So uh for your information, they have counter weights on the right side to balance with the fuel tank. Stamped doesn’t mean weak. I personally have the 960M. I came from using hustler and I also demoed 7 brands before deciding to run my Deere. In my area gravely cut like crap. It’s odd that the 950 deck was moving because Mine has always been sturdy. I’ve never had problems keeping my deck clean. Actually since I always clean my stuff when I’m done I’ve noticed that the Deere is way easier to keep clean than other mowers I’ve had to clean off due to not as much being in the way. My hustler pulleys we’re protected like the TC2 he pointed out and stuff still got in there and was a pain to clean. A lot of what I’m hearing in this video sounds like it comes from someone who has very little experience out on the field with these machines. Some of the things he pointed out are not all that important. Now, the only thing I dislike about my JD is that they went with Tuff Torq transmissions instead of Parker or Hydro gear. And yes as he mentioned I notice it a bit jerky coming off the trailer but once you are in the field it’s not. I actually prefer the angled rops bar because it doesn’t stick up near as high as the other brands and actually hits less limbs altogether. Also anyone who knows anything about lawn care knows that it’s only on rare occasions that you even have to use a rops bar when there are low hanging trees around. I mean every property is different but like I said it’s rare. 90% of the time mine are down and it’s very hilly out here. Like he said KNOW your facts. Don’t get them from someone who’s biased. Demo them for yourself before you make a decision. What works for me may not work for you. Scag and Wright are great mowers and I have nothing against them and I would even consider buying them if I had good dealers near me. Where I live you see more JD and Scag than anything else and that’s for good reason. Find the best dealers near you and pick your favorite mower brand between them according to your opinion.
I dont know anything about the z900 series but I got a z720e and that thing is a monster. Going from a home depot riding mower it is a world of difference. It lasted a good 7 years before I had an issue. Don't see why the z720 wont last for 20. Cuts like a dream too, also cut my mowing time in half.
Same here except it’s John Deere and ex mark. These guys can’t sell Deere mowers, so they don’t push them . I have the same mower you have, just wish it had the Ferris suspension.
Hey buddy I have one with 3500+ hrs and have not broke an anti scalp wheel bracket yet. Not had an issue with the deck at all in any way. Personal opinion on stamped deck or fabricated deck. One last just as good as the other. Had them both. Plastic covers over spindle bearings don't rattle as bad like metal does. Never replaced spindle bearings either. Gas tank makes no difference either. Had both. Just your opinion. John Deere is very well built unless you drive it over a cliff. Speaking from experience . Have a great day.
I have owned and ran nearly all models, I rank them top to bottom, JD, Hustler, Scag, top models, worst, Snapper Pro, Bobcat, Gravely. One of my John Deeres had over 4000 hrs and still the original spindles. I have already replaced all the spindles on one of my Hustlers at 1000 hours. Plus nothing cuts like the John Deere deck, but the Scag is close.
I owned a scag tiger cub , exmark lazer z and bought a brand new 950m Deere. The scag was a tough trouble free machine it was also rough as heck and cut terrible like hay bailing. Lazer z was good quality build and good cut;; Deere rides A+ smooth operation and out cuts them All period.
And there it is...he is a salesman trying to sell you a lawnmower that he sells. Must have been a former used car salesman. As a John Deere Z960R owner, (and have ran and owned others) the others don't compare in quality, cut and toughness.
About the only thing I agree with Is the parking break on the deere is a little harsh to set. Not a deal breaker by no means. Nothing wrong with this deere mower. It's a great and well designed machine. They are several well designed commercial mowers on the market. I have run several brands and I'm not really partial to any of them. You run any of them long enough you will have problems. My advice when looking at these mowers is buy from the closest dealer with the best service.
This guy does not hide anything he is definitely a JD hater LOL. I've been a Husqvarna guy myself but I would definitely take that JD over any of those that he's got. All those other brands are excellent but if you pull into the property with that John Deere they will know a professional is in the hizzle.
this guys a clown for dogging deere. just because you're a mechanic doesn't mean you can drive the ship. theres a reason why deere doesn't have any competition when it comes to commercial lawn mowers. they don't make cheap shit.. striping kit..hahahah thats done by the operator and the weight of the machine not a rubbing roller 🤣 😂 the fans are covered by plastic on the deere for easier accessibility. compressor and hose = clean lol I have over 14,000 hours on a JD z950r. buy the deere. it is worth it. don't buy a worth for god sake hahaha "we just don't sell deere" so don't buy that -says the guy breathing heavily walking around mowers lol
The other day i cut accidentally a piece of metalwith my z945m deere sticking out the ground didn't see it the wobble help absorb most of the inpact the only damage was the blades everything else like nothing happen plus i get great custumer service my is a 2017 model with 1300 hours and still runnig like new maintenance is very important in all machines
I appreciate your efforts in trying to convince us of your point of view, Now in my experience after having my fair share of commercial zero turns, Best decision was my John Deer Z950M 72" Due to the cut quality, ride quality, the precision and smoothness of the Tuff Torque, track width, proven to last over 6k hrs without problems, etc.
