I always thought Sea Mauvile *was* the abandoned ship, but seeing the overhead view of it, it becomes clear that its not a ship at all. Kinda weird how they just straight-up replaced the Abandoned Ship, but it's cool how dense they made the lore for it in exchange.
I don't, it's too much lore and it's not particularly interesting, they just abandoned some project at sea. The remakes really defanged Hoenn, I hate that people prefer them
I’m pretty sure there was no accident. I remember an NPC saying the ship was deliberately sunk to create an artificial reef for Pokémon. It’s also named the S.S. Cactus, according to another NPC. The reason so many holes exist is probably due to explosives being used to crack the hull. But yes, this was one of the coolest places as a kid. I always loved being an urban explorer on a partially sunken ship
“When i was younger I thought these rusted holes were human shaped from people jumping off of higher levels” ME TOO LOL. All my friends thought i was insane but that was the morbid thought i had lmao
To me they looked like sideways cactuses when I was a kid: the blob shape running from the top left to the bottom right of the tile was the body, and the smaller nubs on the upper right and lower left corner were its “arms”
Man, I was a kid for 9/11, and even I didn't interpret all the identical broken deck tiles as Looney Toons-style holes punched in the ground by hopeless passengers lol. I mean I kinda see it, but like, ain't no way everyone fell the exact same way, even in a sprite-based Pokemon game where we're meant to interpret what we're shown haha. I do really like that the suspension of disbelief works at such variable levels with this art style, tho. It's up to us to fill in the explanations, to decide whether what we're looking at _really_ looks that way, or whether we're meant to interpret it ourselves considering the limitations of GBA assets / the devs' time
Another place I loved in Hoenn was Shoal Cave. How it is really far out, almost at the border of Hoenn. How it obviously changes depending on the water level. And how, despite it being a dark damp cave, still feels somehow homey
The creepiest part of Shoal Cave for me was accessing the bottom level where the ice Pokémon are at since it defies all logic how that area can be where it is without the Pokémon inside drowning at high tide, just sayin’.
I missed out on this area as a kid. Not because I didn’t know the about the ship, but because on the playground a kid at school wanted to swap his Gorebyss with a Huntail to fill his Pokédex, but I didn’t have either Clamperl item yet, so he just took my GBA and cleared the ship by the end of recess and did the trade himself…
Never really found the ship spooky. Instead what terrified me was the Regi Chamber. The braille walls with that unnerving ost made the place look so alien and weird it reminded me of the Alph Ruins.
I always just assumed there was no disaster here- an NPC in Slateport says that ships that become too old to sail get deliberately sunk into the ocean to become homes for water pokemon. I assumed that this was the case here.
@@GatorEX Honestly that's what I want to think. The Let's Go games could've at least hinted at what region the ship was going to (might've been Alola cause Mina apparently missed her ship or something, I forget)
The ship's anime equivalent, the St. Anne, sank not long after leaving Vermilion, so you could be right. I used to wonder if the Abandoned Ship could be the S.S. Anne, but that doesn't really work because the events of Gen 1 and Gen 3 are meant to happen at the same time.
The background music for the wreck is beautiful. It sounds desolate and empty initially, before becoming cheerful and upbeat, almost optimistic even. It's strangely tranquil. You can tell the tragedy here happened a long time ago, and that people have moved on. That's also exemplified by the people found in the wreck; explorers, children, couples on a dare... not a single mourner is among them. What was once a site of tragedy has become a playground or exhibit for explorers. Life has found a way to move on; it's stilla wreck, there is still some sadness in the music, but nature has cleaned that place as well as it could.
This was one my favorite areas to explore in Gen 3 too. Such slightly unnerving music, along with some slight dread really did make this place interesting to explore. And hey, who don't enjoy that free Spirittomb in the remake?
While I like Sea Mauville, I do kind of wonder what the ship would look like in a remake, especially if it got expanded. Should’ve mentioned it, but finding a Luxury Ball in one of the rooms really gets me thinking about the passengers… 🤔
Many people say Gen 5 was peak Pokemon and I agree with them. But my happiest memories came from Pokemon Emerald. The Hoenn Region is overflowing with positive emotions, set-pieces and locations. And even when it tackled serious or depressing matters, the feeling of happiness never left me as a person. The remakes were glorious too, but I have to admit when things got sad in them, they actually took the positivity away briefly. I honestly have to say that Pokemon Emerald was a near flawless game.
