Hey, I’m the Tasigur player, I wanted to elaborate on the Scholar of the Lost Trove nonsense. You Neoform Tasigur into Scholar, which then recasts the Neoform on the Scholar to find Broodlord, and initiate the Saw in Half + Peer line. Thanks for covering this tourney, it was my first top 16!
Is that better then just getting hullbreacher horror? Or whatever his name is like if they have interaction they would have already interacted before you peer is it just incase you don't have 2 mana positive rocks? Or just incase you have hull breacher in hand or somthing?
@@mgmed0368 it’s really just a game position dependent choice. Neoform is the ultimate toolbox piece for the deck because it just corrects my course depending on where I’m sitting. If I’m ahead, and have enough protection to guarantee the win, Neoform goes for Scholar to initiate Broodlord line. If I’m behind, it grabs Nezehal. If the board is in lockdown and I can’t push through, it grabs Toxrill. If I have the rocks on board and I have enough protection, then it grabs Hullbreaker.
Artifact combos boys that’s it. You can do broken shit. This isn’t even as broken as my Kozilek deck who can consistently head out T3/4 with haste. And once that infinite mana loop hits (there are numerous!) it’s almost game
+1 for interest in a full deck tech on the Eldrazi list! I made a casual "esper colorless" deck when MH3 came out that does some similar things, though more artifact than eldrazi focused. It felt like total jank when building it, but then sometimes it just goes off--essentially when I pull the cards that overlap with this list, so there you go. So cool to see it here. One thing I've learned from playing the deck is that it might not be obvious how strong either Glaring Fleshraker or Echoes of Eternity are, and how nuts they are together-essentially a two card combo for lethal (if you can follow up with any colorless spells, so here, all spells in the deck), where each is independently great with the rest of the deck.
Over time I feel more colorless tutors/search/filter cards will creep into this type of build to further raise its level of serious ass kicking. I had an older 2019/2020 Kozelik blast off/stax/tax that had a reputation at a now defunct local shop. Damn Covid ruined so much for small business out there. Best wishes to all
So beyond hyped to see Mihali's deck get the recognition it deserves! Mihali has been cooking it for so long, I've had the pleasure of playing against it a bunch of times. It's so cool.
Korvold player here! Thanks for highlighting PNW CEDH! Connor, the Zhulodok pilot, is a class act and a beloved member of our community! I’m sure he’d love to share the good word of the Eldrazi with everyone 😁!
Korvold is Korvold …. And will still be Korvold and nasty 🤮 copy the deck list over on moxfield and save it for yourself. Run lots of goldfish hands and if needed tweak to your liking with a few slots that rotate after you research and compare. I like to use the other lists that have thousands of of views which have also been recently updated to include recent set releases.
Thanks Ian for posting this spicy tournament breakdown. I'm JDtheDP of moxmagic and I ran Inalla...Whoop Whoop! almost made it to top 4! I run a Hoarding Broodlord line into Dualcaster mage through finale of promise and burnt offering/reanimate. I also run ashnod's alter into bloodline necromancer, very spicy infinite wizards!
Omg, this could be the next cedh list I main. Eldrazi has and will always be my favorite creature designs in magic. GET THE PERSON WHO CAN DO A DECK TECH ON HERE STAT
Im a long time colourless player here and im so stoaked to see a colourless deck doing well. Ive been on liberator for awhile now and bery soon want to try brew up the new Marvin doll but this deck is sweet and will also be trying it out! Congrats on the pilot for repping this list!
Hi, I'm not the Inalla player of the deck but i play Inalla too, hoarding broodlord have a line for dualcaster mage twinflame. All you need to do is reanimate broadlord with reanimate or persist, get saw in half, with 2 tokens take burnt offering and finale of promise, burnt offering 1 of the tokens for 8 red mana, cast finale with x = 3 and use again the reanimation spell on broadlord (either persist or reanimate) and saw in half the token, now you get dualcaster mage and twinflame with the half tokens, and with the original get some free interaction if you're afraid of something. (At this point you have 3 red mana and 3 creatures to convoke), you just make the dualcaster mage and twinflame with a bonus card by just reanimate Broadlord.
I don't know if this Inalla player know this broodlord line or he does another combo, but i made this on my Inalla list and sometimes just catch people off guard.