Show us the Gravely after whatever strange voodoo happened to that JD 950m. One season clocking in a 150hrs? Looks like it was bottomed out in a pond for a couple dozen of those hours.
"know your brands before you buy" says the guy who doesn't seem to have ever experienced a full cutting season on any of the machines mentioned in this video.
In other words Deere is out selling his brands. Now I run 4 of these mowers and yes they do have their flaws but I still see high hours and low maintenance out of them
John Deere designed the stamped deck for lack of clogging. I have 2 2016 Toro Z masters 3000. They are awesome machines no issues with them at all however the turbo force deck is terrible about clogging so I vote a win for John Deere design. Mowing over 60 properties, productivity is the name of the game. Who has time to clean out the deck all the time?
Don't see a lot of john deere mowers in central texas cutting commercially and the ones I do see are the $18,000 and up tanks with all tweels. Mostly Scag, Exmark, Kubota, Hustler and Toro here in central Texas. They do have dealers in almost every city or town, that's a plus when needing parts or service. I don't have any experience with john deere commercial mowers, but would love to try one. Does john deere offer efi kawasaki's and efi Kohler's? So used to seeing Briggs and Stratton engine's on there.
agree but thats not a deciding factor.....gm and ford own a huge share of the market in trucks but for reliablity i would put up a toyota any day of the week to be better
jd have great quality 900 series mowers I thought the same way you did but my friend owns a lawn business and he gets 2 to 3 k hours out of them and I'm very happy I bought one. great engineering
Your compassions are not fair to the John Deere! You are obviously down on the John Deere for some reason. Maybe because your are not a dealer. I Don't Know, but if you expect your viewers to take you seriously you have to make better comparisons. I don't own any of those mowers so I don't have a dog in the fight, but you sir are not fair.
Like most have mentioned here, take them out and USE them, you will see which ones perform the best. Deere and Scag have the best decks on the market, period. QOC is superior on the Deere and Scag Velocity Plus II is right up there with it. All mowers cut grass when the conditions are perfect, but what about damp/wet/tall grass? I own that exact same Deere, it sticks the hills, even when wet. All mowers have pros/cons, but Deere and Scag commercials are 2nd to none!
I feel like Deere mowers are unbelievably difficult to get honest reviews on. It’s one of the few brands that I see people fanatically swear by, but one of the mowers I see used the least in the commercial market. I could be wrong, but it’s just what I noticed when looking at the lawn mowing services around me. I’m also in Iowa, which is extra bizarre . A lot of people I hear swear by Deere, but seem like they have never owned anything else. No hate on Deere, I like the company, but I get Harley Davidson vibes. I’d like to own one though, I’m just leery that the green and yellow fantaticism is more because of Deeres branding than how they stack up against competition in the same price range. I’d love to hear people’s thoughts that have owned other brands as well as Deere.
I have only own John deers and a wright stander b 32 but the stander b is not really a complete commercial mower. but I think the best brands in my opinion are John Deere,scag,wright,exmark.
Someone’s nervous John Deere is actually starting to care about their commercial mower sales now 🤣 10 years ago they could gaf less ab building mowers the ones they did were for farmers but now there’s a market and they want in. John Deere has been designing the best tractors and implements for over 100 years. Their mowers are top notch do maintenance and never look back. 1700 hrs on my 930m same as the 950m and it’s still like new
This guy keeps saying know your facts before you buy a mower, obviously he needs to take his own advise when selling a mower. JD is the best in the market. Scag is a piece of crap, exmark is over priced and have to double cut as well as scag mowers. Been running JD for over 25 years and have only replaced 2 pto switches and 1 key switch. Owned 1 scag turf tigwer and in 2 years it broke down 6 times. Nothing runs like a Deere buddy! Believe that cause it’s true. Stole being so biased!
If you had a scag and exmark break down that much something is wrong with you exmark is the biggest commercial mower seller for a reason for years!!!!!!! Exmark and scag are the two top……. Especiallllyyy striping scag strips the best and cuts wet grass better…….. lol
When you shook the other machine the deck moved. Its suspended on chains.... reach down and really shake it . Also with the other brands running wiring loom like that its impossible to find any shorted wires and you're forced to replace the entire harness when somthing goes wrong. Pretty much everything you said is totally biased and who ever brought their machine to you to fix should see this . taking a video of a customers machine and talking bad about it the entire time?
The only thing with the Deere's is that they put the "cheaper" Kawasaki motors on their machine and the lower grade diffs compared to their competitors.. BUT the decks are 7 gauge beauties and the machines seem to work better than the competitors regardless somehow. Over priced but work well
Funny that you didn’t mention that with John Deere I can get my equipment in and out of the shop before my exmark dealer even looks at my equipment. Of course I can always buy a new exmark every other year so that I don’t need to take it too my dealer…….how does that impact my bottom line. I love exmark until I can’t use it.
