The World's Oldest Myth? World Tree and Reincarnation Documentary

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  • @wadejustanamerican1201
    @wadejustanamerican1201 2 года назад +409

    True story. When my brother in law died, I had a dream after his funeral. I found him kneeling next to a river with a tree on the opposite side. The ground was white, the tree was white, the water was almost silver flowing but calm. I had a brief conversation with him and woke up. Very interesting to see the theme of the river and tree through so many cultures.

    • @OpenCorridor-en3ox
      @OpenCorridor-en3ox 2 года назад +19

      It's also in the Bible (Jeremy 17:8).

    • @jameswilson3370
      @jameswilson3370 2 года назад +14

      Beautiful dream. Thanks for sharing.

    • @casaapodaca9827
      @casaapodaca9827 2 года назад +10

      I was thinking that these universal sacred images may run deep than culture, like obviously water was extremely important to our ancestors, and white would have been associated with an unattainable wonder of clouds that provide water, and the trees that our ancestors found refuge and sustenance in. Like just because they are shockingly similar is not evidence of correlation. Like how people try to connect American and Egyptian pyramids, when a pyramid is just the easiest way to stack something high as shit so are these images just burned into our DNA.

    • @keenanmcginnis5052
      @keenanmcginnis5052 2 года назад +5

      On the morning of July 5th there was a vision of a dog inventing religion and ruling over man. All was glorious until the volcano sacrifices started, though at least those sacrificed were turned into diamonds
      This was proceeded and followed by too many coincidences
      Writing this, I am now reminded of a story about a wolf that brought fire to man
      and Cu Chulainn
      and Lions
      just remembered my coat of arms

    • @end0skeleton404
      @end0skeleton404 2 года назад +21

      I believe our ancestors knew more about the afterlife than we understand today.

  • @ProfessorShnacktime
    @ProfessorShnacktime Год назад +57

    Holy hell (hah). This is a masterwork. I’m a Native American with Germanic ancestry, so the comparison of their myths is something I’ve looked into quite a lot. Something I’ve seen a few others mentioning in the comments is that MANY Native American myths (including ones not mentioned in the video, such as the pre contact Mississippian culture) have a striking thunder god, often a bird. The Mississippian priests would wield ceremonial hammers or blunt axes, and sacrifice victims via decapitation. Some myths depict this thunder god fighting with an underwater horned serpent, with a glowing single jewel on its head associated with wisdom. I believe there’s much more to be uncovered here.
    Absolutely amazing documentary. Many more people need to see this one.
    EDIT: I'd like to also mention black drink ceremonies, prevalent in Southeastern Native American societies. However, the ritual shell cups used in these ceremonies have been found as far north as Wisconsin in the States. I feel like my mind is racing now lol.

    • @brandonqueen2608
      @brandonqueen2608 Год назад +10

      I'm of a similar extraction (but French & Scottish) & I like the mound building similarities b/w Creeks & Celts. Research has also linked southeastern Creek/Mississippian culture to the Aztecs, some evem theorizing that there was a large second migration from Mexico to the southeast.

    • @AidanMcMillan-t5z
      @AidanMcMillan-t5z 4 месяца назад

      dear. gott. a mongrel.

    • @Baptized_in_Fire.
      @Baptized_in_Fire. 4 месяца назад +2

      The thunder God fighting with the horned serpent underwater is a metaphor for the fight between the soul and the consciousness/mind. The spiritual polarization of the wise. Whether Jesus being tested in the wilderness, or this story, or any other similar, is just a metaphorical telling of what happens when one seeks wisdom.
      The Egyptians had a similar representation of the soul as a horned serpent with a sun disc on it's head. It's just ancient metaphysics, which I suspect were brought by Aryans to the rest of the world.

    • @Haimariks
      @Haimariks 3 месяца назад +1

      same (im half metis and half norwegian)

  • @infinite5795
    @infinite5795 2 года назад +46

    Great video. As a Hindu, I would also like to add about Usha devi, the goddess of dawn and Surya deva, the God of the Sun. Also, the sun god has 4 forms, depending on the times of the day( a great example is the Konark Sun temple where the dawn sun is depicted as child, morning as teen, midday as adult/middle age/ at its zenith and setting one as an illustrious old man). Both these gods occupy the Eastern gates of a temple traditionally.

    • @nobody-vp1dr
      @nobody-vp1dr Год назад +3

      Nice one. Funny once folks are aloud to learn we rediscover that we were once the same. So now we must find who tricked us.

    • @ivornelsson2238
      @ivornelsson2238 Год назад +2

      HI Infinite,
      I don´t think the Suraya mytheme has anything to do with our Sun. It´s rather the central galactic Light of Creation. The Goddess of Dawn is also connected to the galactic Light and the galactic Milky Way contours.

  • @anonimus9560
    @anonimus9560 2 года назад +50

    Great work. It would be cool if Thomas would pay attention to the Finnish mythology one day. Finno-Ugric cultures absorbed and preserved very ancient elements of Indo-European culture.

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 2 года назад +4

      The same as Judaism through indoeuropean Levites.

    • @YamiKisara
      @YamiKisara 2 года назад +9

      Unfortunately, nowadays he's too Anglo-centric to do that. Maybe if he finds a way to tie it to the Anglo-Saxons. Or if he runs out of material one day.

    • @TheCrowan
      @TheCrowan Год назад +2

      Ancient Hungarian mythology also centers around a world tree.

  • @abbasalchemist
    @abbasalchemist 2 года назад +41

    Masterful exposition brother! Pythagoras' mentor Pherekydes speaks also of the cosmic tree unifying the Sun and Moon. Yggdrasil shares elements of the Zoroastrian Time Tree. Blessings upon you.

  • @trajan9034
    @trajan9034 2 года назад +18

    Thank you for making such an interesting and long video for us to enjoy ! :D
    - Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

  • @AxisMundi120
    @AxisMundi120 2 года назад +167

    Plato said learning is recollection, and I believe this is true in more than one sense. In this fantastic documentary, you show us how modern learning is uncovering and reconstructing the ancient beliefs of our ancestors. At the same time, there surely is a sacred and spiritual parallel: we are remembering the beautiful, authentic true religion of our people so it can live again in the present. This religion is being reincarnated just as we are life after life until we are ready to live among the Gods.

    • @MichaelRCarlson
      @MichaelRCarlson 2 года назад +13

      Well said. We've lost or way and forgotten. It's all coming around.

