You should not speak about their language, or their ancestors language, because its still not certain. But, all of the nation who call themselves the descendants of the Schythians are speaking Turkic or Uralic, or some other weird languages, but very few of them are Indoeuropen.
So Hitler had the right to claim ownershi of the Swastika? And since he was kind to Ukrainians , was polite and civil to them (according to my grandmother) , Ukraine can too?
Some things never change hypergamy the hunt for high status males is one of them. Every guy who is tall, not disfigured in the face and got in shape knows what I mean. Some woman get so bold if you are their type that they grope you. Happened to me once.
Hey. I'm an Ossetian from the Republic of South Ossetia and glad to see videos like this. We consider scythians as our ancestors (at least by language). So your videos are awesome. Thank you.
@@Morworld lmfao indians are not iranic, iranians are iranic, you don't know what the words mean. And the scythians spoke eastern iranic. Please don't waste my time.
@@Survivethejive whats with all the crazy colours and patterns those artists clad their scythians in? they look like theyre straight out of a DMT jester-space...?
(1:03:52) As a Texan and a huntsman I must correct this: The difference between Elk and Moose is one our European ancestor settlers brought from their own European culture in which "Elk" was the word used to refer to the European Red Deer, distinct from the smaller subspecies of European Roe Deer. Likewise, in America we have smaller deer like whitetail deer, mule deer, and pronghorn antelope which are distinct from the much larger Elk deer. The North American Moose which lives farther north than many Elk herds has a distinct phenotypical shape just like the Asian Moose including uniquely webbed antlers, unique extended snout/muzzle, and an oddly shaped larger body. We Americans call a moose, a moose, and it is very much what the rest of the world thinks of when they refer to a moose. Like the Asian Moose, it's the largest of the deer family and generally doesn't travel below a certain latitude. We call an Elk an Elk, because Elk are a smaller subspecies typically found farther south in the Pacific Basin and Rocky Mountains, while Moose are usually at higher latitudes beginning at the latitude of the Adirondacks, Dakotas, Yellowstone, and Washington (State) near the border with Canada. Elk are also known as "Wapiti" among the Natives. I believe it's the Comanche and Shoshone word for the North American Elk, but it may be a word other tribes use as well. Also of note, Moose tend to be solitary in their nomadic movements, while elk and other deer tend to roam in herds, leading to people in Canada and Alaska sometimes happening to come upon a lone Moose in the woods. Such an encounter can be dangerous, even in a vehicle as they'll charge sometimes. Elk will always run away from humans like other deer.
Didn’t you know that US usage is exactly opposite from European usage? 😊 In British English what you over there call a moose is referred to as an elk, Elch in German, älg in Swedish, elg in Danish, aso. As the species is indigenous in Europe and used to be present as far south as the alps up until around 1700 when the swamps were drained by humans, the European usage is the original one and somehow got switched around in the colonies. Your elk is our deer, which literally means animal. Internet: Although the elk (A. alces) was abundant, settlers did not identify it with the elk of Europe. Instead, they began calling it a moose, using a word borrowed from an Algonquian language of eastern North America. This left the name elk still available, and the English settlers gave it to a large deer, C.
I had no idea they were part of the deer family, considering how much bigger both elk and moose are to most deer that I'm familiar with. The more you know!
"So now you know a bit more about the Skythians..." A bit?! This is the absolute most in-depth video I've ever seen about them. My knowledge about them increased 100 fold.
That is a shame. I would suggest looking at Jason Reza Jorjani’s work. He goes into a lot more depth. The Nart sagas are also not hardly influenced by Zoroastrianism at all, and you should try to find whatever you can by John Colarusso on the topic. This video is absolute shit…
You should watch Russian doc. films and videos about Scythians.....they...( Russuan historians, archeologists, paleo-lynvists, anthropologists, ecy.and their foc.filmakers have the richest material about the topic, both in terms of quality and quantity.... but, yes...this video is probably one of the best from thd Western part, leaning outside of Russian domain. Bravo !
Extremely accurate, as far as I can tell, And very informative. thanks and keep up the good work! As an Iranian and fan of history I can also allude to the ancient and famous book of “shah name”, which is Iranian National epic, and it’s main hero is a schytian warrior called Rostam. You can infer a lot about their habits and lifestyle there.
@@Survivethejive Indeed, Rostam was a saka from sakastana (today's Sistan, south eastern Iran). And the later parts of the shahnameh essentially explore the dialectic between zoroastrianism and more pagan nomadic beliefs
I am currently 28 minutes into the program and I am completely mesmerized. The background music adds an otherworldly quality to it. This is high-quality content that not even National Geographic could produce.
@@daniellewis3750 On another note, I do believe there was some circumstance when they would traditionally consume one another's love mustard also(upon welcoming, iirc). Different times, I suppose.
This is some of the most compelling and well put together ancient history content on RUclips! I love the haplogroup info and renderings. Beautiful work!
This is an absolute gem among all the videos about the ancient world in RUclips ! Getting into details and mentioning all possible connections of every single information... IT'S JUST 💎
Excellent Scythian documentary, enthralling from start to finish. Detailed without being dull or lengthy. Puts the History Channel and the BBC to shame.
Extraordinary high-quality video that combines genetic, linguistic, historical and mythological sources in an informative way Your citation of sources and use of original languages makes the video an incredible tool for anyone wishing to pursue further research.
Adi Divyan /vayanaattukulavan theyyam Divyan/thiyyan Daivam/theyyam Thiyyas god's are theyyams Centuries old thiyyas theyyam thottams do mention the meaning of the name thiyya as divya/divyan (in english it means divine) several times in the theyyam rituals Thiyyas are shaktheya hindhus from kerala thiyya means divyan/divine and theyyam means daivam/ deva and in central asian and Chinese language also the word thiya meens divine/deva or heaven and the ritual performance of the divine is called theyyam/daivam And most theyyams are related with thiyya community of north malabar and thiyyas ancestor god is vayanaattu kulavan/aadi divyan/aadi thiyyan and ancestor godess or kula devi is Arya poomaala bagavathi and sree kurumba bagavathi is also an important goddess of thiyyas almost all sree kurumba kavu and temples in malabaar is related with thiyya and they also worship muthappan an aryan god of thiyyas a mixture of Shiva and vishnu as one divine soul theyyam in all parts in the country and many of thiyya theyyams do mention Arya word many times in their theyyam thottams like Arya nation,Arya land, Arya god,Arya king,Arya daughter etc.. and the nearby hindhu communitys around north malabar area also adopted theyyams from years and gentic studies by indian government authorities also saying thiyyas have an out side origin from south india and thiyya played a huge role in the spread of kalaripayattu, Ayurveda and theyyams in malabar kerala and the ruling hindhu party in india BJP (bhara thiya janatha party) also named after this community 'bharathiya means divine people of bharat' it use to glorify the people of bharat. And the word 'thi' also means in Malayalam 🔥 fire(agni) the purest thing and its colour is orange which is a sacred colour for hindhus and thiyyas use large fire 🔥 and alcohol and cannabis also use in their ancestor worship and spiritual rituals and in central asian-chinese vedic hindhu-bhudhist mixed religion they used the word Thiya to glorify their gods like Dàzìzàithiān (Shiva), Dìshìtiān (Indra), Dàfàntiān (Brahma), Jíxiáng Tiānnǚ (Lakshmi), Biàncáithiān (Saraswati or Bharathi) and scy-thians are also an indo iraninan tribe lived in central asia and in anciant greek also thia means divine/god/ goddess and a goddess called theia also in Greece methodology and many gods also carry 'thia' name in ancient greek religion and the fire 🔥 goddess is called 'hestia' in ancient greek mythology In the Vedic tradition, soma (Sanskrit: सोम, romanized: sóma) is a ritual drink of importance among the early Vedic Indo-Aryans.The Rigveda mentions it, particularly in the Soma Mandala. Gita mentions the drink in chapter 9 It is equivalent to the Iranian haoma(alcohol drink)The relationship between humans and the deity was one of transaction, with Agni (the sacrificial fire) taking the role of messenger between the two. Strong traces of a common Indo-Iranian religion remain visible, especially in the Soma cult and the fire worship and animal sacrifice is also part of early vedic tribes
A lot of people will be angered by claims that white people lived as far as Mongolia, India and Iran, and call it historical revisionism, but have no problem admitting that the Asiatic Huns lived as far as Western Europe and Scandinavia. If one is true, why can't both be true?
