Natsu needs his own black Air Force energy video, because the amount of shit he does in his own series is fucking insane. He killed a god of war. Structure fear into inanimate objects. And burned the concept of time.
Natsu is kind of a white airforcer because of his personality gajeel gray or laxus would be more of a black airforce or even gildarts to some extent but he is savage
@@anime-rr6og I mean Goku has black airforce moments but he's still like a chill dude Natsu is the same way to me that's my reasoning Atleast but I could see an argument for him being black airforced
@@malcolms535 i think only a few people he's killed I don't think he's killed everyone he fought like he obviously killed Acnologia and maybe a couple fodder but only E.N.D would go and catch bodies and aldoron def got killed too
I do remember thinking to myself there's alota fire users in anime who got the donut treatment I think it happened to Natsu twice lol he still bodies though
Natsu's battle iq is way too broken. For reference, when he fought Sting and Rogue, for less than 30 minutes, he deduced their fighting style, habits, footwork and breathing. After he said that he'll 1v2 them they legit never landed a clean hit on natsu
I know you're joking but we both know Natsu wouldn't thank Akainu for that, in fact Akainu would make him made and would be the one to receive them fiery hands.
i've seen people argue about ace turning back while inside natsu and making him explode, sadly that doesn't take into account the flames being converted to magical energy
Never understood how Natsu could eat Ace just because he eats fire. Like, are fairy tail fans not reading One Piece. Natsu eats fire but that doesn't mean anything to a guy who is human and turns into the power Natsu uses " Oh it's a difference Natsu turns it into magic " like how bias can fairy tail fans be Natsu eats Ace and Ace and turns back into his human form 🤷🏻♂️. You don't need a brain to realize that. Neither can use fire abilities since they won't be affected. It will come down to strength and other factors
It’s even funnier because the “friendship power up” isn’t even a plot armor thing, it’s a canonical aspect to magic in verse, there’s multiple moments where someone talks about how Natsu’s magic gets stronger when his emotions get stronger
Basically, the more he rage, the more he get stronger😂 When Natsu met Ignia at the first time, Ignia just taunted Natsu that he will kill all Natsu friends, Natsu got angry, he punch Ignia will the Flames of Emotion. And Ignia can tank it easily🗿 (this is not even POF lmao) The Lesson is, don't make Natsu angry, if you make him angry, he will burn the time itself😂
It's not just natsu, everyone does that. Remember when Zeref taught the first members of Fairy Tail? He said the stronger the emotion the stronger the magic. This is what most haters don't understand and just call it "power of friendship" uggh stupid.
Fairy Tail Mages are also just actually connected with their power via their marks. Natsu does it the most often, but any member of the guild can use their mark to draw power from the rest of the guild, with limits.
to be honest Ace was not highballed or lowballed here, it felt extremely accurate and again, the novels ARE canon Natsu still bodies him of course, i just wanted to put respect on Ace's name ♤ EDIT: he even gave Ace basic armement and observation and said he couldn't use conqueror at will to make sure they would be no highball 🤷🏻
@@redhairpirates4635 natsu would whoop every one in one piece so far because you can't include people like imu who don't have real feats. Off what we know so far natsu solos the verse
@@riftmaker4478destroying dimensions, burning time and other concepts, outscaling/beating things that could kill literally everything with pure aura, need i say more?
natsus BASE flames were calc'd at 200 million degrees celcius. for reference, the core of the sun is only 15 million degrees ace doesn't stand a chance
This fight has been obvious ever since it became a debate, but I still love the video and since you want to bring Fairy Tail to the channel you could do Gray vs Esdeath or Aokiji and Juvia vs Noelle Silva I think those fights would be fun to cover. Keep up the great work
@@DarkChillMisko99 I would love gray Vs esdeath, especially since I disagree with the death battle, Gray's cold resistance should be high enough to let him ignore esdeaths trump card
@@existentialchar he outstats Esdeath by a lot and can eat her ice to become stronger idk what Death Battle was on when they made her win it doesn’t make since and yea his resistance to the cold definitely protects him from her trump card
@@DarkChillMisko99 yep, her only chance to beat him is that she can stop time, but that gets stomped by the fact that it's not time but temperature based, and unless I remember wrong, in the manga tatsumi had enough cold resistance to go through it, so it's canon that cold res will bypass
@@existentialchar genuinely love seeing friendly, high-quality no hate match up convo’s like this 💯 God Bless y’all fr I mean unless we’re hating on how Dogwater Death Battle can be at times 🗣️ lmao
Natsu is immune to any fire that doesn't exceed his dragon fire (ace is just using normal class fire) and any fire that doesn't exceed natsu's, he can just eat as fuel. It not a question of power, because Ace literally cannot do anything against Natsu
Here's my rough explanation for fairy tail scaling I give people who down play it to hell. There's a weapon shown in arc 3 known as Etherion, it's a giant magic space laser that is stated numerous times to just delete countries. (Some translations say continents and fairly late into the series when bringing up Alvarez and stuff but let's be fair and just say countries) Acnologia is generally considered to easily eclipse the power of Etherion. With casual roars in dragon forms being stated to be of similar power or more. (With less charge time. Etherion is stated to take 20+ minutes to charge a single shot, while Acnologia produces similar with roughly 1/4 the time) Then we get to fairy heart. Something that the strongest human wizard Zeref absorbs and was stated multiple times to have INFINITE POWER. Something that can fire the country destroying laser infinitely no charge time or anything. Which is moderately proven when he starts manipulating space time at a whim and plans to go back in time with his new found power. Zeref states that even with Infinite Power he can't beat Acnologia. Natsu starts beating or at least contending with guys with this tier of power pretty often. Things get worse if we take other statements more literally such as Natsu, Zeref and Acnologia being above the concepts of space and time themselves. Hell, Wendy becomes an incredibly Potent Reality Warper with a high ball, fairy tails Dr Manhattan or Molecule Man Or the fact Igneel is constantly downplayed despite the fact his only showing was with him not even having a proper body and soul and yet he would have one of the best feats in the franchise when he rips off Acnologia's arm and is also constantly refered to as powerful and hot as the sun. Or other stuff like how Irene with prep wasn't even confident about stalling Acnologia but Igneel was certain he could potentially kill him immediately with no prep.