Great Vid all I can say is your not obviously a JD dealer and in Australia all most shires and big property owners use JD Toro and the huskys I have seen your Scag mowers and they don't even scratch the surface compared to the JD and the Toro in warranty and service dealers located in our state. Ps worse thing you can do in business is bag other brands. Pretty funny to bag a huge company world wide known.
Thanks for the laugh. I've yet to buy a zero turn or a ztrak and I'm already seeing through the bullshit in this video. You just made my decision to buy a John Deere 950M easier. Thanks!
The thing with John Deere is zero turn mowers are not their specialty. Their big tractors are. As of Right now John Deere is doing some controversial shit as a company. They laid off a lot of employees and moved production overseas. They are against Right to Repair. That argument goes two ways. They do utilize a lot of proprietary components and software. As someone who does service my own equipment John Deere stuff is expensive. If you have a machine with a computer good luck with that. What I'm stating is fact! With Zero turn mowers the thing I found is nearly all manufacturers use similar components. But different manufacturers configure them differently. It comes down to what you are trying to do with it and how much you are willing to invest. Ride quality is a huge deal for me. I don't hate John Deere their older stuff is solid will last. They used to have great customer service and aftermarket support . That's why they have and had a strong customer base. Just like any other company they got greedy and lost touch with their customer base. If you have a solid John Deere dealership and they support their products and have great customer service. John Deere maybe a sound investment. But if you purchase their products at a big box store or through a third party, you probably will run into problems. That's the biggest factor in purchasing any piece of equipment. Go through a dealer. Try different products. Me personally I've tried different brands. Toro 2000, Ferris IS 800, Kubota 400 series and yes John Deere 700 and 900 series. I found that Ferris has the most comfortable ride. I found that Toro 2000 cuts beautifully. I find Kubotas to be a tough product. I'm a public works employee, we run commercial mowers mainly Kubota. They are tough and easy to maintain. They don't ride or cut as nice as a Ferris or Toro. For the Water Treatment plant we have a John Deere. That thing struggles. I don't like the way it cuts. It cuts clumpy. It doesn't take hills very well. When getting spare parts they are expensive. We have an older John Deere tractor at our family farm that thing is a tank and it's relatively simple to service compared to what's on the market today. That's what made John Deere! I feel they can do better if they return to their roots.
How unprofessional you are to bash a John Deere brand as you’re trying to “earn peoples business”…. You’re mowers will sell themselves if they are worthy…
Frame horn is not replaceable on the gravely. Gravely has slanted ROPS Also 1 looooooonnnnggg ass drive belt, Fabbed decks clog alot, Ferris are nice new but once the suspesion starts to wear out they are crap. The deck on the Deere isnt adjusted right. Should not have that much play. Loom on the deere could be nicer. Wish the deck didnt have recess on the pulleys. Wright makes Deere standers. If you were a local dealer trying to sell me a piece of equipment and you started bad mouthing a competing brand Id tell you to get bent and take my business elsewhere. On my 2nd 930m and have owned a wright built 636. Not moving away from deere.
I have a John Deere z930 and the deck does not wobble like that at all. It is as solid as a rock. I'm not denying some of the other things he says, but his ridiculing the deck is completely off. It is a solid as any zero turn I've ever driven
Easily the most obvious point you missed is your customer don’t have a clue how to use a simple blower & clean the equipment off at the end of the day. Everything else you said is opinion. And it seems yours is very much the minority opinion.
I take it that you don't like John Deere. Dude I have a 2008 John Deere 777 runs as good as the day I bought it. You're picky over nothing. With everything you have mentioned I've had none of the issues that you have said would break or give issues down the road.,,,, ZERO ISSUES almost forgot sorry had a fuel pump go bad. changed it out in five minutes and was mowing again. 😂😂 after doing all that talking you need to drink a tall glass of haterade 🥃!
Never buying a deck that had a 10 gauge or thinner shell, dad was using my previous scag tc II and clipped a stump that was hidden in the grass and bent the deck shell of the v+. Deck left a line of uncut grass between the blades. Sold it and switched to a better brand
I grease my deck wheels too on my 930 just wondering if anyone else did that. I took them all off and drilled a little hole to get the grease in right in the middle every time I use it
John Deere is the best mower l ever tried in 37 years all the things you picked thru doesn't happen l never experienced anything your talking about let's cut grass and not talk Scag and Ferris are junk I've had both maybe you should get your facts straight rookie
Dude, when's the last time you looked at pulleys on an automobile? Those pulleys are pretty close together. Yeah there's a lot of dirt and stuff that gets up in there but maintain it after every use. That's what I do with mines. I clean it after every use. That way it will last. I can see that you're not taking care of it because it's just right down. Filthy clean it up after every use
Alot of conflicting information in the video. You went back and forth about JD and that it's not well built then you mention you are saying it's not a good machine so you leave your viewers confused. It would have been helpful just to have you do comparisons without shaming the brand which would be professional if you are in the business of selling mowers.