@@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 the Aryans were/are WHITE. not the dark inhabitants of India today. the caste system originated with us Europeans. the Hindu caste system is a corruption of an older Aryan/white iteration. The older pagan societal systems of Aryan civilizations are not just more meritocratic and fluid in nature, but also place a lot more importance on the soul or spiritual advancement of an individual in terms of which "caste" they should be a part of. And a lot of the White Hindu Aryans of South Asia, all racially miscegenated with the Brown Australoid Dravidians from the South.
Indians don’t have a problem with the idea that white coloured peoples lived that Far East. The issue is the idea that our ancestors were whites or that the Aryans invaded india to establish Vedic culture.
Been waiting for this for quite a while, so glad you got it out m8. The various Fatyanovo descended nomads are almost like a lost tribe; strong influences that have been long forgotten to history, a bit like the Hittites. If there's anybody that has the power to bring them a little deserved attention, it's you, Tom.
Glad to see that you used a video by Ivan Semyan, showing the horse chariot! He was one of the professors at my university, and I also studied with an archaeologist who discovered Arkaim! Greetings from Urals!
I greatly appreciate you pronouncing the romanized C sound as Greek Kappa, rather than the c-sedilla (ç) one English inherited from the French; as well as using the older form of upsilon that was corrupted into an i sound, even in modern Greek.
@@Survivethejive unfortunately in modern Greek the pronunciation of iota has replaced many other vowels like epsilon and upsilon, as well as digraphs. These are all pronounced like "i" iota: ι, η, υ, ει, οι, υι
When υ was pronounced as /y/, θ was pronounced as an aspirated /t/, not a th sound. It's unreasonable to expect English speakers to pronounce a letter with a sound that is absent in their natural phonology, and then turn around and use modern English phonology for other letters. Either pronounce it as the Ancient Greeks did, or use the most appropriate English sounds.
Really appreciate this documentary, I'm Eastern European ancestry, my bloodline was closely connected to horses and traveled East back in past, while watching this i feel closely connected to Scythian culture.
Tapati - Deity of Fire. Makes sense. In hindi, we say, if someone is feeling warm (fever), we say “voh tap raha(rahi) hai” as in he or she is gaining fever. Or, if youre just feeling hot, “mein tap raha hoon.” In gujarati, “Taap pushkar chhe” as in, it’s excessively hot here! Thanks!
I've always had a particular fascination with the Scythians, and all the sub groups that are often lumped together. I've read and watched quite a bit about them yet I can tell this is probably the best video description of them I've seen so far. Only 6min in and I'm already thrilled that you've covered and explained the nuances that I see a lot of others get confused or caught up on when talking about the Scythians. Great work
Can you please do some research and hopefully a video on the Dacian culture, which to my knowledge they are a Celtic, Sarmatian, Scythian, Thracian culture. The territory they inhabited has been continuously inhabited from ~6000 BC, which makes them a very interesting topic, in my opinion. Great content, Best of luck!
One of my favourite sights is the flax in bloom. Your documentaries are truly wonderful and give so much food for thought, thank you for condensing and conveying such valuable information. I feel like watching it again immediately. And thank you for calling that animal "elk"
The day you guys associate Pashtuns to Saka almost all mystery around them will be solved. I am a Pashtun, all of these things sound so familiar in such strange ways.
Pashtuns are Iranians, but if you tell this to Pashtuns, some of them get absolutely mad, but its true. There are many Iranian ethnic groups, and Pashtun is one of them. If you're a Pashtun, and believe you came from Jews, then you cannot claim this Iranian heritage like Scythians, because Jews are not Iranic peoples. Some Pashtuns know they are Iranian, and are proud of it. Like Persians come Parthians, Medes, Bactrians, Tajiks come from Bactrians, Scythians, Sogdians, and Kurds come from Medes, and so on, and those are all ancient Iranian tribes, and they all spoke ancient Iranian languages, and all these people still speak Iranian languages like Persian, Pashto, Kurdish. I think some Pashtuns get mad because they think you're taking away their Afghan heritage. If the country Iran was still called Persia, I don't think Pashtuns would get offended by saying they are Iranian peoples.
Here's to hoping this blows up. Your last three videos were important to me Tom but this was an excellent surprise. I had looked for documentaries on Scythians some time ago and couldn't find anything of such quality and depth.
In Hungarian, the word „ANIMAL" (in Hungarian „ÁLLAT”) had several meanings until the 19th century. It also meant the word animal, but it also meant the state of something. In folk songs, the antlers of the stag reach up to the sky and are covered with the light of shining stars, candles or the sun. The magnificent stag connects heaven and earth. Shamans wear deer antlers because they have a stronger connection to the sky than other people. In this video, at 46:32 we see a man turned into a horned man, that is, a man in a state of relationship with God. There are also lilies on the tapestry, which represent God.
@@mariussielcken This is absolutely true. Even in the Bronze Age there are people in helmets with long horns. A man with horns is first found in the Trois-Fréres cave. It is estimated at 15,000-13,000 years before Christ. It is strange that this depiction also appears in Scythian times. Hungarians sing a folk prayer about a boy with horns, while rattling sticks. The Scythian rattling stick ends also sometimes show a deer, sometimes a cattle.
@mariussielcken Dhul Qarnayn (meaning the One with Two Horns in Arabic) was once thought to be Alexander the great, with the two horns representing his unification of Greece and his conquest of Persia, but many now think he is supposed to be Cyrus the great, considering his importance in the Bible as well as being thought to be a monotheist.
Thank you sir, absolutely outstanding! I have been reading about the Scythians and how their art styles have influenced the old Nordic culture. It`s all so incredibly interlocked, not just Indic but even Mesopotamia and Egypt. Shall most certainly look into your work. Well done!
Finally some good SCYTHIAN content, thank you brother of the North. You really outdid yourself on this one, loads of information here. What a treasure.. Keep on kicking ass StJ.
You are my favorite archaeology channel! I have been watching you since I was a stoner in jr. college. Now I am in the 1st year of my masters in archaeology. Thank you for your work! Keep up the good fight Aryama!
The part about crossdressing and Siberian influence - shamans usually impersonate the spirit that they are represnting. This is preserved in some Tibetan rituals as well. The shaman is meant to be representing a living female deity. It is unlikely there was any sexual context behind that.
Thank you for your continued contribution to the pagan/heathen/polytheist community, we appreciate it Tom, we need more men and women adding to this growing body of work/revival.
Just discovered this channel. Love it. You are thorough and shed light on these obscure, yet significant topics. Cannot wait to binge the rest of your videos. Thank you!
It's worth noting that there are clear instructions on how to perform blood sacrifices-of both humans and animals-in the earliest Hindu texts, particularly the Rigveda.
@@Survivethejivean you provide the verses? As far as I’m aware, purushmedha is mentioned in the Yajurveda. The later texts of Shatapatha Brahmana which itself came as a retaliation to Sramanic Buddhist and Jains “Ahimsa”, openly condemned the practice and advocated for the release of to be victims. Later Upanishads and Bhagvat Purana alo uphold the ban and condemn it again.
Those Alans that were described in the beginning of the video are the same Alans who ruled Spain! On the other side of the continent! I feel like Iranian and Germanic peoples have spread so much farther than people realize
At one point in history, the Iranic branch were the most widespread and numerous of all Indo-Europeans. They were also the last to hold onto the original nomadic nature of indo-european culture.
Thank you Tom for this wonderful video. Well researched and magnificently made. I've been waiting for you to cover the Scythians and other Iranic steppe nomads and was not disappointed. I had been fascinated by this culture since reading the Conan the Barbarian comics when I was a kid, which had many Scythian motifs and influences.
