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I just don’t understand how Jessica was made to be the villain in this ordeal. She was absolutely betrayed by SM and her members. She dedicated 14 years of her life to the group, she was such an integral member (literally had the second most amount of lines for 14 years straight, whether she was a member or not) and yet she was abruptly removed, slandered and blacklisted in the industry. All this for what? Pursuing a solo career outside snsd (be it for fashion or music) and not focusing enough on the group? Something every single member was already doing or about to do? Mind you snsd were nowhere near as active post 9/30 as they were pre 9/30 so Jessica’s removal was wholly unnecessary based on the reasons that were provided. To this day the current members can happily go about their individual careers and lives with the snsd legacy alongside them, but Jessica cannot. She deserves to be able to bear the fruits of her labour, not to be treated as a pariah. It’s been almost 10 years and yet they still won’t stop. The recent congratulatory post for the Mr Mr music video reaching 100 million views being proof of this: cutting out Jessica’s face even though she was a member at the time and is the crux of the chorus. I’m so proud of Jessica’s achievements as a solo artist despite being blacklisted in SK but I still can’t get over the fact that she was wronged on every level.
@@Likelyfairy it almost feels like the company and members know it was a dumb and hasty decision (because like you said: her endeavours are so normalized now for other idols), but to save face - the narrative that Jessica was a problem is much easier for the company/groups image and much easier for current fans to digest. Because god forbid the other members be painted in a negative light, regardless of how Jessica was thrown to the wolves. Anyone with common sense and the ability to see how active the group was post 2015 can see that there was no need to remove Jessica for “not focusing enough on group activities” as there were barely any releases/shows after her removal.
It is so heartwarming to see there are still fans who is willing to give their support for Jessica through thick and thin. We have come a long way but our girl is still standing tall amidst the chaotic darkness. She will shine no matter what because truth is our strength and best weapon. Unlike some, Jessica and golden stars do not need to fabricate lies and fake stories to protect a cracked image that’ll never be recovered again.
I’ve always have my heart for snsd. They’re my ultimate group bias but I know in my heart that Jessica was indeed kicked out. Jessica’s statement has always been consistent, it just a shame it comes to this. Jessica wasn’t even my bias in snsd but I was really devastated when it happened, I’ve always thought that all members will last.
I’m so tired of people spreading lies about Jessica’s books and didn’t even read them! I just finished Shine and bright and she was def neutral about her and her members. There was miscommunication on both ends for sure and unfortunately led to her being kicked out. I feel so bad for Jessica and hope one day the truth comes out and people will give her a break, she doesn’t deserve that backlash especially after 10 YEARS. These OT8 stans act like 12 year olds when I’m pretty sure most are 20+ yrs old or new fans. The immaturity is insanee with these “sones” like grow tf up! Also to ppl saying it’s like a teen writing the book like a wattpad writer, I think she’s writing it based on her age during the time of her book, she was only 16-21 yrs old (correct me if I’m wrong) and I think it’s written on her POV at those eras in her life. Without a doubt she’s probably still living in her teen years since her childhood was taken since 11 as a trainee having to act professional all the time.
Thank you. Because the internet is inaccessible in the second generation, the fans' main source is frequently the biased big accounts that enjoy twisting Jessica's words.All the allegations ksones spread about Jessica's removal have been debunked long ago, like the marriage and fashion school that never happened, but sadly, a lot of fans still believe them, so I'm really happy that you are debunking those lies with receipts. Thank you for this and your voice is lovely.💗
the clubbing one always makes me the most angry because most of the people blaming her for it weren't around when those pictures actually came out. sm so quickly debunked them that everyone moved on immediately, there was no backlash or anything against yoona or taeyeon, so what is there to be angry about?
i did hear that antis tried to use the clubbing controversy against the group or taeyeon and yoona. yoona was even asked about it at an event in 2014 but she stayed silent... but again, not jessica's fault. however, as you said, it was debunked and for the most part, people moved on from it until her removal from the group happened and then people began to speculate that it was her then the koreaboo article in 2015 only stirred things back up. regardless, there's no one to blame but the media and i find it ridiculous that people try to use this controversy as some kind of "gotcha!" moment when it was clarified.
Even if the clubbing one was true, it'd be relatable and funny. They were young women in their 20s, they're allowed to have fun and not be constantly perfect. geez I've done much worse.
Big Sone accounts were another members’ fans, even KSones, Soy from Soshified, & biggest Vietnamese Sone fanpage. So at the time they spread biased and false rumors to destroy Jessica’s reputation. These false rumors were spread by SM mediaplay and big Sone accounts to the point that all Sones saw it and thought it were facts. It is just sad that certain Sones still spread and believe these false rumors. Honestly, there was a time I believe in a few of them too because I keep seeing it.
Agreed. Jessica is very unfairly treated by Kookielit and other commenters who claim to have inside knowledge of the situation. Jessica is resilient and cheerful in spite of the unfounded negativity. She is multi-talented and the most accomplished Soshi by far.
@@bunnywar make music? you mean sing? It's perfectly fine to keep calling herself a singer. I think music making is a rather different profession that she rarely seems to involve in.
@@bunnywar which songs did she write melodies? Are there many of them, if only one or two songs then that's not a serious job compared to her singing. (I'm not interested in lyrics, anyone can write that)
Jessica's removal affected her in two ways, professionally and personally . The decision to remove her was caused by the members complaints/concerns to management when Jessica refused OT8 direct ultimatum. Management then sided with OT8 instigating her removal. The thing which is disappointing is the blacklisting Jessica faced for explaining directly her removal. The lack of support from the members was awful. Professionally they isolated her. They ended her main job which was being a member of SNSD. In a blink of an eye , what Jessica had planned for the next three years following her contract extension disappeared. From SNSD, duo album with Krystal and her tv show, but most of all she was denied the use of the SNSD name to enhance her individual activities as the other members have done. Personally I believe there is no relationship between Jessica and any of the members. The day Jessica was told she was no longer a member , was the day the trust between her and members was completely broken. In the past ten years I find it slightly distasteful when the OT8 talk about their sisterhood, supporting each unconditionally and they are not jealous of each other and only wish each other success. It seems to be a theme in their interviews when talking about SNSD. They constantly seem to feel the need to remind people so to mask the fact they did the opposite for Jessica .
snsd are not the epitome of sisterhood in the slightest, they gladly chose to kick jessica out, not caring how jessica felt and how she never wanted to leave, they were all fine with solo activities until jessica was getting more successful, they're co-workers or just friends, but not sisters
I don't get people saying she didn't want to sing and wasn't kicked out. Like hello? Catch Me If You Can OT9 version and Divine MVs are out there! Why would she be featured on a full album and 2 main MVs that forced SM to reshoot everything if it was part of the plan to stop? Anyway stream Get it Got it Good
Also, she and Krystal were supposed to be in a unit. They literally finished making an album as well. But I think why people thought that. Creating a fashion line is extremely time-consuming, so they must have assumed that she wanted to leave or something.
I'm extremely surprised by how Korea literally bashed Jessica when she got kicked out. When B.i got kicked out, there was so much support for him. It just shows that misogyny is quite real in here.
ot9 stan r casual as always, she is not part of snsd anymore. If you are her fans go ahead why bringing snsd up. For you she is a sweetheart idc, for us she just a b. She wrote a novel full of drama, make herself a queen and make others villain, even some of the members have to make a respond to that
This video made me cry SO FREAKING MUCH. Uhm, firstly because I have been following GIRLS GENERATION since 2010 and it was part of my childhood and teenage years. Jessica was always my ultimate bias in the group, and I really missed her in the years when she was extremely and strictly hurt, judged by the fandom. And for me it becomes even more personal because I have been living the most sensitive phase of my life for 2 years. I'm completely vulnerable and sick, i feel like at any moment the floor is going to give way and I'm going to collapse into tears. The friendships I had, unfortunately disappeared, and I never stopped being a person who wished the best things to others and who, whenever possible, supported them. I know how Jessica feels when it comes to being alone, even though she has a sister, a family, she also feels loneliness and even though today she has a great shell to bear everything, it must be painful to endure so much hate and so much loneliness.
Thank you for this it really lays out everything that happened in a clear way. and uses her actual words instead of stories that are made up in antis heads. Hopefully more people watch it and realize.
Jessica's decision to have a fashion business is actually smart, a K-pop idol's career DOES NOT last, they venture into other things like acting, solo singing or businesses. Why is it other idols like Seungri or G-Dragon can have their own business or fashion line but Jessica could not. Her removal is an example of miscommunication, hurts so much how it ended. Her thinking "should I leave SNSD?" is pretty normal like I'm sure majority of the members thought that way in times of hardship but at the end of the day, its a THOUGHT. She did not deserve to get kicked out and blacklisted in Korean music. She was an unbelievable good singer and popular member, this is SM's and Girls' Generation's biggest mistake
Thank you so much for this. Like many others have said, it’s great to know that there are still people out here who will continuously fight for Jessica’s innocence and keep her relevant even all these years later. I’m sure Jessica appreciates it too given all she’s gone through. SM is notorious for favoring money over the actual human beings who have dedicated their lives to them, and unfortunately Jessica isn’t the first nor will she be the last to go through this. I wish I could personally tell her how proud we are of her that despite all the hurdles that have come her way, she’s still standing strong and living her dream (which is so admirable because it’s the same dream that has cost her so much mentally, physically, and financially). As much as SM or the other members of SNSD try to erase her from their history, it’s people like you who rightfully remind us why she was so popular in the first place and her legacy and achievements will never be forgotten. I wish her nothing but happiness and success in the future, and I can’t wait to see what she’ll continue to accomplish next. We’ll always be here to support our ice princess every step of the way❤️❤️
@@LikelyfairyBecause kpop is an industry. It's like saying Hollywood shouldn't allow blacklisting...when that's an impossible request due it's an industry. When money is involved, in anything, nothing matters and everything is allowed.