A ship like this would have been perfect for gen 7. They literally introduced a Pokémon made out of ship parts and seaweed. (I got a shiny one recently) I hope we get a shipwreck in SV dlc or gen 10.
This did spook me a bit but what literally sent shivers down my spine was the ghost girl from Black and White 1+2 (especially the one in 2 with the abandoned house). I hope you cover that as we step in to the month of horrors. Great video Gator.
@@KosmoZer0That wasn't scary though. You Gen 5 fans I swear. Old Chateau still scarier, though Unown frequency is still the scariest thing in Pokemon, next to maybe the Drought theme
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Different strokes for different folks, it's bad to assume I'm only a Gen 5 fan. I played every generation of Pokémon and I like all of them in one way or another that said, I actually had the most memories with Gen 3 Pokémon Emerald.
The song is very uncanny. Specially because it's reused on Eon Island, Faraway Island, and the other ones where the other legendaries appear and since I first played Emerald on an emulator, I used codes to enter there and being a kid I didn't know how to leave said islands by deactivating the codes until I reloaded the savestate. Those islands felt like forbidden places as I was aware there was no normal way of reaching them, and they all had this soundtrack playing, making it all the more mysterious and creepy. No NPC's there, just the puzzles and the legendaries.
@@mewziikal8331please don’t bring that negativity here let’s keep it positive Also ur wrong I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things? Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised Was friendship magic? Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures? Ok then it’s a good game Those are what’s important to Pokémon As the og theme said Pokémon is about Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through you teach me and I teach you” That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end Then that’s a strong enough ending for me Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that Performance graphics those things never Mattered You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient Assuming we get more open world games NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic Probably turned it upside down And before u say just delay the game They can’t delay the game The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
Instead of trainer there They should make it place for Ghost pokemon instead Would be more fitting as abandoned ship than become trainers secret gathering place 😅
There's something eerie about the Abandoned Ship being replaced by Sea Mauville in the remake. It's as though the spot itself is cursed, and whatever is in that place is doomed to be wrecked. Almost like a Pokemon equivalence to the Bermuda Triangle.
I feel like these explorations were something the 3D Pokémon games have outright dropped, and I’m not even sure why. There was always that thrill you got when you found a neat location you either didn’t notice before or wanted to go back to, and entered to kill time and lurk about. I’ll never forget my absolutely shock when I discovered the Hidden Braille cave, spent time figuring it out, and then came across the Regis, then only to later on find the ship, and later the tower where Rayquaza lies (mind you, this was in Sapphire, long before we had much access to the internet outside of the Libraries or school). Even the Old Chateau was fascinating to me, as much as I HATED going in there (it’s by far the scariest place in any Pokémon game. I just never liked going in there).
I had Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon Sapphire when I was a kid. When I first played Sapphire, I thought the abandoned ship was the same same one from the FireRed and counterpart copies, because I remember they said they’d be going to a far off region.
Was Abandon Ship the only appearance of a Marshtomp in the 4Kids dub? Iirc it was voiced by the lady who voiced Mudkip (and Cacnea), but I don't think she was credited for the role. She also provided vocals for Yu-Gi-Oh's We'll Be There song.
i heard that it was scuttled to make a habitat for wild pokemon.. but it also looks like something from a metal gear game. the final battle with big boss in zanzibar land mixed with the frigate that ships arsenal gear.
Could this ship be SS.Anne from the Kanto region? Don't forget that it was confirmed long ago that the Gen 3 games and the Gen 1 remakes take place at the same time.
They need to bring back these sprite-based games. Like, launch them aside the 3D games so we can get two perspectives of the same region. Would be really cool.
Unlikely, Pokemon is trying to reach the biggest audience possible. A sprite based game would make older fans and retro gamers happy, but not the current generation of kids or teens or many casual gamers. I would love to see an actually graphically pleasing 3D game for once. The switch games are just really badly executed in terms of graphics and environments
I think the reason they removed the abandoned ship is because around the time ORAS were being made the costa concordia disaster happened. I think they didn't want to risk media attention from from ignorant people.
Maybe, but it could also be that Masuda is obsessed with removing any darker elements from the Pokemon world, and usually I don't take the side of the weirdo edgelords that want M-rated Pokemon, but he seems hellbent on making the games as saccharine as possible
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 >Maybe, but it could also be that Masuda is obsessed with removing any darker elements from the Pokemon world Better not look at many of the Pokedex entries or the obligatory ghost encounters.
