how bts' teamwork makes the dream work (and why most boybands don't last)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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in this video i analyze a clip of the nsync members talking about the dynamics of a successful boyband... i disagree a little.
0:00 intro
1:30 sound over individual vocals
3:21 knowing your place
6:51 supergroups as a concept
12:54 conclusion
If we truly think about it BTS should be a guide on how teamwork and bands should work, No egos, no one thinking they are better than one, a solid foundation of what friendship/brotherood is.
Actually they should be a guide to humanity…they are the most humble, loving and unselfish people I have ever met…….if the world operated the way they do ….this would be a happy place… for sure LOVING 💜💜💜💜
@@angie7777-7 Very true HUMANITY is what makes them so special and rare I hope one day it will be a big tribute them that they can see the people they have literally saved from some dark places and escape horrible situations
@@lasandrasweatt6138 Absolutely 🙌
@@angie7777-7Wait, you got to meet BTS?
@@goeienacht lol so sorry….no I wish…I feel like I’ve met them with everything I’ve watched..🤣but they haven’t met me
joon said it in the best way. He described BTS as them all being in the same boat looking in different directions. That they are the best in what they do individually but still working together and still going together on the same path. and i think that’s beautiful
Didn't he say: "We are all on the same boat looking in different directions"?
@@luisaimmora6734 Thanks, I worded it wrong 😅
Sounds like the Straw Hat Crew from One Piece
@@KaiIwai Omg it does
Isn't that how humanity should see ourselves as well? We are on the same boat(PLANET) just looking in different directions...
when she said said that the younger members of BTS weren't required to go to the military for the next 3-4 years but they all decided to go at once because Jin had to and no group in the history of Kpop havs ever done this. Ohh boy I cried.
I remember when I first learned about mandatory military service in South Korea I remember thinking how is BTS going to handle that. Because if they all waited until they had to serve it would be 7 years before they would all finish their service and because there ages are pretty evenly split apart there would be no major gap where none of them would be serving. So in my mind I was just like when they do serve I hope they enlist close together at least. And I'm really happy that's what they are doing.
I like the sentiment of BTS enlisting together as much as any other ARMY, but is it not true that BTS is the first group to do this. The group ONF just finished military enlistment this year after enlisting at the same time in early 2022.
I thought of ONF too. Which means there could be more, though it’s probably uncommon.
Don't they have the same age? And they did this enlistment because of their àge has come?
@@halalmarthnihpai4946 No, the members aren't the same age. For BTS they can enlist anytime between the ages of 18-30. Jungkook is 26, V is 27, Jimin is 28, and RM is 29.
Your comment on how J-Hope SO CLEARLY letting J Cole shine really hits home. His stepping back for J Cole is obvious to those who are fans of his and BTS. But how this relates to BTS' team dynamic is something I never thought about! You made me think! Thank you for another brilliant video essay.
thank you and yes! everyone who reacted to jhope's other songs after watching him for the first time on on the street realized he was stepping back. bts are so selfless and team oriented
I also think this is why having less worthy features than J-Cole is such a challenge. JK continues to respect and give space to those he allowed to (invited to?) feature even though there seems to be some genuine concerns about quality. It will be interesting to see how those songs evolve and if he ends up making them fully his own at some point.
Thank you for an excellent video, it's once again thought provoking. Their honest friendship is one of the reasons why I love them so much❤
@@boracitymagazinethanku for amazing vedios and always giving us a new perspective to think ❤
@@maryr1905 Quality? I think people’s personal biases aren’t exactly a quality issue. JK has been part of a team which contain pretty hard and explicit rap line for a decade now. But most of his fans are more likened to Bieber’s fans. So there is a clash in culture among his fans. I am of course making the assumption that by “quality” you meant Jack Harlow.
Another thing to note is that BTS are able to write songs and customize their writing to suit members and let everyone shine within the group-because they actually write their own songs. (What a concept!) The main issue with other groups focusing on a singular sound and not evolving, or even a singular look, is rooted in relying on others to write and create content/songs for them to perform. BTS are songwriters and artists and creators ON TOP of being performers, amongst the saturated kpop market with groups that only perform what’s given to them. People can see and feel the difference and it’s why BTS even on hiatus continues to reign.
Reminds me of Take That (my 2nd favourite boyband, and yeah, I know, Gen Z & Americans don't know them). They basically made mostly typical boyband music in the 90's (mostly written by their leader Gary Barlow) and radio friendly music since 2005. On the last album they did with all 5 members it says "All tracks written by Barlow/Donald/Orange/Owen/Williams" (their family names) which is such a flex and I hope the BTS members can do that one day as well.
I think the rapline is the heart of bts. These are people who already were performers/musicians. They didn’t just have skill but they had already put themselves out there to be criticized. That’s a step up over other kpop groups who may have some skill and music education.
@@nehalilisaysas a Gen Z South African I am offended (not really) because I know who take that is and I love them ❤
Rapline definitely are the heart of BTS, especially after I read their book, Beyond the Story. Since they were more experienced in the field they help guide the other members during their early days to listen to music/different artists and encouraged growth in their artistic abilities. I think that played a big role and influenced them to be the best artists they are today@@REChronic54
American fans really care about singers writing their own song. They have always tried to put it as superior trait.
I found that weird and couldn't wrap my head why US fans are so obsessed with this fact.
Then it clicked to it's bcs they r "used to".
I am Indian and majority of songs comes from movies. It's music composer appointed by the movie studio who hier lyrist, singers. So they can be different and there's no pressure of doing everything on your own.
Hence why for me Kpop system of company arranging everything and idols performing it never stood out as something bad or like some say "manufactured".
If grp writers it's own song that's good but even if they don't that's good.
One of the most blatant examples of how BTS prioritizes and respects their team over their own egos is that even in their solo projects they tend to have at least 6 back-up dancers as a way to symbolize the remaining six of the team. Not to mention the way they hype each other's solo projects. Team work does really make the dream work!
