Where now it is possible to find Scythians?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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Where to find the Scythians today?
Who are the “kharakhterniks”?
And, what do they have to do with the steppe “sals”?
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The entire Central Asia from Kazakhstan to Xinjiang, from Uzbekistan to Kyrgyzia belonged to the Indo Iranians (Scythians, Alans, Sakas, Sogdians, Tocharians, Bactrians). Turks came much later. Turks have nothing to do with Scythians. Descendants of Scythians are mixed with local Indo Iranian speaking population from Eastern Europe to Western India.
@@papazataklaattiranimam Tocharians language is indeed Indo European, whatever language sample available for public view, simple thinks like 1 to 10 are very similar sounding like Iranic and Indic languages.There may be other Turkic groups living there nearby whom researches are talking about.
Scytians came from captivity in Assyria. They were the ten tribes of Israel. One of the tribes was the tribe of Dan which Danmark is named after. They conquered the most of Europe. As prophecied in the Bible Abraham became ancester to many tribes.
@@papazataklaattiranimam Tokharians were eastern Iranians. You confuse Agni Kuci with Tokharians.
@@Dogsfortruth absolute nonsense lmao
They were white
The Alan's of ossetia are the only surviving sarmatian(scythian) people who still have their sarmatian language, ethnic identity,pagan religion,etc..intact,although they have been caucausised, also the jats of hungary ,more watered down connections can be seen with the croats,Serbs,and Ukrainian ,whose ancestry was sarmatian,before they entered the balkans and Ukraine.
I don't believe in Aryan theory but There is a tribe in kerala called thiyya which shows a jentics and linguistics origin in the thian sha mountains of central asia indo sythrians came to cental asia and Indian subcontinent around 2 century BCE according to the linguistics the Iranian word deva is first mentioned in Sanskrit in 2 century BCE and it originated from proto indo European language 'dievo' many proto indo european language has this word with same meening which meens in english as 'shining' or divine this word changes in to thiya in central asia thiyan sha mountains that meens mountains of god/deva and one particular hindhu caste in kerala called thiya meens 'divyan' in native language malayalam wich meens in english shining or divine also practices theyyam/ daivam or god as their religious rituals and their centurys old oral folk storys and songs clearly mentions they came from somewhere else meening of the word thiyya is divine and the first place where genitics and linguistics both meet together is the beginning of the tian Sha mountains and indo-sythrians religion is an ancient greek religion and buddisam mixture and thiyyas shows an almost same mixture with hindhuism and thiyya have a rich marshel treditions in recorded history and their centurys old folk songs and fougrin records from 16th century onwards clearly shows they are the one who practiced and developed kalaripayattu to the world and thiyyar is the only hindhu warrior caste in entire india which formed 3 European colonial army regiments in their own caste name with Britishers they formed thiyya regiment and with french they formed french thiyya pattalam and with dutch they formed dutch chegons the chekars are a warrior section among thiyyas who's duty is to fight in wars and they are ethinically from Malabar north kerala and all this units are started to form in 1730s onwards and all these 3 regiments where started by colonial europen powers and all royal force in kerala before Indian indipendance had thiyya soldiers in their force and in entire south india there is no other hindhu caste ever had a caste based army regiment with any colonial European powers started by the europeans but in north India Britishers started few other warrior caste army regiments and historical records also shows they heavily participated in ayurveda also and latest gentical study from Indian government institutions like center for cellular science and molecular biology in Hyderabad also clearly shows thiyyas have central asian anciant Iranian ancestry and in sre lankan history srilankan people also consider thiya/Divya as indo sythrians and devas even german nazi seintists before Indian indipendance also came this area to study these groups photos are in net but indian government is now trying to eliminate this caste people from history now all their historical records are only getting from outside sources and trying to mix with a south kerala caste called ezhava a native caste which never even allowed to take a sword or never ever participated in a royal army or a war before Indian indipendance according to the recorded history and they blocked all thiyya Wikipedia pages from 2013 and blocked remaining thiyyar pages in 2022 even the smallest caste in india has their own wiki pages thiyyas are the biggest hindhu caste in Malabar kerala and with the support of government they are changing all thiyya warriors as ezhavas and because of thiyyas fougrin origin government also trying to eliminate thiyya community from all records to localise or indianise Indian history even more deeper
@@sreenarayanram5194 thank you for that very detailed reply.....I will look into that further ,but you see the u tube video was dealing with sarmstian descendants not specifically aryans,however from what I am aware the last known peoples today with the strongest vestiges of sarmatian genes and language are the Alan's of ossetia....however their gene pool only survives on the female side... .as the males were mainly killed off by the invading Mongols post roman empire... they the Alan's had settled here in the caucausus..after Rome defeated them....yes no doubt some branches of sarmatian went to India.....they originally were based on the borders of the persian empire...but were not strictly speaking Iranian....aryan is a very general term,and what constitutes aryan is in my opinion very much open to debate.. the truth is there are no pure races or ethnic groups all humans are Mongols....completely mixed and ethnic identities,languages, cultures etc..are always changing..... as for the religion of the sarnatians I believe it varied according to geographical influences but as a general rule they were pagan worshipping many gods ,spirits etc..one main god was surya...the sun and a war god like the greek ♈ ares.... which they also symbolised as a sword stuck into the ground....in conan the barbarian stories called krom or krem? Also I think the arthurian legend of uk,also comes from this idea of the knights of the round table and the sword in the stone....as sarmatian warriors were based in uk in their thousands under the roman empire ...as they were good horseman and used the powerful compound bow of the eurasian steppes.. their homeland ?
@@lightningspirit2166 Pretty sure the Scythians were not pagan. Their later ancestry deposited stones, in multiple geographic locations, engraved with the 10 Commandments written in Hebrew.
@@user-gs7wb1dt8m their religion was pagan according to the conventional ,historical sources I have researched,however if you have any christian references please let me know , if you look today in ossetia ,some alans still practice their pagan religion, however most are christian orthodox now,i believe they convertedwhen russia annexed ossetia ....
@@lightningspirit2166 Interesting. The stones found in America, with the 10 Commandments written in Hebrew, are fairly well known. You can look up the David Wyrick stone found in Newark, Ohio found in 1860 for one example. Can you list any of the conventional/historical/archeological sources that proved them to be pagan?
Technically the Alans, nowadays Ossetians, are the descendants of queen Tomyrys and the Massaegeati scythian tribe
Not really. Massagaegeati are and Iranian tribe from the Easter side of Caspian sea. The Alans are from Pontic Steppes (just look up Alania)...different tribes, different people, but all are Iranian tribes.
I had a DNA test a few years ago. Sythian markers came out in the results but also Huns, Ukraine, Germanic, Saxon and Celts. The results were from my mother's side and she was Irish.
Which race are you and where do you live?
@@drakenkraken he stated what race he was above
@@zaciroth I actually asked which country he lives in and which nation he belongs to.
@@drakenkraken Literally reading above and you asked "Which race are you and where do you live?" but whatever bro. He or she is obviously of Northern European ancestry for the most part.
@@zaciroth Do you find my question disturbing?
I am a Polish Sarmato-Scythian. Glory to all my brethren
Glory to you cousin
Glory to Scythia, brother.
ooooh, my son!
Glory to all iranian races!
Scythian, also called Scyth, Saka, and Sacae, member of a nomadic people, originally of IRANIAN stock, known from as early as the 9th century bce who migrated westward from Central Asia to southern Russia and Ukraine in the 8th and 7th centuries bce
Hungarian here, good to se you brothers, we came from there, kind of a long vacation
We have macar tribe in mongolia who came here during genghis khan's time I think they were eastern hungarians. They came with the Asud(jasz) tribe of alan's.
@@teovu5557 could be because we have a place called Jászság, i think its a big plain and Jász people live there
Eastern Europeans also claim Scythian blood and South-Central Asians like Afghan/Pashtuns too. But the thing is both are right. Both have the Scythian DNA although Pashtuns still speak the Eastern Iranian language. Both groups have the DNA. Scythians lived throughout eastern europe till Central Asia and eventually Southern Central Asia. So everyone here is right except for the turks that are claiming it. Thats just nonsense.
@Atrak You have to study Central Asian history man. Before the Turkic tribes moved from North Central Asia. There were only Eastern iranian tribes living in Central Asia. All facts whether you like it or not.
@Atrak You are right on this one. They indeed mixed. I find Uzbeks pretty much mixed. But you have to be honest a lot of them are more Mongoloid then Caucasian. But you are right though. They have indeed Scythian (Or other Eastern Iranian like Bactrian, Khwamerzians, Sogdians, Yuezhi or Kushan) blood.
I am a Hindko speaking Indo Scythian Muslim. We speak like Aryans but have a lifestyle like Afghans
We have absolutely no information of their language, zero proof of any Iranian affility linguistically. We Hungarians also hold in our legends that Scythians are our (mythical) forefathers. Here is an interestng genetic study on that: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6193700/
@Atrak You are probably right. Turkic peoples are the descendents of the Scythians culturally. Genetically many other peoples too. Linguistically, nobody knows, since we have no remnants of Scythian language. Zero.
In India, Jats living in North India are said to be Scythians.
Mr Shukla
Indo-Scythians?
@@papazataklaattiranimam
We have high NE - EURO gene higher than rest of india .
That y he is saying
www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/what-the-harappa-ancestry-project-has-resolved
There is actually no proof to this and I can give you a well cited research paper that sheds nicely the light on this.
Yeah jats are said to be the scythian
@BLUE DOG Not denying. You could be very right. Even my own community has arguably some foreign influence. Or at least people very keenly like to believe in it .But in the end we are simply mixed people. Period. How to prove it? Look at the research that can tell you how much of someone's DNA is from where. Do you or me know better than them? Is there only one ancestor who breeds all? If we are mixed, then surely we would have some pretty diverse ancestors. Why favor one over another? Can breeding with the locals be denied, when mostly plunderers/warriors that arrive in a country are mostly men?
My problem is that people are very keen to jump to the conclusions that they feel happy and proud about. Just looking for a chance. Even older people would not be so desperate to make their own community/caste look 'special'. We today are. Talking about being more stupid. Look at the state of our country India. We can do much much better I think.
Jatt and Jaats in North India are the descendants of Scythians.. They came all the way from Middle East Asia.. Now they’re inhabiting all around the world with different surnames.
Once upon a time Denmark was also known as JattLand.
Scythians are born talented at Martial Arts and Farming (Ploughing). They were mostly farmers, but also considered as the most bravest people out there; they also fought many battles with Mughals and other rulers such as Alexander the Great (328-27 BC), Taimur, Nadir Shah, Ahmad Shah Abdali, Mahmood Ghaznavi and Mohammad Gauri.
According to many historians there was a time when there was no one in Asia and Europe who would stand a ground against Scythians Jatts.
Once they also attacked on Greece and won Athens as well. They ruled Iran and Afghanistan for quite a long time, then they moved to Sindh (ruled 137 years) and North West India; they also won Scandinavia in 2000BC. The last ruler from Jatt Clan (Scythians) was Albaaroo of Spain in 10th century.
In this day and age, they are mostly named as Jatt, Jaat, Jot, Jateh, Goat, Goth, Gete, Jetti, Jette, Juti, Jut, Jattu according to the region.
If you look at any History book or genetic test; you would know this is not true
Jaats are native south asians. they are not outsiders
@Ice age jutt jattland jat means getae jat iin aryans sanskritic iranic
@Ice age scityians was aryans eastern iranians semitic kazar gypsy central asia eastern europe polish serbia bulgaria dacia scotish irish and british french also spanish from scityians aryans scityans is kids of aryans hitite and mittanii
@Ice age ay forgot austrians vizigots aryans scityians tribe allaric scityyians mix with huns army gog turkthey not dispaear
@Ice age yes north india and south evolved from scityians saka masagete
The Scythian, Saka were an eastern Iranian people, blue eyes, blonde hair, and big eyes,and skilled people, not the children of Attila, Mongolian chinghis Khan Timor laun, please don't make fantasy book, and history.
Herodotus wrote that the Scythians ( or Saka ) were a heterogeneous group , having different customs and languages ( Minns 1971 )
The Scythians were an Iranian or proto- Turkic steppe nomadic group that inhabited the southern steppes of Russia during the ancient period. They were gradually replaced by other nomadic groups. The Byzantines, however, commonly referred to all nomads regardless of location as Scythians, even during the medieval period.
Timothy May. “The Training of an Inner Asian Nomad Army in the Pre-Modern Period.” The Journal of Military History, vol. 70, no. 3, 2006, pp. 617-635.
Second Theory is True,because Scythians were genetically %0.00 iranian
Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
Unterländer, M., Palstra, F., Lazaridis, I. et al.Ancestry and demography and descendants of Iron Age nomads of the Eurasian Steppe. Nat Commun 8, 14615 (2017).
We observed particularly high similarity between the Tagar and Classic Scythians from the North Pontic region.
In a comparison of our Tagar series with modern populations in Eurasia, we detected similarity between the Tagar group and some modern Turkic-speaking populations (with the exception of the Indo-Iranian Tajik population) (Fig 7; S2 Table). Among the modern Turkic-speaking groups, populations from the western part of the Eurasian steppe belt, such as Bashkirs from the Volga-Ural region and Siberian Tatars from the West Siberian forest-steppe zone, were more similar to the Tagar group than modern Turkic-speaking populations of the Altay-Sayan mountain system (including the Khakassians from the Minusinsk basin) (Fig 7).
Based on our results, we can preliminarily conclude that there was genetic continuity, at least partially, between the Early, the Middle and the Late Tagar populations. We did not find evidence of extensive gene exchange between the Tagar population and any genetically distinct (with respect to the mtDNA pool) human groups.
Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC)
Pilipenko AS, Trapezov RO, Cherdantsev SV, Babenko VN, Nesterova MS, et al. (2018)Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC). PLOS ONE 13(9): e0204062.
