The professor was actually giving very crucial suggestions. But unfortunately the boss didn't hear that. Your higher ranks does not mean that your opinion will be right always.
With such an arrogant moderator - he knows it all - the participants were continuously humiliated! If the moderator is so knowledgeable, why have this session in the first place?
@@RaguRaghupathi exactly that's what I was thinking that how he is the conducting this program he is so proud of being A GC teacher and he saying that we did This we did that we r doing that Kamal hy
Disappointing. The title of the session is catchy but unfortunately the entire discussion is irrelevant and futile. Besides, why invite panelists if the host already knows everything about the subject matter.
Absolutely Right,I do agree that our education system and degrees are dead rubber,no skill set development,not relevent to the job market needs.Many degrees are irrelevant to the job market.Faculty and curriculum is old schooled.That is why the world don't recognize our degrees and universities.
This arrogant behavior of the moderator is a good picture of what is wrong with the system. These old souls, being insecure themselves, in big offices, thinks that they know everything and they don’t want to let other people solve anything. This is typical Pakistani Sarkari Afsar behavior, they can destroy whole departments or sometimes generations instead of listening to others.
You guys talked in English. I am writing in English. Our 95 percent population doesn't understand English. This summarizes our educational system. Education should be in the mother tongue.
السلام عليكم۔ میں نے مکالمہ مکمل سنا ہے ۔27 منٹ 27 سیکنڈ کا مکالمہ تھا جس کو 54 منٹ 55 سیکنڈ پیش کیا۔ اسی طرح وقت ضائع ہوتا ہے۔ جب بات بنیاد ی تعلیمی نقائص کی بات ہے تو اردو یا انگریزی بات ایک زبان میں کرنی چاہیے۔ ایسا نہیں پاکستانیوں کو انگریزی نہیں آتی سن بول اور لکھ سکتے ہیں۔یہ مسئلہ قومی ہے اردو میں ہی ہونا چاہئے ناکہ عالمی۔ میں انگریزی سے اختلاف نہیں کرتا وہ ایک زبان ہے بس۔
The problem is not with the curriculum and something else . Only one thing is that monopoly of one institution on whole system. Last 70 years, we only taught students to glorify national anthem in universities. Students only got in universities as they supposed to get. Secondly, authoritarian approach at teaching level is one of the soul factors that led the nations at this level. Critical thinking is discouraged.
This program was held and recorded almost an year ago at Alhmra art council, I attended it and founded the VC very rude and humiliating and gender biased during entire program he continued humiliating Miss Aqsa repeatedly and the students who dared to ask the questions.
No doubt this is an intellectual session and we need more but agr mn audience mn baitha hta tu kbhi question na krta q k VC sahib ka attitude kafi zada arrogant ha ksi hadh tk humiliating behavior ha, as a teacher i don’t think so such a behavior is acceptable. Contradiction between words and vision.
the old guy conducting this panel is very arrogant also he thinks that speaking in fake accent will make him sound smarter unless you get rid of such arrogant people, your country cannot progress
I was about to write the same and I don’t have to write the same. His fake accent is very irritating. I work in. America and this accent totally puts me off
GLOBAL INNOVATION INDEX 2024 RAnking (INDIAN Subcontinent) INDIA -39 th (world ) SRILANKA-89 th PAKISTAN -92 th NEPAL -104th BANGLADESH -114th India jumped 42 steps ranks from 82 in 2015 to 39 in 2024
Addressing to the second question posed by the moderator Mr. Qasim Kasuri used some of the fancy words which are used in routine by people of same sectir as his, but the irony is even though creativity and critical thinking is practiced in the classrooms of private sector, these are most of the time oral activities. Students are given a lot of writing work afterwards as homework!!!
I believe the only one reason for teaching for sorry Infront of students is that they see their students bare handed even investing 4years for Future career,if the students get opportunity I believe they can perform well even with limited knowledge or skills. the game is Only of opportunities for implementation of our knowledge..
Quality education is a basic right of all learners from various backgrounds from age 5 to higher education and responsibilities of techers to provide quality education to all learners.
The moderator was not aware of his role and played as Judge or a decision maker which destroyed the very purpose of an "OPEN" discussion. He used the penalists only to present his fixed views rudely and crudely.
