If I had a Nickle for every time Kullervo got charged with Treason I would have two nickles........which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
Kullervo, Kullervo, swaddled in lies Raised to a life of groans and cries Took to his task with sorrowing sighs Kullervo, Kullervo, death was his prize. Kullervo, Kullervo, stranger to mirth Spoke with the ragged who toiled in the earth Learned of the truth of the days of his birth Kullervo, Kullervo, what was he worth Kullervo, Kullervo, warrior born From his mother’s breast he was torn Doomed to go wandering all forlorn Kullervo, Kullervo, made to morn Kullervo, Kullervo, sworn to the sword Sweated and slaved for the head of the horde Bruised and bludgeoned and scard and gored Kullervo, Kullervo, warriors ward Kullervo, Kullervo, burdens he bore Many the woes and horrors he saw Tyrants and conquerors ravaging the poor. Kullervo, Kullervo, witness to war Kullervo, Kullervo, far he strayed Lips to the steel he blessed and prayed Whispered promises that boy made Kullervo, Kullervo, friend to the blade Kullervo, Kullervo, broke like a flood Ripped and he ravaged with a slash, slice, thud Many lay headless, armless in the mud Kullervo, Kullervo, bathed in blood Kullervo, Kullervo ragged and thin Tracked back the path so steeped in sin All the way back to where it did begin Kullervo, Kullervo, sought for his kin Kullervo, Kullervo, stood all alone Over the graves of the ones he’d known Homestead warmth turned to ashes and bone Kullervo, Kullervo, cold as stone Kullervo, Kullervo, long did he weep In his own breast his sword drove deep Down to the dark and a merciful sleep Kullervo, Kullervo, your secrets we keep.
The existance of Kullervo is an interesting one, because him being a protowarframe means that we could see other protowarframes and even warframes that were thought to be completely destroyed through Duviri or other void shenanigans. Also, when Kullervo Prime comes, I predict he will look in style similar to Excalibur Umbra.
@@myfriendscallmejojoI doubt that. Considering how big of a piece of shit Ballas was, you really think he wouldn't have done the same exact thing to someone else?
@@myfriendscallmejojo Umbra is implied to just be made from one of the failed infested strains before they perfected Warframes, just brought out of retirement as a torture method.
How could kullervo prime even be possible? Primes are the original frames of which the regular ones are an inperfect copy of, but kullervo is a proto-frame, meaning he came first
No joke, now that you are saying it, it would be really cool to have a series of videos were you explain the origins behind every frame, like oberon and titania being characters from the play "Midsumer Nigths Dream" or Wukong story from Journey to the West.
kullervo - what about treason? ballas - you've already had it kullervo - ive had one yes, but what about second treason? tenno - i dont think ballas knows about second treason kullervo - *crimes intensify*
So... Kullervo would be kind of cool if he got Proto Kullervo instead of Prime... Could be fun to have Warframes become more monstrous. Mouths, eyes, maybe thoughts we hear sometimes? Maybe we fight their control as we level it until mastery stops then fighting you? Could be a fun twist. Add back self damage then have Warframes that can take control and run away from points or run to kill more when they need to be defending the target. Self mutilation while they mock us? Could get weird.
@@trevorkirimi58not really lore wise Umbral Excal is the only one we know about and he was specifically made by Ballasas a form of punishment for a specific person.
Ya know, kind of an off comment but if there is one thing I would love to see warframe do, is give us a proper look at the original Orokin capitol. Heck with Wally becoming more important to the story and we know he can show us images I think it could be neat to have a big story quest that throws us back to the original orokin empire, not a corrupted image like Duviri or the destroyed/empty remnants of Lua/the void towers. I would love to see the original council and the executioners in thier glory and the empire before its fall.
Me too. I wished to see that from the moment I learned that Orokin had an empire, and that it was glorius. I would even like to have a quest in such surounding... something that would allow us to go through a day... or a week.. or a month living in such empire, but that would go too much out of Warframe and into RPG space (Which is not bad, but I doubt DE wishes that for Warframe)
My greatest wish for a future quest would be for us to visit the past and take part in the Night of the Naga Drums from various Tennos' perspectives, with it all ending in the final fight we see in the opening Cinematic
3:20 now that we know multiple scientists had a hand in warframe creation, i'd like to know the entire science team working on the warframe project and who contributed to who.