@@D8W2P4 The ghost encounters got a little too overexplained past Gen 4. Gen 6 definitely had the best one in general. There's still dark stuff in the games and the PokeDex entries can get dark but the world itself doesn't feel as mean and scary as it used to I think. Mainly my beef was with ORAS here, they made Aqua/Magma into a bunch of goofy idiots too
I'm playing Ruby at the moment and one of the tuber kids spotted me and battled me through a wall, I think they're definitely implying at least some of the people on the ship are ghosts
I cannot wait for a deep dive (no pun intended but accepted just the same) on Sea Mauville because that place is CREEPY. I also feel like whatever bizarre organization was behind it had to be the group that Archie and Maxie were in before they split. And oh god I feel so awful for Cozmo, which is something I never thought I would!
It wasn't creepy though? They just abandoned the project because it didn't turn out very successful, the only eerie thing was that Spiritomb was watching them but it's not a creepy Pokemon
@@BJGvideosNah just a satire of corrupt scummy businesses, there's no religious language, just talks about unions being evil or not getting overtime pay.
@@BJGvideos Ever worked at Amazon? Tbf I just dislike this remake in general, but I really wasn't a fan of this change in particular, feels like they wanted to overexplain something that should've been mysterious and made it kinda lamer as a result. A ship crashing that was turned into a nature reserve instead of being scavenged is already cool enough, I don't see why they felt the need to add more story to it. They also tried to connect it to New Mauville but that was always one of the stupidest story elements from the original games, they should've just made it Mauville's Power Plant or something. It doesn't exactly look like a city. That place only exists so you can get an extra TM from Watson and so you can catch Magnemite and Voltorb, that could've just been available on the same Route you get Plusle/Minun and Electrike on. Not the hugest fan of how they changed Mauville either.
ORAS is one of my favourite games, but I was always a little disappointed that they replaced the Abandoned Ship with Sea Mauville. The idea of exploring a shipwreck is way more exciting to me and I would have loved to see that in 3D.
Yup, one of the many changes I dislike about ORAS. They just made it lame, like they felt the need to explain sunken ship wrecks as if those don't exist IRL. And they connected it to the New Mauville lore when that was always a weird half-baked idea. Ew you actually like ORAS?
@@silentopinion Some other people think it was because of the Costa Concordia disaster and I can believe that because Game Freak has been paranoid about accidentally causing controversy since the 90s, but they also were really trying to downplay how dark the games are. Despite the backstory of Sea Mauville involving Pokemon experimentation it feels more sanitized over a sunken ship whose crew and passengers were presumably all killed. And the backstory literally being spelled out for you in letters and notes as well as the comically evil rules workers have to follow really kills any eerie atmosphere. The remakes have this problem in general where they really defanged Hoenn that was already a pretty tame region in comparison to Kanto and Johto, see how they made Aqua and Magma a bunch of silly buffoons and turned Tabitha into a nerd and Courtney into some weird yandere fetish, Magma in general got the worst of it. Aqua didn't fare much better with how Archie's just some dumb himbo that wants to wrestle a fish and Matt is some oaf, only Shelley stayed somewhat the same. It's weird people love ORAS but hate SWSH and ScVi for making the evil teams wimpy when ORAS really ruined Hoenn's atmosphere and made everything too goofy, they also did it to the rivals and some Gym Leaders.
Looking forward to the Sea Mauville video! I miss going for deep dives in the pokemon games. I wish they had that in modern pokemon. Why they removed that feature, I'll never know. I love exploring the world of pokemon. It's interesting to see the under water habitats of pokemon, and to see what kind of pokemon live in what area. I wish they'd bring back diving in pokemon. If they're going to bring back flying in the DLC, they can bring back diving as well. Maybe if we're lucky they'll bring it back in the future. One can only hope!
SuMo had cool little things like this, it's only the last two gens that removed them but PLA and even SwSh to some degree had mysterious areas like the Gigantamax tree or the church
I never saw it as terrifying at all, mostly because of it filled with other trainers treating it as a tourist spot. If it was empty then it would be a different story.
I never found it creepy. I always thought it was the S.S. Anne after some accident it had that was never explained to me. At least that's what I thought as a kid.