The 950m in your video is super dirty why would you not blow it off after every mow and this mower hasn't been washed in a long time my 930 m has 997 hours i never had many problems if you wash them change the oil they last along time i did forget the throttle cable did break and the warranty did cover it my 930 has a 1200 hour warranty and we mow 67 yards a week.
I have a 10 year old gravely. I mow a little over two acres that is rough terrain with tree roots, fire ant hills, and uneven terrain. It is a beast. It does jar the breath out of you when you hit a low spot or hill, even though I have the best seat you can get on it. It is heavily built with a Kawasaki engine that is excellent. I keep the oil and filters changed. In 10 years I have only had to replace two belts. The blades seem to wear fast. That may be because of my yard quality. It does a good job and I like it. I especially like my Gravely dealer. I have nothing bad to say about the Gravely. But I don't know how others stack up. The new Gravely models "appear" to be of less quality than mine but I don't know. I also own a compact JD tractor and I have a 60" belly more that I use sometimes. The tractor is really too big to uses as a mower in my yard but I love having a backup. But I must say that JD deck will throw some grass! But because of my limited use, I regret buying the belly mower for the JD since I don't really need it. I do mow the open spaced with the JD about ¼ of the time. But i probably wouldn't buy the mower again. Now, I LOVE the Deere tractor. It is engineered so much better that the Gravely, not that they should be compared. I am just saying Gravely makes tough mowers, but Deere has better ergonomics, design, and comfort. At least the Deere tractor does. I absolutely love the Deere tractor. I also like the Gravely very much but don't love it. I see it as more utilitarian. That may make me a Deere homer. So be it. I think other tractors look like good machines too and may be a better "value" if money is the only consideration. But the Deere has a lot of value that can't be measured in dollars. It's like having a recliner vs. having a La-z-Boy. It's like having a Timex vs a Rolex. They bot get the job done, but one does it with more finesse, style, comfort, and a certain satisfaction of ownership. That's why Deere has fan-boys. Also, they are good investments, at least the tractors. Deere rips off people with their prices, but there is a reason they have so much market share. That being said, I am anticipating replacing my Gravely in a year or so. Looking at prices, Deere seems to be about 10% higher. I have been looking at all the mowers out there and many seem very good. But I have Gravely and Deere dealers nearby. I just love the look and specs of the Deere and am seriously considering getting a Deere next time. I prefer the Gravely dealer and wish he sold Deere too. This review does not deter me from considering Deere in the least. I am not in the mowing business and I believe I would love the Deere if it is comparable to my tractor in engineering, handling, comfort, etc. The deck looks great to me unless you are trying to mow dow metal posts That would break a Gravely too! I believe this guy is a Deere hater and is showing us an abused Deere ZT. We all have our preferences, and my is Deere until someone shows me different.
I’ve had just about every brand except JD. Had a 930 priced just under $13k. The 950 is even more. That’s an expensive mower, even compared to other brands to be built so cheap. You guys can say all u want but u can’t make up things on a video. You could see it was cheaply built. A mower that expensive should have very little plastic and be built like a tank. You just talked me out of a 930! Thank you!
I'm not gonna sugar coat it.....THIS is the sorriest review of a 950M on RUclips!!!
You are not a Deere dealer , that's why your sour on it
So uh for your information, they have counter weights on the right side to balance with the fuel tank. Stamped doesn’t mean weak. I personally have the 960M. I came from using hustler and I also demoed 7 brands before deciding to run my Deere. In my area gravely cut like crap. It’s odd that the 950 deck was moving because Mine has always been sturdy. I’ve never had problems keeping my deck clean. Actually since I always clean my stuff when I’m done I’ve noticed that the Deere is way easier to keep clean than other mowers I’ve had to clean off due to not as much being in the way. My hustler pulleys we’re protected like the TC2 he pointed out and stuff still got in there and was a pain to clean. A lot of what I’m hearing in this video sounds like it comes from someone who has very little experience out on the field with these machines. Some of the things he pointed out are not all that important. Now, the only thing I dislike about my JD is that they went with Tuff Torq transmissions instead of Parker or Hydro gear. And yes as he mentioned I notice it a bit jerky coming off the trailer but once you are in the field it’s not. I actually prefer the angled rops bar because it doesn’t stick up near as high as the other brands and actually hits less limbs altogether. Also anyone who knows anything about lawn care knows that it’s only on rare occasions that you even have to use a rops bar when there are low hanging trees around. I mean every property is different but like I said it’s rare. 90% of the time mine are down and it’s very hilly out here. Like he said KNOW your facts. Don’t get them from someone who’s biased. Demo them for yourself before you make a decision. What works for me may not work for you. Scag and Wright are great mowers and I have nothing against them and I would even consider buying them if I had good dealers near me. Where I live you see more JD and Scag than anything else and that’s for good reason. Find the best dealers near you and pick your favorite mower brand between them according to your opinion.
I dont know anything about the z900 series but I got a z720e and that thing is a monster. Going from a home depot riding mower it is a world of difference. It lasted a good 7 years before I had an issue. Don't see why the z720 wont last for 20. Cuts like a dream too, also cut my mowing time in half.