It certainly does sound like Kullervo is more of a proto frame, I suspect DE - if they ever expand on his lore - will go with something like Kullervo originally being a Dax soldier who was turned into a warframe as partial punishment for his crimes. As for the thought of a video on Kullervo's mythical inspirations, maybe you could do a series of videos where you dive into the stories/myths that served as inspirations for the frames.
All this lore makes me want Warframe's next really big lore expansion to be where we somehow are able to re-live the events of the Old War. I want to see the Orokin Empire at its peak, or at least its peak during the Old War. Its a great way to expand upon exactly what was the tipping point, that caused virtually all Tenno to rise up and go full Exterminatus upon the Orokin. My understanding was that we Tenno were either manipulated or flat out mind controlled to slaughter all Orokin on sight, when the Old War ended; As some kind of one last Sentient fuck you to the Orokin, by turning their greatest weapons against them. But with Kullervo's lore, where he supposedly was poisoning the minds of the Tenno against the Orokin (like that's particularly difficult) implying that we WILLINGLY exterminated the Orokin, dooming the Origin System to utter chaos, and collapse.
yoooo, imagine if Kullervo prime is the version of him that was still obsessed with Ballas' approval, like, if you enter a mission and you have a relic that has one of his parts, he could appear and try to kill the tenno like how the stalkers do it. and if you kill him, same thing, a chance you might get one of his parts corresponding to the relic.
I don't know exactly how this would fit lore-wise (if there even is any lore to conflict), but I think an interesting potential 'proto-warframe' if they decided to expand in that route would be an infested necramech. It'd be an interesting idea to show the failures of the project and how it manifested in some half-sentient (as in aware not the sentients) but half bound by machinery psuedo-proto-warframe. Maybe the corn in the middle could've expanded to a kind of warframe itself and the rest of the necramech would simply be armour, and to represent the failed and tormented state you could choose between better warframe oriented skills in the main frame but a basically non-existent health pool or clunky movement and basic abilities but superior defence. How they would implement that I don't know but there's definitely lots of room to work with the concept.
so this means we have (proto-)warframe that is acting on it's own behalve like umbra was.. without tenno control... really cool that we get a second warframe that is not just a tool
I really wish DE would do more with story writing in warframe, The Sacrifice is my favourite quest and this is just my opinion but I think its their best
kullervo is more influencial than you think ! one half of Micheal Moorcock's genre defining epic Elric of Melnibone was pretty much inspired by Kullervo's Sword which feeds on souls and Elric's imagery despite being underrated has been used in heavy metal albums all the way from Lemmy's band before Motorhead named Hawkwind to Blue oyster cult to Diamond Head and Deep Purple infact many works of fiction are straight out ganks Elric's world building elements and Character design you might've heard of this particular Polish fantasy series called The Hexer in english more colloquially know as The Witcher
Nice to see you interested in Finnish epic Kalevala. 😊 i am from Finland. Usually our history and stuff is not that popular So Nice to see that our history/culture gets some Spotlight.
Like others theorise, these all sound like things Ballas, known traitor, would have done and pinned on Kullervo. The daggers in his body seem like a memento of betrayal/being murdered (Caesar-style). So, we've had "the seven crimes of Kullervo", imagine for his prime, "the seven exonerations of Kullervo". No longer driven by revenge, but justice.
I think he is inspired heavily by Kalevala. If we listen to that poem that kids are singing... its Kalevala in rhyme. WHat I am interested in... WHY ARE THERE SO MANY KIDS around his hold? WHat gives? And why that kid is keeping his sword hidden underground?
I think it's important to take Kullervo's tale with a MASSIVE, GIGANTIC grain of salt, since Ballas is the one telling it. Y'know what I think? Kullervo was a scapegoat for Ballas' own crimes. I don't think he killed those orokin, or even his mother for that matter, I think Ballas is the one who orchestrated their deaths and placed the blame on Kullervo. A little theory of mine is that Kullervo's mother was one of the people Ballas wanted to get rid of, and he decided to go after her family first, that would be pretty typical of him, don't you think? To me, the guilt in Kullervo stems not from his crimes, but from his failures. His failure to help his fellow proto-frames, his failure to keep his mother safe, his failure to put down the lying snake who ruined his life and so many others. Kullervo is such an interesting character to me, because as far as I'm aware he's one of the few frames out there who mantained their sanity and personality (at least to some extent?), and not only that, he's still alive! I wish we could free him for good and get him out of duviri, and not just by building him in our foundry, y'know? I hope DE does more with him in the future, because it would feel like a waste to give him so much character (compared to some other frames at least) and then not expand on it even a little.