On the oldest generation you need to explorer to get the scanner and trade for rare items On new generation all npc give you items and you need to pay to get all Pokémon
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I always thought Sea Mauvile *was* the abandoned ship, but seeing the overhead view of it, it becomes clear that its not a ship at all. Kinda weird how they just straight-up replaced the Abandoned Ship, but it's cool how dense they made the lore for it in exchange.
Oh yeah, I think that’s a good trade-off.
I don't, it's too much lore and it's not particularly interesting, they just abandoned some project at sea. The remakes really defanged Hoenn, I hate that people prefer them
I noticed you said 'replaced' instead of 'abandoned' lol
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Nice hater mindset
@@gzs6885 I never wanted Gen 3 remade to begin with and the worst time to be a fan was during all that "Hoenn confirmed" bullshit
Probably the most intriguing places in Hoenn. The lack of info really gets your imagination going wondering how many perished.
Exactly. The atmosphere is great.
And how. In the world of Pokémon, there are plenty of ways to die. Even at sea.
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I’m pretty sure there was no accident. I remember an NPC saying the ship was deliberately sunk to create an artificial reef for Pokémon. It’s also named the S.S. Cactus, according to another NPC. The reason so many holes exist is probably due to explosives being used to crack the hull. But yes, this was one of the coolest places as a kid. I always loved being an urban explorer on a partially sunken ship
but the would they place furniture , keys in there if it was to sunk
@@OmPrakash-pc1ec it was probably the property of the passengers of the ship and when nobody came to pick it up they just sunk it
I ruined the 69 likesss.
@@MyNaymIsSnek1526 How _dare_
@@Cosmic_Espeon And that’s how to pisssss sssomeone off by liking their comment.
“When i was younger I thought these rusted holes were human shaped from people jumping off of higher levels”
ME TOO LOL. All my friends thought i was insane but that was the morbid thought i had lmao
Okay, I don’t feel so bad then 😅
I always thought they were Treecko. Lol
To me they looked like sideways cactuses when I was a kid: the blob shape running from the top left to the bottom right of the tile was the body, and the smaller nubs on the upper right and lower left corner were its “arms”
Man, I was a kid for 9/11, and even I didn't interpret all the identical broken deck tiles as Looney Toons-style holes punched in the ground by hopeless passengers lol. I mean I kinda see it, but like, ain't no way everyone fell the exact same way, even in a sprite-based Pokemon game where we're meant to interpret what we're shown haha.
I do really like that the suspension of disbelief works at such variable levels with this art style, tho. It's up to us to fill in the explanations, to decide whether what we're looking at _really_ looks that way, or whether we're meant to interpret it ourselves considering the limitations of GBA assets / the devs' time
Another place I loved in Hoenn was Shoal Cave. How it is really far out, almost at the border of Hoenn. How it obviously changes depending on the water level. And how, despite it being a dark damp cave, still feels somehow homey
I loved that place myself
same
The creepiest part of Shoal Cave for me was accessing the bottom level where the ice Pokémon are at since it defies all logic how that area can be where it is without the Pokémon inside drowning at high tide, just sayin’.
I missed out on this area as a kid. Not because I didn’t know the about the ship, but because on the playground a kid at school wanted to swap his Gorebyss with a Huntail to fill his Pokédex, but I didn’t have either Clamperl item yet, so he just took my GBA and cleared the ship by the end of recess and did the trade himself…
Let’s go beat him up for doing that ,
Relatable. I learned never to trust anyone else with your save file, especially in a 100+ hour game where you only get one
Never really found the ship spooky. Instead what terrified me was the Regi Chamber. The braille walls with that unnerving ost made the place look so alien and weird it reminded me of the Alph Ruins.
It's a bit eerie, only weird thing about the Regis for me was who made them, this was before Regigigas mind you
I always just assumed there was no disaster here- an NPC in Slateport says that ships that become too old to sail get deliberately sunk into the ocean to become homes for water pokemon. I assumed that this was the case here.
I'm far more curious what happened to the S.S. Anne, cause it's never seen or heard of again after Gen 1, I'm convinced the ship sunk
Well, that one’s anime counterpart sank, so honestly a good assumption 🤔
@@GatorEX Honestly that's what I want to think.
The Let's Go games could've at least hinted at what region the ship was going to (might've been Alola cause Mina apparently missed her ship or something, I forget)
The ship's anime equivalent, the St. Anne, sank not long after leaving Vermilion, so you could be right. I used to wonder if the Abandoned Ship could be the S.S. Anne, but that doesn't really work because the events of Gen 1 and Gen 3 are meant to happen at the same time.