In addition, in their MVs, they also have 6 of something as well showing at least at one point.
also, Yoongi literally created Suchwita so he can promote the other members solo projects.
yesss. I noticed this with Standing Next To You recently!!
I’m an older millennial ARMY, so I lived through the most popular western boy bands, and was a Backstreet Boys fan myself as a kid - so I definitely felt what you are saying as I started to get into BTS - TRULY, the world hadn’t seen their unique makeup before. I think that’s part of the reason it took the media SO LONG to understand BTS, and they STILL don’t fully understand the TRUE APPEAL OF BANGTAN!
I am the same, was into Backstreet Boys before I got into BTS. Take note that Backstreet is still active till present. They have never disbanded, that's how tight they are. When Kevin had to go on hiatus for while due to personal reasons, they stayed together as a group. They have each had their solo albums but knew in their hearts they will always be part of the band. I watched their 25th Anniversary concert live. They actually talked about careers and longevity and that reminded me of our own Bangtan boys. Fun fact, I actually heard Nick mention BTS first and got curious. And here I am, an ARMY.
@@shrink2873who's nick & may I know what he was talking about BTS?
@@imawonderful6118 Nick Carter, the youngest one. He wanted to collab with BTS actually. Their paths crossed during the Billboard Music Awards in 2018
@@shrink2873 oh I see.. thanks for answering me.. really hope that collab would be happening sooner or later.. 😅
When did he say that tho?
@@imawonderful6118 if i remember correctly, in 2018 during a twitter live q&a someone asked of their opinion on bts and nick said 'we are huge fans actually, we love them'. i think if you just look up nick carter/backstreet boys bts, something from billboard news will pop up. :)
Bangtan have the longevity because they are a true family first and foremost, a real strong band of brothers who love and support each other professionally and personally they are there for one another. Their teamwork made the dreamwork since the beginning they all started out together and have grown with each other. They will always be successful as a group and individually, they know the sacrifices they have made, their literal blood sweat and tears put them where they are today
Yeah well said ARMY!!!
One thing I have learned from stanning groups since the 90s is never assume that they’re close… Everything else is facts ❤
@@Onyourtimegirl shut up
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That's why you can't just find your favorite one, they all are talented and handsome
all of what you say is true, however, IMHO, the biggest difference is that theses guys love each other . they encourage, cheer on, and are proud of whatever accomplishment any of them have either as a solo or a pair. They all showed up at Suga's concert, Jimin flew to USA for Suga, Hobie, and JK. The others showed up for him. They help each other succeed as well. I remember one clip where Jin said he could learn the steps, but he wasn't sure how good he would make them look, V, JK Jimin and Hobie Told JIn they would practice with him. and Jimin said Hyung, we won't let you feel like you failed. This kind of teamwork, brotherhood, and friendships is what makes BTS work. They are proud of each other and understand when one is good, its also good for BTS.
Yes I love that about them. They're always complementing each other.
New ARMY as of October 2023 and I already know that BTS works harder than any other boy band I loved back when I was a teenager. BTS knows that they constantly need to grow and evolve and they are doing that now. That is the key to longevity. I think each member is a “lead” in their own way and I will be here no matter what.
Wow! Welcome
Welcome army! ❤
welcome baby army!
Omg welcome ♡!
Welcome in! I've only been army a year so still fairly new myself good luck with your BTS journey it's an amazing trip 🥰💜
I completly agree with you with everything especially the diversity part in BTS. Korea society has an obsession of uniformity in general. When I see the other kpop groups, a lot of them look the same, their voices sound the same is like it happens with kdramas all the main actor and actresses of the different kdramas look like copies, in their obsession of uniformity but in BTS you have 7 unique personalities, voices. BTS is one of those groups that is once in a lifetime. We are so lucky to be alive in the same time than BTS .
That does happen a lot in the West, too- look how many groups and bands bill a 'lead singer' or a 'frontman'. Creating a group with such uniquely different voices and styles is pretty rare, and allowing them all to take turns shining is even more rare! I'm thinking... NKOTB did it- Jordon was official lead singer, but Joey, Jon, Danny and Donny were all given their chances to shine out- but I'm drawing a blank on anyone else who did.
This video is sooo needed! Especially with the rise of solo stans that interpret BTS’ name being attached to a member is “limiting” or “mooching” off that member’s success. Its so disheartening to see SOO many new 2023 solo stans of members (mostly maknae line) that have never interacted with BTS content only solo content. So they have no idea how important BTS’ teamwork REALLY is. If not for BTS we wouldnt have been blessed with all of these amazing solo projects!
Solo stans can be annoying as hell but they will either stay casual fans or learn quickly how much of a team player their fave actually is.
Solo stans are not true ARMY in my books.
@@peachesc.9078 I mean, if they have only been around for a month or two, I can give 'em a pass long enough to see whether they learn to appreciate the others. But people who've been around a while and continue to insist that there's only one individual in the group who's worth their attention... yeah, that's not an ARMY. First, massive logic fail. ARMY literally means, a fan of a group, but they only fan one person in the group; it's like saying you love basketball and then admitting the only player you know is Stef Curry. And second, that's someone who doesn't even respect what their 'bias' has to say about his brothers.
I wholeheartedly agree to this, OT7 all the way. solo stan esp the maknae line are super t**ic af. I left the solo stan group for that reason alone. It was to much for me, all the crazies they concocted Abt this solo is in relationships w/ this solo, I was like, chiz weez. Can't wait for the group project
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Something that I also think was different with One Direction was they were thrusted into being a group when they all originally intended on being soloists. They auditioned as soloists for the X-Factor but the only way they would be on the show was if they became a group. Granted they probably did not know how big they would be but I wonder if they were thinking this would be a good platform to launching a solo career down the road if the group does well for a short amount of time. One Direction didn't have the time to bond or struggle, they were thrusted into success from the very beginning of their career. And I don't follow them that closely but do the members even hang out or talk as friends. I don't mean liking an instagram post or attending a concert of another member but are actual friends. Something I've always appreciated about BTS is they don't have to sacrifice their solo careers for the group, they can do both. I know it's a lot of work and I'm sure there are sacrifices made but I love how they make it known BTS comes before their solo careers.