I really need a Explanation in the Warframe Part of the Lore, as in all the Quest Storys of the Warframe, Limbo, Titania, etc. or Valkyr, Rhinoo. When mentioned in they're Quests Trailers are they already controlled by the tenno... were those Storys before the tenno, so they were sentient but now they arent ...? Gara for example is her story of a tenno which just had those spezific abilities on his Frame, was it a Frame before the tenno and with it mind still intact after the transformation, if yes why isnt it moving anymore?
Honestly, I want more of those creepy fkin children's songs in Kullervo's Hold. Reminds me of the little children's song kids have in Witcher about Gaunter O'Dimm.
I would watch a Kalevala video. As a fin, I'd like to know more about the epic from someone smarter than me. I could read it in finnish, but my brain isn't able to comprehend what is happening in the book due to the way it was writen. I have nothing against of how it was written, since it is a collection of tales once passed on through mouth to mouth that were often through song. I don't have the capasity to understand the epic by myself, so I planned to one day look up a video that can tell me about it, be it in english or finnish. Would love to hear it from this charming fellow. Also us fins would appreciate it.
Honestly, this lore seems to have a very notable trope: The unreliable narrator. Might just be reading into it too much, but the lore we are presented with feels very one-sided and incomplete. Like we’re only getting a part of the whole story.
The Tennos all have names linked to ancient mythology like Valkry she has a awesome story,the Kullervo story was awesome makes you more connected to the characters
I think stalker is something very different.. sounds more like some transfered their consciousness into a frame... like in the titania quest with the archemedian that put herself in the silver growth
Stalker is VERY different, he was simply a Dax soilder and he transferenced into a warframe, which drove him mad and mixed with his want and urge for revenge it gave him one goal for the rest of time. To kill the Tenno for the slaughter of the Orokin.
Yea, umbra was created during the end of the war, sometime before the Sentient attack on the Lua's Reservoirs, as the creation of Umbra was a punishment on Dax for discovering the treason of Ballas on his own kind by telling the location of the Tenno
@@Okabe_Rintaro thats HORRIBLY incorrect, Umbra existed AFTER proto frames because Umbra had a transference bolt in him but kept his free will because Ballas was torturing him The Proto frames were effectively flesh golems with no real way to control them unless they were either loyal or effectively brain dead, and essentially psychosis was the usual outcome creating things like the Proto Rhino who was literally eating people like a wild beast. Also Umbra is called Umbra because of his containment on the moon or because thats just where he was kept for all eternity to keep reliving the same horrible memory over and over and over, its also related to the Tenno's own resting grounds because Lua is where the tenno also rested in their transference pods after the massacaring of the Orokin, to try and forget the painful memories of war and violence, something Umbra is also trying to forget, something we, who have moved past their trauma and pain, can now help Umbra do the same and be better.
So this is my only question and maybe I just wasn’t paying close enough attention in the beginning, but did Ballas set this whole thing in motion essentially entrapping kullveros or was this something he did of his own volition and then backed himself into a corner digging a deeper hole of his own sins? Cause if Ballas set him up then kullveros’ cause was just, but otherwise it’s just a tragedy.
Since this is all being told by ballas, IMO this is all bs and Kullervo is innocent. Maybe 1 or 2 crimes might be committed by him after getting captured and finding out that ballas got rid of his mother but the rest. I don't buy it.
9:44 My headcannon is that Kullervo is an Ordan Karris turned Warframe rather than Cephalon. With no operator to tie a guilty Beast of Bones to, Ballas turned him into a warframe instead as a form of attonement for his crimes. As a Cephalon, Ordan Karris was torn apart from who he once was; and Kullervo as we see, is also fragmented.
Id love that and it would be cool, but ordan karris didn't turn on the orokin until the very end, there was no espionage, treason, or flight from custody.
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I'm going to continue making more of these types of videos in between Warframe Updates. But also Expanding them into other games.