    • @AxisMundi120
      @AxisMundi120 2 года назад +2

      @@MichaelRCarlson Thank you; I appreciate your reply.

    • @nickpeterson8659
      @nickpeterson8659 2 года назад +6

      So that any layman can experience the feeling of this information for themselves; I seek to create Star Magi Mystery School, a reimagineering of my 30 year Dungeons&Dragons game houserules. In which the characters experience the players as voices and thoughts which guide them. Especially dangerous or suicidal instructions may require a check, rolling a d20 and comparing the Conviction ability score of the character. The characters are mammoth hunters in the ice-age, so the only thing interesting to do is go into the burial mounds take a hallucinogen and adventure together along the world tree starting in the dark underworld of the roots seeking magics to prove their worthiness to the tribe (the elders warn against such recklessness, at first). My goal is to encourage people to follow their own inner voice and do what they think is best even if it seems to require a personal loss or social stigma. The magic system is based on personal time management, such that the players keep track of their real-life chores and good deeds in order to power the spell effects to aid their characters. The players must find a way to describe these magical effects as coincidences and synchronicities, otherwise any vulgar magical effects will transfer that magical power to the Kur (the Dungeon Master who controls the setting and all the enemies), who uses it to weave curses and ensnare items and turn characters into NPCs (Kursed).
      So, the setting is Ancient North Eurasain/PIE/Norse World Tree
      The magic system is my gamification of comparative mythology, theology of numbers, and journaling/scheduling
      Each game session would be a new generation, so you can age up your current character or get reincarnated as a new one.
      Factions may occur in the tribe over time as groups associate themselves with one player over another.
      Eventually I'd like it to evolve into a Civilization type game with the players guiding nations of people with weird belief systems based on previous game events.
      It's too much though, my brain hurts, and I feel stuck. And whenever I try to tell anyone about it their eyes graze over and I know that I sound like an insane person. So now I share it here, with you. Because I think maybe you can glimpse it too. The thing I try to do.

    • @nickpeterson8659
      @nickpeterson8659 2 года назад +4

      @@jonathanjonathansen Presumption and arrogance are even more silly ideas, especially when consciousness is not understood by modern science. Those who deride magical thinking fail to see that modern science still sees all thinking as magical. None know from where it comes or why.

    • @nickpeterson8659
      @nickpeterson8659 2 года назад +2

      @@jonathanjonathansen We each suffer through the hell of our own ignorance, and time is the fire in which we burn. Yearn to learn, not to spurn.

  • @andrejbielousov4931
    @andrejbielousov4931 2 года назад +15

    Thank you for another documentary masterpiece.

  • @boeotian-warrior
    @boeotian-warrior 11 месяцев назад +3

    In Greece we also have this myth. On our folk legends we imagine goblins chewing on this Tree and every time Christmas comes, they stop to venture out into the open world.

  • @aunmarie7629
    @aunmarie7629 2 года назад +3

    Absolutely wonderful!! I was just reading up on how 80% of North American Indian Nations are 1/3 Western Eurasian from 25,000 BCE. Truly great work Tom.

  • @GriffinParke
    @GriffinParke 2 года назад +10

    The more I learn about polytheism, the more the Abrahamic religions seem like a hotch potch of different elements from various other religions.

  • @itsfonk
    @itsfonk 2 года назад +12

    Impeccable timing 🤙 I’m heading into this weekend with a weeklong nightly wandering through various materials on this very subject. I’ve always been rather fond it’s nordic name, Yggdrasil. I’ve envisioned this world tree form at multiple levels from micro to macro, as it feels like a fractal familiar. For example, the emergence of two opposing complimentary realms from the “”Big Bang”” event. Also, the reciprocal flow of energy in and out, both as limbs stretching into the sky and roots into the ground. As above, so below. Yin and Yang. The cosmic Q-Tip of balance. My mind’s straying… and so I’ll look forward to further detail you’ll present us today!

  • @FortressofLugh
    @FortressofLugh 2 года назад +7

    Great insights as always!

  • @memevarg2530
    @memevarg2530 2 года назад +6

    Interestingly enough, I had a dream not long ago where I walked through a city built inside a HUGE white tree that grew on the shores of a glowing lake/sea. It's crown was so big it covered the sky and thousands of birds and animals similar to elk ran/flew towards the tree. It was so beautiful that I cried on the sand between the tree and the water. Then I was welcomed in, backpack on my back and all...

  • @borja.vilallonga
    @borja.vilallonga 2 года назад +4

    What a masterpiece Tom. My enthusiastic congratulations for such a fine documentary!

  • @lukasfolkner4618
    @lukasfolkner4618 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, Tom, for resurrecting and preserving our ancestral traditions during an age which suppresses them from nearly every side. You fight to keep our soul alive, and for that, your soul will live forever; just as it has met every challenge up to our present incarnation; clearly, else you wouldn't be such a warrior.

  • @sionnachdensolas9787
    @sionnachdensolas9787 2 года назад +3

    Always a great day when you post a new video

  • @jasonadams2264
    @jasonadams2264 2 года назад +7

    The mention of the Ash tree strikes me as particularly interesting, as the Wabanaki people of eastern North America say that the creator shot arrows into the trunk of an ash tree, and from that came humans. This is but another connection between the far north eastern natives and the Norse- the other major one being the inclusion of the trickster spirit Lox, which to my knowledge is virtually absent from other mid-latitude American cultures and hints at the meeting and sharing of the early Norse and indigenous Americans. I would love to see a video on this subject, as I find it utterly fascinating

    • @therealdarklizzy
      @therealdarklizzy Год назад +4

      Iriquois also have a myth of a thunder god that shoots lightning arrows battling a water serpent. Many related and nearby tribes also have legends of the thunderbird battling a horned water serpent. This is obviously very similar to similar themes in Norse and other Eurasian and IE mythologies. The Iriquois and neighboring tribes also have unusually high amounts of patrilinial haplogroup R, and they are the only people in the Americas with that haplogroup, which is associated with the Indo-European expansions and Ancient North Eurasian ancestry. Ancient North Eurasians are already the connecting thread between Europeans and Native Americans, with haplogroups R and Q being closely related and originating in Siberia in proximity to the ANE population, ans the haplogroup R found in some Native Americans was found to most likely originate in Siberia, mostly ruling out the possibility of later admixture. Those two groups are far more connected than most people realize.
      Another great rabbit hole is the potential connection between Yennisian languages of Siberia and Navajo/La Tene languages in North America.