@@mel_zzz_ that still doesn’t justify the treatment she was given….. and blacklisting is usually the result of the artist doing something extremely outrageous, so please show me where Jessica has done something to warrant this level of exile 🤦🏽♀️
@@Likelyfairy It shocks me how easy it is for the big companies to blacklist someone. I think it is about flexing their power. If someone has done something really bad, like scandalous, there is no need to blacklist because other companies will not want to take the risk of association with that person. On the other hand, if someone does something that threatens the power of the big companies in the industry, then the big conpanies will blacklist to punish them and discourage anyone else from doing anything similar. It’s like the big companies have formed their own union, except that they are the bosses not the workers. So someone like Jessica, who is strong in many things, independent, has her own business outside the industry, writes novels, all those things - someone like her is showing the possibilities of power and independence for K-pop artists. And this threatens the basic exploitation business model of the big companies, who do not want the artists to have much leverage.
Being a long time Sone is so heartbreaking. I will forever feel like their legacy is tainted by this. Girl power at what cost yanno. I'm still supporting and I am cheering all of them on but...after having read her book, she made it abundantly clear that jealousy was involved. It sucks it went that far. And honestly, I can't act like I loved their concept change after Jessica left. More so reversion and that really hurt them. Although I knew it was because of the misogyny fueled ageism they faced, I hated how the cute concept was their move. If they slayed then I feel this would have blown over tbh
I got into Kpop by Red Velvet but later discovered SNSD. Then I found out about Jessica's situation. It always bothered me because even though SM always promote great artist with amazing vocals, they do have a shady history. I do hope one day all girls can reunite again. But in the meantime I'm going to enjoy Jessica's solo run! ❤ I'm a fan!!
One thing I will never forget and be grateful is for the Sones in Shenzhen. Back then in 2014 when she was kicked out, SNSD had a world tour and they went to perform in Shenzhen without Jessica and all the SONES kept screaming bring JESSICA BACK! I cried so much cause I felt that we fans really did voice what we wanted out. The Girls stood there bowed and apologised for a long minute and I know that in that moment they new SONES nearly left them. I believe that's why SM used the media to play her the villain or else our fandom would have been destroyed. I nearly quit Kpop and left the fandom too. I am still turn. Cause I still don't understand how Taeyeon, Yoona, Sunny, Tiffany, Seohyun, Sooyoung, Yuri and Hyoyeon could had abandoned Jessica. They always say that they are family. They lived together for so long and are closer than real family. I won't be able to understand. They said it was because SNSD should be a priority but look now close to 2024 and where is SNSD? I am not hating just sad and disappointed.
As someone also following SNSD since start, and liking them more and more over the years. What happened with Jessica just feels super strange! And I haven't really heard any good theory about why it happened like this. Especially since from the start it seemed she had ok from both management and group. Judging from the early statements around this, it seems as if things changed from within SNSD group, not from management side. But who knows. And the person senior in SNSD is obviously the leader TaeYeon. But I have no idea why she would be that harsh and put ultimatum that long after Jessica already started her fashion brand.
they ofc will not ruin the whole soshi bond for a second time. they must have learned from what happened with the whole jessica situation bcs A LOT sided with Jessica back then, they believed her words (I also do) till sm had to ruin it with all the media play lies about how she left bcs she was getting married etc… also hyoyeon recently said there was a time where she called the girls so they can do tiktok dance or more like "to come and show support" for her solo comeback but they never picked up. I believe their relationship is not more than coworkers and they got to act like they’re real friends for the public. I also think only taeyeon and tiffany are the closest other than that they seem like coworkers who only meet for group work
i always knew that k**kiel*t channel was shady. there were biases on her channel and a lot of those were just rumors and engagement baits. however, when we’re asking or finding for truth always remember there are 3 sides of stories and not just 2. it’s snsd’s side, sica’s and the truth. i support both but i condemn what fans try to make up false issues about this and it worsens the relationship. when sica was asked from a recent interview she was really avoiding and careful about it because there was a respect and the comprehension of those fans to twist the narrative was awful. i always say that “she was asked directly and the interviewers were respectful, she answered and that’s it” because when people or troll fans react badly, it makes some of us think it’s true.
@@burniiiiiing definitely. the audacity of these so-called fans to erase jessica from the moment they debuted. they cannot erase how vocally and lyrically she contributed with their songs.
@@beethehype There is a vocal channel that uses a lot of SNSD examples for comparison. Jessica isn't mentioned at all, or there is less mention of her.
jessica is and was from the start the victim, no one deserves to be treated as Jessica has been, what most people don't seem to get is she was the leader for good reason, she has always protected the other members stood by them defended them and been the one that kept them as one group, where are they now and what have any of the other girls done, i'll let you answer that, i loved all of them and still do but the proof is in the pudding as they say, i called jessica a while ago, a "sigma female", for good reason, these people stand tall wherever they are some choose to shy away, but rare ones like Jessica will not be stopped or silenced, and sadly as a consequence threaten people in authority without even trying, they fear no one why, because they are genuine and know destiny is with them always, i will stand by Jessica through thick and thin too, till the end, she is proving me right in every way, love you Jessica ❤
OT8 Sones are ✨wild✨ When SNSD was still OT9, Jessica had one of the biggest fanbases -- she was on the same stratosphere as YoonA But the moment she gets ousted for reasons not fully clear, they decided to not only abandon her but also tarnish her name All for what? Does destroying Jessica's reputation make the remaining 8 girls reputations better?? Because as a 2nd Gen OT9 SONE, I can clearly honestly admit that since Jessica's departure SNSD hasn't really had the same effect and popularity as they did during their OT9 days Sure their Legacy is there and "Forever 1" was heartwarming but their star as a group isn't as blindingly bright as it once was
@@animecookies8784 You do have a point, and I agree with most of it, but why not hate the biased information that was spread after Jessica got kicked out and that forever tarnished her image to the point of being completely removed from theKorean music industry? Why don't you denounce that? What Jessica went through is not comparable to the struggles of the other girls, of course they suffered, but it didn't have the same disastrous output as Jessica, she have no one to rely on, not the company or the girls, unlike OT8. Bfr. If you want to be completely objective you have to make each side accountable. But one thing that is really clear is that Jessica's removal accelerated SNSD's downfall, all that exists is thanks to the legacy Jessica helped to establish along with the other members in their golden years.
@@animecookies8784for one ot8 aren't blacklisted nor canceled. They got off completely free for what they did to Jessica. What world are you living in? Also Jessica WAS just as popular s yoona and taeyeon during snsd's peak years.
@@animecookies8784if only you can look at the mirror 🥱 then you can tell whos biased here. No one thinks SNSD is nothing without Jessica, but she is an important part of snsd just like every member, its not the same and it feels like something is "missing" when you compare OT9 to OT8 eras. You compare others experience during jessica's departure without looking at it from jessica's side and also the facts. You can say theres no confirmation on anything other than sica's words but its so obvious the girls arent/cant talk about her anymore due to legal stuffs so we can only rely on given info from sm and jess. Being a part of SNSD for years!! We all know the hardwork to train and debut for every idol so its obvious were torn about it going to waste because of jess's departure having no clarification as to how it happened, you would do the same for taeyeon, obviously your bias from ur comment 🙄
@lemonaidebey6190 as a fan since 2012 I disagree, Jessica was never as popular as Yoona or Taeyeon and there's literally nothing wrong with that she still was one of the most popular members just not the most popular, Yoona was the most popular one
SNSD became popular because if TaengSic melody. That is their selling point from the start. Tiffany is not even a good replacement for Jessica and Seohyun is only good for harmonizing. TaengSic melody attack is just another level.
This really made me hate fandoms so bad bc I hate that I believed the outting thing and thought that was the ONLY thing she was wrong for but nope, this girl was innocent through it ALL. Some people are just so viciously evil my god. I sent you a DM on tw about another lie they like to spread that you can add to your thread.
The narrative created to tarnish Jessica's image was insane. It's like people don't even remember anymore that she was one of the most popular members (especially in China) and how SM constantly put her as a second visual and center.
She is very popular in China, even higher than in South Korea. This is why she will come to China to develop. 2022 is the year when she will stand up again. She is very grateful to Chinese fans for cherishing everything here
Thank you for making this video. This reminds me of another popular video discussing her removal. I can't stand fans refusing to research this situation and just go with rumours. I always said this wasn't a black/white simple situation fans make it out to be, and no matter what Jessica didn't deserve this.
As an OG SONE (since 2009), I am fully ashamed of the same fans giving Jessica grief. ALL the girls deserve a life outside of the group & it sucks that it happened not long after she left. I still stand SNSD as whole but also individually thus don't have any hate towards the members. You can only do so much when your a product of a label esp SM & only a few of them really have stardom success out of the group ie: Taeyeon & Jessica. The others solo projects has not seen international success to the degree of SNSD and Taeyeon and Jessica thus, my assumption, the other girls could have been worried.
Me is Sone since 2011 it so sad many PPL really said that she 'wanted' to leave while she was actually kicked out from the group activities. Im so glad this video exist
amidst those years, i couldnt tell how she struggled, and to think she didnt have any contact with her other members in SNSD, they are separated thru their contracts, in which, SM really did dirty to her.
SM have no choice when 8 of them wanted her out and refused to share their stages with her anymore...SM need to protect their precious property "snsd"to make money, so Jessica must be the villain.