My 915e is awesome mower tried out several, my next one will be another Deere...
awesome mower and engineering is great people don't know unless they have used them
Holy shit u said it all right there I have 2 960m’s and they are awesome mowers I will put them up against any other mower out there.
Same here except it’s John Deere and ex mark. These guys can’t sell Deere mowers, so they don’t push them . I have the same mower you have, just wish it had the Ferris suspension.
John deer told this man he couldn’t be a dealer for them☠️☠️☠️
Hey buddy I have one with 3500+ hrs and have not broke an anti scalp wheel bracket yet. Not had an issue with the deck at all in any way. Personal opinion on stamped deck or fabricated deck. One last just as good as the other. Had them both. Plastic covers over spindle bearings don't rattle as bad like metal does. Never replaced spindle bearings either. Gas tank makes no difference either. Had both. Just your opinion. John Deere is very well built unless you drive it over a cliff. Speaking from experience . Have a great day.
I just got 4000
wow jd are great you got haters that don't know but think so
Ya this guy is a brochure queen
Doesn't seem to know much in terms of actual experience
I have owned and ran nearly all models, I rank them top to bottom, JD, Hustler, Scag, top models, worst, Snapper Pro, Bobcat, Gravely. One of my John Deeres had over 4000 hrs and still the original spindles. I have already replaced all the spindles on one of my Hustlers at 1000 hours. Plus nothing cuts like the John Deere deck, but the Scag is close.
Agreed!!!!!
Any input on Ferris?
Wrong scag and exmark both cut better than a Deere those are two top brand mowers been too for decades for a reason
100% agree.
Tell me you hate John Deere without telling me you hate John Deere.
I owned a scag tiger cub , exmark lazer z and bought a brand new 950m Deere. The scag was a tough trouble free machine it was also rough as heck and cut terrible like hay bailing. Lazer z was good quality build and good cut;; Deere rides A+ smooth operation and out cuts them All period.
And there it is...he is a salesman trying to sell you a lawnmower that he sells. Must have been a former used car salesman. As a John Deere Z960R owner, (and have ran and owned others) the others don't compare in quality, cut and toughness.
About the only thing I agree with Is the parking break on the deere is a little harsh to set. Not a deal breaker by no means. Nothing wrong with this deere mower. It's a great and well designed machine. They are several well designed commercial mowers on the market. I have run several brands and I'm not really partial to any of them. You run any of them long enough you will have problems. My advice when looking at these mowers is buy from the closest dealer with the best service.
closest dealer is easy best service not so
I gotta agree. We'll said
Pot metal ? Come on guy
He’s actually right it is pot metal #johndeersucks
This guy does not hide anything he is definitely a JD hater LOL. I've been a Husqvarna guy myself but I would definitely take that JD over any of those that he's got. All those other brands are excellent but if you pull into the property with that John Deere they will know a professional is in the hizzle.
Telling the truth doesn't make you a hater
Obviously your extremely anti John Deere. Stop crying you probably have no experience on mowers any ways lmao
i*m not a john deere person either
this guys a clown for dogging deere. just because you're a mechanic doesn't mean you can drive the ship. theres a reason why deere doesn't have any competition when it comes to commercial lawn mowers. they don't make cheap shit.. striping kit..hahahah thats done by the operator and the weight of the machine not a rubbing roller 🤣 😂 the fans are covered by plastic on the deere for easier accessibility. compressor and hose = clean lol I have over 14,000 hours on a JD z950r. buy the deere. it is worth it. don't buy a worth for god sake hahaha "we just don't sell deere" so don't buy that -says the guy breathing heavily walking around mowers lol
The other day i cut accidentally a piece of metalwith my z945m deere sticking out the ground didn't see it the wobble help absorb most of the inpact the only damage was the blades everything else like nothing happen plus i get great custumer service my is a 2017 model with 1300 hours and still runnig like new maintenance is very important in all machines
I appreciate your efforts in trying to convince us of your point of view, Now in my experience after having my fair share of commercial zero turns, Best decision was my John Deer Z950M 72" Due to the cut quality, ride quality, the precision and smoothness of the Tuff Torque, track width, proven to last over 6k hrs without problems, etc.
Show us the Gravely after whatever strange voodoo happened to that JD 950m. One season clocking in a 150hrs? Looks like it was bottomed out in a pond for a couple dozen of those hours.
"know your brands before you buy" says the guy who doesn't seem to have ever experienced a full cutting season on any of the machines mentioned in this video.
More important is the axle transmissions - can you change the oil?, is there a filter?, is there drain bolts ?.
In other words Deere is out selling his brands. Now I run 4 of these mowers and yes they do have their flaws but I still see high hours and low maintenance out of them
John Deere designed the stamped deck for lack of clogging. I have 2 2016 Toro Z masters 3000. They are awesome machines no issues with them at all however the turbo force deck is terrible about clogging so I vote a win for John Deere design. Mowing over 60 properties, productivity is the name of the game. Who has time to clean out the deck all the time?
