FF7 Ever Crisis Reveals the Edge of Creation & an Empathetic Sephiroth | Chapters 7 & 8 Recap
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- The edge of creation has officially been revealed in Ever Crisis linking it to the Remake series. What does this mean for Remake part 3?
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In the Rebirth ultimania, the developers did say that Sephiroth wanted to "save the planet" in the remake trilogy. Perhaps the Sephiroth at the edge of creation is his true self, with no influence from Jenova, and he is truly trying to help? I doubt it, but it's not impossible. We could be on the verge of a Sephiroth redemption arc. As insane that is to think about.
What if future Sephiroth in the lifestream is fighting Jenova Sephiroth in order to create balance. And the 2 baby weapons we see are actually Omni Aerith and Omni Sephiroth trying to save the planet from Jenova this whole time? And by Jenova Sephiroth I mean og seph and the one who attacks one of the weapons while Tifa is with them.
@@TheKinety That's an interesting theory. With all of the clear foreshadowing of Aerith surviving this time around, imagine if Sephiroth's true self was the reason she was able to survive. Now I come to think of it, when Tifa was attacked by Cloud at the Gongaga reactor and fell into the Lifestream, the weapon swallowed her. However, it didn't seem to actually want to harm her. It almost seemed to be protecting her. It looked like it wanted to show her some memories within the Lifestream, then brought her back to the others without a fight. The new way they're handling the weapons definitely feels like they're going to have big implications later in the story.
My thoughts exactly after watching first soldier chapters. Sephiroth is almost entirely under the influence of jenova except for the small sliver of humanity thats stuck in the edge of creation.
@@TheKinetyrewatch Better that sequence,with Tifa inside the weapon...This Sephiroth we see,Is not trying to kill Tifa.The black whispers Attack the weapon,trying to stop It and steal the memories that Tifa has Just regained....When Sephiroth spawns,he Pierce the huge materia to force the weapon to emerge,and cute it's skin to make the black whispers go out and leave alone the weapon...In all this,the White whispers that are around the weapon let him do his job without attacking him,Because they don't recognize this Sephiroth as and enemy...
I sort of think that Sephiroth is aware that Jenova is not his mother, but believes shes the key to “saving the Planet.” Because of his very skewed childhood, he doesn’t truly understand how the natural cycle of life and death keeps the Planet going, therefore he wants to “preserve it” through Jenova’s Reunion of the many “worlds” in the Lifestream. He truly believes this is the right thing to do and has to do so many calculated moves to achieve what he believes is right. What he is unaware of is that his version of “saving the Planet” is the same as keeping a sick old man alive through adrenaline shots instead of letting them pass away peacefully, he does not hear the Planet’s lifestream screech in horror and pain, therefore Aerith and the party are trying to stop him.
One thing to clarify, the necklace Glenn kicked contained the photo of Lucrecia. Sephiroth had lost it in chapter 6. Glenn basically destroyed Sephiroth’s only chance at finding his real mother in a fit of rage. It was a rough moment.
It's interesting to see it resurfacing from the lifestream almost as if Sephiroth was meant to have it...and should've. I do wonder how things would've been if he had that necklace with him.
This Is something We'll see in the third part....i'm almost sure that,this time,there Will be a contact between Sephiroth and Lucrecia...
Also, Dirge of Cerberus strongly hinted to Lucrecia being Cetra and even having some sort of cosmic connection. Should we get this revelation, it would play MAJORLY into what helps the pure Sephiroth, begin his mission to overcome and destroy Jenova for once and for all.
Sephiroth now reminds me of Itachi and Professor Snape lol 😂
I have this theory that we're going to eventually be shown that the Sephiroth we've been fighting this entire time is all just Jenova and when we meet the actual Sephiroth they will not have the same goals.
Sepiroth's body is overtaken by hate and jenova's cells controlling him. His conciousness still has good in him, his human side. The boss we fight in the end is just a shell, his body. His conciousness is gonna help cloud and try to guide him.