I always rewatch your videos because I pick things up the second time round that I didn't notice the first, especially on subjects that I'm completely unfamiliar with, like Scythians. Thanks again for all of these high calibre documentaries
Ah yes. I was given permission by Odinets the pale to use it and he said he owned it. I was going to credit Bendis but thought it was a typo in my notes from when i was talking about the goddess Bendis. I can't re edit and export the whole film now, but how about i share your art and link on my twitter of Telegram?
I have to say, having the time and opportunity to drink your first killed enemy blood during a battle is unlikely. Reminds me of how in the Iliad they tried on the armor of every great warrior they killed, in the midst of battle, and then went on fighting more.
I am proud of my Iranian(Iranic) ancestors. Especially after taking DNA tests, going back to the Neolithic era. I am ethnic Persian and cluster very close with other Iranic groups, particularly the Alans and pre-Indo-European Caucasian and Anatolian groups. I am happy to see Iranian and other Iranic peoples get more historical spotlight. Thank you.
I am afghan and i got mostly iranian dna and northern indian in my report and ironically some finnish as well. Chances are I have some scythian ancestry myself too.
@@balto9674 That’s awesome. You definitely have Scythian and Bactrian ancestry as they established the Indo-Scythian kingdom, as well as the Kushan Empire. Pashtuns are Iranic peoples too, while the Tajiks are west Iranic Persian peoples.
@@Arya_N700 Yeah I am an ethnic pashtun from both my parents but I can see that I have some heritage from them as they are all Iranic people’s. Even my hapologroup dna comes from the caucasus and iran mostly from tehran and isfahan province. These people are interesting since they were a mysterious and I know Sistan province in Afghanistan is known as Sakastan.
the Snake legged goddess is also known in early Taoism as the sister to Fuxi, the discoverer of the Bagua. Together, they brought the early North Chinese culture, known for grass skirts. Such grass skirts are also known in Siberian shamanic skirts, similar to the Algiz belled skirts as shamans also wear metal and mirrors to mimic thunder and lightning.
Another amazing video thank you! I've had a theory that the Saxons descend which descended from the Sicambri had themselves (at least partly) descended from Scythians (Saka) and Shakyas. If not then they all clearly share some of the same very indo European cultural aspects.
There is a sense of familiarity but enigmatic distance to central Asia, akin in some sense to that of the Great Plains of North America you recognise at some level.
That's because, although STJ tends to keep them all separate as individual cultures, they all came from a common root stock of people, these cultures are separate and unique but also connected as branches to a trunk. These "root" people traveled across the world using boats and seeded their early cultures, and genes, everywhere. Oceans are not true barriers but rather travel "highways" as it is easier to travel by boat than traverse mountain peaks or deserts. However, this theory of a common seed people is usually against many archaeologists' theories whom prefer to keep most atomized.
great episode as always! I have been intrigued by scythians for long. I wondered if you would lay more light upon the Indian scythians known as "saka/shaka" in Sanskrit. They have an important relevance even to modern India as the official calendar of India adopted by the government after Independence is the one started by a saka king. It is called the "saka samvat". Saka samvat in addition to vikram samvat are two important calendars of hinduism. India follows saka samvat while Nepal follows the older vikram samvat which is based on king Vikramaditya. You will find saka calendar date mentioned on all Indian government announcements, gazettes and parliament (sansad) proceedings. Additionally, while tapati is indeed a river, the meaning of the word "tap" continues to be heat/burning in sanskrit/hindi. It gives rise to words "taap" meaning heat, "taapmaan" meaning temperature, as well as "tapasya" meaning burning in the practice of austerity, hard work/meditation.
You may also know that the group of kshatriyas/warriors from the Saka group were introduced into Hinduism as the Agnivanshi Rajputs. Agnivanshi meaning descendents of Fire. So the Hindu priests knew about the belief system of the Sakas.
Maga brahmin were related to saka people,they were sun worshipper.early Buddhist text "Mahabivasha" showed that these maga Brahmin were barbarian,related to scythinans,had maintain illicit sexual relation with own family members like incest.modern day they r mostly living in uttarpradesh,up,bihar,odisha.maximum rape happens there by tgese ppl.
Last week I was just searching RUclips for SurviveTheJive videos on Scythians. Thanks for reading my mind and making this awesome video. Much love STJ, and Stay #VeryIndoEuropean
Clearly this Channel is very important, filling a huge gap. Thank you for so much work!! It is bridging a gap in the past of Vedic indo-euro culture. It is a work truly bringing east & west closer in troubled times. Blessings on the Producer and on all honest & peaceful visitors☆
Thank you! Great video. Surprisingly a lot of proto-iranic words I see in finnish language. For example, "taivas" (similar to proto-iranic *daywás) means "sky" in finnish.
@@Survivethejive "Goths came from Sweden but they mixed with steppe people like the Huns who has scythian ancestry" .... (your own quote) suggests it is the other way around. The Aryans came over into the Danube and then to the steppes per their legends. Runes etc They inter-related with Sumer, Akkadians and Gutians etc The records will afterward prove bloodlines, after a very great catastrophe/deluge, then spread from the steppes/Urals, we need to wake up! We even rely on corded ware as to 'where they went and from which area' ??? These people were very advanced in foundry, we can tell by these images.
I know I have commented this once before on a video of yours. In reference to the stag: The twins Hunor and Magor who were the sons of Menrot a mythical giant, were hunting one day when they saw a white stag, they followed it across various landscapes until it lead them to a land they would populate with their respective races the Huns, and Magyar. The stag was obviously important to them, as well as the divine twin motif.
There are many Scythian links to Hungarians. For instance in many Hungarian folk tales there are 3 brothers or sisters and the youngest of the 3 is always the most successful who triumphs over their older siblings who gang up on them. This appears in the video where the youngest of the Scythian brothers is the strongest. The Sword of Mars was also carried by kings of Hungary, at least a sabre which they claimed belonged to Attila the Hun which he obtained after defeating the Scythians.
This ought to be very interesting. I will come back latter to watch it, due to the lack of time at the moment. I am glad and thankful to everyone who opens the topic of Scythians in scientific way. Thank You! :)
@@Survivethejive I did see many European medieval clothes which are reminding me about Scythian culture. So basically Scythians descent from European populations which migrated again to Asia and mixed with Native BMAC and Yaz cultures to create Indo Iranian group is it right?
Thank you very much Tom, I’ve taken a little time to get through this. I particularly appreciate the information about the balbal statues, that has been helpful in my own work.
I really appreciate your research and enthusiasm on this topic-it's brilliantly explained! Thank you so much for sharing these insights, Survive the Jive. As an Indo-Aryan from central Nepal, I’ve always been curious about the cultures my ancestors practiced, and your work has been incredibly enlightening!
I am interested in Scythians and their origins and history for more than 20 years and this is one of the best studies i have ever seen on this subject, thank you so much for making this great video
The connections, through mythology and language, of Europe and Western Asia are astounding. The part about the fire/sun diety being female reminded me of the Norse goddess of the sun, Sol. Your video is wonderful.
The Goddess from Kelermes scythian mirror is definitely Potnia Theron. It is amazing that you can find many almost identical images of her in ancient Greek, Etruscan, Minoian and Mycenaean art. There are also similar images of the Goddess in Mesopotamia and Egypt . According to a theory, the figure represents the goddess Artemis, which sounds very close to Artimpasa by the way. I think Potnia Theron "the Mistress of Animals" is a very big and underappreciated topic that deserves more attention.
Just because there are animals you assume it's a foreign greek goddess? Even when i explained what happened to scythians who worshipped greek goddesses and i explained how important animals are in their art??
@@Survivethejive Yes, that's odd. I know. But why she looks almost identical? Same figure, same wings, same clothes, same position of holding animals ..even face and hair style. Perhaps "potnia theron francois vase" is a good example. Please google it and see for yourself. And there are many of those images. Maybe is not even of greek origin... Do you think those images can not have any connection somehow?
@@Survivethejive "Artemis" is not of Greek origin, even though she ascended to Olympian level fame. The etymology of her name is unclear. Perhaps Artimpasa was the root...?