Respected Penalist, First 40- 50 years education system produces ( roughly) 80 % for local needs and 20% for international market. Now only top 10 - 20 institutions are producing 100% for international market. Rest institutions are producing for routine clerical jobs. Those who are going to international market have become Slaves ( More Mental,some financially). Is anyone interested to Educate masses in Pakistan. Conciously total infrastructure has been destroyed ( Peelay Schools/ Colleges).
Sir, you are right about AI's dominance but even after billions of years, the AI can not replace doctors because they can't understand the emotions well . They may do best in others but not in mental health sector.
Here is my question ❓ Apny basis ko development counties ky educational basis Sy kese compete karengy Ager app Yahan ky educational system ko direct jaky higher level merge ker dengy tu oski basis kese hasli hogi Ye Jo Gap ha oski fulfilment kese hogi' Asan lafzon me samjha dun Yaha ka bacha radio nhi bana Sakta osky oper research ki zarorat ha tu direct app osko iphone kese banana sikhaengy ye Jo bech me gap ha wo kese fill Hoga kia hum dunya Sy hamesha 50 Saal pichy hi rahengy
Issue yeh hy k yeh former VC khud student ko categorise krta th dressing ki bases py, inhn criticise krny walon ka future khrab krta th by expelling them…
Lady professor was competent and had valid arguments. The so called moderator was very rude and arrogant. Also disrespectful towards audience and female professor
I think when they say that curriculum is not important or less important, it is their narrow view of curriculum. And even if we have problems with curriculum implementer (teachers) then i believe we need to make sound teacher training curriculum for pre-service and in-service teachers. In addition, when the Kasuri sahb gave example of Finnish Curriculum, the one of the most important parts of the Finnish Curriculum is bridging gap between the theory and practice which we lack in Pakistan. Simply, curriculum should not be underrated.
The educational system which is nowhere in the world.. such a shame that even sfter 70 plus years there is no high budget allocation.planning, vision,for the youth..
Such an arrogant host! His attitude towards the audience and the panelists is unbearable. This type of arrogant people is the main hindrance in the ways of success in education. All the people present in the session should have bycott the host during the session.
Please leave Iqbal Sb for the future of Pakistan.His ideology doesn't have room for free thinking rather a party against a secular way of life.Dr Ali is branding his institute in the name of Iqbal Sb.
pakistani education is a real problem. since in fsc we are reading mr chips novel for the last 50 years. It was introduced in 1970s, it is in english syllabus since then. i read it, my father, my old uncle, my college professor, my college dean, old people that were in 70s , stuck with us since then.
31:15 In this moment o got to know that in Pakistan there will be no reforms will come in future because we don't have exactly assets that we invest in it even our time 😆😆😆
Why debate on Quality Education when you have plenty of Madrassa that are imparting knowledge & skills to PakPunjabi youth…??? Now you have a state guest Dr Zahil Nalayak and u missed calling him for this moot to take his words of wisdom for upliftment education…!!!
I think the moderator is pretty biased when it comes to gender. He repeatedly disagreed with whatever Miss Aqsa said. I know differences of opinion shape our discourse but his particular disagreement is what put this whole conversation off. While reading comments, I'm glad other listeners noticed this too.
I met this guy but was highly disappointed due to his bad manners and arrogant behaviour. When such people will lead this discussion so we can well imagine that our future is safe or not????
The host's behavior was incredibly unprofessional and disappointing. If time was limited, there was no need to allow the audience to ask questions only to respond with frustration and hostility. It was disrespectful to see the host resort to abusive language when audience members simply wanted to engage in the discussion. Such conduct creates a negative atmosphere
Just to address the issue that Curriculum doesn't matter the thing that matters is Teacher Ability to deliver the lecture Things needed to be in mind Teacher didn't have complete independence what he/she think it's right for their students as they are bound with the curriculum. 2nd thing Teachers that's going to teach the student is definitely going to be from the Pakistan institute so how dare he that he will deliver anything extra if the approach they gain fron their teachers is the same of following the Curriculum. The Moderator is taking more time than penalist sound like a puppet who is defending Higher Authority in every possible manner
Who gave these panelists the right to talk about a very important subject? She in her yellow outfit could have been delivering missiles from the Hezbollah outpost in Lebanon-half English and half Urdu. Nobody offered her a glass of water. Just to calm her down.