@@Tylearnedyou do realize that Ace's body made out of fire right cuz he's a Loggia type devil fruit user how the fuck is Natsu going to touch him let alone eat his fire it's like saying Natsu would just walk up in one piece and just beat everybody no he will not he won't even get past Blackbeard for example if Natsu was in the Dragon Ball verse how far will he fall
@@Tylearneddo you not realize that Ace can turn into fire would his devil fruit Powers so even if you say it don't matter unfortunately for you it does one hit for those fire attacks Natsu's done suck it I don't give a damn this video was biased anyway copying off death battle what they did a year ago
@@cjcj4861 "you do realize that Ace's body made out of fire right cuz he's a Loggia type devil fruit user" - so he turns into the the thing that Natsu eats, great he will just be like a walking donut. "how the fuck is Natsu going to touch him let alone eat his fire" - easy, just like he has eaten fire and touched it for years. "t's like saying Natsu would just walk up in one piece and just beat everybody" - no it is not. It just says that Natsu would beat Ace. He does beat One Piece as well btw. "he won't even get past Blackbeard for example" - what will he do? Summon a black hole? The thing that Natsu burned years ago? I see you are toxic, but you are an embarassment as well.
@xXSolo_DaiXx right but if ace entered his mout PAUSE and reverted back to being a human before natsu swallowed him PAUSE AGAIN wouldn't natsus jaw explode
Feels nice when One Piece fans actually use their brain and realise why Fairy Tail is a home to some different level of monsters. I should explain this Fairy Tail doesn't have power of friendship. Let me explain Fairy Tail's magic power system is literally fueled on what sort of emotions you are feeling for example Master Hades's darkness felt so dominant and unending cuz that is the kind of depressing and nihilistic mindset he had turned into which amped his Forbidden magic. Similarly because of Natsu having so many emotional moments before fighting with Zeref example gray and him fighting, him thinking Lucy died, him realising that Makarov died so much pain and sorrow increased the turbulent nature of his magic and amped him up enough to even burn time though with a small price which was to set his own soul literally on fire so yeah 😂 Fairy Tail's magic system is very simple and complex at the same time. People misunderstand this a lot and then they think its some Hax bullshit or something but thats not the case. Emotions is the power system, the literal reason why Sting and Rogue loose to Natsu so easily is because neither of them had any reasoning behind their fight. The moment Lector was harmed by the Sabertooth master Sting literally opened a hole in his body thats literally how much the difference of Emotions bring.
He said he just wanted to introduce fairy tail match ups to the channel.I think something like Sabo vs Natsu would’ve been better.Heck maybe Shanks vs Gildarts
One thing that needs to be mentioned is that the final fight against Agnalogia was outside of time meaning any character that moved even a millimeter in that fight is faster than time. Additionally, since according to the author, the filler is canon that means we can scale using the eclipse celestial spirit arc but a bunch of characters as being able to move interstellar distances in little time.
I mean he isn’t always amped up by ‘the power of friendship’, when his aura was melting a literal colosseum he was just chilling and happily looking for a good fight lol But also emotions amp up EVERY wizards power, so ofc same thing happens for Natsu.
there is no “amping”, canonically, magic is heavily influenced by the wielder’s emotions, there is nothing like “plot armour” when it’s literally how the rules of the verse work.
@@Hayden-nd7oy ratio💀 also Natsu claps. Natsu burnt through space and time and was able to move in a dimension where time stopped he's destroying luffy
I'm starting be amazed about how many characters in Manga moves fast enough to destroy the Earth several times over just by Movement. While fighting hand to hand at a clear normal speed level of martial artists. These light speed feats man.
@@Kinty495 yo do you actually think his base can cook the entire verse? No hate btw, I love FairyTail but have only seen clips of One Piece’s achievements and they looks Dope af too. I don’t mind for spoilers btw but yea I’m just wondering if you think Natsu’s base really solos the verse /gen 👆
Honestly, OP is cooked. Just flames of Natsu reach the sun temp. If you have seen the video of what happens when we bring a piece of the sun to earth, you would know OP getting destroyed since a peice can do that much, never mind a continously source of it. Also decently strong, you mean a nearly universal verse? Although Zeref and Acnologia make more than 50% of the fairy tail verse strength.
@kingofwinggaming natsu's flames can reach temps way way higher than the sun. It's been stated to be above 200 million degrees Celsius. The sun is 5499 degrees and it's core is 15 million degrees Celsius. Natsu's flames are at least 36 thousand times hotter than the surface of the sun
You forgot to mention that in alverez, Base Natsu was able to melt invel's ice which Invel said only nuclear fission levels of heat was able to due Meaning Natsu's heat temperature is minimum 13 suns💀
It's very likely Natsu could eat Ace. We see him begin to devour Atlas Flame in the Grand Magic Games, a dragon composed entirely of Hellfire, so there shouldn't really be any problem with him eating Ace's fiery body.
