a man spiritually, logically and emotionally. I know I can submit naturally, however, I keep meeting men who believe just because they’re a man that automatically makes them a leader but they’re leading with ego and not love (God) and purpose. When I date different men they say I’m to strong willed and don’t listen and can’t be lead but I feel like the men I have dated I have to stand up for myself towards them because I’m not being properly lead and I feel more like I’m be reprimanded like a child instead of being spoken to like an adult.
This!!!! And I also want to add that 9 out of 10 times we are doing better than them because we’re more focused on our goals, so how do you plan on leading me sir?
Watching this! Yes. Thanks Tony and Caleb for doing this video. The hypergamy movement is so loud, even good men are starting to believe that they need to be at a certain financial status to date or marry. Even men I've spoken too have lead the conversation with his income or ambitions not realizing I'm not a women that cares about all that. Money comes and goes. As long as we're not drowning and have eachother truly. Im good. I want to know the man not his money. But now this is being look at aswoman who's okay with low effort men. Finding alignment with all these voices that are viral is so hard
Yes, her name is Isis and she is lovely, as I was following her platform. She mentioned in her videos that she was trying to put God in it but also following "sprinkle sprinkle" lady advice while meeting her now-husband and believed he was the man God sent her. In her most recent video, she said he sexually assaulted her/ kids and had a history of sexual assault in the past. However, this was a huge eye-opening experience for me. Being a young woman myself there is SOO much confusion spread around and thankfully my parents warned me, and this situation. I have unfollowed that mindest and platform. The only way to anything is God, yes money is important but character and spiritual leadership matter more! Thank you for this video, and please help her if possible! Praying for her and her children, and sending encouragement to her as she's already hurting.
Your comment is very important because it speaks to the futility of attempting to mix God in with witchcraft. "Sprinkle Sprinkle" is an outright witch and what she is "teaching" these women is nothing short of witchcraft. So as soon as I realized what this young woman's page and angle was all about--her heartbreaking testimony made sense and I knew right away her husband was not sent of God. There is no limit to the destruction Satan can accomplish when given access. It's either God or its all this "manifesting" witchcraft foolishness--but it will NEVER be both. The faster people learn that the better. I will definitely be praying for her and her children's strength, healing and deliverance.
Also Tony tells us women to keep our trauma to ourselves when dealing with a man. In the video she said she was r word multiple times as a child and he knew how much she hated men like this
She has a total of 5, 3 of them are his, he touched both of their daughters 2 and 4 years old. She met him online and married him within a week of meeting him. Her words not mines.
This was sooooo good, it just makes me want to get as close to God as possible. To see two God fearing men have such a highly intellectual conversation is so refreshing ❤️
I watched her video too. So sad. I really feel for her. She is understandably completely broken. And kind of on the same topic since you mentioned evil spirits can get onto anyone, I saw another video on a channel that talks about crime and there was a Tik Toker who did his own sting op, sort of, pretending to be a 15 year old girl, and a married male teacher with kids of his own was talking to him thinking he was a 15 year old girl. The crime channel had on a sheriff who does these stings often and he said the number one reason that leads men to commit that crime is due to nasty movies. It reminded of what Tony said about nasty movies and how big of a problem they are. I thought it was interesting that this sheriff with lots of experience interviewing predators said the same thing. Nasty movies feed a nasty spirit.
She has 5 kids. 2 older boys she had when she met him and 3 she has with him, including their 2 daughters (4y/o & 2 y/o who he abused (“allegedly”)). The 5th child is a newborn who she literally just had.
His name is Jermaine ORENTHRO Dowdy. Black male, 5’9 203 lbs. 50 years old. Born on 10/09/1974. He’s ex military. Currently works as a Cyber Intelligence Analyst. He hasn’t been arrested but they do have a protective order against him. He also was arrested in November 2023 for DV. I also think she was pregnant when he was arrested for DV because. She posted a video in January 2024 where she was visibly pregnant. There’s court documents and multiple pictures of him.
