Starlink Rival Demands FCC Stop Cellular Tests
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- Elon Musk SpaceX's Starlink cell phone network (DTC - Direct To Cellular) service is generating radio interference " Noise ", according to a competing company urging US regulators to shut them down!
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Elon Musk SpaceX's Starlink cell phone network (DTC - Direct To Cellular) service is generating radio interference " Noise ", according to a competing company urging US regulators to shut them down!
How will this affect the SpaceX Starlink & T-Mobile partnership?
Will Starlink's DTC service be delayed or possibly shut down?
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But if the competing company had it, no such interference would exist, right??? Right.
All of this doesn't need to be in a comment
It's painfully obvious that SpaceX/Starlink is so far ahead of the competition, the only thing the competition can do is whine to government regulators or go to the courts.
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When you fail to innovate, litigate! :D
Nonsensense!! These guys were way ahead of SpaceX and arguably, SpaceX has tried too steal there concept.
Now SpaceX is trying to muscle these guys out of their business!!
I use wi-fi calling at home because I have no cell coverage. My wi-fi comes from StarLink. I'm looking forward to DTC, it may be the reason that insures I use StarLink, even when broadband comes to my remote location.
What evidence proves that StarLink is causing any interference. Anyone can make claims, show the data, not summaries.
The may 2024 solar flares gives interference too so maybe they have to ask the sun to stop farting.
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What the FCC will do depends upon how many Senators that Omni owns.
100% correct sir. That’s exactly what it will come down to.
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I would not be surprised if Omni Space is just trying to negotiate to be bought by T-Mobile or SpaceX. It would seem the FCC could use the public good and eminent domain to force this hindrance to progress out of the way.
@@robertlook1 Well, that would be stupid and create an international incident. Omnispace has a different market and isn't a competitor.
If only we didn’t have a singular entity with a monopoly on violence believing they have the right to tell us what we can and can’t do
As bad as the FCC is, I don't think they will do anything.
Elon Musk is a target for the Biden regime, normally they probably wouldn't do anything. But they have a hard on for Elon.
I'm more excited about DTC than I have been for any technology in a long time. Even if all it is is a text being able to communicate from anywhere will be amazing.
I know T*Mobile used to run in, I believe, the 1905MHz band back before they set up that agreement with AT&T to be able to use their towers, which are it 850MHz. That was back in the days when 4G was just starting, and also why T*Mobile was known for being useless indoors. I'm wondering if SpaceX will be equipping their new Starlink satellites with these 1905MHz transceivers for this DTC service. By comparison, older WiFi, Bluetooth, and your microwave oven runs at 2400MHz, and most microwave communications also happen all over the spectrum from 1500MHz to 3000MHz and elsewhere, so I can totally see that being a thing.
That said, I would expect the FTC to basically tell OmnySpace to F off and come back later after they have tried coordinating with SpaceX based on what was presented here. However, the US government certainly has done things semiregularly that goes against the letter of the law, as well as common sense reasoning.
why don't you talk about starlink taking away our ability to manage starlink from anything but our cellphone? I manage all the rest of my network from my laptop, but can no longer access the starlink router. I bought and paid for it, and they remove function without my consent. IT STINKS!
Almost 4 min before you begin…no thanks
As a tmobile and starlink user I was looking forward to getting direct to cell but tmobile said that Magenta Max Military isn't going to get it. Thanks for nothing tmobile.
Same this is silly, not aiding us vets!
@@thesurvivalist. yep.... most of it is just lip service. It's all about the dollar.
@@postalshark Wait, they don't give you new features for military veterans?
Tell them that they should serve in the military first before telling you you're worth less than the other civilians.
You're not included in the first batch of testing, not excluded from the service. As of yet.
I call bull, sounds like the rival is sweating cause how far starlink is ahead haha
The only time the FCC really does anything is when the interference is malicious. If it isn't malicious, and between two licensees, and both are operating within their licenses, the FCC will basically tell them to go work it out.
Their knowledge is that their company will go bankrupt
Is Apple's satellite capability not using DTC ?
Omnipace can definitively smell bankruptcy coming their way as Tesla Model PI phone release gets closer and closer to reality.
cell to satellite to cell communication. does this bypass the communication networks on the ground? does this make it difficult to eavesdrop on the signal? like the Prism program. US government may have problem w DTC.
Sadly, the FCC as it is currently constituted is likely to side with OmniSpace because they don't like SpaceX/Starlink. Hopefully next year the FCC will change and SpaceX/Starlink can go back to testing.