Fun fact: Kullervo's signature shotgun the Rauta means Iron in Finnish.
If I had a Nickle for every time Kullervo got charged with Treason I would have two nickles........which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
coulda said a potato 😳
Basically Ballas being Ballas.
@@AdrianoSnortsif i hand a orokin potato for every time…
Kullervo, Kullervo, swaddled in lies
Raised to a life of groans and cries
Took to his task with sorrowing sighs
Kullervo, Kullervo, death was his prize.
Kullervo, Kullervo, stranger to mirth
Spoke with the ragged who toiled in the earth
Learned of the truth of the days of his birth
Kullervo, Kullervo, what was he worth
Kullervo, Kullervo, warrior born
From his mother’s breast he was torn
Doomed to go wandering all forlorn
Kullervo, Kullervo, made to morn
Kullervo, Kullervo, sworn to the sword
Sweated and slaved for the head of the horde
Bruised and bludgeoned and scard and gored
Kullervo, Kullervo, warriors ward
Kullervo, Kullervo, burdens he bore
Many the woes and horrors he saw
Tyrants and conquerors ravaging the poor.
Kullervo, Kullervo, witness to war
Kullervo, Kullervo, far he strayed
Lips to the steel he blessed and prayed
Whispered promises that boy made
Kullervo, Kullervo, friend to the blade
Kullervo, Kullervo, broke like a flood
Ripped and he ravaged with a slash, slice, thud
Many lay headless, armless in the mud
Kullervo, Kullervo, bathed in blood
Kullervo, Kullervo ragged and thin
Tracked back the path so steeped in sin
All the way back to where it did begin
Kullervo, Kullervo, sought for his kin
Kullervo, Kullervo, stood all alone
Over the graves of the ones he’d known
Homestead warmth turned to ashes and bone
Kullervo, Kullervo, cold as stone
Kullervo, Kullervo, long did he weep
In his own breast his sword drove deep
Down to the dark and a merciful sleep
Kullervo, Kullervo, your secrets we keep.
OMG Ty! I've just picked up the Kalevala on audio book and am loving it.
And here I thought Umbra had the most tragic story.
The existance of Kullervo is an interesting one, because him being a protowarframe means that we could see other protowarframes and even warframes that were thought to be completely destroyed through Duviri or other void shenanigans.
Also, when Kullervo Prime comes, I predict he will look in style similar to Excalibur Umbra.
You keep forgetting umbra is one of a kind
@@myfriendscallmejojoI doubt that. Considering how big of a piece of shit Ballas was, you really think he wouldn't have done the same exact thing to someone else?
@@myfriendscallmejojo You forgot that they are the only two warframes directly spoken to by Ballas.
@@myfriendscallmejojo Umbra is implied to just be made from one of the failed infested strains before they perfected Warframes, just brought out of retirement as a torture method.
How could kullervo prime even be possible? Primes are the original frames of which the regular ones are an inperfect copy of, but kullervo is a proto-frame, meaning he came first
Proto-warframes, that would be something id love to see expanded more in the game's story and gameplay in some way
Well there is the excal proto-armor
@@lilplague4857 proto-armor, not proto-excalibur, and the skin is a reference to Dark Sector, DE previous game before working on Warframe
@@GreytestGrey ah
@@Okabe_Rintarokinda? Thats more or less a smart Infested and part of the hivemind, the Proto frames are singular and horribly twisted people
No joke, now that you are saying it, it would be really cool to have a series of videos were you explain the origins behind every frame, like oberon and titania being characters from the play "Midsumer Nigths Dream" or Wukong story from Journey to the West.
And Grendel from beowulf
kullervo - what about treason?
ballas - you've already had it
kullervo - ive had one yes, but what about second treason?
tenno - i dont think ballas knows about second treason
kullervo - *crimes intensify*
So... Kullervo would be kind of cool if he got Proto Kullervo instead of Prime... Could be fun to have Warframes become more monstrous. Mouths, eyes, maybe thoughts we hear sometimes? Maybe we fight their control as we level it until mastery stops then fighting you? Could be a fun twist. Add back self damage then have Warframes that can take control and run away from points or run to kill more when they need to be defending the target. Self mutilation while they mock us? Could get weird.
