Ace VS Natsu Isn't Fair
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024
- Ace VS Natsu Isn't Fair
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Ace VS Natsu was a vs match that Death Battle covered many years ago, with the conclusion of the match being very corny since it came down to like a type match up like it was pokemon. Instead of doing some weird verse equalization bs to come up with a corny W, today i want to actually analyze who realistically would this match in 2024. For this matchup I will be using not only Ace’s feats in the manga and anime but also in his mini novel series that IS canon to the manga. While for Natsu I will be using the current BASE Natsu from 100 YQ. The reason for this is because both versions have a very similar aura to one another, with them just flexing and passively burning the environment around them. But let's see whose aura is not only hotter, but who would win in a vs battle. Starting off, we have Portgas D Ace, the son of Gol D Roger and the holder of the Mera Mera No Mi. A Logia Devil Fruit that allows Ace to become the element of fire itself, making him intangible for those who don't have Haki. Haki by definition is just the spiritual energy that the user harnesses, which you could argue that's what pretty much Magic is in Fairy Tail, but regardless this point does not matter in the long run due to Natsu being able to hit intangible things. However, if Ace is way faster than the dragon slayer, he could simply never get hit by morphing around his attacks. Ace as well doesn't just shoot basic fire blasts, he can use things like Fire Fly which is a range of mini bombs that surround the enemy, covering a pretty decent range. He's got fire finger guns and crosses and spears. With the brother of the sun god out the way, let's now talk about the man related to the wizard of darkness, also known as Natsu Dragneel. Now Natsu is a Fire Dragon Slayer, which is a unique type of magic that allows him to specifically harm and well “Slay” Dragons.With his element being fire, this makes him not only resistant to most fire related attacks, but he can even EAT fire and increase his own power in return. Natsu can shoot all kinds of attacks ranging from basic fire punches and kicks, to making wings, breath attacks, and can coat specific parts of his body in fire. In terms of both Fire Power and Physical Strength? I'm afraid Ace falls a little short as well. Warming up something as big as drum island is impressive, but we have to remember Natsu had a passive heat aura that was melting stone and peoples clothes. This like Ace was a Natsu not necessarily trying, and Natsu himself would have an easier time dealing with Ace’s fire then Vice versa. The physical aspect is also kinda not fair since Ace mainly had one fight to show this off, which was against Blackbeard. We followed Natsu for the entire manga so it's kinda a given we would get more actual showings of his physical prowess. Fairy Tail is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Hiro Mashima. It was serialized in Kodansha's Weekly Shōnen Magazine from August 2006 to July 2017, with the individual chapters collected and published into 63 tankōbon volumes. The story follows the adventures of Natsu Dragneel, a member of the popular wizard[b] guild Fairy Tail, as he searches the fictional world of Earth-land for the dragon Igneel. With his pirate crew, the Straw Hat Pirates, Luffy explores the Grand Line in search of the deceased King of the Pirates Gol D. Roger's ultimate treasure known as the "One Piece" in order to become the next King of the Pirates. The manga spawned a media franchise, having been adapted into a festival film produced by Production I.G, and an anime series produced by Toei Animation, which began broadcasting in 1999. Additionally, Toei has developed fourteen animated feature films, one original video animation, and thirteen television specials. Several companies have developed various types of merchandising and media, such as a trading card game and numerous video games. One Piece has received praise for its storytelling, world-building, art, characterization, and humor. It has received many awards and is ranked by critics, reviewers, and readers as one of the best manga of all time. Several volumes of the manga have broken publishing records, including the highest initial print run of any book in Japan. In 2015 and 2022, One Piece set the Guinness World Record for "the most copies published for the same comic book series by a single author".
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#onepiece #fairytail #anime
Natsu needs his own black Air Force energy video, because the amount of shit he does in his own series is fucking insane.
He killed a god of war.
Structure fear into inanimate objects.
And burned the concept of time.
Natsu is kind of a white airforcer because of his personality gajeel gray or laxus would be more of a black airforce or even gildarts to some extent but he is savage
@@VileThaMercenaryNatsu legit would burn the world for his guild that mf definitely has black Air Force energy
@@VileThaMercenaryWhen he locks in he does. Multiple times he has threatened people to burn them to ashes and killed hundreds.