BTS members know their real power comes from being united. I think early on, they learned to respect and appreciate each member's individual talents/personality. Now they truly love each other and feel bonded for life as a family. None of them are jealous of the others' achievements because they truly want each person to succeed and know the members will be there with encouragement and support when it is their turn to shine individually. BTS is unique as members and as a group.
each and every BTS member is a strong soloist but when put together as one BTS they became the strongest! i am amazed by how each and every solo projects have their own unique touch and individuality and each member shines as a soloist and as a group they became one and be the greatest!
And I'm looking forward to how these unique solo experiences come together in 2025. I feel like they will be able to do some really innovative and exciting things with these different experiences and opportunities to shine.
And all 7 of them different visions & when all 7 of them mix its like a rainbow 🌈 . Sometimes it feels like BTS was fated to be. How can such a perfect group exist😢
@@maryr1905It will be the biggest bop💜
@@itsdark9983Even Hobi said a few years ago that he feels that they were fated to meet in one of their documentaries and I totally agree. It was so sweet. 💜🥺💞
@@Jewelytt7 Yes and when we listen the stories of how they joined BTS, how much they supported each other to not leave, it all sounds like a miracle 💜 ✨️
another great video!! bts are always talking about being older men and still performing together for armys and i can easily see it because they just work great together. they respect each other in a way that i've never seen in other groups.
As Suga says he feels the most happiest time when he is with the boys
let's goooooo. BTS is truly a once in a lifetime group. They are special and the greatest of their generation imo
You couldn’t be more right about how BTS’ teamwork is unique. That was again proven today with the newest military announcement of Namjoon, Jimin, Taehyung and Jung Kook. (Which I’m still it over 😭) They’re all enlisting together to ensure that they group can be back together in 2025 like the promised us. 💜
...of all the ways for me to find out this information, THIS is how I find out, from a youtube comment (T.T)
This is proof that if you have a band like bts that has a strong foundation of healthy teamwork, selflessness, and shared musical goals and growth, your group can indeed defy the odds and expectations of boybands that came before them. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a group like them, and I doubt they’ll ever be a better example of what a musical group should strive to be. I have no doubt that they will continue making music together for a very long time.
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As an Army and a former tennis pro and a professional musician, teamwork is a must! You may be a better player or musician but if you don’t know how to be a good teammate, the team or band will not succeed! This is one of the reasons I really admire BTS as they truly act as one unit and shine when the opportunity presents itself and know that they are stronger as a team than as a soloist and that is another reason for their longevity is the willingness to adapt and learn so they keep growing together with success.
Thank you for mentioning Pentatonix. I'm such a huge fan of them and one of the big reasons is exactly this. They are all incredible soloists, but they work well together, because there's no ego between them. When they're together as a group, they think about the group and not themselves. And when they're solo artists, they support each other's projects and cheer on each other's successes. This environment, where each member knows they can try things out by themselves and be creative without having to make a choice between a solo career or a group, can only work when the members are all on the same page about it though.
because Bangtan's mindset is if they shine individually - it also puts a spotlight on the group
" no uniformity but cohesion" That's what I love so much about them. Individuality but cohesion
Thank you for this video. Seen so much negativity since the solos project started and it's important to remember BTS are 7. They've said that this solo era will only bring them closer and better for the group. I wish people would stop comparing them to each other and enjoy their hard work, support them, and applaud their achievements .
It's not long now fellow ARMY for our Queen Bora to come give as some facts, figure's her well researched knowledge. 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Another great video essay. And it truly shows how the tannies are just different from the rest, because they respect and celebrate each other. No one is a bigger ARMY than the tannies are for one another. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
What you say here sums up why I became a fan of BTS. There are many reasons to love them, but one of the best ones is that I could always see each of them shine with their unique light, never overpowering the others, always working out to create something exceptional when they are together. Your essay made me solidify these vague feelings into thoughts, so thank you for this essay❤
Thank you for this because I saw the same interview and he said what he said sounded weird to me. I use to be a huge NSYNC fan back when I was in Middle School and High School. I still listen to their songs now. The thing is though I never learned about them individually who they were or their personalities. It was just not something that crossed my mind. I just liked their music, like most things I listen to. Now with BTS, I have learned so much about them aside from their music. So when I was watching this interview and heard this clip about how they knew their place, etc..I actually really thought about that and BTS. To me, sure at the beginning the members had positions and all that. They did need a starting place. But there is also something that Namjoon said during one of his vlogs at the very beginning, and that was something about how he can't wait for the members to grow and have their own individual success. One of the many things I have come to love that is different than any other group I have seen is that all BTS members support each other as individuals and as a group. They teach each other, they don't think they know everything, they want to see each other grow and learn new things, and they don't try to keep each other down. They also don't fight for the spotlight. They say "ok it's your turn to shine, give it all you got and I am here to back you up." Like Suga not saying anything about his enlistment because he didn't want to take the spotlight from Tae, or Namjoon trying not to take to spotlight from JK at his showcase even though JK wanted him say somethin, and many more examples. I have never seen another group that is as supportive of each other than BTS. But this rambling has gone on too long...haha there is so much more I want to say. But is conclusion BTS is the best!!!💜 APOBANGPO!
Very well said, this was really lovely to read :,)
Yet another brilliant video showcasing how BTS are great artists as a group and as soloists. They know their strengths, their weaknesses, they know when to give a push and when a member needs space. But the most important part is their selflessness, their teamwork and that's what sets them apart.