The fairy tail verse is a lot more powerful and larger than one piece. They even have there one version of a multiverse with different versions of the characters from different realms.
This actually lowballs both Natsu and Ace. You’re correct that Natsu is stronger but Natsu scales much higher than any of the feats you brought up and Ace actually is quite proficient in Haki thanks to the novels/chapter of A, not that it’ll save him from Natsu
No disrespect, cool video, but I wanted to point out a couple things. If the character you meant at 8:40 was Suzaku, Erza has never blitzed him... ever. He blitzed Erza, with her even being able to react being the peak of what she's able to do. She's taken on arguably stronger enemies since, but she never "blitzed him 30 times over." Also, when you mentioned lightspeed characters, you mentioned Suzaku, but showed Haku, though both are incredibly fast; the former being able to attack faster than the eye can see and the latter being said to be as fast as or around as fast as the speed of light. So either could've worked here. I will say, I respect that some find Natsu's boosts to be BS. But we have to remember, Natsu early on is established to have the Flames of Emotion which grow in strength with his emotions like how Hulk's strength increases with his anger. This is how his Magic is established to work so in my opinion, it'd be BS if they didn't work the way they did, but I respect if people disagree. Also, I don't know if you could argue Magic in Fairy Tail is the spiritual energy Mages harness. That could play into it, but Magic in Fairy Tail is basically the byproduct released from the body based on Magic Power, which comes from an atmospheric particle known as Ethernano absorbed into an organ known as the Magic Container. Again, not tryna be a strickler or disrespectful. Cool vid overall!!!
oh about the 7 kings attack, that wasnt even the flames of emotion in effect, let alone plot armor, it was actually one of wendy's enchantments, she directly states she enchants natsu with all of the dragon slayers power in the middle of that fight, tho i do think the flames of emotion was procced during that attack which is most likely the push it needed to actually kill achnologia
One is the main character, the other isn't. One has fire powers, the other eats fire and has fire powers. One got a hole punched through them, one punched a god to death. I think it's safe to say that it isn't a fair fight.
2:03 just so you understand it a little more. ace used conquers haki (not the same as regular haki). this doesn't mean he knows how to coat his body and harden it with haki. just simply means his conq haki peaks during stressful emotion events giving him the ability to incapacitate people weaker than him. durring marine ford his conq haki would have been useless and theres also the fact luffy had already used his and incapacitated most of the marines. the ability ace used as a kid isnt the same a regular haki thats typically used in the show.
The battle could be very close and depend on the circumstances. Natsu's ability to consume fire could give him the upper hand in dealing with Ace’s attacks, while Ace’s intangibility and powerful fire-based techniques would challenge Natsu. The environment and strategy would play crucial roles in determining the victor.
Nothing depends on any circumstances. Natsu has way higher scaling and Ace's attacks won't do any damage, while all of Natsu's attack will connect because he can eat and touch fire and has fire way above the magma that burned Ace in canon. This shouldn't even be a debate in 2024.
Fun fact: Natsu’s flames are even hotter than that! Invel has said that Natsu is the only person (that he knew of, since he didn’t know Ignia) That could melt his ice! That includes Wall, who has Magic Confinement Fusion, which was said to be a magic equivalent to 200 million degrees Celsius!
I always found it funny watching the old video seeing how somehow all the OP fans were so mad natsu won when its such common sence, now ive never watched OP and never will but even the old video described his abilities and when i hear he transforms into natsus MEAL i knew bro was cooked- OP fans never shut up sometimes honestly i was so ready to be annoyed abt someone else saying natsu would loose but i thank you for dimming it down for thoes in the back
Death Battle isn't actual research its mostly based on popularity where unless its is glaringly obvious which character wins based on stats the more popular character will end up winning
One very important thing. Natsu is COMPLETELY immune to fire, so Ace’s devil fruit, literally doesn’t hurt Natsu at all, in fact, it makes Natsu stronger if he eats Ace’s fire. Finally, Natsu’s flames are hotter than Ace’s because after the one year time skip, Natsu melted an entire Colosseum. He can burn almost everyone’s cloth (except this own) just by being there, he doesn’t even need to touch people. I have never seen Ace’s flames do that, so Natsu’s flames are like magma face from Once Piece and Natsu would win. If you want to have a long conversation with me about this, we can take it to discord.
While this is definitely an overkill thing to mention (and could be argued to just be overwanking natsu’s power), using certain statements and feats towards the end of the manga, natsu’s base flames can be calc’d to around or even above 200m degrees Celsius. Another thing to note is that these statements come from OG Fairy Tail, meaning at the current point in 100yq natsu has most likely far surpassed these calcs
Ace always served me as "who should be the Chosen One" archetype due to his genes and was always going to be a motivational character for Luffy to grow as a character. As a fighter, he's average and against Natsu who thought eating all kinds of fire is just fire to Natsu, it's over for *Krispy Kreme* Donut boy
Well, it has been said that The Space Between time is a concept and that is an entity different from power, which is what magic is. So Natsu burning concept has nothing to do with magic.
Natsu needs his own black Air Force energy video, because the amount of shit he does in his own series is fucking insane.
He killed a god of war.
Structure fear into inanimate objects.
And burned the concept of time.
Natsu is kind of a white airforcer because of his personality gajeel gray or laxus would be more of a black airforce or even gildarts to some extent but he is savage
@@VileThaMercenaryNatsu legit would burn the world for his guild that mf definitely has black Air Force energy
@@VileThaMercenaryWhen he locks in he does. Multiple times he has threatened people to burn them to ashes and killed hundreds.