@@anime-rr6og I mean Goku has black airforce moments but he's still like a chill dude Natsu is the same way to me that's my reasoning Atleast but I could see an argument for him being black airforced
@@malcolms535 i think only a few people he's killed I don't think he's killed everyone he fought like he obviously killed Acnologia and maybe a couple fodder but only E.N.D would go and catch bodies and aldoron def got killed too
Natsu literally eats ace 😭
Pause
Calm down diddy
I wish I could eat Ace
@@Zsuper.mp4Pause
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Natsu literally eats bro for breakfast 💀
Natsu's battle iq is way too broken. For reference, when he fought Sting and Rogue, for less than 30 minutes, he deduced their fighting style, habits, footwork and breathing. After he said that he'll 1v2 them they legit never landed a clean hit on natsu
God bless this comment section and everyone accurately stating Natsu’s feats and just how much bro gives off Black Force Energy 👆🔥🔥
Natsu vs Ace is literally the most ONE-SIDED BULLYING I've ever seen. Just leave Ace alone and stop making him fight his natural predator XD.
I would be more interested in a Natsu vs Shinra matchup to be honest.
@@emmarod8746 Or maybe Natsu vs Arthur? Get a 'Knight vs Dragon' thing going on?
@@jahrusalem3658 That would also be a cool matchup to see.
“Natural Predator” is CRAZY lmao 😭🙏
I agree tho lol
@@emmarod8746Unless he pulls out the strongest version of END, Shinra shits on Natsu 9/10 times.
"isn't what you think"
- is what everyone thinks
It is very unfair though
Ace is a donut, Natsu ain't. Case closed
Natsu is about to become Katakuri then 💀
*not anymore
Zeref turned natsu into a donut for a few minutes tho😅
@@fandomgamer6240 then he sent zeref to the afterlife
I do remember thinking to myself there's alota fire users in anime who got the donut treatment I think it happened to Natsu twice lol he still bodies though
Natsu lowballed is as strong as Ace highballed to the extreme 😭😭😭😭
to be honest Ace was not highballed or lowballed here, it felt extremely accurate and again, the novels ARE canon
Natsu still bodies him of course, i just wanted to put respect on Ace's name ♤
EDIT: he even gave Ace basic armement and observation and said he couldn't use conqueror at will to make sure they would be no highball 🤷🏻
@@aanthonyy_ conquerors aura is useless against a main character, his will isnt weak
@@BadKarma1608 by conqueror I meant the coating, not the aura of course
@@aanthonyy_ ace most def cant use coating
@@BadKarma1608 my bad bro i didn't know you worked with Oda
Even tho fairy tail is hated by ppl it will always have a special place in my heart.( natsu solo one piece so bad)😭
No and I love fairy tail
@@redhairpirates4635 natsu would whoop every one in one piece so far because you can't include people like imu who don't have real feats. Off what we know so far natsu solos the verse
Narsu soloing one piece is a stretch ngl
@@IamG_ off what we've seen so far he solos because you can't count people with barely any feats like imu, dragon, shanks
@@IamG_he does, Natsu burnt through time twice dude, no one in piece even has feats exceeding island level explosions let alone reality shattering.
Nastu literaly is thanking akainu for this donut he’s been given tf u mean it isn’t what u think
I know you're joking but we both know Natsu wouldn't thank Akainu for that, in fact Akainu would make him made and would be the one to receive them fiery hands.
Natsu will turn around and eat him too. He's been shown to eat magma on chapter 71 cover page
@@malcolms535 natsu needs to stop eating things
@@numberhunter62 Akainu is not saved from that pending whooping from Natsu my brotha
@@malcolms535you know id be glad if natsu randomly hops in one piece and eats that MF
It’s even funnier because the “friendship power up” isn’t even a plot armor thing, it’s a canonical aspect to magic in verse, there’s multiple moments where someone talks about how Natsu’s magic gets stronger when his emotions get stronger
Basically, the more he rage, the more he get stronger😂
When Natsu met Ignia at the first time, Ignia just taunted Natsu that he will kill all Natsu friends, Natsu got angry, he punch Ignia will the Flames of Emotion. And Ignia can tank it easily🗿 (this is not even POF lmao)
The Lesson is, don't make Natsu angry, if you make him angry, he will burn the time itself😂
It's not just natsu, everyone does that. Remember when Zeref taught the first members of Fairy Tail? He said the stronger the emotion the stronger the magic. This is what most haters don't understand and just call it "power of friendship" uggh stupid.