  • @cuevob
    @cuevob 2 года назад +15

    Well, that was epic, an hour and ten minutes! I appreciate the great work synthesizing all of this. Can I ask if you have a bibliography for this so I can go deeper.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +7

      links are always in the description

    • @GMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGM
      @GMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGM 2 года назад +3

      @@Survivethejive Could you list the primary sources please? I can't find anything earlier than the 13th century AD. Thanks!

  • @scionofpluto3420
    @scionofpluto3420 2 года назад +4

    VERY ANCIENT NORTH EURASIAN
    This documentary blew my mind.

  • @georgimmanuelnagel6603
    @georgimmanuelnagel6603 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for everything that you do Mr. Rowsell! You are a true inspiration. Your work is so immensely important. You have so much influence on all of us...

  • @noahdanielg
    @noahdanielg 2 года назад +5

    Again a wonderful presentation Thomas, please make more on the Vedic Tradition; Sanātana Dharma!

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 2 года назад

      Yup. Life comes from a sacred cow. That's why we eat them, our natural human source of life & our evolutionary origin as species (well earlier more like mamoths & other megafauna). Our animal nature from animal nature.

  • @Andredar3
    @Andredar3 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic video, this is what I love about your channel. I've been very interested in the world tree lately and you weave it all together so wonderfully. Thank you!

    • @andreasolsen3962
      @andreasolsen3962 2 года назад

      Search for dreams of paradise - bock saga on youtube

  • @ProfessorShnacktime
    @ProfessorShnacktime Год назад +1

    Missed this one when it came out! Excited to watch it now. Many thanks, Thomas.

  • @Jackson-th3th
    @Jackson-th3th 2 года назад +4

    Great work sir! Greetings from Poland

  • @LikeTheVik
    @LikeTheVik 4 месяца назад +1

    one of the most important videos for anyone interested in Mysticism and the occult

  • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 2 года назад +6

    The popular female name _melissa_ refers to the honeybee in Greek. Now you see the connection in the word mentioned here of bees _melia._ So, it's a very ancient word, that became a name.

  • @fizeekpoaster
    @fizeekpoaster 2 года назад +3

    BY JOVE! Fantastic documentary, Lord Tom. Well done m8.

  • @casaapodaca9827
    @casaapodaca9827 2 года назад +4

    Wrote a paper about much of this, was going to explore more of this for my thesis. Good to know im not the only one seeing these patterns.

  • @neveragain125
    @neveragain125 2 года назад +3

    one of your most informative and well edited videos to date! great work!

  • @t.k.5972
    @t.k.5972 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent.
    I am writing on a post-scifi mythology involving the world tree (since 18 years) and much of this makes me realise all my patterns I lay out are mostly in a deeper hidden meaning, rooted in edda and other sources I have read along the way, not understanding, but their pictures blossoming in meaning, reminding me of their symbolism. It all comes together so beautifully and this is a very good resource to refresh ideas I forgot and maybe to enhance it even further , to become more bold to lay off modern images and dive my fingers into old clay.
    Thank you sincerely for indirectly helping me with my life's work, blessings.

  • @gaolen
    @gaolen Месяц назад

    nothing makes me happier than the runestone with thor on it where hes literally just a smiley face

  • @omikhlephonon
    @omikhlephonon Год назад +1

    Absolutely stunning presentation! A true work of storytelling and scholarly research, this should prove to be a hefty milestone in promotion of ancient roots. Chef d'œuvre !

  • @henrisummers6694
    @henrisummers6694 2 года назад +5

    In Hungarian native faith there is a world tree too! In the centre of the world stands a tall tree: the World Tree / Tree of Life (Világfa/Életfa). Its foliage is the Upper World, and the Turul bird dwells on top of it. The Middle World is located at its trunk and the underworld is around its roots. In some stories, the tree has fruit: the golden apples. The world tree often grows out of a reindeer or a horse. It often carries among its branches the Sun and the Moon. Being Half Hungarian I have always been interested in the faith but most if not all sources are not translated, I tried learning Hungarian but unfortunately for me it is a difficult language to wrap my head around.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +3

      There are Germanic coins which seem to show a tree growing from the antlers of a stag. It may be that the stag that lives in yggdrasil was originally the source of the tree and this was a feature shared with Hungarian cosmology

    • @henrisummers6694
      @henrisummers6694 2 года назад +1

      @@Survivethejive Very cool stuff, for Hungarians specifically at the time living a nomadic lifestyle the Stag and Horse were vital parts of their lifestyles.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +2

      @@henrisummers6694 it is said the two beasts depicted inside Anglo-Saxon temples were snakes and stags. the significance of the snake is easily understood in the association with the dead, while the stag requires more consideration

    • @szymonbaranowski8184
      @szymonbaranowski8184 2 года назад

      @@Survivethejive But original IE myth containing the cosmic cow which sacrificed created world, it's bones & spirit are still in soil, while plantlife sprout from it, symbolically rising from deadland. As a result cows as other ruminant animals as goats, stags, sheep fertilise soil into the ultimate form of black soils multiplying farming yield. As these made by steppe IE herders on territories of Ukraine after cutting off huge areas of forests & herding there for generations. This is direct link between cow symbol of creation, soil where all dead (usually dying around winter time) end up in & life sprouting back from it in spring. BTW a fun fact sour milk of pregnant cow called colostrum is a natural immunity booster proven to be trice more effective than a flu shot. Weren't steppe ppl taller & healthier than city grainesters? Didn't they expand after a plague that decimated farming eurocommunities but not them? Nature promotes life, naturally.

  • @darkmystic9
    @darkmystic9 3 месяца назад

    The ancients were trying to warn us about the reincarnation cycle. Although "they" steal our memories, many people are starting to remember past lives. NDE's and pre-birth memory videos are quite popular now and have many common themes like the ones you shared in this video. Great cross-analysis, and there are several other cultures around the world who also have narratives about rebirth.

  • @chrisgaston4571
    @chrisgaston4571 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video. Thoroughly enjoy your work.

  • @xezmakorewarriah
    @xezmakorewarriah 2 года назад +5

    i am yakut and i always wondered why our mythology is so similar to norse mythology and i never thought that they could be related. great video!

    • @cyndlehick9777
      @cyndlehick9777 Год назад

      Hope the snow isn’t too bad today friend.

  • @Skolotoi
    @Skolotoi 3 месяца назад

    As one very wise man once told me "The Tree nourishes Itself both from Sweet AND Bitter things. And so shall you nourish your Self both from Sweet and Bitter things." Truly those who shy away from the Dark, become consumed by it; and those who manage to embrace both aspects of the Transcended Self how a Child embraces the Mother find their way into the Light.