I can’t listen to other for too long, even in their music! I’m like “Really Alicia?? How he don’t know your name?? He can’t read your name tag?? Girl, why you call him?? You sounded so thirsty!! Hang that phone up, you bout to get ran through!!!” 🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
I honestly believe these level up teachings are making women delusional. All of us will not get a rich man! I choose character over money any day! Having money is a bonus, but how you treat me and your relationship with God is a non negotiable for me!
I praise Tony and Calleb....the men women date are a reflection of their values or lack of thereof. What comes after, is a result of yr personal choices
I'm tired of meeting wolves in sheep's clothing. Many man aren't truly saved and not walking in holiness. Thank God I have discernment but some women don't.
@20:48 Everything going on in that time was not recorded in scripture All scripture is Holy Spirit led but also written by men along with their perspective/experience There could have been several “Deborah’s” but only one recorded
Remember Tony always says... its not about the money/lack of money. "Let a man's character be his currency". His character is the true revealor of his goals, ambitions, and his mindset in this life. Words of Tony Gaskins ❤
Red Flag #1 was she said that he Graped her twice at the beginning of the marriage. so he clearly showed signs of this types of issues. 2 and 4 yr old babies, gross and discussing.. I hope he go the jail, She said that she took the babies to the hospital and they confirmed that the 2 little girls had bee n molested
She actually has 5 kids in total and moved in with him after a week. I think getting married in under a year is fine so long as proper vetting is done while living separately
This thing of putting children first is totally wrong. How can you give a good upbringing to yr kids and care for them, if you don't put yourself first? You need to do for yourself, be in the right emotional, physical and financial place in order to raise yr kids the right way. It starts there! On a plane, you need to put yr mask on first BEFORE you put the mask on yr child.
Correct men that are not surrendered to God do not make good leaders. If you run into 10 men whether they be at the church or the club. 9-10 of them are an unfit leader. We’re not speaking from arrogance as women. We are speaking from our experiences.
Whats worse she met this man online which that is a dangerous tool to use to find fake Christian. God would not allow us to use social media find your kingdom spouse.
I thought a wife's purpose was to serve her husband and be a help meet in his purpose and ministry. But I cant say that out loud so I'll stop right there.
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Tony said years ago " let his character be his currency " and I never forgot that.🎯
Same 💯
Absolutely!! A man “affording” a woman does not ensure he will treat her well.
@@Beauty4ashes80 yes and just because a man in wealthy doesn’t mean he’s generous
Amen! That is what I looked for when I was dating. Character first.🙏🏾
I watched this whole thing and I appreciate Tony speaking on the core issue: that most women have been abused, cheated on, used, and heartbroken by men. Many times starting with their own fathers. If men would stop always just pointing the finger at women and actually try to take accountability for so many men out here running a muck, women would be more susceptible to listening.
Even in church they always teaching women about keeping our legs closed, but they rarely ever talk about the men that are seducing them and romancing them into the bed, or grooming teen girls. Even looking at prostitution and women who are s3x workers - there wouldn’t be a clientele if the men weren’t buying. So we need more men to take accountability just as much as the women need to.
Exactly!
I heard someone once say, "you'll never really know why a man is with you." This is why relying on character is so important.
Men always want to get something from us, so being for sale or on sale is a dangerous game. Even broke men pretend to have money to finesse women. Don't be so easily impressed by money.
Exactly
This applies to all women because we all have something men want. Also, men who have status and money.
🤦🏽♀️ FASTING in conjunction with prayer and waiting until you hear from the Lord is how you will know why a man wants to be with you before you even get with him. God knows the heart and the heart is deceitfully wicked. People go wrong doing it their way and not Gods way. Y’all really have to read the Bible and get into fasting.
@@Laoriginal718 you will never know anyone's full motives for anything because you are not inside their head. That is what discernment is for. Have a blessed one!
Tony: "They got married in under a year"
Caleb: "👀 sips tea"
"Men who are led by their egos, don't make good leaders"...Amen 🙌
I heard this story. The lady was a single mom with two older children of her own, and the two young girls are the husband and wife’s together. So those are his own daughters, from what I heard she was changing the daughter and noticed the area and asked the baby about it. She then took the babies to the hospital.