@@Fish010 i really only bought up Natsu because it’s most noticeable for slayer types magic types for some reason
Fairy Tail Mages are also just actually connected with their power via their marks. Natsu does it the most often, but any member of the guild can use their mark to draw power from the rest of the guild, with limits.
Sounds like excuses for weak writing. What's next? Lucy becoming naked every fight was also crucial for the plot? Lmao
i've seen people argue about ace turning back while inside natsu and making him explode, sadly that doesn't take into account the flames being converted to magical energy
Funny outcome
it also doesn’t take into account that Natsu has LITERALLY eaten explosions before & tanked internal explosions
@@mezasepkmn bro would only say that it tasted like pork
@@mezasepkmn Didn't natsu eat raw aether crystals or something in the tower of heaven?
Never understood how Natsu could eat Ace just because he eats fire. Like, are fairy tail fans not reading One Piece. Natsu eats fire but that doesn't mean anything to a guy who is human and turns into the power Natsu uses
" Oh it's a difference Natsu turns it into magic " like how bias can fairy tail fans be
Natsu eats Ace and Ace and turns back into his human form 🤷🏻♂️. You don't need a brain to realize that. Neither can use fire abilities since they won't be affected. It will come down to strength and other factors
Natsu is just built different
natsus BASE flames were calc'd at 200 million degrees celcius.
for reference, the core of the sun is only 15 million degrees
ace doesn't stand a chance
And yet you'll have goons saying yamamoto wins
@@ijustloveerza1694 yams MAX is 15 million. that’s a light walk in warm sunshine for Natsu
From what you've just said the ground underneath them doesn't stand a chance.
@@DeadHaremGuy except this is fiction/anime so the ground only breaks when an attack is thrown
@@DeadHaremGuy Because Natsu has shown multiple times he can precisely control his flames
he tanned Ares perfectly
without harming her
Ace is so fucking cooked bro lowballed Natsu scales above ace and highballed is universal
Higher
Natsu is large planet level max.
@@rifter4478 I don't know about that he literally destroyed a dimension
@@rifter4478destroying dimensions, burning time and other concepts, outscaling/beating things that could kill literally everything with pure aura, need i say more?
a literal toddler vs hydrogen bomb is a closer match fr
No need to dawg on Ace like that lmaooo 😭
I do agree tho FairyTail and it’s users like Natsu do just have Black Force Energy 💯
Chef Akainu cooking up his Mera Mera No Donut dish for Natsu.
Feels nice when One Piece fans actually use their brain and realise why Fairy Tail is a home to some different level of monsters. I should explain this Fairy Tail doesn't have power of friendship. Let me explain Fairy Tail's magic power system is literally fueled on what sort of emotions you are feeling for example Master Hades's darkness felt so dominant and unending cuz that is the kind of depressing and nihilistic mindset he had turned into which amped his Forbidden magic. Similarly because of Natsu having so many emotional moments before fighting with Zeref example gray and him fighting, him thinking Lucy died, him realising that Makarov died so much pain and sorrow increased the turbulent nature of his magic and amped him up enough to even burn time though with a small price which was to set his own soul literally on fire so yeah 😂 Fairy Tail's magic system is very simple and complex at the same time. People misunderstand this a lot and then they think its some Hax bullshit or something but thats not the case. Emotions is the power system, the literal reason why Sting and Rogue loose to Natsu so easily is because neither of them had any reasoning behind their fight. The moment Lector was harmed by the Sabertooth master Sting literally opened a hole in his body thats literally how much the difference of Emotions bring.
I'm excited to see FT coming onto the channel
Natsu is immune to any fire that doesn't exceed his dragon fire (ace is just using normal class fire) and any fire that doesn't exceed natsu's, he can just eat as fuel. It not a question of power, because Ace literally cannot do anything against Natsu
Here's my rough explanation for fairy tail scaling I give people who down play it to hell.
There's a weapon shown in arc 3 known as Etherion, it's a giant magic space laser that is stated numerous times to just delete countries. (Some translations say continents and fairly late into the series when bringing up Alvarez and stuff but let's be fair and just say countries)
Acnologia is generally considered to easily eclipse the power of Etherion. With casual roars in dragon forms being stated to be of similar power or more. (With less charge time. Etherion is stated to take 20+ minutes to charge a single shot, while Acnologia produces similar with roughly 1/4 the time)
Then we get to fairy heart.