Proto frames in general might be a nice addition for certain frames like Rhino, Kullervo etc. But can't see it.
Aren't proto warframes just umbral warframes
@@trevorkirimi58not really lore wise Umbral Excal is the only one we know about and he was specifically made by Ballasas a form of punishment for a specific person.
@@angelicgamer131 oh i see thanks for the info
Na
Ya know, kind of an off comment but if there is one thing I would love to see warframe do, is give us a proper look at the original Orokin capitol. Heck with Wally becoming more important to the story and we know he can show us images I think it could be neat to have a big story quest that throws us back to the original orokin empire, not a corrupted image like Duviri or the destroyed/empty remnants of Lua/the void towers. I would love to see the original council and the executioners in thier glory and the empire before its fall.
Me too. I wished to see that from the moment I learned that Orokin had an empire, and that it was glorius. I would even like to have a quest in such surounding... something that would allow us to go through a day... or a week.. or a month living in such empire, but that would go too much out of Warframe and into RPG space (Which is not bad, but I doubt DE wishes that for Warframe)
My greatest wish for a future quest would be for us to visit the past and take part in the Night of the Naga Drums from various Tennos' perspectives, with it all ending in the final fight we see in the opening Cinematic
"I guess I'm not the darkest anymore... " (cries in Harrow)
So basically he's one of the old but new Warframe of the old age
Basically, He's old but new to us yeah
3:20 now that we know multiple scientists had a hand in warframe creation, i'd like to know the entire science team working on the warframe project and who contributed to who.
It certainly does sound like Kullervo is more of a proto frame, I suspect DE - if they ever expand on his lore - will go with something like Kullervo originally being a Dax soldier who was turned into a warframe as partial punishment for his crimes.
As for the thought of a video on Kullervo's mythical inspirations, maybe you could do a series of videos where you dive into the stories/myths that served as inspirations for the frames.
All this lore makes me want Warframe's next really big lore expansion to be where we somehow are able to re-live the events of the Old War. I want to see the Orokin Empire at its peak, or at least its peak during the Old War. Its a great way to expand upon exactly what was the tipping point, that caused virtually all Tenno to rise up and go full Exterminatus upon the Orokin. My understanding was that we Tenno were either manipulated or flat out mind controlled to slaughter all Orokin on sight, when the Old War ended; As some kind of one last Sentient fuck you to the Orokin, by turning their greatest weapons against them. But with Kullervo's lore, where he supposedly was poisoning the minds of the Tenno against the Orokin (like that's particularly difficult) implying that we WILLINGLY exterminated the Orokin, dooming the Origin System to utter chaos, and collapse.
even ballas's death, his voice still haunts every warframe player to this day xD
yoooo, imagine if Kullervo prime is the version of him that was still obsessed with Ballas' approval, like, if you enter a mission and you have a relic that has one of his parts, he could appear and try to kill the tenno like how the stalkers do it. and if you kill him, same thing, a chance you might get one of his parts corresponding to the relic.
Love the finnish representation! The Kalevala is a great tale of finnish folklore and I think it definitely should get more attention.
Bro had a rock baked in his bread and was very displeased about it
@@saverofthehumens The rock broke his knife :(
I would absolutely watch CrashCourse Mythology style vids of your favorite influences/mythos in your favorite games!
I don't know exactly how this would fit lore-wise (if there even is any lore to conflict), but I think an interesting potential 'proto-warframe' if they decided to expand in that route would be an infested necramech. It'd be an interesting idea to show the failures of the project and how it manifested in some half-sentient (as in aware not the sentients) but half bound by machinery psuedo-proto-warframe. Maybe the corn in the middle could've expanded to a kind of warframe itself and the rest of the necramech would simply be armour, and to represent the failed and tormented state you could choose between better warframe oriented skills in the main frame but a basically non-existent health pool or clunky movement and basic abilities but superior defence. How they would implement that I don't know but there's definitely lots of room to work with the concept.
so this means we have (proto-)warframe that is acting on it's own behalve like umbra was.. without tenno control... really cool that we get a second warframe that is not just a tool
I really wish DE would do more with story writing in warframe, The Sacrifice is my favourite quest and this is just my opinion but I think its their best
That was an amazing concise video going over his lore. Thank you Tater!
Glad you enjoyed it dude!