Keep on keepin' on, man.
we would all like to see the actual operations of their only FCC commercially licensed 21 year old satellite ICO-F2/Omni-M1 Medium Earth Orbit satellite launched in June 2001 at an altitude of 10630km.
Both AT&T and Omni space with others are envious of Musk with all his accomplishments. T mobile could easily jump ahead as number 1 cell provider if coverage worldwide is possible. Omni space has 2 satellites planing on 200. Who sets the standards? Remember Beta vs VHS. Remember CCS charger plug in USA when way more Teslas were sold than anyone else. Finally adopted Teslas plug or NACS plug. Again, who sets the standard a 2 satellite company or one with thousands already in space. I am surprised apple’s GLOBALSTAR has not joined the party against Starlink.
ATT and AST are also creating a DTC service according to ATT Newsroom.
Omni will be a dead company soon enough. RIP Bozo
Nowadays so much whining, blaming and finger pointing. Just fix it. Whether solar interference, possible EMP, whatever make the satellites better or OMG cooperate with other companies so no one has interference issues. China, India and others will be launch their own versions. Do you think they care if their satellites interfere with USA satellites. Reminds me of Big 3 comparing their FSD with Tesla FSD. Big 3 states their FSD works great but only certain highways where things are regulated more. Musk basically stated you need a system that works everywhere as there is usually chaos everywhere. Road repairs, white line and other lines erased during repairs. You need a FSD that does not need perfect roads and perfect lines painted on the roads. Anyway! Common sense is like kryptonite nowadays. Musk has been called the disruptor which is finally causing change. Change is a bear.
IMO Omnispace has zero chance of success, their goal is obstruction. A quick look at the company shows they are kind of a joke. There is no real path for them to ever develop a service anyone would want to buy. Having a no real path to profitability they are hoping to obstruct SpaceX to the point SpaceX buys them or pays them off. If neither of those 2 options pan out they hope some SpaceX rival will buy Omnispace as tool to obstruct SpaceX.....In truth it may work, depending on their asking price and how receptive FCC is to Omnispace's petition SpaceX may find it cheaper to buy and shutdown Omnispace rather than fight them in court.
Probably looking for a buyout by making noise or claiming noise
Musk always comes through. It might not be tomorrow or next year but it will happen.
The 1st factory built it the USA was a cotton weaving company that channeled a river to turn a paddlewheel that turned the machinery. Later, a new company built a factory just a bit upstream diverting the river to feed their own paddlewheel. The 1st factory sued the second factory because the diversion caused a reduction of power for their factory's waterwheel. The 1st factory lost their case. This story seems to be a similar one.
SpaceX would probably even offer ride share to space for their satellites but sounds like bad grapes
If Omnispace's satellite comms cannot deal with a little background noise, then their concept isn't very robust. Even if they claimed that Starlink was intentionally jamming their signals, it still would be an admission that their technologies aren't suitable for deployment and commercial use.
The cruise industry won't like it much, either, as they won't be able to screw over cruisers for obscene amounts of money for a wifi package.
Ha ha ha! These rivals are such a hater. They have been around longer than Space X and offering people crappy service and now the only way they can compete is to buy time, by going to the FCC with all kinds of crap
omni is attempting "extortion by buyout".
Starlink having a cellular plan would do loads of damage depending how good it is as if it’s actually good it would make most places people use like t mobile and Verizon useless as why go there when you can get a used phone for cheaper or possibly just get a phone with Starlink connectivity built in if Starlink works with the companies to make it standard in the phones
These bozos need to be heavily fined if not their license revoked for harassment.
You're talking about SpaceX bozos, right??? The guys at omnispace followed all the regulations when they started their service and even though they are a smaller company, they don''t h ave to bow down to SpaceX.
BTW, these guys are not exactly "rivals" Their market is not in the US. they have already been providing services. They have every right to complain. Testing licensee issued to SpaceX was predicated on not interfering with other services.
@professorg8383 following an unjust regulation or law is not an excuse. The north did not follow laws either when they went to war to free the slaves. Are you saying that blacks should be slaved because that was not allowed? This company does not own the airwaves. It is public property they are given permission to use. They do not own the rights to the airwaves. IF they do not keep up with technology and they fail to innovate they they doom themselves to extinction. Besides that i find it h8ghly suspicious that they refuse to do any cooperation with SpaceX. Almost like they are hiding something or even lying. If then actually do have an issue why would they not acept help to resolve the issue? And third this appears to me to be a company using regulations to stop competition. Would it be OK for a buggy maker to prevent car companies from build cars? That's absurb! They have sat on this pot for too long. They either need to take a dump or give way to others. If in another 20 or 5 or even 3 years another company has better technology than SpaceX they it would be up to them to either keep up or step aside also. I spent 16 years in communications technology... land based, airwaves and satalites... you either innovate or die like the dinosaur you are.
