You should not speak about their language, or their ancestors language, because its still not certain. But, all of the nation who call themselves the descendants of the Schythians are speaking Turkic or Uralic, or some other weird languages, but very few of them are Indoeuropen.
So Hitler had the right to claim ownershi of the Swastika? And since he was kind to Ukrainians , was polite and civil to them (according to my grandmother) , Ukraine can too?
Hey. I'm an Ossetian from the Republic of South Ossetia and glad to see videos like this. We consider scythians as our ancestors (at least by language). So your videos are awesome. Thank you.
@@Morworld lmfao indians are not iranic, iranians are iranic, you don't know what the words mean. And the scythians spoke eastern iranic. Please don't waste my time.
(1:03:52) As a Texan and a huntsman I must correct this: The difference between Elk and Moose is one our European ancestor settlers brought from their own European culture in which "Elk" was the word used to refer to the European Red Deer, distinct from the smaller subspecies of European Roe Deer. Likewise, in America we have smaller deer like whitetail deer, mule deer, and pronghorn antelope which are distinct from the much larger Elk deer. The North American Moose which lives farther north than many Elk herds has a distinct phenotypical shape just like the Asian Moose including uniquely webbed antlers, unique extended snout/muzzle, and an oddly shaped larger body. We Americans call a moose, a moose, and it is very much what the rest of the world thinks of when they refer to a moose. Like the Asian Moose, it's the largest of the deer family and generally doesn't travel below a certain latitude. We call an Elk an Elk, because Elk are a smaller subspecies typically found farther south in the Pacific Basin and Rocky Mountains, while Moose are usually at higher latitudes beginning at the latitude of the Adirondacks, Dakotas, Yellowstone, and Washington (State) near the border with Canada. Elk are also known as "Wapiti" among the Natives. I believe it's the Comanche and Shoshone word for the North American Elk, but it may be a word other tribes use as well. Also of note, Moose tend to be solitary in their nomadic movements, while elk and other deer tend to roam in herds, leading to people in Canada and Alaska sometimes happening to come upon a lone Moose in the woods. Such an encounter can be dangerous, even in a vehicle as they'll charge sometimes. Elk will always run away from humans like other deer.
Didn’t you know that US usage is exactly opposite from European usage? 😊 In British English what you over there call a moose is referred to as an elk, Elch in German, älg in Swedish, elg in Danish, aso. As the species is indigenous in Europe and used to be present as far south as the alps up until around 1700 when the swamps were drained by humans, the European usage is the original one and somehow got switched around in the colonies. Your elk is our deer, which literally means animal. Internet: Although the elk (A. alces) was abundant, settlers did not identify it with the elk of Europe. Instead, they began calling it a moose, using a word borrowed from an Algonquian language of eastern North America. This left the name elk still available, and the English settlers gave it to a large deer, C.
"So now you know a bit more about the Skythians..." A bit?! This is the absolute most in-depth video I've ever seen about them. My knowledge about them increased 100 fold.
That is a shame. I would suggest looking at Jason Reza Jorjani’s work. He goes into a lot more depth. The Nart sagas are also not hardly influenced by Zoroastrianism at all, and you should try to find whatever you can by John Colarusso on the topic. This video is absolute shit…
You should watch Russian doc. films and videos about Scythians.....they...( Russuan historians, archeologists, paleo-lynvists, anthropologists, ecy.and their foc.filmakers have the richest material about the topic, both in terms of quality and quantity.... but, yes...this video is probably one of the best from thd Western part, leaning outside of Russian domain. Bravo !
This is some of the most compelling and well put together ancient history content on RUclips! I love the haplogroup info and renderings. Beautiful work!
@@Survivethejive whats with all the crazy colours and patterns those artists clad their scythians in? they look like theyre straight out of a DMT jester-space...?
Glad to see that you used a video by Ivan Semyan, showing the horse chariot! He was one of the professors at my university, and I also studied with an archaeologist who discovered Arkaim! Greetings from Urals!
This is an absolute gem among all the videos about the ancient world in RUclips ! Getting into details and mentioning all possible connections of every single information... IT'S JUST 💎
A lot of people will be angered by claims that white people lived as far as Mongolia, India and Iran, and call it historical revisionism, but have no problem admitting that the Asiatic Huns lived as far as Western Europe and Scandinavia. If one is true, why can't both be true?
@@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 the Aryans were/are WHITE. not the dark inhabitants of India today. the caste system originated with us Europeans. the Hindu caste system is a corruption of an older Aryan/white iteration. The older pagan societal systems of Aryan civilizations are not just more meritocratic and fluid in nature, but also place a lot more importance on the soul or spiritual advancement of an individual in terms of which "caste" they should be a part of. And a lot of the White Hindu Aryans of South Asia, all racially miscegenated with the Brown Australoid Dravidians from the South.
Indians don’t have a problem with the idea that white coloured peoples lived that Far East. The issue is the idea that our ancestors were whites or that the Aryans invaded india to establish Vedic culture.
Extremely accurate, as far as I can tell, And very informative. thanks and keep up the good work! As an Iranian and fan of history I can also allude to the ancient and famous book of “shah name”, which is Iranian National epic, and it’s main hero is a schytian warrior called Rostam. You can infer a lot about their habits and lifestyle there.
@@Survivethejive Indeed, Rostam was a saka from sakastana (today's Sistan, south eastern Iran). And the later parts of the shahnameh essentially explore the dialectic between zoroastrianism and more pagan nomadic beliefs
Really appreciate this documentary, I'm Eastern European ancestry, my bloodline was closely connected to horses and traveled East back in past, while watching this i feel closely connected to Scythian culture.
Thank you for your continued contribution to the pagan/heathen/polytheist community, we appreciate it Tom, we need more men and women adding to this growing body of work/revival.
You are my favorite archaeology channel! I have been watching you since I was a stoner in jr. college. Now I am in the 1st year of my masters in archaeology. Thank you for your work! Keep up the good fight Aryama!
Those Alans that were described in the beginning of the video are the same Alans who ruled Spain! On the other side of the continent! I feel like Iranian and Germanic peoples have spread so much farther than people realize
At one point in history, the Iranic branch were the most widespread and numerous of all Indo-Europeans. They were also the last to hold onto the original nomadic nature of indo-european culture.
The part about crossdressing and Siberian influence - shamans usually impersonate the spirit that they are represnting. This is preserved in some Tibetan rituals as well. The shaman is meant to be representing a living female deity. It is unlikely there was any sexual context behind that.
Here's to hoping this blows up. Your last three videos were important to me Tom but this was an excellent surprise. I had looked for documentaries on Scythians some time ago and couldn't find anything of such quality and depth.
Another amazing video thank you! I've had a theory that the Saxons descend which descended from the Sicambri had themselves (at least partly) descended from Scythians (Saka) and Shakyas. If not then they all clearly share some of the same very indo European cultural aspects.
Thank you Tom for this wonderful video. Well researched and magnificently made. I've been waiting for you to cover the Scythians and other Iranic steppe nomads and was not disappointed. I had been fascinated by this culture since reading the Conan the Barbarian comics when I was a kid, which had many Scythian motifs and influences.
I greatly appreciate you pronouncing the romanized C sound as Greek Kappa, rather than the c-sedilla (ç) one English inherited from the French; as well as using the older form of upsilon that was corrupted into an i sound, even in modern Greek.
@@Survivethejive unfortunately in modern Greek the pronunciation of iota has replaced many other vowels like epsilon and upsilon, as well as digraphs. These are all pronounced like "i" iota: ι, η, υ, ει, οι, υι
When υ was pronounced as /y/, θ was pronounced as an aspirated /t/, not a th sound. It's unreasonable to expect English speakers to pronounce a letter with a sound that is absent in their natural phonology, and then turn around and use modern English phonology for other letters. Either pronounce it as the Ancient Greeks did, or use the most appropriate English sounds.