@@anime-rr6og I mean Goku has black airforce moments but he's still like a chill dude Natsu is the same way to me that's my reasoning Atleast but I could see an argument for him being black airforced
@@malcolms535 i think only a few people he's killed I don't think he's killed everyone he fought like he obviously killed Acnologia and maybe a couple fodder but only E.N.D would go and catch bodies and aldoron def got killed too
"isn't what you think"
- is what everyone thinks
It is very unfair though
Natsu literally eats bro for breakfast 💀
Natsu literally eats ace 😭
Pause
Calm down diddy
I wish I could eat Ace
@@Zsuper.mp4Pause
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Ace is a donut, Natsu ain't. Case closed
Natsu is about to become Katakuri then 💀
*not anymore
Zeref turned natsu into a donut for a few minutes tho😅
@@fandomgamer6240 then he sent zeref to the afterlife
I do remember thinking to myself there's alota fire users in anime who got the donut treatment I think it happened to Natsu twice lol he still bodies though
Natsu vs Ace is literally the most ONE-SIDED BULLYING I've ever seen. Just leave Ace alone and stop making him fight his natural predator XD.
I would be more interested in a Natsu vs Shinra matchup to be honest.
@@emmarod8746 Or maybe Natsu vs Arthur? Get a 'Knight vs Dragon' thing going on?
@@TheRedMan77 That would also be a cool matchup to see.
“Natural Predator” is CRAZY lmao 😭🙏
I agree tho lol
@@emmarod8746Unless he pulls out the strongest version of END, Shinra shits on Natsu 9/10 times.
Natsu's battle iq is way too broken. For reference, when he fought Sting and Rogue, for less than 30 minutes, he deduced their fighting style, habits, footwork and breathing. After he said that he'll 1v2 them they legit never landed a clean hit on natsu
God bless this comment section and everyone accurately stating Natsu’s feats and just how much bro gives off Black Force Energy 👆🔥🔥
@@AshunshwgarsBlade ok thats some pure unbridled bs (i aint saying its false.)
Nastu literaly is thanking akainu for this donut he’s been given tf u mean it isn’t what u think
I know you're joking but we both know Natsu wouldn't thank Akainu for that, in fact Akainu would make him made and would be the one to receive them fiery hands.
Natsu will turn around and eat him too. He's been shown to eat magma on chapter 71 cover page
@@malcolms535 natsu needs to stop eating things
@@numberhunter62 Akainu is not saved from that pending whooping from Natsu my brotha
@@malcolms535you know id be glad if natsu randomly hops in one piece and eats that MF
i've seen people argue about ace turning back while inside natsu and making him explode, sadly that doesn't take into account the flames being converted to magical energy
Funny outcome
it also doesn’t take into account that Natsu has LITERALLY eaten explosions before & tanked internal explosions
@@mezasepkmn bro would only say that it tasted like pork
@@mezasepkmn Didn't natsu eat raw aether crystals or something in the tower of heaven?
Never understood how Natsu could eat Ace just because he eats fire. Like, are fairy tail fans not reading One Piece. Natsu eats fire but that doesn't mean anything to a guy who is human and turns into the power Natsu uses
" Oh it's a difference Natsu turns it into magic " like how bias can fairy tail fans be
Natsu eats Ace and Ace and turns back into his human form 🤷🏻♂️. You don't need a brain to realize that. Neither can use fire abilities since they won't be affected. It will come down to strength and other factors
It’s even funnier because the “friendship power up” isn’t even a plot armor thing, it’s a canonical aspect to magic in verse, there’s multiple moments where someone talks about how Natsu’s magic gets stronger when his emotions get stronger
Basically, the more he rage, the more he get stronger😂
When Natsu met Ignia at the first time, Ignia just taunted Natsu that he will kill all Natsu friends, Natsu got angry, he punch Ignia will the Flames of Emotion. And Ignia can tank it easily🗿 (this is not even POF lmao)
The Lesson is, don't make Natsu angry, if you make him angry, he will burn the time itself😂
It's not just natsu, everyone does that. Remember when Zeref taught the first members of Fairy Tail? He said the stronger the emotion the stronger the magic. This is what most haters don't understand and just call it "power of friendship" uggh stupid.
@@Fish010 i really only bought up Natsu because it’s most noticeable for slayer types magic types for some reason
Fairy Tail Mages are also just actually connected with their power via their marks. Natsu does it the most often, but any member of the guild can use their mark to draw power from the rest of the guild, with limits.
Sounds like excuses for weak writing. What's next? Lucy becoming naked every fight was also crucial for the plot? Lmao
Natsu lowballed is as strong as Ace highballed to the extreme 😭😭😭😭
to be honest Ace was not highballed or lowballed here, it felt extremely accurate and again, the novels ARE canon
Natsu still bodies him of course, i just wanted to put respect on Ace's name ♤
EDIT: he even gave Ace basic armement and observation and said he couldn't use conqueror at will to make sure they would be no highball 🤷🏻
@@aanthonyy_ conquerors aura is useless against a main character, his will isnt weak
@@BadKarma1608 by conqueror I meant the coating, not the aura of course
@@aanthonyy_ ace most def cant use coating
@@BadKarma1608 my bad bro i didn't know you worked with Oda
Natsu is just built different
Even tho fairy tail is hated by ppl it will always have a special place in my heart.( natsu solo one piece so bad)😭
No and I love fairy tail
@@redhairpirates4635 natsu would whoop every one in one piece so far because you can't include people like imu who don't have real feats. Off what we know so far natsu solos the verse
Narsu soloing one piece is a stretch ngl
@@IamG_ off what we've seen so far he solos because you can't count people with barely any feats like imu, dragon, shanks
@@IamG_he does, Natsu burnt through time twice dude, no one in piece even has feats exceeding island level explosions let alone reality shattering.