Many friends in comment section are talking about the host's behavior but i think there is no rude behavior no arrogance from moderator, he was just disagreeing with logic and argument, and that is very good to see because in Pakistan we don't have this culture. More important, why are we observing behaviors, just focuse on ideas and arguments🙂
What a rubbish session where host is so rude and arrogant and guests are not well aware about the relevant topic. The actually problem in education system is the rude and arrogant behavior of teachers like this host who humiliate the students for asking questions . Secondly,we are artificial in speaking, lecturing and dealing like here everybody is trying to talk in English!!
Quran hadiths sabse best books hein. Sara knowledge isme hai. Allah ki books ke aagey insano ki books ki koi aukaat nahi. Ye earth ki life ek test hai aur test paas karke jannat jana hai. So ye education sab bakwas hai. Education ka Matlab Sirf aur Sirf Allah ki books padhna hai.
The old guy conducting this session is unreasonable and arrogant. He is using Philosophy of Iqbal who was a tout of British colonist. Also he was talking very rudely to the people who were asking genuine question. Eventually when we have this kind of old generation i am sure WE WILL NEVER HAVE EDUCATION with ANY FUTURE. ...
Such a pathetic way to discuss about educating plan and strategies nothing is here which become a source of gaining something.moreover host and that lady guest arrogant and impolite
The host is a living example of what is wrong with education system of Pakistan
The professor was actually giving very crucial suggestions. But unfortunately the boss didn't hear that. Your higher ranks does not mean that your opinion will be right always.
Well said Ma'am Aqsa, you explained the issues very effectively totally agreed with your profound thoughts
With such an arrogant moderator - he knows it all - the participants were continuously humiliated! If the moderator is so knowledgeable, why have this session in the first place?
@@RaguRaghupathi I completely agree with you. I was going to say the same thing.
@@RaguRaghupathi exactly that's what I was thinking that how he is the conducting this program he is so proud of being A GC teacher and he saying that we did This we did that we r doing that Kamal hy
@@RaguRaghupathi you nailed it. This guy is so arrogantly dumb
Disappointing. The title of the session is catchy but unfortunately the entire discussion is irrelevant and futile. Besides, why invite panelists if the host already knows everything about the subject matter.
A weak foundation cannot support a tall structure , foundations are key to the future .
I am very disappointed to say that the moderator is very biased towards his university. Moreover, the behaviour of the moderator is very arrogant.
Absolutely Right,I do agree that our education system and degrees are dead rubber,no skill set development,not relevent to the job market needs.Many degrees are irrelevant to the job market.Faculty and curriculum is old schooled.That is why the world don't recognize our degrees and universities.
This arrogant behavior of the moderator is a good picture of what is wrong with the system. These old souls, being insecure themselves, in big offices, thinks that they know everything and they don’t want to let other people solve anything. This is typical Pakistani Sarkari Afsar behavior, they can destroy whole departments or sometimes generations instead of listening to others.
You guys talked in English. I am writing in English. Our 95 percent population doesn't understand English. This summarizes our educational system.
Education should be in the mother tongue.
Than thus old guy and all like him will become illiterate.
Agree
As soon as the VC started talking about Dr Allama Iqbal in the traditional way.. Mujahy samjh aa gayee kaybyeh riwayaati discussion hai..
السلام عليكم۔ میں نے مکالمہ مکمل سنا ہے ۔27 منٹ 27 سیکنڈ کا مکالمہ تھا جس کو 54 منٹ 55 سیکنڈ پیش کیا۔ اسی طرح وقت ضائع ہوتا ہے۔ جب بات بنیاد ی تعلیمی نقائص کی بات ہے تو اردو یا انگریزی بات ایک زبان میں کرنی چاہیے۔ ایسا نہیں پاکستانیوں کو انگریزی نہیں آتی سن بول اور لکھ سکتے ہیں۔یہ مسئلہ قومی ہے اردو میں ہی ہونا چاہئے ناکہ عالمی۔ میں انگریزی سے اختلاف نہیں کرتا وہ ایک زبان ہے بس۔
Urdu is Indian language, it should be in Sindhi
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She raised very basic points which are absolutely exist,,,
The problem is not with the curriculum and something else . Only one thing is that monopoly of one institution on whole system. Last 70 years, we only taught students to glorify national anthem in universities. Students only got in universities as they supposed to get. Secondly, authoritarian approach at teaching level is one of the soul factors that led the nations at this level. Critical thinking is discouraged.