Something that the strongest human wizard Zeref absorbs and was stated multiple times to have INFINITE POWER. Something that can fire the country destroying laser infinitely no charge time or anything. Which is moderately proven when he starts manipulating space time at a whim and plans to go back in time with his new found power. Zeref states that even with Infinite Power he can't beat Acnologia.
Natsu starts beating or at least contending with guys with this tier of power pretty often.
Things get worse if we take other statements more literally such as Natsu, Zeref and Acnologia being above the concepts of space and time themselves. Hell, Wendy becomes an incredibly Potent Reality Warper with a high ball, fairy tails Dr Manhattan or Molecule Man
Or the fact Igneel is constantly downplayed despite the fact his only showing was with him not even having a proper body and soul and yet he would have one of the best feats in the franchise when he rips off Acnologia's arm and is also constantly refered to as powerful and hot as the sun.
Or other stuff like how Irene with prep wasn't even confident about stalling Acnologia but Igneel was certain he could potentially kill him immediately with no prep.
This fight has been obvious ever since it became a debate, but I still love the video and since you want to bring Fairy Tail to the channel you could do Gray vs Esdeath or Aokiji and Juvia vs Noelle Silva I think those fights would be fun to cover. Keep up the great work
@@DarkChillMisko99 I would love gray Vs esdeath, especially since I disagree with the death battle, Gray's cold resistance should be high enough to let him ignore esdeaths trump card
@@existentialchar he outstats Esdeath by a lot and can eat her ice to become stronger idk what Death Battle was on when they made her win it doesn’t make since and yea his resistance to the cold definitely protects him from her trump card
@@DarkChillMisko99 yep, her only chance to beat him is that she can stop time, but that gets stomped by the fact that it's not time but temperature based, and unless I remember wrong, in the manga tatsumi had enough cold resistance to go through it, so it's canon that cold res will bypass
@@existentialchar genuinely love seeing friendly, high-quality no hate match up convo’s like this 💯 God Bless y’all fr
I mean unless we’re hating on how Dogwater Death Battle can be at times 🗣️ lmao
@@existentialcharIt's time based. Gray stomps tho.
First and also WHAT THE FUCK💀 This is the most one sided match you’ve done
Most one-sided match he's done? Did you not see his "Could Frieza invade Viltrum?" video?
@andersonbrowne4781 even that's less one sided than this since it was namek frieza.
He said he just wanted to introduce fairy tail match ups to the channel.I think something like Sabo vs Natsu would’ve been better.Heck maybe Shanks vs Gildarts
@@zhavierbrown4422Still extremely unfair episode 1 Natsu might have been fair
@@xrim1139 typical fairy tail fan scaling their verse to ridiculous heights 💀
someone save my boy ace, he's getting cooked 😭
Glad to see Fairy Tail getting some scaling love! Would love to see more of it!
Broku, another scaler is going to also cover the verse
"That was a nice doughnut"
Natsu
Literally any Logia type DF vs a Dragon slayer is like giving the Dragon Slayers a snack
Natsu can burn through time and dimensions end of discussion
Also respect for indroducing fairy tail you a real one
My question can he burn fire
@kikor4954 I'm pretty sure been a while since I rewatch fairytail
@kikor4954 technically he could, but he'd be better off eating it
@@kikor4954he can eat it
@xXSolo_DaiXx right but if ace entered his mout PAUSE and reverted back to being a human before natsu swallowed him PAUSE AGAIN wouldn't natsus jaw explode
"Dragon donut mode" Lmao 💀
_"Death Battle's video came down to a type matchup. I wanna do something different."_
Video comes down to a type match-up.
bro did we watch the same video?
Literally bro
@@Tylearnedyou do realize that Ace's body made out of fire right cuz he's a Loggia type devil fruit user how the fuck is Natsu going to touch him let alone eat his fire it's like saying Natsu would just walk up in one piece and just beat everybody no he will not he won't even get past Blackbeard for example if Natsu was in the Dragon Ball verse how far will he fall
@@Tylearneddo you not realize that Ace can turn into fire would his devil fruit Powers so even if you say it don't matter unfortunately for you it does one hit for those fire attacks Natsu's done suck it I don't give a damn this video was biased anyway copying off death battle what they did a year ago
@@cjcj4861 "you do realize that Ace's body made out of fire right cuz he's a Loggia type devil fruit user" - so he turns into the the thing that Natsu eats, great he will just be like a walking donut.