John deere probably only company got the technology to stamp 7 gauge steel
Don't see a lot of john deere mowers in central texas cutting commercially and the ones I do see are the $18,000 and up tanks with all tweels. Mostly Scag, Exmark, Kubota, Hustler and Toro here in central Texas. They do have dealers in almost every city or town, that's a plus when needing parts or service. I don't have any experience with john deere commercial mowers, but would love to try one. Does john deere offer efi kawasaki's and efi Kohler's? So used to seeing Briggs and Stratton engine's on there.
Yes they do the z945m and z955m are some of them
I see alot of john deere here in Missouri
Who holds the largest market share? Likely it’s green.... full stop!
agree but thats not a deciding factor.....gm and ford own a huge share of the market in trucks but for reliablity i would put up a toyota any day of the week to be better
jd have great quality 900 series mowers I thought the same way you did but my friend owns a lawn business and he gets 2 to 3 k hours out of them and I'm very happy I bought one. great engineering
Nothing runs like a Deere
Does nothing but bad mouths the deere mower.... Only one deere mower on lot to be worked on
Your compassions are not fair to the John Deere! You are obviously down on the John Deere for some reason. Maybe because your are not a dealer. I Don't Know, but if you expect your viewers to take you seriously you have to make better comparisons. I don't own any of those mowers so I don't have a dog in the fight, but you sir are not fair.
Like most have mentioned here, take them out and USE them, you will see which ones perform the best. Deere and Scag have the best decks on the market, period. QOC is superior on the Deere and Scag Velocity Plus II is right up there with it. All mowers cut grass when the conditions are perfect, but what about damp/wet/tall grass? I own that exact same Deere, it sticks the hills, even when wet. All mowers have pros/cons, but Deere and Scag commercials are 2nd to none!
I feel like Deere mowers are unbelievably difficult to get honest reviews on. It’s one of the few brands that I see people fanatically swear by, but one of the mowers I see used the least in the commercial market. I could be wrong, but it’s just what I noticed when looking at the lawn mowing services around me. I’m also in Iowa, which is extra bizarre . A lot of people I hear swear by Deere, but seem like they have never owned anything else. No hate on Deere, I like the company, but I get Harley Davidson vibes. I’d like to own one though, I’m just leery that the green and yellow fantaticism is more because of Deeres branding than how they stack up against competition in the same price range. I’d love to hear people’s thoughts that have owned other brands as well as Deere.
I have only own John deers and a wright stander b 32 but the stander b is not really a complete commercial mower. but I think the best brands in my opinion are John Deere,scag,wright,exmark.
This was a joke. You need to change the title to "I got rejected and now I am all pissed off." Loads of misinformation
What brand and model do you own?
Great mower . Great cut
Someone’s nervous John Deere is actually starting to care about their commercial mower sales now 🤣 10 years ago they could gaf less ab building mowers the ones they did were for farmers but now there’s a market and they want in. John Deere has been designing the best tractors and implements for over 100 years. Their mowers are top notch do maintenance and never look back. 1700 hrs on my 930m same as the 950m and it’s still like new
He is mad because he can’t sell John deers 😂
This guy keeps saying know your facts before you buy a mower, obviously he needs to take his own advise when selling a mower. JD is the best in the market. Scag is a piece of crap, exmark is over priced and have to double cut as well as scag mowers. Been running JD for over 25 years and have only replaced 2 pto switches and 1 key switch. Owned 1 scag turf tigwer and in 2 years it broke down 6 times. Nothing runs like a Deere buddy! Believe that cause it’s true. Stole being so biased!
Deere is junk compared to scag and exmark. Hence why all the big boy landscape companies use them. Dont be a fool
If you had a scag and exmark break down that much something is wrong with you exmark is the biggest commercial mower seller for a reason for years!!!!!!! Exmark and scag are the two top……. Especiallllyyy striping scag strips the best and cuts wet grass better…….. lol
I’ve got a z920 m with 2150 hrs and it’s great, built well and easy to keep clean, don’t listen to him lol
Review of the Deere is BS & outright lies. Had one for for 5 years & never had any mechanical or traction problems.
When you shook the other machine the deck moved. Its suspended on chains.... reach down and really shake it . Also with the other brands running wiring loom like that its impossible to find any shorted wires and you're forced to replace the entire harness when somthing goes wrong. Pretty much everything you said is totally biased and who ever brought their machine to you to fix should see this . taking a video of a customers machine and talking bad about it the entire time?
The only thing with the Deere's is that they put the "cheaper" Kawasaki motors on their machine and the lower grade diffs compared to their competitors.. BUT the decks are 7 gauge beauties and the machines seem to work better than the competitors regardless somehow. Over priced but work well
Funny that you didn’t mention that with John Deere I can get my equipment in and out of the shop before my exmark dealer even looks at my equipment. Of course I can always buy a new exmark every other year so that I don’t need to take it too my dealer…….how does that impact my bottom line. I love exmark until I can’t use it.