Chef Akainu cooking up his Mera Mera No Donut dish for Natsu.
a literal toddler vs hydrogen bomb is a closer match fr
No need to dawg on Ace like that lmaooo 😭
I do agree tho FairyTail and it’s users like Natsu do just have Black Force Energy 💯
I'm excited to see FT coming onto the channel
Ace is so fucking cooked bro lowballed Natsu scales above ace and highballed is universal
Higher
Natsu is large planet level max.
@@riftmaker4478 I don't know about that he literally destroyed a dimension
@@riftmaker4478destroying dimensions, burning time and other concepts, outscaling/beating things that could kill literally everything with pure aura, need i say more?
high ball is hyperversal but with feats? He's around High Multiversal
natsus BASE flames were calc'd at 200 million degrees celcius.
for reference, the core of the sun is only 15 million degrees
ace doesn't stand a chance
And yet you'll have goons saying yamamoto wins
@@ijustloveerza1694 yams MAX is 15 million. that’s a light walk in warm sunshine for Natsu
From what you've just said the ground underneath them doesn't stand a chance.
@@DeadHaremGuy except this is fiction/anime so the ground only breaks when an attack is thrown
@@DeadHaremGuy Because Natsu has shown multiple times he can precisely control his flames
he tanned Ares perfectly
without harming her
"Dragon donut mode" Lmao 💀
This fight has been obvious ever since it became a debate, but I still love the video and since you want to bring Fairy Tail to the channel you could do Gray vs Esdeath or Aokiji and Juvia vs Noelle Silva I think those fights would be fun to cover. Keep up the great work
@@DarkChillMisko99 I would love gray Vs esdeath, especially since I disagree with the death battle, Gray's cold resistance should be high enough to let him ignore esdeaths trump card
@@existentialchar he outstats Esdeath by a lot and can eat her ice to become stronger idk what Death Battle was on when they made her win it doesn’t make since and yea his resistance to the cold definitely protects him from her trump card
@@DarkChillMisko99 yep, her only chance to beat him is that she can stop time, but that gets stomped by the fact that it's not time but temperature based, and unless I remember wrong, in the manga tatsumi had enough cold resistance to go through it, so it's canon that cold res will bypass
@@existentialchar genuinely love seeing friendly, high-quality no hate match up convo’s like this 💯 God Bless y’all fr
I mean unless we’re hating on how Dogwater Death Battle can be at times 🗣️ lmao
@@existentialcharIt's time based. Gray stomps tho.
someone save my boy ace, he's getting cooked 😭
Natsu is immune to any fire that doesn't exceed his dragon fire (ace is just using normal class fire) and any fire that doesn't exceed natsu's, he can just eat as fuel. It not a question of power, because Ace literally cannot do anything against Natsu
Here's my rough explanation for fairy tail scaling I give people who down play it to hell.
There's a weapon shown in arc 3 known as Etherion, it's a giant magic space laser that is stated numerous times to just delete countries. (Some translations say continents and fairly late into the series when bringing up Alvarez and stuff but let's be fair and just say countries)
Acnologia is generally considered to easily eclipse the power of Etherion. With casual roars in dragon forms being stated to be of similar power or more. (With less charge time. Etherion is stated to take 20+ minutes to charge a single shot, while Acnologia produces similar with roughly 1/4 the time)
Then we get to fairy heart.
Something that the strongest human wizard Zeref absorbs and was stated multiple times to have INFINITE POWER. Something that can fire the country destroying laser infinitely no charge time or anything. Which is moderately proven when he starts manipulating space time at a whim and plans to go back in time with his new found power. Zeref states that even with Infinite Power he can't beat Acnologia.
Natsu starts beating or at least contending with guys with this tier of power pretty often.
Things get worse if we take other statements more literally such as Natsu, Zeref and Acnologia being above the concepts of space and time themselves. Hell, Wendy becomes an incredibly Potent Reality Warper with a high ball, fairy tails Dr Manhattan or Molecule Man
Or the fact Igneel is constantly downplayed despite the fact his only showing was with him not even having a proper body and soul and yet he would have one of the best feats in the franchise when he rips off Acnologia's arm and is also constantly refered to as powerful and hot as the sun.
Or other stuff like how Irene with prep wasn't even confident about stalling Acnologia but Igneel was certain he could potentially kill him immediately with no prep.
Glad to see Fairy Tail getting some scaling love! Would love to see more of it!
Broku, another scaler is going to also cover the verse
"That was a nice doughnut"
Natsu
_"Death Battle's video came down to a type matchup. I wanna do something different."_
Video comes down to a type match-up.
bro did we watch the same video?
Literally bro
@@Tylearnedyou do realize that Ace's body made out of fire right cuz he's a Loggia type devil fruit user how the fuck is Natsu going to touch him let alone eat his fire it's like saying Natsu would just walk up in one piece and just beat everybody no he will not he won't even get past Blackbeard for example if Natsu was in the Dragon Ball verse how far will he fall
@@Tylearneddo you not realize that Ace can turn into fire would his devil fruit Powers so even if you say it don't matter unfortunately for you it does one hit for those fire attacks Natsu's done suck it I don't give a damn this video was biased anyway copying off death battle what they did a year ago
@@cjcj4861 "you do realize that Ace's body made out of fire right cuz he's a Loggia type devil fruit user" - so he turns into the the thing that Natsu eats, great he will just be like a walking donut.
