Kroos is the Xavi to Modric's Iniesta. Tempo controller. Real Madrid play to Kroos' tempo. If he speeds up they speed up, If he slows down they slow down.. Modric is the better player of the two but Kroos does need a little more respect in the scene. In any point, Modric is the king of the trivela pass. If you watch him play week in week out he uses the outside of his right more often than the inside of his left. Little passes, long passes, crosses. Its a beauty to watch him play.
As a Barca fan, I can wholeheartedly agree that Modric is up there with the greatest: Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, etc… for me Zidane is untouchable but after that I’m taking Xavi over both Modric and Iniesta. The argument that Modric can maybe offer a bit more all round is fair but you’ll never again see a midfielder that reads the game like Xavi. 40+ goal contributions in a single season, his patience, passing range, everything was basically perfect, however I do agree that if you take him out of Barca’s system it might sway the debate towards Modric. But, we should judge based on what we’ve seen, not based on “what ifs” and for that reason I think Xavi is the answer (it’s VERY close, don’t less clueless Barca fans tell you otherwise)
Xavi created 30 goal chances in the 2010 FIFA World Cup, which was the joint second highest in the history of the game. The only one who beat him was Johan Cruyff with 36 goal creation chances in the 1974 World Cup. Is there anything more to say about how Xavi led Spain to Victory in 2010?
Can you guys boost the guests audio? I feel like so many pods are so heavy on your guys’ audio but the guest is always so low. Other than that loving the pods boys!
Mate I haven't related to anything to much when they were talking about how they stop watching football when their team is doing horribly. I'm in that state right now with Wolfsburg. It's so upsetting
Mark Viduka is actually the first Asian player to score 50 PL goals, not Son Australia plays in the AFC so they are counted as Asian players in football
Messi > Ronaldo. it shouldn’t even be a convo but it is cuz he’s signed with Nike and played for the top 3 European sides of football. Whether you go off stats or eye test , Messi wins hands down.
Ronaldo owns the champions league and has performed better under pressure from the quarter final to semi final to the big final Ronaldo has 42 goals compared messi's 25. Messi had better teammates throughout his career cristiano took the risk to move to a new league which drops your stats. At the end its opinions.
@@jeffbezos1187 no one used UCL as a standard when Raul was top scorer or from when Messi owned the UCL stats from 08-13 but once Ronaldo started scoring , all of a sudden it’s the number 1 argument. Messi is a better UCL player when he’s carried a broken Barcelona the last 4-5 years, a better g/a ratio playing for worser sides. Messi played with better players ? Ronaldo literally played in 2.5 super teams 😂 you’re acting like Real Madrid didn’t do Galactico 2.0 with Ronaldo Benzema Kaka etc. And even then he couldn’t win the UCL until Gareth Bale came and saved his Real Madrid legacy. If Ronaldo is Mr.UCL , why couldn’t he help Juventus (multiple finalists ) get over the line the 3 years he was there ? But it’s funny how Benzema has carried Real to more UCL semis than Ronaldo has with Juve or 21/22 2nd placed Man Utd 🤷🏽♂️
@@Shanzo1 messi played for the best club team in history the 2009 to 2012 barcelona team from that on messi had neymar the player who was the 3rd best player for 5 years at that time and luis suarez the only player to win golden boots in peak messi ronaldo era. He had 2 of the best midfielder xavi and iniesta for more than 10 years on his team. The only year he carried barcelona was 2019. Now he has messi and mbappe. Ronaldo took risk by moving leagues where your stats drop and hard to adapt look at messi in psg wtf has he done he still has neymar and mbappe who is the future goat. Ronaldo is the BEST in the ucl because in the quarter final to semi final to big final he has scored 42 goals compared to 25 despite messi had all these advantages also the galacticos 2.0 wasn't better than barcelona wtf are you on about bruh.