Great Vid all I can say is your not obviously a JD dealer and in Australia all most shires and big property owners use JD Toro and the huskys I have seen your Scag mowers and they don't even scratch the surface compared to the JD and the Toro in warranty and service dealers located in our state. Ps worse thing you can do in business is bag other brands. Pretty funny to bag a huge company world wide known.
Thanks for the laugh. I've yet to buy a zero turn or a ztrak and I'm already seeing through the bullshit in this video. You just made my decision to buy a John Deere 950M easier. Thanks!
Ok ..That’s a point.. about the mowers but who has the better financing…
Which mower discharges wet grass the best without leaving clumps??
The thing with John Deere is zero turn mowers are not their specialty. Their big tractors are. As of Right now John Deere is doing some controversial shit as a company. They laid off a lot of employees and moved production overseas. They are against Right to Repair. That argument goes two ways. They do utilize a lot of proprietary components and software. As someone who does service my own equipment John Deere stuff is expensive. If you have a machine with a computer good luck with that. What I'm stating is fact! With Zero turn mowers the thing I found is nearly all manufacturers use similar components. But different manufacturers configure them differently. It comes down to what you are trying to do with it and how much you are willing to invest. Ride quality is a huge deal for me. I don't hate John Deere their older stuff is solid will last. They used to have great customer service and aftermarket support . That's why they have and had a strong customer base. Just like any other company they got greedy and lost touch with their customer base. If you have a solid John Deere dealership and they support their products and have great customer service. John Deere maybe a sound investment. But if you purchase their products at a big box store or through a third party, you probably will run into problems. That's the biggest factor in purchasing any piece of equipment. Go through a dealer. Try different products. Me personally I've tried different brands. Toro 2000, Ferris IS 800, Kubota 400 series and yes John Deere 700 and 900 series. I found that Ferris has the most comfortable ride. I found that Toro 2000 cuts beautifully. I find Kubotas to be a tough product. I'm a public works employee, we run commercial mowers mainly Kubota. They are tough and easy to maintain. They don't ride or cut as nice as a Ferris or Toro. For the Water Treatment plant we have a John Deere. That thing struggles. I don't like the way it cuts. It cuts clumpy. It doesn't take hills very well. When getting spare parts they are expensive. We have an older John Deere tractor at our family farm that thing is a tank and it's relatively simple to service compared to what's on the market today. That's what made John Deere! I feel they can do better if they return to their roots.
He should have just named this video why not to buy a John Deere zero turn! I wonder why the bias.? Anyone got any ideas?
How unprofessional you are to bash a John Deere brand as you’re trying to “earn peoples business”…. You’re mowers will sell themselves if they are worthy…
Obviously this guy has never seen a Scag frame break which happens a lot
So far as the hills its a beast you must not be mowing fast slow down no problem
I’m gonna bet this guy is not an authorized dealer hence his substandard review.
This guy is wet behind the ears, had this mower for 12 years plus never a problem. He mist be a cub cadet salesman
Frame horn is not replaceable on the gravely. Gravely has slanted ROPS Also 1 looooooonnnnggg ass drive belt, Fabbed decks clog alot, Ferris are nice new but once the suspesion starts to wear out they are crap. The deck on the Deere isnt adjusted right. Should not have that much play. Loom on the deere could be nicer. Wish the deck didnt have recess on the pulleys. Wright makes Deere standers. If you were a local dealer trying to sell me a piece of equipment and you started bad mouthing a competing brand Id tell you to get bent and take my business elsewhere. On my 2nd 930m and have owned a wright built 636. Not moving away from deere.
I have a John Deere z930 and the deck does not wobble like that at all. It is as solid as a rock.
I'm not denying some of the other things he says, but his ridiculing the deck is completely off. It is a solid as any zero turn I've ever driven
You have a bias that is plain to see.
He doest like deere I think
Easily the most obvious point you missed is your customer don’t have a clue how to use a simple blower & clean the equipment off at the end of the day. Everything else you said is opinion. And it seems yours is very much the minority opinion.
I take it that you don't like John Deere. Dude I have a 2008 John Deere 777 runs as good as the day I bought it. You're picky over nothing. With everything you have mentioned I've had none of the issues that you have said would break or give issues down the road.,,,, ZERO ISSUES almost forgot sorry had a fuel pump go bad. changed it out in five minutes and was mowing again. 😂😂 after doing all that talking you need to drink a tall glass of haterade 🥃!
Anyone know much about Ferris?
Never buying a deck that had a 10 gauge or thinner shell, dad was using my previous scag tc II and clipped a stump that was hidden in the grass and bent the deck shell of the v+. Deck left a line of uncut grass between the blades. Sold it and switched to a better brand
I grease my deck wheels / i blower my mower every time when im done / im happy with my mower / 😊
I grease my deck wheels too on my 930 just wondering if anyone else did that. I took them all off and drilled a little hole to get the grease in right in the middle every time I use it
What are your thoughts on Bad Boy mowers?