Abandoned Ship isn’t the SS Anne; it’s called the SS Cactus, based on some stuff you find as you explore the ship.
The background music for the wreck is beautiful. It sounds desolate and empty initially, before becoming cheerful and upbeat, almost optimistic even. It's strangely tranquil.
You can tell the tragedy here happened a long time ago, and that people have moved on. That's also exemplified by the people found in the wreck; explorers, children, couples on a dare... not a single mourner is among them. What was once a site of tragedy has become a playground or exhibit for explorers. Life has found a way to move on; it's stilla wreck, there is still some sadness in the music, but nature has cleaned that place as well as it could.
Whenever I see pictures of shipwrecks, the music immediately plays in my head.
This was one my favorite areas to explore in Gen 3 too. Such slightly unnerving music, along with some slight dread really did make this place interesting to explore. And hey, who don't enjoy that free Spirittomb in the remake?
While I like Sea Mauville, I do kind of wonder what the ship would look like in a remake, especially if it got expanded. Should’ve mentioned it, but finding a Luxury Ball in one of the rooms really gets me thinking about the passengers… 🤔
@@GatorEX I remember that! Yeah, small details like that really makes you think about this stuff with the implications.
Many people say Gen 5 was peak Pokemon and I agree with them. But my happiest memories came from Pokemon Emerald. The Hoenn Region is overflowing with positive emotions, set-pieces and locations. And even when it tackled serious or depressing matters, the feeling of happiness never left me as a person. The remakes were glorious too, but I have to admit when things got sad in them, they actually took the positivity away briefly. I honestly have to say that Pokemon Emerald was a near flawless game.
We need more abandoned ships in Pokémon - looking forward to the Sea Mauville video!
I think it fits best in Hoenn, but I’d like to see another in the future.
Sea Mauville mid
Yeah would be cool to see something like that
One of the most sad and unique themes in all of Pokémon.
I always thought when I was young that it was the SS Anna from Kanto-Johto or something like that.
Oh man, that’d be even creepier, but it’s such a good idea.
Ill never forget that episode cause swampert is my favourite pokemon and im pretty sure this is its only major spotlight in the entire anime
A ship like this would have been perfect for gen 7. They literally introduced a Pokémon made out of ship parts and seaweed. (I got a shiny one recently) I hope we get a shipwreck in SV dlc or gen 10.
This did spook me a bit but what literally sent shivers down my spine was the ghost girl from Black and White 1+2 (especially the one in 2 with the abandoned house). I hope you cover that as we step in to the month of horrors. Great video Gator.
Oh yeah, I think the music especially in the Strange House of BW2 is really good.
How you got a Manaphy egg in your name?
@@TheLegendryZelda It's because I've been a member for GatorEX's channel for over a year I think
@@KosmoZer0That wasn't scary though. You Gen 5 fans I swear. Old Chateau still scarier, though Unown frequency is still the scariest thing in Pokemon, next to maybe the Drought theme
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Different strokes for different folks, it's bad to assume I'm only a Gen 5 fan. I played every generation of Pokémon and I like all of them in one way or another that said, I actually had the most memories with Gen 3 Pokémon Emerald.
I wish it had replay value in the game, like occasionally you can find items there, like how berries respawn in Berry Forest in FRLG.
That might also be neat. Something like special Pokémon would also be cool.
The song is very uncanny. Specially because it's reused on Eon Island, Faraway Island, and the other ones where the other legendaries appear and since I first played Emerald on an emulator, I used codes to enter there and being a kid I didn't know how to leave said islands by deactivating the codes until I reloaded the savestate. Those islands felt like forbidden places as I was aware there was no normal way of reaching them, and they all had this soundtrack playing, making it all the more mysterious and creepy. No NPC's there, just the puzzles and the legendaries.
Screw Titanic, this is the true shipwreck
I wonder if there was a Jack and Rose in Hoenn 😳
The true shipwreck is the Pokemon franchise
@@mewziikal8331please don’t bring that negativity here let’s keep it positive
Also ur wrong
I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues
Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters
What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things?
Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised
Was friendship magic?
Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures?