Also, BTS clearly had/has a vision. They love each other and love working WITH each other. Like any family they needed some space, but the point of the break was to recharge their energy for the GROUP.
Girl, you always hit the nail on the head .. keep on doing what you are doing .. teamwork makes the dream work .. BTS proves that point all the time and the fact that they always represent the group is highly commendable .. the guys always identify themselves as a member of BTS, I admire that so much and even when they were about to embark on their solo projects, Jimin said in their festa he is not a solo artist, he is a member of a group, thats the mindset of each member thats why they will forever be successful .. my favourite people on the planet, BTS 🥰🥰🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🫰🫰🫰🫰
Bangtan really is something incredible. Even when I want to be skeptical. Everything he does makes you think about the most beautiful story of work, dedication and love that ever existed. Will be the destiny? How many chances are there that 7 such different people will meet and achieve such a perfect union? I have lived several decades and this is the greatest and most real love I have ever known, and for which I wish it would last over time.
In my opinion, I've seen several other groups with really close and family like bonds despite each person in the group being very different from each other and still being in perfect harmony and and loving each other despite that, but I do agree that BTS are one of those groups! :)
@@Kalakeiko there are many groups who are close, but i do think bts is on a completely different level with their dedication to the team. i believe others love each other as well, but bts is one of very few groups (actually cannot think of others right now, but im sure they exist) where that bond and teamwork really shines through and actually contributes to their huge success.
@ajlee2168 I still disagree to be honest. I do agree that some groups are closer than others though, especially the ones that have been together for a long time and the ones who went through a lot.
The group that especially stands out to me in terms of their close relationship, their team work and dedication to the group and how well they fit together as a whole in general is Seventeen in my opinion, but as I've mentioned before, BTS are also one of the groups with close bonds!
@@Kalakeiko its been a while since i last checked in with svt, but i can totally see that. the amount of members could make things more complicated for the team, but they have been doing great! like i said i havent been keeping up with them, but it seems they know how to work around and with each other.
@ajlee2168 Admittedly, I'm a bit biased as they are my favourite group by far and have been for years now haha, but to me, Seventeen has one of the strongest bonds I've ever seen in a group and the fact that all 13 of them renewed their contracts before they even ran out and their annual ring ceremonies only furthered my admiration for their relationship and teamwork!
I don't have much to say just that I feel like I'm growing up while looking at the world through BTS eyes in both professional and personal ways , I'm absorbing things from here and there and It makes me happy finding people like you I'm genuinely glad , keep going you are great. ♡
One thing you said struck me in particular: BTS are selfless towards each other. Most of the bands I've loved have imploded because of the selfishness of one or more members. Somebody decides they are more talented or deserve better. It was amazing to me to see how BTS encouraged each other to do more, do better. Great respect for their teamwork!
Yes I've had this conversation before as an artist. Each member needs space to continually grow and expand so they can bring those new found parts to the group. Ego's kill a group always doing the same thing kills a group. Getting that mix right is hard it's a continual issue that every member has to be aware and some time's that means being willing to step back a bit for the sake of the group while other time's it means stepping out of your comfort zone. You need people you can trust who are willing to listen to each other and willing to try new things without the ego of I'm the best it should be me me me.... and you need those who can say come on I know you can do this we believe in your ability we love and respect you and your art.
Thank you for this. Yes BTS does have a unique dynamics. They all say they miss being with their members... and they are truly selfless. They think about what's best for the group. For example if they didn't, Jin would have enlisted during warmer months like he initially planned. Because he made that sacrifice for the group, which all the members appreciated, the other members are willing to make similar sacrifices 💜
They started very young and even though they were living in small quarters, and they had fights at first, the culture is to have respect for older members the U.S. doesn't have that. They listened to their elder members and soon became a family of brothers, always going to each other for guidance acting as a family and that's just one reason they worked together better. Their respect and a brotherly love did grow and the family that emerged made a difference they also put in longer hours than most, seven days a week sometimes till 3 A.M. but after they came together as a family, they all started working with the same goal in mind. It was one for all as in the three musketeers. When they started getting a small following, they gave credit to their fans and the fans felt their sincerity and Army was born, and they got great strength and encouragement from our support and love for them.
They were always humble and doing their best and they tried not only for themselves but each other, their own families and Army. Also, another thing that made a big difference was that they signed with a smaller agency Hitman and their boss Bang was trying to treat them more as he would a family and tried to do more for them getting them chances that other agencies wouldn't do for their K-pop groups. They were fortunate to have this attention and care from Bang and would say how they appreciated it. He had an eye for what he wanted in his group and handpicked each member because he saw something in each of them and felt that with the right support, they would be special. With that when things were going bad, and it looked like they would have to break up, none of them gave up and left, they just worked even harder.
They all stayed and worked even harder, and they finished school and got their college degrees on top of their heavy load. They are simply amazing because of what each one brought to the table and how they became brothers and a family for life. Their many sacrifices were not in vain they are what they made of themselves, and everything came together as they made it happen and always gave credit to others even though they were the ones who suffered and were hurt and had injuries that might affect them in the future. We will always standby our boys who have lived as men even when so young and become men that we can all be proud of. Everything they have they deserve, and we hope in the future they will meet their soulmate and raise families and a group of new talent should come forth from our young men no longer boys we will always be proud, support them and love them all. Not one over the other but all as they have asked us to do. We will not let those who try to hurt them in any way succeed as long as we are here, we will come to their support. Much love to our men of BTS You were always Destined for greatness. As they will always have our respect and our hearts. Much Love Always. Kim Namjoon!! Kim Soekjin!! Min Yoongi!! Jung Hoseok!! Park Jimin!! Kim Taehyung!! Joen Jungkook!! BTS!!!