Due to the interst I have in all the STJ videos, while I was watching this I was extremely serious. Then that shaman suddenly said *IT'S MA'AM!* and I had to pause the video until I finished to laugh. Perfect work as usual ;) Always onoring our ancestors exposing them to the public.
I have to say, having the time and opportunity to drink your first killed enemy blood during a battle is unlikely. Reminds me of how in the Iliad they tried on the armor of every great warrior they killed, in the midst of battle, and then went on fighting more.
I am proud of my Iranian(Iranic) ancestors. Especially after taking DNA tests, going back to the Neolithic era. I am ethnic Persian and cluster very close with other Iranic groups, particularly the Alans and pre-Indo-European Caucasian and Anatolian groups. I am happy to see Iranian and other Iranic peoples get more historical spotlight. Thank you.
I am afghan and i got mostly iranian dna and northern indian in my report and ironically some finnish as well. Chances are I have some scythian ancestry myself too.
@@balto9674 That’s awesome. You definitely have Scythian and Bactrian ancestry as they established the Indo-Scythian kingdom, as well as the Kushan Empire. Pashtuns are Iranic peoples too, while the Tajiks are west Iranic Persian peoples.
@@Arya_N700 Yeah I am an ethnic pashtun from both my parents but I can see that I have some heritage from them as they are all Iranic people’s. Even my hapologroup dna comes from the caucasus and iran mostly from tehran and isfahan province. These people are interesting since they were a mysterious and I know Sistan province in Afghanistan is known as Sakastan.
Wow, great video. Intrigued by seeing the name Tapati as it is a very very popular name in Bengal(a state in India). Bengalis are an Indo-Aryan ethno linguistic group with a very complex genetic make up. Mainly recognisable ancestory of Bengalis are:- 1)Proto Indo european with Steppe ancestry. Mostly Brahmin and Kayastha in bengal society 2)South Asian Hunter Gatherers 3)Australo-asiatic peoples from South East Asia. Especially Munda people with rich cultural heritage. 4)West Asian Hunter-gatherer (dravidians) 5)Tibetian people from East asia Steppe people carried the name introduced it in Bengal.
The Goddess from Kelermes scythian mirror is definitely Potnia Theron. It is amazing that you can find many almost identical images of her in ancient Greek, Etruscan, Minoian and Mycenaean art. There are also similar images of the Goddess in Mesopotamia and Egypt . According to a theory, the figure represents the goddess Artemis, which sounds very close to Artimpasa by the way. I think Potnia Theron "the Mistress of Animals" is a very big and underappreciated topic that deserves more attention.
Just because there are animals you assume it's a foreign greek goddess? Even when i explained what happened to scythians who worshipped greek goddesses and i explained how important animals are in their art??
@@Survivethejive Yes, that's odd. I know. But why she looks almost identical? Same figure, same wings, same clothes, same position of holding animals ..even face and hair style. Perhaps "potnia theron francois vase" is a good example. Please google it and see for yourself. And there are many of those images. Maybe is not even of greek origin... Do you think those images can not have any connection somehow?
@@Survivethejive "Artemis" is not of Greek origin, even though she ascended to Olympian level fame. The etymology of her name is unclear. Perhaps Artimpasa was the root...?
great episode as always! I have been intrigued by scythians for long. I wondered if you would lay more light upon the Indian scythians known as "saka/shaka" in Sanskrit. They have an important relevance even to modern India as the official calendar of India adopted by the government after Independence is the one started by a saka king. It is called the "saka samvat". Saka samvat in addition to vikram samvat are two important calendars of hinduism. India follows saka samvat while Nepal follows the older vikram samvat which is based on king Vikramaditya. You will find saka calendar date mentioned on all Indian government announcements, gazettes and parliament (sansad) proceedings. Additionally, while tapati is indeed a river, the meaning of the word "tap" continues to be heat/burning in sanskrit/hindi. It gives rise to words "taap" meaning heat, "taapmaan" meaning temperature, as well as "tapasya" meaning burning in the practice of austerity, hard work/meditation.
You may also know that the group of kshatriyas/warriors from the Saka group were introduced into Hinduism as the Agnivanshi Rajputs. Agnivanshi meaning descendents of Fire. So the Hindu priests knew about the belief system of the Sakas.
Maga brahmin were related to saka people,they were sun worshipper.early Buddhist text "Mahabivasha" showed that these maga Brahmin were barbarian,related to scythinans,had maintain illicit sexual relation with own family members like incest.modern day they r mostly living in uttarpradesh,up,bihar,odisha.maximum rape happens there by tgese ppl.
@@kathrinat9824 From what we know of the Indo-Europeans, the Scythians exhibit the most ancient characteristics in common with them, our ancestors. Like all European groups, they became influenced by the native peoples they encountered, just as the Indo-Europeans in the West took on much from the earlier farming people, which influenced the development of the Celts; the northern groups were influenced by the Sami of Finland, whose shamanism had a shaping effect on Norse religion; the Hellens were strongly influenced by the Mycenaeans. However, the Scythians occupied much of the territory of their (and our) original Proto Indo-European homelands. That, and if we want to actually see a semi-nomadic European group, we need look no further than them to understand what that might look like. For my purposes, reconstructing ancient Celtic culture, it helps very much to gain a sense of perspective by learning about the Scythians, so I have been researching Tabiti, Papaos, Artimpasa and the like for many years.
@@thegreenmage6956 so we didn't have our own cultures, customs languages etc.. people are making it sound like as if we were completely ignorant and didn't develop anything on our own. wtf?
@@thegreenmage6956 I completely agree about Scythians being a window into PIE. Are you trying to reconstruct ancient Celtic belief? Would you have recommendations for how to / where to learn about Scythian beliefs from?
Clearly this Channel is very important, filling a huge gap. Thank you for so much work!! It is bridging a gap in the past of Vedic indo-euro culture. It is a work truly bringing east & west closer in troubled times. Blessings on the Producer and on all honest & peaceful visitors☆
42:02 A similar motif to the four treasures of the Dagda. Bríd also being a highly venerated Goddess of the hearth. Ó Gríofa or Griffin is a popular second name in Ireland. You also have Griffith in Wales. I keep seeing associations that link Gaelic religion and culture with that of the Eurasian Steppe and areas such as Phonecia
I watched this 3 times to refresh, take notes, etc. Great video, as always. For some reason though, Surya's face with the serious cheeks and chin crack me up now at 21:37
Scythians were hugely significant in the first millennia BCE and contemporaries of the Ancient Persians and Greeks. They were nomadic people like the fierce Mongols 1500 years later excellent at horse riding and shooting arrows on horseback. The Persians and Greeks could never pin them down to defeat them because they were always on the move in mostly Pontic-Caspian region north of the Black Sea. Like the Yamnaya their remnants are their burial mounds with lots of gold which are now mostly in Petersburg museums.
Excellent work, enthralling, and truly a pleasure to listen to and watch. If one day we should ever have a Hollywood of our own what great heroics might one day be produced in the tales of our Gods and Ancestors!
I love your videos. I hoping to see a video on the Roman religion and their gods. Roger Woodard wrote a book on Indo-European Sacred Space comparing Vedic and Roman religion.
The Uppsala mounds used both cremation and the mound. The fire was so well constructed to purposefully preserve the bones and armor, much like Loki's feast competition.
I've noticed the cultures of the Eurasian Steppes and the Circumpolar have much in common. Interestingly, here in the US there were early Native American mound builders in the Ohio and Mississippi river valleys. Not surprising, really. But way cool.