Ok then it’s a good game
Those are what’s important to Pokémon
As the og theme said
Pokémon is about
Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend
I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside
Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through
you teach me and I teach you”
That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end
Then that’s a strong enough ending for me
Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that
Performance graphics those things never Mattered
You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because
The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship
The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games
And it’s about time you all understand that by now
They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime
The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga
If you move one thing it all falls apart
They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that
Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up
Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good
You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get
Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient
Assuming we get more open world games
NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic
Probably turned it upside down
And before u say just delay the game
They can’t delay the game
The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship
The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games
And it’s about time you all understand that by now
They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime
The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga
If you move one thing it all falls apart
They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that
Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
@@GatorEX I'm kinda surprised that the couple duo trainer's name was not Jack and rose as a reference to the movie
This is fake titanic is real
Instead of trainer there
They should make it place for Ghost pokemon instead
Would be more fitting as abandoned ship than become trainers secret gathering place 😅
There's something eerie about the Abandoned Ship being replaced by Sea Mauville in the remake. It's as though the spot itself is cursed, and whatever is in that place is doomed to be wrecked. Almost like a Pokemon equivalence to the Bermuda Triangle.
I feel like these explorations were something the 3D Pokémon games have outright dropped, and I’m not even sure why. There was always that thrill you got when you found a neat location you either didn’t notice before or wanted to go back to, and entered to kill time and lurk about. I’ll never forget my absolutely shock when I discovered the Hidden Braille cave, spent time figuring it out, and then came across the Regis, then only to later on find the ship, and later the tower where Rayquaza lies (mind you, this was in Sapphire, long before we had much access to the internet outside of the Libraries or school).
Even the Old Chateau was fascinating to me, as much as I HATED going in there (it’s by far the scariest place in any Pokémon game. I just never liked going in there).
I had Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon Sapphire when I was a kid. When I first played Sapphire, I thought the abandoned ship was the same same one from the FireRed and counterpart copies, because I remember they said they’d be going to a far off region.
They don’t make explorable places like this in newer Pokemon games anymore. You can only see them from a distance. 😒
I personally think that the ship just got stuck and was left to rot.
It was left to become a natural habitat instead of being scavenged
Feels like these unique areas are just being abandoned for a copy paste open world format with little in it. Can't even go in houses. Sad
You must not have played many open world games if you think they lack unique locations
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69Theyre talking about Scarlet/Violet.
This place has one of my favourite themes in the series. Faraway Island also having this theme is similarly perfect.
Was Abandon Ship the only appearance of a Marshtomp in the 4Kids dub? Iirc it was voiced by the lady who voiced Mudkip (and Cacnea), but I don't think she was credited for the role. She also provided vocals for Yu-Gi-Oh's We'll Be There song.
Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness had another abandoned ship as well.
i heard that it was scuttled to make a habitat for wild pokemon.. but it also looks like something from a metal gear game. the final battle with big boss in zanzibar land mixed with the frigate that ships arsenal gear.
Also it’s possible to trigger a trainer battle from across rooms. Some trainers’ line of sight is not bound by the walls.
I always wanted to live in that ship, i was like "those rooms and furniture are still good, just needs a little fixing up"
Could this ship be SS.Anne from the Kanto region? Don't forget that it was confirmed long ago that the Gen 3 games and the Gen 1 remakes take place at the same time.
The abandoned ship had a name, which you’d find out if you went back to talk to the scientist. It is S.S Cactus.
Emerald: the pinnacle of the Pokémon games hands down
They need to bring back these sprite-based games. Like, launch them aside the 3D games so we can get two perspectives of the same region. Would be really cool.
They could have made Scarlet a retro-like sprite-based game and Violet in the newer 3D style. Seems fitting to me
3d was never the issue. Plenty beautiful 3d games with their own atmosphere
@@nicnac2dI hope they never make a sprite game again because of people like you
Unlikely, Pokemon is trying to reach the biggest audience possible. A sprite based game would make older fans and retro gamers happy, but not the current generation of kids or teens or many casual gamers. I would love to see an actually graphically pleasing 3D game for once. The switch games are just really badly executed in terms of graphics and environments
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Geez, who hurt you? People are allowed to like different graphic styles. Relax.
For an "abandoned" ship there sure is a lot of residents 😂
As a kid, I remembering foaming at the mouth to get surf and check out that abandoned ship!
I remember seeing this in the Anime. It had a abandoned Marshstomp. It had a creepy vibe for a Pokemon episode.
I wish the games would bring back diving.
I'm not 100% sure but I believe the ship's name is the SS Cactus.