@professorg8383 you are calling SpaceX bozos when OmniSpace is refusing to coordinate with SpaceX. They just want SpaceX to stop DTS service.
@@Leesboringlife 9mg no I'm call8ng omnispace bozo.
@@Leesboringlife They don't answer to SpaceX nor should they. They sent a lot of detail to the FCC. They would be fools to talk directly with SpaceX. The world is well aware of Musk's legal tactics. Why risk giving up any proprietary information? Why should they think Musk is not trying to steal their business? The world knows who this guy is.
My daughter is using starlink stationary and mobile. Sie lives in Porto Rico and is momentarily in Medellin for a mounth.
im ready to be one of the first clients with setalie cellphone e-sim service...
They’re getting beat to market, it is what it is.
Star link to cell is a huge deal. Why is it that this channel is the only one talking about it?
Many will at the end of the year when T-Mobile is offering it.
“I want to keep these as short as possible” Then starts getting into the subject at 3:30.
T-Mobile announced its partnership with SpaceX in August 2022.
The fruit will be picked by the end of 2024
Maybe they Omni Space should sell their "one" satellite to someone?
Is Starlink interfering with their satellites, or is it interfering with their potential for making money? I hope the FCC sees that competitors may attempt to use it as a way to stymie services that could "eat their lunch". One would hope that the FCC would take that into account and fully evaluate everything independently instead of just taking one party's word for it.
Starlink is indeed interfering with their satellites, But Omnispace is licensed by the ITC and they aren't looking to compete with Starlink.
DTC is critical to saving lives in major disasters such as a Cascadia Subduction Zone megaquake and tsunami.
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"Hey - Elon. We can't do what you're already doing. So STOP until we can catch up. SO unfair - we're telling the FCC on you."
Thus sprek Zarathustra. - AKA Starlink's rival.
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Do not believe what you heard in this video, he got it wrong! Way wrong. Omnispace does not play in the US market. Omnispace owns and operates global non-geostationary satellite infrastructure to provide mobile satellite services internationally in markets across Asia Pacific, South America, North America, Africa and the Middle East. Harnessing globally harmonized 2 GHz spectrum assets as well as advanced satellite and mobile technologies. They are licensed by the ITC. But starlink satellites go around the world!
So tired of these wannabe companies, if they want to compete then compete, but don’t lie to stop progression , having cell service oil my snowmobile breaks down 30 miles from the closest town is what’s needed signal on all the highways. It only get to -40 and colder here exposer happens quick , but atleast you stand a chance if someone is coming
really hope if and when starlink cell service comes to canada it can work across all the cell providers that are over here i already have a gen 1 dish with a standard service. if we are are lucky it will just piggy back on our preexisting accounts
I'm sure it is difficult for most Americans to appreciate the value of DTC. I live far offgrid in Mexico. To reach cell service, I must drive across a large river and travel 1 hour on dirt roads to the closest signal. During the rainy season (July-Nov) It takes several hours by horse. Also, while driving through dangerous mountain highways, there is no way to seek help in an emergency. This situation is the daily reality of much of the world.
I could care less about a smaller company whining that they want to play. If Omni has the infrastructure, by all means...But, otherwise, get off the bus.
Not the way we are supposed to do business in the US. Big guys forcing little one out of business. Musk doesn't own space! It belongs to all of us,
This is probably true... that spectrum is very small slices with small guard bands designed for cellular (pcs) communications. I think all this is misguided and the FCC needs to free up some spectrum that is designed for this use.
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don’t forget this companies based in Mexico they’re the capital for corruption. I still can’t help but wonder how these direct sale satellites are functioning. T-Mobile operates off of 660 MHz. That’s their band manufactures are sloppy and T-Mobile is not there are not filters in these receivers that not out all other frequencies other than say the 660 MHz that’s why a whole multitude of phones can exist in the same area without interference or crossing one another over. So, if Mexico can’t figure out a simple notch filter for their devices, then don’t worry about the satellite because none of it’s going to work very well and that is pretty pretty well. The standard MO and Third World countries like Mexico. Thanks. 10:34
Well the problem is with their 1.9GHz frequencies and not the 660MHz, It would clearly be illegal for SpaceX to use the 660MHz frequency. But the in the 1.9GHz 2GHz frequencies. that they inherited from Sprint. I believe it was part of the 4G PCS network There is some overlap in frequency allocation for satellite communication and mobile phone use. Although other US carriers have licences in these frequencies, but use them more for network management and not cel service. T-Mobile is kind of unique in using it it cellular service 4G I believe. This little allocation overlap is why they chose T-Mobile, because it would not technically require new allocations. It's sort of a unique sweet spot.