Where you from bo? I gotta a 950m. Looking to get a Scag.
John Deere is the best mower l ever tried in 37 years all the things you picked thru doesn't happen l never experienced anything your talking about let's cut grass and not talk Scag and Ferris are junk I've had both maybe you should get your facts straight rookie
Dude, when's the last time you looked at pulleys on an automobile? Those pulleys are pretty close together. Yeah there's a lot of dirt and stuff that gets up in there but maintain it after every use. That's what I do with mines. I clean it after every use. That way it will last. I can see that you're not taking care of it because it's just right down. Filthy clean it up after every use
Alot of conflicting information in the video. You went back and forth about JD and that it's not well built then you mention you are saying it's not a good machine so you leave your viewers confused. It would have been helpful just to have you do comparisons without shaming the brand which would be professional if you are in the business of selling mowers.
950M , Are you sure its a 2020? i have a 2018 Z920M and my dealer told me in Feb 2020 that even tho mine was new the 2020 had'nt came out at that time
The 950m in your video is super dirty why would you not blow it off after every mow and this mower hasn't been washed in a long time my 930 m has 997 hours i never had many problems if you wash them change the oil they last along time i did forget the throttle cable did break and the warranty did cover it my 930 has a 1200 hour warranty and we mow 67 yards a week.
Used car salesman........
Lots of information here but not any real recommendations.
i reccomend kubota l2900 with 72in. cut the deck weighs 500lbs
Listening to this guy talk with all the “uhs” gives me a headache.
This guy has no idea omg
The 950m looks like someone beat the hell out of it for all 150 hours. Not a good comparison at all. Try harder next time.
Your ass pain that Deere turned down your dealer request is clear as day.
It is not cast iron. Lol
Gravely is the worst
I have a 10 year old gravely. I mow a little over two acres that is rough terrain with tree roots, fire ant hills, and uneven terrain. It is a beast. It does jar the breath out of you when you hit a low spot or hill, even though I have the best seat you can get on it. It is heavily built with a Kawasaki engine that is excellent. I keep the oil and filters changed. In 10 years I have only had to replace two belts. The blades seem to wear fast. That may be because of my yard quality. It does a good job and I like it. I especially like my Gravely dealer. I have nothing bad to say about the Gravely. But I don't know how others stack up. The new Gravely models "appear" to be of less quality than mine but I don't know.
I also own a compact JD tractor and I have a 60" belly more that I use sometimes. The tractor is really too big to uses as a mower in my yard but I love having a backup. But I must say that JD deck will throw some grass! But because of my limited use, I regret buying the belly mower for the JD since I don't really need it. I do mow the open spaced with the JD about ¼ of the time. But i probably wouldn't buy the mower again. Now, I LOVE the Deere tractor. It is engineered so much better that the Gravely, not that they should be compared. I am just saying Gravely makes tough mowers, but Deere has better ergonomics, design, and comfort. At least the Deere tractor does. I absolutely love the Deere tractor. I also like the Gravely very much but don't love it. I see it as more utilitarian.
That may make me a Deere homer. So be it. I think other tractors look like good machines too and may be a better "value" if money is the only consideration. But the Deere has a lot of value that can't be measured in dollars. It's like having a recliner vs. having a La-z-Boy. It's like having a Timex vs a Rolex. They bot get the job done, but one does it with more finesse, style, comfort, and a certain satisfaction of ownership. That's why Deere has fan-boys. Also, they are good investments, at least the tractors. Deere rips off people with their prices, but there is a reason they have so much market share.
That being said, I am anticipating replacing my Gravely in a year or so. Looking at prices, Deere seems to be about 10% higher. I have been looking at all the mowers out there and many seem very good. But I have Gravely and Deere dealers nearby. I just love the look and specs of the Deere and am seriously considering getting a Deere next time. I prefer the Gravely dealer and wish he sold Deere too. This review does not deter me from considering Deere in the least. I am not in the mowing business and I believe I would love the Deere if it is comparable to my tractor in engineering, handling, comfort, etc. The deck looks great to me unless you are trying to mow dow metal posts That would break a Gravely too! I believe this guy is a Deere hater and is showing us an abused Deere ZT. We all have our preferences, and my is Deere until someone shows me different.
this guy is laughable.
Ya, bias against JD
Lol, worthless video. If you don't like deere just say so
I’ve had just about every brand except JD. Had a 930 priced just under $13k. The 950 is even more. That’s an expensive mower, even compared to other brands to be built so cheap. You guys can say all u want but u can’t make up things on a video. You could see it was cheaply built. A mower that expensive should have very little plastic and be built like a tank. You just talked me out of a 930! Thank you!
I agree man People in the comments are going gogo gaga over green and yellow paint #johndeersucks #hustler is the best
The only thing useful about your video is that you are showing a very dirty mower ! Very biased.
I would not take that piece of shit John Deere if it was given to me
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yea, right! 😆😆😆😆😆