@@Lee-jh6cr yes, the “circumpolar context” is VERY interesting. I’m working on a project to show how Chinese medicine can be explained in mythic terms. For example; the liver (wood, housing Thunder) and spleen (Rock) channels reflect Thor’s fight with Hrungnir in that spleen is “above” (more “anterior”) to liver in the upper leg, but they switch in the lower leg. So Thialfi told the giant that Thor would attack from below and suggested the giant should stand on his shield. The giant is also considered “effeminate” and afraid for creating a proxy clay man animated with a mare’s heart. Gall bladder is like Thialfi and Stomach is a Yang organ, but Spleen and Liver are yin organs…remember how Thir dressed up as Freya, sacrificing his masculinity while being the “most masculine” of the gods? Similarly Freyr was portrayed as less than courageous by Loki. The Bagua is 8 trigrams, like the runes are 3 ættir, and Sleipnir has 8 legs while being the only horse that can reach Hel and return and the Bagua was found in the 8 footprints of the water horse (turtle sacrifice) on the shores of the river. I can also use several Norse myth themes and the Bagua to show how the creation story fits with the Plains sweat lodge ritual as Stone Boy is Buri/Brahmā/Bromios/B’reishit. It’s fascinating.
I know you prob get asked this a lot, but it'd be really cool to see more stuff on the Celts. Information on the religion of the Celts is SORELY lacking on youtube, with Fortress of Lugh being pretty much the only one doing relatively high quality videos on it. I also saw that your previous video on the Celts and the Irish are some of your top ones on your channel.
Ah yes. I was given permission by Odinets the pale to use it and he said he owned it. I was going to credit Bendis but thought it was a typo in my notes from when i was talking about the goddess Bendis. I can't re edit and export the whole film now, but how about i share your art and link on my twitter of Telegram?
After several interruptions, we finished it! They liked it! We found it difficult to consume due to the unfamiliarity of the topic and how condensed it is but we liked it all the same. Very interesting.
@@fizzlecracks3669 thanks for the feedback. I know i really should try to space info out a bit but it's so long as it is. Very hard to get the info in and also not make it too long
OT: Have you seen "Pandorum"? It is well made sci-fi horror that was meant to be first of 3 movies. That depicts the Indoeuropean Sky Father and the Indoeuropean Earth Mother when they were young. Had it been successful the later movies were meant to show the veneration and transmutations of the original deities. The movie also has other themes, such as the Sky Father being the unifier, combatting not only the outgroup but also nihilism in his own tribe.
great video about them, i never knew about Scythians up until playing Rome 1 : Total War (which their mounted archers were really good), also damn that female Scythian archer has some nice assets in that thumbnail
The Scythian material culture is widespread over the Eurasian steppe and much of it may not correspond to Iranian-speakers as we know that Ugric and Turcic cultures at least shared the same style of living and material culture. The late Avars of the 8th century for example had a widespread representation of beasts of prey and they most probably spoke Turcic at least according to the few inscriptions that we can read. Scythian sites situated like Filippovka perhaps belonged to Ugric speaking people.
Great video! One note - not all indoeuropean-iranian religions have male hearth deity - baltic religion fire = Ugnis can be male, but Deity of fire Ugne/Agne is female. It's incredible how similar it is to the Indian Agni god!
Yamnaya - Corded Ware - Fatyanovo - Abashevo - Sintashta-Srubnaya - Andronovo-Fedorovo - Karasuk - Scythians ... That sounds good. The time is approaching when, thanks to new genetic and archaeological discoveries, it will be possible to produce a large picture showing the affiliations of all the Indo-European cultures and peoples, from the Yamnaya to the first historical states. I hope someone will make a nice poster out of it. I'll hang it in my bedroom and burn some clarified butter in front of it. Very Indo-European.
@Makin Shooties Not a single first hand source says that. In fact there are no accounts of Scythians and Germanics from the same period anywhere. They are not the same people at all. Byzantines and later Xians referred to some Germanic people as Scythians out of ignorance
Haplogroup U2 is an extremely old lineage, going back at least 40,000 years, when Homo sapiens first expanded from the Middle East into South Asia and Central Asia. Two of the oldest Homo sapiens DNA samples from Europe tested to date, a 37,000 and a 33,000-year old Cro-Magnons from the Kostenki site on the Don River in the Russia, both belonged to haplogroup U2. Scholars believe that this group, after migrating north, became the dominant lineage among the foragers who eventually settled in Central Asia and South Asia and became the Indo-Iranian groups. Slavs were farmers from the woodlands. They always settled near woodlands and rivers. Their houses, and even their larger structures were made of wood. Scythians were nomads from the plains. They used to inhabit the western parts of the Eurasian steppe. Furthermore, they spoke an eastern Iranic language. The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid. History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
As always, a phenomenal video. I would only add one thing. In America, we actually use the word "Moose" as the plural as well as the singular. e.g. "There is a moose over there. Watch out, there are a bunch of moose over there."
awesome I was just looking for something to get started learning about the religion of the scythians. something like this on slavic paganism from you would be super good as that topic is full of bad info
As an American viewer, I want to make a small correction. We recognize Elks and Mooses as distinct animals. The main distinction comes in the shape of their horns. An Elk has longer, more slender horns that branch apart further from the head. A Moose has horns that are largely more shovel-shaped. North America as a whole has four subspecies of Elk: the Roosevelt Elk, the Tule Elk, the Rocky Mountain Elk, and the Manitboa Elk. The Moose/Elk situation is actually a matter of Europeans grouping the animals North Americans call Mooses into the same family as Elks. Otherwise, amazing video as always!
Nice! I recently, after tracing my line back to early 17th century (southern) England (with a branch in the Channel Islands), learned that I am (y-haplogroup) E-S7461 (downstream from E-V13) and so, according to the prevailing theory such as the science stands, probably (as opposed to definitely) the offspring of one of the Thracians serving in Imperial Rome's Thracian units in Germany and Britain. Apparently some 20% of them did not return to their home province upon retirement and some portion of these took Brythonic wives and remained in Britain. Whatever the case, I've recently (re-)developed and interest in Thracians (after delving in Getic peoples, Dacians and Zalmoxis a few years back) and noticed the hat on a number of the images of these Scythians in your video; the "garden gnome hats", which I had recently come to believe was a Thracian style. Also the custom of tattooing, which Herodotus links to the Thracians, who he otherwise describes in terms almost identical to those of Tacitus in his description of the Germanic peoples, "Among the rest of the Thracians... The idler is most honoured, the tiller of the soil most contemned; he is held in highest honour who lives by war and foray. "These are the most notable of their usages. They worship no gods but Ares, Dionysus, and Artemis. But their princes, unlike the rest of their countrymen, worship Hermes above all gods and swear only by him, claiming him for their ancestor." - Herodotus (5th century BC) And from Tacitus, "During the intervals of war, they pass their time less in hunting than in a sluggish repose, divided between sleep and the feast. All the bravest of the warriors, committing the care of the house, the family affairs, and the lands, to the women, old men, and weaker part of the domestics, stupefy themselves in inaction" And, "Of the gods, Mercury is the principal object of their adoration" You should do a video on the Thracians and/or Zalmoxis, this latter of whom has much in common with Woden, eg. the rider motif, etc. etc.