@@starrygoldensky they were telling people not to use jessica's book to shade the other members knowing damn well they encourage hate towards jessica in the comments all the time on tiktok and ive seen alot of snsd stan accounts do this and their bias is always yoona or something
@@isabear478 oh! thank you so much for explaining because i was confused. i always say that if people choose to take the drama in either of the fictional novels and apply it to the members, that's their own doing and not jessica's fault at all.
sm media play back then (and now) is disgusting. ngl sm is lowkey the worst big entertainment company in korea. from blacklisting to not paying artists and selling artists the hair/blood sample, its just overall very disgusting
Her first appearance after she got kicked out, she stated that she will never leave entertainment industry. But no, as always haters just see rumors not the truth. They rather believe the rumors because jessica will be the only one who is wrong. As long their idols are saints enough in their eyes lol 😂.
I don't know what's true and what's false, but I do know that since then, many other members of SNSD has left SM when their contracts expired but yet have not said anything about the circumstances surrounding Jessica's departure from the group. They were previously bound by their contracts with SM to maintain their silence but since some of them are no longer under contract, they can now speak up and tell the truth. They can even hang out with Jessica and post whatever photos taken with her on their social media. I don't see any of them doing any of that. I have to wonder why.
Simple, they don't talk about Jessica because it is in their interest and the group's interest not to. If a member talks directly about Jessica, this will lead to uncomfortable questions being asked about her removal/relationship and force other members to speak. Secondly by not explaining Jessica's removal there won't be discrepancies in the groups involvement in Jessica's removal. SM released an offical statement, if they say something contraire ,it will make SM look bad. Thirdly the smear campaign by SM and sones has allowed SNSD to win the PR battle so there no need for them to talk. At the end of the day the 8 remaining members individual and group career's has continued without road blocks even after Jessica's removal.
they dont talk about jessica beacause they know what they did was wrong, they know that if they talk about what they did to her, everyone is going to hate them
Jessica probably can't talk about a lot of it legally because of potentially signing stuff when she was released from her renewal with SM in 2015. I can't imagine the pain and how tumultuous that time period was for her. I'm so glad she's a designer, author and a soloist. Her music is so bright ❤
She used her Weibo statement and her two books to hint at what happened. If you don’t understand, you can only say that you don’t trust her. What she said has never changed.
Real talk, give me a quick tldr of why Jessica got kicked out of the group. You seem to be a huge fan of hers so you'd know more than me who stayed a GG fan throughout the years. Our narrative we had at the time was that Taeyeon didn't like her, so she and her clique within GG kicked Jess out. Not sure if that's true or not but I also never read Jess's books. And although I stayed a Krystal fan after F(x) went on indefinite hiatus she never talked about her sister's departure that much either.
it's kind of hard to give a tldr because i type a lot and it's not really a situation where everything can be covered in a short summary but i always refer to jessica's official statement on the matter, to summarize her official statement: she got removed from the group because a month after the launch of her brand, the members had a change of heart about her having a brand and being a girls' generation member. in september, the members gave her an ultimatum to either quit her business or leave the group. she told the members that she wouldn't choose because she wanted to do both and that the ultimatum was unfair, nor could she back out of her business due to finalizing contracts/commitments with business partners. jessica also went on to explain that her brand didn't interfere with girls' generation's activities. she also stated that she approached sm entertainment on september 15, 2014 for clarification about the ultimatum the members presented to her and sm entertainment gave her permission, for a second time, to continue on with her business activities. however, on september 29, 2014, jessica was given a notice by sm entertainment and the members informing her that she was no longer a member of the group and she was left out of all further group activities which is why she was absent from the shenzhen fanmeeting on september 30, 2014. jessica's official statement: www.soompi.com/article/656559wpp/jessica-issues-public-statement-following-girls-generation-departure jessica never singled out any specific member(s) for her removal, she consistently mentioned "eight others" or "eight members" when speaking about her removal from the group in her weibo post and her official statement.
@@starrygoldensky Gotcha thank you. So weird that we never really got a reason for it. Or why that ultimatum was given, or whether all members even agreed with the ultimatum. There's just so many holes in the reasoning that we'll probably never know the real reason unless the GG members talk about it. Because truth be told, I don't even think Jess knows the real reason she was kicked out. If SM gave her permission, it made no sense to kick her out later from a business standpoint either. Losing a popular member for what? All you'd do is lose money. Her business didn't interfere with her schedule, she wanted to continue, it's all very sus and hush hush.
@@eonfluxparadox jessica had everything to lose by posting on her weibo and by countering sm's statement with her own statement. she said all eight so i believe her when said all eight. it was a situation that involved her directly and firsthand so i think she would know better than we would. the ultimatum was supposedly given because they felt that she was prioritizing her business over girls' generation activities which is why they told her to either quit her business or leave the group. she told them that it was unfair for them to make her choose because she wanted to do both and that her brand/business activities didn't interfere with group activities. also, she couldn't just break contracts with business partners after finalizing them. i, personally, think that there was no justifiable for her removal, as she said herself. i think her removal was done based on emotions and personal feelings rather than wanting her out for a professional and justifiable reason. basically, the members didn't want to work with her anymore and sm chose what was more profitable, eight members versus one, regardless of who was in the right or wrong. i'd be interested in hearing what the members have to say about it, if they ever do choose to speak about it, but so far the nine year silence has been beneficial for them.
@@starrygoldensky I would also be interested in hearing what our girls have to say about it but I doubt they'll ever talk about it because tbh they probably didn't have a good reason to kick her out. And to tell everyone that they basically just wanted her to be all or nothing would look awful. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to say then it's better to say nothing at all. I've often wondered how Jess and the rest didn't get along, when some of them were so openly close to each other. Either way just based on how Krystal has never worked with or talked about any of the GG members even in her acting career goes to show that there's probably not any good blood between them. GG members always talk about every other group except for F(x) and openly avoid mentioning Jessica or Krystal. Going on an entire decade of silence.
@@eonfluxparadox Dispatch article claimed they interviewed 3 family/friends of the members that they spoke on their behalf. they already given the reasons at that article.
Could you please put subtitles in Brazilian Portuguese in the settings of this video, too? I would like to watch the video and better understand what is being said. Subtitles would help a lot
This would be good since many brazilians sones believe that there is no way the 8 could kick her out or that Sica is a horrible person when she just said the truth lol
I think the real problem is some people dislike Jessica for keep bringing up girls generations, and how by writing the book, she is saying that the other members of the group forced her to pick between designing or being in girls generation. this is clearly not the case, as what is shown in the video, because all other members were aware that Jessica was going to launch her brand and everyone will focus more on solo activities. and of course Jessica claims this book is pure friction. Meanwhile, the 8 members have never said anything about Jessica's departure and I am sure they are not allowed to say anything anyway, so they have to take it, whatever others accused them of doing. and this is slightly unfair. at the end of the day, no one in the public knows for sure what happened, and most likely its a corporate thing, not the first time SM treated their singers poorly and it was evidenced that Jessica was not allowed to participate in any music shows in Korea to promote her songs after being removed from the group, and luckily she is American so she could continue her career in China, where Koreans are banned due to America deploying the THAAD missile system in Korea. some fans also complained that Jessica spent more effort in her brand and designing than with SNSD, they say that she would return to Korea from USA like a day before some major event...i dont know, so there are other complains apart from those included in the video. And i understand where people are coming from, they probably support the group or have their own bias, SNSD is very successful because everyone of the member sacrificed individual fame for the sake of the group, and clearly Jessica was always a top 3 in popularity, with Taeyeon and Yoona. so I can understand why so fans might be not happy even with high popularity and resources, Jessica "seems" to get more freedom for individual things while others dont. Yoona has been extremely popular, but she has always gotten very few lines, her one line in "Oh!" is classic. But thats the sacrifice they will willing to accept in order to shine as a group. Sunny also clearly puts the group at number 1, and low key doing a lot of hard lifting, also see that a lot in the 2015 soshi variety show. I am writing a lot not because I dislike Jessica like some other fans, I love her and I just feel incredible sad and empty that she is not part of the group anymore. I respect and appreciate Jessica that she wants to do something different, but at the same time I also appreciate the rest of the members continue to keep SNSD together and forever, despite their busy schedules. Recently when MrMr reached 100M, and offical GG instagram posted a post with the 8 members but didn't include Jessica, I was really upset and annoyed. So as many TV shows or interview where they somehow have to find old songs footage and make sure Jessica is not in the frame. This is awful, the fact that the entire korean industry is afraid of showing current SNSD together with Jessica means that the whole thing is much bigger than what we fans can imagine. It is out of the control of the members or Jessica, behind the scene there is an invisible hand controlling everything. As i said jessica is one of the most popular members in SNSD (everyone is very popular tho), I cant imagine the success SNSD would continue to have if 930 never happened, and 9 members returned for forever1 last year. But sometimes the world is not perfect, and majority of the people around can only accept things, instead of controlling things. I hope that the hardcore fans of current SNSD or Jessica can accept this fact and stop attacking each other. And I am waiting for the day where 9 members will reunite together. everything is possible, just like how SNSD rose when no one believed that girl groups could achieve the same results male groups can back then...and SM is apparently in a huge mess now.
lol sooyoung after 930 posted about the other 8 being dependable sisters while jessica was missing from the public, snsd have shaded jessica. really wish yall would stop bringing up jessica putting more effort on her brand than snsd when snsd barely had any scheds n she only had few solo scheds when preparing her brand, she was only selling scraves and sunglasses too, b&e was obviously just a side job for her at that time.
@@aa1944-k2r im not even attacking you? literally was just explaining that they did say sht after 930 and how jessica not prioritizing snsd is harmful to her when its not true.