"how the fuck is Natsu going to touch him let alone eat his fire" - easy, just like he has eaten fire and touched it for years.
"t's like saying Natsu would just walk up in one piece and just beat everybody" - no it is not. It just says that Natsu would beat Ace. He does beat One Piece as well btw.
"he won't even get past Blackbeard for example" - what will he do? Summon a black hole? The thing that Natsu burned years ago?
I see you are toxic, but you are an embarassment as well.
Natsu can burn through time and dimensions end of discussion
Also respect for indroducing fairy tail you a real one
My question can he burn fire
@kikor4954 I'm pretty sure been a while since I rewatch fairytail
@kikor4954 technically he could, but he'd be better off eating it
@@kikor4954he can eat it
@xXSolo_DaiXx right but if ace entered his mout PAUSE and reverted back to being a human before natsu swallowed him PAUSE AGAIN wouldn't natsus jaw explode
Literally any Logia type DF vs a Dragon slayer is like giving the Dragon Slayers a snack
Or Slayers as a whole cause Devil and God Slayers exist.
Thought this was gonna be one of THOSE typa vs battle videos
Feels nice when One Piece fans actually use their brain and realise why Fairy Tail is a home to some different level of monsters. I should explain this Fairy Tail doesn't have power of friendship. Let me explain Fairy Tail's magic power system is literally fueled on what sort of emotions you are feeling for example Master Hades's darkness felt so dominant and unending cuz that is the kind of depressing and nihilistic mindset he had turned into which amped his Forbidden magic. Similarly because of Natsu having so many emotional moments before fighting with Zeref example gray and him fighting, him thinking Lucy died, him realising that Makarov died so much pain and sorrow increased the turbulent nature of his magic and amped him up enough to even burn time though with a small price which was to set his own soul literally on fire so yeah 😂 Fairy Tail's magic system is very simple and complex at the same time. People misunderstand this a lot and then they think its some Hax bullshit or something but thats not the case. Emotions is the power system, the literal reason why Sting and Rogue loose to Natsu so easily is because neither of them had any reasoning behind their fight. The moment Lector was harmed by the Sabertooth master Sting literally opened a hole in his body thats literally how much the difference of Emotions bring.
so the only way to beat them is to supress their emotions
@ Basically yes but I doubt that is even possible
First and also WHAT THE FUCK💀 This is the most one sided match you’ve done
Most one-sided match he's done? Did you not see his "Could Frieza invade Viltrum?" video?
@andersonbrowne4781 even that's less one sided than this since it was namek frieza.
He said he just wanted to introduce fairy tail match ups to the channel.I think something like Sabo vs Natsu would’ve been better.Heck maybe Shanks vs Gildarts
@@zhavierbrown4422Still extremely unfair episode 1 Natsu might have been fair
@@xrim1139 typical fairy tail fan scaling their verse to ridiculous heights 💀
One thing that needs to be mentioned is that the final fight against Agnalogia was outside of time meaning any character that moved even a millimeter in that fight is faster than time.
Additionally, since according to the author, the filler is canon that means we can scale using the eclipse celestial spirit arc but a bunch of characters as being able to move interstellar distances in little time.
Hope you do more Fairy Tail stuff in the future
W vid as always
Natsu is eating Ace 😂
He solos the verse
I say a pause there man
I don't think Natsu can beat any of the pirate ships.
@@DeadHaremGuy I don't think 90% of the verse can survive a swimming pool
@@irrelevanttroll3312
LMAO
@@irrelevanttroll3312 The way I CACKLED 😭🙏
This is one of the most unfair fights
Next you should do natsu vs the one piece verse maybe that'll be a fair fight 💀🙏
no it won't r.i.p one piece💀
One piece is obliterating natsu
@@kikor4954 no it's really not
@@kikor4954 boi yo be ✨️GLAZING✨️
@@Krypton009 isn't natsu large planetary
“I’m not using some friendship amped natsu”
You act like he isn’t always amped by friemdship😂, this is one sided af
Like emotions is apart of magic in fairy tail it amps it. Those emotions come from their friends
I mean he isn’t always amped up by ‘the power of friendship’, when his aura was melting a literal colosseum he was just chilling and happily looking for a good fight lol
But also emotions amp up EVERY wizards power, so ofc same thing happens for Natsu.
there is no “amping”, canonically, magic is heavily influenced by the wielder’s emotions, there is nothing like “plot armour” when it’s literally how the rules of the verse work.
More fairy tail videos please, it’s hard asf to find people out there who like fairy tail, much less talk about it, W video btw🙏🏾
Natsu slams the verse in general lmao. Natsu is eating Ace like the doughnut he is 💀
Nah he really doesn't lol
@@Hayden-nd7oythere's not a single character in one piece that can beat natsu in a fight
@@Krypton009 natsu is a large planet lvl fodder stop yappin luffy claps him
@@Hayden-nd7oy ratio💀 also Natsu claps. Natsu burnt through space and time and was able to move in a dimension where time stopped he's destroying luffy
@@Hayden-nd7oy COPE harder ain't no Way Natsu is losing to that Naruto victim 💀
I'm starting be amazed about how many characters in Manga moves fast enough to destroy the Earth several times over just by Movement.
While fighting hand to hand at a clear normal speed level of martial artists.