Everything in this video is so on point I think the only thing I want to add is that since the very beginning, BTS were already singing about wanting to be exceptional and have a story like no other. That kind of higher purpose, chasing something bigger than themselves, like giving people hope and strenght is something that requires a certain character that simply a lot of people in the industry dont have, thus making BTS stand out from everyone else, year after year. Making them build a foundation as to why their team matters. Cause after everything the've gone through and achieved together, they know and have pride in how special everything they've built is, thats why they constantly reaffirm their reunion in 2025 and their long term goal of keep going for as long as they possibly can. Finally, as we've seeing in chapter 2, they know the importance of individual expression and growth, but yet again, they're all on the same page that its for their team, for a bigger purpose 💜
BTS is truly unique in so many ways - that’s why they have risen to such heights- and it something that brings fans to them - not only are they amazing artists but they actually care about each other and their fans which I don’t really feel like I’ve seen that too much with any other artists. And what you stated about their diversity with their music genres is so appealing to so many people who just don’t really float in one pool of music we like lots of different kinds of music and BTS fits that perfectly. I really think that the phenomenon and BTS should be studied in business schools. I actually think it is being being studied!
The University of California, Berkeley offers a two-credit course called “Next Generation Leaders: BTS” . There is the International Society for BTS Studies (ISBS) which hosts academic conferences on BTS and their impact.
What striked me the most about BTS as a team is their respect for one another. Especially after I read the book that came out 2023 it became so clear to me how much they not only respect but admire each other, without toxic jealousy. When they once reached a cruel time they promised themselves to work hard to keep up being in BTS. I think that shows how they view this, the group, being idols and standing on stage. They do not take it for granted. They see it as an opportunity and a chance to grow. And while doing so they help each other. They know that fans of their solo projects are fans of BTS. they work, even as soloist, in the name of BTS. They have respect towards their own group. A big factor as well had to be that they were rising to the top quite isolated, they had to learn how to rely on one another ...
So glad you included the "xyz of BTS" thing. The amount of solos screaming for injustice and being exploited for having his name in correlation to BTS while doing a solo collab with others gave me the worst headaches.
They are such a great model to follow in life, I love and respect them so much. I was attracted to their talent and hard work, fell in love with their amazing lyrics and became a forever Army, because they understand my heart and give it comfort and hope. They are incredible good and kind people. My love for BTS will be eternal
I'm so grateful that there are fans like you in the fandom I'm in. Many times I thought if I could give the same love and respect as a fan as much as bts gave me through their music. But then fans like you guide and motivate me. You are one of reason in my infinite reasons to not leave this fandom.
Thank you!!!
This is a great video! I also think BTS took brotherhood seriously just as much as teamwork. Whatever one member was struggling with, that became the groups struggle. They didn’t leave that member to go through it alone. It wasn’t only one or two members that helped, it was the whole group that helped. If one member falls, the whole group falls. That’s the mindset. I’m not saying they used that to manipulate or degrade any member. But it took them into a different position regarding this relationship with each other. You can have 7 great talented people but if there is little to no respect between them, for each other as individuals or for the group, then what’s the point? They know they work better together. Many groups in kpop don’t recognize that. It’s because they stick to that narrative and format of strict standards and levels. Only one member is comfortable with doing what they do best and not branching out. It’s like everyone has to have their own little box to be inside of. BTS is more of a circle. There isn’t one side to them. There’s multiple sides. From each member. That’s what makes them unique. That’s what gets people hooked. That’s what drives their success at the end of the day. They know how to bounce off of each other instead of just themselves. All 7 know they’re talented & will get time to shine. But they’re not eager to shine for so long individually as much as they are as a group. Namjoon said “just be Bangtan” before Yet To Come in Busan. He didn’t say “just be yourselves” because that creates division and in-cohesiveness. Bangtan Sonyeondan is more than just a group name. It’s their identity inside and out. They were born to be a team before they were born to be soloists.
Your timing of showing fifth harmony when you talked about “looked more like a competition rather than a union of talents” THE SHADE AND THE ACCURACY
I found this interesting and it brought me back to similar notions I've had contemplating Backstreet Boys as well as BTS (yes, I'm a fan of both). They've been around and largely intact since 1993 and are still touring. Technically speaking, they are the most successful boy band of all time in terms of record sales and their records are still successful. I think the individuals are all good vocalists as well and share the spotlight well. The key, I think, is more not to let the egos get in the way of the group. And it shows in the music. As it does for BTS. Of course, BTS is just getting started so I'm looking forward to where they're going from here.
I think one of the most exciting things I'm looking forward to in 2025 is seeing the rapline feeling more comfortable in vocals. I really think Ch2 has been amazing for all members to expand their flavor and skills, but it really feels like RM & SUGA will be more comfortable letting their singing voices shine and help support the VL. J-Hope already had a strong singing voice and now has some real grit, as well.
All this together with the beautiful VL voices should make for some unique and new opportunities in songs going forward!
Can I add a request for them to do more harmonies? I think their unique colors would sound so good together and would love to hear them do more of that.
It is a breath of fresh air BTS understands teamwork. It is a very difficult skill. Narcissism and Sociopathy are plebian. Thank Bora City for your sharing this video❣️
I just appreciate the way you assess and logically articulate all these points.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The uniqueness of BTS is just beautiful to experience ❤
It's absurd that some people started to think just because Jungkook is having a lot of success as a soloist, who should leave BTS. These people think he wants to... it's really stupid, I saw people saying that the other members forced him to sign this September's contract
He just “look” to have more success cuz you can actually see it , cuz the industry isn’t “blocking him “ cuz the industry is making money out of him. If all the members got the same treatment of the industry then you will actually see who is the most successful and all of that , but right now the numbers are really highly manipulated just like the success of BTS in general. Specially cuz of the rappers , cuz they don’t want to get limited creative freedom to just get more media “attention” aka fairness like jks or dynamite or butter.
@@mev9752 I hope you're not belittling what Jungkook does, or who he is
@@mev9752 Did you say BTS's success is manipulated?