  • @undefinednull5749
    @undefinednull5749 2 года назад +3

    The tree is also in Slavic storiws. The Eagle in the tree and the serpent/dragon have very interesting roles and origin in the Slavic story.

    • @undefinednull5749
      @undefinednull5749 2 года назад +2

      Żar-Ptak is the bird AFAIR.So Not exactly an Eagle . The serpent thing is actually a Wij. (Literally something that slivers like a snake for example). You can get proper pronunciation with some Polish voice text to speech :).

  • @gregorytremaine1164
    @gregorytremaine1164 2 года назад +5

    Hari Krsna! Hari Rudra! Hari Arya! Hari Swastika! Hari Om Hari! Hari Om! Gregory Steven Withrow

  • @bruhistantv9806
    @bruhistantv9806 Год назад +5

    The hell snake and heaven eagle seems directly related to the Mexican flag

  • @plaguedoctor1544
    @plaguedoctor1544 2 года назад +4

    I don't know how you managed to do that Scottish accent in your advertisement with a straight face! hahaha

  • @dennisgrubbs1929
    @dennisgrubbs1929 2 года назад +2

    Awesome work thanks to everyone involved - the vid and stories blew me away Thanks again

  • @ribbrascal
    @ribbrascal 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well, this I have to watch, I guess
    I had a hypnotic past-life regression session in 2011, in Ft. Lauderdale of all places.
    I saw 7 different scenes of past lives, some mundane, others were traumatic deaths (peasant pulling a mule in ancient Rome, another life dying by animal in a colosseum, water carrier during the construction of the pyramids in Egypt, a young girl in the South Pacific, a boar hunter falling off a cliff in ancient Mexico, Confederate soldier, young mother who died with my baby and husband in the San Francisco earthquake was the last one, and I remember floating up into the sky with other souls who had just died, we were like bubbles.)
    At the end, I met my spirit guides at my "tree of life" that was also a fountain that had many individual pools cascading water into each other. The pools I could see into showed the 7 scenes I just saw. Then I zoomed up to a tree branch, then I and my spirit guides all melted into a sun.
    I still leave open the possibility it was all my imagination.
    And yet, I believe.

  • @GeorgiaHorridus
    @GeorgiaHorridus 2 года назад +1

    This is award winning stuff, Thomas! I thoroughly enjoyed this piece.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +1

      Wow, thanks!

    • @GeorgiaHorridus
      @GeorgiaHorridus 2 года назад

      @@Survivethejive I truly believe this to be among the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. It seriously deserves applause and recognition. I’ve seen mainstream documentaries that pale in comparison. You pursue a very useful idea and follow it to an evidence based conclusion. No hype, no click bait, no getting claims of getting swallowed on camera by an anaconda, only then to fail to deliver on a dramatic promise.
      Thanks for your work, and best regards!

  • @viison3237
    @viison3237 Месяц назад +1

    On a heavy dose of animita muscaria mushrooms I saw Yama who liberated me from the voices. There were strange things happening to me and even a red marking around my neck before.

  • @alaruno8325
    @alaruno8325 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting and well researched as usual! I especially liked the Proto-Indo-European reconstructed cosmology of the afterlife. Really puts the finger on the core of the tradition. Useful not only for historical reasons, but also for modern days pagans in their own practices and search for further understanding of life and death.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +4

      I do hope so, although I must warn again that it isn't 100% certain that the way I presented it is correct. The elements are 100% definitely there, but how they got together is not certain

  • @corpclarke
    @corpclarke 10 месяцев назад

    This was incredible. Thank you for creating it.

  • @elena__sh
    @elena__sh 6 месяцев назад +1

    By far the best video on Elden Ring lore

  • @bobokin5815
    @bobokin5815 2 года назад +1

    I was waiting for this one! Thanks im already loving it!!!

  • @archi.lochus
    @archi.lochus 2 года назад +3

    Slavs have basically the same post-death cosmology. River Smorodina, fields of dead ancestors, guarded by Veles etc

  • @psilonemo9459
    @psilonemo9459 9 месяцев назад +1

    This video would really, really benefit from a deep dive into the myths surrounding the use of ayahuasca and the Incan cosmology. It lines up pretty well at least with the immediately apparent visual motifs of the nordic world tree, with the serpent below and the eagle up top, and the serpent being associated with a "review" of one's life after death. I personally think these are truly the fragments of a mother culture long forgotten and weathered by time and the elements.

  • @luciangabrielpopescu
    @luciangabrielpopescu 2 года назад +1

    Great video, as always. This myth of a river that separates the dead from the living, guarded by three dogs/wolves or a single three-headed version, where you will have to pay a tribute to a boatman to pass through, persists up to this day in Romanian countryside no less than 1700 years after formal adoption of Christianity. For example, it was customary to bury the dead with a dime to pay the boatman, otherwise you will roam as a ghost. Your stories are more or less exactly the tales I read as a child from our national folklore: it seems like relics of Aryan religion were very much alive 150 years ago when those stories were collected.
    Reading Sagas when I was 12 (or Hobbits by Tolkien) I immediately recognized my folk heroes: same mindset, same figures, different settings. By correlating those similarities to faces I intuitively discovered those similarities are completely expected from people ultimately descended from one ethnic group

  • @hrafnayuzen9437
    @hrafnayuzen9437 2 года назад +5

    This video is another masterpiece

  • @hengistcane3120
    @hengistcane3120 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video Tom.great content and so informative many thanks sir.