"how the fuck is Natsu going to touch him let alone eat his fire" - easy, just like he has eaten fire and touched it for years.
"t's like saying Natsu would just walk up in one piece and just beat everybody" - no it is not. It just says that Natsu would beat Ace. He does beat One Piece as well btw.
"he won't even get past Blackbeard for example" - what will he do? Summon a black hole? The thing that Natsu burned years ago?
I see you are toxic, but you are an embarassment as well.
Natsu is eating Ace 😂
He solos the verse
I say a pause there man
I don't think Natsu can beat any of the pirate ships.
@@DeadHaremGuy I don't think 90% of the verse can survive a swimming pool
@@irrelevanttroll3312
LMAO
@@irrelevanttroll3312 The way I CACKLED 😭🙏
Natsu slams the verse in general lmao. Natsu is eating Ace like the doughnut he is 💀
Nah he really doesn't lol
@@Hayden-nd7oythere's not a single character in one piece that can beat natsu in a fight
@@Krypton2113 natsu is a large planet lvl fodder stop yappin luffy claps him
@@Hayden-nd7oy ratio💀 also Natsu claps. Natsu burnt through space and time and was able to move in a dimension where time stopped he's destroying luffy
@@Hayden-nd7oy COPE harder ain't no Way Natsu is losing to that Naruto victim 💀
“I’m not using some friendship amped natsu”
You act like he isn’t always amped by friemdship😂, this is one sided af
Like emotions is apart of magic in fairy tail it amps it. Those emotions come from their friends
I mean he isn’t always amped up by ‘the power of friendship’, when his aura was melting a literal colosseum he was just chilling and happily looking for a good fight lol
But also emotions amp up EVERY wizards power, so ofc same thing happens for Natsu.
there is no “amping”, canonically, magic is heavily influenced by the wielder’s emotions, there is nothing like “plot armour” when it’s literally how the rules of the verse work.
This is one of the most unfair fights
Thought this was gonna be one of THOSE typa vs battle videos
One thing that needs to be mentioned is that the final fight against Agnalogia was outside of time meaning any character that moved even a millimeter in that fight is faster than time.
Additionally, since according to the author, the filler is canon that means we can scale using the eclipse celestial spirit arc but a bunch of characters as being able to move interstellar distances in little time.
Hope you do more Fairy Tail stuff in the future
W vid as always
More fairy tail videos please, it’s hard asf to find people out there who like fairy tail, much less talk about it, W video btw🙏🏾
Next you should do natsu vs the one piece verse maybe that'll be a fair fight 💀🙏
no it won't r.i.p one piece💀
One piece is obliterating natsu
@@kikor4954 no it's really not
@@kikor4954 boi yo be ✨️GLAZING✨️
@@Krypton2113 isn't natsu large planetary
Nobody asked but want it. I love fairy tail, i have the ice devil slayer mark as a tattoo.
BELIE!
Dragon donut mode! 😂😂
Thats tattoo is actually mad cool.
Crazy how fairy tail still going on and it's still mad fun to watch.
More interested in Luffy vs Natsu to be honest. One thing I can say about Fairy Tail is that the verse is decently strong.
Honestly, OP is cooked. Just flames of Natsu reach the sun temp. If you have seen the video of what happens when we bring a piece of the sun to earth, you would know OP getting destroyed since a peice can do that much, never mind a continously source of it.
Also decently strong, you mean a nearly universal verse? Although Zeref and Acnologia make more than 50% of the fairy tail verse strength.
@kingofwinggaming natsu's flames can reach temps way way higher than the sun.
It's been stated to be above 200 million degrees Celsius. The sun is 5499 degrees and it's core is 15 million degrees Celsius.
Natsu's flames are at least 36 thousand times hotter than the surface of the sun
@@Jet-ij9zc I am not well kept on FT scaling but if that is true, he is blowing apart OP verse just by breathing a bit of flames.