@@erika-g4mer_yoongi207 the “success” that you “see in the media and streams platforms ofc its is, their real success is even bigger but since is too big is so hard to block it by the media, but they still doing it. At least the make money out of them like with dynamite , butter and PTD.
@@erika-g4mer_yoongi207 I’m just saying the right info about your comment, his success is more seen cuz he gets fairness from the industry cuz they get money from him. Can’t say the same about the other members releases, specially Rap line. If the rest of the members got the same fairness as jks , they will got better numbers. And you will see rapline been in R&B / hip hop / rap categories in charts and awards. And they would get playlist on those categories. And media recognition of their incredible lyrics , fusion of sound and creativity. Just like they do 24/7 with TS ( even tho her lyrics are nothing compare to them specially RMs), you won’t just like ON didn’t got number one cuz they “didn’t count” all the data , or life goes on didn’t got any radio play even tho was number one and people were asking for it. Do you understand now , how the industry works ?
I enjoyed your video! Two points I would like to make:
1. RM is their leader. He's smart, savvy, and he sets the tone for the group. It is a very difficult job; he does it very well.
2. Bighit got them early and made them live together during training. That kind of bonding doesn't happen overnight; all the kinks and adjustments were worked out over a period of time. I think this is a critical step in them becoming a *family*. I think they see each other as brothers who sing together in a band, rather than a group of individuals who happen to sing together. It was BTS vs the world. It shows.
It wasn't quite that Big Hit 'made' them live together, it was that they really couldn't afford individual apartments like the established entertainment companies could. (Or practice studios, either.) It was the guys who made a rule that they should live together in order to keep the brotherhood strong. Which they don't anymore, but I think it was Suga who said the brotherhood actually got stronger when they got their own places.
@@kshafer6220 Thanks for the correction! I am new to BTS; trying to find accurate info is very tricky. 🤗💜💜💜
@@athenastewart9167 Welcome to the fold! You're right, there's a lot to work through, and some things get a bit of spin on them, either from confusions (or mis-translations), or from sour-grapes people trying to distort stuff.
I would suggest picking up 'Beyond the Story', the book released this year. It's basically the history of BTS in the guys' own words, with a little help from the editors. You can get it from local retailers and not have to worry about Korean shipping, and it is in English. It even has codes you can phone-scan to watch video footage right then and there as you read.
There's also 'The Rise of Bangtan', a 21-part series here on YT; fan-made by a professional film producer during the pandemic. It's a major time investment, as each segment is about half an hour long, (not counting the deleted and bonus-scene segments, those are about 10-15 min each) but it is the best thing out there that isn't an official Big Hit release. It's taken from interview, backstage and practice videos, and it really is like going on the boys' journey with them. So bring tissues. 💜
This video was sooo good !! I loved how you explained about this BTS being the best as soloist and as a group !! Coz whenever someone who has no idea about BTS asks me about who is the main member of BTS i always laugh and tell them all of them are centre. And they don't believe it, coz it's very rare !!! But well that's just another thing why BTS is great ❤
How do you just make me agree with every single thing you say, every single time? I love it! So true, Bangtan are geniuses and I'm always proud to be army!
OH MY GOSH! YES! LET’S GO!!
Hey girl!!! I hope you’re doing well! Love you!! And thank you as always for your hard work! And your amazing thumbnails! This one is so good! 💜 Gosh! I can never get enough of your videos!
thank you so much, joy! i'm glad you liked this one💜
This!!!! This video needs to shove it to all the solo-stans, antis, and the haters. BTS teamwork is worth analyzing.
I would further say that the cons of solos and cons of groups do not exist in Bts. They have the benefits of both soloists and a team, making them unstoppable
Well done as always. You've raised good points, BTS is the standard and that's why they'll be together for a long time. Thank goodness for that mentality, Army are safe in their hope. Apo bangpo! I think in the end the rest of the industry will have to do the same if they want longevity. Truly BTS have paved the way in so many ways. 💜
Agree so much on this.. Most Kpop group would wait for each turn to go in the military but BTS did it differently. I cried when I found out that 4 of them will go at the same time but I was relieved when I realized that they did this so they can all come back together by June 2025 as they promised their fans.. I mean with their solo achievements, I didnt realize that the younger half of BTS would give up the spotlight they attained this year and would go to the military in the middle of their individual success.. I thought they will buy time but they didn't.. They literally value coming back as early as they can as a group rather than spending more time for their successful solo careers.. Hands down to these 7 boys for treasuring their teamwork, brotherhood , friendship and fans more than their own selves..
This is kind of off topic, but I also think most groups try too hard, they come off cringey to the audience. BTS are just their authentic selves. Whether they’re tough, vulnerable , disappointed, playful, goofy, intelligent, empathetic, nervous, sexy, wholesome, confident, frustrated, it’s just genuine. People tend to relate to that. That’s a public service announcement to all the young people out there: don’t pretend to be something else, be yourself!
Totally agree. I do have to add though that it bothers me every time when Jungkook tries to look "cool" and he does that a lot in his solo projects. On the one hand he has this amazing natural charm that gets lost when he's not being authentic and on the other hand he's really good at emulating people, so "pretending" to be a "popstar" works quite well for him in the sense that it still looks kinda smooth and not too fake in most people's eyes.
@@nehalilisays i think i know what you mean, but id argue he only puts on this cool face for music videos. i dont see him act differently in interviews, lives or other type of promotion, so he still feels genuine and like theres a clear distinction between him and the persona he puts on for a good show. this popstar mask fits him well when its time to perform, and i think hes also good at taking it off when he leaves the stage.
i also firmly believe that he just started to experiment and theres still more to discover in the future, so for now lil man gets a pass for flashing his abs everywhere lol.