Due to the interst I have in all the STJ videos, while I was watching this I was extremely serious. Then that shaman suddenly said *IT'S MA'AM!* and I had to pause the video until I finished to laugh. Perfect work as usual ;) Always onoring our ancestors exposing them to the public.
As an American viewer, I want to make a small correction. We recognize Elks and Mooses as distinct animals. The main distinction comes in the shape of their horns. An Elk has longer, more slender horns that branch apart further from the head. A Moose has horns that are largely more shovel-shaped. North America as a whole has four subspecies of Elk: the Roosevelt Elk, the Tule Elk, the Rocky Mountain Elk, and the Manitboa Elk. The Moose/Elk situation is actually a matter of Europeans grouping the animals North Americans call Mooses into the same family as Elks. Otherwise, amazing video as always!
The Scythian material culture is widespread over the Eurasian steppe and much of it may not correspond to Iranian-speakers as we know that Ugric and Turcic cultures at least shared the same style of living and material culture. The late Avars of the 8th century for example had a widespread representation of beasts of prey and they most probably spoke Turcic at least according to the few inscriptions that we can read. Scythian sites situated like Filippovka perhaps belonged to Ugric speaking people.
@@kathrinat9824 From what we know of the Indo-Europeans, the Scythians exhibit the most ancient characteristics in common with them, our ancestors. Like all European groups, they became influenced by the native peoples they encountered, just as the Indo-Europeans in the West took on much from the earlier farming people, which influenced the development of the Celts; the northern groups were influenced by the Sami of Finland, whose shamanism had a shaping effect on Norse religion; the Hellens were strongly influenced by the Mycenaeans. However, the Scythians occupied much of the territory of their (and our) original Proto Indo-European homelands. That, and if we want to actually see a semi-nomadic European group, we need look no further than them to understand what that might look like. For my purposes, reconstructing ancient Celtic culture, it helps very much to gain a sense of perspective by learning about the Scythians, so I have been researching Tabiti, Papaos, Artimpasa and the like for many years.
@@thegreenmage6956 so we didn't have our own cultures, customs languages etc.. people are making it sound like as if we were completely ignorant and didn't develop anything on our own. wtf?
@@thegreenmage6956 I completely agree about Scythians being a window into PIE. Are you trying to reconstruct ancient Celtic belief? Would you have recommendations for how to / where to learn about Scythian beliefs from?
Wow, great video. Intrigued by seeing the name Tapati as it is a very very popular name in Bengal(a state in India). Bengalis are an Indo-Aryan ethno linguistic group with a very complex genetic make up. Mainly recognisable ancestory of Bengalis are:- 1)Proto Indo european with Steppe ancestry. Mostly Brahmin and Kayastha in bengal society 2)South Asian Hunter Gatherers 3)Australo-asiatic peoples from South East Asia. Especially Munda people with rich cultural heritage. 4)West Asian Hunter-gatherer (dravidians) 5)Tibetian people from East asia Steppe people carried the name introduced it in Bengal.
Thank you for making such informative videos. I have been so fascinated by Indo-European history and the spread of culture and religions. I always look forward to your videos!
42:02 A similar motif to the four treasures of the Dagda. Bríd also being a highly venerated Goddess of the hearth. Ó Gríofa or Griffin is a popular second name in Ireland. You also have Griffith in Wales. I keep seeing associations that link Gaelic religion and culture with that of the Eurasian Steppe and areas such as Phonecia
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Dang, I was wondering what happened to "the Golden One"
Thank you for thinking outside the box and contributing to my sanity.
You should not speak about their language, or their ancestors language, because its still not certain. But, all of the nation who call themselves the descendants of the Schythians are speaking Turkic or Uralic, or some other weird languages, but very few of them are Indoeuropen.
So Hitler had the right to claim ownershi of the Swastika? And since he was kind to Ukrainians , was polite and civil to them (according to my grandmother) , Ukraine can too?
Scythian girl posts a picture in Instagram: "you guys like my new bow?"
OMGROFLMAO! This is the perfect comment for that thumbnail!
I legit had to have a short debate that this was a woman with one of my friends.... ^_^
Some things never change hypergamy the hunt for high status males is one of them. Every guy who is tall, not disfigured in the face and got in shape knows what I mean. Some woman get so bold if you are their type that they grope you. Happened to me once.
im surprise that not much notice the thumbnail
Hey. I'm an Ossetian from the Republic of South Ossetia and glad to see videos like this. We consider scythians as our ancestors (at least by language). So your videos are awesome. Thank you.
What?
Is it True ? Because now days central Asian countries consider themselves to be Scythians.
@@Morworld only language changed, most central asians are iranian in descent, only kazakhs are very mixed
@@MorworldErr..Iranians are Iranic peoples and Indians are most definitely not Iranic.
@@Morworld lmfao indians are not iranic, iranians are iranic, you don't know what the words mean. And the scythians spoke eastern iranic. Please don't waste my time.
Outstanding. Especially considering this is a One-Man-Channel.
Production value and Information are so stunning.
Wow, thank you! However i must thank all the artists who let me use their work
It's a big reason why I give him money on SubscribeStar!
@@Survivethejive whats with all the crazy colours and patterns those artists clad their scythians in? they look like theyre straight out of a DMT jester-space...?
@@rickdeckard1075 Because that's what the surviving clothing, art and saddles show to us: that they wore vibrant colors whenever they could.
(1:03:52) As a Texan and a huntsman I must correct this: The difference between Elk and Moose is one our European ancestor settlers brought from their own European culture in which "Elk" was the word used to refer to the European Red Deer, distinct from the smaller subspecies of European Roe Deer. Likewise, in America we have smaller deer like whitetail deer, mule deer, and pronghorn antelope which are distinct from the much larger Elk deer. The North American Moose which lives farther north than many Elk herds has a distinct phenotypical shape just like the Asian Moose including uniquely webbed antlers, unique extended snout/muzzle, and an oddly shaped larger body. We Americans call a moose, a moose, and it is very much what the rest of the world thinks of when they refer to a moose. Like the Asian Moose, it's the largest of the deer family and generally doesn't travel below a certain latitude. We call an Elk an Elk, because Elk are a smaller subspecies typically found farther south in the Pacific Basin and Rocky Mountains, while Moose are usually at higher latitudes beginning at the latitude of the Adirondacks, Dakotas, Yellowstone, and Washington (State) near the border with Canada. Elk are also known as "Wapiti" among the Natives. I believe it's the Comanche and Shoshone word for the North American Elk, but it may be a word other tribes use as well. Also of note, Moose tend to be solitary in their nomadic movements, while elk and other deer tend to roam in herds, leading to people in Canada and Alaska sometimes happening to come upon a lone Moose in the woods. Such an encounter can be dangerous, even in a vehicle as they'll charge sometimes. Elk will always run away from humans like other deer.
Didn’t you know that US usage is exactly opposite from European usage? 😊 In British English what you over there call a moose is referred to as an elk, Elch in German, älg in Swedish, elg in Danish, aso.
As the species is indigenous in Europe and used to be present as far south as the alps up until around 1700 when the swamps were drained by humans, the European usage is the original one and somehow got switched around in the colonies.
Your elk is our deer, which literally means animal.
Internet: Although the elk (A. alces) was abundant, settlers did not identify it with the elk of Europe. Instead, they began calling it a moose, using a word borrowed from an Algonquian language of eastern North America. This left the name elk still available, and the English settlers gave it to a large deer, C.
Elk and moose range overlaps a lot. There are both elk and moose all over Alberta where I live, and even reindeer further north.
I had no idea they were part of the deer family, considering how much bigger both elk and moose are to most deer that I'm familiar with. The more you know!
"So now you know a bit more about the Skythians..."
A bit?! This is the absolute most in-depth video I've ever seen about them. My knowledge about them increased 100 fold.
And finally, we find someone who actually pronounces the name properly.