If we’re being honest, I would love some Remnant 2 videos. I’ve been having a lot of fun with it. Currently playing through on Apocalypse.
TBH, I've completed it and put it to one side for the DLC
Yeah kullervo's existance is just pain, both physical and psycological. Finally someone that is as depressed as umbra.
Never fear, TC. I'll be diving into the cultural inspirations for Kullervo soon. And luckily I have already read the Kalevala 👍🏾
I think i might replay The New War with Kullervo, even if it doesn't really make a difference, I'd like to give him the chance to fight properly.
Informative mythology videos from everyone's favorite potato? Heck yeah I'd be interested in that.
I would definitely love to see video on the underlying mythology @TacticalPotato.
kullervo is more influencial than you think ! one half of Micheal Moorcock's genre defining epic Elric of Melnibone was pretty much inspired by Kullervo's Sword which feeds on souls and Elric's imagery despite being underrated has been used in heavy metal albums all the way from Lemmy's band before Motorhead named Hawkwind to Blue oyster cult to Diamond Head and Deep Purple infact many works of fiction are straight out ganks Elric's world building elements and Character design you might've heard of this particular Polish fantasy series called The Hexer in english more colloquially know as The Witcher
Nice to see you interested in Finnish epic Kalevala. 😊 i am from Finland. Usually our history and stuff is not that popular So Nice to see that our history/culture gets some Spotlight.
Like others theorise, these all sound like things Ballas, known traitor, would have done and pinned on Kullervo. The daggers in his body seem like a memento of betrayal/being murdered (Caesar-style).
So, we've had "the seven crimes of Kullervo", imagine for his prime, "the seven exonerations of Kullervo". No longer driven by revenge, but justice.
I think he is inspired heavily by Kalevala. If we listen to that poem that kids are singing... its Kalevala in rhyme. WHat I am interested in... WHY ARE THERE SO MANY KIDS around his hold? WHat gives? And why that kid is keeping his sword hidden underground?
I really did need this explained to me. The confusing timeline of the history made it hard to parse just from the plaques themselves.
I think it's important to take Kullervo's tale with a MASSIVE, GIGANTIC grain of salt, since Ballas is the one telling it. Y'know what I think? Kullervo was a scapegoat for Ballas' own crimes. I don't think he killed those orokin, or even his mother for that matter, I think Ballas is the one who orchestrated their deaths and placed the blame on Kullervo. A little theory of mine is that Kullervo's mother was one of the people Ballas wanted to get rid of, and he decided to go after her family first, that would be pretty typical of him, don't you think? To me, the guilt in Kullervo stems not from his crimes, but from his failures. His failure to help his fellow proto-frames, his failure to keep his mother safe, his failure to put down the lying snake who ruined his life and so many others.
Kullervo is such an interesting character to me, because as far as I'm aware he's one of the few frames out there who mantained their sanity and personality (at least to some extent?), and not only that, he's still alive! I wish we could free him for good and get him out of duviri, and not just by building him in our foundry, y'know? I hope DE does more with him in the future, because it would feel like a waste to give him so much character (compared to some other frames at least) and then not expand on it even a little.
I really need a Explanation in the Warframe Part of the Lore, as in all the Quest Storys of the Warframe, Limbo, Titania, etc. or Valkyr, Rhinoo. When mentioned in they're Quests Trailers are they already controlled by the tenno... were those Storys before the tenno, so they were sentient but now they arent ...? Gara for example is her story of a tenno which just had those spezific abilities on his Frame, was it a Frame before the tenno and with it mind still intact after the transformation, if yes why isnt it moving anymore?
Honestly, I want more of those creepy fkin children's songs in Kullervo's Hold. Reminds me of the little children's song kids have in Witcher about Gaunter O'Dimm.
Those words must've hurt Kullervo to the core, that he felt knives in his body
if you know you know
bro was collecting every change possible 🥶
ash was at the 4 front when the stadium was flooded with blood.
Legit started using him after maining Wukong ans his prime variant for YEARS. IDK but Love Kullervo 😂
I would watch a Kalevala video. As a fin, I'd like to know more about the epic from someone smarter than me. I could read it in finnish, but my brain isn't able to comprehend what is happening in the book due to the way it was writen. I have nothing against of how it was written, since it is a collection of tales once passed on through mouth to mouth that were often through song. I don't have the capasity to understand the epic by myself, so I planned to one day look up a video that can tell me about it, be it in english or finnish. Would love to hear it from this charming fellow.