And this particular combo have alternative lines for broolord just comes into play with other methods, but this is the first line and work in any Rakdos deck.
27:15 Thunderdown was one of the Derevi pilots when online events were a thing, make a couple top cuts which is probably where you recognise the name from.
I love the Eldrazi and In 2019/2020 before Covid I (still have it sleeved) made a Kozilek list that just spat out ridiculous nonsense by turn 2/3 - soooo many similar cards and wow it’s gona get upgraded now. Stone Calendar, reducers, all the best mana rocks, untap keys ect ect
To further note: it would get to double digit mana by turn 2 on occasion and just blow out if unanswered tax/stax plop down. It was super fun. Kid now is 3, I still buy and build and have not had time to play. Never gona give it uppppp however and am super interested in staying up to date and compete with lots of builds I have
4:51 Reanimate Broodlord, tutor Saw in Half, Saw the Broodlord, tutor Burnt Offering and Peer, convoke Burnt Offering and sack a broodlord to make the mana to cast Peer
Hi, I'm the TnT player! Yes very much a heavy midrange deck, and it was my first tourney back in a while, so I hadn't updated with the Nadu package that has been surfacing. Interestingly, the main combo line is actually Faeburrow/Bloom Tender + Chain Stasis for infinite non-blue mana at instant speed!
Interesting seeing the Inalla player running both Scholar and Broodlord. Usually it's a pick one between broodlord, scholar, and archaomancer. They have dropped Ad Naus so there's no concern about the mana value of the deck. I guess it's to help with if one gets stuck in the hand you could still do the spellseeker loop with the other in the deck without having to find a discard outlet that would make the line more expensive.
Also there was a line you missed in derevi through preston, copy effect, something that taps for a lot of mana, and dereve: you copy derevi, sac it to legend rule, activate to put back on field making 2 copies for 2 untaps, etc. can work without preston too if you have something that taps for enough.
scholar is so that you can neoform tasigur into scholar and then recast neoform saccing scholar to find a broodlord. allows neoform to be direct win as well
5:20 Saw in half+broodlord might just grab dockside+cthonian nightmare, make infinite energy+treasures and then use that to loop broodlord and tutor for anything you want?
He doesn’t run staff of domination but with voltaic key and rings of Brighthearth you have infinite untaps with anything that makes more than 3 mana. This would include metalworker for running infinite mana. Sad tho there is no staff cuz then you can draw your deck while making infinite mana. I see he’s prob running more stax pieces to compete in the meta, just not sure how much it’s worth it rather than running full aggro
I'm surprised there's no KCI in this list. I ran it in Zhuladok so you can infinitely cast spine of Ish Sah to pop every permanent the opponent has. not sure if there's a sack outlet on this list; cant see one.
@@DREADxMAWkrark-clan ironworks! 4 drop artifact that lets you sacrifice an artifact to add 2 colorless mana. He recently added it to the list and it's made the deck a lot more explosive, card is crazy
Theres a few! Easiest ones involve basalt monolith, you can either go infinite with itself and Forsaken Monument, or Rings of Brighthearth to copy the untap (needs 2 open mana). Theres also weird lines with Voltaic Key and Rings of brighthearth on any artifact that taps for 4 mana, or rings of brighthearth on Deserted Temple targeting Scorched Ruins and itself
Hey Ian!!! Could you explain why youre such a big fan of halfling in Kinnan? He has 2 T but adds colorless and the uncounterable is unlileky to be relevant (Kinnan almost never is countered, hes mostly removed) and you have very few legendaries (uncounterable tor is nice but niche)
I have a GW Sisay deck that the entire goal is to tutor up Zhulodok and do a lot of similar things to this deck. I liked having the colors to have some better stax pieces,
I can’t speak for the Raffine player, but I’d guess the Agatha’s cauldron is to exile Razaketh so the creature you connive with gets the ability (from the counters). I assume it makes the line harder to interact with since everything is an ability and not a spell?