"The aforesaid race of which I speak (the Goths) is known to have had Filimer as king while they remained in their first home in Scythia near Maeotis. In their second home, that is in the countries of Dacia, Thrace and Moesia, Zalmoxes reigned, whom many writers of annals mention as a man of remarkable learning in philosophy. Yet even before this they had a learned man Zeuta, and after him Dicineus; and the third was Zalmoxes of whom I have made mention above." - Jordanes, History of the Goths (6th century AD) Since the earliest times, the Celto-Germans (Bastarnae), the Goths, the Dacians and Getae, the Scythians, the Sarmatians, and the other Getaeic peoples, have all, be it directly or indirectly -- via the Scythians, the Getae or the Goths -- been tied to or otherwise conflated each with the other. And then we have the relation between such ethnonyms as the Gutones, the Goths, the Geats, and possibly the Jutes (as well as places like Jutland and Gotland, and ancestor-/deities as Gothus, Geat, Gaut) and that of the Getae and their ethnonymic relatives (eg. Tyragetae, Thyssagetae, Massagetae). If Jordanes conflated all of these fair horse-riders, their actual resemblance to one another certainly contributed to it.
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen. A fantasy author I follow and watch on twitter talks a lot about this too, and the overlap/homophily between vedic, greek, norse, and other cultures, all because of the evolution out of proto indo-european peoples/cultures, the language, and more. He's even talked about what you brought up - the Iranian and Vedic interesting take on one culture worshiping the Daevas as gods, and Asura as evil, but inverse in the Iranian.
fantastic work Mr. STJ as allways!. In my upcoming danish book "Cwen" i point out the clear connection between the Scythian /Sarmatian traditions and the North germanic, by following the Sarmatian emigration into North western Europe, from 100-400 AD. More than 5000 Sarmatian Horsemen are send to to England to guard Hadrians wall, while many Alanic clans settle in Frankia. Sarmatian/Alanic warrior graves have been found both in Holland, Germany and Polen, so its clear both from archaeology and written sources, than Scythian/Sarmatian cultures become an important part of both Slavic and Germanic cultures, during the migration era. Thank you again for your great effort to strengthen our indo-european heritage
If you haven’t read: The Scythian Empire by Christopher I Bekwith, you should. It’s a linguistic history of the Scythians and greater Iranic peoples, and especially focuses on East Iranic religions. You probably already read it.
I'm a Gilak, so I guess I'm partly Scythian😊 cause Amards and Tapurs who once lived in Gilan and our neighboring province, Mazandaran were Scythian tribes.
45:25 the barrow complex depicted is Bezvodivka observatory in Chernihiv Oblast, Ukraine. I have been there in 2018 for the summer solstice - I can say it was truly a remarkable experience filled with symbolism: before the sunrise I saw a meteor. There are many more barrows in Ukraine that I would like to visit, however muscovites are destroying such precious bits of prehistory.
This video is very interesting, as it shows the racial, cultural and religious mixtures in a wide region, the area inhabited by the Scythians. They are portrayed as a people on the periphery of the most advanced civilizations (Greek and Persian). But in fact the Scythians were at the center of the world and influenced adjacent cultures as much as they were influenced by them. If the Scythians had belonged to a culture that valued history (that recorded the past in writing) this people would have left us the particular way they saw themselves and other peoples.
The mysteries connect all indo european peoples & their descendents. They may take many forms but they are all of the same philosophy. The philosophy of 🔥.
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Dang, I was wondering what happened to "the Golden One"
Thank you for thinking outside the box and contributing to my sanity.
You should not speak about their language, or their ancestors language, because its still not certain. But, all of the nation who call themselves the descendants of the Schythians are speaking Turkic or Uralic, or some other weird languages, but very few of them are Indoeuropen.
So Hitler had the right to claim ownershi of the Swastika? And since he was kind to Ukrainians , was polite and civil to them (according to my grandmother) , Ukraine can too?
Scythian girl posts a picture in Instagram: "you guys like my new bow?"
OMGROFLMAO! This is the perfect comment for that thumbnail!
I legit had to have a short debate that this was a woman with one of my friends.... ^_^
Hey. I'm an Ossetian from the Republic of South Ossetia and glad to see videos like this. We consider scythians as our ancestors (at least by language). So your videos are awesome. Thank you.
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Is it True ? Because now days central Asian countries consider themselves to be Scythians.
@@Morworld only language changed, most central asians are iranian in descent, only kazakhs are very mixed
@@MorworldErr..Iranians are Iranic peoples and Indians are most definitely not Iranic.
@@Morworld lmfao indians are not iranic, iranians are iranic, you don't know what the words mean. And the scythians spoke eastern iranic. Please don't waste my time.
(1:03:52) As a Texan and a huntsman I must correct this: The difference between Elk and Moose is one our European ancestor settlers brought from their own European culture in which "Elk" was the word used to refer to the European Red Deer, distinct from the smaller subspecies of European Roe Deer. Likewise, in America we have smaller deer like whitetail deer, mule deer, and pronghorn antelope which are distinct from the much larger Elk deer. The North American Moose which lives farther north than many Elk herds has a distinct phenotypical shape just like the Asian Moose including uniquely webbed antlers, unique extended snout/muzzle, and an oddly shaped larger body. We Americans call a moose, a moose, and it is very much what the rest of the world thinks of when they refer to a moose. Like the Asian Moose, it's the largest of the deer family and generally doesn't travel below a certain latitude. We call an Elk an Elk, because Elk are a smaller subspecies typically found farther south in the Pacific Basin and Rocky Mountains, while Moose are usually at higher latitudes beginning at the latitude of the Adirondacks, Dakotas, Yellowstone, and Washington (State) near the border with Canada. Elk are also known as "Wapiti" among the Natives. I believe it's the Comanche and Shoshone word for the North American Elk, but it may be a word other tribes use as well. Also of note, Moose tend to be solitary in their nomadic movements, while elk and other deer tend to roam in herds, leading to people in Canada and Alaska sometimes happening to come upon a lone Moose in the woods. Such an encounter can be dangerous, even in a vehicle as they'll charge sometimes. Elk will always run away from humans like other deer.
Didn’t you know that US usage is exactly opposite from European usage? 😊 In British English what you over there call a moose is referred to as an elk, Elch in German, älg in Swedish, elg in Danish, aso.
As the species is indigenous in Europe and used to be present as far south as the alps up until around 1700 when the swamps were drained by humans, the European usage is the original one and somehow got switched around in the colonies.
Your elk is our deer, which literally means animal.
Internet: Although the elk (A. alces) was abundant, settlers did not identify it with the elk of Europe. Instead, they began calling it a moose, using a word borrowed from an Algonquian language of eastern North America. This left the name elk still available, and the English settlers gave it to a large deer, C.
"So now you know a bit more about the Skythians..."
A bit?! This is the absolute most in-depth video I've ever seen about them. My knowledge about them increased 100 fold.
And finally, we find someone who actually pronounces the name properly.
These people are the main antagonists in my Visigothic book series that I have written
That is a shame. I would suggest looking at Jason Reza Jorjani’s work. He goes into a lot more depth. The Nart sagas are also not hardly influenced by Zoroastrianism at all, and you should try to find whatever you can by John Colarusso on the topic. This video is absolute shit…
You should watch Russian doc. films and videos about Scythians.....they...( Russuan historians, archeologists, paleo-lynvists, anthropologists, ecy.and their foc.filmakers have the richest material about the topic, both in terms of quality and quantity....
but, yes...this video is probably one of the best from thd Western part, leaning outside of Russian domain. Bravo !
@@simonidastankovic2627 shame its difficult for westerners to reach into the russian domain.. especially now
This is some of the most compelling and well put together ancient history content on RUclips!
I love the haplogroup info and renderings.
Beautiful work!
Outstanding. Especially considering this is a One-Man-Channel.
Production value and Information are so stunning.
Wow, thank you! However i must thank all the artists who let me use their work
It's a big reason why I give him money on SubscribeStar!