this season alone makes the debate a lot tighter. Ronaldo is 37 playing in the hardest league in the world with the worst man utd team in history, and is performing better than Messi at 34 in a super team in ligue 1. So no, its not cuz Ronaldo is signed to nike its because its acc a close debate
@@ap7football933 what do you mean “this season alone”? When have we ever compared players past their best and see who is “less worse”? If so: Ronaldo joined a 2nd league position, Europa league final Man Utd and made them 6th placed with no challenge for any European trophy. He took away goals from Greenwood, Rashford and Bruno. PSG failed to win the Ligue 1 last year, Messi joins and Neymar + Mbappe’s number rise and they win the title with Messi having one of the most assists in the league. We also saw what happened to Barca when he left. So if you REALLY want to do “GOAT” debates when they’re in their mid 30s - there’s a clear winner
Most Liverpool fans I know don't think they'll win Prem... no one is romanticising the Gerrard thing, Villa will get shat on, it's more a meme that other fans take as serious. Liverpool have a genuine chance at a Treble. But they won't get Quad, City are too good to lose to Watford etc, they simply don't have any tough teams to face, its an easy 7 wins for them. Liverpool may only end on a league cup, which will be quite sad tbh.
Not really it depends what you prefer. In my opinion ronaldo is better because of the way he handles himself on/off the pitch. And as an overall athlete he is better then messi. Talent wise messi is better but for me a player with such a talent shouldn't be losing ball on dors to ronaldo if only he had ronaldo's work rate.
Mcfred will win the title at united clip me up save this comment for the day Scott Mctominay and Fredinho lift the Premier league at the Stretford End.
I'll take all 3 Ajax graduates at United over our defence at United:De Ligt,Botman, Timber. hell I'll take Skriniar or Bastoni over Maguire, I would take current Jaap stam and Brucey over Maguire.
Ngl I'd rather play City I know on paper they're the better team but Madrid just have that mentality and bullocks about them where they will get a result no matter what City can always fold
For me Messi is the overall GOAT. But I've been so impressed by Ronaldo lately that I think he is the 30y/o+ GOAT. His levels and accomplishments Post-30 is insane. As sad is I am to lose Messi & Ronaldo to old age there is a joy to be found in living in a period where players can legitimately contend for the best in the world, Lewandowski, Benzema, Salah, it's no longer a default answer.
Erik will let acdamy players play like McNeill Garner and Hannibal and grancho, then he will bring in one or two ajax players, I really see him trying hard to get de leigt when they get rid of Maguire
@@CrossxFir3 completely missing my point m8. I’m pointing out the fact that he’s being a hypocrite by saying he hates son for doing something that Ronaldo does
Theo genuinely shocks me every podcast of how bad his football opinions are. Declan rice the best DM in the world??? Joshua kimmich? Rodri?? Even de jong is doing better at the moment.
Don’t use that argument look at Spanish and Croatian teams there is a massive difference in quality. Modric dragged Croatia to a World Cup final. Croatia has only been a country for 30 years
Absolutely done me over on that thumb 😂😂😂
Thanks for having me lads, loved it! ♥️
Happiest I’ve seen you all season Adam 😂
@@-RSH 😂
Bruv I'm seeing that thumbnail in my nightmares.
"arsenal will not finish above us"
Ngl I’m a CR7 fan, and I found it hilarious that Adam was going on about Son being a crybaby. Bro we have Ron in our team!🤣
I’ve subbed here but I always listen to it on Spotify . U2 lads r the best !!!
Crazy that Reevs suggestion to make Tarkowski the Burnley manager isn’t far off what’s happened
Kroos is the Xavi to Modric's Iniesta. Tempo controller. Real Madrid play to Kroos' tempo. If he speeds up they speed up, If he slows down they slow down.. Modric is the better player of the two but Kroos does need a little more respect in the scene. In any point, Modric is the king of the trivela pass. If you watch him play week in week out he uses the outside of his right more often than the inside of his left. Little passes, long passes, crosses. Its a beauty to watch him play.