Dispatch article said 8 members claimed they were not aware of Jessica's plan of her brand which the same as what happened in her book. the video just prove that they were lying about that.
to summarize jessica's official statement: she got removed from the group because a month after the launch of her brand, the members had a change of heart about her having a brand and being a girls' generation member. in september, the members gave her an ultimatum to either quit her business or leave the group. she told the members that she wouldn't choose because she wanted to do both and that the ultimatum was unfair, nor could she back out of her business due to finalizing contracts/commitments with business partners. jessica also went on to explain that her brand didn't interfere with girls' generation's activities. she also stated that she approached sm entertainment on september 15, 2014 for clarification about the ultimatum the members presented to her and sm entertainment gave her permission, for a second time, to continue on with her business activities. however, on september 29, 2014, jessica was given a notice by sm entertainment and the members informing her that she was no longer a member of the group and she was left out of all further group activities which is why she was absent from the shenzhen fanmeeting on september 30, 2014. jessica's official statement: www.soompi.com/article/656559wpp/jessica-issues-public-statement-following-girls-generation-departure as for the blacklisting, here is a really good thread, if you're interested in reading it: twitter.com/WithLoveGS/status/1403446465876434949
Im still half-hearted about this tragic story. Up to this day we only hear one side of the story, Jessica's story. Even when she claimed that her book is fictional its clearly about what she went through when she's still in the group. Im still annoyed when new fans especially the fans that are stanning them from the very beginning painting Taeyeon as the mastermind/villain as if she have a complete full authority to kick out a member, at the end of the day even she's the leader of SNSD she's still an employee of SM and had to follow orders. We will never know if we can ever hear the other side of the story, the 8 members side of the story. Maybe SM made them signed a NDA contract to never speak on what really happen about 9/30 and made them act as if Jessica doesn't exist from their past discograpies. This is a tragic story for both fans and the 9 girls which SM made them to go behind their backs, pitted them to each other and completely tarnished their reputation for their greedy agendas. (Until I heard both side of the story, I will forever blame SM about 9/30)
despite hearing only jessica's side, her side is at least corroborated. it's not fair at all for anyone to be painted as a villain or singled out when jessica said "eight others" and "eight members" in her weibo post and official statement. so, it's unfortunate that the whole "_______ masterminded jessica's removal" narrative was created and people ran with it because of the awkwardness between the two but it also goes beyond the fandom and people enjoy bandwagon hating. also, the whole voting rumor actually originated from sones, c-sones to be exact, they wrote about it on a forum called baidu tieba. there's a very popular video on here about jessica's removal and the creator of the video pointed out where the voting rumor stemmed from and it stemmed from their own fandom. jessica was also a sm employee and a member of the group, the situation involved her first-hand, and she explicitly stated that the company gave her permission to do girls' generation activities and continue on with her brand, not only once but twice. she got permission for a second time after approaching sm entertainment for clarification in regards to the ultimatum the members presented to her - sm deserves their fair share of blame but i'm going to believe jessica about the members' involvement in her removal because if she lied about it in anyway, she would have gotten sued and she was never sued nor did sm entertainment ever refute her weibo post or official statement. so, by the members being involved in her removal, she directly said that all eight did have the authority to voice their opinions in regards to her removal and the members mentioned on a 2009 episode of radio star that the members' opinions take prioritization in regards to the group. jessica's removal is not just a jessica vs sm entertainment situation as people want to believe it to be or wish for it to be. it's saddening to think that the people jessica toiled alongside to build the group's legacy were involved in her removal but that's something that people need to come to terms with. i would be interested in hearing the members' side if they ever decide to speak up but i fully believe jessica, considering that they've been silent for nine years, regardless of if a nda is in place or not, because jessica's side of the story is substantiated and corroborated and sm entertainment had to rely on a smear campaign to tarnish her image and reputation so the general public would stop questioning what happened and they bought into it, it also doesn't help that the sone fandom aided in tarnishing jessica's image and reputation either. i mean, at the end of the day, people will choose to believe what they want but i believe it's a huge disservice to jessica to overlook what she's said about a situation that personally involved her.
if what Jessica said about snsd were wrong, sm would have been denied it right away and also forced other 8 to speak out loud how evil was Jessica to justified why other8 want her out of snsd already.
Jessica said her side and SM didn't sue her. Even Suju talks about former members, sn8d simply pretende she was never in the group because they want to.
I am actually shocked to learn that so many Sones have villainized her. I suppose I thought everyone felt the same way I did in being hurt by what happened on Jessica's behalf but not having ill-will towards Jessica OR the remaining 8 girls. No one on the outside really knows why or how it happened and I take into account that SM is a powerful company that none of the girls could stand up to if they really wanted to. It's complicated and it's not black and white and we don't truly know how the girls feel because of the NDA and blackballing SM has done. I still dream of a timeline where none of it happened and they are still OT9 but I know it is foolish to think I can change history, and I understand that the girls have moved on and they all deserve happiness and success. I don't know them personally even if I have known them for 13 years now, but they are all real humans with thoughts and feelings that I have no business knowing. But life goes on. I just feel sad that it went down the way it did, or that it ever happened at all. HOWEVER, I am glad Jessica is continuing to sing and reaching out into China where she has a big fanbase because she couldn't get anywhere in Korea, sadly. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and clearing up the misinformation.
obviously, sm was not the one wanted Jessica out from the beginning...SM just pick 8 over 1 to protect SNSD brand name to reduce further lost...u say like sm wanted her out and ot8 chose not to stand up but ot8 were the one proposed to remove Jessica otherwise they won't attend group activities...
because that question has nothing to do with debunking the lies told about her. according to jessica's billboard interview, she hasn't seen them in several years. this interview was on may 17, 2016. "It’s been almost ten years since you debuted as a member of Girls’ Generation. How do you feel about your past, present and future? I’ll always cherish my time as a member of Girls’ Generation. I haven’t seen them in several years but I really wish them the best." www.billboard.com/music/music-news/jessica-jung-solo-album-girls-generation-interview-7377337/
@@Ish-c1h9v they didn't spend much time together compare to other members and they were like acquaintance than friend...I don't think she had that much expectation to her...
If SM Entertainment wasn't itself against her starting the fashion brand, who was? Someone else without the SNSD group? Is there any speculation on what reasons there could be? I mean, this seems like the elephant in the room that is not being discussed or?
SM probably wanted to get revenues from, it or manage if financially and she refused. Look at EXO CBX this year, they have zero effing idea of how they are being paid. They don't see the color of the money they make, you're paid X, no explanations. I guess just asking for transparency is making SM sweat. Idols may realise they are worth more than what they are paid. But SM can blacklist you if you don't comply.
@@tdelioncourt1268 it was the members and their parents wanted money from her brand profit...not long ago, Korean reporter bought this incident out again when Jessica join that china show, this was what he said( even tho he was trying to say negative things about Jessica)
Imagining you spending 14 years of your life for something you really love to do and suddenly you can't even do it anymore in your own country, needs to be really stupid to just say "It is what it is"
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I just don’t understand how Jessica was made to be the villain in this ordeal. She was absolutely betrayed by SM and her members. She dedicated 14 years of her life to the group, she was such an integral member (literally had the second most amount of lines for 14 years straight, whether she was a member or not) and yet she was abruptly removed, slandered and blacklisted in the industry. All this for what? Pursuing a solo career outside snsd (be it for fashion or music) and not focusing enough on the group? Something every single member was already doing or about to do? Mind you snsd were nowhere near as active post 9/30 as they were pre 9/30 so Jessica’s removal was wholly unnecessary based on the reasons that were provided.
To this day the current members can happily go about their individual careers and lives with the snsd legacy alongside them, but Jessica cannot. She deserves to be able to bear the fruits of her labour, not to be treated as a pariah. It’s been almost 10 years and yet they still won’t stop. The recent congratulatory post for the Mr Mr music video reaching 100 million views being proof of this: cutting out Jessica’s face even though she was a member at the time and is the crux of the chorus. I’m so proud of Jessica’s achievements as a solo artist despite being blacklisted in SK but I still can’t get over the fact that she was wronged on every level.
And it’s so sad because nowadays idols having their own brands is so common. Why did she get demonized so bad puzzles me to this day
@@Likelyfairy it almost feels like the company and members know it was a dumb and hasty decision (because like you said: her endeavours are so normalized now for other idols), but to save face - the narrative that Jessica was a problem is much easier for the company/groups image and much easier for current fans to digest. Because god forbid the other members be painted in a negative light, regardless of how Jessica was thrown to the wolves. Anyone with common sense and the ability to see how active the group was post 2015 can see that there was no need to remove Jessica for “not focusing enough on group activities” as there were barely any releases/shows after her removal.
@@harleen8645 100% agree with your take
Didn't SM even gave her permission and supported her? There is probably much deeper thing between them that led to this situation.
It is so heartwarming to see there are still fans who is willing to give their support for Jessica through thick and thin. We have come a long way but our girl is still standing tall amidst the chaotic darkness. She will shine no matter what because truth is our strength and best weapon. Unlike some, Jessica and golden stars do not need to fabricate lies and fake stories to protect a cracked image that’ll never be recovered again.
"fabricate lies and fake stories to protect a cracked image"
who are you referring to? Just spell it out pls I don't need hints. Thanks
@@VL-yb5xyobviously she is referring to ot8 snsd fans who likes to makes excuses and fake rumours and nothing else
I’ve always have my heart for snsd. They’re my ultimate group bias but I know in my heart that Jessica was indeed kicked out. Jessica’s statement has always been consistent, it just a shame it comes to this. Jessica wasn’t even my bias in snsd but I was really devastated when it happened, I’ve always thought that all members will last.