These light speed feats man.
Natsu slams let’s be honest base to base it equal but then Natsu has access to amps like lighting flame clock and dragon force mode
Don’t be delusional base to base Natsu is one shotting anyone in the verse💀
@@Kinty495 yo do you actually think his base can cook the entire verse?
No hate btw, I love FairyTail but have only seen clips of One Piece’s achievements and they looks Dope af too. I don’t mind for spoilers btw but yea I’m just wondering if you think Natsu’s base really solos the verse /gen 👆
@@AshunshwgarsBlade yes I do
@@Kinty495 honestly I’ve looked around and it seems like that’s a pretty popular opinion when taking into account Natsu’s fears apparently lol
You're saying that the guy who eats fire beats the guy who is made of fire? Insane.
/j, good video
More interested in Luffy vs Natsu to be honest. One thing I can say about Fairy Tail is that the verse is decently strong.
Honestly, OP is cooked. Just flames of Natsu reach the sun temp. If you have seen the video of what happens when we bring a piece of the sun to earth, you would know OP getting destroyed since a peice can do that much, never mind a continously source of it.
Also decently strong, you mean a nearly universal verse? Although Zeref and Acnologia make more than 50% of the fairy tail verse strength.
@kingofwinggaming natsu's flames can reach temps way way higher than the sun.
It's been stated to be above 200 million degrees Celsius. The sun is 5499 degrees and it's core is 15 million degrees Celsius.
Natsu's flames are at least 36 thousand times hotter than the surface of the sun
@@Jet-ij9zc I am not well kept on FT scaling but if that is true, he is blowing apart OP verse just by breathing a bit of flames.
Luffy’s rubber cannot withstand 200 million degree fire, he actually gets vaporized with one roar 😭
didnt realize you had the script in the description, pretty cool ngl
Nobody asked but want it. I love fairy tail, i have the ice devil slayer mark as a tattoo.
BELIE!
Dragon donut mode! 😂😂
Thats tattoo is actually mad cool.
Crazy how fairy tail still going on and it's still mad fun to watch.
You forgot to mention that in alverez, Base Natsu was able to melt invel's ice which Invel said only nuclear fission levels of heat was able to due
Meaning Natsu's heat temperature is minimum 13 suns💀
i think the discussion of if Natsu has the ability to eat Ace is way more interesting than who wins
It's very likely Natsu could eat Ace. We see him begin to devour Atlas Flame in the Grand Magic Games, a dragon composed entirely of Hellfire, so there shouldn't really be any problem with him eating Ace's fiery body.
@@Kuithehybridfax
Natsu can eat any fire
Except his own fire
@@joshbrosh6626 fax
@@joshbrosh6626 actully. he CAN eat his own fire, it just won't do anything for him
The fairy tail verse is a lot more powerful and larger than one piece. They even have there one version of a multiverse with different versions of the characters from different realms.
Tylearned PLEASE DO LUFFY FOR ASTA I KEEP HEARING ABT THIS BUT I WANT IT FROM THE PROFESSIONAL
OMG MY GOAT IS COOKINGGG BRO IM LITERALLY COOKIN A VID OF NATSU N LUFFY SWAPPING FIGHTS
Base 100 years natsu negs the op vers
“I’ve got to introduce FairyTail onto the channel somehow”
And you, good sir, have just earned another sub 👆🔥🔥
This actually lowballs both Natsu and Ace. You’re correct that Natsu is stronger but Natsu scales much higher than any of the feats you brought up and Ace actually is quite proficient in Haki thanks to the novels/chapter of A, not that it’ll save him from Natsu
No disrespect, cool video, but I wanted to point out a couple things. If the character you meant at 8:40 was Suzaku, Erza has never blitzed him... ever. He blitzed Erza, with her even being able to react being the peak of what she's able to do. She's taken on arguably stronger enemies since, but she never "blitzed him 30 times over." Also, when you mentioned lightspeed characters, you mentioned Suzaku, but showed Haku, though both are incredibly fast; the former being able to attack faster than the eye can see and the latter being said to be as fast as or around as fast as the speed of light. So either could've worked here.
I will say, I respect that some find Natsu's boosts to be BS. But we have to remember, Natsu early on is established to have the Flames of Emotion which grow in strength with his emotions like how Hulk's strength increases with his anger. This is how his Magic is established to work so in my opinion, it'd be BS if they didn't work the way they did, but I respect if people disagree. Also, I don't know if you could argue Magic in Fairy Tail is the spiritual energy Mages harness. That could play into it, but Magic in Fairy Tail is basically the byproduct released from the body based on Magic Power, which comes from an atmospheric particle known as Ethernano absorbed into an organ known as the Magic Container.
Again, not tryna be a strickler or disrespectful. Cool vid overall!!!
Power of Friendship
Name me one moment when fairy tail used power of friendship
oh about the 7 kings attack, that wasnt even the flames of emotion in effect, let alone plot armor, it was actually one of wendy's enchantments, she directly states she enchants natsu with all of the dragon slayers power in the middle of that fight, tho i do think the flames of emotion was procced during that attack which is most likely the push it needed to actually kill achnologia
Natsu folds
Great video!
Natsu one shots
Ive been waiting for the longest of times for someone to actually scale fairy tail properly
natsu is a eater today
Natsu going into the fight with a bib on in preparation for the buffet he's gonna enjoy.
The Fairy Tail universe is way stronger but One Piece is undoubtedly a way better written series.