  • @danieltocci136
    @danieltocci136 2 года назад +7

    In my own interpretation of the “god of death” and the divine twin myth, is that it’s rather a myth about the nature of the soul and not a creation myth such as in Germanic myth. Various dying gods are preserved in Indo-European mythology and are killed in a sacrificial fashion yet are not used in a creation myth, Yama/Yima, Baldur, and Dionysus. Each dying gods or are gods associated with the underworld. I know in your video you said that Yima had been a tainted myth due to the reforms by Zoroastrianism but I think that the myth of Yima’s death is strikingly similar to that of Baldur’s and may actually be apart of a larger more complex myth associated with life and death and other deities involved are the striker deity and the serpent he must fight. Within Yima’s death he is killed by a demon called Zahhak or Azi (etymologically related to Sanskrit ‘Ahi’ for serpent), the fashion which Yima dies is in a sacrificial manner where he is cut into multiple pieces by Zahhak, the hero Fereydun wields a club as his weapon to strike down Zahhak to avenge Yima’s death, from Zahhak’s body leached out vermin and such into the world and Ahura Mazda ordered Fereydun to bury and bind Zahhak lest the world be overrun with pests. At the end of times it is said that Zahhak will escape from his bonds beneath the earth and wreck havoc on the world above. The myth of Yima bears striking similarities with the myth of Baldur’s death, as you are likely very well versed in, Baldur is killed by an arrow of mistletoe that was given to Hothr by Loki, (a god associated with monstrous beings just as Zahhak is essentially the father to vermin as it leaked from him), Hothr is an Odinic god so that is a parallel in the similar sacrificial aspect which is associated with Yima’s death. Upon Baldur’s death, the god Vali is born and avenges his brother immediately after he is born, binding Loki in the underworld but at the end of the world he will break his bonds and wreck havoc just as Zahhak will. After Baldur’s death he came to be in the Underworld just as Vedic Yama was a god of the underworld and death. A Greek equivalent may be the death of the god Dionysus, in which the god was born with many great skills and even held a lightning bolt, this angered Hera as she saw it as a threat to Zeus, so Hera called upon all the titans to murder Dionysus, they tore him limb from limb (here perhaps representing the sacrificial aspect of his death, just as Yima was cut to pieces in his death). And just as a striker figure avenged the death of Baldur and Yima, Zeus avenges his dead son by defeating the Titans and imprisoning them in Tartarus. Here it may not be a serpent who committed the act but still chthonic beings who dismembered the god. And perhaps the reason Dionysus is a god of wine is similar to why Manu the twin of Yama possesses the holy liquid Soma, and perhaps in an even more esoteric sense the reason they are twins is because they are essentially the same god, one the holy and everlasting aspect associated with ritual and continual rebirth (like Manu being the ancestor to all humanity as he lives on through all of man) and the aspect that dies, the twin, which then becomes the god of death and inhabits the underworld, a road all man must follow. I don’t believe it’s a creation myth but a myth about the nature of the soul, and a battle between the demonic and divine which man is caught between. The Germanic creation myth may be a blending between the divine twin myth and a myth about battling a tyrant. Ymir was not a twin nor the son of Odin, but rather his great grandfather, similar to how Uranus was the father of Saturn, and in some texts Vrtra was the father of Indra. Ymir and Uranus are primordial beings in their respective mythologies and are seen as obstructing creation, Uranus pressing against Gaia and keeping all the titans stuck within her until the world can be freed by Saturn finally severing the two and creating space. Similar to how the dwarves were given life from within Ymir. In the Rig Veda, Vrtra was sometimes said to be Indra’s father, and the world in some hymns was said to be made out of the dead dragon. All of these are aspects of the archetype of the tyrant and his obstruction of creation, but what’s interesting about the Germanic version is the etymology of Ymir, it’s related to Yama but Ymir is not a twin nor is he the son of the sky father, perhaps the Germanic people combined the myth of the tyrant and the myth of the sacrifice of the twin to emphasize the sacrificial aspect of Odin and priests in general in Germanic society. Anyways that’s my two cents.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +4

      Interesting interpretation, thanks for sharing

    • @danieltocci136
      @danieltocci136 2 года назад

      @@Survivethejive great video btw, love your channel

    • @TheMysticTable
      @TheMysticTable 2 года назад

      @@danieltocci136 Just wanted to say that I agree with this interpretation of the myths.

  • @eugenesokol3918
    @eugenesokol3918 5 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video on the universality of yggdrasil and reincarnation. Kudos to the research that went into making this video!

  • @Gungnir762
    @Gungnir762 2 года назад +2

    Love the work. May fortune find you.

  • @jdkayak7868
    @jdkayak7868 2 года назад +1

    Great video, love the connection between the paranormal and historical origins.

  • @sswan5271
    @sswan5271 Месяц назад +1

    If the World Tree myth goes back as far as Upper Palaeolithic Siberia at the height of the Ice Age, it's not surprising they would concieve of Hell as cold and Heaven as warm.

  • @dunmwarupreachan4567
    @dunmwarupreachan4567 Год назад

    I did not know all that about Celtic Afterlife, or Tech Duinn or Caileagh. I learn so much from you and I appreciate the work you do.

  • @_the_wessex_nomad_
    @_the_wessex_nomad_ 8 месяцев назад

    I regret that I have only just watched this. Amazing work, truly inspirational.

  • @marcusporcius9842
    @marcusporcius9842 2 года назад +1

    This is a hard thing to piece together. Doubt I could do better. Love the enthusiastic delivery. The art is knowing where to stop conjecture. One problem is that to any primitive person there is the sky above which holds sway over the world, an earth of unknown depth below where the dead things eventually go and whence water springs and trees which reach between the two clearly drawing life from the two. But I agree the coincidences are too many not to hold some common ancestry. Colours and the ancients are a tricky subject. White and bright are often conflated, even today in languages of less sophisticated peoples. Nice job. Thanks.

  • @PeteV80
    @PeteV80 2 года назад +1

    Been subbed for years and only got notification of this from Telegram.

  • @abhijayverma4700
    @abhijayverma4700 2 года назад +4

    In Bhagavad Gita(XV.1-3), Lord Krishna explains about a divine cosmic tree to Arjuna:-
    The Blessed Lord said: With its original source above (in the Eternal),
    its branches stretching below, the Ashwattha is said to be eternal
    and imperishable; the leaves of it are the hymns of the Veda; he who knows it is the Veda-knower.[1]
    The branches of this cosmic tree extend both below and above
    (below in the material, above in the supraphysical planes), they grow
    by the gunas of Nature; the sensible objects are its foliage,
    downward here into the world of men it plunges its roots of
    attachment and desire with their consequences of an endlessly
    developing action.[2]
    The real form of it cannot be perceived by us in this material
    world
    of man's embodiment, nor its beginning nor its end, nor its
    foundation, having cut down this firmly rooted Ashwattha by the
    strong sword of detachment, one should seek for that highest goal
    whence, once having reached it.[3]
    {Translated by Sri Aurobindo}

  • @raymondfoster9326
    @raymondfoster9326 2 года назад +2

    Awesome video brother 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @dracodistortion9447
    @dracodistortion9447 2 года назад +3