@@Survivethejive whats with all the crazy colours and patterns those artists clad their scythians in? they look like theyre straight out of a DMT jester-space...?
@@rickdeckard1075 Because that's what the surviving clothing, art and saddles show to us: that they wore vibrant colors whenever they could.
Finally you made a Scythian video. I've been obsessed with them ever since I first found out about them.
i would attribute a large part of the Mystery of them to the very broadness of the term Scythian.
Where are you from?
@@kathrinat9824 Saudi Arabia
There's lots of russian language sources on them
@@kathrinat9824 Slava
In India, Tapa means meditation, which also means turning hot due to the energy gained through meditation. In Marathi Taap also means getting hot.
Very well spotted.
In Persian Tab means fever.
@@lambert801 Yup. Taap is also used in marathi for fever.
thats so interesting, it immediately brings to mind, Tummo Meditation/ Buddhist Breath of Fire ...not sure if connected though but perhaps
Taapmaan means temperature too
Glad to see that you used a video by Ivan Semyan, showing the horse chariot! He was one of the professors at my university, and I also studied with an archaeologist who discovered Arkaim! Greetings from Urals!
He has done excellent work!
@@Survivethejive if I'll ever cross paths with him again, I will tell him about your work!
@@Iisheell Please do! I'm sure he will value these videos!
Приветствую бро! Где можно посмотреть работы Ивана Семьяна?
This is an absolute gem among all the videos about the ancient world in RUclips !
Getting into details and mentioning all possible connections of every single information... IT'S JUST 💎
So nice of you
A lot of people will be angered by claims that white people lived as far as Mongolia, India and Iran, and call it historical revisionism, but have no problem admitting that the Asiatic Huns lived as far as Western Europe and Scandinavia. If one is true, why can't both be true?
Same with migrating Asiatic Bolghars in Thrāikes Bulgaria, and after them the Uralic Asiatic Mogyër moving to modern Hungaria.
They can be angered as much as they want, we shall not care about their feelings.
@@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 the Aryans were/are WHITE. not the dark inhabitants of India today. the caste system originated with us Europeans. the Hindu caste system is a corruption of an older Aryan/white iteration. The older pagan societal systems of Aryan civilizations are not just more meritocratic and fluid in nature, but also place a lot more importance on the soul or spiritual advancement of an individual in terms of which "caste" they should be a part of.
And a lot of the White Hindu Aryans of South Asia, all racially miscegenated with the Brown Australoid Dravidians from the South.
Indians don’t have a problem with the idea that white coloured peoples lived that Far East. The issue is the idea that our ancestors were whites or that the Aryans invaded india to establish Vedic culture.
@@Lee-sd8uothis is just racist liberalism.
Extremely accurate, as far as I can tell, And very informative. thanks and keep up the good work!
As an Iranian and fan of history I can also allude to the ancient and famous book of “shah name”, which is Iranian National epic, and it’s main hero is a schytian warrior called Rostam. You can infer a lot about their habits and lifestyle there.
I mentioned shahnameh in my video on the world tree. I didn’t know it was about a scythian
@@Survivethejive Indeed, Rostam was a saka from sakastana (today's Sistan, south eastern Iran). And the later parts of the shahnameh essentially explore the dialectic between zoroastrianism and more pagan nomadic beliefs
Really appreciate this documentary, I'm Eastern European ancestry, my bloodline was closely connected to horses and traveled East back in past, while watching this i feel closely connected to Scythian culture.
I always love your long documentary type videos. Thanks Tom
EDIT: 24:00 didn't expect to see that! 😂
WHOA! someone called me so i wasnt listening, but then that image showed up and i told them i had to go to find out WHY HOMEBOY DOIN THIS TO HIMSELF
@@gilgoofthegrove5072 😂😂
@@gilgoofthegrove5072 he later regretted it
Once again you've managed to be detailed and comprehensive without being confusing. Great work! 👍
This was absolutely fascinating, thank you.
Cheers Dan!
Oh hey, nice to see you here.
Dan Davis and Survive the Jive are treasures. Please never stop. Much love
Thank you for your continued contribution to the pagan/heathen/polytheist community, we appreciate it Tom, we need more men and women adding to this growing body of work/revival.
You are my favorite archaeology channel! I have been watching you since I was a stoner in jr. college. Now I am in the 1st year of my masters in archaeology. Thank you for your work! Keep up the good fight Aryama!
Best of luck!
@@Survivethejive thank you sir
The connection steppe people used to have is incredible. And your documentaries are top, thx
Those Alans that were described in the beginning of the video are the same Alans who ruled Spain! On the other side of the continent!
I feel like Iranian and Germanic peoples have spread so much farther than people realize
At one point in history, the Iranic branch were the most widespread and numerous of all Indo-Europeans. They were also the last to hold onto the original nomadic nature of indo-european culture.
The part about crossdressing and Siberian influence - shamans usually impersonate the spirit that they are represnting. This is preserved in some Tibetan rituals as well. The shaman is meant to be representing a living female deity. It is unlikely there was any sexual context behind that.
This is one of your most important videos … it links everything… immediate re-watch, thank you 🙏
I feel it in my bones every time the "Steppe Expansion" track comes on.
The thumbnail art definitely worked for getting my attention.....lol
The best documentary on the subject there is. Compliments. I hope you will continue the topic and then make a series on Indo-Iranian peoples.
Here's to hoping this blows up. Your last three videos were important to me Tom but this was an excellent surprise. I had looked for documentaries on Scythians some time ago and couldn't find anything of such quality and depth.
Fingers crossed!
Greetings from the Ural region and an area close to the Sintashta Culture! Thank you very much for your work.
Another amazing video thank you! I've had a theory that the Saxons descend which descended from the Sicambri had themselves (at least partly) descended from Scythians (Saka) and Shakyas. If not then they all clearly share some of the same very indo European cultural aspects.
Thank you Tom for this wonderful video. Well researched and magnificently made. I've been waiting for you to cover the Scythians and other Iranic steppe nomads and was not disappointed. I had been fascinated by this culture since reading the Conan the Barbarian comics when I was a kid, which had many Scythian motifs and influences.
Conan was a Cimmerian
@@Survivethejive Cimmerian is an Iranian peoples
I greatly appreciate you pronouncing the romanized C sound as Greek Kappa, rather than the c-sedilla (ç) one English inherited from the French; as well as using the older form of upsilon that was corrupted into an i sound, even in modern Greek.
Thanks. Others think I am weird for doing this but I must live a certain way
@@Survivethejive unfortunately in modern Greek the pronunciation of iota has replaced many other vowels like epsilon and upsilon, as well as digraphs. These are all pronounced like "i" iota: ι, η, υ, ει, οι, υι
Polymathy, and on his other channel, has talked about this a lot.
When υ was pronounced as /y/, θ was pronounced as an aspirated /t/, not a th sound.
It's unreasonable to expect English speakers to pronounce a letter with a sound that is absent in their natural phonology, and then turn around and use modern English phonology for other letters.
Either pronounce it as the Ancient Greeks did, or use the most appropriate English sounds.
I also appreciate this!
Due to the interst I have in all the STJ videos, while I was watching this I was extremely serious. Then that shaman suddenly said *IT'S MA'AM!* and I had to pause the video until I finished to laugh.
Perfect work as usual ;) Always onoring our ancestors exposing them to the public.
Honor our ancestors, yes, indeed.
Hail. Also, I like the profile pic 😉⚡⚡
Jive can't help but shitpost
@@dirksharp9876 More than shitposting it's just a bit of meming, it's always healthy.