To piggy back on what Caleb said guard your home as a solo parent. Be slow to introducing or bringing people in your home or around your children. Run background checks! And get at least one referral
@@mvpunique Also many men who do this have no criminal record at all and referrals are not very telling either. Some child abusers are pastors and philanthropist. No one would believe they are predators.
It takes Holy Spirit to discern this. He will tell you. But one has to be submitted and not ignore.
@@Missprimnproper Background checks aren’t for everything and neither are referrals it’s for safety and history. So in essence it’s some of the initial steps that can be taken to have a perspective while also doing your due diligence. What’s in the dark comes to light. The problem is desperation and rush most people don’t realize the power in patience
This type of abuse has been going on forever it’s not new. It’s not cultural. It has no tax bracket. People have been shamed for talking about it. I’m glad people are now speaking up. We as women have to stop being so gullible. Tony I sincerely appreciate you for speaking on this subject over the years.
Exactly!
She went to the hospital, and they confirmed that he abused the two girls, his biological daughters BTW. Also she used to post her husband on IG all the time
Who is this person? I would to read about it
This issue is not a "rich man issue", it's it's "man" issue!! Princella keeps telling women and people make it a rich man or broke man issues!! And that's where the problem starts!!
I agree this is more so about character! Not rich or poor because, truth be told a lot of poverty ridden males do this as well.
Tony and Caleb are night and day. It’s very interesting watching a single man’s perspective in comparison to a married man’s perspective. Both hearts after the Lord but very different. It’s so interesting… great episode 👏🏾
Indeed! The difference is so apparent.
"Let's stop doing life without God" 💯💯💯. We will learn. The hard way, the easy way or maybe not at all, which makes one worse off
The Trophy wife was a seemingly godly woman who posted Bible scriptures daily, and said the man was godly too! She spoke about discernment all the time, so she did the God thing. If you have a child, stay away from men.
i never understood why women want to be equal to men. I never wanted to be equal to any man. They have to do to alot that me being a woman can not do especially, physically.
Absolutely! My daddy always told me never compete with a man because your feelings will eventually be hurt. Have your own and decide if a man is worth being in your life.
Compete with a man in what way? We already know physically we can’t do it and we were never meant to.
SAME!! I LOVE being a woman and would NEVER want to do what men do. It's just weird to me.😑😑
I do everything a man does. I've been doing it all my life. We are equals. Doesn't mean we share the same responsibilities, but one is not less than the other. We are equally necessary.
this is a loud alarm for women all over. im 25 and followed isis but shes making me really take a step back to look at men and not be thirsty for a provider. other characteristics matter as well
Girl you can still have a provider but is not necessary rich or 6 figures man, and you can work to supplement the income, for savings, investments vacations or in case he get laid off.
Unfortunately these women become so greedy that they ignored everything on the men but focused only on the big pocket.
The daughters that he touches are also his daughters by the way! 🤦🏾♀️ this is so sad and crazy I hope people are really learning a lesson from this im praying for those babies
This is a great video, thank you TG and Caleb for this.
Yall be talking good sense on here! I never listen to women when it comes to a man and I use discernment on what men I listen too. I know I want to be lead by a man spiritually, logically and emotionally. I know I can submit naturally, however, I keep meeting men who believe just because they’re a man that automatically makes them a leader but they’re leading with ego and not love (God) and purpose. When I date different men they say I’m to strong willed and don’t listen and can’t be lead but I feel like the men I have dated I have to stand up for myself towards them because I’m not being properly lead and I feel more like I’m be reprimanded like a child instead of being spoken to like an adult.
I second this notion that there are plenty of men who don’t necessarily lead- they treat us like kids
This!!!! And I also want to add that 9 out of 10 times we are doing better than them because we’re more focused on our goals, so how do you plan on leading me sir?