Luffy’s rubber cannot withstand 200 million degree fire, he actually gets vaporized with one roar 😭
Natsu slams let’s be honest base to base it equal but then Natsu has access to amps like lighting flame clock and dragon force mode
Don’t be delusional base to base Natsu is one shotting anyone in the verse💀
@@Kinty495 yo do you actually think his base can cook the entire verse?
No hate btw, I love FairyTail but have only seen clips of One Piece’s achievements and they looks Dope af too. I don’t mind for spoilers btw but yea I’m just wondering if you think Natsu’s base really solos the verse /gen 👆
@@AshunshwgarsBlade yes I do
@@Kinty495 honestly I’ve looked around and it seems like that’s a pretty popular opinion when taking into account Natsu’s fears apparently lol
i think the discussion of if Natsu has the ability to eat Ace is way more interesting than who wins
It's very likely Natsu could eat Ace. We see him begin to devour Atlas Flame in the Grand Magic Games, a dragon composed entirely of Hellfire, so there shouldn't really be any problem with him eating Ace's fiery body.
@@Kuithehybridfax
Natsu can eat any fire
Except his own fire
@@joshbrosh6626 fax
@@joshbrosh6626 actully. he CAN eat his own fire, it just won't do anything for him
I'm starting be amazed about how many characters in Manga moves fast enough to destroy the Earth several times over just by Movement.
While fighting hand to hand at a clear normal speed level of martial artists.
These light speed feats man.
Tylearned PLEASE DO LUFFY FOR ASTA I KEEP HEARING ABT THIS BUT I WANT IT FROM THE PROFESSIONAL
You're saying that the guy who eats fire beats the guy who is made of fire? Insane.
/j, good video
Base 100 years natsu negs the op vers
You forgot to mention that in alverez, Base Natsu was able to melt invel's ice which Invel said only nuclear fission levels of heat was able to due
Meaning Natsu's heat temperature is minimum 13 suns💀
This actually lowballs both Natsu and Ace. You’re correct that Natsu is stronger but Natsu scales much higher than any of the feats you brought up and Ace actually is quite proficient in Haki thanks to the novels/chapter of A, not that it’ll save him from Natsu
“I’ve got to introduce FairyTail onto the channel somehow”
And you, good sir, have just earned another sub 👆🔥🔥
Natsu folds
didnt realize you had the script in the description, pretty cool ngl
Power of Friendship
Name me one moment when fairy tail used power of friendship
I always found it funny watching the old video seeing how somehow all the OP fans were so mad natsu won when its such common sence, now ive never watched OP and never will but even the old video described his abilities and when i hear he transforms into natsus MEAL i knew bro was cooked- OP fans never shut up sometimes honestly i was so ready to be annoyed abt someone else saying natsu would loose but i thank you for dimming it down for thoes in the back
Natsu one shots
One very important thing. Natsu is COMPLETELY immune to fire, so Ace’s devil fruit, literally doesn’t hurt Natsu at all, in fact, it makes Natsu stronger if he eats Ace’s fire. Finally, Natsu’s flames are hotter than Ace’s because after the one year time skip, Natsu melted an entire Colosseum. He can burn almost everyone’s cloth (except this own) just by being there, he doesn’t even need to touch people. I have never seen Ace’s flames do that, so Natsu’s flames are like magma face from Once Piece and Natsu would win. If you want to have a long conversation with me about this, we can take it to discord.
The Fairy Tail universe is way stronger but One Piece is undoubtedly a way better written series.
@@canasdad9115 I can agree with that, although I probably love fairy tail more than I love one piece, simply becausd fairy tail is special to me
Natsu to Ace: (Smirks) "I was feelin' hungry! Get over here boy!"
natsu is a eater today
oh about the 7 kings attack, that wasnt even the flames of emotion in effect, let alone plot armor, it was actually one of wendy's enchantments, she directly states she enchants natsu with all of the dragon slayers power in the middle of that fight, tho i do think the flames of emotion was procced during that attack which is most likely the push it needed to actually kill achnologia
Alabasta luffy vs hisoka lowkey a clean fight🙏🏽
The fairy tail verse is a lot more powerful and larger than one piece. They even have there one version of a multiverse with different versions of the characters from different realms.