I’m so tired of people spreading lies about Jessica’s books and didn’t even read them! I just finished Shine and bright and she was def neutral about her and her members. There was miscommunication on both ends for sure and unfortunately led to her being kicked out. I feel so bad for Jessica and hope one day the truth comes out and people will give her a break, she doesn’t deserve that backlash especially after 10 YEARS. These OT8 stans act like 12 year olds when I’m pretty sure most are 20+ yrs old or new fans. The immaturity is insanee with these “sones” like grow tf up! Also to ppl saying it’s like a teen writing the book like a wattpad writer, I think she’s writing it based on her age during the time of her book, she was only 16-21 yrs old (correct me if I’m wrong) and I think it’s written on her POV at those eras in her life. Without a doubt she’s probably still living in her teen years since her childhood was taken since 11 as a trainee having to act professional all the time.
Thank you. Because the internet is inaccessible in the second generation, the fans' main source is frequently the biased big accounts that enjoy twisting Jessica's words.All the allegations ksones spread about Jessica's removal have been debunked long ago, like the marriage and fashion school that never happened, but sadly, a lot of fans still believe them, so I'm really happy that you are debunking those lies with receipts. Thank you for this and your voice is lovely.💗
the clubbing one always makes me the most angry because most of the people blaming her for it weren't around when those pictures actually came out. sm so quickly debunked them that everyone moved on immediately, there was no backlash or anything against yoona or taeyeon, so what is there to be angry about?
i did hear that antis tried to use the clubbing controversy against the group or taeyeon and yoona. yoona was even asked about it at an event in 2014 but she stayed silent... but again, not jessica's fault. however, as you said, it was debunked and for the most part, people moved on from it until her removal from the group happened and then people began to speculate that it was her then the koreaboo article in 2015 only stirred things back up.
regardless, there's no one to blame but the media and i find it ridiculous that people try to use this controversy as some kind of "gotcha!" moment when it was clarified.
Even if the clubbing one was true, it'd be relatable and funny. They were young women in their 20s, they're allowed to have fun and not be constantly perfect. geez I've done much worse.
AND even if it were true, SO WHAT? They're allowed to have fun. OMG
this seems like such a nasty combo of misogyny and worker abuse. i wish her the best.
man this is so sad, both these sister get hate from public for no reason. I hope she finds actual fans who love her & support her forever
Big Sone accounts were another members’ fans, even KSones, Soy from Soshified, & biggest Vietnamese Sone fanpage. So at the time they spread biased and false rumors to destroy Jessica’s reputation. These false rumors were spread by SM mediaplay and big Sone accounts to the point that all Sones saw it and thought it were facts. It is just sad that certain Sones still spread and believe these false rumors. Honestly, there was a time I believe in a few of them too because I keep seeing it.
Opps, I forgot the infamous fake insiders oniontaker and Samchon that even got on AllKpop and other international K-pop news pages😅
@@mimixoxo461 these two fake insider were responsible for tarnishing tara which once was one of snsd's competitors as well.
Agreed. Jessica is very unfairly treated by Kookielit and other commenters who claim to have inside knowledge of the situation. Jessica is resilient and cheerful in spite of the unfounded negativity. She is multi-talented and the most accomplished Soshi by far.
@@stuguy2 Jessica also writes, makes music and acts, maybe you should look further
fuck Kookielift, me and my homies hate that fraud
@@bunnywar make music? you mean sing?
It's perfectly fine to keep calling herself a singer. I think music making is a rather different profession that she rarely seems to involve in.
@@VL-yb5xywriting lyrics and melodies is making music
@@bunnywar which songs did she write melodies?
Are there many of them, if only one or two songs then that's not a serious job compared to her singing.
(I'm not interested in lyrics, anyone can write that)
She's been through so much :((( I'm so in awe of the way she refused to give up and is still singing and designing both
Jessica's removal affected her in two ways, professionally and personally . The decision to remove her was caused by the members complaints/concerns to management when Jessica refused OT8 direct ultimatum. Management then sided with OT8 instigating her removal. The thing which is disappointing is the blacklisting Jessica faced for explaining directly her removal.
The lack of support from the members was awful. Professionally they isolated her. They ended her main job which was being a member of SNSD. In a blink of an eye , what Jessica had planned for the next three years following her contract extension disappeared. From SNSD, duo album with Krystal and her tv show, but most of all she was denied the use of the SNSD name to enhance her individual activities as the other members have done.
Personally I believe there is no relationship between Jessica and any of the members. The day Jessica was told she was no longer a member , was the day the trust between her and members was completely broken. In the past ten years I find it slightly distasteful when the OT8 talk about their sisterhood, supporting each unconditionally and they are not jealous of each other and only wish each other success. It seems to be a theme in their interviews when talking about SNSD. They constantly seem to feel the need to remind people so to mask the fact they did the opposite for Jessica .
snsd are not the epitome of sisterhood in the slightest, they gladly chose to kick jessica out, not caring how jessica felt and how she never wanted to leave, they were all fine with solo activities until jessica was getting more successful, they're co-workers or just friends, but not sisters
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I don't get people saying she didn't want to sing and wasn't kicked out. Like hello? Catch Me If You Can OT9 version and Divine MVs are out there! Why would she be featured on a full album and 2 main MVs that forced SM to reshoot everything if it was part of the plan to stop?
Anyway stream Get it Got it Good
Also, she and Krystal were supposed to be in a unit. They literally finished making an album as well.
But I think why people thought that. Creating a fashion line is extremely time-consuming, so they must have assumed that she wanted to leave or something.
It would be nice if this video was also on weibo. Everyone needs to know how these lies started, and that Jessica is not to blame for this.
I'm extremely surprised by how Korea literally bashed Jessica when she got kicked out. When B.i got kicked out, there was so much support for him. It just shows that misogyny is quite real in here.
I'm just can't imagine how they call themselves "SONE" if they hate one of the members 🙄 I mean you're not a sone then~ OT9 FOREVER 💗💗
Absolutely right.. SONE means that they love all members
ot9 stan r casual as always, she is not part of snsd anymore. If you are her fans go ahead why bringing snsd up. For you she is a sweetheart idc, for us she just a b. She wrote a novel full of drama, make herself a queen and make others villain, even some of the members have to make a respond to that
@@SERIOUSLEE774 "even some of the members have to make a respond to that"
source???
@@ywc9644 taeyeon did through her ig after the drama of her second novel
@@SERIOUSLEE774 Then your idols are b**** too.. They are actress and you are fool to think your idols are saints all the time.
This video made me cry SO FREAKING MUCH.
Uhm, firstly because I have been following GIRLS GENERATION since 2010 and it was part of my childhood and teenage years. Jessica was always my ultimate bias in the group, and I really missed her in the years when she was extremely and strictly hurt, judged by the fandom.
And for me it becomes even more personal because I have been living the most sensitive phase of my life for 2 years. I'm completely vulnerable and sick, i feel like at any moment the floor is going to give way and I'm going to collapse into tears. The friendships I had, unfortunately disappeared, and I never stopped being a person who wished the best things to others and who, whenever possible, supported them. I know how Jessica feels when it comes to being alone, even though she has a sister, a family, she also feels loneliness and even though today she has a great shell to bear everything, it must be painful to endure so much hate and so much loneliness.
Thank you for this it really lays out everything that happened in a clear way. and uses her actual words instead of stories that are made up in antis heads. Hopefully more people watch it and realize.
The real SONE experience is feeling torn apart... I'll keep supporting Jessica no matter what.
Jessica's decision to have a fashion business is actually smart, a K-pop idol's career DOES NOT last, they venture into other things like acting, solo singing or businesses. Why is it other idols like Seungri or G-Dragon can have their own business or fashion line but Jessica could not. Her removal is an example of miscommunication, hurts so much how it ended. Her thinking "should I leave SNSD?" is pretty normal like I'm sure majority of the members thought that way in times of hardship but at the end of the day, its a THOUGHT. She did not deserve to get kicked out and blacklisted in Korean music. She was an unbelievable good singer and popular member, this is SM's and Girls' Generation's biggest mistake
Thank you for this 🥹 All your video are so details and clear. Thanks for your hardwork 🥺
Thank you so much for this. Like many others have said, it’s great to know that there are still people out here who will continuously fight for Jessica’s innocence and keep her relevant even all these years later. I’m sure Jessica appreciates it too given all she’s gone through. SM is notorious for favoring money over the actual human beings who have dedicated their lives to them, and unfortunately Jessica isn’t the first nor will she be the last to go through this. I wish I could personally tell her how proud we are of her that despite all the hurdles that have come her way, she’s still standing strong and living her dream (which is so admirable because it’s the same dream that has cost her so much mentally, physically, and financially). As much as SM or the other members of SNSD try to erase her from their history, it’s people like you who rightfully remind us why she was so popular in the first place and her legacy and achievements will never be forgotten. I wish her nothing but happiness and success in the future, and I can’t wait to see what she’ll continue to accomplish next. We’ll always be here to support our ice princess every step of the way❤️❤️
I'm so glad Jessica is focusing on China now instead of Korea since Korea clearly ditched her for lies.
Yeah and I hope she is making bank and living her best life which it seems she is now and love her new song
It’s embarrassing that kpop has allowed that type of blacklisting to exist… you would think she committed a crime
@@LikelyfairyBecause kpop is an industry. It's like saying Hollywood shouldn't allow blacklisting...when that's an impossible request due it's an industry. When money is involved, in anything, nothing matters and everything is allowed.
@@mel_zzz_ that still doesn’t justify the treatment she was given….. and blacklisting is usually the result of the artist doing something extremely outrageous, so please show me where Jessica has done something to warrant this level of exile 🤦🏽♀️
@@Likelyfairy It shocks me how easy it is for the big companies to blacklist someone. I think it is about flexing their power. If someone has done something really bad, like scandalous, there is no need to blacklist because other companies will not want to take the risk of association with that person. On the other hand, if someone does something that threatens the power of the big companies in the industry, then the big conpanies will blacklist to punish them and discourage anyone else from doing anything similar. It’s like the big companies have formed their own union, except that they are the bosses not the workers. So someone like Jessica, who is strong in many things, independent, has her own business outside the industry, writes novels, all those things - someone like her is showing the possibilities of power and independence for K-pop artists. And this threatens the basic exploitation business model of the big companies, who do not want the artists to have much leverage.