These people are the main antagonists in my Visigothic book series that I have written
That is a shame. I would suggest looking at Jason Reza Jorjani’s work. He goes into a lot more depth. The Nart sagas are also not hardly influenced by Zoroastrianism at all, and you should try to find whatever you can by John Colarusso on the topic. This video is absolute shit…
You should watch Russian doc. films and videos about Scythians.....they...( Russuan historians, archeologists, paleo-lynvists, anthropologists, ecy.and their foc.filmakers have the richest material about the topic, both in terms of quality and quantity....
but, yes...this video is probably one of the best from thd Western part, leaning outside of Russian domain. Bravo !
@@simonidastankovic2627 shame its difficult for westerners to reach into the russian domain.. especially now
Extremely accurate, as far as I can tell, And very informative. thanks and keep up the good work!
As an Iranian and fan of history I can also allude to the ancient and famous book of “shah name”, which is Iranian National epic, and it’s main hero is a schytian warrior called Rostam. You can infer a lot about their habits and lifestyle there.
I mentioned shahnameh in my video on the world tree. I didn’t know it was about a scythian
@@Survivethejive Indeed, Rostam was a saka from sakastana (today's Sistan, south eastern Iran). And the later parts of the shahnameh essentially explore the dialectic between zoroastrianism and more pagan nomadic beliefs
Yeah, thats a killer tale. Ancient Persian mythology, and story combined.
I am currently 28 minutes into the program and I am completely mesmerized. The background music adds an otherworldly quality to it. This is high-quality content that not even National Geographic could produce.
I appreciate this glowing review!
You want to check out his video where the king has intimate relations with a horse to prove his command over wild animals.
@@daniellewis3750 "...not that there's anything wrong with that. What they do in their own bedrooms..." 😆
@@daniellewis3750 On another note, I do believe there was some circumstance when they would traditionally consume one another's love mustard also(upon welcoming, iirc). Different times, I suppose.
@@Survivethejive Could you share the playlist, pelase? I'm working on a fantasy project based on Yamna and Sintshta cultures and it's super inspiring
Finally you made a Scythian video. I've been obsessed with them ever since I first found out about them.
i would attribute a large part of the Mystery of them to the very broadness of the term Scythian.
Where are you from?
@@kathrinat9824 Saudi Arabia
There's lots of russian language sources on them
@@kathrinat9824 Slava
This is some of the most compelling and well put together ancient history content on RUclips!
I love the haplogroup info and renderings.
Beautiful work!
I always love your long documentary type videos. Thanks Tom
EDIT: 24:00 didn't expect to see that! 😂
WHOA! someone called me so i wasnt listening, but then that image showed up and i told them i had to go to find out WHY HOMEBOY DOIN THIS TO HIMSELF
@@gilgoofthegrove5072 😂😂
@@gilgoofthegrove5072 he later regretted it
In India, Tapa means meditation, which also means turning hot due to the energy gained through meditation. In Marathi Taap also means getting hot.
Very well spotted.
In Persian Tab means fever.
@@lambert801 Yup. Taap is also used in marathi for fever.
thats so interesting, it immediately brings to mind, Tummo Meditation/ Buddhist Breath of Fire ...not sure if connected though but perhaps
Taapmaan means temperature too
This is an absolute gem among all the videos about the ancient world in RUclips !
Getting into details and mentioning all possible connections of every single information... IT'S JUST 💎
So nice of you
Excellent Scythian documentary, enthralling from start to finish. Detailed without being dull or lengthy. Puts the History Channel and the BBC to shame.
BBC and History channel put themselves to shame with their bs programs
Extraordinary high-quality video that combines genetic, linguistic, historical and mythological sources in an informative way Your citation of sources and use of original languages makes the video an incredible tool for anyone wishing to pursue further research.
I've been fascinated with the Scythians for years and this is the best video on the subject I've seen.
Adi Divyan /vayanaattukulavan theyyam
Divyan/thiyyan
Daivam/theyyam
Thiyyas god's are theyyams
Centuries old thiyyas theyyam thottams do mention the meaning of the name thiyya as divya/divyan (in english it means divine) several times in the theyyam rituals
Thiyyas are shaktheya hindhus from kerala thiyya means divyan/divine and theyyam means daivam/ deva and in central asian and Chinese language also the word thiya meens divine/deva or heaven and the ritual performance of the divine is called theyyam/daivam And most theyyams are related with thiyya community of north malabar and thiyyas ancestor god is vayanaattu kulavan/aadi divyan/aadi thiyyan and ancestor godess or kula devi is Arya poomaala bagavathi and sree kurumba bagavathi is also an important goddess of thiyyas almost all sree kurumba kavu and temples in malabaar is related with thiyya and they also worship muthappan an aryan god of thiyyas a mixture of Shiva and vishnu as one divine soul theyyam in all parts in the country and many of thiyya theyyams do mention Arya word many times in their theyyam thottams like Arya nation,Arya land, Arya god,Arya king,Arya daughter etc.. and the nearby hindhu communitys around north malabar area also adopted theyyams from years and gentic studies by indian government authorities also saying thiyyas have an out side origin from south india and thiyya played a huge role in the spread of kalaripayattu, Ayurveda and theyyams in malabar kerala and the ruling hindhu party in india BJP (bhara thiya janatha party) also named after this community 'bharathiya means divine people of bharat' it use to glorify the people of bharat.
And the word 'thi' also means in Malayalam 🔥 fire(agni) the purest thing and its colour is orange which is a sacred colour for hindhus and thiyyas use large fire 🔥 and alcohol and cannabis also use in their ancestor worship and spiritual rituals
and in central asian-chinese vedic hindhu-bhudhist mixed religion they used the word Thiya to glorify their gods like Dàzìzàithiān (Shiva), Dìshìtiān (Indra), Dàfàntiān (Brahma), Jíxiáng Tiānnǚ (Lakshmi), Biàncáithiān (Saraswati or Bharathi)
and scy-thians are also an indo iraninan tribe lived in central asia and in anciant greek also thia means divine/god/ goddess and a goddess called theia also in Greece methodology and many gods also carry 'thia' name in ancient greek religion and the fire 🔥 goddess is called 'hestia' in ancient greek mythology
In the Vedic tradition, soma (Sanskrit: सोम, romanized: sóma) is a ritual drink of importance among the early Vedic Indo-Aryans.The Rigveda mentions it, particularly in the Soma Mandala. Gita mentions the drink in chapter 9 It is equivalent to the Iranian haoma(alcohol drink)The relationship between humans and the deity was one of transaction, with Agni (the sacrificial fire) taking the role of messenger between the two. Strong traces of a common Indo-Iranian religion remain visible, especially in the Soma cult and the fire worship and animal sacrifice is also part of early vedic tribes
A lot of people will be angered by claims that white people lived as far as Mongolia, India and Iran, and call it historical revisionism, but have no problem admitting that the Asiatic Huns lived as far as Western Europe and Scandinavia. If one is true, why can't both be true?
Same with migrating Asiatic Bolghars in Thrāikes Bulgaria, and after them the Uralic Asiatic Mogyër moving to modern Hungaria.
They can be angered as much as they want, we shall not care about their feelings.
@@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 the Aryans were/are WHITE. not the dark inhabitants of India today. the caste system originated with us Europeans. the Hindu caste system is a corruption of an older Aryan/white iteration. The older pagan societal systems of Aryan civilizations are not just more meritocratic and fluid in nature, but also place a lot more importance on the soul or spiritual advancement of an individual in terms of which "caste" they should be a part of.
And a lot of the White Hindu Aryans of South Asia, all racially miscegenated with the Brown Australoid Dravidians from the South.
Indians don’t have a problem with the idea that white coloured peoples lived that Far East. The issue is the idea that our ancestors were whites or that the Aryans invaded india to establish Vedic culture.
@@Lee-sd8uothis is just racist liberalism.
Been waiting for this for quite a while, so glad you got it out m8. The various Fatyanovo descended nomads are almost like a lost tribe; strong influences that have been long forgotten to history, a bit like the Hittites. If there's anybody that has the power to bring them a little deserved attention, it's you, Tom.
Glad to see that you used a video by Ivan Semyan, showing the horse chariot! He was one of the professors at my university, and I also studied with an archaeologist who discovered Arkaim! Greetings from Urals!