Also us fins would appreciate it.
Im totally down for Mythology tater, les gooo do it!!
Now we need to get other proto warframe to see what they can do
as a Finn, I would love to hear your opinion and thoughts on Kalevala.
Yes please, mythology mythos please. ❤
I want Tactical to read me a bed time story 😂😂
I think it really is ballas
Hes the number a-hole for his kind
Honestly, this lore seems to have a very notable trope:
The unreliable narrator.
Might just be reading into it too much, but the lore we are presented with feels very one-sided and incomplete. Like we’re only getting a part of the whole story.
Like a lot of warframe lore, it's either fragmented, one sided or left to our imagination
Don't think it is the darker, the tenno and umbra backgrounds sounds heavier. But it is good worldbuilding indeed.
I’d be interested to watch that
The Tennos all have names linked to ancient mythology like Valkry she has a awesome story,the Kullervo story was awesome makes you more connected to the characters
Very curious backstory, because we're certainly not getting it from a reliable narrator.
Warframe version of Pandora's Box
Does Stalker is also one of those Proto-Warframe cause he definitely have his own free will?
I think stalker is something very different.. sounds more like some transfered their consciousness into a frame... like in the titania quest with the archemedian that put herself in the silver growth
Stalker is VERY different, he was simply a Dax soilder and he transferenced into a warframe, which drove him mad and mixed with his want and urge for revenge it gave him one goal for the rest of time. To kill the Tenno for the slaughter of the Orokin.
thx for explaining ^^@@THERATSANDTHERATS
So is there a distinct difference between Umbra and Proto-frames?
Yea, umbra was created during the end of the war, sometime before the Sentient attack on the Lua's Reservoirs, as the creation of Umbra was a punishment on Dax for discovering the treason of Ballas on his own kind by telling the location of the Tenno
@@Okabe_Rintaro thats HORRIBLY incorrect, Umbra existed AFTER proto frames because Umbra had a transference bolt in him but kept his free will because Ballas was torturing him
The Proto frames were effectively flesh golems with no real way to control them unless they were either loyal or effectively brain dead, and essentially psychosis was the usual outcome creating things like the Proto Rhino who was literally eating people like a wild beast.
Also Umbra is called Umbra because of his containment on the moon or because thats just where he was kept for all eternity to keep reliving the same horrible memory over and over and over, its also related to the Tenno's own resting grounds because Lua is where the tenno also rested in their transference pods after the massacaring of the Orokin, to try and forget the painful memories of war and violence, something Umbra is also trying to forget, something we, who have moved past their trauma and pain, can now help Umbra do the same and be better.
So this is my only question and maybe I just wasn’t paying close enough attention in the beginning, but did Ballas set this whole thing in motion essentially entrapping kullveros or was this something he did of his own volition and then backed himself into a corner digging a deeper hole of his own sins? Cause if Ballas set him up then kullveros’ cause was just, but otherwise it’s just a tragedy.
The dark souls frame
I love this😍
Yo why does kullvero go kinda hard?
0:42 do it
Warframe is an online f2p version of dark souls for lore I swear.
Every single negative thing happening in Warframe was caused by Ballas.
Put me in for 20 on Mythical Potato.
intrested intrested
Since this is all being told by ballas, IMO this is all bs and Kullervo is innocent. Maybe 1 or 2 crimes might be committed by him after getting captured and finding out that ballas got rid of his mother but the rest. I don't buy it.
Pov you have a finnish warframe😂😂
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My headcannon is that Kullervo is an Ordan Karris turned Warframe rather than Cephalon.
With no operator to tie a guilty Beast of Bones to, Ballas turned him into a warframe instead as a form of attonement for his crimes.
As a Cephalon, Ordan Karris was torn apart from who he once was; and Kullervo as we see, is also fragmented.
Id love that and it would be cool, but ordan karris didn't turn on the orokin until the very end, there was no espionage, treason, or flight from custody.
@@TacticalPotato that we know of! Superb video and I for one would love some mythology summary or parallels, like Wukong's depiction for example.
6:09 Thank You Kullervo.
he was once a slave.....and it black and field....