Being a long time Sone is so heartbreaking. I will forever feel like their legacy is tainted by this. Girl power at what cost yanno. I'm still supporting and I am cheering all of them on but...after having read her book, she made it abundantly clear that jealousy was involved. It sucks it went that far. And honestly, I can't act like I loved their concept change after Jessica left. More so reversion and that really hurt them. Although I knew it was because of the misogyny fueled ageism they faced, I hated how the cute concept was their move. If they slayed then I feel this would have blown over tbh
I got into Kpop by Red Velvet but later discovered SNSD. Then I found out about Jessica's situation. It always bothered me because even though SM always promote great artist with amazing vocals, they do have a shady history. I do hope one day all girls can reunite again. But in the meantime I'm going to enjoy Jessica's solo run! ❤ I'm a fan!!
One thing I will never forget and be grateful is for the Sones in Shenzhen. Back then in 2014 when she was kicked out, SNSD had a world tour and they went to perform in Shenzhen without Jessica and all the SONES kept screaming bring JESSICA BACK! I cried so much cause I felt that we fans really did voice what we wanted out. The Girls stood there bowed and apologised for a long minute and I know that in that moment they new SONES nearly left them.
I believe that's why SM used the media to play her the villain or else our fandom would have been destroyed. I nearly quit Kpop and left the fandom too.
I am still turn. Cause I still don't understand how Taeyeon, Yoona, Sunny, Tiffany, Seohyun, Sooyoung, Yuri and Hyoyeon could had abandoned Jessica. They always say that they are family. They lived together for so long and are closer than real family.
I won't be able to understand. They said it was because SNSD should be a priority but look now close to 2024 and where is SNSD?
I am not hating just sad and disappointed.
As someone also following SNSD since start, and liking them more and more over the years. What happened with Jessica just feels super strange! And I haven't really heard any good theory about why it happened like this. Especially since from the start it seemed she had ok from both management and group. Judging from the early statements around this, it seems as if things changed from within SNSD group, not from management side. But who knows. And the person senior in SNSD is obviously the leader TaeYeon. But I have no idea why she would be that harsh and put ultimatum that long after Jessica already started her fashion brand.
sorry but they never performed in singapore as 8 😭
they ofc will not ruin the whole soshi bond for a second time. they must have learned from what happened with the whole jessica situation bcs A LOT sided with Jessica back then, they believed her words (I also do) till sm had to ruin it with all the media play lies about how she left bcs she was getting married etc… also hyoyeon recently said there was a time where she called the girls so they can do tiktok dance or more like "to come and show support" for her solo comeback but they never picked up. I believe their relationship is not more than coworkers and they got to act like they’re real friends for the public. I also think only taeyeon and tiffany are the closest other than that they seem like coworkers who only meet for group work
@@honeymoonfades2121I think they might be thinking of shenzen not Singapore
@@revehugs9604no but after all those years they still didnt feel anything at least toward sica? Im so dissapointed.
i always knew that k**kiel*t channel was shady. there were biases on her channel and a lot of those were just rumors and engagement baits. however, when we’re asking or finding for truth always remember there are 3 sides of stories and not just 2. it’s snsd’s side, sica’s and the truth. i support both but i condemn what fans try to make up false issues about this and it worsens the relationship.
when sica was asked from a recent interview she was really avoiding and careful about it because there was a respect and the comprehension of those fans to twist the narrative was awful. i always say that “she was asked directly and the interviewers were respectful, she answered and that’s it” because when people or troll fans react badly, it makes some of us think it’s true.
snsd's side: they pretend she was never in the group
@@burniiiiiing definitely. the audacity of these so-called fans to erase jessica from the moment they debuted. they cannot erase how vocally and lyrically she contributed with their songs.
@@beethehype There is a vocal channel that uses a lot of SNSD examples for comparison. Jessica isn't mentioned at all, or there is less mention of her.
Thank you so much for making this video for Jessica ❤️❤️
jessica is and was from the start the victim, no one deserves to be treated as Jessica has been, what most people don't seem to get is she was the leader for good reason, she has always protected the other members stood by them defended them and been the one that kept them as one group, where are they now and what have any of the other girls done, i'll let you answer that, i loved all of them and still do but the proof is in the pudding as they say, i called jessica a while ago, a "sigma female", for good reason, these people stand tall wherever they are some choose to shy away, but rare ones like Jessica will not be stopped or silenced, and sadly as a consequence threaten people in authority without even trying, they fear no one why, because they are genuine and know destiny is with them always, i will stand by Jessica through thick and thin too, till the end, she is proving me right in every way, love you Jessica ❤
Thank you so much for debunking all of this. Some S*NEs are still insistent on her leaving her group while it's not true at all.
OT8 Sones are ✨wild✨
When SNSD was still OT9, Jessica had one of the biggest fanbases -- she was on the same stratosphere as YoonA
But the moment she gets ousted for reasons not fully clear, they decided to not only abandon her but also tarnish her name
All for what? Does destroying Jessica's reputation make the remaining 8 girls reputations better??
Because as a 2nd Gen OT9 SONE, I can clearly honestly admit that since Jessica's departure SNSD hasn't really had the same effect and popularity as they did during their OT9 days
Sure their Legacy is there and "Forever 1" was heartwarming but their star as a group isn't as blindingly bright as it once was
@@animecookies8784 You do have a point, and I agree with most of it, but why not hate the biased information that was spread after Jessica got kicked out and that forever tarnished her image to the point of being completely removed from theKorean music industry? Why don't you denounce that? What Jessica went through is not comparable to the struggles of the other girls, of course they suffered, but it didn't have the same disastrous output as Jessica, she have no one to rely on, not the company or the girls, unlike OT8. Bfr. If you want to be completely objective you have to make each side accountable. But one thing that is really clear is that Jessica's removal accelerated SNSD's downfall, all that exists is thanks to the legacy Jessica helped to establish along with the other members in their golden years.
@@animecookies8784for one ot8 aren't blacklisted nor canceled. They got off completely free for what they did to Jessica. What world are you living in? Also Jessica WAS just as popular s yoona and taeyeon during snsd's peak years.
@@animecookies8784if only you can look at the mirror 🥱 then you can tell whos biased here. No one thinks SNSD is nothing without Jessica, but she is an important part of snsd just like every member, its not the same and it feels like something is "missing" when you compare OT9 to OT8 eras.
You compare others experience during jessica's departure without looking at it from jessica's side and also the facts. You can say theres no confirmation on anything other than sica's words but its so obvious the girls arent/cant talk about her anymore due to legal stuffs so we can only rely on given info from sm and jess. Being a part of SNSD for years!! We all know the hardwork to train and debut for every idol so its obvious were torn about it going to waste because of jess's departure having no clarification as to how it happened, you would do the same for taeyeon, obviously your bias from ur comment 🙄
@lemonaidebey6190 as a fan since 2012 I disagree, Jessica was never as popular as Yoona or Taeyeon and there's literally nothing wrong with that she still was one of the most popular members just not the most popular, Yoona was the most popular one
SNSD became popular because if TaengSic melody. That is their selling point from the start. Tiffany is not even a good replacement for Jessica and Seohyun is only good for harmonizing. TaengSic melody attack is just another level.
Thank you for this video, I really appreciate the receipts and I hope it continues to spread
thank you! also, i love baking/decorating vlogs so you've earned yourself a subscriber! ♡
@@starrygoldensky awn you’re so sweet, thank you 🥹♥️ and of course I’m subscribed to you for all things Jessica 💕
This really made me hate fandoms so bad bc I hate that I believed the outting thing and thought that was the ONLY thing she was wrong for but nope, this girl was innocent through it ALL. Some people are just so viciously evil my god.
I sent you a DM on tw about another lie they like to spread that you can add to your thread.
The narrative created to tarnish Jessica's image was insane. It's like people don't even remember anymore that she was one of the most popular members (especially in China) and how SM constantly put her as a second visual and center.
She is very popular in China, even higher than in South Korea. This is why she will come to China to develop. 2022 is the year when she will stand up again. She is very grateful to Chinese fans for cherishing everything here
Thank u for this 😩👍🏻🤝🏻☝🏻
Thank you! What happened to Jessica was pure cruelty. She was a victim and still got blamed
Thank you for making this video. This reminds me of another popular video discussing her removal. I can't stand fans refusing to research this situation and just go with rumours. I always said this wasn't a black/white simple situation fans make it out to be, and no matter what Jessica didn't deserve this.
Thank you for this! I hope this reaches the target audience.
As an OG SONE (since 2009), I am fully ashamed of the same fans giving Jessica grief. ALL the girls deserve a life outside of the group & it sucks that it happened not long after she left. I still stand SNSD as whole but also individually thus don't have any hate towards the members. You can only do so much when your a product of a label esp SM & only a few of them really have stardom success out of the group ie: Taeyeon & Jessica. The others solo projects has not seen international success to the degree of SNSD and Taeyeon and Jessica thus, my assumption, the other girls could have been worried.
Me is Sone since 2011 it so sad many PPL really said that she 'wanted' to leave while she was actually kicked out from the group activities. Im so glad this video exist
Thanks for the video OP!!!
That's why I dislike sones nowadays
Yeah they were sooo annoying especially when twice got popular im glad they ended up as the nations girls group and eventually gg moved on
One of the worst fandom indeed
@@burniiiiiing💯!