Theres a few ways. 1 is that rounds are timed, so if time runs out and no one has won, the game gets declared a draw. Theres a few variations depending on the tournament, such as the turn player getting a certain amount of time to finish their turn once time hits, but thats the easiest way. 2 would be IDing, or intentionally drawing. This usually happens at top tables where people have 2 wins already by the 3rd round, and will opt to draw the last few rounds because it makes their record good enough to get into the top 16 3 doesnt happen as often, but sometimes people will offer draws if there is a "lose-lose scenario", such as 2 players can present wins, but there is only enough interaction for the first player, and they will opt to take a point rather than lose the game
I was at this tournament and had no idea a Zhulodok player was present, lol. It looks like he had 1 win and 4 draws in the Swiss and squeaked into the top 16 then won the top 16 and top 4 pods back to back to take 1st. I heard on the drive home he had an early Echoes of Eternity in the top 4 and the game was over shortly after.
Also Ian how do you always manage to cover tournaments I'm at where I don't top 16 but you don't catch the ones I do? I have some terrible luck then.😂 Love the video, keep doing what you're doing my friend. You're the best.
I would prefer shorter videos sacrificing any time spent on decks that have minimal to no changes to the ones that make up the majority of competitions. This includes nadu, blue farm, kinnan, rog sai, tivit, sisay. If they vary a lot then its worth noting. But if you see its a boring copy cat of all the other ones lets keep the ball rolling. I dont need to hear you fill time scrolling and scrolling through nadu, blue farm, rog sai lists, etc, explaining that it in fact doesnt vary much.
Going to be a hater. But was that 60 person tournament really cedh? Like how the hell did that thing even do anything. The Luigi approach? Do nothing and win?
Hey, I’m the Tasigur player, I wanted to elaborate on the Scholar of the Lost Trove nonsense. You Neoform Tasigur into Scholar, which then recasts the Neoform on the Scholar to find Broodlord, and initiate the Saw in Half + Peer line. Thanks for covering this tourney, it was my first top 16!
Is that better then just getting hullbreacher horror? Or whatever his name is like if they have interaction they would have already interacted before you peer is it just incase you don't have 2 mana positive rocks? Or just incase you have hull breacher in hand or somthing?
@@mgmed0368 it’s really just a game position dependent choice. Neoform is the ultimate toolbox piece for the deck because it just corrects my course depending on where I’m sitting. If I’m ahead, and have enough protection to guarantee the win, Neoform goes for Scholar to initiate Broodlord line. If I’m behind, it grabs Nezehal. If the board is in lockdown and I can’t push through, it grabs Toxrill. If I have the rocks on board and I have enough protection, then it grabs Hullbreaker.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh makes sense :)
You gotta get the Eldrazi player on the line to do a dech tech and explain how its good.
Hey, I played in that tournament! It wins just like belbe! Stax ans early beaters! It just wins by combat!
Same, would love to see that myself!
Artifact combos boys that’s it. You can do broken shit. This isn’t even as broken as my Kozilek deck who can consistently head out T3/4 with haste. And once that infinite mana loop hits (there are numerous!) it’s almost game
@@MJ0LN1R7would be curious to see what you did there!
@@MJ0LN1R7 would be curious to see what you did and bounce some ideas off of you
+1 for interest in a full deck tech on the Eldrazi list!
I made a casual "esper colorless" deck when MH3 came out that does some similar things, though more artifact than eldrazi focused. It felt like total jank when building it, but then sometimes it just goes off--essentially when I pull the cards that overlap with this list, so there you go. So cool to see it here. One thing I've learned from playing the deck is that it might not be obvious how strong either Glaring Fleshraker or Echoes of Eternity are, and how nuts they are together-essentially a two card combo for lethal (if you can follow up with any colorless spells, so here, all spells in the deck), where each is independently great with the rest of the deck.
love fleshraker and echoes, with zhulodok out it basically turns any cascaded spell into I want to say 20 damage
Over time I feel more colorless tutors/search/filter cards will creep into this type of build to further raise its level of serious ass kicking. I had an older 2019/2020 Kozelik blast off/stax/tax that had a reputation at a now defunct local shop. Damn Covid ruined so much for small business out there. Best wishes to all
So beyond hyped to see Mihali's deck get the recognition it deserves! Mihali has been cooking it for so long, I've had the pleasure of playing against it a bunch of times. It's so cool.