@@canasdad9115 I can agree with that, although I probably love fairy tail more than I love one piece, simply becausd fairy tail is special to me
Natsu to Ace: (Smirks) "I was feelin' hungry! Get over here boy!"
goats just do goat stuff man, what can i say
I’m glad you’re covering fairy tail🎉🎉🎉 it’s amazing
Ace: Man, it's cold out here, I should warm myself up.
*Proceeds to heat up an entire Island enough for it to not snow for days.*
I can't wait for the Erza vs Zoro vid
One is the main character, the other isn't. One has fire powers, the other eats fire and has fire powers. One got a hole punched through them, one punched a god to death. I think it's safe to say that it isn't a fair fight.
Hey I just found your channel, I Like the video. I'm a fan of DB, Could you do Erza vs Zorro too?
Im happy this is just them in base because otherwise it wouldn't be fair
Alabasta luffy vs hisoka lowkey a clean fight🙏🏽
2:03
just so you understand it a little more. ace used conquers haki (not the same as regular haki). this doesn't mean he knows how to coat his body and harden it with haki. just simply means his conq haki peaks during stressful emotion events giving him the ability to incapacitate people weaker than him. durring marine ford his conq haki would have been useless and theres also the fact luffy had already used his and incapacitated most of the marines. the ability ace used as a kid isnt the same a regular haki thats typically used in the show.
I heard 100 yr quest. Give me a couple of days to catch back up.
The battle could be very close and depend on the circumstances. Natsu's ability to consume fire could give him the upper hand in dealing with Ace’s attacks, while Ace’s intangibility and powerful fire-based techniques would challenge Natsu. The environment and strategy would play crucial roles in determining the victor.
Nothing depends on any circumstances. Natsu has way higher scaling and Ace's attacks won't do any damage, while all of Natsu's attack will connect because he can eat and touch fire and has fire way above the magma that burned Ace in canon.
This shouldn't even be a debate in 2024.
A large planet level pink hair character vs a Multi-Continent level to Moon level ACE, geez I wonder who would win
dragon donut mode is wild
Now we need tsuna vs natsu
Maybe later you vould do Fire dragon King natsu vs g-5 luffy, Acnologia vs Madara, or Gray Fullbuster vs Saskue
Fun fact: Natsu’s flames are even hotter than that! Invel has said that Natsu is the only person (that he knew of, since he didn’t know Ignia) That could melt his ice! That includes Wall, who has Magic Confinement Fusion, which was said to be a magic equivalent to 200 million degrees Celsius!
I think Ace vs Engine (unburn from undead unluck) is a better question. Could or couldn't Engine remove Ace from existence if Ace is literally a fire?
"So i heard you were a donut"
Natsu can eat any fire except his own fire , so it is basically one sided match. And oh by the way ,can u do laxus vs enel?
I always found it funny watching the old video seeing how somehow all the OP fans were so mad natsu won when its such common sence, now ive never watched OP and never will but even the old video described his abilities and when i hear he transforms into natsus MEAL i knew bro was cooked- OP fans never shut up sometimes honestly i was so ready to be annoyed abt someone else saying natsu would loose but i thank you for dimming it down for thoes in the back
“Dragon doughnut mod” 😂 ouch no respect
Death Battle isn't actual research its mostly based on popularity where unless its is glaringly obvious which character wins based on stats the more popular character will end up winning
One very important thing. Natsu is COMPLETELY immune to fire, so Ace’s devil fruit, literally doesn’t hurt Natsu at all, in fact, it makes Natsu stronger if he eats Ace’s fire. Finally, Natsu’s flames are hotter than Ace’s because after the one year time skip, Natsu melted an entire Colosseum. He can burn almost everyone’s cloth (except this own) just by being there, he doesn’t even need to touch people. I have never seen Ace’s flames do that, so Natsu’s flames are like magma face from Once Piece and Natsu would win. If you want to have a long conversation with me about this, we can take it to discord.
While this is definitely an overkill thing to mention (and could be argued to just be overwanking natsu’s power), using certain statements and feats towards the end of the manga, natsu’s base flames can be calc’d to around or even above 200m degrees Celsius.
Another thing to note is that these statements come from OG Fairy Tail, meaning at the current point in 100yq natsu has most likely far surpassed these calcs
“Well death battle just made it a cringe type match up”
*proceeds to use said type match up*
“Power of friendship?” Isn’t natsu flames based on his emotions? And he gets stronger the more fired up or angry he is
Ace always served me as "who should be the Chosen One" archetype due to his genes and was always going to be a motivational character for Luffy to grow as a character. As a fighter, he's average and against Natsu who thought eating all kinds of fire is just fire to Natsu, it's over for *Krispy Kreme* Donut boy
dragon donut mode is diabolical, and I think part of natsu's ability to burn thing is the magic behind it more than the concept itself.
Well, it has been said that The Space Between time is a concept and that is an entity different from power, which is what magic is. So Natsu burning concept has nothing to do with magic.
@@borislavborisov2117 fair enough
The only awnser to this question is omnomnom
Natsu packs up the entire verse in his base form btw 😭
@@rakimovich-361 The guy who burnt through time and literally defeated dragons is getting stopped by a Haki merchant? 😭
So this fight is what I think
So at the end you concluded the same as death battle? "Natsu eats fire, ace is fire" 😮
I dare you to debunk everything in Death battle
oh BRUDDA Ace gets donufied and eaten up by a dragon slayer😭 NAHHHHHH
I’m also planning to do more VS battles on my channel centered around 7ds/4kota and Fairy Tail
The second i heard him say ace is at least gear 4 level if not stronger i knew he doesn't know jack shit