    Astonishing, truly peak Survive the Jive. The wisdom provided in this video made me think I was at the well at the roots of the world tree, taking a swig from a sacred horn. I was pulled back into the realm of the living by the many puns and jokes Mr. Rowsell provided us lol. This video is rewatch-worthy. A real treat.
    I have a question for Tom or anyone else that would like to weigh in. How does one gain the worthiness of eternity after death? Is it by escaping Samsara with good Karma as the Hindus say, or is it by dying in battle with sword in hand like the Norse say? maybe a mix? or perhaps could it be said that a humble man, who is not famed, should not be excluded from the possibility of a noble death? The exhalted humanitarian priest will surely dwell among the highest of gods after he dies, and so must the gallant warrior who sacrificed himself for the good of his people on the battlefield. But what about the lowly farmer whose crops feed the mouths of thousands, who fathered good children and was a faithful husband? What about an intelligent professor who's changed many lives and gave wisdom to crowds of thousands, like Tom himself? Do these humble people claim nobility after death? Or do they go to the cold, Northern feasting-halls of Hel with the rest, or will reincarnation ensnare them too? Or is the field in Jötunnheim where they'll forever be free? any answer from anybody would be much appreciated.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +1

      Rebirth was seen as desirable in Germanic culture and you encourage it by naming children after their dead ancestors. Orphic cult and Buddhists are exceptions but both were seen as untraditional by contemporaries

    • @dracodistortion9447
      @dracodistortion9447 2 года назад +1

      @@Survivethejive I see. Rebirth shouldn't be feared, it should be welcomed, because one's soul will live on in their descendants. An eternal heirloom, perhaps. Meditation material.
      Thank you for your feedback, Tom!

    • @nevisysbryd7450
      @nevisysbryd7450 2 года назад

      While this varies by particular sect, from my understanding, liberation from Samsara is not achieved by 'good' Karma but by transcending Karma altogether (moksha). Buddhist and Hindu conceptualizations of the afterlife and reincarnation are more akin to the Abrahamic concern of some sort of ultimate salvation than to western Indo-European 'immortality through fame/merit' notions.

    • @dracodistortion9447
      @dracodistortion9447 2 года назад

      @@nevisysbryd7450 i was under the impression that moksha was achieved via good karma, karma so good that it achieves moksha. But Hinduism is very diverse like you said, it's more akin to the term "Abrahamism" or "Paganism" than it is akin to "Rastafari" or "Hellenism"

    • @nevisysbryd7450
      @nevisysbryd7450 2 года назад

      @@dracodistortion9447 'Good' karma is still karma. While moksha is, broadly, achieved within one's dharma, dharma is about aligning to cosmic/universal ordering principles, nature, and obligations, not about the consequences of causality with respect to behavior, which is karma, or karma's reincarnation cycle as samsara. While the exact meaning and conflation of moksha with related concepts varies by school of thought, term 'moksha' usually refers quite specifically to _some_ form of liberation from karma and samsara altogether. Schools of thought that emphasize cultivating 'good karma' usually de-emphasize or entirely dismiss moksha, and schools that emphasize moksha tend to regard _all_ karma as maintaining the prison of suffering that is samsara.

  • @1492dv
    @1492dv 2 года назад +1

    I'm only part of the way through it, but I notice the connection with the Greek Elysian Fields. Of course it does make sense, though.

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 Месяц назад +1

    When historians say that all these traditions must simply come from a common ancestor, it strikes me as what a neuroscientist woul say ''ah, religion is just a bug of the mind that humans have'', it being so widespread, so specific, dreamt of by people who dont even know the myths, seen by people who take psychedelic drugs... It seems real from so many intuitive angles. There has to be something to it.

  • @CeltainianChronicals
    @CeltainianChronicals Год назад

    Amazing video! This is everything I want in a video about history. Mythology, historical facts, feel like your travelling through time and cultural, a mystery to solve. 10/10 My next video will be similar. You're certainly an inspiration, thank you!

  • @bwtilesetter7776
    @bwtilesetter7776 2 года назад

    This is amazing!! Thank you. To be reborn or raised from the dead is to remember your past lives.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, but no it isn't because your past lives are washed away before you are reborn

    • @bwtilesetter7776
      @bwtilesetter7776 2 года назад

      @@Survivethejive no

  • @azamutu1413
    @azamutu1413 2 года назад +2

    Outstanding

  • @andyoates8392
    @andyoates8392 2 года назад +2

    The story of the seven sisters is the one I assumed to be the oldest. There are versions shared by different cultures on every continent.

    • @andreasolsen3962
      @andreasolsen3962 2 года назад

      Search for dreams of paradise - bock saga on youtube

  • @kingtkuehn
    @kingtkuehn 2 года назад +4

    Hi! The Living God was here.. Odin Rules..

  • @jeromemartinez5603
    @jeromemartinez5603 Год назад +1

    This has connected my experiences, so much of the Sundance ritual is reflected here, as is the are the use of severed heads, Buffalo (Tatanka) horse ( Sunkawakan) and faithful war ponies of deceased honorable warriors were prepared and eventually painted and gifted to the warriors family to watch over them in the family lodge, and being of both cultures this was enriching!!!! Wicohan wakan, the sacred way.

  • @HA-jh3cg
    @HA-jh3cg 8 месяцев назад

    I've watched this like 4 times now, would be nice if you could one day write a book on this topic...

  • @TheSuperEverests
    @TheSuperEverests Год назад

    Verywell done young Sir excellent summery. Have subscribed and will watch all your videos

  • @narahs22
    @narahs22 2 года назад +1

    your videos are incredible!

  • @neolithictransitrevolution427
    @neolithictransitrevolution427 7 месяцев назад +1

    I do think its possible multiple dogs were named Growl.

  • @bunddeutscherunitarier9909
    @bunddeutscherunitarier9909 2 года назад +1

    We would like to add an often overlooked detail to your inspiring documentation. The Gothic word fairhvus meaning "world" is a cognate to Latin quercus meaning "oak" (PIE *perkwus). This could allude to the world tree as an oak. A derivation of the Proto-Germanic *ferhwu- is *ferhwa-, a word for a kind of life force, handed down in Anglo-Saxon feorh, Old High German ferah and Old Norse fjör. Human beings as having this force were called *ferhwioz, in A-S firas, in OHG firaha and in ON firar.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад

      But this isn't cognate with Germanic words for oak

    • @bunddeutscherunitarier9909
      @bunddeutscherunitarier9909 2 года назад

      @@Survivethejive It is. Lombardian fereha, fercha "aesculus" and combined with Proto-Germanic *aik- in Old High German fereh-eih.