Scary how close this list is to a few of the "casual" Zhulodok decks I've seen/made
ya its got me thinking i just cop a mana vault and a jewled lotus and im off to the tournaments haha
@@WACHULUKNAT Phew good thing you didn't
Korvold player here! Thanks for highlighting PNW CEDH!
Connor, the Zhulodok pilot, is a class act and a beloved member of our community! I’m sure he’d love to share the good word of the Eldrazi with everyone 😁!
Congratulations. I would like to build Korvold for my next CEDH tournament. Any recommendations?
Korvold is Korvold …. And will still be Korvold and nasty 🤮 copy the deck list over on moxfield and save it for yourself. Run lots of goldfish hands and if needed tweak to your liking with a few slots that rotate after you research and compare. I like to use the other lists that have thousands of of views which have also been recently updated to include recent set releases.
I wonder what he's going to do with crypt and jeweled lotus banned :/ Would love to still have him go over it!
Let us know if he did a deck tech
Thanks Ian for posting this spicy tournament breakdown. I'm JDtheDP of moxmagic and I ran Inalla...Whoop Whoop! almost made it to top 4! I run a Hoarding Broodlord line into Dualcaster mage through finale of promise and burnt offering/reanimate. I also run ashnod's alter into bloodline necromancer, very spicy infinite wizards!
Sick stuff! I knew I was definitely missing something haha
Omg, this could be the next cedh list I main. Eldrazi has and will always be my favorite creature designs in magic. GET THE PERSON WHO CAN DO A DECK TECH ON HERE STAT
Im a long time colourless player here and im so stoaked to see a colourless deck doing well. Ive been on liberator for awhile now and bery soon want to try brew up the new Marvin doll but this deck is sweet and will also be trying it out! Congrats on the pilot for repping this list!
Hi, I'm not the Inalla player of the deck but i play Inalla too, hoarding broodlord have a line for dualcaster mage twinflame.
All you need to do is reanimate broadlord with reanimate or persist, get saw in half, with 2 tokens take burnt offering and finale of promise, burnt offering 1 of the tokens for 8 red mana, cast finale with x = 3 and use again the reanimation spell on broadlord (either persist or reanimate) and saw in half the token, now you get dualcaster mage and twinflame with the half tokens, and with the original get some free interaction if you're afraid of something. (At this point you have 3 red mana and 3 creatures to convoke), you just make the dualcaster mage and twinflame with a bonus card by just reanimate Broadlord.
Also ashnod's altar make infinite haste tokens and infinite colorless mana with bloodline necromancer.
I don't know if this Inalla player know this broodlord line or he does another combo, but i made this on my Inalla list and sometimes just catch people off guard.
And this particular combo have alternative lines for broolord just comes into play with other methods, but this is the first line and work in any Rakdos deck.
@@YhanNogueira what are the other broodlord options outside of the given you run? Love me inalla all day
lol that’s my list I’ve been piloting sisay for a while now and have never been on the the walker line is love to chat about it
27:15 Thunderdown was one of the Derevi pilots when online events were a thing, make a couple top cuts which is probably where you recognise the name from.
I need a full breakdown on the eldrazi deck, its just so awesome to see such a unique cedh deck and for it to win too
Yup - Geekin' out here. Ran OG Kozilek back in the day, love seeing this!
I love the Eldrazi and In 2019/2020 before Covid I (still have it sleeved) made a Kozilek list that just spat out ridiculous nonsense by turn 2/3 - soooo many similar cards and wow it’s gona get upgraded now. Stone Calendar, reducers, all the best mana rocks, untap keys ect ect
To further note: it would get to double digit mana by turn 2 on occasion and just blow out if unanswered tax/stax plop down. It was super fun. Kid now is 3, I still buy and build and have not had time to play. Never gona give it uppppp however and am super interested in staying up to date and compete with lots of builds I have
Great content Ian!
I love hearing these off the wall cedh decks.
that last deck is actually unbelievably cool lmfao that's so sweet
Love my 5C decks like Sisay and Kenny, but that Zhulodok list definitely intriguing to me as well.
4:51 Reanimate Broodlord, tutor Saw in Half, Saw the Broodlord, tutor Burnt Offering and Peer, convoke Burnt Offering and sack a broodlord to make the mana to cast Peer
I imagine they ran Yavimaya for the lands that don’t tap for mana but it is also good if anyone is annoying enough to run a Void Mirror.