But enter Omnispace. Omnispace does not play in the US market. Omnispace owns and operates global non-geostationary satellite infrastructure to provide mobile satellite services internationally in markets across Asia Pacific, South America, North America, Africa and the Middle East. Harnessing globally harmonized 2 GHz spectrum assets as well as advanced satellite and mobile technologies. They are licensed by the ITU. International Telecommunications Union.
Here is a much more relevant article. www.theregister.com/2023/08/23/spacex_counter_omnispace/
DTC sounds like a good solution for non dense areas. For dense areas, smaller cells are of course better.
But to be clear: back in 2010 I had edge connection deep in the desert. They had solar powered cell towers there... I could play my online games there. This would make the whole desert coverable without having to climb the hill.
To be fair: spacex is so far ahead that they already have a monopoly. This means that spacex should be under governmental supervision, or there needs to be something that would make a competitive market in low orbit possible.
No competition, means no market, means supervision.
But in the end I will enjoy my starlink though.
I have star-link and T-Mobile. F the guys that can’t keep up.
Same
Likewise.
Hey jc your camera in your front yard sees an 1/8 of my yard turn it off. Or hey jc thanks for watching that side. What a joke. That other company knows the only chance they have is if they shut down sx. My cameras catch the front yard and also across the street. And yet the cops come over when something happens there because they fought it. I’m not spying it’s just there facing. My neighbor loves it
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Omni who???
Even tho I know it’s probably take a while and be difficult but Starlink should make a modem that can connect to Starlink satellites for phone companies to put in their phones so people can just have Starlink as a service provider instead of the other providers because it’s very clear Starlink is way better and if Starlink can get dtc to work in doors and stuff why have a service provider like version if you could get Starlink and have service anywhere
But that only hopes and dreams to have Starlink on my phone and have good service anywhere so I can ditch version
LMAO......cricket fart......priceless!!!!!
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Don’t these dopes know Apple is ALREADY doing this too?!?
Apple = emergency TEXT only.
Fair mark6! If you can’t compete, or be innovate enough to compete. Then step down.
Omni is full of it.
What are the actual bandwidths that both companies are being transmitted on.
This technology seems like old tech being used in a new way, so if it is working normally, why would you have a crossover, unless they are operating outside of their bands. Since we have these same transceivers here on Earth, by the millions, why would it be causing problems now.
Something is not right!
You a talking to mutch about your interest, please come to a point !😮
Skip around. I’ll charge you the same price.
Contact Senator Menendez. He knows how to get things done. 😮
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What going to happen they now starting to text 6g to help with ai usage
Another BIG question is when will iPads that have cellular data capability, have access to Starlink’s cell service? Let’s not forget the iPad.
So far Omni hasn’t shown to be a robust solution. Did anyone think that maybe Omni wants a peek under Starlink’s hood? So to speak of course.
Omni space is wrong
Agree!
Think about it … Starlink is in a lower orbit with its antennas pointed towards the earth, not upward to the other companies higher orbit, just that fact alone reduces interference! I don’t know the front to back ratio of the Starlink antennas, but in my guess, it at least 20db down! I’ve said enough and I’ll shut up now!
Who was there 1st?
You should push this line further. Ie- new frontier & no laws
Homnispace or wherever space need to understand that starlink is here to stay
Agree.
Who pays for the cell phone calls - The Starlink client or the network provider.? Is it only available for Starlink customers who are with T-Mobile?
It will be an add on to your T-Mobile bill, although I could see somehow joining the two accounts and getting a discount. I would however like to see some sort of way that customers, or anyone really, could have the capability to text to preordained emergency numbers (like 911) without extra fees or even an account. Abuse would be punished the same as calling 911 for no reason.
repeat clip at 3:14
Musk should call em up and tell them....hey you guys better learn how to code lol
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Mmm..this sound like Elon's large pockets can own this competitor making noise any time and boost its DTC lauch.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your kindness and support.
AST Space Mobile is the one to watch
Starlink doesn't follow the rules.