Thank you for this
Thank you so much! This video has summed up what netizens or sones have thrown at jessica.
Good job. Thank you so much!
I'm always on her side❤❤❤
amidst those years, i couldnt tell how she struggled, and to think she didnt have any contact with her other members in SNSD, they are separated thru their contracts, in which, SM really did dirty to her.
SM have no choice when 8 of them wanted her out and refused to share their stages with her anymore...SM need to protect their precious property "snsd"to make money, so Jessica must be the villain.
Thank you for sharing this❤
Always team Jessica
Thank you for this! I
cuz i was noticing how shady they where being and they act stupid when people confront them and be like ??? girl
what happened? 😯
@@starrygoldensky they were telling people not to use jessica's book to shade the other members knowing damn well they encourage hate towards jessica in the comments all the time on tiktok and ive seen alot of snsd stan accounts do this and their bias is always yoona or something
@@isabear478 oh! thank you so much for explaining because i was confused. i always say that if people choose to take the drama in either of the fictional novels and apply it to the members, that's their own doing and not jessica's fault at all.
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thank you for making this video! Sones ot8 are the worst.
12:40 the way i used to believe this ijbol 🤡🤡🤡
thank u
Thank you thank you thank you! For your attention to detail!
Imagine citing SM's word or Koreaboo as evidence to back up your opinion.
That's the space that these Jessica haters live in.
Thank you ❤❤❤
sm media play back then (and now) is disgusting. ngl sm is lowkey the worst big entertainment company in korea. from blacklisting to not paying artists and selling artists the hair/blood sample, its just overall very disgusting
I haven't seen anyone defend Jessica in nearly 10 years since she was kicked so thank you @starrygoldensky ❤
Her first appearance after she got kicked out, she stated that she will never leave entertainment industry. But no, as always haters just see rumors not the truth. They rather believe the rumors because jessica will be the only one who is wrong. As long their idols are saints enough in their eyes lol 😂.
I don't know what's true and what's false, but I do know that since then, many other members of SNSD has left SM when their contracts expired but yet have not said anything about the circumstances surrounding Jessica's departure from the group. They were previously bound by their contracts with SM to maintain their silence but since some of them are no longer under contract, they can now speak up and tell the truth. They can even hang out with Jessica and post whatever photos taken with her on their social media. I don't see any of them doing any of that. I have to wonder why.
Simple, they don't talk about Jessica because it is in their interest and the group's interest not to. If a member talks directly about Jessica, this will lead to uncomfortable questions being asked about her removal/relationship and force other members to speak. Secondly by not explaining Jessica's removal there won't be discrepancies in the groups involvement in Jessica's removal. SM released an offical statement, if they say something contraire ,it will make SM look bad. Thirdly the smear campaign by SM and sones has allowed SNSD to win the PR battle so there no need for them to talk. At the end of the day the 8 remaining members individual and group career's has continued without road blocks even after Jessica's removal.
they dont talk about jessica beacause they know what they did was wrong, they know that if they talk about what they did to her, everyone is going to hate them
Jessica probably can't talk about a lot of it legally because of potentially signing stuff when she was released from her renewal with SM in 2015. I can't imagine the pain and how tumultuous that time period was for her. I'm so glad she's a designer, author and a soloist. Her music is so bright ❤
She used her Weibo statement and her two books to hint at what happened. If you don’t understand, you can only say that you don’t trust her. What she said has never changed.
#제시카 #수업 #느린 #소녀시대💗
Tanks for spreed the trueeee ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤
Thank you
SONE HERE.. I LOVE ALL THE GIRLS
Real talk, give me a quick tldr of why Jessica got kicked out of the group. You seem to be a huge fan of hers so you'd know more than me who stayed a GG fan throughout the years. Our narrative we had at the time was that Taeyeon didn't like her, so she and her clique within GG kicked Jess out. Not sure if that's true or not but I also never read Jess's books. And although I stayed a Krystal fan after F(x) went on indefinite hiatus she never talked about her sister's departure that much either.
it's kind of hard to give a tldr because i type a lot and it's not really a situation where everything can be covered in a short summary but i always refer to jessica's official statement on the matter, to summarize her official statement:
she got removed from the group because a month after the launch of her brand, the members had a change of heart about her having a brand and being a girls' generation member.
in september, the members gave her an ultimatum to either quit her business or leave the group. she told the members that she wouldn't choose because she wanted to do both and that the ultimatum was unfair, nor could she back out of her business due to finalizing contracts/commitments with business partners. jessica also went on to explain that her brand didn't interfere with girls' generation's activities.
she also stated that she approached sm entertainment on september 15, 2014 for clarification about the ultimatum the members presented to her and sm entertainment gave her permission, for a second time, to continue on with her business activities.
however, on september 29, 2014, jessica was given a notice by sm entertainment and the members informing her that she was no longer a member of the group and she was left out of all further group activities which is why she was absent from the shenzhen fanmeeting on september 30, 2014.
jessica's official statement: www.soompi.com/article/656559wpp/jessica-issues-public-statement-following-girls-generation-departure
jessica never singled out any specific member(s) for her removal, she consistently mentioned "eight others" or "eight members" when speaking about her removal from the group in her weibo post and her official statement.
@@starrygoldensky Gotcha thank you. So weird that we never really got a reason for it. Or why that ultimatum was given, or whether all members even agreed with the ultimatum. There's just so many holes in the reasoning that we'll probably never know the real reason unless the GG members talk about it. Because truth be told, I don't even think Jess knows the real reason she was kicked out. If SM gave her permission, it made no sense to kick her out later from a business standpoint either. Losing a popular member for what? All you'd do is lose money. Her business didn't interfere with her schedule, she wanted to continue, it's all very sus and hush hush.
@@eonfluxparadox jessica had everything to lose by posting on her weibo and by countering sm's statement with her own statement. she said all eight so i believe her when said all eight. it was a situation that involved her directly and firsthand so i think she would know better than we would. the ultimatum was supposedly given because they felt that she was prioritizing her business over girls' generation activities which is why they told her to either quit her business or leave the group. she told them that it was unfair for them to make her choose because she wanted to do both and that her brand/business activities didn't interfere with group activities. also, she couldn't just break contracts with business partners after finalizing them.
i, personally, think that there was no justifiable for her removal, as she said herself. i think her removal was done based on emotions and personal feelings rather than wanting her out for a professional and justifiable reason.
basically, the members didn't want to work with her anymore and sm chose what was more profitable, eight members versus one, regardless of who was in the right or wrong.
i'd be interested in hearing what the members have to say about it, if they ever do choose to speak about it, but so far the nine year silence has been beneficial for them.
@@starrygoldensky I would also be interested in hearing what our girls have to say about it but I doubt they'll ever talk about it because tbh they probably didn't have a good reason to kick her out. And to tell everyone that they basically just wanted her to be all or nothing would look awful. As the saying goes, if you have nothing good to say then it's better to say nothing at all. I've often wondered how Jess and the rest didn't get along, when some of them were so openly close to each other. Either way just based on how Krystal has never worked with or talked about any of the GG members even in her acting career goes to show that there's probably not any good blood between them. GG members always talk about every other group except for F(x) and openly avoid mentioning Jessica or Krystal. Going on an entire decade of silence.
@@eonfluxparadox Dispatch article claimed they interviewed 3 family/friends of the members that they spoke on their behalf. they already given the reasons at that article.
I have to agree that that particular channel indeed likes to spread lies and misinformation just for the clicks 🙄
Could you please put subtitles in Brazilian Portuguese in the settings of this video, too? I would like to watch the video and better understand what is being said. Subtitles would help a lot
sure! i added english subtitles but i can also go in the settings and try to add portuguese subtitles as well.
@@starrygoldensky It's easy in the video settings, there's a field where you can put the subtitles you want. I think it would help a lot, thanks.
I saw that it is now available, thank you!
This would be good since many brazilians sones believe that there is no way the 8 could kick her out or that Sica is a horrible person when she just said the truth lol
I think the real problem is some people dislike Jessica for keep bringing up girls generations, and how by writing the book, she is saying that the other members of the group forced her to pick between designing or being in girls generation. this is clearly not the case, as what is shown in the video, because all other members were aware that Jessica was going to launch her brand and everyone will focus more on solo activities. and of course Jessica claims this book is pure friction. Meanwhile, the 8 members have never said anything about Jessica's departure and I am sure they are not allowed to say anything anyway, so they have to take it, whatever others accused them of doing. and this is slightly unfair. at the end of the day, no one in the public knows for sure what happened, and most likely its a corporate thing, not the first time SM treated their singers poorly and it was evidenced that Jessica was not allowed to participate in any music shows in Korea to promote her songs after being removed from the group, and luckily she is American so she could continue her career in China, where Koreans are banned due to America deploying the THAAD missile system in Korea. some fans also complained that Jessica spent more effort in her brand and designing than with SNSD, they say that she would return to Korea from USA like a day before some major event...i dont know, so there are other complains apart from those included in the video. And i understand where people are coming from, they probably support the group or have their own bias, SNSD is very successful because everyone of the member sacrificed individual fame for the sake of the group, and clearly Jessica was always a top 3 in popularity, with Taeyeon and Yoona. so I can understand why so fans might be not happy even with high popularity and resources, Jessica "seems" to get more freedom for individual things while others dont. Yoona has been extremely popular, but she has always gotten very few lines, her one line in "Oh!" is classic. But thats the sacrifice they will willing to accept in order to shine as a group. Sunny also clearly puts the group at number 1, and low key doing a lot of hard lifting, also see that a lot in the 2015 soshi variety show.