So cool to see Zhulodok on here!
suuuuuuch a sick winning list. Echoes of Eternity in cEDH who'd have thought
Hi, I'm the TnT player! Yes very much a heavy midrange deck, and it was my first tourney back in a while, so I hadn't updated with the Nadu package that has been surfacing. Interestingly, the main combo line is actually Faeburrow/Bloom Tender + Chain Stasis for infinite non-blue mana at instant speed!
Very cool stuff indeed, welcome back!
Interesting seeing the Inalla player running both Scholar and Broodlord. Usually it's a pick one between broodlord, scholar, and archaomancer. They have dropped Ad Naus so there's no concern about the mana value of the deck. I guess it's to help with if one gets stuck in the hand you could still do the spellseeker loop with the other in the deck without having to find a discard outlet that would make the line more expensive.
Zero losses for the Zhulodok! I think nobody took it seriously until it was too late every time lol
Also there was a line you missed in derevi through preston, copy effect, something that taps for a lot of mana, and dereve: you copy derevi, sac it to legend rule, activate to put back on field making 2 copies for 2 untaps, etc. can work without preston too if you have something that taps for enough.
Half the fun of these reports for spicy tournaments is seeing how excited you are about the spice
scholar is so that you can neoform tasigur into scholar and then recast neoform saccing scholar to find a broodlord. allows neoform to be direct win as well
5:20 Saw in half+broodlord might just grab dockside+cthonian nightmare, make infinite energy+treasures and then use that to loop broodlord and tutor for anything you want?
He doesn’t run staff of domination but with voltaic key and rings of Brighthearth you have infinite untaps with anything that makes more than 3 mana. This would include metalworker for running infinite mana. Sad tho there is no staff cuz then you can draw your deck while making infinite mana. I see he’s prob running more stax pieces to compete in the meta, just not sure how much it’s worth it rather than running full aggro
Cover the eldrazi deck!!!
I'm surprised there's no KCI in this list. I ran it in Zhuladok so you can infinitely cast spine of Ish Sah to pop every permanent the opponent has. not sure if there's a sack outlet on this list; cant see one.
KCI?
so you can just go infinite with basalt and forsaken monument. Then do infinite triggers of rings of brighthearth for infinite destruction
@rowdyruu8275 what's KCI and how do you do this? I'm changing my Kozilek deck over to Zhulodok
@@DREADxMAWkrark-clan ironworks! 4 drop artifact that lets you sacrifice an artifact to add 2 colorless mana. He recently added it to the list and it's made the deck a lot more explosive, card is crazy
The Eldrazi deck is amazing!! there is any infinite mana combo on the deck?
Theres a few! Easiest ones involve basalt monolith, you can either go infinite with itself and Forsaken Monument, or Rings of Brighthearth to copy the untap (needs 2 open mana). Theres also weird lines with Voltaic Key and Rings of brighthearth on any artifact that taps for 4 mana, or rings of brighthearth on Deserted Temple targeting Scorched Ruins and itself
Hey Ian!!! Could you explain why youre such a big fan of halfling in Kinnan? He has 2 T but adds colorless and the uncounterable is unlileky to be relevant (Kinnan almost never is countered, hes mostly removed) and you have very few legendaries (uncounterable tor is nice but niche)
It's not really about the uncounterable Kinnan and more a focus on things like uncounterable 1 ring, apple of eden and more
Uncounterable dosan probably wins the game
@@flameberga no consistently winning kinnan list is on dosan
I have a GW Sisay deck that the entire goal is to tutor up Zhulodok and do a lot of similar things to this deck. I liked having the colors to have some better stax pieces,
Scourge of standard. Love to see raffine here
I can’t speak for the Raffine player, but I’d guess the Agatha’s cauldron is to exile Razaketh so the creature you connive with gets the ability (from the counters). I assume it makes the line harder to interact with since everything is an ability and not a spell?
And he top 4 the pdx cedh finals for our area today
@@shanehall3294 that's awesome!