OMG MY GOAT IS COOKINGGG BRO IM LITERALLY COOKIN A VID OF NATSU N LUFFY SWAPPING FIGHTS
No disrespect, cool video, but I wanted to point out a couple things. If the character you meant at 8:40 was Suzaku, Erza has never blitzed him... ever. He blitzed Erza, with her even being able to react being the peak of what she's able to do. She's taken on arguably stronger enemies since, but she never "blitzed him 30 times over." Also, when you mentioned lightspeed characters, you mentioned Suzaku, but showed Haku, though both are incredibly fast; the former being able to attack faster than the eye can see and the latter being said to be as fast as or around as fast as the speed of light. So either could've worked here.
I will say, I respect that some find Natsu's boosts to be BS. But we have to remember, Natsu early on is established to have the Flames of Emotion which grow in strength with his emotions like how Hulk's strength increases with his anger. This is how his Magic is established to work so in my opinion, it'd be BS if they didn't work the way they did, but I respect if people disagree. Also, I don't know if you could argue Magic in Fairy Tail is the spiritual energy Mages harness. That could play into it, but Magic in Fairy Tail is basically the byproduct released from the body based on Magic Power, which comes from an atmospheric particle known as Ethernano absorbed into an organ known as the Magic Container.
Again, not tryna be a strickler or disrespectful. Cool vid overall!!!
The battle could be very close and depend on the circumstances. Natsu's ability to consume fire could give him the upper hand in dealing with Ace’s attacks, while Ace’s intangibility and powerful fire-based techniques would challenge Natsu. The environment and strategy would play crucial roles in determining the victor.
Nothing depends on any circumstances. Natsu has way higher scaling and Ace's attacks won't do any damage, while all of Natsu's attack will connect because he can eat and touch fire and has fire way above the magma that burned Ace in canon.
This shouldn't even be a debate in 2024.
Fun fact: Natsu’s flames are even hotter than that! Invel has said that Natsu is the only person (that he knew of, since he didn’t know Ignia) That could melt his ice! That includes Wall, who has Magic Confinement Fusion, which was said to be a magic equivalent to 200 million degrees Celsius!
Ace: Man, it's cold out here, I should warm myself up.
*Proceeds to heat up an entire Island enough for it to not snow for days.*
While this is definitely an overkill thing to mention (and could be argued to just be overwanking natsu’s power), using certain statements and feats towards the end of the manga, natsu’s base flames can be calc’d to around or even above 200m degrees Celsius.
Another thing to note is that these statements come from OG Fairy Tail, meaning at the current point in 100yq natsu has most likely far surpassed these calcs
Natsu season one is enough to defeat Ace, he has golden flames that burn magic and he has Laxus lightning and he can burn Ultear's time possibilities and transform into Dragon Force and eat fire
I think Ace vs Engine (unburn from undead unluck) is a better question. Could or couldn't Engine remove Ace from existence if Ace is literally a fire?
Natsu packs up the entire verse in his base form btw 😭
@@rakimovich-361 The guy who burnt through time and literally defeated dragons is getting stopped by a Haki merchant? 😭
Natsu going into the fight with a bib on in preparation for the buffet he's gonna enjoy.
Ace always served me as "who should be the Chosen One" archetype due to his genes and was always going to be a motivational character for Luffy to grow as a character. As a fighter, he's average and against Natsu who thought eating all kinds of fire is just fire to Natsu, it's over for *Krispy Kreme* Donut boy
Im happy this is just them in base because otherwise it wouldn't be fair
Something interesting you didn't mention is that, if Natsu ate Ace then Ace would end up possessing him and taking over his body.
That's because Oda explained in SBS 71 that this exact thing would happen if someone were to ever eat Aokiji.
Also, when it comes to heat scaling, Kuma's laser could instantly melt a big metal cross a dozen meters away on impact. And despite that, when using the very same lasers in Marineford, they couldn't even begin to soften or even crack Aokiji's ice. Even Kizaru implied that he couldn't melt it when the incircling wall was blocked by the ice (Chap. 564). And yet Ace literally melted a giant chunk of that ice in a few seconds at most (Chap. 572).
It could even burn right through Jinbei's haki like it was said in the novel. But yeah, it doesn't reach Natsu's level for now.
Natsu unironically would burn thru him bro😭 he’s not possessing anything
Fire natsu eats instantly gets turned into magic
Found it on Reddit, which isn't the best source for translation but it's what I got, and it says that aokiji could turn back and take control of the body, so it's not possession in ghost terms, but using someone's body as a meat puppet, which could fr just be out muscled if ace didn't become part of natsu's magic energy reserves
@@Cipher_Paul Ace gets converted into magic power sadly
Fairy tail added.