I have to say, having the time and opportunity to drink your first killed enemy blood during a battle is unlikely. Reminds me of how in the Iliad they tried on the armor of every great warrior they killed, in the midst of battle, and then went on fighting more.
Once again, documentarian excellence. Where anthropology and the esoteric meet, I'll always be there. As always, you have my continued support.
I am proud of my Iranian(Iranic) ancestors. Especially after taking DNA tests, going back to the Neolithic era. I am ethnic Persian and cluster very close with other Iranic groups, particularly the Alans and pre-Indo-European Caucasian and Anatolian groups. I am happy to see Iranian and other Iranic peoples get more historical spotlight. Thank you.
I am afghan and i got mostly iranian dna and northern indian in my report and ironically some finnish as well. Chances are I have some scythian ancestry myself too.
@@balto9674 That’s awesome. You definitely have Scythian and Bactrian ancestry as they established the Indo-Scythian kingdom, as well as the Kushan Empire. Pashtuns are Iranic peoples too, while the Tajiks are west Iranic Persian peoples.
@@Arya_N700 Yeah I am an ethnic pashtun from both my parents but I can see that I have some heritage from them as they are all Iranic people’s. Even my hapologroup dna comes from the caucasus and iran mostly from tehran and isfahan province. These people are interesting since they were a mysterious and I know Sistan province in Afghanistan is known as Sakastan.
@@Arya_N700 Kushans were established by ethnic Tocharians
The Alans are largely Iranic by language only, as they descend mostly from G2a males. Tajiks though are Persianized Eastern Iranic people.
Wow, great video. Intrigued by seeing the name Tapati as it is a very very popular name in Bengal(a state in India).
Bengalis are an Indo-Aryan ethno linguistic group with a very complex genetic make up. Mainly recognisable ancestory of Bengalis are:-
1)Proto Indo european with Steppe ancestry. Mostly Brahmin and Kayastha in bengal society
2)South Asian Hunter Gatherers
3)Australo-asiatic peoples from South East Asia. Especially Munda people with rich cultural heritage.
4)West Asian Hunter-gatherer (dravidians)
5)Tibetian people from East asia
Steppe people carried the name introduced it in Bengal.
I heard that only 9% of Bengali genetic is from Indic peoples
The Goddess from Kelermes scythian mirror is definitely Potnia Theron. It is amazing that you can find many almost identical images of her in ancient Greek, Etruscan, Minoian and Mycenaean art. There are also similar images of the Goddess in Mesopotamia and Egypt . According to a theory, the figure represents the goddess Artemis, which sounds very close to Artimpasa by the way. I think Potnia Theron "the Mistress of Animals" is a very big and underappreciated topic that deserves more attention.
Just because there are animals you assume it's a foreign greek goddess? Even when i explained what happened to scythians who worshipped greek goddesses and i explained how important animals are in their art??
@@Survivethejive Yes, that's odd. I know. But why she looks almost identical? Same figure, same wings, same clothes, same position of holding animals ..even face and hair style. Perhaps "potnia theron francois vase" is a good example. Please google it and see for yourself. And there are many of those images. Maybe is not even of greek origin... Do you think those images can not have any connection somehow?
@@Survivethejive "Artemis" is not of Greek origin, even though she ascended to Olympian level fame. The etymology of her name is unclear. Perhaps Artimpasa was the root...?
great episode as always! I have been intrigued by scythians for long. I wondered if you would lay more light upon the Indian scythians known as "saka/shaka" in Sanskrit. They have an important relevance even to modern India as the official calendar of India adopted by the government after Independence is the one started by a saka king. It is called the "saka samvat". Saka samvat in addition to vikram samvat are two important calendars of hinduism. India follows saka samvat while Nepal follows the older vikram samvat which is based on king Vikramaditya. You will find saka calendar date mentioned on all Indian government announcements, gazettes and parliament (sansad) proceedings. Additionally, while tapati is indeed a river, the meaning of the word "tap" continues to be heat/burning in sanskrit/hindi. It gives rise to words "taap" meaning heat, "taapmaan" meaning temperature, as well as "tapasya" meaning burning in the practice of austerity, hard work/meditation.
very interesting, thanks
You may also know that the group of kshatriyas/warriors from the Saka group were introduced into Hinduism as the Agnivanshi Rajputs. Agnivanshi meaning descendents of Fire. So the Hindu priests knew about the belief system of the Sakas.
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Maga brahmin were related to saka people,they were sun worshipper.early Buddhist text "Mahabivasha" showed that these maga Brahmin were barbarian,related to scythinans,had maintain illicit sexual relation with own family members like incest.modern day they r mostly living in uttarpradesh,up,bihar,odisha.maximum rape happens there by tgese ppl.
@@user-vy5uy9fo8pbut rajput claim ancestry of ancient kshatriyas, they think even Gupta rulers were rajputs lol
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I’ve always maintained the Scythians hold the key to understanding PIE culture. Good that some, Cunliffe and yourself included, agree.
Just wondering, why have you maintained that? What sources or information makes you think so?
@@kathrinat9824 From what we know of the Indo-Europeans, the Scythians exhibit the most ancient characteristics in common with them, our ancestors.
Like all European groups, they became influenced by the native peoples they encountered, just as the Indo-Europeans in the West took on much from the earlier farming people, which influenced the development of the Celts; the northern groups were influenced by the Sami of Finland, whose shamanism had a shaping effect on Norse religion; the Hellens were strongly influenced by the Mycenaeans.
However, the Scythians occupied much of the territory of their (and our) original Proto Indo-European homelands.
That, and if we want to actually see a semi-nomadic European group, we need look no further than them to understand what that might look like.
For my purposes, reconstructing ancient Celtic culture, it helps very much to gain a sense of perspective by learning about the Scythians, so I have been researching Tabiti, Papaos, Artimpasa and the like for many years.
@@thegreenmage6956 so we didn't have our own cultures, customs languages etc.. people are making it sound like as if we were completely ignorant and didn't develop anything on our own. wtf?
@@thegreenmage6956 and if it weren't for non Europeans, we wouldn't have languages? this makes no sense.
@@thegreenmage6956 I completely agree about Scythians being a window into PIE. Are you trying to reconstruct ancient Celtic belief? Would you have recommendations for how to / where to learn about Scythian beliefs from?
The irony of Greeks accusing a people to be gay
becouse they made fun of their own gay
Excellent as always. Despite having read and watched a fair bit about the scythians, having this summary style video benefited me.
Clearly this Channel is very important, filling a huge gap. Thank you for so much work!! It is bridging a gap in the past of Vedic indo-euro culture. It is a work truly bringing east & west closer in troubled times. Blessings on the Producer and on all honest & peaceful visitors☆
42:02 A similar motif to the four treasures of the Dagda. Bríd also being a highly venerated Goddess of the hearth. Ó Gríofa or Griffin is a popular second name in Ireland. You also have Griffith in Wales.
I keep seeing associations that link Gaelic religion and culture with that of the Eurasian Steppe and areas such as Phonecia
I watched this 3 times to refresh, take notes, etc. Great video, as always. For some reason though, Surya's face with the serious cheeks and chin crack me up now at 21:37
Scythians were hugely significant in the first millennia BCE and contemporaries of the Ancient Persians and Greeks. They were nomadic people like the fierce Mongols 1500 years later excellent at horse riding and shooting arrows on horseback. The Persians and Greeks could never pin them down to defeat them because they were always on the move in mostly Pontic-Caspian region north of the Black Sea. Like the Yamnaya their remnants are their burial mounds with lots of gold which are now mostly in Petersburg museums.
Excellent work, enthralling, and truly a pleasure to listen to and watch. If one day we should ever have a Hollywood of our own what great heroics might one day be produced in the tales of our Gods and Ancestors!