As a Barca fan, I can wholeheartedly agree that Modric is up there with the greatest: Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, etc… for me Zidane is untouchable but after that I’m taking Xavi over both Modric and Iniesta. The argument that Modric can maybe offer a bit more all round is fair but you’ll never again see a midfielder that reads the game like Xavi. 40+ goal contributions in a single season, his patience, passing range, everything was basically perfect, however I do agree that if you take him out of Barca’s system it might sway the debate towards Modric. But, we should judge based on what we’ve seen, not based on “what ifs” and for that reason I think Xavi is the answer (it’s VERY close, don’t less clueless Barca fans tell you otherwise)
take modric out of madrids system
I'm taking modric cus he done both xavi and inesta role at Madrid
@@Cameron-qc7yk fair, at the end of the day you can’t go wrong with either. Both absolute legends.
Xavi created 30 goal chances in the 2010 FIFA World Cup, which was the joint second highest in the history of the game. The only one who beat him was Johan Cruyff with 36 goal creation chances in the 1974 World Cup. Is there anything more to say about how Xavi led Spain to Victory in 2010?
@@Sony4330 who is joint second?
Adam is always class
I feel like SON is a great replacement for PSG and is an ideal for Juventus
Quality watch!
Love Adam he’s a class, great interview lads!
Can you guys boost the guests audio? I feel like so many pods are so heavy on your guys’ audio but the guest is always so low. Other than that loving the pods boys!
Not sure about the new logo but Adam is a great guest! OG of football youtube
Goated podcast.
59:05 1:03:10 1:04:06 1:25:50 1:26:39
This was a great podcast episode and can you guys get James Alcott back on here
New logo and colours are great!
Got to get Mark Goldbridge on here
the timing of this was unreal
Congratulations on the BBC sounds stuff guys
Time stamps would be a blessing
I love that Theo is saying Liverpool won’t win the champions league that means we will win it
Speaks levels that they didn’t even have a thought that Dyche was fired.
Who gives a shit
Mate I haven't related to anything to much when they were talking about how they stop watching football when their team is doing horribly. I'm in that state right now with Wolfsburg. It's so upsetting
same with Barca
Rory next? 🤔
Tchouameni would be a good fit for united probably. Won’t like to see it happen though as a Liverpool fan.
its like listening to the random classmates who prefer rugby talk about tooball
Mark Viduka is actually the first Asian player to score 50 PL goals, not Son
Australia plays in the AFC so they are counted as Asian players in football
Who?
Messi > Ronaldo. it shouldn’t even be a convo but it is cuz he’s signed with Nike and played for the top 3 European sides of football. Whether you go off stats or eye test , Messi wins hands down.
Ronaldo owns the champions league and has performed better under pressure from the quarter final to semi final to the big final Ronaldo has 42 goals compared messi's 25. Messi had better teammates throughout his career cristiano took the risk to move to a new league which drops your stats. At the end its opinions.
@@jeffbezos1187 no one used UCL as a standard when Raul was top scorer or from when Messi owned the UCL stats from 08-13 but once Ronaldo started scoring , all of a sudden it’s the number 1 argument. Messi is a better UCL player when he’s carried a broken Barcelona the last 4-5 years, a better g/a ratio playing for worser sides.
Messi played with better players ? Ronaldo literally played in 2.5 super teams 😂 you’re acting like Real Madrid didn’t do Galactico 2.0 with Ronaldo Benzema Kaka etc. And even then he couldn’t win the UCL until Gareth Bale came and saved his Real Madrid legacy. If Ronaldo is Mr.UCL , why couldn’t he help Juventus (multiple finalists ) get over the line the 3 years he was there ? But it’s funny how Benzema has carried Real to more UCL semis than Ronaldo has with Juve or 21/22 2nd placed Man Utd 🤷🏽♂️
@@Shanzo1 messi played for the best club team in history the 2009 to 2012 barcelona team from that on messi had neymar the player who was the 3rd best player for 5 years at that time and luis suarez the only player to win golden boots in peak messi ronaldo era. He had 2 of the best midfielder xavi and iniesta for more than 10 years on his team. The only year he carried barcelona was 2019. Now he has messi and mbappe. Ronaldo took risk by moving leagues where your stats drop and hard to adapt look at messi in psg wtf has he done he still has neymar and mbappe who is the future goat. Ronaldo is the BEST in the ucl because in the quarter final to semi final to big final he has scored 42 goals compared to 25 despite messi had all these advantages also the galacticos 2.0 wasn't better than barcelona wtf are you on about bruh.