Arzhan-2, the archaeological site of world significance, a national treasure of peoples of Tuva and Russia, located in the «Valley of Kings» (Piy-Khemsk District, Tyva Republic), was investigated in 2001-2004 by the Central Asian Archaeological Expedition of the State Hermitage Museum headed by K.V. Chugunov. The sites has been dated to the 7th c. BC and attributed to the Scythian-Siberian cultural community. When exploring the «royal» burial of the early Scythian site of Arzhan-2, the scientists faced the questions of the origin of the buried, periodization and chronology of the monument, its archaeological-cultural attribution, the autochthonous nature of the population that left it, and its relationship with other Eurasian early nomadic cultures. The present study is addressing the most important issue of the appearance of the buried people and characteristics of their anthropological type. The material for the study was comprised of male and female skulls from burial 5 of Arzhan-2 mound. The article describes in detail the process of reconstruction of the physical appearance of the deceased and provides examples of calculating ante mortem parameters based on craniometric measurements. The complex stages of preliminary work related to the restoration of skulls and manufacturing of their exact copies are highlighted. The results of the physical appearance reconstruction are presented in the form of visual museum objects - sculptural portraits. The scientific reconstruction of the ante mortem appearance on skulls of the «king» and «queen» was carried out in the Laboratory of Anthropological Reconstruction of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences by anthropologists Drs E.V. Veselovskaya and R.M. Galeev. In anthropological terms, the buried show a peculiar mosaic of Caucasoid and Mongoloid features. They are characterized by brachycephaly and dome-shaped head, with notably developed rugosity of the supercilium in the man and its absence in the woman. For the man, an average width of the face and a narrow forehead of medium height are noted. The woman has broad face and forehead, the height of the forehead is average. Both portraits are characterized by prominent position of eyeballs and large eyes. Man’s nose is short, prominent, with convex dorsum. Woman’s nose has a wavy dorsum, and is slightly prominent. On the male portrait, the cheekbones are moderate, on the female one - high and prominent. Faces of the «royal» persons are flattened in the upper part, with a certain degree of alveolar prognathism. The lower jaw of the man is medium in size, narrow in the corners. For the woman, some gracility of the lower jaw can be noted.
Veselovskaya, E.V. & Galeev, Ravil. (2020). Anthropological reconstruction of the physical appearance of the «king» and «queen» from the early Scythian burial and memorial complex of Arzhan-2. VESTNIK ARHEOLOGII, ANTROPOLOGII I ETNOGRAFII. 112-122. 10.20874/2071-0437-2020-49-2-10.
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari9649 I think all the comments about Scythians you are interested were prepared by Turkish, not other sources, for this topic please read the Chinese, Arab, and western sources , I already knew a lot about Scythians, Saka as an eastern Iranian, not Turkic people at all, even the Turkic people make false history for claiming about Turanian people too, actually the Turanian were an eastern Iranian north of Oxus River or simply Amu river,my friend,no body hides the history for own purposes, thanks alot for your search about this topic,and good luck.
@@mikebob5844
Herodotus wrote that the Scythians ( or Saka ) were a heterogeneous group , having different customs and languages ( Minns 1971 )
The Scythians were an Iranian or proto- Turkic steppe nomadic group that inhabited the southern steppes of Russia during the ancient period. They were gradually replaced by other nomadic groups. The Byzantines, however, commonly referred to all nomads regardless of location as Scythians, even during the medieval period.
Timothy May. “The Training of an Inner Asian Nomad Army in the Pre-Modern Period.” The Journal of Military History, vol. 70, no. 3, 2006, pp. 617-635.
Second Theory is True,because Scythians were genetically %0.00 iranian
Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
Unterländer, M., Palstra, F., Lazaridis, I. et al.Ancestry and demography and descendants of Iron Age nomads of the Eurasian Steppe. Nat Commun 8, 14615 (2017).
We observed particularly high similarity between the Tagar and Classic Scythians from the North Pontic region.
In a comparison of our Tagar series with modern populations in Eurasia, we detected similarity between the Tagar group and some modern Turkic-speaking populations (with the exception of the Indo-Iranian Tajik population) (Fig 7; S2 Table). Among the modern Turkic-speaking groups, populations from the western part of the Eurasian steppe belt, such as Bashkirs from the Volga-Ural region and Siberian Tatars from the West Siberian forest-steppe zone, were more similar to the Tagar group than modern Turkic-speaking populations of the Altay-Sayan mountain system (including the Khakassians from the Minusinsk basin) (Fig 7).
Based on our results, we can preliminarily conclude that there was genetic continuity, at least partially, between the Early, the Middle and the Late Tagar populations. We did not find evidence of extensive gene exchange between the Tagar population and any genetically distinct (with respect to the mtDNA pool) human groups.
Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC)
Pilipenko AS, Trapezov RO, Cherdantsev SV, Babenko VN, Nesterova MS, et al. (2018)Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC). PLOS ONE 13(9): e0204062.
Arzhan-2, the archaeological site of world significance, a national treasure of peoples of Tuva and Russia, located in the «Valley of Kings» (Piy-Khemsk District, Tyva Republic), was investigated in 2001-2004 by the Central Asian Archaeological Expedition of the State Hermitage Museum headed by K.V. Chugunov. The sites has been dated to the 7th c. BC and attributed to the Scythian-Siberian cultural community. When exploring the «royal» burial of the early Scythian site of Arzhan-2, the scientists faced the questions of the origin of the buried, periodization and chronology of the monument, its archaeological-cultural attribution, the autochthonous nature of the population that left it, and its relationship with other Eurasian early nomadic cultures. The present study is addressing the most important issue of the appearance of the buried people and characteristics of their anthropological type. The material for the study was comprised of male and female skulls from burial 5 of Arzhan-2 mound. The article describes in detail the process of reconstruction of the physical appearance of the deceased and provides examples of calculating ante mortem parameters based on craniometric measurements. The complex stages of preliminary work related to the restoration of skulls and manufacturing of their exact copies are highlighted. The results of the physical appearance reconstruction are presented in the form of visual museum objects - sculptural portraits. The scientific reconstruction of the ante mortem appearance on skulls of the «king» and «queen» was carried out in the Laboratory of Anthropological Reconstruction of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences by anthropologists Drs E.V. Veselovskaya and R.M. Galeev. In anthropological terms, the buried show a peculiar mosaic of Caucasoid and Mongoloid features. They are characterized by brachycephaly and dome-shaped head, with notably developed rugosity of the supercilium in the man and its absence in the woman. For the man, an average width of the face and a narrow forehead of medium height are noted. The woman has broad face and forehead, the height of the forehead is average. Both portraits are characterized by prominent position of eyeballs and large eyes. Man’s nose is short, prominent, with convex dorsum. Woman’s nose has a wavy dorsum, and is slightly prominent. On the male portrait, the cheekbones are moderate, on the female one - high and prominent. Faces of the «royal» persons are flattened in the upper part, with a certain degree of alveolar prognathism. The lower jaw of the man is medium in size, narrow in the corners. For the woman, some gracility of the lower jaw can be noted.
Veselovskaya, E.V. & Galeev, Ravil. (2020). Anthropological reconstruction of the physical appearance of the «king» and «queen» from the early Scythian burial and memorial complex of Arzhan-2. VESTNIK ARHEOLOGII, ANTROPOLOGII I ETNOGRAFII. 112-122. 10.20874/2071-0437-2020-49-2-10.
Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Saka, even those far to the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly "Europid" features, although mixed 'Euro-mongoloid" phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.
Сергей Иванович Руденко (Sergei I. Rudenko) (1970). Frozen Tombs of Siberia: The Pazyryk Burials of Iron Age Horsemen. University of California Press. pp. 45-46. ISBN 978-0-520-01395-7. Archived from the original on 2017-03-27. Retrieved 2016-09-25.
tajiks and yaghnobis are move to the north they became scythians
@@anonimoxmail5952 the Turk is the children of Attila, Mongolian chinghis, Tamirlan all of them came to history in 400AD, so don't bother me, I know you're sick people,and try to make fantasy history from your stomach.
I would love to see a similar story about the Scythian remains in Kazakhstan! I am reading about some of it at the moment.
I don't believe in Aryan theory but There is a tribe in kerala called thiyya which shows a jentics and linguistics origin in the thian sha mountains of central asia indo sythrians came to cental asia and Indian subcontinent around 2 century BCE according to the linguistics the Iranian word deva is first mentioned in Sanskrit in 2 century BCE and it originated from proto indo European language 'dievo' many proto indo european language has this word with same meening which meens in english as 'shining' or divine this word changes in to thiya in central asia thiyan sha mountains that meens mountains of god/deva and one particular hindhu caste in kerala called thiya meens 'divyan' in native language malayalam wich meens in english shining or divine also practices theyyam/ daivam or god as their religious rituals and their centurys old oral folk storys and songs clearly mentions they came from somewhere else meening of the word thiyya is divine and the first place where genitics and linguistics both meet together is the beginning of the tian Sha mountains and indo-sythrians religion is an ancient greek religion and buddisam mixture and thiyyas shows an almost same mixture with hindhuism and thiyya have a rich marshel treditions in recorded history and their centurys old folk songs and fougrin records from 16th century onwards clearly shows they are the one who practiced and developed kalaripayattu to the world and thiyyar is the only hindhu warrior caste in entire india which formed 3 European colonial army regiments in their own caste name with Britishers they formed thiyya regiment and with french they formed french thiyya pattalam and with dutch they formed dutch chegons the chekars are a warrior section among thiyyas who's duty is to fight in wars and they are ethinically from Malabar north kerala and all this units are started to form in 1730s onwards and all these 3 regiments where started by colonial europen powers and all royal force in kerala before Indian indipendance had thiyya soldiers in their force and in entire south india there is no other hindhu caste ever had a caste based army regiment with any colonial European powers started by the europeans but in north India Britishers started few other warrior caste army regiments and historical records also shows they heavily participated in ayurveda also and latest gentical study from Indian government institutions like center for cellular science and molecular biology in Hyderabad also clearly shows thiyyas have central asian anciant Iranian ancestry and in sre lankan history srilankan people also consider thiya/Divya as indo sythrians and devas even german nazi seintists before Indian indipendance also came this area to study these groups photos are in net but indian government is now trying to eliminate this caste people from history now all their historical records are only getting from outside sources and trying to mix with a south kerala caste called ezhava a native caste which never even allowed to take a sword or never ever participated in a royal army or a war before Indian indipendance according to the recorded history and they blocked all thiyya Wikipedia pages from 2013 and blocked remaining thiyyar pages in 2022 even the smallest caste in india has their own wiki pages thiyyas are the biggest hindhu caste in Malabar kerala and with the support of government they are changing all thiyya warriors as ezhavas and because of thiyyas fougrin origin government also trying to eliminate thiyya community from all records to localise or indianise Indian history even more deeper
James Tod[25] writes that the tribes here alluded to are the Haihaya or Aswa, the Takshak, and the Jat or Getae; the similitude of whose theogony, names in their early genealogies, and many other points, with the Chinese, Tatar, Mogul, Hindu, and Scythic races, would appear to warrant the assertion of one common origin.