He has done excellent work!
@@Survivethejive if I'll ever cross paths with him again, I will tell him about your work!
@@Iisheell Please do! I'm sure he will value these videos!
Приветствую бро! Где можно посмотреть работы Ивана Семьяна?
The connection steppe people used to have is incredible. And your documentaries are top, thx
This was absolutely fascinating, thank you.
Cheers Dan!
Oh hey, nice to see you here.
Dan Davis and Survive the Jive are treasures. Please never stop. Much love
I greatly appreciate you pronouncing the romanized C sound as Greek Kappa, rather than the c-sedilla (ç) one English inherited from the French; as well as using the older form of upsilon that was corrupted into an i sound, even in modern Greek.
Thanks. Others think I am weird for doing this but I must live a certain way
@@Survivethejive unfortunately in modern Greek the pronunciation of iota has replaced many other vowels like epsilon and upsilon, as well as digraphs. These are all pronounced like "i" iota: ι, η, υ, ει, οι, υι
Polymathy, and on his other channel, has talked about this a lot.
When υ was pronounced as /y/, θ was pronounced as an aspirated /t/, not a th sound.
It's unreasonable to expect English speakers to pronounce a letter with a sound that is absent in their natural phonology, and then turn around and use modern English phonology for other letters.
Either pronounce it as the Ancient Greeks did, or use the most appropriate English sounds.
I also appreciate this!
Really appreciate this documentary, I'm Eastern European ancestry, my bloodline was closely connected to horses and traveled East back in past, while watching this i feel closely connected to Scythian culture.
Scythians were Iranians, and there are many Iranian people, and yes some peoples today have their lineage connected to them. Where are you from?
@agostocobain2729 Czech Republic, with Polish, Russian and Hungarian ancestry
Tapati - Deity of Fire. Makes sense. In hindi, we say, if someone is feeling warm (fever), we say “voh tap raha(rahi) hai” as in he or she is gaining fever. Or, if youre just feeling hot, “mein tap raha hoon.” In gujarati, “Taap pushkar chhe” as in, it’s excessively hot here!
Thanks!
This video is truly FANTASTIC, thank you for your care and effort.
I've always had a particular fascination with the Scythians, and all the sub groups that are often lumped together. I've read and watched quite a bit about them yet I can tell this is probably the best video description of them I've seen so far. Only 6min in and I'm already thrilled that you've covered and explained the nuances that I see a lot of others get confused or caught up on when talking about the Scythians. Great work
Appreciate this positive feedback
The best documentary on the subject there is. Compliments. I hope you will continue the topic and then make a series on Indo-Iranian peoples.
Can you please do some research and hopefully a video on the Dacian culture, which to my knowledge they are a Celtic, Sarmatian, Scythian, Thracian culture. The territory they inhabited has been continuously inhabited from ~6000 BC, which makes them a very interesting topic, in my opinion.
Great content, Best of luck!
One of my favourite sights is the flax in bloom.
Your documentaries are truly wonderful and give so much food for thought, thank you for condensing and conveying such valuable information. I feel like watching it again immediately.
And thank you for calling that animal "elk"
Aitäh! Thank you for another great video
The day you guys associate Pashtuns to Saka almost all mystery around them will be solved. I am a Pashtun, all of these things sound so familiar in such strange ways.
Pashtuns are Iranians, but if you tell this to Pashtuns, some of them get absolutely mad, but its true. There are many Iranian ethnic groups, and Pashtun is one of them. If you're a Pashtun, and believe you came from Jews, then you cannot claim this Iranian heritage like Scythians, because Jews are not Iranic peoples. Some Pashtuns know they are Iranian, and are proud of it. Like Persians come Parthians, Medes, Bactrians, Tajiks come from Bactrians, Scythians, Sogdians, and Kurds come from Medes, and so on, and those are all ancient Iranian tribes, and they all spoke ancient Iranian languages, and all these people still speak Iranian languages like Persian, Pashto, Kurdish. I think some Pashtuns get mad because they think you're taking away their Afghan heritage. If the country Iran was still called Persia, I don't think Pashtuns would get offended by saying they are Iranian peoples.
STJ is one of the best youtube channels of any category.
Once again you've managed to be detailed and comprehensive without being confusing. Great work! 👍
Here's to hoping this blows up. Your last three videos were important to me Tom but this was an excellent surprise. I had looked for documentaries on Scythians some time ago and couldn't find anything of such quality and depth.
Fingers crossed!
In Hungarian, the word „ANIMAL" (in Hungarian „ÁLLAT”) had several meanings until the 19th century. It also meant the word animal, but it also meant the state of something. In folk songs, the antlers of the stag reach up to the sky and are covered with the light of shining stars, candles or the sun. The magnificent stag connects heaven and earth. Shamans wear deer antlers because they have a stronger connection to the sky than other people.
In this video, at 46:32 we see a man turned into a horned man, that is, a man in a state of relationship with God.
There are also lilies on the tapestry, which represent God.
Which is why Moses and Alexander (Dhul Quarnan 'the horned one' in hadith') were depicted with horns.
@@mariussielcken This is absolutely true. Even in the Bronze Age there are people in helmets with long horns. A man with horns is first found in the Trois-Fréres cave. It is estimated at 15,000-13,000 years before Christ. It is strange that this depiction also appears in Scythian times. Hungarians sing a folk prayer about a boy with horns, while rattling sticks. The Scythian rattling stick ends also sometimes show a deer, sometimes a cattle.
@@olahenci cernunnos=pan=loki=lucifer=Prometheus
Hmm interesting, any connection to the god Cernunnos?
@mariussielcken Dhul Qarnayn (meaning the One with Two Horns in Arabic) was once thought to be Alexander the great, with the two horns representing his unification of Greece and his conquest of Persia, but many now think he is supposed to be Cyrus the great, considering his importance in the Bible as well as being thought to be a monotheist.
Much appreciated and actually revealed more than I've read on this subject. High quality all round!
This was a good one. Dense, needs a rewatch for sure, but damn it was informative (and very entertaining). Thanks Thomas!
The last time I've seen an ad that actually appealed to me was probably toy commercials as a kid. I love linen.
Thank you sir, absolutely outstanding! I have been reading about the Scythians and how their art styles have influenced the old Nordic culture. It`s all so incredibly interlocked, not just Indic but even Mesopotamia and Egypt. Shall most certainly look into your work. Well done!
What an incredible video! one of the few channels about Indo-Europeans that does a good job ❤
This is one of your most important videos … it links everything… immediate re-watch, thank you 🙏
Finally some good SCYTHIAN content, thank you brother of the North.
You really outdid yourself on this one, loads of information here. What a treasure..
Keep on kicking ass StJ.
You are my favorite archaeology channel! I have been watching you since I was a stoner in jr. college. Now I am in the 1st year of my masters in archaeology. Thank you for your work! Keep up the good fight Aryama!
Best of luck!
@@Survivethejive thank you sir
The thumbnail art definitely worked for getting my attention.....lol
The part about crossdressing and Siberian influence - shamans usually impersonate the spirit that they are represnting. This is preserved in some Tibetan rituals as well. The shaman is meant to be representing a living female deity. It is unlikely there was any sexual context behind that.
‘Taap’ (soft T like Tapati) still means warmth in many indic languages descended from Sanskrit
“Teplo” - Russian
Thank you for your continued contribution to the pagan/heathen/polytheist community, we appreciate it Tom, we need more men and women adding to this growing body of work/revival.
This is the first time I actually understood the whole story thank you now that makes sense
Just discovered this channel. Love it. You are thorough and shed light on these obscure, yet significant topics. Cannot wait to binge the rest of your videos. Thank you!
It's worth noting that there are clear instructions on how to perform blood sacrifices-of both humans and animals-in the earliest Hindu texts, particularly the Rigveda.
i covered some of these in the horse sacrifice vid
@@Survivethejive but in Upanishad it was banned
I think Upanishad or Vedantas are most amazing philosophical text ideas of indo aryan of all time,
I doubt that the Rigveda promotes human sacrifice.