This is fantastic. After discovering Asha Logos I’m definitely searching for as much Scythian content as I can find.
Good that you like it! However be aware that Scottish people have no Scythian ancestry and Oera Linda is a fake book
@Lill Frigg Celtic is not Iranic
I love your videos. I hoping to see a video on the Roman religion and their gods. Roger Woodard wrote a book on Indo-European Sacred Space comparing Vedic and Roman religion.
So dense and comprehensive, it was like reading The Golden Bough.
Interesting video im from North Ossetia, this helps me learn of my ancestors
The Uppsala mounds used both cremation and the mound. The fire was so well constructed to purposefully preserve the bones and armor, much like Loki's feast competition.
I've noticed the cultures of the Eurasian Steppes and the Circumpolar have much in common. Interestingly, here in the US there were early Native American mound builders in the Ohio and Mississippi river valleys. Not surprising, really. But way cool.
@@Lee-jh6cr yes, the “circumpolar context” is VERY interesting. I’m working on a project to show how Chinese medicine can be explained in mythic terms. For example; the liver (wood, housing Thunder) and spleen (Rock) channels reflect Thor’s fight with Hrungnir in that spleen is “above” (more “anterior”) to liver in the upper leg, but they switch in the lower leg. So Thialfi told the giant that Thor would attack from below and suggested the giant should stand on his shield. The giant is also considered “effeminate” and afraid for creating a proxy clay man animated with a mare’s heart. Gall bladder is like Thialfi and Stomach is a Yang organ, but Spleen and Liver are yin organs…remember how Thir dressed up as Freya, sacrificing his masculinity while being the “most masculine” of the gods? Similarly Freyr was portrayed as less than courageous by Loki.
The Bagua is 8 trigrams, like the runes are 3 ættir, and Sleipnir has 8 legs while being the only horse that can reach Hel and return and the Bagua was found in the 8 footprints of the water horse (turtle sacrifice) on the shores of the river.
I can also use several Norse myth themes and the Bagua to show how the creation story fits with the Plains sweat lodge ritual as Stone Boy is Buri/Brahmā/Bromios/B’reishit. It’s fascinating.
I know you prob get asked this a lot, but it'd be really cool to see more stuff on the Celts. Information on the religion of the Celts is SORELY lacking on youtube, with Fortress of Lugh being pretty much the only one doing relatively high quality videos on it. I also saw that your previous video on the Celts and the Irish are some of your top ones on your channel.
Hello. I am the author of one of the images you are using in this video. Feel honoured that other like and show my art, but could it be credited?
I am so sorry it wasn't credited. I thought all of them were? Which one is it?
Ah yes. I was given permission by Odinets the pale to use it and he said he owned it. I was going to credit Bendis but thought it was a typo in my notes from when i was talking about the goddess Bendis. I can't re edit and export the whole film now, but how about i share your art and link on my twitter of Telegram?
@@Survivethejive, Bendis is my pseudonym. Yes, you can. Thank you for the support.
t.me/survivethejive/4618
I had been misled! It was the attractive drawings that misled me and it is the curiosity that kept me from going away from this video!
Wow, this deserves a million views.
Praise The Sun!
First! Going to show to my parents momentarily!
After several interruptions, we finished it! They liked it!
We found it difficult to consume due to the unfamiliarity of the topic and how condensed it is but we liked it all the same. Very interesting.
@@fizzlecracks3669 thanks for the feedback. I know i really should try to space info out a bit but it's so long as it is. Very hard to get the info in and also not make it too long
@@Survivethejive Perhaps a two parter like you did with the Germanic Pagans?
@@fizzlecracks3669 probably a good idea
@@Survivethejive I think doing more shorts from your longer videos will help as well. Shorter attention spans, ya know
Amazing info, lots of facts i never knew before about Scythians. Thank you
Great documentary, even more so because of the little bits of humor added to the mix. The one at 1:10:47 really had me going. Great stuff.
Bro had the mossa scythian girl ass in the thumbnail
now yuo see
Tom knows what's good
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OT: Have you seen "Pandorum"? It is well made sci-fi horror that was meant to be first of 3 movies. That depicts the Indoeuropean Sky Father and the Indoeuropean Earth Mother when they were young.
Had it been successful the later movies were meant to show the veneration and transmutations of the original deities.
The movie also has other themes, such as the Sky Father being the unifier, combatting not only the outgroup but also nihilism in his own tribe.
When was it made?
@@sumerianliger Name was Pandorum, from 2009.
great video about them, i never knew about Scythians up until playing Rome 1 : Total War (which their mounted archers were really good), also damn that female Scythian archer has some nice assets in that thumbnail
The Scythian material culture is widespread over the Eurasian steppe and much of it may not correspond to Iranian-speakers as we know that Ugric and Turcic cultures at least shared the same style of living and material culture. The late Avars of the 8th century for example had a widespread representation of beasts of prey and they most probably spoke Turcic at least according to the few inscriptions that we can read. Scythian sites situated like Filippovka perhaps belonged to Ugric speaking people.
Great video! One note - not all indoeuropean-iranian religions have male hearth deity - baltic religion fire = Ugnis can be male, but Deity of fire Ugne/Agne is female. It's incredible how similar it is to the Indian Agni god!
Yamnaya - Corded Ware - Fatyanovo - Abashevo - Sintashta-Srubnaya - Andronovo-Fedorovo - Karasuk - Scythians ... That sounds good.
The time is approaching when, thanks to new genetic and archaeological discoveries, it will be possible to produce a large picture showing the affiliations of all the Indo-European cultures and peoples, from the Yamnaya to the first historical states. I hope someone will make a nice poster out of it. I'll hang it in my bedroom and burn some clarified butter in front of it. Very Indo-European.
Yes but I'm not convinced corded ware descend from yamnaya
Hahaaa, "Did gay stuff". I spat my tea.
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That Thumbnail is a very cultured choice Thumb up
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Super wellbrought, glad we got to share in it because of you. Thanx a bunch big G.
Why isn't this history taught in schools?
People feel only their own is important.
which is stupid since the human collectivity is one in history.
@Makin Shooties Not a single first hand source says that. In fact there are no accounts of Scythians and Germanics from the same period anywhere. They are not the same people at all. Byzantines and later Xians referred to some Germanic people as Scythians out of ignorance
Because it doesn't forward political narrative, so they have no use for it.
The big nosed swindlers don’t want their greatest enemy to reclaim their birthright.
It’s been a minute Jive! Question, do you have a reading list of sorts, so I can put my spare change to something worthwhile?
sources in description
Haplogroup U2 is an extremely old lineage, going back at least 40,000 years, when Homo sapiens first expanded from the Middle East into South Asia and Central Asia. Two of the oldest Homo sapiens DNA samples from Europe tested to date, a 37,000 and a 33,000-year old Cro-Magnons from the Kostenki site on the Don River in the Russia, both belonged to haplogroup U2. Scholars believe that this group, after migrating north, became the dominant lineage among the foragers who eventually settled in Central Asia and South Asia and became the Indo-Iranian groups.
Slavs were farmers from the woodlands. They always settled near woodlands and rivers. Their houses, and even their larger structures were made of wood.
Scythians were nomads from the plains. They used to inhabit the western parts of the Eurasian steppe. Furthermore, they spoke an eastern Iranic language.
The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
As always, a phenomenal video. I would only add one thing.
In America, we actually use the word "Moose" as the plural as well as the singular.
e.g. "There is a moose over there. Watch out, there are a bunch of moose over there."
Same on the Canadian northwest, but more common to hear elk than moose used in the same way.
elk and moose are also two different animals
I am a Jat from India, a descendant of Scythians.