@@ajlee2168 Also I'd argue that it's Jungkook trying to curate his own personal/artistic individuality as an adult. Since he was 15 he was known as (and technically still is) the adored youngest member of a (now massively successful) group of bonded brothers. By virtue of his age Jungkook was the last/one of the last to experiment with more mature concepts and artistic conceptions of adulthood. It makes sense that, at 26 years old, Jungkook wants the fans who have supported him for all these years to perceive him, a well-muscled and tattooed professional vocalist and dancer/athlete (if we're being real) as masculine and cool rather than cute and baby-like, two descriptors that have basically been a given since he debuted. (Even though we're all aware he's a really cute guy who is very easy to adore!)
In short, I think these newer expressions of self are just Jungkook exploring himself as an artist and performer, as is his right- in the same way that he said he wanted Golden to challenge his vocal and performance abilities. The cool performer/popstar mask, despite being different than what we'd think of JK in his 4am lives, is still a genuine artistic expression of him- even just insofar as it being very Jungkook to want to push the boundaries of what he can do and express as performer and as an artistic individual. Plus, he's worked at this ridiculously hard for over a decade of his life... if anyone deserves to embody the cool popstar look on stage and flash his physique/abdominal muscles a bit (to ARMYs, no less), it's Jungkook haha :)
@nehalilisays wow I’m not gonna lie, you described the same thoughts I’ve had as well. It’s reminiscent of Justin beiber lol. But I do agree with others, that facade goes away when jk is off the stage, and he probably is just experimenting. Justin beiber would try to be that way even off stage. I can also imagine being the youngest of the group, or even just being part of a group in general, makes it hard to discover your true self. But yes, jk is very good at molding himself into whatever style he’s doing
"With BTS, there is no uniformity, there's cohesion" - that's it. That's the main reason why they work so well together, and why they are so loved. 👏🏽💜
*I think that also due to the BTS origin they managed to keep the band's union solid because they were born in a society different from the West, where sacrifices and hard work meant that whoever reached the top was entirely due to hard work, sweat, tears , many sacrifices and not the least of which was their TALENT....Then their songs have always had a motivational message that helped people in need find peace and serenity, something that western bands didn't do.💜💜*
*7 different talents formed this indestructible band and each of them contributed to the recognition of their work whether it was with the group or Solo.*
Ésto es la contestación a muchos que se preguntan porque amas a BTS💜
PORQUE SON LA DIFERENCIA DE LO QUE ES BOYBAND, SON ÚNICOS
CADA UNO TIENE SU PROPIO BRILLO, PERO JUNTOS HACEN SU BRILLO AÚN MÁS ESPECIAL 💜♾️
I'm glad you mentioned Pentatonix in your video. I was (and still am) a Pentaholic before I became ARMY, and I see many similarities between the two groups, including how they all have solo work outside the group and how they're like family and have no ego and are happy to let each other shine.
I remember a BTS interview where the interviewer asked them, who is the most ...? After a couple of questions, he said, "This one is gonna be hard. Who's the best singer?" He probably thought the singers would fight over who's the best, but of course everyone said JK. At that time I was reminded of PTX, how they would all point to Mitch when they were asked the same question.
Pure love for music united these unique guys. Hardworking, dedicated to succeed, respectful and loving to each other.
They just announced the remaining members are enlisting! I’m experiencing so many emotions. Just wanted to be in a space where ppl will understand this turmoil
Bora you are a legendary ARMY. 💜
Their love for each other is unmatched. They put the group first and it shows. Western boy bands will never compete with them.
Beautiful, as always. I've been thinking about this a lot too, lately. During Jimin's promotions, an audience started chanting, "Park Jimin!" (sweet)... BUT then Jimin encouraged them chant "BTS" instead!! I mean, who does that?! I also think teamwork is much more valued in Korea than the "rugged individuality" of the West (esp. America). That's why the West KEEPS waiting for them to "break up and go solo". WE think that's progress. Also (as you pointed out) the fact that they started out so lowly; in one small room, in one small company. - They still have that us (including Army!)-against-the-world sort of feel. They also weren't put together on a show one day, recording an album the next day and touring the day after that. They are TRULY bonded. And they ARE a super group at this point. Yay for us!!
These days with the army twitter feeling so divided seeing this video made me feel so comforted. It made me realise why I love and respect them and how they inspire me
Great points.
BTS are truly unique in their story, their ingenuity and how they have approached their careers.
I haven't come across another group like them and it really makes me proud as ARMY that I support such talented and genuine artists.
The only other boy group that I've seen this level of talent and artistry along with genuine human connection and camaraderie is A.C.E. They also all entlisted pretty much together. It really shows that they care about their fans and their artistry as well.
Looking back and taking a moment to think about what you have presented,
allowed me to realize that something that can happen like this is very rare indeed,
unlike how bands in a group would work and perform in the past.
However, with today's band and groups, I barely recall or recollect
and band that is capable of longevity, let alone, maintain that cohesiveness
that you would normally find when working with a group. Especially with a
group this big and having that many members performing with each other.
Groups like that are truly blessed indeed.
Thankfully I'm living in a year where a band/group like BTS exist for me to listen
and enjoy, up until their finest hour and beyond that.
Keep up the great work.
Enjoy!!
Our queen is back with a banger vid for sure
You, over analyzing a random off-hand idea?!? What channel did I just wonder into.... 🤣
I truly love the way your brain works, and it's so fun to see you pull together ideas. Things that may have crossed the rest of our minds in pieces but you connect them and show us a bigger picture. Well done, as always. 💜
Jk interviewed a kpop group he was a fan of and they explained their longevity in their selfless adoration of each others success. BTS really took that to heart and that is quite literally one of their best features, their willingness to learn.
Great video as always! You make good points about how their teamwork contributes to their success and also their longevity! 💜
Sidenote: I did not expect the only other group I am a huge fan of to suddenly show up in one of your videos!! 🥰 Pentaholic here and I agree that PTX are just stellar at combining their respective strengths to great effect when they work together and then use their solo projects to do things they just can’t do with PTX.