Will you give your Winota Deck some updates in the future? The new room dollmakers shop seems like a good update
ashnods altar bloodline necromancer infinite combo for the inalla deck
What website is in the first frame of the video? my topdeck doesn’t show this much data… esp the commander spot. Is that because I’m on mobile?
The spice is what it’s all about
Ayo, congrats to Atlas! He’s always cooking
Tym/thras is coming back, and a LOT of Rog/thras since the bans! Im definitely considering rog/thras or rogsi, as my next deck
where is the decklist, i cant find it in the link. please heeelp.
Seemingly the only difference between that zuldak deck and most casual zuldak decks is the fast mana 😂
And a few stax pieces yeah hahah
You should totally get into the whole cedh drama and pull a Rosewater
That colorless deck is WICKED!!!!
Might be wrong but i think you saw in half the broodlord for peer into the abyss and burnt offering.
Inalla pilot please verify😅
Wow! That's kinda awesome! ❤❤❤
Saw in half broodlord, get consult and oracle.
I’m dumbfounded that it beat things like sissy and blue farm.
Didn’t mark rosewater confirm that the color identity of the mightstone and weakstone was blue? Is that not correct???
I thought that was only if playing where you could meld it
Love the spicy noodles!!
Finally a Raffine deck 🙏🏽
Hell yeah!
I was hoping for 5 color turbo nadu to be what the sisay deck was doing :(
very cool tho
Draw? How do you end up in a draw in Cedh?
Theres a few ways.
1 is that rounds are timed, so if time runs out and no one has won, the game gets declared a draw. Theres a few variations depending on the tournament, such as the turn player getting a certain amount of time to finish their turn once time hits, but thats the easiest way.
2 would be IDing, or intentionally drawing. This usually happens at top tables where people have 2 wins already by the 3rd round, and will opt to draw the last few rounds because it makes their record good enough to get into the top 16
3 doesnt happen as often, but sometimes people will offer draws if there is a "lose-lose scenario", such as 2 players can present wins, but there is only enough interaction for the first player, and they will opt to take a point rather than lose the game
wait why would the kenrith deck be playing cloudshift and not ephemerate?
@@Limkmc cloudshift works with ewit lines, ephemerate doesn’t
There's a primer for it and why he runs cloudshift. It's actually really well thought out.
@@wintersakiller oooohh makes sense.
Please bless us with a Zhulodok deck tech 🙏🏻
Eldrazi players rejoice 🎉
When nadu is so busted other decks are warping their decks to play it in the 99 😂
Oh yeah it's for sure a thing 😅
How Ulalek win with all that high cmc? Im gonna have to look that up. Too intriguing. Im guessing that the cascade value is too much to overcome.
This was not ulalek
I was at this tournament and had no idea a Zhulodok player was present, lol. It looks like he had 1 win and 4 draws in the Swiss and squeaked into the top 16 then won the top 16 and top 4 pods back to back to take 1st. I heard on the drive home he had an early Echoes of Eternity in the top 4 and the game was over shortly after.
Also Ian how do you always manage to cover tournaments I'm at where I don't top 16 but you don't catch the ones I do? I have some terrible luck then.😂
Love the video, keep doing what you're doing my friend. You're the best.
idk who you talked to about the t4 game but that's not even remotely correct.
@@KujoFD that's just what I was told by the other people in the car.🤷♂️
@danielfulmer2786 Can you tell the correct story? I'm loving the idea of this deck and want to hear more about it, but content is lacking
@@KujoFDtell the correct story please
Honestly it probably just outpaces the rest. You ramp hard and play big stuff.
Eldrazi tech please!
21:39 😢
Pld eldrazi decktech
I would prefer shorter videos sacrificing any time spent on decks that have minimal to no changes to the ones that make up the majority of competitions. This includes nadu, blue farm, kinnan, rog sai, tivit, sisay. If they vary a lot then its worth noting. But if you see its a boring copy cat of all the other ones lets keep the ball rolling. I dont need to hear you fill time scrolling and scrolling through nadu, blue farm, rog sai lists, etc, explaining that it in fact doesnt vary much.
Going to be a hater. But was that 60 person tournament really cedh? Like how the hell did that thing even do anything. The Luigi approach? Do nothing and win?
Yeah with limited interaction it’s hard to understand how this won
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