@@talkswithjas7959 Clocked it!!! ‼
Watching this! Yes. Thanks Tony and Caleb for doing this video. The hypergamy movement is so loud, even good men are starting to believe that they need to be at a certain financial status to date or marry. Even men I've spoken too have lead the conversation with his income or ambitions not realizing I'm not a women that cares about all that. Money comes and goes. As long as we're not drowning and have eachother truly. Im good. I want to know the man not his money. But now this is being look at aswoman who's okay with low effort men. Finding alignment with all these voices that are viral is so hard
Yes, her name is Isis and she is lovely, as I was following her platform. She mentioned in her videos that she was trying to put God in it but also following "sprinkle sprinkle" lady advice while meeting her now-husband and believed he was the man God sent her. In her most recent video, she said he sexually assaulted her/ kids and had a history of sexual assault in the past. However, this was a huge eye-opening experience for me. Being a young woman myself there is SOO much confusion spread around and thankfully my parents warned me, and this situation. I have unfollowed that mindest and platform. The only way to anything is God, yes money is important but character and spiritual leadership matter more! Thank you for this video, and please help her if possible! Praying for her and her children, and sending encouragement to her as she's already hurting.
Your comment is very important because it speaks to the futility of attempting to mix God in with witchcraft. "Sprinkle Sprinkle" is an outright witch and what she is "teaching" these women is nothing short of witchcraft. So as soon as I realized what this young woman's page and angle was all about--her heartbreaking testimony made sense and I knew right away her husband was not sent of God. There is no limit to the destruction Satan can accomplish when given access. It's either God or its all this "manifesting" witchcraft foolishness--but it will NEVER be both. The faster people learn that the better.
I will definitely be praying for her and her children's strength, healing and deliverance.
Ladies stop following a Man who is not following God!!!
She had daughters with her husband. People are conflating the children from different fathers
Also Tony tells us women to keep our trauma to ourselves when dealing with a man. In the video she said she was r word multiple times as a child and he knew how much she hated men like this
I just subscribed to Caleb's channel because of this video! Such wisdom! I wish i could find a Caleb in my city.
CC your shining and glowing! Thanks guys for the weekly show. Keep up the great work>)
Thank you Tony and Caleb for talking about this New Trophy Wife situation deeper and sharing the Christian perspective.
This is so good… I see and hear growth in Caleb. I love his perspective 🙌🏾
She has a total of 5, 3 of them are his, he touched both of their daughters 2 and 4 years old. She met him online and married him within a week of meeting him. Her words not mines.
This was sooooo good, it just makes me want to get as close to God as possible. To see two God fearing men have such a highly intellectual conversation is so refreshing ❤️
I watched her video too. So sad. I really feel for her. She is understandably completely broken. And kind of on the same topic since you mentioned evil spirits can get onto anyone, I saw another video on a channel that talks about crime and there was a Tik Toker who did his own sting op, sort of, pretending to be a 15 year old girl, and a married male teacher with kids of his own was talking to him thinking he was a 15 year old girl. The crime channel had on a sheriff who does these stings often and he said the number one reason that leads men to commit that crime is due to nasty movies. It reminded of what Tony said about nasty movies and how big of a problem they are. I thought it was interesting that this sheriff with lots of experience interviewing predators said the same thing. Nasty movies feed a nasty spirit.
her two kids are his which is crazy.
she spent the entire relationship pregnant. Think about it they have three kids together she has a new baby right now and two girls by him.
This was so powerful! Thank you
Caleb is very intelligent and Tony is on a different level but both together is a knowledge , wisdom
Women pleas stop gold digging while seeking a potential life partner
FACTS!!!!!
She has 5 kids. 2 older boys she had when she met him and 3 she has with him, including their 2 daughters (4y/o & 2 y/o who he abused (“allegedly”)). The 5th child is a newborn who she literally just had.
A rich or broke man is absolutely capable of doing this is solely about that individual
His name is Jermaine ORENTHRO Dowdy. Black male, 5’9 203 lbs. 50 years old. Born on 10/09/1974. He’s ex military. Currently works as a Cyber Intelligence Analyst. He hasn’t been arrested but they do have a protective order against him. He also was arrested in November 2023 for DV.
I also think she was pregnant when he was arrested for DV because. She posted a video in January 2024 where she was visibly pregnant.