Professor B. S. Dhillon states that the Jats are mainly of Indo-Scythian lineage with composite mixing of Sarmatians, Goths & Jutes in History and study of the Jats.[26] Historian James Tod agreed in considering the Jats to be of Indo-Scythian Stock.[27] Moreover, Sir Alexander Cunningham, Former Director-General of the Archaeological Survey of India, considered the Jats to be the Xanthii (a Scythian tribe) of Scythian stock who he considered very likely called the Zaths (Jats) of early Arab writers.[28] He stated "their name is found in Northern India from the beginning of the Christian era." These people were considered by early Arab writers to have descended from Meds and Zaths.[29][30] Sir Cunningham believed that they "were in full possession of the valley of the Indus towards the end of the seventh century.[31]
Stephen Fuchs suggests that the Jats probably migrated from Central Asia to India as a "predatory nomadic tribe".[32] Natalya Romanovna Guseva considered the Jats to be the descendants of the Sakas.[33]
It has also been suggested that "the Rajputs proper were of mixed origin - pre-Muslim invaders such as Scythians, Bactrians, Parthians, Hunas and Gurjaras who came in before, say, the end of the 7th century."[34]
Sir Alexander Cunningham, (Former Director-General of the Archaeological Survey of India) wrote: The Xanthii (a Scythian tribe) are very probably the Zaths (Jats) of the early Arab writers. As the Zaths were in Sindh to the west of the Indus, this location agrees very well with what we know of the settlement of the Sakas (Scythians) on the Indian frontier.[35]
Sir John Marshall, (Former Director-General of the Archaeological Survey of India) wrote: "These Scythian invaders came principally from the three great tribes of Massagetae (great Jats), Sacaraucae, and Dahae (still exists as a Jat clan of Punjab)[36], whose home at the beginning of the second century B.C. was in the country between the Caspian sea (sea) and the Jaxartes river (Central Asia).[37]
Arthur Edward Barstow wrote: "Greeks of Bactria (partly modern Afghanistan), expelled by the hordes of Scythians, entered India in the second and first centuries BC and are said to have penetrated as far as Orissa (an Indian province in south-east). Meanwhile the Medii, Xanthii, Jatii, Getae and other Scythian races, were gradually working their way from the banks of the Oxus (River valley in Central Asia) into Southern Afghanistan and the pastoral highland about Quetta (a Pakistani city), whence they forced their way by the Bolan Pass, through the Sulaiman Mountains into India, settling in the Punjab about the beginning of the first century AD. It is from these Scythian immigrants that most of the Jat tribes are at any rate partly descended."[38]
A. H. Bingley wrote: "It is from these Scythian Immigrants that most of the Jat tribes are at any rate partly descended."[39]
Professor Joyce Pettigrew wrote: "Another view holds that the Jats came from Asia Minor and Armenia in the successive invasions during the period 600 B.C. to A.D. 600."[40]
Professor Henry Smith Williams wrote: "The extent of the Scythian invasion has been variously estimated. Some scholars believe that they virtually supplanted the previous population of India (means Punjab), and there seems little doubt that by far the most numerous section of the Punjab population is of Scythian origin."[41]
Professor Pritam Singh Gill wrote: "There is a general concensus of opinion that Jats, and with them Rajputs and Gujjars were foreigners who came from their original home, near the Oxus, Central Asia."[42]
Professor Tadeusz Sulimirski wrote: "The evidence of both the ancient authors and the archaeological remains point to a massive migration of Sacian (Sakas)/Massagetan ("great" Jat) tribes from the Syr Daria Delta (Central Asia) by the middle of the second century B.C. Some of the Syr Darian tribes; they also invaded North India."[43]
Horace Arthur Rose wrote: "Many of the Jat tribes of the Punjab have customs which apparently point to non-Aryan origin. Suffice it to say that both Sir Alexander Cunningham and Colonel Tod agreed in considering the Jats to be of Indo-Scythian Stock. The former identified them with the Zanthi of Strabo (Greek Geographer of the ancient times) and the Jatii of Pliny (Roman writer) and Ptolemy (Another Greek Geographer of the ancient times); and held that they probably entered the Punjab from their home on the Oxus (in Central Asia) very shortly after the Meds or Mands (still exist as one of the Jat clans of the Punjab), who also were Indo-Scythians, and who moved into the Punjab about a century before Christ."[44]
Sir Henry Miers Elliot wrote: "These ignorant tribes (Jats) pointing to the remote Ghazni (Afghanistan) as their original seat, the very spot we know to have been occupied by the Yuechi, or, as Klaproth says, more correctly, Yuti, in the first centuries of our era, after the Sakas (a Scythian tribe) were repelled back from the frontiers of India, and left the country between India and Persia open for their occupation. The Jat tribes not doubt emigrated, no at all once, but at different times, and it is probable that those in the North-West are among the latest importations."[45]
I. Sara wrote: "Recent excavations in the Ukraine and Crimea. The finds points to the visible links of the Jat and Scythians."[46]
Sir Mountstuart Elphinstone Grant Duff wrote: "My conclusion, therefore, is, that the Jats may be of Scythian descent."[47]
Ujagir Singh Mahil wrote: "Jat were called Scythians; because they were the inhabitants of the ancient country of Scythia. The Jats who invaded the Punjab and conquered India up to Benares were called Indo-Scythians."[48]
James Francis Katherinus Hewitt wrote: "Further evidence both of the early history and origin of the race of Jats, or Getae, is given by the customs and geographical position of another tribe of the same stock, called the Massagetae, or great (massa) Getae."[49]
Sir George Fletcher MacMunn (Sir and Lt. General) wrote: "Alexander came to India in his capacity as the holder of the Persian throne. From his camp near Kabul (Afghanistan), the Macedonian (Alexander) summoned those chiefs whom Skylax (Persian general) had conquered in the old time afore, to come and renew their homage to their ancient Persian overlord in the person of himself. Several obeyed his summons, others did not, and it has been surmised that those who did were later arrivals, of Jat or Scythian origin, outside the normal Aryan fold as later comers to India."[50]
Syed Muhammad Latif wrote: "A considerable portion of the routed army of the Scythians settled in the Punjab, and a race of them, called Nomardy, inhabited the country on the west bank of the Indus (river). They are described as a nomadic tribe, living in wooden houses, after the old Scythian fashion, and settling where they found sufficient pasturage. A portion of these settlers, the descendants of Massagetae, were called Getes, from whom sprung the modern Jats."[51]
Dr. Gopal Singh wrote: "The Jats of the Panjab, are Scythians in origin and came from Central Asia, whose one branch migrated as far south in Europe as Bulgaria. "[52]
N. Singh wrote: "The Scythians appear to originate from Central Asia. They reached Punjab between 50 B.C. and A.D. 50. It seems probable that the Scythian ancestors of the Jats entered the Sindh Valley (presently in Pakistan Kashmir) between 100 B.C. and A.D. 100."[53]
Satya Shrava wrote: "The Jats are none other than the Massagetae (Great Getae) mentioned in Diodorus as an off-spring of the ancient Saka tribe.... a fact now well-known."[54]
Bakhshish Singh Nijjar wrote: "The Jats are the descendants of Scythians, whose kingdom's capital was Scythia, in the present Ukraine (Ukrainian), Soviet Social Republic, is the constituent Republic of the European USSR (Population 49,757,000) in 1947. Now Ukraine's capital is Kiev, the third leading city in Russia. Before the invasion of the golden herd, 13th century B.C. Scythian, ancient kingdom of indeterminate boundaries, centered in the area north of the Black Sea."[55]
Rima Hooja suggests that the Jats are "probably descendants of the Scythians who entered India in early historical times".[56]
Jatt and Jaats in North India are the descendants of Scythians.. They came all the way from Middle East Asia.. Now they’re inhabiting all around the world with different surnames.
Once upon a time Denmark was also known as JattLand.
Scythians are born talented at Martial Arts and Farming (Ploughing). They were mostly farmers, but also considered as the most bravest people out there; they also fought many battles with Mughals and other rulers such as Alexander the Great (328-27 BC), Taimur, Nadir Shah, Ahmad Shah Abdali, Mahmood Ghaznavi and Mohammad Gauri.
According to many historians there was a time when there was no one in Asia and Europe who would stand a ground against Scythians Jatts.
Once they also attacked on Greece and won Athens as well. They ruled Iran and Afghanistan for quite a long time, then they moved to Sindh (ruled 137 years) and North West India; they also won Scandinavia in 2000BC. The last ruler from Jatt Clan (Scythians) was Albaaroo of Spain in 10th century.
In this day and age, they are mostly named as Jatt, Jaat, Jot, Jateh, Goat, Goth, Gete, Jetti, Jette, Juti, Jut, Jattu according to the region.
@@harvindersingh8705 AHIRS ARE SYTHIANS.
SHAKO KA RAJYA RAJASTHAN AUR MAHARASHTRA ME BHI THA WAHA KOI JAT NHI PAYA JATA HAI.
AUR HA SHAKO KA SHASHAN PATNA TAK THA WAHA KOI JAT YA GURJAR KYO NHI HAI.
SIRF FARZI HISTORY BANA RAHE HO BAS.
JAT PERSIAN KISAN ,INDUS VALLEY KE KISANO KA EK SAMOOH HAI.
@@modernthinker5310 just read the main comment by Putra E Punjab.. he gave reference of dozens of writers and historians, do you really think they all were lying or have no knowledge about history?!
@@modernthinker5310 lol ahirs were the tribal pastrolists in gangetic valley and have nothing to do with scythians.They were one of the tribes mixed among others to form rajputs.
@@eishaanchahal180 The Western kshtrap was founded by Abhiras.
The very first Scythian overlord of Gujarat and sindh and Malwa was King Abhiraka of Kshrata dynasty.
His Grandson Nahpana extended the scythian kingdom to Sahyadri Mountains, they adopted Buddhist religion and formed the great chaityas and Viharas of Allora caves.
I am Finnish and My ancient DNA from most to least, Scythian second, and nicely can see the whole path from East to Europe > Viking (Swedish), Scythian, Early Slav, Kievan Rus, White Croat, Sarmatian, Longobard, Ostrogoth, Baltic, Saka, Alemanni, Svear, Hun, Celt.
I took dna test
Fascinating history
I learned so much
As a pashtun i'm a descendant of the scythians and sakas
This culture is almost IDENTICAL to what I read in the Norse sagas about Odin and the Vikings, Scythia in our tongue is Svithjod but many people wrongly thinks it means Sweden.
I have been saying for a while now that the vikings migrated out from Scythia or southern Siberia, our sagas strongly asserts this.
Great to get some insights into the true origins of the vikings, this is a fantastic episode!
... that makes a lot of sense, actually.
I'm not really ever surprised to hear these kinds of revelations about our ancient origins (regardless of where in the world we're talking) ... in comparison to what information we DO have, the amount we don't know is exponentially higher.
There is a theory that Odin may have been a Scythian king or cheiftan who migrated North-East from the steppe with the tough and rugged people that would become the Vikings
Sweden is mostly old Europeans and one slavic tribe that made them indo European. Vikings are not a nation, they existed few hundred years, and more like sea cossacks. In slavic and sanskrit Svet means light.
It's not something that only you are saying - this is confirmed time and time again in Ancient History. The Scythians are the glue that binds together Europeans. The Dorian Greeks referred to the Scythians as their uncivilized brothers and seemed to have much respect for their free way of life. The Ancient Scythians probably looked like modern day Nordics.
@@Roman-kk1ic Wrong. There was never any Slavic invasion of Sweden or any other part of Scandinavia. Swedes are mostly of haplogroup R1a(Western European) and I2(Nordic). Slavs are primarily R1b. The name "Sweden" comes from the Old Norse Svíþjóð, which was a Germanic tribe still giving name to central Sweden which is called "Svealand", derived from the even older proto-Germanic language meaning "one's own" i.e. short for "one's own tribe".
Schytian didn’t write their history, other civilizations do. Exist to be lagendary
true, just like the turkic people in steppes and mongols, steppe is just like a blackhole, none can actually say exact things about these people, for example; turks surely have a long history in Altai region, but their first evidence of existense is not too old, due to lack of information
In Iran there is written about scythians in shahname book and Biston Tablet
@@viveliran7509 also you guys have Bahestun writings. As a Turk, I can only say that Schytian is a term of a Confederation. Cuz as Darius, there are 3 kinds of Schytians. I wish they have writings or poetry that we known.
@@user-vd5si1rs3d scythian saka khotanese is Iranian language
@MAGNI sakaa is name for scythians which comes from Iranian name ( eskaan ) and their language and name and culture art clothes is Iranian . yes they're same because both Celtic and Iranian are aryan race . lol iran means land of aryans and all today aryans migrated from scythia which it was ariya vij today country of iran or ariyana khashtar .
the comments are funny.
everybody wants to be a Scythian
coyotemojo read about jutes goth jatts from english researchers not that we want to bescythians its true they even tested the dna
yes especially the turkish people. They always think it’s all about them
@MAGNI Scott=Scythe
@@user-uk1th9gj8d oh shut up.. don't link scythians with mixed breed shudras (jatts)
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari9649 they can't be turkic, is impossible
There is Sakazay people in Afghanistan, they are true Scythians, living in historical lands of Sakastan.
The Scythians are an Iranian tribe. Look at the Scythian antiquities. None of them are like the Turks (yellow race).Finish forging the date
The Iranian people are genetically most closely related to the Jews. Especially the Kurds. The Pashtuns and Tajiks are among the lost tribes of Israel. That's why I would be careful with the term ayran.
@@chickennuggets4160 Are you stupid?
Are you talking about Iran today?
That is, the first generation of Iranians are not important?
Today, there is 20 to 30% of the r1a marker among Iranian Persians and up to 50% among Indians. Tajiks own 50 to 60% of the r1a marker.
No one is Jewish. Jews own the j1 marker, but Kurds and Iranians and the Caucasus j2. You are a Turkified Mediterranean people, so do not participate in these discussions. The amount of marker q among you is 1.5%.
@@ariyaariyae353 First of all I am not a Turk and secondly you are right the Anatolian Turks are mostly Slavic, Greek and Armenian but never Persian. You Iranians are all Jewish.
@@ariyaariyae353 Iran today is a multi-ethnic state. Strangely, the European, Caucasian genes are owned by the Azerbaijanis. I've heard it from 30 million of them. Are you sure that you are still an ayran😏
@@chickennuggets4160 If you ask me, am I a pure Aryan?
My answer is no, because many of our ancestors are natives of Iran, just as the Aryans of India mingled with the natives there.
But what is interesting about the population of 40 million Kurds in Anatolia is 20 to 30% r1a and 20% i2 and 30% j2 and the rest of their haplogroups are g, j1, etc. That is, the population of Iran, Caucasus, Kurds are equal.
And they are Aryan and native
the Scythians are an Indo-Iranian people and not Asian in the descriptions of other people and the gold figurines that we find are typically of the European type and not have anything to do with the Turkish Mongolian people or other Asian people
Are the Scythian closely related to the first Indo Europeans as I’m trying to find out what civilisations are closely related to the Porto I do europeans
@@mingellbingell9426 the scythians are a group of indo-iranian tribe yes they have links with europeans at present if you take the example of iranians from iran for the most part they have lost this european aspect to the fact of the invading arab mongol and turk but if there was no crossbreeding they will be blond reddish brown with blue chestnut green eyes ... beware of the Asian propaganda of the Turks and other people related to them who say that the Scythians are Asians it is totally false look at the Parthians come from a Scythian tribe the parni do they have an asian aspect not the ossete which descends from the scythians sarmatian and alans do they have an asian aspect not also
@@skyblue-mq1nb It is written by the Byzantine sources that they call the Turks Scythian.
When presenting the Gokturk Emperor's letter to the Zemarkos Byzantine Emperor, he said:"Today, the nation we call Turk, formerly called SCYTHİAN. This letter was written with the letters SCYTHİAN." (28)
SOURCE = (28) - Edounard Chavannes, Documents sur les Tou-kiue Occidentaux, Paris, sf.235,240,237,238
@@skyblue-mq1nb lan oğlum ne genetik ne antropoloji onaylıyor bunu
Herodotus wrote that the Scythians ( or Saka ) were a heterogeneous group , having different customs and languages ( Minns 1971 )
The Scythians were an Iranian or proto- Turkic steppe nomadic group that inhabited the southern steppes of Russia during the ancient period. They were gradually replaced by other nomadic groups. The Byzantines, however, commonly referred to all nomads regardless of location as Scythians, even during the medieval period.