Shut up hun
Nice show, I've met someone in a dream once, who told me certain phrases, that when entered into an a.i. picture maker, made some simular things.😊
In our Persian language today, we say Khuda still for God and the word Abi for blue or water.
Fun Fact: There is a Mongolian tribe named Asud whose ancestry goes back to the Scythians.
Many Mongolians have Scythian haplogroups and admixture
@@Survivethejive but none of Mongolian tribe has a *Certain* Scythian root like Asud clan.
@@Nomadicenjoyer31 I'd be interested to see their genetic profile
@@Survivethejive Are Turks (Anatolia Turks) descendants of the Scythians to some extent? I've seen a bunch of Turks claiming that.
@@whitedragon7773 No, they are not.
Many thanks and don't know how to thank you. Very very much interesting and the way you explain the details
This channel deserves so much more views man
awesome I was just looking for something to get started learning about the religion of the scythians. something like this on slavic paganism from you would be super good as that topic is full of bad info
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This is very ...... Indoeuropean and it fucking rocks !!!
As an American viewer, I want to make a small correction. We recognize Elks and Mooses as distinct animals. The main distinction comes in the shape of their horns. An Elk has longer, more slender horns that branch apart further from the head. A Moose has horns that are largely more shovel-shaped. North America as a whole has four subspecies of Elk: the Roosevelt Elk, the Tule Elk, the Rocky Mountain Elk, and the Manitboa Elk. The Moose/Elk situation is actually a matter of Europeans grouping the animals North Americans call Mooses into the same family as Elks.
Otherwise, amazing video as always!
You incorrectly recognise them as separate animals because the thing you call an elk is not an elk and the thing you call a moose is an elk
The word elk has applied to what you call mooses for over 2000 years
Thoroughly enjoyed this video
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice!
I recently, after tracing my line back to early 17th century (southern) England (with a branch in the Channel Islands), learned that I am (y-haplogroup) E-S7461 (downstream from E-V13) and so, according to the prevailing theory such as the science stands, probably (as opposed to definitely) the offspring of one of the Thracians serving in Imperial Rome's Thracian units in Germany and Britain. Apparently some 20% of them did not return to their home province upon retirement and some portion of these took Brythonic wives and remained in Britain.
Whatever the case, I've recently (re-)developed and interest in Thracians (after delving in Getic peoples, Dacians and Zalmoxis a few years back) and noticed the hat on a number of the images of these Scythians in your video; the "garden gnome hats", which I had recently come to believe was a Thracian style. Also the custom of tattooing, which Herodotus links to the Thracians, who he otherwise describes in terms almost identical to those of Tacitus in his description of the Germanic peoples,
"Among the rest of the Thracians... The idler is most honoured, the tiller of the soil most contemned; he is held in highest honour who lives by war and foray.
"These are the most notable of their usages. They worship no gods but Ares, Dionysus, and Artemis. But their princes, unlike the rest of their countrymen, worship Hermes above all gods and swear only by him, claiming him for their ancestor."
- Herodotus (5th century BC)
And from Tacitus,
"During the intervals of war, they pass their time less in hunting than in a sluggish repose, divided between sleep and the feast. All the bravest of the warriors, committing the care of the house, the family affairs, and the lands, to the women, old men, and weaker part of the domestics, stupefy themselves in inaction"
And,
"Of the gods, Mercury is the principal object of their adoration"
You should do a video on the Thracians and/or Zalmoxis, this latter of whom has much in common with Woden, eg. the rider motif, etc. etc.
"The aforesaid race of which I speak (the Goths) is known to have had Filimer as king while they remained in their first home in Scythia near Maeotis. In their second home, that is in the countries of Dacia, Thrace and Moesia, Zalmoxes reigned, whom many writers of annals mention as a man of remarkable learning in philosophy. Yet even before this they had a learned man Zeuta, and after him Dicineus; and the third was Zalmoxes of whom I have made mention above."
- Jordanes, History of the Goths (6th century AD)
Since the earliest times, the Celto-Germans (Bastarnae), the Goths, the Dacians and Getae, the Scythians, the Sarmatians, and the other Getaeic peoples, have all, be it directly or indirectly -- via the Scythians, the Getae or the Goths -- been tied to or otherwise conflated each with the other.
And then we have the relation between such ethnonyms as the Gutones, the Goths, the Geats, and possibly the Jutes (as well as places like Jutland and Gotland, and ancestor-/deities as Gothus, Geat, Gaut) and that of the Getae and their ethnonymic relatives (eg. Tyragetae, Thyssagetae, Massagetae).
If Jordanes conflated all of these fair horse-riders, their actual resemblance to one another certainly contributed to it.
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen. A fantasy author I follow and watch on twitter talks a lot about this too, and the overlap/homophily between vedic, greek, norse, and other cultures, all because of the evolution out of proto indo-european peoples/cultures, the language, and more.
He's even talked about what you brought up - the Iranian and Vedic interesting take on one culture worshiping the Daevas as gods, and Asura as evil, but inverse in the Iranian.
Agni suktam or hymn to Agni is later equated with the goddess tradition, highlighting clearly that Agni was originally female.
Thank you for giving this to us for free
You're welcome
fantastic work Mr. STJ as allways!. In my upcoming danish book "Cwen" i point out the clear connection between the Scythian /Sarmatian traditions and the North germanic, by following the Sarmatian emigration into North western Europe, from 100-400 AD. More than 5000 Sarmatian Horsemen are send to to England to guard Hadrians wall, while many Alanic clans settle in Frankia. Sarmatian/Alanic warrior graves have been found both in Holland, Germany and Polen, so its clear both from archaeology and written sources, than Scythian/Sarmatian cultures become an important part of both Slavic and Germanic cultures, during the migration era. Thank you again for your great effort to strengthen our indo-european heritage
we each had our own cultures. they didn't influence us in any way.
Always a good day when STJ uploads!
Very clear, all about our heritage beyond any modern-day borders and political points of view.
If you haven’t read: The Scythian Empire by Christopher I Bekwith, you should. It’s a linguistic history of the Scythians and greater Iranic peoples, and especially focuses on East Iranic religions. You probably already read it.
Yes Beckwiths book is superb👍
I'm a Gilak, so I guess I'm partly Scythian😊 cause Amards and Tapurs who once lived in Gilan and our neighboring province, Mazandaran were Scythian tribes.
I thought those tribes were Median (though Medes were close to Scythians).
@@diyar3219 look them up. They were Scythians. But as you said they were close to Medes, Iranian tribes after all 🙂
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45:25 the barrow complex depicted is Bezvodivka observatory in Chernihiv Oblast, Ukraine. I have been there in 2018 for the summer solstice - I can say it was truly a remarkable experience filled with symbolism: before the sunrise I saw a meteor. There are many more barrows in Ukraine that I would like to visit, however muscovites are destroying such precious bits of prehistory.
Sounds like a magical experience
I'm a ginger. All gingers are related. Scythians were largely ginger. These are my extended family :D
This video is very interesting, as it shows the racial, cultural and religious mixtures in a wide region, the area inhabited by the Scythians. They are portrayed as a people on the periphery of the most advanced civilizations (Greek and Persian). But in fact the Scythians were at the center of the world and influenced adjacent cultures as much as they were influenced by them. If the Scythians had belonged to a culture that valued history (that recorded the past in writing) this people would have left us the particular way they saw themselves and other peoples.
High Quality as always.
Great video! Thanks for the content!
The mysteries connect all indo european peoples & their descendents. They may take many forms but they are all of the same philosophy. The philosophy of 🔥.
the Indo-European peoples were white, all of them..
This is amazing!