There’s court documents and multiple pictures of him.
Please keep us updated!
Unfortunately you would think these are only young women in their 20’s or 30’s but I know women in their 50’s who has this mindset as well. 😢
Thank you Caleb for your understanding
different perspective it’s much needed.
Excellent points gentlemen! God bless you both!
Happy Sunday! Thank you guys.
Marrying someone who haven’t even known a year is idiotic.
I can’t listen to other for too long, even in their music! I’m like “Really Alicia?? How he don’t know your name?? He can’t read your name tag?? Girl, why you call him?? You sounded so thirsty!! Hang that phone up, you bout to get ran through!!!” 🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
Doing life without is absolutely not it! God knows best and is an incredible father. Always stay true to your faith!
How about High Quality instead of this High Value
I haven’t seen any men speak on this! I’m excited to hear your perspective. ❤
I honestly believe these level up teachings are making women delusional. All of us will not get a rich man! I choose character over money any day! Having money is a bonus, but how you treat me and your relationship with God is a non negotiable for me!
The biggest creeps are in the church !
Great topic and wonderful insight from both.
I praise Tony and Calleb....the men women date are a reflection of their values or lack of thereof. What comes after, is a result of yr personal choices
He grapped her early on in their marriage
I'm tired of meeting wolves in sheep's clothing. Many man aren't truly saved and not walking in holiness. Thank God I have discernment but some women don't.
Yes, many men are fake Christians, they are not even converts let alone disciples
@20:48 Everything going on in that time was not recorded in scripture
All scripture is Holy Spirit led but also written by men along with their perspective/experience
There could have been several “Deborah’s” but only one recorded
Hit the like button people. She has a picture of herself and her husband in some of her videos.
Who wouldn’t they get the full story before talking about it
They got married in a week
❤this partnership. Thank you both. 52:52
1 Corinthians 11:1-16 (NIV)
Good conversation brothers!
My father was broke. And abusive. And he went to church. So what now?
Remember Tony always says... its not about the money/lack of money. "Let a man's character be his currency". His character is the true revealor of his goals, ambitions, and his mindset in this life.
Words of Tony Gaskins ❤
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Can you please share the email that we can use to inquire about coming onto the podcast? I couldn’t find a good email address for you both.🙏🏽❤️
Red Flag #1 was she said that he Graped her twice at the beginning of the marriage. so he clearly showed signs of this types of issues. 2 and 4 yr old babies, gross and discussing.. I hope he go the jail, She said that she took the babies to the hospital and they confirmed that the 2 little girls had bee n molested
😢
Not twice, FOUR TIMES!
She actually has 5 kids in total and moved in with him after a week. I think getting married in under a year is fine so long as proper vetting is done while living separately
Women who think that way, don't make get wives!
Nor good mothers!
Facts❤ Godly men are leaders, wordly men are temporal. Thank you🙏🏽
This thing of putting children first is totally wrong. How can you give a good upbringing to yr kids and care for them, if you don't put yourself first? You need to do for yourself, be in the right emotional, physical and financial place in order to raise yr kids the right way. It starts there! On a plane, you need to put yr mask on first BEFORE you put the mask on yr child.
That’s right CC 16:39 BC if all that goes away will that person still love you.
My heart is broken 😢 this is really sad and bad!
Yea it was the 2 year old too
Coach this verse I’m reading in 2 Timothy2:6-9 and it’s similar to your video
Correct men that are not surrendered to God do not make good leaders. If you run into 10 men whether they be at the church or the club. 9-10 of them are an unfit leader. We’re not speaking from arrogance as women. We are speaking from our experiences.
17:19 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
So since women can take men away from God! How can they bring them back???! If at all possible?
Whats worse she met this man online which that is a dangerous tool to use to find fake Christian. God would not allow us to use social media find your kingdom spouse.
That’s right TG 19:26.
Wow praying for those little girls ladies we have to do better stop marrying and dating for money so sad Jesus be a fence
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I thought a wife's purpose was to serve her husband and be a help meet in his purpose and ministry. But I cant say that out loud so I'll stop right there.