All of BTS are amazing soloists. But ego just seems to play no role when they work together. I think that (aside from them being good people) it must be mutual respect, love and trust that make this possible on top of the fact that they have been through so much as a group. But you are right, they do this with collaborators as well. And your point about selflessness is well made! The fact that Yoongi had Jimin, JK and RM on his tour finale stage blew me away. I also LOVE that they introduce themselves as „of BTS“ and make it so clear that they look forward to 2025 as much as we are 🥹🫶
Thank you for the effort of putting this together and sharing your thoughts!
Another wonderfully researched and analysed video. Thank you Ami. Reaffirms why I love BTS so much! I find people are too focused competing with BTS and ARMY than learning the lessons of their continued ascent (BTS has not even peaked!). Teamwork really does make the dream work.
You're so right. I have a bias, but I am OT7. Watching each member's last live before enlisting was haaard, but knowing that they were taking steps to come back together as soon as possible made it all so much easier than the alternative. Releasing music/videos and not being able to have a long tour or promotion schedule in order to go ahead and start that countdown... That is EVERYTHING. It's teamwork and brotherhood and love for ARMYs.
1:57 sound over individually is what set them apart from the begin. The songs needs to be perfect and therefore the members give their voice to the song no matter where their voice is gonna be or how many lines they’re gonna get. It’s all about the song sounding perfectly harmonious. I think that’s part of the reason why it’s hard for other groups to cover their songs. They’re trying too hard to fit everybody in random places of the songs based of their role in the group and not based on what fit their voices best.
I really love your videos. I hope you prepare a new video for us every week or two 😁💙.
I love Boracity!!!!
The generosity... Omg. For example: Namjoon wrote Serendipity and thought Jimin's voice would fit it better and gave it to him. That was a breakthrough point to Jimin, who was still insecure about his voice. This group is really unique in many ways.
Thank you once again for a video essay i never knew I needed! BTS is truly the manifestation of Teamwork Makes The Dreamwork!💜
I believe the genuine camaraderie and lack of ego of BTS play a very big part of their success.
Always love getting notification of another great essay! Thank you, Boracity Magazine, for all your hard work.
^_^
I would like to suggest the YT video how BTS is still paving the way, 10 ways BTS paved the way in 2023.
You two really have keen observations.
I remember how Joon cried in the festa dinner saying he needed to be an artist and know his own craft so he could contribute to the team and maintain the realness and uniqueness they all started with and it still makes me very emotional when I think about all the moments the guys voiced their individual struggles that came to even the brink of disbanding but how they would always come out of it with the same answer that in the end BTS as a team is what they truly are and without it they wouldn't truly know what else to do or that they might be happy but there would still be something missing. Not just in art, but also in life I keep learning a lot from this group.
Always look forward to your episodes ❤
PHEWWWW I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR VIDEOS
I think this was an extremely well presented video. The only thing I think I would add is that not only have they happily made way for each member to have their moment to shine without tension or fighting for the top spot; they do not see each other as competitors, but as family that they want to see succeed and they cheer for each other’s success. Being a true family of brothers has made their journey different from other groups. We are so lucky to have had the opportunity to watch them support and uplift each other
Your videos always show me how I am new to BTS and don't know them.
BTS will always be a unique group to me and how they do things are so beautiful 🥹
Thank you so much for pointing it out in this essay, it gives me a reason to love them more. There's really no other than band like them. 😭💜
They truly are a league apart. Thank you for your videos. They are always so informative.
Borahae 💜💜💜💜💜
I love your point on uniformity vs cohesion! I'd never known how to put it in words, really, but I think this is a big reason why fewer newer groups catch my eyes as much when it comes to delving in deeper as a fan (I still listen to their music, but just don't go much deeper than that)
I do wanna mention that there is only one other group that decided to do military service all together (literally all of them at the same time) but I can't remember which group it is or when they did it compared to when bts announced their plans for military service (I just remember seeing their announcement for hiatus for military and that they're not a group I actively follow)
Yo quisiera comentar de la gran estrategia del servicio militar de BTS: 1) el respeto que tiene BTS para cumplir su deber, ellos se alistaron antes de que gobierno y milicia siguieran debatiendo tonterías interminables. 2) el perfecto aprovechamiento del tiempo antes de que todos los miembros se enlistaran, catapultando sus carreras de solistas a lo más alto de la industria. 3) El tiempo tan corto de hiatus para un grupo de 7: Desde diciembre 2022 a junio o sept 2025, es una pausa de 3 años. ONF grupo de 6 se enlistaron todos juntos y así solo estuvieron año y medio en hiatus. Comparen con EXO, que son 9, llevan desde mayo 2019 hasta - posiblemente- julio 2025, porque el menor aún no se enlista, tal vez pidió prórroga: llevarían 6 años como grupo incompleto. No estoy criticando a EXO, estoy señalando que parece ser que en la industria musical coreana no tienen como prioridad tener a sus boyband completos. Pero BTS sí tuvo como prioridad cumplir con su servicio militar de la forma más eficiente posible, porque la máxima prioridad para ellos será regresar como grupo completo en 2025.
I’m crying. This hits even more after the enlistment announcement for rm, jimin, tae, and jk. The maknaes could’ve postponed, but they chose to serve together because they wanted to reunite in 2025. Even when they’re doing their duties to their country, they’re still prioritizing bts.
I was thinking the same thing. Hope the solo fans who don't understand this get it into their brains soon 😢
Truly they need teamwork and giving chance to one another to shine and most important a good leader to lead them.
“With BTS there’s no uniformity there’s cohesion “ … this quote … chefs kiss 💋
Thank you. I agree 100%. BTS is BTS. They are one of a kind, selfless, talented group who truly love music and ARMY.
BTS truly Respect and Love one another as Brothers and want each member to be Happy and fulfilled in their musicianship. That is why in my opinion BTS is different and is a success with each comeback as a group or soloist. They are Proud of what they have achieved as a collective. No one member is above BTS💜