    • @bunddeutscherunitarier9909
      @bunddeutscherunitarier9909 2 года назад

      Of course, the language is called Lombardic, not Lombardian, sorry. And I admit, these are not the "usual" Germanic words for oak, but relics. As can be seen in Latin quercus and aesculus (probably from *aig-sklos, like Greek aigilops cognate with Germanic *aik- in oak, Eiche etc.), PIE had different words for oak.

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 года назад +1

    May I note something people seem to ignore that I have noticed within celtic myth and language. Sucellos, a gallo-roman god often associated with the underworld both through his marriage to Nantosuelta who is thought to be a reflex of the same goddess as the Morrigan, and his own similarity to the irish god Dagda, is thought to have a name meaning "the good striker".
    This I find to be incorrect in my opinion, as the root kel, which is shown throughout this video is indeed found in celtic languages, and I believe that Sucellos comes from older Suceltos meaning "the good/well hidden one" and also explains the ethnonym Celtae / Keltoi recorded by the Romans and Greeks, as it would be in reference to them believing themselves to be the descendants of Sucellos.
    May I note for the linguistics nerds that -lt- could have definitely become -ll-, as -ln- also becomes -ll- and assimilations of that sort also seemed to have happened with -st- which became -ss- perhaps with an intermediary stage of -ts-
    Also -t- is considered to be a past tense infix in verbs, so it would make sense in amending the root of kel- to kelt-
    Also, Persephone being in Hades half the year, and at Olympus the other half sounds like one way of interpreting a goddess being half alive and youthful and half decayed and dead...

    • @nevisysbryd7450
      @nevisysbryd7450 2 года назад

      That is distinct to Hellenic Persephone and not previous (ie, Mycenaean) iterations, though. As far as we can tell, Hades as an entity was invented during the Greek Dark Age and the Persephone (possibly in tandem with Poseidon) was the ruler of the underworld Hades.
      Mind, Persephone herself was venerated in two distinct characterizations, one as the maiden daughter of the goddess of agriculture (Kore) and the other as queen of the underworld (Persephone translates as 'she who slays').

  • @jopeteus
    @jopeteus 2 года назад

    We have a world tree in Finnish ancient religion too called Iso tammi. Other Uralic cultures do too, like the Hungarians

  • @NyxiiPyxii
    @NyxiiPyxii Год назад

    Thank you so much for your knowledge. You are an exceptional man.

  • @nmvhr
    @nmvhr 2 года назад +1

    getting more documentary style. nice.

  • @ehalverson9323
    @ehalverson9323 Год назад +1

    Very similar but different in so many ways to Ojibwe. There is no such as hell. And we have 8 realms 4 of earth and four above. On the moon side represent cedar and on the sun side represents the maple and in the center the great oak.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Год назад

      Hel in Anglo-Saxon religion just means an earth realm below where the dead go

  • @matthabir4837
    @matthabir4837 2 года назад +12

    Never say YT doesn't have a sense of humour: monkey-music and pro-illegal alien adverts on this vid...

  • @ToqTheWise
    @ToqTheWise 2 года назад

    One problem with Germanic cosmology is that Snorri basically turned the world tree on its side. According to the works of Victor Rydberg, based primarily on the Poetic Edda, Yggdrasil is conical with Hel, Niflhel, Alfheim, Surts Sökkdalir (Snorri’s Muspelheim), and Vanaheim at the base of the tree in a realm called Jörmungrund or “great ground”. Midgard and Jotunheim are in the middle of the tree, separated by a river, and Asgard sits atop the tree. I believe as well that the three Wells of Power (Mimir's Well, Urd's Well, and Hvergelmir) are important within Eddic cosmology as they represent a triadic expression of The One from which the Gods derive power and divine authority. We see each well has power in it's own right: Mimir's Well contains the mead of wisdom (which Snorri identifies as the mead of poetry), Urd's Well is said to contain a "strength giving liquid" and possibly aurr (a white, rejuvenating clay likely made from Audhumla's milk), and finally Hvergelmir is not only the source of all waters but also contains a "fortifying liquid". It is also where the Gods built the Grotti-Mill, the place where they ground up Ymir's body to make the world and the birthplace of Heimdall.
    We also see that each Well and It's caretaker are responsible for one of the essential cosmic processes. The Nornir reside at Urd's Well and it's from this well that Urd pronounces Orlog and takes up the fibers that are spun into thread and woven into the Web of Wyrd. The Gods assemble at Mimir's Well and this is where Odin passes judgment of the dead. Lastly, Lodurr-Ve is said to reside over the Grotti-Mill at Hvergelmir. He is the Son of Borr which gave us our lich, he's also the king of dwarves, and once again according to the works of Victor Rydberg, He delivers the fruits of Yggdrasil which are borne on fire to pregnant woman, giving human beings our souls.
    Finally, to my recollection only two Gods have drunk from all three of the wells (possibly three, I can't remember if Freyr has but that sounds familiar), Odin and Heimdall. Odin is the King of The Gods, his divine authority is evident. Heimdall was tasked to travel to Midgard and deliver Divine Law to humanity (the Runes of Eternity and the Runes of Earthly Life) and He gave us much of our early technology, helped us build our society, and sanctified the caste system. I believe He was able to do this because He had been endowed with the same authority as Odin, given to Them both by the three Wells of Power, ᚨᛚᚢ.

  • @fihilist
    @fihilist 2 года назад

    Ever think of a collab with Δlpha Affirmations channel, asmr stuff with your poetic/cultural knowledge? Or doing some sort of inspirational/asmr poetic reading yourself? :)