I am writing a lot not because I dislike Jessica like some other fans, I love her and I just feel incredible sad and empty that she is not part of the group anymore. I respect and appreciate Jessica that she wants to do something different, but at the same time I also appreciate the rest of the members continue to keep SNSD together and forever, despite their busy schedules. Recently when MrMr reached 100M, and offical GG instagram posted a post with the 8 members but didn't include Jessica, I was really upset and annoyed. So as many TV shows or interview where they somehow have to find old songs footage and make sure Jessica is not in the frame. This is awful, the fact that the entire korean industry is afraid of showing current SNSD together with Jessica means that the whole thing is much bigger than what we fans can imagine. It is out of the control of the members or Jessica, behind the scene there is an invisible hand controlling everything.
As i said jessica is one of the most popular members in SNSD (everyone is very popular tho), I cant imagine the success SNSD would continue to have if 930 never happened, and 9 members returned for forever1 last year. But sometimes the world is not perfect, and majority of the people around can only accept things, instead of controlling things. I hope that the hardcore fans of current SNSD or Jessica can accept this fact and stop attacking each other. And I am waiting for the day where 9 members will reunite together. everything is possible, just like how SNSD rose when no one believed that girl groups could achieve the same results male groups can back then...and SM is apparently in a huge mess now.
lol sooyoung after 930 posted about the other 8 being dependable sisters while jessica was missing from the public, snsd have shaded jessica. really wish yall would stop bringing up jessica putting more effort on her brand than snsd when snsd barely had any scheds n she only had few solo scheds when preparing her brand, she was only selling scraves and sunglasses too, b&e was obviously just a side job for her at that time.
@@aa1944-k2r im not even attacking you? literally was just explaining that they did say sht after 930 and how jessica not prioritizing snsd is harmful to her when its not true.
Dispatch article said 8 members claimed they were not aware of Jessica's plan of her brand which the same as what happened in her book. the video just prove that they were lying about that.
They are allowed, they just choose to pretend she was never in the group. Please even Suju talks about former members.
Not reading allthat but Jessica was hated since the 2nd Dispatch article. That's years before Shine was released!
Why did they kick her out?
to summarize jessica's official statement: she got removed from the group because a month after the launch of her brand, the members had a change of heart about her having a brand and being a girls' generation member. in september, the members gave her an ultimatum to either quit her business or leave the group. she told the members that she wouldn't choose because she wanted to do both and that the ultimatum was unfair, nor could she back out of her business due to finalizing contracts/commitments with business partners. jessica also went on to explain that her brand didn't interfere with girls' generation's activities. she also stated that she approached sm entertainment on september 15, 2014 for clarification about the ultimatum the members presented to her and sm entertainment gave her permission, for a second time, to continue on with her business activities. however, on september 29, 2014, jessica was given a notice by sm entertainment and the members informing her that she was no longer a member of the group and she was left out of all further group activities which is why she was absent from the shenzhen fanmeeting on september 30, 2014.
jessica's official statement: www.soompi.com/article/656559wpp/jessica-issues-public-statement-following-girls-generation-departure
as for the blacklisting, here is a really good thread, if you're interested in reading it: twitter.com/WithLoveGS/status/1403446465876434949
Her "sisters" didn't like the fact she launched a fashion brand even if she never missed a schedule
Im still half-hearted about this tragic story. Up to this day we only hear one side of the story, Jessica's story. Even when she claimed that her book is fictional its clearly about what she went through when she's still in the group.
Im still annoyed when new fans especially the fans that are stanning them from the very beginning painting Taeyeon as the mastermind/villain as if she have a complete full authority to kick out a member, at the end of the day even she's the leader of SNSD she's still an employee of SM and had to follow orders.
We will never know if we can ever hear the other side of the story, the 8 members side of the story. Maybe SM made them signed a NDA contract to never speak on what really happen about 9/30 and made them act as if Jessica doesn't exist from their past discograpies. This is a tragic story for both fans and the 9 girls which SM made them to go behind their backs, pitted them to each other and completely tarnished their reputation for their greedy agendas. (Until I heard both side of the story, I will forever blame SM about 9/30)
despite hearing only jessica's side, her side is at least corroborated.
it's not fair at all for anyone to be painted as a villain or singled out when jessica said "eight others" and "eight members" in her weibo post and official statement. so, it's unfortunate that the whole "_______ masterminded jessica's removal" narrative was created and people ran with it because of the awkwardness between the two but it also goes beyond the fandom and people enjoy bandwagon hating. also, the whole voting rumor actually originated from sones, c-sones to be exact, they wrote about it on a forum called baidu tieba. there's a very popular video on here about jessica's removal and the creator of the video pointed out where the voting rumor stemmed from and it stemmed from their own fandom.
jessica was also a sm employee and a member of the group, the situation involved her first-hand, and she explicitly stated that the company gave her permission to do girls' generation activities and continue on with her brand, not only once but twice. she got permission for a second time after approaching sm entertainment for clarification in regards to the ultimatum the members presented to her - sm deserves their fair share of blame but i'm going to believe jessica about the members' involvement in her removal because if she lied about it in anyway, she would have gotten sued and she was never sued nor did sm entertainment ever refute her weibo post or official statement. so, by the members being involved in her removal, she directly said that all eight did have the authority to voice their opinions in regards to her removal and the members mentioned on a 2009 episode of radio star that the members' opinions take prioritization in regards to the group.
jessica's removal is not just a jessica vs sm entertainment situation as people want to believe it to be or wish for it to be. it's saddening to think that the people jessica toiled alongside to build the group's legacy were involved in her removal but that's something that people need to come to terms with.
i would be interested in hearing the members' side if they ever decide to speak up but i fully believe jessica, considering that they've been silent for nine years, regardless of if a nda is in place or not, because jessica's side of the story is substantiated and corroborated and sm entertainment had to rely on a smear campaign to tarnish her image and reputation so the general public would stop questioning what happened and they bought into it, it also doesn't help that the sone fandom aided in tarnishing jessica's image and reputation either.
i mean, at the end of the day, people will choose to believe what they want but i believe it's a huge disservice to jessica to overlook what she's said about a situation that personally involved her.
if what Jessica said about snsd were wrong, sm would have been denied it right away and also forced other 8 to speak out loud how evil was Jessica to justified why other8 want her out of snsd already.
but whatever excuses they gave have all proved wrong or accidentally make other 8 look bad.
Jessica said her side and SM didn't sue her. Even Suju talks about former members, sn8d simply pretende she was never in the group because they want to.
I am actually shocked to learn that so many Sones have villainized her. I suppose I thought everyone felt the same way I did in being hurt by what happened on Jessica's behalf but not having ill-will towards Jessica OR the remaining 8 girls. No one on the outside really knows why or how it happened and I take into account that SM is a powerful company that none of the girls could stand up to if they really wanted to. It's complicated and it's not black and white and we don't truly know how the girls feel because of the NDA and blackballing SM has done.
I still dream of a timeline where none of it happened and they are still OT9 but I know it is foolish to think I can change history, and I understand that the girls have moved on and they all deserve happiness and success. I don't know them personally even if I have known them for 13 years now, but they are all real humans with thoughts and feelings that I have no business knowing. But life goes on. I just feel sad that it went down the way it did, or that it ever happened at all.
HOWEVER, I am glad Jessica is continuing to sing and reaching out into China where she has a big fanbase because she couldn't get anywhere in Korea, sadly. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and clearing up the misinformation.
obviously, sm was not the one wanted Jessica out from the beginning...SM just pick 8 over 1 to protect SNSD brand name to reduce further lost...u say like sm wanted her out and ot8 chose not to stand up but ot8 were the one proposed to remove Jessica otherwise they won't attend group activities...
This video doesn't explain the real question here:
is jessica still friend with all snsd members? Or enemies...
because that question has nothing to do with debunking the lies told about her.
according to jessica's billboard interview, she hasn't seen them in several years. this interview was on may 17, 2016.
"It’s been almost ten years since you debuted as a member of Girls’ Generation. How do you feel about your past, present and future?
I’ll always cherish my time as a member of Girls’ Generation. I haven’t seen them in several years but I really wish them the best."
www.billboard.com/music/music-news/jessica-jung-solo-album-girls-generation-interview-7377337/
You'd be surprised 😉
@@Ish-c1h9v they didn't spend much time together compare to other members and they were like acquaintance than friend...I don't think she had that much expectation to her...
If SM Entertainment wasn't itself against her starting the fashion brand, who was? Someone else without the SNSD group? Is there any speculation on what reasons there could be? I mean, this seems like the elephant in the room that is not being discussed or?
Their parents
SM probably wanted to get revenues from, it or manage if financially and she refused.
Look at EXO CBX this year, they have zero effing idea of how they are being paid. They don't see the color of the money they make, you're paid X, no explanations. I guess just asking for transparency is making SM sweat. Idols may realise they are worth more than what they are paid. But SM can blacklist you if you don't comply.
@@tdelioncourt1268 she has paid SM through portrait rights fee which her book and that deleted Dispatch article have mentioned.
@@tdelioncourt1268 Jessica never say anything about SM want to get more money from her brand.
@@tdelioncourt1268 it was the members and their parents wanted money from her brand profit...not long ago, Korean reporter bought this incident out again when Jessica join that china show, this was what he said( even tho he was trying to say negative things about Jessica)
You deleted my comment for the second time. Again, I don’t think it’s a coincidence.
i haven't deleted anything, i've been at a funeral. perhaps it's youtube's doing?
@@starrygoldenskyit is YT things.
If you used a word on the bot's list it'll get removed, also if you're account is in bad standing you're posting will be limited
It is what it is...
spreading lies about someone for years and even referencing those lies in recent years as a justification for their removal isn't "it is what it is"
Imagining you spending 14 years of your life for something you really love to do and suddenly you can't even do it anymore in your own country, needs to be really stupid to just say "It is what it is"