This program was held and recorded almost an year ago at Alhmra art council, I attended it and founded the VC very rude and humiliating and gender biased during entire program he continued humiliating Miss Aqsa repeatedly and the students who dared to ask the questions.
Yeah such a jahil host
No, are you talking about VC? He is a very learned person, and even if he did criticize someone, he rightly did so.
@@asianazar8022 don't agree with u, plz
I strongly disagree that curriculum does not matter. Both the curriculum and the way it is taught are equally important.
Bravo! Education with nu future!
Shikayat hey mujeh ya rab khudawandanay Maktub se. Sabaq derahey hen soft concepts tifilay makab men.
Nu Demand driven skills.
Scalability.
School.going age in Finland is 7 years whereas ours r pushed at 2.5 years
Only 22 to 25 % age go to higher education.......
The host of the seminar, vc, is very arrogant.
What a discussion, hats off sir ❤️
Excellent
No doubt this is an intellectual session and we need more but agr mn audience mn baitha hta tu kbhi question na krta q k VC sahib ka attitude kafi zada arrogant ha ksi hadh tk humiliating behavior ha, as a teacher i don’t think so such a behavior is acceptable. Contradiction between words and vision.
the old guy conducting this panel is very arrogant
also he thinks that speaking in fake accent will make him sound smarter
unless you get rid of such arrogant people, your country cannot progress
I was about to write the same and I don’t have to write the same. His fake accent is very irritating. I work in. America and this accent totally puts me off
@@TeslaHugestFan 👍
Agreed
@@faisalshahzad9314 Yeah, he was disrespecting the woman sitting on the stage again and again
it is unacceptable
1 hote Bina aaknh ke andhe or
1 hote hi Pakistan 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Informative channel 😊
32:41 respectable movement 😊
Agreed 💯 with ur opinions
GLOBAL INNOVATION INDEX 2024 RAnking (INDIAN Subcontinent)
INDIA -39 th (world )
SRILANKA-89 th
PAKISTAN -92 th
NEPAL -104th
BANGLADESH -114th
India jumped 42 steps ranks from 82 in 2015 to 39 in 2024
Addressing to the second question posed by the moderator Mr. Qasim Kasuri used some of the fancy words which are used in routine by people of same sectir as his, but the irony is even though creativity and critical thinking is practiced in the classrooms of private sector, these are most of the time oral activities. Students are given a lot of writing work afterwards as homework!!!
I believe the only one reason for teaching for sorry Infront of students is that they see their students bare handed even investing 4years for Future career,if the students get opportunity I believe they can perform well even with limited knowledge or skills. the game is Only of opportunities for implementation of our knowledge..
Punjab School Privatization Py Bhi bat honi chiye
طبقاتی نظام تعلیم
بھی ایک بہت بڑا مسئلہ ہے ۔
آپ کو اس پر بات کرنی چاہیے ۔
Great ❤❤❤
Quality education is a basic right of all learners from various backgrounds from age 5 to higher education and responsibilities of techers to provide quality education to all learners.
With this ignorantly arrogant and arrogantly ignorant VC of GC, expect descend from mediocrity to incompetence.
The moderator was not aware of his role and played as Judge or a decision maker which destroyed the very purpose of an "OPEN" discussion. He used the penalists only to present his fixed views rudely and crudely.
Respected Penalist, First 40- 50 years education system produces ( roughly) 80 % for local needs and 20% for international market. Now only top 10 - 20 institutions are producing 100% for international market. Rest institutions are producing for routine clerical jobs. Those who are going to international market have become Slaves ( More Mental,some financially). Is anyone interested to Educate masses in Pakistan. Conciously total infrastructure has been destroyed ( Peelay Schools/ Colleges).