  • @peterzoeftig2513
    @peterzoeftig2513 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this and your other wonderful videos, which I have watched since first listening to you on Henrik Palmgren's show From Runes to Ruin: Anglo-Saxon Heathen Culture in 2015 or so.
    I wonder if you have also looked at David Talbot's and Wallace Thornhill (RIP)'s work in the Electric Universe/Thunderbolts research into the mythological proto-Saturn - the "original" and "best" sun (before the capture of that planetary system by our current sun - sol) which argues, via an analysis of the so-called "Purple Dawn of Creation" and Saturnian Golden Age which placed Saturn (probably just before the global flood) at the top of the northern axis as a fixed point around which everything rotated, and to which Earth was connected via a (electrically-charged plasma) bridge that from a standpoint on Earth would have appeared as a great tree stretching upwards. Felice Vinci in his work arguing that the Homeric epics were originally located in the Baltic, mentions that Homeric houses were built around trees (Odysseus' house, like that of the Nordic king Völsung, is built around a tree), and locates Hades in the northern Kola Peninsula, and the Styx as the Livorjarvi river in a similar region. These stories were carried to the Mediterranean region by the archaic Achaeans at the end of the postglacial climactic optimum, argues Vinci, carrying with them at the same time the memory of a much-changed environment and the legends that were adopted by the Mycenaeans, often incorrectly. They in fact refer to a distant time, still recorded in Norse myth as well, of a mysterious land that was further north than the frozen wastelands of Hades (near to the White Sea) that was warm and filled with meadows, but was unreachable except by the tortuous journey through Hades, and where there was an eternal summer of the Elysian Fields, arguably - if one agrees with the Saturn Myth proposed by Wallace and Thornhill - made possible by the peculiar electric relationship caused by the plasma bridge, elsewhere referred to as a tree, or a stairway to heaven, or Mount Olympus, the abode of the gods. This great wheel turning in the northern sky was Saturn, and this is where the cross-inside-a-circle was witnessed by all humanity that had a view of the northern skies at that time, while our present sun was a more distant speck - but one getting ever closer until it disrupted this primordial planetary system. Of course, Immanuel Velikovsky also researched this and other mythical phenomena related by cultures all over the world, in great detail, reaching back to the age of Saturn.
    Another point I'd be very interested to know your thoughts on, is the bi-cameral mind theory set out by Julian Jaynes, that states that the origins of consciousness date from around the 2nd millennium BCE, when conscious thought may have been first accessed by language, leading to a rationalisation of mythological images and constructions (perhaps the cosmic events that are hypothesised above?) and also meaning that an older non-conscious mentality that he calls the bicameral mind, existed prior to this, where voices heard inside the heads of humans - who knows, perhaps resulting from the overwhelming force of electrified plasma in the skies? - were heard as instructions and real communication from the gods.
    It would be very interesting to know your views on this and on Felice Vinci's very well-researched and argued thesis, which I believe is well-known.

  • @Balefulmoon
    @Balefulmoon 2 года назад

    Excellent work!

  • @bluethyme
    @bluethyme 2 года назад +1

    I'm commenting to say I liked the ad for the Scottish title certificate 😆 why isn't that its own video??

  • @frankiesomeone
    @frankiesomeone 2 года назад +1

    Good doc, fascinating

  • @thegreenmage6956
    @thegreenmage6956 2 года назад +1

    The quote from Iona is something to meditate upon for sure, and I had as yet never heard it said… “The saved are not forever happy, the damned not forever lost”.
    I do so wish you would not insist on using the bagpipes for the Celts, they remain the least Celtic instrument, the lyre or brass horns would be better.
    The only instrument related to the bagpipes could have been the triple pipes, which you will be familiar with from your interest in Sardinia, but the spread and usage of this instrument in Celtic culture is unclear, and they seem to be related to some kind of Celtic Aulos.
    In any case, still not characteristically Celtic.
    I believe you also missed an important and valuable comparison in the figure of British Avallach, as a parallel to Donn, and Avalon as “the land of Apples”, which merits comparison to Valhalla and the concept of Nirvana, for which the Glastonbury Tor, once surrounded by water, is an earthly symbol and syphon for religious, spiritual focus (not for any hippy ‘energy’ reasons, merely because it would LOOK like the objective of the elevated afterlife vision quest upon which to focus the mind).
    Nonetheless, your production values continue to reach staggering new heights, your work will only further enlighten and bring salvation to many, many people.
    Many thanks, diolch i chi ac am eich gwybod.
    Edit: you also did not mention the Mag Mell, the fields of honey, another “pleasant place like a meadow”.

  • @deebs12
    @deebs12 2 года назад +1

    I do need some help. I’m trying to find good English versions of the Vedas. Apparently some of the versions sold online (like with Penguin Publishing) and others are deliberately translated in a way so as to support pro-Western liberal ideas, etc. So, I’m trying to find a version of the four Vedas without these corruptions.
    Also, I love your videos; the videos on Evola on Buddhism and Guenon on Hinduism are my favorites thus far. Cheers.

  • @gilgoofthegrove5072
    @gilgoofthegrove5072 Год назад

    great work!

  • @ivornelsson2238
    @ivornelsson2238 Год назад

    Thanks for this video.
    Why do you associate the 1/3 part of the Norse Worlds, the Jotumheim realm, to be “a realm of enemies”?

  • @Phil_597
    @Phil_597 Год назад +1

    What the hel? Why did youtube restrict this? I had to click through that 18 etc. wish to proceed BS.

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  Год назад

      I don't know, they wont tell me or let me appeal

  • @germgoblin5313
    @germgoblin5313 2 года назад

    Other interesting things about the Algonquin peoples is that they not only had kurgan-like burial mounds, but that they buried their dead geometrically accurately to the True North because they believed that that was where the afterlife was located and where spirits would travel after death, quite interesting considering the Indo-European underworld also seems to be associated with the north. Actually dare I venture into tinfoil hat territory, but we now know with the Ket/Navajo and the Karitiana people that there have been multiple immigrations into the Americas, and a lot of people from the 1960s actually believed the possibility that the Burial mound tradition found in the Hopewell and Adena cultures possibly linked to Algonquins / Siouans may have originated from a recent immigration from Siberia into the Americas during the dawn of the Bronze Age, as they possessed similar Ceramic styles and burial practices to Northern Europe and North Asia at the time, as well as Kurgan-like burials and copper metalworking. (Non-Indo-European) R1 DNA also displaces the usual Q YDNA homogeneity in Native Americans like Algonquins and Eskimos near the beginning of this culture, as does the West Eurasian mtDNA Haplogroup X of Solutrean hypothesis fame. Could this be evidence of indo-european immigration? No way, as none of the IE specific ancestry, language or technology is there. But could this be evidence of Pre-Indo-European, ANE rich West Siberian Hunter Gatherers migrating into the Americas? Well maybe. Its pretty fringe and I don't think I've ever seen anyone make a modern day argument for it. But it would explain I think why the myth of the Sioux and Algonquins in particular has so much overlap with Indo-European cosmology if they were descended from a contemporaneous North Eurasian population to them. Anyway, thats my tinfoil idea

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 года назад

      Well native Americans and Eskimo have ANE ancestry

  • @owenamenta1
    @owenamenta1 Год назад

    Great video

  • @ovrair6340
    @ovrair6340 2 года назад +1

    I didn't get this in my subscription feed, odd