this season alone makes the debate a lot tighter. Ronaldo is 37 playing in the hardest league in the world with the worst man utd team in history, and is performing better than Messi at 34 in a super team in ligue 1. So no, its not cuz Ronaldo is signed to nike its because its acc a close debate
@@ap7football933 what do you mean “this season alone”? When have we ever compared players past their best and see who is “less worse”? If so:
Ronaldo joined a 2nd league position, Europa league final Man Utd and made them 6th placed with no challenge for any European trophy. He took away goals from Greenwood, Rashford and Bruno.
PSG failed to win the Ligue 1 last year, Messi joins and Neymar + Mbappe’s number rise and they win the title with Messi having one of the most assists in the league. We also saw what happened to Barca when he left.
So if you REALLY want to do “GOAT” debates when they’re in their mid 30s - there’s a clear winner
Most Liverpool fans I know don't think they'll win Prem... no one is romanticising the Gerrard thing, Villa will get shat on, it's more a meme that other fans take as serious.
Liverpool have a genuine chance at a Treble. But they won't get Quad, City are too good to lose to Watford etc, they simply don't have any tough teams to face, its an easy 7 wins for them. Liverpool may only end on a league cup, which will be quite sad tbh.
Yh the Gerrard thing is more of a if it happened it would be crazy but we know it ain’t gonna happen
It’s mainly wolves or West Ham but yeah, I don’t see city dropping any points
He’s right about Son. Man kicked Rudiger’s balls in. And was crying making excuses.
He was also the one who pushed Gomes into Aurier, which snapped his leg in two.
@@DPAE-xc4ph bro that genuinely made me cringe seeing Son act like that after Gomes' injury
@@DPAE-xc4ph exactly man. I don’t hate him. But I don’t like him dat much
still, a united fan saying he wouldn't want him in the dressing room is a bit ridiculous considering he'd be the best player on the team
@@owensimmons4379 true. I’m a Chelsea fan. And I wouldn’t mind him in the squad. He’s quality. But he’s not the nice guy everyone says he is
Rice is not the best DM in the prem, his one of the best yes
REEV called Mee as manager haha
Reev saying about Liverpool fans fantasising no fans think Liverpool will win all games to end of season
The Ronaldo Messi debate is literally United and Madrid fans vs Everyone else 😂
Don't forget Portuguese people - Cristiano is like a God to them.
I’m a United fan and Messi is my goat lol
Not really it depends what you prefer. In my opinion ronaldo is better because of the way he handles himself on/off the pitch. And as an overall athlete he is better then messi. Talent wise messi is better but for me a player with such a talent shouldn't be losing ball on dors to ronaldo if only he had ronaldo's work rate.
@@krystianstawiarz5407 Messi has it a lot easier due to his talent and he very protected by the media compared to Ronaldo
Mcfred will win the title at united clip me up save this comment for the day Scott Mctominay and Fredinho lift the Premier league at the Stretford End.
1:42:10 is so funnnyyyy
De Ligt would be perfect for United! Experience with ten Hag and he is a monster
I'll take all 3 Ajax graduates at United over our defence at United:De Ligt,Botman, Timber.
hell I'll take Skriniar or Bastoni over Maguire, I would take current Jaap stam and Brucey over Maguire.
De ligt looked like swiss cheese in my the champions league
I would be quite confident as a Liverpool fan if we were playing Real Madrid in the final.
Ngl I'd rather play City
I know on paper they're the better team but Madrid just have that mentality and bullocks about them where they will get a result no matter what
City can always fold
Where’s ODE to glory I need a reply reev
For me Messi is the overall GOAT.