@@Mr.Vitality it does
@@Survivethejivean you provide the verses?
As far as I’m aware, purushmedha is mentioned in the Yajurveda. The later texts of Shatapatha Brahmana which itself came as a retaliation to Sramanic Buddhist and Jains “Ahimsa”, openly condemned the practice and advocated for the release of to be victims. Later Upanishads and Bhagvat Purana alo uphold the ban and condemn it again.
Those Alans that were described in the beginning of the video are the same Alans who ruled Spain! On the other side of the continent!
I feel like Iranian and Germanic peoples have spread so much farther than people realize
At one point in history, the Iranic branch were the most widespread and numerous of all Indo-Europeans. They were also the last to hold onto the original nomadic nature of indo-european culture.
I feel it in my bones every time the "Steppe Expansion" track comes on.
Thank you Tom for this wonderful video. Well researched and magnificently made. I've been waiting for you to cover the Scythians and other Iranic steppe nomads and was not disappointed. I had been fascinated by this culture since reading the Conan the Barbarian comics when I was a kid, which had many Scythian motifs and influences.
Conan was a Cimmerian
@@Survivethejive Cimmerian is an Iranian peoples
I always rewatch your videos because I pick things up the second time round that I didn't notice the first, especially on subjects that I'm completely unfamiliar with, like Scythians. Thanks again for all of these high calibre documentaries
Your content is thick Tom! A man could watch your videos many times and still have to think again. It’s a rabbit hole. I love it
@Survivethejive What a music! I want to listen to them. Where can I find them?
Yeah his background music reminds of something very ancient and important
Hello. I am the author of one of the images you are using in this video. Feel honoured that other like and show my art, but could it be credited?
I am so sorry it wasn't credited. I thought all of them were? Which one is it?
Ah yes. I was given permission by Odinets the pale to use it and he said he owned it. I was going to credit Bendis but thought it was a typo in my notes from when i was talking about the goddess Bendis. I can't re edit and export the whole film now, but how about i share your art and link on my twitter of Telegram?
@@Survivethejive, Bendis is my pseudonym. Yes, you can. Thank you for the support.
t.me/survivethejive/4618
I have to say, having the time and opportunity to drink your first killed enemy blood during a battle is unlikely. Reminds me of how in the Iliad they tried on the armor of every great warrior they killed, in the midst of battle, and then went on fighting more.
One of my favorite documentaries done by you. Love the visuals too and the quality
I am proud of my Iranian(Iranic) ancestors. Especially after taking DNA tests, going back to the Neolithic era. I am ethnic Persian and cluster very close with other Iranic groups, particularly the Alans and pre-Indo-European Caucasian and Anatolian groups. I am happy to see Iranian and other Iranic peoples get more historical spotlight. Thank you.
I am afghan and i got mostly iranian dna and northern indian in my report and ironically some finnish as well. Chances are I have some scythian ancestry myself too.
@@balto9674 That’s awesome. You definitely have Scythian and Bactrian ancestry as they established the Indo-Scythian kingdom, as well as the Kushan Empire. Pashtuns are Iranic peoples too, while the Tajiks are west Iranic Persian peoples.
@@Arya_N700 Yeah I am an ethnic pashtun from both my parents but I can see that I have some heritage from them as they are all Iranic people’s. Even my hapologroup dna comes from the caucasus and iran mostly from tehran and isfahan province. These people are interesting since they were a mysterious and I know Sistan province in Afghanistan is known as Sakastan.
@@Arya_N700 Kushans were established by ethnic Tocharians
The Alans are largely Iranic by language only, as they descend mostly from G2a males. Tajiks though are Persianized Eastern Iranic people.
the Snake legged goddess is also known in early Taoism as the sister to Fuxi, the discoverer of the Bagua. Together, they brought the early North Chinese culture, known for grass skirts. Such grass skirts are also known in Siberian shamanic skirts, similar to the Algiz belled skirts as shamans also wear metal and mirrors to mimic thunder and lightning.
oh what a good day it is when a new survive the jive video drops
Once again, documentarian excellence. Where anthropology and the esoteric meet, I'll always be there. As always, you have my continued support.
Amazing production on this documentary! Thank you for all your hard work on this!
Another amazing video thank you! I've had a theory that the Saxons descend which descended from the Sicambri had themselves (at least partly) descended from Scythians (Saka) and Shakyas. If not then they all clearly share some of the same very indo European cultural aspects.
There is a sense of familiarity but enigmatic distance to central Asia, akin in some sense to that of the Great Plains of North America you recognise at some level.
Recognition extends to South America as well. This culture is of extreme antiquity and spans the entire globe!
Agree especially from a north western perspective, Are you Irish?
That's because, although STJ tends to keep them all separate as individual cultures, they all came from a common root stock of people, these cultures are separate and unique but also connected as branches to a trunk. These "root" people traveled across the world using boats and seeded their early cultures, and genes, everywhere. Oceans are not true barriers but rather travel "highways" as it is easier to travel by boat than traverse mountain peaks or deserts. However, this theory of a common seed people is usually against many archaeologists' theories whom prefer to keep most atomized.
great episode as always! I have been intrigued by scythians for long. I wondered if you would lay more light upon the Indian scythians known as "saka/shaka" in Sanskrit. They have an important relevance even to modern India as the official calendar of India adopted by the government after Independence is the one started by a saka king. It is called the "saka samvat". Saka samvat in addition to vikram samvat are two important calendars of hinduism. India follows saka samvat while Nepal follows the older vikram samvat which is based on king Vikramaditya. You will find saka calendar date mentioned on all Indian government announcements, gazettes and parliament (sansad) proceedings. Additionally, while tapati is indeed a river, the meaning of the word "tap" continues to be heat/burning in sanskrit/hindi. It gives rise to words "taap" meaning heat, "taapmaan" meaning temperature, as well as "tapasya" meaning burning in the practice of austerity, hard work/meditation.
very interesting, thanks
You may also know that the group of kshatriyas/warriors from the Saka group were introduced into Hinduism as the Agnivanshi Rajputs. Agnivanshi meaning descendents of Fire. So the Hindu priests knew about the belief system of the Sakas.
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Maga brahmin were related to saka people,they were sun worshipper.early Buddhist text "Mahabivasha" showed that these maga Brahmin were barbarian,related to scythinans,had maintain illicit sexual relation with own family members like incest.modern day they r mostly living in uttarpradesh,up,bihar,odisha.maximum rape happens there by tgese ppl.
@@user-vy5uy9fo8pbut rajput claim ancestry of ancient kshatriyas, they think even Gupta rulers were rajputs lol
Last week I was just searching RUclips for SurviveTheJive videos on Scythians. Thanks for reading my mind and making this awesome video. Much love STJ, and Stay #VeryIndoEuropean
Clearly this Channel is very important, filling a huge gap. Thank you for so much work!! It is bridging a gap in the past of Vedic indo-euro culture. It is a work truly bringing east & west closer in troubled times. Blessings on the Producer and on all honest & peaceful visitors☆
Thank you! Great video. Surprisingly a lot of proto-iranic words I see in finnish language. For example, "taivas" (similar to proto-iranic *daywás) means "sky" in finnish.
Yes. Finnish and other Uralic languages have iranic loan words, likely from Scythians
@@Survivethejive "Goths came from Sweden but they mixed with steppe people like the Huns who has scythian ancestry" .... (your own quote) suggests it is the other way around. The Aryans came over into the Danube and then to the steppes per their legends. Runes etc They inter-related with Sumer, Akkadians and Gutians etc
The records will afterward prove bloodlines, after a very great catastrophe/deluge, then spread from the steppes/Urals, we need to wake up! We even rely on corded ware as to 'where they went and from which area' ??? These people were very advanced in foundry, we can tell by these images.
oof I love the changes in the video editing there!
Glad you like it!
I know I have commented this once before on a video of yours. In reference to the stag: The twins Hunor and Magor who were the sons of Menrot a mythical giant, were hunting one day when they saw a white stag, they followed it across various landscapes until it lead them to a land they would populate with their respective races the Huns, and Magyar. The stag was obviously important to them, as well as the divine twin motif.