Sir, you are right about AI's dominance but even after billions of years, the AI can not replace doctors because they can't understand the emotions well . They may do best in others but not in mental health sector.
Here is my question ❓
Apny basis ko development counties ky educational basis Sy kese compete karengy
Ager app Yahan ky educational system ko direct jaky higher level merge ker dengy tu oski basis kese hasli hogi
Ye Jo Gap ha oski fulfilment kese hogi'
Asan lafzon me samjha dun Yaha ka bacha radio nhi bana Sakta osky oper research ki zarorat ha tu direct app osko iphone kese banana sikhaengy ye Jo bech me gap ha wo kese fill Hoga kia hum dunya Sy hamesha 50 Saal pichy hi rahengy
Nice Answered by VC GC to lady professor.
Issue yeh hy k yeh former VC khud student ko categorise krta th dressing ki bases py, inhn criticise krny walon ka future khrab krta th by expelling them…
Lady professor was competent and had valid arguments. The so called moderator was very rude and arrogant. Also disrespectful towards audience and female professor
nice couplet of iqbal
I think when they say that curriculum is not important or less important, it is their narrow view of curriculum. And even if we have problems with curriculum implementer (teachers) then i believe we need to make sound teacher training curriculum for pre-service and in-service teachers. In addition, when the Kasuri sahb gave example of Finnish Curriculum, the one of the most important parts of the Finnish Curriculum is bridging gap between the theory and practice which we lack in Pakistan. Simply, curriculum should not be underrated.
The educational system which is nowhere in the world.. such a shame that even sfter 70 plus years there is no high budget allocation.planning, vision,for the youth..
If the behaviour of VCs is kept this way. We will never be able to progress .
Rude moderator, such a pity that he is the VC of a premier university.
Such an arrogant host! His attitude towards the audience and the panelists is unbearable. This type of arrogant people is the main hindrance in the ways of success in education. All the people present in the session should have bycott the host during the session.
Mujhe ye bataein educated hazrat k jolog English MN nahi parhe hoe wo apki discussion kese samjhein
Please leave Iqbal Sb for the future of Pakistan.His ideology doesn't have room for free thinking rather a party against a secular way of life.Dr Ali is branding his institute in the name of Iqbal Sb.
For sure, GC VC doesn't know the meaning of curriculum and that's why he mentioned skills separate from Content Teaching. Keep it up.
Teacher hun or teaching 8 years ki lakin jis curriculum ko dekha or system to regulate sab mein aik link hote he nehi
۔جب نشان حیدرٹیچرکو نہیں مل سکتا تو اگلے 76 سال بھی تعلیمی نظام بہترنہیں ہوسکتا۔
pakistani education is a real problem. since in fsc we are reading mr chips novel for the last 50 years. It was introduced in 1970s, it is in english syllabus since then. i read it, my father, my old uncle, my college professor, my college dean, old people that were in 70s , stuck with us since then.
31:15 In this moment o got to know that in Pakistan there will be no reforms will come in future because we don't have exactly assets that we invest in it even our time 😆😆😆
Baloch not balochi sir plz say correctly
Right Dear noted. Will correct it
Why debate on Quality Education when you have plenty of Madrassa that are imparting knowledge & skills to PakPunjabi youth…??? Now you have a state guest Dr Zahil Nalayak and u missed calling him for this moot to take his words of wisdom for upliftment education…!!!
Sir
I think you are going to miss language problems,we didn't decide yet that either our national language is Urdu or English.
Student ki demand society ki jo requirements donu he curriculum mein nehi
what an outdated and useless way of discussion. that HOST is living in an alternate reality.
Insy behtr mein bol skta hun issue py
G
Issue ha e itna purana or comman
Sanam Saeed after barzakh is here
The dude or the host is hijacking
The moderator seems pretty much knowledgeable. He single handedly could have done all. Lol!
Let's learn to respect others' opinions Mr VC.