But I've been so impressed by Ronaldo lately that I think he is the 30y/o+ GOAT. His levels and accomplishments Post-30 is insane.
As sad is I am to lose Messi & Ronaldo to old age there is a joy to be found in living in a period where players can legitimately contend for the best in the world, Lewandowski, Benzema, Salah, it's no longer a default answer.
why does everyone always say if you take one out the other ones bad 😂
Erik will let acdamy players play like McNeill Garner and Hannibal and grancho, then he will bring in one or two ajax players, I really see him trying hard to get de leigt when they get rid of Maguire
Mckola saying he doesn’t like son bc he’s always crying yet he loves ronaldo but he’s always crying
You expect him to hate a legend? If a spurs fan hated Ronald for that I wouldn't expect them to hate son. Do you not understand sports?
@@CrossxFir3 completely missing my point m8. I’m pointing out the fact that he’s being a hypocrite by saying he hates son for doing something that Ronaldo does
Love them talking about players becoming Burnley manager and then Ben mee steps up 😂
what injury record has he seen for kane? the man barely gets injured these days lol
Tubes is looking well
1:04:45 You can't blame the Spanish people for chasing cars.... It's not their fault that they're all huge Snow Patrol fans..
Theo genuinely shocks me every podcast of how bad his football opinions are.
Declan rice the best DM in the world??? Joshua kimmich? Rodri?? Even de jong is doing better at the moment.
Sounds like a continental player and as we know Premier league is the only league in the world
They all have a team celebration in the changing rooms at PSG they all gather like a flock making GOAT noises.
McKola is top class, could listen to him talk about waffle for decades
1:17:10
Theo, when was beckham captain of Man U? 😂😂😂
Prime bale shits over gigs , salah and mane at the same time
Xavi won Two euros and an world cup and been the player of the tourments for one of the events
Don’t use that argument look at Spanish and Croatian teams there is a massive difference in quality. Modric dragged Croatia to a World Cup final. Croatia has only been a country for 30 years
@@djj6069 tbf the only World Cup Spain has won Xavi was a part of that team
@@MarcusFrederiksen Iniesta and Casillas more influential than Xavi.
Modric might be the most overhyped player of all time other than maguire last year
If I was Spurs and Kane wanted to leave I would buy lukaku because conte oy manger rn that can get best out of him
Theo's lack of knowledge really holds this podcast back
Tammy is too disrespected 😂 he banging in goals for Chelsea aswell so let’s stop with this “he’s in an easier league”
A Bambino podcast
Modric is the best midfielder of all time.
52:30 I'll just come to this after the season is over to testify theo's disgusting ball knowledge lmao, otherwise great pod lads
STOP SAYING RICE IS BETTEE THEN FABINGO
Someone won 50,000 from that Leicester bet yano
Another day of theos insanely poor ball knowledge
McTominay is one of the best DM’s in the league. Stupid stupid
If you think that THEN GET HELP SERIOUSLY WTF
my word theo has some awful takes, xavi a left right merchant
Charlie McNeill and Joe Hugill. Not charlie hugill, be a good player tho him
L Rebrand
Okkkk ur moving to football RUclipsrs..... please get on Ty
Xavi iniesta>modric
Iniesta>modric>xavi. Only corect order
the worst manu trnfr prediction i hv evr seen🤣...son to barca and Rm wining agnst cty🤣🤣🤣🤣...these gys are just jokers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'll take Modrić over Xavi but not over Iniesta.
then you're wrong
Mckola fc
Mckola is a guy tbf
hahahahahahhaha
First again
Ronaldo isnt the goat lol
ok ben1000
adam mckola? added the least ball knowledgeable person i’ve ever seen, joint worse ball knowledge with jamie o’hara
GIGGS OVER BALE ARE YOU OFF YOUR HEAD😭😭😭😭😭 from a welshman, adam that’s fucking stupid
Much better in comparison to these 2
Theo baker is lietrally a co host here 😂😂😂😂😂😂