I wonder how many people perished
In the anime at least, they mention there were no casualties, not sure about the game, though. Now when it comes to Sea Mauville 💀
Comments: **Titanic-like tragedy**
Me: "I just thought they struck a sandbar and ditched it..."
ngl im suprised there where no ghost pokemon floatin around here
I think the reason they removed the abandoned ship is because around the time ORAS were being made the costa concordia disaster happened. I think they didn't want to risk media attention from from ignorant people.
Maybe, but it could also be that Masuda is obsessed with removing any darker elements from the Pokemon world, and usually I don't take the side of the weirdo edgelords that want M-rated Pokemon, but he seems hellbent on making the games as saccharine as possible
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69
>Maybe, but it could also be that Masuda is obsessed with removing any darker elements from the Pokemon world
Better not look at many of the Pokedex entries or the obligatory ghost encounters.
@@D8W2P4 The ghost encounters got a little too overexplained past Gen 4. Gen 6 definitely had the best one in general. There's still dark stuff in the games and the PokeDex entries can get dark but the world itself doesn't feel as mean and scary as it used to I think. Mainly my beef was with ORAS here, they made Aqua/Magma into a bunch of goofy idiots too
I'm playing Ruby at the moment and one of the tuber kids spotted me and battled me through a wall, I think they're definitely implying at least some of the people on the ship are ghosts
I used to think this was this S.S. Anne and we finally got to see what happened to it.
I cannot wait for a deep dive (no pun intended but accepted just the same) on Sea Mauville because that place is CREEPY. I also feel like whatever bizarre organization was behind it had to be the group that Archie and Maxie were in before they split. And oh god I feel so awful for Cozmo, which is something I never thought I would!
It wasn't creepy though? They just abandoned the project because it didn't turn out very successful, the only eerie thing was that Spiritomb was watching them but it's not a creepy Pokemon
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Did you read the notes about that place? They basically ran a cult out of there.
@@BJGvideosNah just a satire of corrupt scummy businesses, there's no religious language, just talks about unions being evil or not getting overtime pay.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 They had an oath and all that.
@@BJGvideos Ever worked at Amazon? Tbf I just dislike this remake in general, but I really wasn't a fan of this change in particular, feels like they wanted to overexplain something that should've been mysterious and made it kinda lamer as a result. A ship crashing that was turned into a nature reserve instead of being scavenged is already cool enough, I don't see why they felt the need to add more story to it. They also tried to connect it to New Mauville but that was always one of the stupidest story elements from the original games, they should've just made it Mauville's Power Plant or something. It doesn't exactly look like a city. That place only exists so you can get an extra TM from Watson and so you can catch Magnemite and Voltorb, that could've just been available on the same Route you get Plusle/Minun and Electrike on. Not the hugest fan of how they changed Mauville either.
Title: The Shipwreck is Terrifying
Video: It’s not scary.
Miss these type of areas and puzzles. 😢 sword, Shield, Scarlet and Violet would never.
Area Zero had an even creepier tone and lore. Or do you mean puzzles?
@@BJGvideos meant more like puzzles.
I thought the holes in the ship were spikes when I was younger.
swampert is goated
0:48 I could see that LOL
Shame Pokemon Company didn't take advantage of the 3d space of Legends to let you discover litwicks otherworld.
ORAS is one of my favourite games, but I was always a little disappointed that they replaced the Abandoned Ship with Sea Mauville. The idea of exploring a shipwreck is way more exciting to me and I would have loved to see that in 3D.
Yup, one of the many changes I dislike about ORAS. They just made it lame, like they felt the need to explain sunken ship wrecks as if those don't exist IRL. And they connected it to the New Mauville lore when that was always a weird half-baked idea.
Ew you actually like ORAS?
I thought I was the only one who didn't like that. Shipwrecks are more interesting than abandoned buildings, imo.
@@silentopinion Some other people think it was because of the Costa Concordia disaster and I can believe that because Game Freak has been paranoid about accidentally causing controversy since the 90s, but they also were really trying to downplay how dark the games are. Despite the backstory of Sea Mauville involving Pokemon experimentation it feels more sanitized over a sunken ship whose crew and passengers were presumably all killed. And the backstory literally being spelled out for you in letters and notes as well as the comically evil rules workers have to follow really kills any eerie atmosphere. The remakes have this problem in general where they really defanged Hoenn that was already a pretty tame region in comparison to Kanto and Johto, see how they made Aqua and Magma a bunch of silly buffoons and turned Tabitha into a nerd and Courtney into some weird yandere fetish, Magma in general got the worst of it. Aqua didn't fare much better with how Archie's just some dumb himbo that wants to wrestle a fish and Matt is some oaf, only Shelley stayed somewhat the same. It's weird people love ORAS but hate SWSH and ScVi for making the evil teams wimpy when ORAS really ruined Hoenn's atmosphere and made everything too goofy, they also did it to the rivals and some Gym Leaders.