That's real interesting, especially considering after Meteor is summoned Sephiroth has no dialogue for the rest of the story
@@theextracrispycolonel9502 It's also interesting if you go back and check out the meteor scene in Remake... it looks as if Cloud and Seph are standing back to back almost as if they're allies... the interesting thing is Cloud also looks straight ahead and says, "Sephiroth" before it fades to black.
I feel so much for Sephiroth, I want to write my own version of “Meet the Grahams” because Hojo is a terrible Father! He abused and raised his own son as a Gaurd Dog/ Labrat then a Human being and Lied about his Mother while preventing him from seeing her.
I think a lot of what they’ll reveal in Ever Crisis concerning him won’t be crucial to understanding what’s up with him.
Between his philosophical duels with Aerith, what he’s bound to say at the north crater, and what’s guaranteed to be a bizarre end world state/final dungeon, you’ll get what you need to know in Part 3.
All this can be boiled down to “Sephiroth has more in common with Zack and Cloud than you may think at first”. Anyone who played CC shouldn’t be too shocked by all this
I feel like Sephiroth is at the edge of creation essentially because he cannot join the lifestream, this is the consciousness of sephiroth while his body is at the northern crater.
Sephiroth has always been able to enter and exit the Lifestream, and even control it to a certain extent. We honestly believe we will learn he has Cetra lineage [we have a solid theory on that], some confirmation is learning he can actually hear the Lifestream speak to him, [per Rebirth].
We believe that his arrival to the Edge of Creation is actually a testament to him being beyond other mortals [including even the Cetra], and possesses a powerful cosmic connection that allows him godlike abilities, and more of what he truly is will soon be revealed.
@@thefinalfantasynation lucrecia and hojo both are not a cetra and sephiroth is beyond the edge of creation because he is rejected by the lifestream which is why he is able to traverse it but not become one with it. The real sephiroth is at the edge of creation subconsciously, which is why he says cloud lend me your strength aka when cloud gives him the black materia in OG
Whatever is the reason this is so much hype !!!
Tifa saw Sephiroth in the lifestream though, he's been there for five years. Besides, Sephiroth is technically human, yes he has the Jenova cells but his parents were human it's not the same case as the Gi.
He was in the lifestream throughout the entire franchise post nibelheim
if there are multiple timelines going on in this retelling... then what if the Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation is essentially a good guy, trying to stop his other selves from enacting their plan(s)?
That was me who made the tweet about the resolution scene. The RU+ even draws parallels to Aerith's Resolution scene by calling her sky a "starry sky" which is what they call the nebulas at the Edge of Creation.
This ending actually gives us a lot of info on Sephiroth and theory crafting material. Very interesting.
faz faz is doing God's work lol. also, 5:43 the gesture he makes here where he sighs and drops his shoulders is such an introvert move. He does not want all this attention, and i feel like he doesn't even fully understand it. Some people have called Sephiroth manipulative, narcissistic, arrogant, self obsorbed, having a superiority complex. But i feel like right here, this is the real human man Sephiroth. Quiet, contemplative, thoughtful, introspective, man of few words, gentle even, and protective among other things. You never hear him raise his voice, you never see him angry or enraged. He really is a hero, but does he fully know what that means? Does he care? Or does he just want a "normal life". As far as I know Sephiroth only ever asked for two things: to know who his mother is, and for a normal life...
With seeing this video and the theories with Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation, as well as the theory of there being three Sephiroth, I'm beginning to think that maybe the main Sephiroth is experiencing all of time at once, and it's contributing to at least a good chunk of the mystery of this new story. Similar to other characters like Eren in Attack on Titan, Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen and more who experience time in different spans that aren't quite linear, I'd imagine it'd get confusing speaking with someone experiencing all of time at once, because they're going to speak in a way where an event hasn't happened for us, and at the same time has already happened for them and not happened yet.