Though his power up modes SHOULD'VE been included
One is the main character, the other isn't. One has fire powers, the other eats fire and has fire powers. One got a hole punched through them, one punched a god to death. I think it's safe to say that it isn't a fair fight.
Ive been waiting for the longest of times for someone to actually scale fairy tail properly
Magic in Fairy Tail is bound to your life, body and soul. Not only that, but the origin is love and gues what friendship is.
Because magic is bound to the entity completely it is shown how emotions and the feelings of the heart have the effect to fuel magic power.
So the "power of friendship" bs is not bs. A lot of things have been shown to have ties to love and your heart.
-Law
-Fairy Law
-Fairy Sphere
-contracts between celestial spirit and wizard
-magic power
-Natsu's flames
-Juvia's boiling water and effecting the rain
-why Igneel couldn't kill E.N.D.
-Fairy Heart
-Lucy's mom sais love is the origin of magic
-the curse of Mavis and Zeref
-Unison Raid
And i can keep going hahaha
Erza is the Beerus of Fairy Tail. The eternally moving goalpost that will always be stronger than Natsu. I'd ask for a matchup against Shanks or Mihawk, but maybe Kaido makes more sense, seeing as he has more quantifiable feats
2:03
just so you understand it a little more. ace used conquers haki (not the same as regular haki). this doesn't mean he knows how to coat his body and harden it with haki. just simply means his conq haki peaks during stressful emotion events giving him the ability to incapacitate people weaker than him. durring marine ford his conq haki would have been useless and theres also the fact luffy had already used his and incapacitated most of the marines. the ability ace used as a kid isnt the same a regular haki thats typically used in the show.
so it WAS what everyone thinks?
goats just do goat stuff man, what can i say
Death Battle isn't actual research its mostly based on popularity where unless its is glaringly obvious which character wins based on stats the more popular character will end up winning
Natsu can eat any fire except his own fire , so it is basically one sided match. And oh by the way ,can u do laxus vs enel?
I can't wait for the Erza vs Zoro vid
dragon donut mode is diabolical, and I think part of natsu's ability to burn thing is the magic behind it more than the concept itself.
Well, it has been said that The Space Between time is a concept and that is an entity different from power, which is what magic is. So Natsu burning concept has nothing to do with magic.
@@borislavborisov2117 fair enough
“Power of friendship?” Isn’t natsu flames based on his emotions? And he gets stronger the more fired up or angry he is
Natsu is way stronger than people realize.
Like you said, he can burn concepts like time and space itself. He burned through time against the goddess of time and when fighting Zeref. (Zeref literally quoted something like: "his flames can burn space and time itself?"
One shotted a god of war.
One shot Zeref in his god/immortality mode (granted, zeref did turn back time to 'revive' himself, but he still one tapped him out of existence).
He also dried up an entire lake with just his body heat by just preparing an attack (against that spriggan guy).
He 1v2'd dragon slayers in their Dragon Force which amplifies their magic power by multiple times. IN HIS BASE FORM
Bro. is. a. menace.
Who wins the fight, the guy imune to fire damage that eats fire, or the guy who turns into fire?
Like Natsu tried to eat a fire dragon once, what other conclusion could there be than Natzu eats Ace alive?
As soon as I saw natsu I knew this would be a complete wash
Hey I just found your channel, I Like the video. I'm a fan of DB, Could you do Erza vs Zorro too?
The only awnser to this question is omnomnom
I’m glad you’re covering fairy tail🎉🎉🎉 it’s amazing
dragon donut mode is wild
A large planet level pink hair character vs a Multi-Continent level to Moon level ACE, geez I wonder who would win
Natsu’s fire can burn time. Aside from the fact that he’d just eat ace for lunch, he could probably burn Ace’s fire because if burning time isn’t off limits, burning fire certainly isn’t.
7:58 its not bs giving power to one person isnt a new idea.
2. It took everyone magic power to beat him 1 for fairy sphere 2 slayers for the slaying.
3. They used dragon slayers one weakness motion sickness which made achnilogia unable to block it.
“Dragon doughnut mod” 😂 ouch no respect
Natsu vs Flame-Filled Donut 💀