Timothy May. “The Training of an Inner Asian Nomad Army in the Pre-Modern Period.” The Journal of Military History, vol. 70, no. 3, 2006, pp. 617-635.
Second Theory is True,because Scythians were genetically %0.00 iranian
Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
Unterländer, M., Palstra, F., Lazaridis, I. et al.Ancestry and demography and descendants of Iron Age nomads of the Eurasian Steppe. Nat Commun 8, 14615 (2017).
We observed particularly high similarity between the Tagar and Classic Scythians from the North Pontic region.
In a comparison of our Tagar series with modern populations in Eurasia, we detected similarity between the Tagar group and some modern Turkic-speaking populations (with the exception of the Indo-Iranian Tajik population) (Fig 7; S2 Table). Among the modern Turkic-speaking groups, populations from the western part of the Eurasian steppe belt, such as Bashkirs from the Volga-Ural region and Siberian Tatars from the West Siberian forest-steppe zone, were more similar to the Tagar group than modern Turkic-speaking populations of the Altay-Sayan mountain system (including the Khakassians from the Minusinsk basin) (Fig 7).
Based on our results, we can preliminarily conclude that there was genetic continuity, at least partially, between the Early, the Middle and the Late Tagar populations. We did not find evidence of extensive gene exchange between the Tagar population and any genetically distinct (with respect to the mtDNA pool) human groups.
Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC)
Pilipenko AS, Trapezov RO, Cherdantsev SV, Babenko VN, Nesterova MS, et al. (2018)Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC). PLOS ONE 13(9): e0204062.
Arzhan-2, the archaeological site of world significance, a national treasure of peoples of Tuva and Russia, located in the «Valley of Kings» (Piy-Khemsk District, Tyva Republic), was investigated in 2001-2004 by the Central Asian Archaeological Expedition of the State Hermitage Museum headed by K.V. Chugunov. The sites has been dated to the 7th c. BC and attributed to the Scythian-Siberian cultural community. When exploring the «royal» burial of the early Scythian site of Arzhan-2, the scientists faced the questions of the origin of the buried, periodization and chronology of the monument, its archaeological-cultural attribution, the autochthonous nature of the population that left it, and its relationship with other Eurasian early nomadic cultures. The present study is addressing the most important issue of the appearance of the buried people and characteristics of their anthropological type. The material for the study was comprised of male and female skulls from burial 5 of Arzhan-2 mound. The article describes in detail the process of reconstruction of the physical appearance of the deceased and provides examples of calculating ante mortem parameters based on craniometric measurements. The complex stages of preliminary work related to the restoration of skulls and manufacturing of their exact copies are highlighted. The results of the physical appearance reconstruction are presented in the form of visual museum objects - sculptural portraits. The scientific reconstruction of the ante mortem appearance on skulls of the «king» and «queen» was carried out in the Laboratory of Anthropological Reconstruction of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences by anthropologists Drs E.V. Veselovskaya and R.M. Galeev. In anthropological terms, the buried show a peculiar mosaic of Caucasoid and Mongoloid features. They are characterized by brachycephaly and dome-shaped head, with notably developed rugosity of the supercilium in the man and its absence in the woman. For the man, an average width of the face and a narrow forehead of medium height are noted. The woman has broad face and forehead, the height of the forehead is average. Both portraits are characterized by prominent position of eyeballs and large eyes. Man’s nose is short, prominent, with convex dorsum. Woman’s nose has a wavy dorsum, and is slightly prominent. On the male portrait, the cheekbones are moderate, on the female one - high and prominent. Faces of the «royal» persons are flattened in the upper part, with a certain degree of alveolar prognathism. The lower jaw of the man is medium in size, narrow in the corners. For the woman, some gracility of the lower jaw can be noted.
Veselovskaya, E.V. & Galeev, Ravil. (2020). Anthropological reconstruction of the physical appearance of the «king» and «queen» from the early Scythian burial and memorial complex of Arzhan-2. VESTNIK ARHEOLOGII, ANTROPOLOGII I ETNOGRAFII. 112-122. 10.20874/2071-0437-2020-49-2-10.
@@skyblue-mq1nb lan ne dangalak adamsin, genetik arastirmalar ve analizler yalanmi söylüyor, ben türküm ve dna test sonuclarimda, scythian/iskitte var, mytrueancestry sitesi analizlerine göre..iskitler indo ari, fakat türklere asimile olmus karismis bir toplumdur, iskit diye bir halk yoktur günümüzde, hele hele dag barzosu gundilerle hic alakalari yoktur, sagdan soldan el alemin tarihini calacaginiza kendi esas tarihinizi ögrenin!
It is in KAZAKHSTAN- MASSAGETS, SAKA, NOMAD WORRIORS🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🔥🔥🔥🔥🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿
Kazakhstan= Mongol
We jatts are scythians ... living in north india and panjab pakistan
Gold Scythian Hungary.(Magyarok)❇🌾❇🌌
And Bulgarian .Gold Scityan
The people of Scythia are the inhabitants of ancient Central Asia.
They are the ancient Iranians
And modern Turkic Central Asians, Turkic Russians and Caucasian
Not all Scythians are Iranians, some Scythians picked up Iranian culture after lithe invasion of Persia.
@Griffith Taka Yes, Cyrus II got his head cut off and sent back to Persia in a sack of blood by orders of Scythian princess Tomiris, who's golden armor was found in Talgar kurgan near Almaty. I font think you read my previous comment right, comrade.
@@Roman-kk1ic my friend scythian were part of Arian group people .what are you talking about?persian and median and parthian and scythian were part of same group of people .but median and persian came in iran part and their culture beacuse of the effect of Elamites people and sumerian changed and they get culture and use agriculture .but scythian and some parthian used cow and sheep and they had no any strong culture .they just move around and attack other empires .they were nomadic arian people .also its very clear your knowladge about history very weak .scythian stayed without culture and their life was nomadic and thats why they started to attack the north of part of achamenid empire (persian)and only hirodet says cyrus died on that battle but again persian win that fight and kick the scythian out of their land.only hirodet says about this and lots of people doesnt agree with him too and hirodet himself says i know this from ask soldriers and other people and it coud be other .
@@Roman-kk1ic scythian attack persian beacuse their life style was nomadic and barber .you can check what hirodet says about their life .they live like an animal and kill people very easy .and even they eat the meat of their old people when they become old .this is the hirodet words
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genetically all modern afghan ethnic groups apart from the turkic ethnic groups have the largest scythian descent.infact the language the scythians spoke was eastern iranic,pashto,dari,faris etc all of which are spoken in afghanistan and iran happen to be eastern iranic too.
I hope these Scythians are alright during the war
Hard to watch when he can't pronounce scythian properly.
Skif
I pronounce it like that
He's pronouncing everything wrongly.
He is actually pronouncing it more like the Latin that got it from Greek. So he is closer to the truth than you.
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A lot of people like to claim they where Turkic but pure Turks look Asiatic and look exalt the same as their Mongol cousins. There is a Baloch/Iranic tribe known as the Sarmanistani whose name you can tell clearly has Sarmatian (a Scythian people) origin. There is also a clan among the Pashtun/Iranic Ghilzai tribe known as the Sakazai (which means son of Saka) and the name Saka was used by the Persians to describe the Scythian’s that bordered them. In fact the most closest languages today towards The languages that the Scythian’s spoke is Ossetian,Dari/Persian and Pashto and all of these languages are Iranic.
The Scythian’s also had the haplogroup R1a in them so I don’t know why some people like to claim they where Celts or Germanic when those people have the haplogroup R1B. And yes they are Iranic people who can have red or blonde hair in fact there are Pashtuns,Tajiks,Pamiris,Wakhis and Ossetians who have these features and all these people I just mentioned are of Scythian origin. Turkic people only have R1a in them from mixing with Iranic people and Slavs in fact Turkish people are only 20/30% genetically Turkic and are more related with west Asians and south east Europeans than they are with the Turkic people in Central Asia.
There is no such thing as mongol cousins or altaic peoples🤣🤣
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari9649 stop copy and pasting things from Wikipedia lol it’s not an reliable source and can be easily edited.
I think the average Turk could have partial Scythain roots. The average eastern European is probably part Scythian. Likewise the average Central Asian is also probably part Scythian. Just not pure Scythians.
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari9649 Ghilzais are literally Pashtuns dude. so idk why your crying
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari9649 im r1a type from north india ...from jatt tribe ,we understand we are from the black sea ...
Scythians are a indo europeans peoples
They started as Eastern Iranian nomads then mixed with ancient groups from Siberia (probably Proto Turks and Mongolics)
@Treyden Onit you forgot Yaghnobis who are modern day Sogdians
@Treyden Onit Imma guess you meant west Iranics lol what’s wrong with us?
so is the half of the world!
Primarily in Celto-Germanics and Slavs if you want to find the DNA for Scythians. Also Hungarian
1000th comment!
Great Glory to Scythians from India!😊😊😊
They're not from India!they arrived probably to india
🇹🇲🇰🇿🇰🇬🇺🇿🇭🇺🇦🇿🇹🇷they are turkic
@@Error111 😂😂😂😂
@@abadboy2358 bfi they are Turkic
@@Error111 Lmao no? Why should they be?
Scythians are Western Europe. European people have had there history hidden. Even today there is a constant effort to confuse & mislead about European people as a people. Truth is despite the million names given to European people genetically we are 1 people with a couple exceptions. We are constantly told a certain branch of our people mixed in with another people or simply disappeared lol. But since cro magnon man to today we have had genetic continuity. Truly is amazing
I did a dna test and discovered that my mtdna haplogroup is U2e2. Eupedia says this about the haplogroup:
"U2e : found in most of Europe and Central Asia / found in Mesolithic Germany and Russia, in Chalcolithic Russia, in the Andronovo culture, among the Scythians and in Iron Age Scandinavia and England."
and..
"U2e2: found in the Corded Ware, Unetice and Andronovo cultures, EBA Alsace, and among the Sakas (Iron Age Central Asia) and Sarmatians (Iron Age Russia/Ukraine)"
U2e2 haplogroup is found in Scythian remains.. but that has nothing to do with Scythians? That doesn't make any sense.
@@exucaviera9084 Pinkler's comment makes sense if you consider the implications of what s/he is claiming. The claim is that the haplogroup you mentioned was in existence before the ethnic group Scythians existed therefore other ethnic groups also carry that haplogroup; there are people in Scotland with the U2e2. If your sister lives in New Zealand and has kids then they will carry U2e2. Your genetic heritage doesn't always tally with your ethnic/cultural heritage. Are you descended from Scythians? Possibly, but then other people who look nothing like you and claim non-European heritage may also carry the same haplogroup. BTW, didn't your high school teachers tell you not to rely on information found in 'pedias - try reading some academic books?
you are now in a criminalistic database! jeeeeeeee
I am glad that the historic reenactor at 6:40 at least says that “no one has seen them[Scythianans]” The he mentions “oldest place over 2 billion years old”. Ok I understand love for one’s ancient heritage but to mention knowing that some place is “2 billion years old” is just nonsensical. No one knows that far back plus the earth as a whole was shaped differently. Respect for the people. But nonsense is nonsense. Sometimes it is ok to accept that some things will remain unknown.
Nature didn't even exist 6000 years ago.
BARBATVS 89 eeeeh, you are 6-8 thousand year creationist?
@@StopFear What matters is what can be proven, and the establishment cannot prove its claims which when it comes to dates of over six thousand years of nature existing, are more irrational than the notion that eggs will be decaying at a natural rate while in a washing machine on for a month. They have so many irrational assumptions, yet they call their myth science. Science means knowledge, not wishful thinking.
BARBATVS 89 ok, if you are creationist, fine. But do not even attempt to make up a crazy conspiracy theory about “establishment”, when the same thing has been shown by people in different countries over many decades. Soviet Union, USA, China, plus almost every other country has to be on this secret. Finally, apart from you not knowing, or dismissing evidence, the argument “it cannot be proven what they say, therefore what I believe can be true, therefore I will believe it” is not even an argument. Whatever religious views, or other beliefs you belong to, it cannot be a requirement that you believe the world is anything like 6000 years old. So, what you choose to believe must be based exactly on what a group of people, like a cult if some kind, are telling you. And they are also trying to argue that if you don’t believe young earth creation then you cannot hold other beliefs. That is what malicious cults do. They use people like you and twist the beliefs which could otherwise be within range of acceptable unknown.
@@StopFear I don't need your or anyone else's permission to be a creationist. You speak of conspiracy theories as crazy citing harmony among the establishments of different countries as if masons are not behind every government, which I proved they are in my series with over 3,000 slides: "Proof Satan Rules The World Ergo The Bible is Right." Your argument from incredulity fallacy doesn't cut it, nor even scratch it. You say I reject evidence, but that's a lie since I reject only irrational interpretations of the evidence like your side that doesn't even take alternative interpretations into account like for the scratches on rock walls interpreted by them to be due to glaciers in a past ice age they imagine occurred, when it supports the Great Flood just as well, with it having pushed huge rocks across said walls. Those who say that death preexisted Adam's fall are heretics since they contradict the Bible that says death came by mankind falling.
You just found one! I have ancient Scythian DNA.
Where are you from?
@@omidamin8479 Born in the United Kingdom, now living in North America.
There is no such thing as ancient Scythian DNA...
@@kadensmike8190 I'm carrying some, and Scythians no longer exist as an identifiable ethnicity - just like Guanches, etc.
@@kadensmike8190 No, there is.
The scythians never dissapeared they just mixed with many other tribes and cultures that lived near they addopting a sedentary life so every one who claims to descent from scythians in east europe and Middle Asia is actually right.