Since he was dispersed in the Lifestream at the end of the original VII but not broken down, he's had nothing but time to figure everything out and maybe calm down a bit. Jenova only really seems to be able take advantage of you if your will is weak, and in the original Japanese version of the game, the Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation refers to himself with masculine pronouns (crazy Seph uses gender neutral pronouns for himself) so that's gotta mean his identity and will is back. Either way Part 3 is gonna get trippy!
It really makes him a lonley soul, of course makes me wonder that the several really crazy sephiroths we meet are the jenova corrupted sephiroths, while the one at the edge of creation is the part of him that is "him"
i hope part 3 goes in depth of these stories. also it makes sense to me that since the team made sephiroth playable in rebirth that theyre saving more gameplay of him in part 3 (hopefully) along with zack (edit: yes if these stories arent in pt 3 then square is dumb)
This feels like what they have done with Kingdom Hearts as well - a lot of the lore is discovered in mobile games I'm never going to touch
I love what they are doing with his character in First Soldier. And like you are saying, it feels so important that it should be included in the third game. I hope they will do that. It feels like they are creating, remaking his legacy now, because I think after part 3 he will be gone for good. After almost 30 years of him representing FF7, evil, even SquareEnix, I would love to have a bittersweet farewell to his character
@OzZforrest I don’t want it to end!!! 😢 But I agree, learning about Sephiroth is important as well as great!
I don't no if you have seen the FF7 Movie Advent Children. Sephiroth is in the movie as well, fighting with cloud as usual. Sephy is everywhere. He is the trademark of SquareEnix Final Fantasy and I don't think they can make him gone forever
I'd be very surprised if they were doing all this and make us feel empathetic towards him just to kill him for good at the end of part 3. Seph is incredibly popular and a lot of fans would not be happy about that.
None of the characters Will ever be made disappear for good...not Just Because they are part of Square Enix and game industry Immortal treasures,but they are part of some generations most precious memories too.They'll NEVER be forgotten..they'll NEVER disappear
Nah they won't kill him off, part 3 will give all of the characters an ending arc that's why him getting redeemed works, but they're not gonna kill him off he's one of the most popular characters in the gaming history. But it's really obvious they have plans for his character from the way they're expanding the whole Jenova storyline.
I'm so bummed out that this is all in a mobile game. The game's content could have been shown in Remake and Rebirth to flesh out certain characters
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Ive said it b4 somewhere. I think they will end ff7 remake trilogy with sephiroth redemption and maybe his sacrafice to save the world at the end.
Maybe.
Cuz all of it shapes into picture, that he too, has become twisted, not natural behaviour, like Cloud in Rebirth, having his mind twisted af
Loveless: Sacrifice at worlds end. I had that line from CC when I saw EV sephiroth at the edge of creation.
The Heroic Sephiroth Timeline
Two names.
Nojima and NOMURA!
Maybe there are multiple sephiroth versions from different world's who wants to destroy the world's
We all called it…
I had a fun theory that Jenova could be the Watcher from Drakengard. But it wasn't possible cause there is no Red Eye disease in running about...
But it is amusing to think that Sephiroth as an Intoner tho. 🙂
I keep repeating that the 'edge of creation' is a link with many games in the series, where you can see the birth of new civilizations and the death of old ones. It’s the same as Ultima Thule in FF14, and a similar location can also be found in FF16 and even FF9! That's why they emphasize the existence of this place so strongly, because the changes introduced by the creators likely outline the future of the series: ruclips.net/video/zE77gooam1w/видео.htmlsi=ZuDgPDVqsksva_cU
Great video
Remember in the OG, Sephiroth chucks a destruct materia at Cloud in Nibelheim?
To effectively take down the last form of Sephiroth (Safer Sephiroth) the guide tells us to use destruct materia after he casts wall.
They should just make a real first soilder
FS chapter 8 is my cinematographic trauma as for now, I'll never forget how Sephiroth isn't strong because he wants to but he NEEDS to.
I can't afford to play Ever Crisis. Though, I would happily spend $70 for the whole games (minus micro-transactions).
This isn’t the same Sephiroth
Jenova cells controlling Sephiroth and making him do it's bidding has been a running longtime fan theory that a majority of the FF7 fanbase has pushed back against due to low IQ.