He is not vc of GCU anymore dont write VC with his name
Pakistan zindabad thx❤❤❤😊😊
Kon sa muslman is Dunia ko kuch
Dia mantal cash 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I think the moderator is pretty biased when it comes to gender. He repeatedly disagreed with whatever Miss Aqsa said. I know differences of opinion shape our discourse but his particular disagreement is what put this whole conversation off.
While reading comments, I'm glad other listeners noticed this too.
I met this guy but was highly disappointed due to his bad manners and arrogant behaviour. When such people will lead this discussion so we can well imagine that our future is safe or not????
اب ماضی کو ہی یاد کر کے زندہ رہو۔موجودہ پاکستان میں تعلیم کا ماحول نہیں ہے۔نام کی یونیورسٹیاں ہیں اور برائے نام پروفیسرز۔
The host's behavior was incredibly unprofessional and disappointing. If time was limited, there was no need to allow the audience to ask questions only to respond with frustration and hostility. It was disrespectful to see the host resort to abusive language when audience members simply wanted to engage in the discussion. Such conduct creates a negative atmosphere
Teachers must plan to support learning for 6 to 8 hours for active learning. And students must spend 6 to 8 hours in active learning.
The Day You Decided To Invite Dr Zakir Naik.
You Set Your Priorities Clear.
Where Your Country Has To Align / Head.
Just to address the issue that Curriculum doesn't matter the thing that matters is Teacher Ability to deliver the lecture
Things needed to be in mind
Teacher didn't have complete independence what he/she think it's right for their students as they are bound with the curriculum. 2nd thing Teachers that's going to teach the student is definitely going to be from the Pakistan institute so how dare he that he will deliver anything extra if the approach they gain fron their teachers is the same of following the Curriculum.
The Moderator is taking more time than penalist sound like a puppet who is defending Higher Authority in every possible manner
In any level of education anovation, experiments, hidden tellent, are not allowed to show
No substantial arguments in discussion and vague solutions that even a high school student can suggest - time wasted indeed.
Who gave these panelists the right to talk about a very important subject? She in her yellow outfit could have been delivering missiles from the Hezbollah outpost in Lebanon-half English and half Urdu. Nobody offered her a glass of water. Just to calm her down.
Many friends in comment section are talking about the host's behavior but i think there is no rude behavior no arrogance from moderator, he was just disagreeing with logic and argument, and that is very good to see because in Pakistan we don't have this culture.
More important, why are we observing behaviors, just focuse on ideas and arguments🙂
well said
What a rubbish session where host is so rude and arrogant and guests are not well aware about the relevant topic.
The actually problem in education system is the rude and arrogant behavior of teachers like this host who humiliate the students for asking questions . Secondly,we are artificial in speaking, lecturing and dealing like here everybody is trying to talk in English!!
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Numbers game or first or second positions or buht kuch
Hmm.so future does not need education system of pakistan..🤔
السلام علیکم ورحمة الله
Pride and prejudice of the anchor will never allow you to reach a viable solution.
Quran hadiths sabse best books hein. Sara knowledge isme hai. Allah ki books ke aagey insano ki books ki koi aukaat nahi. Ye earth ki life ek test hai aur test paas karke jannat jana hai. So ye education sab bakwas hai. Education ka Matlab Sirf aur Sirf Allah ki books padhna hai.
As you GC university chancellor you should ashamed because you are responsible for this disaster
How rude is this moderator!
I hate this man, GCUL ka bera garq kia is ny
The old guy conducting this session is unreasonable and arrogant. He is using Philosophy of Iqbal who was a tout of British colonist. Also he was talking very rudely to the people who were asking genuine question.
Eventually when we have this kind of old generation i am sure WE WILL NEVER HAVE EDUCATION with ANY FUTURE. ...
Such a pathetic way to discuss about educating plan and strategies nothing is here which become a source of gaining something.moreover host and that lady guest arrogant and impolite
Islam lackhuar Dena janta bus🙏🙏🙏🙏
ap jasy moderator education system pa booj hy
qasm isy sun k jahil rehna hi bhtr lag rha h
Kasuri tu ny education system bera gharak kya
Funny people
Total BAKWAS
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Zakir Naik's public gatherings will lead to Pakistan being a highly educated nation. Please keep him for some more time.
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@@anveshpadhy6469 I think so😁😁😁