I don't believe in Aryan theory but There is a tribe in kerala called thiyya which shows a jentics and linguistics origin in the thian sha mountains of central asia indo sythrians came to cental asia and Indian subcontinent around 2 century BCE according to the linguistics the Iranian word deva is first mentioned in Sanskrit in 2 century BCE and it originated from proto indo European language 'dievo' many proto indo european language has this word with same meening which meens in english as 'shining' or divine this word changes in to thiya in central asia thiyan sha mountains that meens mountains of god/deva and one particular hindhu caste in kerala called thiya meens 'divyan' in native language malayalam wich meens in english shining or divine also practices theyyam/ daivam or god as their religious rituals and their centurys old oral folk storys and songs clearly mentions they came from somewhere else meening of the word thiyya is divine and the first place where genitics and linguistics both meet together is the beginning of the tian Sha mountains and indo-sythrians religion is an ancient greek religion and buddisam mixture and thiyyas shows an almost same mixture with hindhuism and thiyya have a rich marshel treditions in recorded history and their centurys old folk songs and fougrin records from 16th century onwards clearly shows they are the one who practiced and developed kalaripayattu to the world and thiyyar is the only hindhu warrior caste in entire india which formed 3 European colonial army regiments in their own caste name with Britishers they formed thiyya regiment and with french they formed french thiyya pattalam and with dutch they formed dutch chegons the chekars are a warrior section among thiyyas who's duty is to fight in wars and they are ethinically from Malabar north kerala and all this units are started to form in 1730s onwards and all these 3 regiments where started by colonial europen powers and all royal force in kerala before Indian indipendance had thiyya soldiers in their force and in entire south india there is no other hindhu caste ever had a caste based army regiment with any colonial European powers started by the europeans but in north India Britishers started few other warrior caste army regiments and historical records also shows they heavily participated in ayurveda also and latest gentical study from Indian government institutions like center for cellular science and molecular biology in Hyderabad also clearly shows thiyyas have central asian anciant Iranian ancestry and in sre lankan history srilankan people also consider thiya/Divya as indo sythrians and devas even german nazi seintists before Indian indipendance also came this area to study these groups photos are in net but indian government is now trying to eliminate this caste people from history now all their historical records are only getting from outside sources and trying to mix with a south kerala caste called ezhava a native caste which never even allowed to take a sword or never ever participated in a royal army or a war before Indian indipendance according to the recorded history and they blocked all thiyya Wikipedia pages from 2013 and blocked remaining thiyyar pages in 2022 even the smallest caste in india has their own wiki pages thiyyas are the biggest hindhu caste in Malabar kerala and with the support of government they are changing all thiyya warriors as ezhavas and because of thiyyas fougrin origin government also trying to eliminate thiyya community from all records to localise or indianise Indian history even more deeper
They were white and spoke an Indo-European Iranic language; They may have absorbed some Asiatic tribes but theircore were Iranic and white. All their personal names and geographical names were Iranians. This remained so to a large extent when they adopted Turkic and slavic languages.j
Yes the eastern and western Scythians did
But what happened to the royal Scythians
@@wazirakbarkhan.wardag.. I think they Turkified abd became known as Cumans.
They're all doing an algiz runic pose
This is awesome
Is this in association with runic yoga? Doesnt make sense.
Synthians are present in india. The are knowns as jat
No they're Pashtuns!!
@@MrRK0121 Ru crazy
@Prince of Atlantis all pashthuns not Scythians. And all jats are not Scythians
@Prince of Atlantis exactly
@Prince of Atlantis
Pashtuns are most likely descendants of Avestan People who became Zoroastrians unlike Scythians which never did so.
LOL I always cringe at turks trying to claim Scythian heritage..., Scythians are Indo-Iranic/Aryan.
kalle145 and Dardic
GO cry its the truth
And African lol
@hunchoz hunchoz Actually Scythians were African as much as indo-iranian. I mean they were not both. Because they were Eurasian nomads who had Shamanic religion and non-Indo-European language.
@hunchoz hunchoz İ meant they had nothing to do with indo-iranians and Indo-Europeans. And my aim was to tell, claiming them as İndo-iranian be like afro centrists claiming everything.
The Cossacks were Sarmatian not turic lol. The Cossacks held the border from the Golden Horde for the free farmers
Scythians have spreaded out all over the whole Eurasia
Central asia as well
tajiks and yaghnobis are move to the north they became scythians
Caractanic? how do you spell it
Scythians,modern day Newars in Nepal, Nair, Naikker,Naidu in southern India - they all originated from the ancient Indian snake worshipping Naga tribe.
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They are gen from yajuj ma'juj 🔥🔥🔥
This translation is NOT RIGHT!
Maxim Demchenko it’s right
Nowhere east of Tanais which was eastern limit of Scythia.
It is really a shame that there is all this nationalism in this region because this scythians nomadic history is not just Ukrainian.
Scythia part of Ukrainian history, don't be stupid 😉🤣
@@rocketPower111 I'm a South Slav and dna sites show scythians as my ancestors. How do you explain this than if Ukraine doesnt have anything to do with Scythians ?
@@whatever2206 protoSlavs from Ukraine, was part of Royal Scythia ( Great Scythia), it's mean Scythian, like a Sarmatian and protoSlavs was ancestors Ukrainian people, and it's Ukrainian history 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
If you have Scythian dna it's OK
Scythian Tribal empire ( Aspa dynasty= Horse dynasty) was founded by Oghurus or ,Khorus or Cyrus the great Oghur Khan .
White Huns Aka Hephthalites became Abdaliites after converting to islam, are Sakazai or Askhuzai or Sajezai( Scythians) , . Kpk and Afghanistan's name was Sajestan or Sakastan . All Turkic tribes are descendants of Saka , Saka name changed to Ghurizai after Oghur khan. Also called Oghuz tribes .
White Hun Abdali Pashtuns
Black khan Kara oghuz known as Kyrghyz
Uzbek is as Oghuz beg
Oghur or Oyghur
Ghuri Ghur Afghanistan
Ghurmen ( German tribes )
Hungary Khan Ghuri Budapest Buda Pesht
Sarmatian , Afghan Zarmatian Khilji tribe ,
Bulgar Bul Ghur
Mongol Moghul Mo Ghur
They are not scythians they are Slavs and germanic
Have nothing to do with caucasian iranic and Indo aryans
@anthony k ok fine but there's more DNA from older sources
So what's the point it's only siberia and china there's other architectures too
@@bagadarasha4662 all indo European males have r1 y haplgroup that it why they are called indo European
tajiks and yaghnobis are move to the north they became scythians
R1a 🇵🇱
Where now it is possible to find Scythian? In Rome Total War??? 😂😂😂
Jatt race people in Punjab States of India and Pakistan is assumed to be Scythian.
No they are not
That's not 100% true.
I know a research paper that can tell more truth about this.
@@papazataklaattiranimam Like I said. Its not 100% true. You are simplifying and is more complicated than that. Sure, there is some foreign influence but the whole stock is Scythian is not true. Its also common sense if you think. Also, its not just Jats who have exclusively inherited the possibly Scythian influence. Many other so called communities could have too.
@@papazataklaattiranimam This is perhaps the most credible paper I can tell you is out there - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5611447/.
I quote the paper- "The study demonstrated that based on their genetic makeup, the Jats belonged to at least nine specific haplogroups, with nine different lines of ancestry and geographic origins. About 90% of the Jats in our sample belonged to only four different lines of ancestry and geographic origins.
Therefore, attributing the origins of this entire ethnic group to loosely defined ancient populations such as, Indo-Aryans or Indo-Scythians represents very broad generalities and cannot be supported.
The study also revealed that even with their different languages, religions, nationalities, customs, cuisines, and physical differences, the Jats shared their haplogroups with several other ethnic groups of the Indian subcontinent, and had the same common ancestors and geographic origins in the distant past."
@@papazataklaattiranimam There is some foreign influence for sure among Jats just like many other communities of Northern India and Pakistan. Some of other ones can be Rajputs, Arains, Gujjars, Butt etc. Its very difficult to say whose ancestors could be Indo-Scythian, Indo-Parthian, Indo-Greek, Huns, Kushans etc. Over all, I would say its complicated to give a simplified final verdict. One thing is though for sure, the more you enter from Central Asia (which was the homeland to many of these tribes) towards North-western India, Pakistan the local communities mixed in foreign influence. Its easy to understand. Often when warrior plunderers arrive, they don't arrive with their women. They marry the local women. This could also explain to you the strong patriarchal culture in the farmer communities of North India, Pak. Simultaneously, this also explains the earlier 'denigrated' status of such communities in India/Pak because the older 'Vedic' people did not validated them to be pure enough and said that they have mixed with foreigners.
If you ask me who could be more likely for 'purer' Scythian, Parthian or Greek ancestral lineage, then it could be the tribes of Afghanistan, especially Pashtuns and Tajiks.
This is the best to my knowledge so far. Hope, I could share some information that you might find useful.
Go to Sistan,Iran
AFGHANISTAN, Western Pakistan
Alot of Schythians u will meet.
I am a Jat from India, a descendant of Indo Scythians.
You're gaw mutra not scythians😁
Scytain are eastern iranain nomadics and jat are Indo Aryan read some history bro
I am Magyar and i always woundering about my ancestors... its hard when u think u know but u dont... 🐎
Very Indo-European ☸️
I know how EXACTLY they looked like, i’m from West Kazakhstan
I'm jat (indo-Scythian)
"The Hungarians/Magyars are the European Scythians. Scythian-Medes-Parthian-Hun-Avar-Magyar are all ONE PEOPLE belongs to one race! And to this family belongs much more people around the world
( Kazakhs, Uyghurs, Basks, Kurds and much more).
The names of the Hungarians/Magyars by historians, philosophers, politicians and, and etc.
:
- Antonio Bonfini 15cent. - Scythians (..with the exception of Hungarians/Magyars from within Scythia who cannot deny that they are the Scythians most of all because they speak all their language ...)
- Primate Abbot of Regino in Chronicon 889 - Royal Scythians (and also names Hungarians as the oldest people)
- Nicolas Mysticos 852-925 - Royal Scythians
- Vita Athonitae 960 - Scythians
- Modus Ottinc verse en app. 1000 - Parthians
- Annales Sangallenses Maiores 10-11 century (Saint Gallen yearbook) - agarens (agarens) to 925 and 955 agarens used (agareno, hagarenoi, magarenoi) to the old farmers etc.
- Anonymus 11 - Scythians (Gens itaque Hungarorum fortissima at bellorum laboribus potentissima, ut superius diximus, de gente Scythica, ...)
- II. Sylvester pope in the 10-11. cent. - Skythians
- VI.Leo Papa 9-10 cent.- Scythian [he calls the Hungarians and Bulgarians Scythian]
- Eustathius of Thessalonica 12 cent. - Scythians
- Anna Komnene (1083-1153) - Dacians [call the Hungarian army Dacians]
- Godfrey of Viterbo 12 cent.. - Scythians (Sikambria is called Scythian and Vetus Hungaria and -Regi Hungaria)
- Chronicon Bergomense 14 cent. - Scythian (Hungari, qui et Hunni, gens Scythica)
- Coccius Sabellicus 15 cent. - Scythians (Nemini dubium sit Unnos, sive Ungaros Schytas esse)
- Nuremberg Chronicle 15 cent. - Scythians
- II. Pope Pius 15 cent. - Scythians (Hungaros ab Hunnis, hos a Leucis sive Albanis, Scytharum progenie, ortos)
- Antonio Bonfini 15cent. - Scythians (..with the exception of Hungarians/Magyars from within Scythia who cannot deny that they are the Scythians most of all because they speak all their language ...)
- János Erdősi Sylvester 1539 - Scythian (calls the Hungarian language Scythian) - [Ita Scythae (idest Hungari) Nostri]
- Djuro Sremac Priest 16 cent. - Scythian
- Ortelius geographer 16cent. (in the Theatrum Orbis Terrarum) - Scythian (speak Scythian) - [The inhabitants of Hungary speak the Scythian language ..)
- Rudolf Bzenszky Jesuit 17 cent. - Scythians
- Johann Jakob Hoffman 17 cent. (in the Lexicon Universale) - Scythians [..in Pannoniam receperunt, variis cladibus, post Attilae inprimis mortem, exerciti, tandem ab Ugris, Scythica gente, sub Carolo Crasso pulsi]
- Annales Mettenses in 889 - Royal Scythians [Gens Hungarorum ferocissima, & omni bellua crudelitor, retro ante saeculis ideo inaudita, quia nec nominata, Scythicis regnis, & paludibus, quas Tanais ...]
- Johann Adlzreiter 1662 (a Boicae Gentis Annalium-ban) - szkíta [ Rursus,Ungari Scytharum more...]
- V. Orban Popa and XI. Gregory Pope 14 cent -Scythians
- Leo the Diacon 10 cent. - Scythians
- English King Alfred the Great 9 cent. - Bastarnacs [Scythian people -Dio Cassius, according to Zosimus, others according to Germanic people -between BC 200 and 200 AD] [When Lepidus and Mucius were consul, which was then called Bastarnae and is now called Hungarian, would wage war on the Romans; ...]
- Menyhért Inchofer 1584-1648, in the Historia Sacrae Latinitatis 1635 - Scythians [Ceterum quod ipse de suis Polonis vere affirmat, commune etiam esse cum Hungaris, Scythica quondam progenie, norunt nationum experientes, ....]
- Petrus Ranzanus 1428-1492 - Scythians [..., alterum in Pannonias Scytharum, qui Hungari appellati sunt, ...]
- Hyeronimus Balbus, poet 1450-1535, De legibus Hungariae 1517. - Scythians [Inclyta, quae Scythicis gens prodiit Hungara terris, Nil nili sanguinei Martis amabit opus, Clara quidem bello, partisque decora Triumphis,…]
- Andronicus Tranquillus Parthenius 1515. - Scythians [The postremis Scytharum Hungaris Pannonia inferior intra,…] Mutinensis urbis descriptio, sive Additamentum ad Sancti Geminiani episcopi Mutinensis 910. - Scythians [Ungarorum saevissimam & paeneamnendumend comperimus ...]