7:08 confirms it.
Those "headaches" is the Jenova control powers.
This means...that Speh did nothing wrong.
Good guy Swphiroth is real.
Theres going to be a fan meltdown with Part 3.
I knew this was happening the moment the confirmed that Seph would be controllable in Rebirth.
All of that dev time just to make a kit for Sephiroth JUST to be controllable in the flashback and one piece of side content?
Lmao.
The controllable version even has attacks and mechanics the enemy version doesn't have.
They ruining a chance to bring this story proper to a console FS return… this mobile is crap. Nobody is going to keep playing… we all are going to watch the cut scenes hence drop the shell of poo when we extract all the lore from the the poop
Sephiroth probably made the Edge of Creation via Lifestream Black
Very clear as to why this is in a mobile game. It's important parts of a main character's background. Everyone has a mobile, more sales that would otherwise not happen.
Most non Japanese Final Fantasy fans aren't going to want to play mobile trash as part of an already overly convoluted remake trilogy.
0:41 Yeah me too, i stop played Ever Crisis even tho i only played for two months. Because i am SEA player. Even after i bought their battlepass for 2 months love grinding games but EVER CRISIS is different., Too fast cycle at the gacha. And to increase character power you need more grinding, unless you are rich to pay all those Gem pack
For me now, the story is the only thing i want, where i can watch youtube
I don’t agree the Ever Crisis stuff is essential. It’s trying to redeem him in some way and that just isn’t who he is.
He doesn’t need a sob story, he chose madness, that’s the appeal of his character.
I've seen nothing that 'redeems' him, only explains him. At every point he could have done better, been better, and he didn't, regardless of cosmic influences. Doesn't mean he wasn't very human for it.
Madness cannot be chosen...It happens,and it's not a fault,It's horrible,it's a Nightmare nobody deserves...it's a tragedy
I am fine with them showing us a tragic backstory but what would ruin it for me is if they make full on obito uchiha who suddenly turns good at the end, that would be very corny he is an amazing villain so keep him a villain
As interesting as all of this is, the fact it's tied off in the story of a gatcha game that's so grindy, even you an FF7 content creator couldn't be bothered to grind it out just makes me salty as to why bother having this story revelation at all? I know they're gonna add it into Remake part 3 but I hope they wouldn't for the sake of the majority of people that didn't Ever Crisis. Also not a fan of trying to make Sephiroth a good guy after 20+ year status of main villain. Sigh... I'm just done.
There's no signs that they'll make Ever Crisis necessary to understand whatever Ever Crisis is currently conveying. But if they do, sure, I'll very much agree with you.
Its already been canon since the 90s game that Sephiroth was considered a hero by regular Shinra folk and that he was decent to others. This was never purely a mask. He really was a 'good guy' - in the eyes of the fucked up FFVII setting at least. It was only in Nibelheim, with its revelations, and Jenova influence/awakening in him, that he violently snapped. He allowed it all by choice, but people make their choices under many influences, and he had extreme ones. This was already established decades ago.
So the whole time we were mislead to thinking he was a villain when it was Jenova all along and he was a puppet? I mean 20 years late for this reveal but ok.
Jenova has been the villain, not Sephiroth. Sephiroth has been imprisoned due to Jenova's Will.
@@bigtatsu Nothing in the compilations or remake trilogy have even hinted at Jenova being the primary antagonist this whole time. Sephiroth at the end of creation didn't even hint or inform anyone that he's not their enemy. Didn't even say anything to Cloud other than join me and be cryptic. What are you talking about? Can you let me know where in Remake Trilogy or the compliation series they even hint at Jenova being the main influence for Sephiroth's will/behavior? I know the OG had some translations that more directly implicated Jenova's influence over Sephiroth but nothing I've seen or heard in FF7's later works or remake imply Jenova's autonomy.
@@HolyHadou Did you even play the original game? Jenova has always been the main villain. I've been playing this game since 97 I know what I'm talking about.