There are many Scythian links to Hungarians. For instance in many Hungarian folk tales there are 3 brothers or sisters and the youngest of the 3 is always the most successful who triumphs over their older siblings who gang up on them. This appears in the video where the youngest of the Scythian brothers is the strongest. The Sword of Mars was also carried by kings of Hungary, at least a sabre which they claimed belonged to Attila the Hun which he obtained after defeating the Scythians.
Interestingly the germanic divine horse twins called Alcis and this actually means elk so maybe they were elk twins
I thought it was the White Saker Falcon?
Greetings from the Ural region and an area close to the Sintashta Culture! Thank you very much for your work.
Brilliant synthesis and analysis. Raising my head-dress to you.
This ought to be very interesting. I will come back latter to watch it, due to the lack of time at the moment. I am glad and thankful to everyone who opens the topic of Scythians in scientific way. Thank You! :)
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@@MagnusOffical I always enjoy when i make someone's day and make them laugh and be happy :) You're welcome.
I like their clothes...
I think we should revive it in Central Asia.
Me too
@@Survivethejive I did see many European medieval clothes which are reminding me about Scythian culture.
So basically Scythians descent from European populations which migrated again to Asia and mixed with Native BMAC and Yaz cultures to create Indo Iranian group is it right?
Thank you very much Tom, I’ve taken a little time to get through this.
I particularly appreciate the information about the balbal statues, that has been helpful in my own work.
I really appreciate your research and enthusiasm on this topic-it's brilliantly explained! Thank you so much for sharing these insights, Survive the Jive. As an Indo-Aryan from central Nepal, I’ve always been curious about the cultures my ancestors practiced, and your work has been incredibly enlightening!
You are so welcome!
Excellent as always. Despite having read and watched a fair bit about the scythians, having this summary style video benefited me.
I am interested in Scythians and their origins and history for more than 20 years and this is one of the best studies i have ever seen on this subject, thank you so much for making this great video
Fantastic video. Great effort, thanks.
The connections, through mythology and language, of Europe and Western Asia are astounding. The part about the fire/sun diety being female reminded me of the Norse goddess of the sun, Sol. Your video is wonderful.
Wow, this deserves a million views.
The Goddess from Kelermes scythian mirror is definitely Potnia Theron. It is amazing that you can find many almost identical images of her in ancient Greek, Etruscan, Minoian and Mycenaean art. There are also similar images of the Goddess in Mesopotamia and Egypt . According to a theory, the figure represents the goddess Artemis, which sounds very close to Artimpasa by the way. I think Potnia Theron "the Mistress of Animals" is a very big and underappreciated topic that deserves more attention.
Just because there are animals you assume it's a foreign greek goddess? Even when i explained what happened to scythians who worshipped greek goddesses and i explained how important animals are in their art??
@@Survivethejive Yes, that's odd. I know. But why she looks almost identical? Same figure, same wings, same clothes, same position of holding animals ..even face and hair style. Perhaps "potnia theron francois vase" is a good example. Please google it and see for yourself. And there are many of those images. Maybe is not even of greek origin... Do you think those images can not have any connection somehow?
@@Survivethejive "Artemis" is not of Greek origin, even though she ascended to Olympian level fame. The etymology of her name is unclear. Perhaps Artimpasa was the root...?
I am a Jat from India, a descendant of Scythians.
Shut up hun
Due to the interst I have in all the STJ videos, while I was watching this I was extremely serious. Then that shaman suddenly said *IT'S MA'AM!* and I had to pause the video until I finished to laugh.
Perfect work as usual ;) Always onoring our ancestors exposing them to the public.
Honor our ancestors, yes, indeed.
Hail. Also, I like the profile pic 😉⚡⚡
Jive can't help but shitpost
@@dirksharp9876 More than shitposting it's just a bit of meming, it's always healthy.
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As an American viewer, I want to make a small correction. We recognize Elks and Mooses as distinct animals. The main distinction comes in the shape of their horns. An Elk has longer, more slender horns that branch apart further from the head. A Moose has horns that are largely more shovel-shaped. North America as a whole has four subspecies of Elk: the Roosevelt Elk, the Tule Elk, the Rocky Mountain Elk, and the Manitboa Elk. The Moose/Elk situation is actually a matter of Europeans grouping the animals North Americans call Mooses into the same family as Elks.
Otherwise, amazing video as always!
You incorrectly recognise them as separate animals because the thing you call an elk is not an elk and the thing you call a moose is an elk
The word elk has applied to what you call mooses for over 2000 years
The Scythian material culture is widespread over the Eurasian steppe and much of it may not correspond to Iranian-speakers as we know that Ugric and Turcic cultures at least shared the same style of living and material culture. The late Avars of the 8th century for example had a widespread representation of beasts of prey and they most probably spoke Turcic at least according to the few inscriptions that we can read. Scythian sites situated like Filippovka perhaps belonged to Ugric speaking people.
I’ve always maintained the Scythians hold the key to understanding PIE culture. Good that some, Cunliffe and yourself included, agree.
Just wondering, why have you maintained that? What sources or information makes you think so?
@@kathrinat9824 From what we know of the Indo-Europeans, the Scythians exhibit the most ancient characteristics in common with them, our ancestors.
Like all European groups, they became influenced by the native peoples they encountered, just as the Indo-Europeans in the West took on much from the earlier farming people, which influenced the development of the Celts; the northern groups were influenced by the Sami of Finland, whose shamanism had a shaping effect on Norse religion; the Hellens were strongly influenced by the Mycenaeans.
However, the Scythians occupied much of the territory of their (and our) original Proto Indo-European homelands.
That, and if we want to actually see a semi-nomadic European group, we need look no further than them to understand what that might look like.
For my purposes, reconstructing ancient Celtic culture, it helps very much to gain a sense of perspective by learning about the Scythians, so I have been researching Tabiti, Papaos, Artimpasa and the like for many years.
@@thegreenmage6956 so we didn't have our own cultures, customs languages etc.. people are making it sound like as if we were completely ignorant and didn't develop anything on our own. wtf?
@@thegreenmage6956 and if it weren't for non Europeans, we wouldn't have languages? this makes no sense.
@@thegreenmage6956 I completely agree about Scythians being a window into PIE. Are you trying to reconstruct ancient Celtic belief? Would you have recommendations for how to / where to learn about Scythian beliefs from?
Wow, great video. Intrigued by seeing the name Tapati as it is a very very popular name in Bengal(a state in India).
Bengalis are an Indo-Aryan ethno linguistic group with a very complex genetic make up. Mainly recognisable ancestory of Bengalis are:-
1)Proto Indo european with Steppe ancestry. Mostly Brahmin and Kayastha in bengal society
2)South Asian Hunter Gatherers
3)Australo-asiatic peoples from South East Asia. Especially Munda people with rich cultural heritage.
4)West Asian Hunter-gatherer (dravidians)
5)Tibetian people from East asia
Steppe people carried the name introduced it in Bengal.
I heard that only 9% of Bengali genetic is from Indic peoples
Indo European were destroyed by us
Europe and steppe ansectry have no connection with india
Outstanding attention to detail here. Nuance levels off the charts. Up there with youtubers like Fortress of Lugh. Easily earned my sub.
This channel deserves so much more views man
This is fantastic. After discovering Asha Logos I’m definitely searching for as much Scythian content as I can find.
Good that you like it! However be aware that Scottish people have no Scythian ancestry and Oera Linda is a fake book
@Lill Frigg Celtic is not Iranic
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Thank you for making such informative videos. I have been so fascinated by Indo-European history and the spread of culture and religions. I always look forward to your videos!
Super wellbrought, glad we got to share in it because of you. Thanx a bunch big G.
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42:02 A similar motif to the four treasures of the Dagda. Bríd also being a highly venerated Goddess of the hearth. Ó Gríofa or Griffin is a popular second name in Ireland. You also have Griffith in Wales.
I keep seeing associations that link Gaelic religion and culture with that of the Eurasian Steppe and areas such as Phonecia