- Thomas Lansius 1577-1657 in the Consultatio de principatu inter provincias Europae 1613 - Scythians [Scythicae vero hujus & barbarae originis apud Hungaris clarissima etiamnum…]
- In the charter of 1095, the origin of the Estoras family is taken from the Scythians - “Eursus Dux fuit filius Ducis Essed, qui fuit Eudmedzur, qui Ernaci ducis, fratris Vegeci, qui Edi, qui Chabae regis, qui magni… Atilae, qui Bendeguz Scythiae imperia , qui Stemene, qui tandem magni Scytharum emperor Opos filius fuit '
- Robertus Belus (Robert Beale) 1541-1601, of the Rerum hispanicarum scriptores aliquot 1579, written by Rodrigo Sánchez de Arévalo (15th century) - Scythians [Nam Albertus Magnus eos fore Hugnos asserit, quos hodie Panones vel Ungaros appellamus . Pompinius Mela generalius loques, Hugnos originem ex Scythia sumpsisse contendit,…] - it appears that in the 15th century the name hugnos was used for the Hungarians.
- George Kodinos 14 cent. - [Hungaricis Gepidis]
- Michael Attaleiates (Attaliates) 11 cent. - Sarmatians
- Pomponius Sabinus 15 cent. - Scythians [Prope glacialis Oceanic oras habitant silvestres homines Ugari, sive Ugri. Scythae quidem sunt, eta ceteris mortalibus remoti, apud eos neque aurum, neque argentum cognoscitur, neque aes;]
- Giacomo Filippo Foresti 1434-1520, Supplementum chronicarum 1483 - Scythians
- Michael the Rhetor Bellator 1155. - Gepids
- Annales Monasterii Cremifanensis In Austria Superiore 1677. - Scythians [Hungarorum arma prima audita. Ea gens origine Scythica, Hunnorum soboles,…]
- In the lawsuit of the Noszlop tribe, the text is 1425. - Scythians [Ex quo etiam praefati Elias et Gregorius de dicta Nostal hanc cum monte Somilo ab ingressu Scytharum Duce Arpad,…]
- The inscription at the University Church in Trnava from 1700 - Scythians [Hoc sub lapide pretium seculorum et melior Hungariae thesaurus est absconditus, postquam gloriosissima sanguine, quia regum S. Ladislai, Ludovici I, Sigismund Imperatoris innexa sanguini, celebratissima antiquitate in magno Scytharum principe Opos, in Eurso Hunnorum Duce ac tot aliis dominata celsissima et illustris Familia Estoras locum hunc delegit sepulchralem.]
- A Prospect of Hungary and Transylvania 1664. - Scythians
- Johannes Nauclerus 1425-1510, in the Chronicon 1564 - Scythians [Logobardi, Gothi, Hungari ex Scythia emersere.]
- John Barclay 1582-1621, in Euphormionis lusinini satyricon - Scythians (he calls István Bocskai a Scythian)
- Ludovicus Tubero 1459-1527 - Scythians [… inculto illo dicendi modo et a scytharum more, quibus Hungari originem ducunt,…]
- Edo Neuhusius 1581-1638, in Theatrum ingenii humani 1648 - Scythians [Hungari ad Septentrionem Illyricos attingunt, Hunnorum Scytharum sobolos; quorum adhuc in Equestri militia impetum,…]
- Angelo Rocca 1545-1620, in the Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana 1591 - Scythians [Germani interdum, Armeni, Hungari, Tartari, & alij item Populi Scythae dicuntur.]
- General László Fodor Hungarian rebel 1700 - Hungarian Scythians [Named himself Generalis Scytharum Hungarorum]
- György Szerémi 1490-1550 - the Hungarians were Scythians
- Osvát Laskai 1450-1511, in Quadragesimale Gemma fidei 1507 - Hungarians Scythians [Ipsum siquidem ut dominatrix ceterarum omnium gens inclyta incolit hunorum nunc vulgariter hungarica vocitata fide praeclara magnanimis robusta, parit numositate merito & dignitate omnium praecellens nationum cis Regnum copiam]
- Robert Morden (1650-1703) in Geography Rectified… 1693 - the Szeklers Scythians, descended from the Scythians, who are nobles, or Rusticks, but all of them of one rank. ]
- Ciro Spontone (1552-1610) in the Historia della Transilvania 1638 - the Szeklers and Hungarians Scythians [Li Siculi, come gli Ungheri, riferiscono l'origine loro a quei Sciti indomiti ...
- Stanislaw Lubieniecki (1623-1675) in the Historia Vniversalis Omnium Cometarum in 1681 - the Hungarians Scythians
"
And much more, it could be infinitely numbered.
Emelem kalapom, szép forrásgyűjtemény!
Jats are also closely connected with Scythians.
Basically, they are Indo-Scythian.They are found in India(Punjab/Haryana/Western UP/Rajasthan) and in some parts of Pakistan also.
No, only the Ossetians of present-day Russia are the true descendants of the Scythians, since their language is directly descended from the Scythian language.
@@malgusvitiate7002 Slavs (more specifically, Ukrainians) are actually the descendants of Scythians, too - we'd probably have an Iranic language, too, were it not for the Baltic influence (which mixed with the Iranian languages and produced the Slavic language group), which the Ossetians did not have.
@@avenger4027 So that makes Slavs descendents of Aryan Iranians since Scythians were an Iranian tribe
@@Syed________6686 Well, yes.
@@naturbursche5540 Skythian are an Iranian tribe even their language was Iranian and they were an Aryan tribe do a bit of research on their haplogroups
Everyone wants to be Scythian, huh?)) Everyone makes up history to somehow be descendant of Scythian. Where most Scythian burials are found& That is where Scythian descendants live. These stories about people disappearing from one place and appearing in another place are lame even for quantum physicists. But Scythian culture influenced many other cultures around the world from Asia to Europe.
Everybody here is indian or middle easterner and everybody is clamining being scythian, wtf is going on
Scynthians live in india
Hungary !
Yes,
Czech and Hungarian are descendants of Scythians.
also, but not as much: Austrians, Slovenians, Croatians, and East Germans
@@Kana_108_ Um all South Slavs basically get scythian mostly
they are trying to say they were somehow not white people from the yamaya culture now a days such a shame
RUclips. That is the land of the fabled Scythians.
You can find them in Afghanistan called Pashtuns fighting American occupiers.
that can't be right
It is
They r not in afghanistan... This tribe is in Gilgit pakistan wherr they r known as schins or shins
Nah ur indian
@@TheAfghan72 am not indian..
They are the Pashtuns :). The Saka blood still lives in us....
It is written by the Byzantine sources that they call the Turks Scythian.
When presenting the Gokturk Emperor's letter to the Zemarkos Byzantine Emperor, he said:"Today, the nation we call Turk, formerly called SCYTHİAN. This letter was written with the letters SCYTHİAN." (28)
SOURCE = (28) - Edounard Chavannes, Documents sur les Tou-kiue Occidentaux, Paris, sf.235,240,237,238
No Pathan have great history than synthian.pashtuns are way older than these angreej
@@harshsd7928
pashtuns are a nation that is only 900 years old.Stop propaganda !
@Per FOX
The first pashtun state in history is the hotaki state.there was no pashtun state before.this is actually the best answer to be given.
@Per FOX
Alexander has no such words, and these are just classic afghan propaganda.Alexander conquered all of Afghanistan.Also, Alexander's wife was not afghan but only of Iranian descent.I don't understand why you're working propaganda.
Which is the biggest eastern-Iranian tribe in the world today who still speak the eastern-Iranian language? Check out the Indo-Iranian Languages tree. They are the Pashtuns (a.k.a. Pathans or Afghans) who live in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region and speak the eastern-Iranian language Pashto. Guys, Pashtuns just defeated the world's superpower. Pashtuns are the real Scythians. The rest of you talking Bull!.
I have to agree. Sad how everyone wants to be one
when they dont even know what language they spoke
www.ucg.ca/booklets/throne-britain-its-biblical-origin-and-future/appendix-13-nobility-also-jewish
The Jutes
Collins sees a connection between the Jats and the Jutes of Europe (p. 343), and one may well exist-particularly when we realize that a Norse equivalent for the Scythian names Geat or Goth was Jat (see the Edda genealogy in Appendix 10: "The Family of Odin"). But who were the Jutes? They were a tribe of people who gave their name to Jutland, the mainland peninsula of Denmark.
Furthermore, though we often think of the Angles and Saxons who settled in Britain and became the English, it is more correct to say that Britain was invaded in the fifth through seventh centuries by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes: "Most of the country was conquered by these Teutons, of whom the principle tribes were the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, who finally fused into one people, under the name of Anglo-Saxons, or Angles or English, while that portion of Britain in which they made their home was called England" (Gene Gurney, Kingdoms of Europe: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs from Ancient Times to the Present , 1982, p. 129).
In fact, the Jutes actually arrived first! "The first of these Teutonic kingdoms was founded in Kent. A despairing British chieftain or king, Vortigern . . . to save his people from their northern foes . . . invited the Teutons to come to his aid. Two well-known Jutish Vikings, Hengist and Horsa, accepted the invitation with their followers, and in the year 449 landed on the island of Thanet, the southeastern extremity of the England . . . Eric, a son of Hengist, was, in 457, formally crowned king of Kent, that is, of England's southeastern coast. He was the first of her Teutonic kings" (p. 129).
Now the critical question: Could the name Jute-and perhaps Jat-be related to Judah? Notice the following from a linguistics textbook: "The German linguist Jakob Grimm (of fairy-tale fame) . . . published a four-volume treatise (1819-1822) that specified the regular sound correspondences among Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, and the Germanic languages. It was not only the similarities that intrigued Grimm and other linguists, but the systematic nature of the differences . . . Grimm pointed out that certain phonological changes that did not take place in Sanskrit, Greek, or Latin must have occurred early in the history of the Germanic languages. Because the changes were so strikingly regular, they became known as ‘Grimm's Law' . . . [one example of which is] d->t . . . voiced stops become voiceless" (Victoria Fromkin and Robert Rodman, An Introduction to Language, Fourth Edition , 1988, p. 315).
Thus, the people who were later known as the Juten or Yuten (as J is pronounced Y in German and Scandinavian languages) would originally have been known as the Juden or Yuden . With the Hebrew plural this would be Judim or Yudim - J'hudim or Y'hudim being the actual Hebrew for Jews. Indeed, Juden is the German word for Jews.
Hengist and Horsa, then, were leaders of Jutes who were likely Jews. As this Jutish population expanded in southern England, it took over more and more land-the Jutes thus becoming nobles. Indeed, their early arrival ensured that they were the longest established noble families of the Anglo-Saxon population. Furthermore, Hengist and Horsa are traced in descent from Woden or Odin, making them royal descendants of Zerah and perhaps even David (see Appendix 10: "The Family of Odin" and 11: "Joseph of Arimathea and the Line of Nathan" ). The same is true of the kings of the Angles and Saxons who soon followed.
In the 800s, Danish Vikings took over the western half of England before the Anglo-Saxons repelled them. And the Danes later ruled England from 1013-1042 before it came back under Saxon sovereignty. In both instances, Danish nobility was mixed with the local Anglo-Saxon nobility. But consider that the Danish rulers were descendants from Odin-and the Danes themselves came from Jutland, thus likely ensuring that many of their nobles were of Jutish (and therefore probably Jewish) descent. This would be parallel with Ireland, where the common people were the tribe of Dan but the nobility were the Milesian Scots, who were Jews. In Denmark, the common people were again the tribe of Dan but the nobility were in all likelihood Jutes who were, yet again, Jews.
As turks for me they are Iranian people that immigrated there before gettin destroyed by the turkic tribe and the creation of the huns its seem more logic and can explain why no more Iranian are left in steppe execpt the oessetian
@slesh snake Iranian mean the Iranic people Persian are in the Iranic branch not semetic
You are not a Dumb
You have the Ability to Accept
I appreciate you.
Greetings and love from an afghan (Pashtun)
@@yousafdaudzai3078 i always prefer the truth then lies also good luck in Afghanistan with the taliban i hope ur living safely there
Nelson et al. 2020 links the proto-Turkic language and the proto-Turkic people to the Hongshan culture in Northeast China around the Liao river 4500BC from where they migrated to the SSM region (southern Siberia and Mongolia). Li et al. 2020 came to the same conclusion and their results are supported by previous studies of Yunusbayev et al. 2015, Damgaard et al. 2018 and Robbets et al. 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 respectively. The genetic evidence suggests that the Turkification of Central Asia was carried out by East Asian dominant minorities migrating out of Mongolia.
They are found along Indus river.
Pashtuns
sindian is jatt tribe😂😂❤❤ jaato ka jalva her terf h
Beautiful Ukrainian History-- Scythian🇺🇦
🇺🇦🇷🇺🇰🇿🇦🇫🇮🇳
@@mtsilva479 it's not russian history for sure😉
@slesh snake Ukrainian it's the same with Cossacks,
Hungarian- it's Finno- Ugric
Scythian not actually turks
@@rocketPower111 Scythian DNA... The Iron Age Scythians are arrayed along a cline from Yamnaya to Ami (a population of East Asian ancestry that experienced no admixture), consistent with having ancestry from populations genetically similar to these two groups.
Not a single ancient sample from Central Asian Scythians clustered with Europeans. All ancient samples were in a cline between West-Eurasians and East-Eurasians, with increasing East-Eurasian ancestry at the end of the Scythian period. Scythian samples in Europe were largely European thought.