I always came here to grab ice beam before the flying gym
Looking forward to the Sea Mauville video!
I miss going for deep dives in the pokemon games. I wish they had that in modern pokemon. Why they removed that feature, I'll never know. I love exploring the world of pokemon. It's interesting to see the under water habitats of pokemon, and to see what kind of pokemon live in what area. I wish they'd bring back diving in pokemon. If they're going to bring back flying in the DLC, they can bring back diving as well. Maybe if we're lucky they'll bring it back in the future. One can only hope!
SuMo had cool little things like this, it's only the last two gens that removed them but PLA and even SwSh to some degree had mysterious areas like the Gigantamax tree or the church
Imagine a Pokemon game where you have to fight the 5 titanic submarine dwellers(4 elite fours & 1 elite champion)
I remember there was an an internet rumor, based off of absolutely nothing, saying that the Abandoned Ship was the SS Anne
I was so upset when the abandoned ship didn't make a comeback in the remakes.
Missed opportunity to put a rare catchable pokemon on the ship.
I love these episodes exploring different parts of the games
When I first played gen 3 I was curious on what's on this ship. And was not disappointed
Today I learned that Mechanophobia is a word.
There is a phobia for just about everything
@@philipgelderblom6878 that I know. I was talking about the word itself
@@MatiNuva1724 No need to infophobic. Not a real word, but I'm too lazy to look up the real one.
@@philipgelderblom6878 kind of a mood
I freaking love the theme of Abandoned Ship/ Sea Mavil
I never thought this was creepy when I played the game.
Still holding out hope that we'll eventually get R/S/E on the Switch virtual console so we can re-experience things like the abandoned ship
It was quite a interesting place to explore back in the day.
It’s like the new less scary version of Lavender Town… gosh that music still creeps me out, and the original from green version is the worst!
2:58
Is that Mallow from sun and moon?
I never saw it as terrifying at all, mostly because of it filled with other trainers treating it as a tourist spot. If it was empty then it would be a different story.
Remember the lady in the sun and moon demo that got on the cruise ship? That ship crashed in hoenn. Thats my theory.
Always thought of Kyogre when seeing the holes on the deck
How did i not know this even existed?
It's really hard for someone to not notice it, congratulations you are a really weird person
Speaking of Pokemon shipwrecks… can we get some love for SS Libra in here??
I never found it creepy. I always thought it was the S.S. Anne after some accident it had that was never explained to me.
At least that's what I thought as a kid.
I didn't understand why Pokémon’s Abandoned Ship is TERRIFYING
This is nothing compared to ecco the dolphin
I actually just got done doing sea mauville in my replay of omega ruby before this was uploaded
I always assumed the holes were water damage
You didn't catch the hints then? All the people on the abandoned ship is actually ghosts.
It doesnt feel terrifying unless its haunted by a ghost like that one mansion from Sinnoh.
Maybe all npc are ghost
Yeah, the Abandoned Ship is nice. But everyone knows that the #1, hands-down best location in any video game ever is the Cabana in Wind Waker.
Is either evolution of clamperl objectively better? I always liked huntail as a kid
I give this video a 7/10, too much water
Why don’t I remember sea mauville I played omega ruby so much
On the oldest generation you need to explorer to get the scanner and trade for rare items
On new generation all npc give you items and you need to pay to get all Pokémon
I forgot about this.
It's quite cool, though I didn't explore it much.
I have submechaphobia
small ship
Was this the one with the Cloyster and Onix couple? Or was that a different ship?
Wahey top ten Pokémon ships is real
Can you do New Mauville next?
Can you do a video on the Battle Resort Masters from ORAS?
That abandoned ship is the ss anne from pokemon red blue and yellow
No, it's called the SS Cactus- this is revealed in-game.
Subbing for the content and the great narrator voice!
an abandoned ship being terryfying... Sorry, you force me to mention Jojo's Bizarre adventure