@Ex Christian khus lol....Scythian one of Ukrainian ancestors 🇺🇦
Gog and magog
@чукча казах раб Джунгарович Scythians and Kazhars both were Turkic tribes. Which makes them gog and magog
@@Q2k7 whattttt??? why they spoke a iranic language and the had a iranic_europen????😂😂 who said to you they wrer turkic bro?
tajiks and yaghnobis are move to the north they became scythians
The Jats are the largest branch of the Scythian Masagatae. Which is the largest and majority population of Pakistan and India
100%Bulgarian=Gold Scytian.Real and true fakt.Only monoment in Europe Hevycavalery Scytian horsmen Rock Madara monoment.And fakt Bulgaria hevycavalery hegemon in europe 5 century.Evry speek is 1001 night strory and Blablabala
They talked about the Scythians for a time than they switched to cossacks and the other clan.
The conclusion at the end didn’t even mentioned the Scythians
According to my true ancestry i am very scythian
What results did you get ?
@@Alakhana Scythian, Lombard, Ostrogoth, Viking, Visigoth, Frank...
How did you find this out?
Aquarium..tiger barb nose dance means too much nitrate. Needs more plants and water movement. Maybe a small water change
Tatars are descendants of the Scythians.
In part yes
Another study by the same team, again of mtDNA from two Scytho-Siberian skeletons found in the Altai Republic, showed that they had been typical males "of mixed Euro-Mongoloid origin". One of the individuals was found to carry the F2a maternal lineage, and the other the D lineage, both of which are characteristic of East Eurasian populations.[114]
Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Saka, even those far to the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly "Europid" features, although mixed 'Euro-mongoloid" phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.[118]
The Sakas were a group of Iranic peoples who spoke a language belonging to the Iranian branch of the Indo-European languages. French historian René Grousset wrote that they formed a particular branch of the "Scytho-Sarmatian family" originating from nomadic Iranian peoples of the northwestern steppe in Eurasia. Like the Scythians of the Pontic Steppe, to whom they were related, the Saka were racially Europoid and ultimately traced their origin to the Andronovo culture. The Pazyryk burials of the Pazyryk culture in the Ukok Plateau in the 4th and 3rd centuries BC are thought to be of Saka chieftains.
They wasn't Turkic and Turkic people weren't Eurasian.
Nelson et al. 2020 links the proto-Turkic language and the proto-Turkic people to the Hongshan culture in Northeast China around the Liao river 4500BC from where they migrated to the SSM region (southern Siberia and Mongolia). Li et al. 2020 came to the same conclusion and their results are supported by previous studies of Yunusbayev et al. 2015, Damgaard et al. 2018 and Robbets et al. 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 respectively. The genetic evidence suggests that the Turkification of Central Asia was carried out by East Asian dominant minorities migrating out of Mongolia.
@@suyuntoktosun Was the Hongshan culture the ancestor of the Turks? Never ever ever. This racist and unscientific hypothesis, invented by several European historians, is based on the Altaic language theory. However, since the Altaic language theory is not accepted by almost any scientist today, I laugh at those who defend this hypothesis :-)
Distance to: CHN_Yellow_River_MN
0.02482865 Qiang_Danba
0.03006561 Han_Shanxi
0.03374384 Han_Henan
0.03502395 Han_Shandong
0.03632857 Tibetan_Xinlong
0.03940730 Tibetan_Yajiang
0.04121971 Naxi
0.04238442 Tibetan_Yunnan
0.04247719 Qiang_Daofu
0.04328894 Yugur
0.04506000 Korean
0.04590029 Naga
0.04798195 Yi
0.04938523 Tibetan_Chamdo
0.05099076 Han_Jiangsu
0.05186866 Nyishi
0.05350078 Tibetan_Nagqu
0.05361175 Tu
0.05363411 Han_Shanghai
0.05707603 Tibetan_Lhasa
Distance to: CHN_Yellow_River_LN
0.01972074 Han_Shandong
0.02095711 Han_Henan
0.02373198 Han_Shanxi
0.02805565 Han_Jiangsu
0.03422704 Han_Shanghai
0.03553201 Tibetan_Xinlong
0.03621028 Han_Zhejiang
0.03675140 Qiang_Danba
0.03729584 Korean
0.04343545 Naxi
0.04643241 Han_Sichuan
0.04772277 Yi
0.04772448 Yugur
0.04797378 Han_Hubei
0.05547853 Tujia
0.05689642 Tibetan_Yunnan
0.05704829 Tibetan_Yajiang
0.05863696 Han_Chongqing
0.06013805 Han_Fujian
0.06258460 Naga
Target: CHN_Western_Liao_River_MN
Distance: 2.1190% / 0.02118993
44.2 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
42.8 Amur_Basin_Hunter-Gatherer_RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
13.0 Tibetan_Plateau_Late_Neolithic_NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP
Target: CHN_Western_Liao_River_LN
Distance: 4.1061% / 0.04106067
75.8 North_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Boshan_N
15.4 Tibetan_Plateau_Late_Neolithic_NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP
8.8 South_China_Neolithic_Farmer_CHN_Liangdao2_N
As you can see, Hongshan culture has nothing to do with the Turks, even remotely. Unquestioningly believing in an unprovable hypothesis is only a manifestation of racism and stupidity. Anti-Turkist societies may believe this fictitious hypothesis, but the really smart person believes in science, not fallacy..
Source for Hongshan genetics: Ning, C., Li, T., Wang, K. et al. Ancient genomes from northern China suggest links between subsistence changes and human migration.Nat Commun 11, 2700 (2020).
According to linguistic, genetic and historical documents (mainly Chinese sources), the homeland of the Turks is undoubtedly the Altai Mountains, and today this is generally accepted.
Target: MNG_Khovsgol_BA
Distance: 1.7730% / 0.01773049
71.2 Neolithic_North_Mongolia
22.0 Botai_Culture
4.2 Afanasievo
2.6 Hongshan
As can be seen, Khovsgol, one of the oldest Turkic burial settlements, has only 2.6% hongshan genetics.
Here is thw Proto-Turkic genes from Mongolia
Distance to: MNG_Altai_MLBA
0.04857374 Tatar_Siberian
0.06176397 Tubalar
0.07124611 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.07259206 Nogai
0.07393226 Bashkir
Distance to: MNG_BA
0.05173081 Mogush
0.05438620 Khakass_Kachins
0.05813751 Tuvinian
0.06117424 Altaian
0.07379720 Buryat
Distance to: MNG_KHI001
0.04599102 Tubalar
0.05992500 Shor
0.06089088 Shor_Mountain
0.06703775 Shor_Khakassia
0.06996103 Karakalpak
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 Some east Asian scientists back that as well as some Turkic scientists. So seems like you are the Racist.
@@olumluhayatbugunvarsinyari1326 The Altaic language family is a lie of East Asian supremacy
@@suyuntoktosunI'm u4d3 mtdna mother
They found woman nw China also u4d3 4600 years old and 150 km north in modern Russia similar age and,also u4d3
Weren’t Scythians blond...?
They were eastern iranic people
Iranic does not mean from MODERN IRAN
Iranic people were caucasiod ppls..tribes nomadic ppls. Who lived all over CENTRAL ASIA
@@SherKhan-rd9uw It is written by the Byzantine sources that they call the Turks Scythian.
When presenting the Gokturk Emperor's letter to the Zemarkos Byzantine Emperor, he said:"Today, the nation we call Turk, formerly called SCYTHİAN. This letter was written with the letters SCYTHİAN." (28)
SOURCE = (28) - Edounard Chavannes, Documents sur les Tou-kiue Occidentaux, Paris, sf.235,240,237,238
tajiks and yaghnobis are move to the north they became scythians, many blond in pamir and yaghnobis
Mostly not
@@SherKhan-rd9uw they were neither iranic nor iranian
Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
Unterländer, M., Palstra, F., Lazaridis, I. et al.Ancestry and demography and descendants of Iron Age nomads of the Eurasian Steppe. Nat Commun 8, 14615 (2017).
We observed particularly high similarity between the Tagar and Classic Scythians from the North Pontic region.
In a comparison of our Tagar series with modern populations in Eurasia, we detected similarity between the Tagar group and some modern Turkic-speaking populations (with the exception of the Indo-Iranian Tajik population) (Fig 7; S2 Table). Among the modern Turkic-speaking groups, populations from the western part of the Eurasian steppe belt, such as Bashkirs from the Volga-Ural region and Siberian Tatars from the West Siberian forest-steppe zone, were more similar to the Tagar group than modern Turkic-speaking populations of the Altay-Sayan mountain system (including the Khakassians from the Minusinsk basin) (Fig 7).
Based on our results, we can preliminarily conclude that there was genetic continuity, at least partially, between the Early, the Middle and the Late Tagar populations. We did not find evidence of extensive gene exchange between the Tagar population and any genetically distinct (with respect to the mtDNA pool) human groups.
Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC)
Pilipenko AS, Trapezov RO, Cherdantsev SV, Babenko VN, Nesterova MS, et al. (2018)Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC). PLOS ONE 13(9): e0204062.
Arzhan-2, the archaeological site of world significance, a national treasure of peoples of Tuva and Russia, located in the «Valley of Kings» (Piy-Khemsk District, Tyva Republic), was investigated in 2001-2004 by the Central Asian Archaeological Expedition of the State Hermitage Museum headed by K.V. Chugunov. The sites has been dated to the 7th c. BC and attributed to the Scythian-Siberian cultural community. When exploring the «royal» burial of the early Scythian site of Arzhan-2, the scientists faced the questions of the origin of the buried, periodization and chronology of the monument, its archaeological-cultural attribution, the autochthonous nature of the population that left it, and its relationship with other Eurasian early nomadic cultures. The present study is addressing the most important issue of the appearance of the buried people and characteristics of their anthropological type. The material for the study was comprised of male and female skulls from burial 5 of Arzhan-2 mound. The article describes in detail the process of reconstruction of the physical appearance of the deceased and provides examples of calculating ante mortem parameters based on craniometric measurements. The complex stages of preliminary work related to the restoration of skulls and manufacturing of their exact copies are highlighted. The results of the physical appearance reconstruction are presented in the form of visual museum objects - sculptural portraits. The scientific reconstruction of the ante mortem appearance on skulls of the «king» and «queen» was carried out in the Laboratory of Anthropological Reconstruction of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences by anthropologists Drs E.V. Veselovskaya and R.M. Galeev. In anthropological terms, the buried show a peculiar mosaic of Caucasoid and Mongoloid features. They are characterized by brachycephaly and dome-shaped head, with notably developed rugosity of the supercilium in the man and its absence in the woman. For the man, an average width of the face and a narrow forehead of medium height are noted. The woman has broad face and forehead, the height of the forehead is average. Both portraits are characterized by prominent position of eyeballs and large eyes. Man’s nose is short, prominent, with convex dorsum. Woman’s nose has a wavy dorsum, and is slightly prominent. On the male portrait, the cheekbones are moderate, on the female one - high and prominent. Faces of the «royal» persons are flattened in the upper part, with a certain degree of alveolar prognathism. The lower jaw of the man is medium in size, narrow in the corners. For the woman, some gracility of the lower jaw can be noted.
Veselovskaya, E.V. & Galeev, Ravil. (2020). Anthropological reconstruction of the physical appearance of the «king» and «queen» from the early Scythian burial and memorial complex of Arzhan-2. VESTNIK ARHEOLOGII, ANTROPOLOGII I ETNOGRAFII. 112-122. 10.20874/2071-0437-2020-49-2-10.
Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Saka, even those far to the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly "Europid" features, although mixed 'Euro-mongoloid" phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.
Сергей Иванович Руденко (Sergei I. Rudenko) (1970). Frozen Tombs of Siberia: The Pazyryk Burials of Iron Age Horsemen. University of California Press. pp. 45-46. ISBN 978-0-520-01395-7. Archived from the original on 2017-03-27. Retrieved 2016-09-25.
The Scythians feature in the treatise as an evocative umbrella for Russia’s Turkic neighbours, one of the Asiatic hordes against which the now self-avowedly Western empire struggled to carry out its civilizing mission.
Meyer, C. (2020). From Scythian Ethnography to Aryan Christianity: Herodotean Revolutions on the Eve of the Russian Revolution. In T. Harrison & J. Skinner (Eds.), Herodotus in the Long Nineteenth Century (pp. 200-223). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781108562805.009
Another study by the same team, again of mtDNA from two Scytho-Siberian skeletons found in the Altai Republic, showed that they had been typical males "of mixed Euro-Mongoloid origin". One of the individuals was found to carry the F2a maternal lineage, and the other the D lineage, both of which are characteristic of East Eurasian populations.
I have a asiatic blood type b I look like a middle eastern, with a irish mother and croatian father ? I know croats have sarmatian ancestry but ?
The Scythians were the precursor to the warriors who came later like the Huns and the Turks. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
Herodotus wrote that the Scythians ( or Saka ) were a heterogeneous group , having different customs and languages ( Minns 1971 )
The Scythians were an Iranian or proto- Turkic steppe nomadic group that inhabited the southern steppes of Russia during the ancient period. They were gradually replaced by other nomadic groups. The Byzantines, however, commonly referred to all nomads regardless of location as Scythians, even during the medieval period.
Timothy May. “The Training of an Inner Asian Nomad Army in the Pre-Modern Period.” The Journal of Military History, vol. 70, no. 3, 2006, pp. 617-635.
Second Theory is True,because Scythians were genetically %0.00 iranian
Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).
Unterländer, M., Palstra, F., Lazaridis, I. et al.Ancestry and demography and descendants of Iron Age nomads of the Eurasian Steppe. Nat Commun 8, 14615 (2017).
We observed particularly high similarity between the Tagar and Classic Scythians from the North Pontic region.
In a comparison of our Tagar series with modern populations in Eurasia, we detected similarity between the Tagar group and some modern Turkic-speaking populations (with the exception of the Indo-Iranian Tajik population) (Fig 7; S2 Table). Among the modern Turkic-speaking groups, populations from the western part of the Eurasian steppe belt, such as Bashkirs from the Volga-Ural region and Siberian Tatars from the West Siberian forest-steppe zone, were more similar to the Tagar group than modern Turkic-speaking populations of the Altay-Sayan mountain system (including the Khakassians from the Minusinsk basin) (Fig 7).
Based on our results, we can preliminarily conclude that there was genetic continuity, at least partially, between the Early, the Middle and the Late Tagar populations. We did not find evidence of extensive gene exchange between the Tagar population and any genetically distinct (with respect to the mtDNA pool) human groups.
Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC)
Pilipenko AS, Trapezov RO, Cherdantsev SV, Babenko VN, Nesterova MS, et al. (2018)Maternal genetic features of the Iron Age Tagar population from Southern Siberia (1st millennium BC). PLOS ONE 13(9): e0204062.
Arzhan-2, the archaeological site of world significance, a national treasure of peoples of Tuva and Russia, located in the «Valley of Kings» (Piy-Khemsk District, Tyva Republic), was investigated in 2001-2004 by the Central Asian Archaeological Expedition of the State Hermitage Museum headed by K.V. Chugunov. The sites has been dated to the 7th c. BC and attributed to the Scythian-Siberian cultural community. When exploring the «royal» burial of the early Scythian site of Arzhan-2, the scientists faced the questions of the origin of the buried, periodization and chronology of the monument, its archaeological-cultural attribution, the autochthonous nature of the population that left it, and its relationship with other Eurasian early nomadic cultures. The present study is addressing the most important issue of the appearance of the buried people and characteristics of their anthropological type. The material for the study was comprised of male and female skulls from burial 5 of Arzhan-2 mound. The article describes in detail the process of reconstruction of the physical appearance of the deceased and provides examples of calculating ante mortem parameters based on craniometric measurements. The complex stages of preliminary work related to the restoration of skulls and manufacturing of their exact copies are highlighted. The results of the physical appearance reconstruction are presented in the form of visual museum objects - sculptural portraits. The scientific reconstruction of the ante mortem appearance on skulls of the «king» and «queen» was carried out in the Laboratory of Anthropological Reconstruction of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences by anthropologists Drs E.V. Veselovskaya and R.M. Galeev. In anthropological terms, the buried show a peculiar mosaic of Caucasoid and Mongoloid features. They are characterized by brachycephaly and dome-shaped head, with notably developed rugosity of the supercilium in the man and its absence in the woman. For the man, an average width of the face and a narrow forehead of medium height are noted. The woman has broad face and forehead, the height of the forehead is average. Both portraits are characterized by prominent position of eyeballs and large eyes. Man’s nose is short, prominent, with convex dorsum. Woman’s nose has a wavy dorsum, and is slightly prominent. On the male portrait, the cheekbones are moderate, on the female one - high and prominent. Faces of the «royal» persons are flattened in the upper part, with a certain degree of alveolar prognathism. The lower jaw of the man is medium in size, narrow in the corners. For the woman, some gracility of the lower jaw can be noted.
Veselovskaya, E.V. & Galeev, Ravil. (2020). Anthropological reconstruction of the physical appearance of the «king» and «queen» from the early Scythian burial and memorial complex of Arzhan-2. VESTNIK ARHEOLOGII, ANTROPOLOGII I ETNOGRAFII. 112-122. 10.20874/2071-0437-2020-49-2-10.
Early physical analyses have unanimously concluded that the Saka, even those far to the east (e.g. the Pazyryk region), possessed predominantly "Europid" features, although mixed 'Euro-mongoloid" phenotypes also occur, depending on site and period.
Сергей Иванович Руденко (Sergei I. Rudenko) (1970). Frozen Tombs of Siberia: The Pazyryk Burials of Iron Age Horsemen. University of California Press. pp. 45-46. ISBN 978-0-520-01395-7. Archived from the original on 2017-03-27. Retrieved 2016-09-25.
The Scythians feature in the treatise as an evocative umbrella for Russia’s Turkic neighbours, one of the Asiatic hordes against which the now self-avowedly Western empire struggled to carry out its civilizing mission.
Meyer, C. (2020). From Scythian Ethnography to Aryan Christianity: Herodotean Revolutions on the Eve of the Russian Revolution. In T. Harrison & J. Skinner (Eds.), Herodotus in the Long Nineteenth Century (pp. 200-223). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781108562805.009
Another study by the same team, again of mtDNA from two Scytho-Siberian skeletons found in the Altai Republic, showed that they had been typical males "of mixed Euro-Mongoloid origin". One of the individuals was found to carry the F2a maternal lineage, and the other the D lineage, both of which are characteristic of East Eurasian populations.
Herodotus is a liar
In any slav..
Love from a pushtoon Afghan to my Scythian ancestry our DNA is from Scythian ancestry
Pashtuns have the highest r1a DNA worldwide
Saka and Tuva study ın this group of Nomad peoples
Scythian Are Indo European and are not one group they were probably Celtic Iranian and other Indo European tribes possibly even tungid Siberian (Asian) to the east possibly Turks do descend from them but Turks are mix of the Yuezhi (who are decentes of the Scythians) +tungid Siberian Asian tribes Turks are Eurasian that’s y they look Eurasian and also y the Turks in turkey would have huge Eastern Europe and Caucasus dna the Turks are a mox of European and Asian the Turks are not Hellenised more evidence will come up that Turks are Eurasian and all ways have been they have a right to say there ancestors were the schythians but the schythians were not Turks
tajiks and yaghnobis are move to the north they became scythians
Truth to be told the only tribe whom one can call is "Indo - Scythian". EU population was farshot from the steppes and Central Asia. Indo - Scythian kingdoms are even mentioned in our Puranic Texts including Uttar Kuru. Bharat was once stretched from Central Asia to Sri Lanka and "Bhagadatta" (Iraq) till Pragjyotishpura (Tripura , Assam all 7 sister states and portion of Myanmar/Burma _ my aunt was from Burma).
Sogdiana and Tokharians are famous in our scriptures and their cities which were mostly named after "Fire" hence called "Agnivansha". We have people who are descended from Scythians in India. Gujjars mostly form the Scythian bunch.
Due to the large kingdom definitely there would have been some intermixing but this was ages ago back even before 7000 B.C.E (pre - Mahabharata times in Dwapara Yuga - an epoch in Sanatan Dharma which is the "way of living" most Indians follow). A.I.T (Aryan Invasion Theory) however - Steppe nomads coming from Germany etc. are all not even proven till date and their basis is unfounded. You can read the only basis being a "Indo - European Language" which was a thesis by few scientists whom haven't cited any true archaeological finding of such a language.
I do agree however the world over followed one culture in a million ways and that commonality can be seen from Ainus in Japan and Kamachatka Kral of Russia till Navajo Native Indian tribes of the Americas.
@@TeymurKhan571 This is correct. Thanks for sharing the info. but the link shows an error could you please fix that or share a new one ? Thanks.
It is written by the Byzantine sources that they call the Turks Scythian.
When presenting the Gokturk Emperor's letter to the Zemarkos Byzantine Emperor, he said:"Today, the nation we call Turk, formerly called SCYTHİAN. This letter was written with the letters SCYTHİAN." (28)
SOURCE = (28) - Edounard Chavannes, Documents sur les Tou-kiue Occidentaux, Paris, sf.235,240,237,238
lol. the Europeans called all Nomadic groups as Scythian, hun,turk and tatar not because these groups were but because they didnt know any better. Its like how most ignorant people call call Asians are "Chinese"....
books.google.com/books?id=9CYiDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=Byzantine+called+all+nomads+a+scythian+or+turk&source=bl&ots=aMpspPj8Ur&sig=ACfU3U1be1GjGNq7P7NKTupTVGcI4dnTVA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiY0KH04uHoAhXhg3IEHaRfBrMQ6AEwCXoECA0QKQ#v=onepage&q=Byzantine%20called%20all%20nomads%20a%20scythian%20or%20turk&f=false
Also can you explain why Slavs,Turks etc dont even use names like Sarmatian,alan,Asses or Saka.
But modern East Iranic people still have ethnic groups that use them...=P
Example- Ossetian self name is from Asses,Jassy and in Hungarira the Jasz people and in Mongolia the Ases who joined the Mongols are still found in Mongolia today with the clan name Asud and Jasin.
In Ossetia the sub-ethnic group of Iron called the Alae(plural form of Alan and Alaegir(Alan-Hero/Men).
In Afghanistan today in the regin of "Sakastan" is a modern day tribe called SAKzai and Sakazai(meaning descendents(Zai/Zoi) a Saka)
Also they have a tribe there still called "Sarmastani"(Sarmatian), and Abdali(hepthali).....But Turks do not.
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Sarmastani people(Sarmatian)
Sakzai people(Saka)
Abdali people(hepthalite)
Koochi people(Yuezhi)
Ossetians(Ases)
Alae/Alaegir(Alan-men from Alae(plural of Alan in east iranic + Vir/Ir meaning men or hero)
While no slav or Turk uses these name/
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Stop propaganda crap.it is said that the letter of the Göktürk emperor was written in the Scythian language.this is not a definition, it means that the people of Göktürk are descendants of the Scythians.
There is even a Turkic peoples called Saka.It has nothing to do with Sakzai The only people who use the name of Saka intact and as they are are the Turkic people.
White Hunnic have nothing to do with Abdali.Hepthalite people are Hun people, and Huns are considered Turkic even in oxford, cambridge and harvard.
SAKHA REBUBLİC
SAKHA YAKUTİAN TURKİC.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakutia
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Hunnic Empire was the empire of the Huns. The Huns were a confederation of Eurasian tribes, especially Turkic ones, from the Steppes of Central Asia.
www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Hunnic_Empire
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* Among them, the Vandals were East Germanic, the Suevi or 'Swabians' were Central Germanic, the Huns were Turkic, and the Alans were Iranic (like the modern Ossetians).[10]
Source OXFORD PRESS: Vanished Kingdoms: The Rise and Fall of States and Nations
Sorry, we do not believe in Indian-European propaganda.
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These earlier scholars based their accounts not on classical texts but on
references to Scythians (sometimes explicitly identified as “Turks”) in medieval
Latin and Byzantine universal chronicles and apocalyptic literature. In these
sources ...
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None of the humanist authors who read Greek-Filelfo, Sagundino, Gaza, Merula
-based his history of the Scythian Turks on information from the Histories.139
one of the humanist authors who read Greek-Filelfo, Sagundino, Gaza, Merula
-based his history of the Scythian Turks on information from the Histories.139
books.google.com.tr/books?id=XDmZXIDiZG8C&pg=PA149&lpg=PA149&dq=scythian+turks&source=bl&ots=d7qnjR6GgR&sig=ACfU3U1UMWCuSHWCtuxdtMnOdCYJp134VA&hl=tr&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=scythian%20turks&f=false
@@hannibalbarca2928 nevermind, I see from your source youre either a troll or Turkic nationalist(known for hiistorian revisions based on nationalism) hilarious, I also had a friend from Korea who claimed everything is from anicent Korea. I feel bad for Turkish people, DNA and history states you are not even Turkic by blood.
Fun Fact Turkish people claim to be Oghuz Turks and came from the Seljuks yet ya'll dont look like Oghuz nor Seljuks who were Mongoloid.
I'm form Pakistan my name is ihtesham Khan I'm also the descended of Scythians all we Pushtan people descended from Scythians
Rong Khans are not scythian jutt of Punjab are pure scythian we know our history very well.
@@imranjutt.9083 How lol
Jaats speak an indian language
Schythians spoke an eastern iiranic language. Today the largest eastern iranic language is Pashto and then ossetian
In Hungary
The ossetians, and Jassics are living scythians.
Also the Pashtuns people of Afghanistan like the Sakzai and sarmastani people(Saka and sarmatians).
Afghans still use Scythian names like sarbani and Esapzai and the term afghan from the ancient Greek recording of the Scythian tribes of Sarbani, Aspasioi and ashvakan etc.
Also the east Iranian speaking pamiri people of western china.
@@teovu5557 No, only the Ossetians of present-day Russia are the true descendants of the Scythians, since their language is directly descended from the Scythian language.
@@malgusvitiate7002 Pashto and Pamiri are also Scythian/Saka languages and are also Eastern iranian languages descended from the Indo-Scythians. Not only lingquistically like Ossetians but also genegtically (Ydna R1a) While Ossetians lack R1a and instead is also entirely G2a which is a caucasian YDNA type akin to Georgians,Laz,Chechens etc. If y ou look up Ossetian genetics and history most researhers agree they are Caucasian tribes that assimilated the Scythian culture and language rather actually scythians.
Massagetae means Great Jats. Massa is maha ( in central Asia, hindi 'h' is pronounced as 's') . Maha means great. Getae is pronounced as Gyaat or Jat.
Massagetae are modern Jats in India.
Jats are only found in North India, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc. There is also Juttland in Denmark in Europe. That proves great Jats or massagetae moved to Europe and South Asia.
Jats have different DNA haplogroups from all other communities of South Asia. They are the most close to central Asian compared to other communities.
Great Jats have very close genetic distance to Afghanistan ( 0.0257),
Denmark (0.0477), and Estonia (0.0498).
Jats are not related to Afghans or Europeans and they are not Scythians.
@WORLDXMILITARY Jats are not Scythians and they should stop cliaming Afghan history as their own but accept their Indian roots.
@WORLDXMILITARY Nobody knows who Jats even are and the ones that do think you are indians, nothing more nothing less. The British cooked up this theory to woo your people to join them to colonize your fellow Indians.
Historians see the Scythians as the ancestors of Afghan/Pashtuns not Jats.
@WORLDXMILITARY The British made up this theory for the aforementioned reasons, i HIGHLY doubt they believed it themselves and even called you guys a martial race to woo you even more. Jats are not a warrior people, they have been primarily agriculturalists.
@WORLDXMILITARY nah ur indians so stop being sad
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