The problem with Rugby in Australia is that most of the talented young rugby players want to play NRL not union. The failure of the Provincial teams and the Wallabies to remain competitive against has seen the support for the game slowly ebb away. The result is none of the major broadcasters want to pay anything like they do for the NRL and the ARL. Without the media exposure younger people will no longer be attracted to the sport and the game will continue on a downward spiral. In my opinion one of the worst things that has happened to Rugby in Australia was the reappointment of Eddie Jones the campaigns that he was in charge of were mismanaged disasters. Even as an NRL supporter I hope that the ARU can fight back and once again become a force in the world game. The Australian public will support an Aussie team in any code when they show that they have a fighting spirit even when they are on a losing streak.... the rubbish they have been dishing out over recent years hasnt won too many fans. I used to drive reguarly from Newcastle down to Sydney to watch both the Super 12 and the Wallabies games nowadays if they were playing in a park across the road I would think twice about going.
Agree with most of what you say, but I don't know that most talented , young players "want " to go to the NRL, it is just that lately it is seen as a more secure option. The biggest problem facing Australian rugby at present is the ARU, they just cannot seem to make the right decisions, from coaching appointments, ( getting Eddie Jones back was possibly the worst ever call) to the whole confected outrage over Issy, to knocking back sponsorship and the list goes on. Now they find themselves up that creek without a boat or paddle. The grass root clubs have been neglected and underfunded for years is it any wonder that young players look elsewhere.
Disagree Australian Rugby lost it all when they signed every game of Super 12 to Fox with zero free to air games. Then diverted all that profit to QLD and NSW, ACT and the Wallabies. They then turned on their own juniors by reducing funding and then when fox ratings were dropping they panicked and bought a whole lot of NRL players again snubbing their noses at their own juniors. That what happens when Accountants run businesses.
New Zealand will be heading the same way ever since South Africa withdrew from Super Rugby this will give the northern hemisphere teams will be powerhouses Ireland and France are looking like future World Cup champions along with South Africa and England. Rugby League is now the more dominant Rugby code in both Australia and New Zealand.
The reason they go to rugby league is that unless you’re an elitist rich boy from a private school there is zero pathways to be a professional rugby player in Australia, so they get to around 15-16 and switch to league as they’re more likely to get a professional career out of it. Rugby Australia turned their nose up at grassroots rugby and instead spent their money on trying to sign “big names” as they thought it would sell tickets instead of trying to actually develop the best young talent and have paid the price for it.
@@andrew_l1900 Exactly right, after the 2 world cup victories they forgot about the juniors/clubs etc and spent all the money on admin, execs and star players, the result less talent coming through.
Its a classist sport, even now only rich white private school kids play union. While NRL makes it a mission to go into indigeneous, pacific and poerer areas to promote the sport. It's sad as an immigrant not having a union team to support Ive also made the switch to rugby league.
Umm the non tradgic and entirely predictable downfall of Australian Rugby. Darwin said that it's not the fittest that survive, but those most able to adapt to change. Rugby as a code, hates to change their own rules. Cos, tradition. And Australian Rugby prefers for Rugby to be the province of Private Schools old boys. Cos...old boys networks. Explains much, yes?
As an NRL fan i decided to give a South Africa Vs Wallabies game a go when they came to Townsville. Went with an open mind. However the game was so slow and confusing that we spent the whole time drinking and chatting away...casually cheering when something did happen. It doesn't have the intensity of Rugby League where if you blink you might miss something. I did notice a lot of south african fans getting into it tho. Am guessing they have never watched an NRL game.
The problem isn't the game itself, you found it confusing and refused to understand it, prefering to "drinking and chatting away". It's like those people saying NFL is boring without trying to understand it and it's annoying. Have you ever wondered that those South Africans have actually watched an NRL game but still prefer union? you know, because they actually understand it?
@@majorowe well thankfully I wasn't talking about you, I was taking about the guy that made the comment. I have also watched league but prefer union, but to say you don't like a sport you haven't even tried to enjoy is just stupid
@@SteveWarleeUnions only hope in Australia is to also appeal to NRL fans, so when NRL fans are told to “stay in ur lane”, it’s no wonder most Australians don’t give a toss about rugby union
Aussie rugby decline started with the expansion of teams in the super comp. Earlier Aussie rugby success was built on having 3 powerful states, and expansion diluted the strengths of those teams. With limited player resources, Aussie rugby has always been on a knife’s edge. Even back in the Bob Dwyer heyday they had to draw blood from a stone to be competitive. So expansion would never benefit Aussie rugby, and diluting the strengths of those 3 powerhouse states would turn Australia into a backwater rugby nation.
The problem wasn't the expansion, it was the fact that those new teams only had australian players to work with, while there should be freedom of movement of players between australia and new zealand. If there was more parity, the competition would be way better
They don't have enough talent for 5 super rugby team. They need to reduce it to three. If those teams are stacked with talent and competitive, 80 odd players is more than enough to chose from. They have good coach now, good luck to them
Agreed. 3 super rugby teams will make the Wallabies more competitive. You saw how strong they were in the late 90s and early 2000s because of that. They need to stack there 3 teams with quality players which will bring a winning culture and confidence which will seep into the international game
Too much competition from Aussie Rules, NRL and cricket. Plus soccer and basketball have come to prominence in Australia too. It’s sad when you think of were Australia used to be to the position they find themselves now, plus the decline shows no signs of stopping.
7:00pm, mid winter at the Triabunna footy ground on the east coast of Tasmania, under lights, freezing cold, dozens of kids as young as four are gleefully chasing a Sherrin footy around as part of the successful Auskick program. Same thing happening across Australia in league and soccer no doubt. When rugby gets down to that level of cultural relevance it might have a chance. But for now it is a dusty old empire sport, beset by baffling rules, dinning out on 30 year old glories and the occasional win over much weaker opposition. Time to gently walk rugby down to the day room for a cuppa and singalong.
Daft there is so much investment in a game that virtually no other country plays- so you cannot have regular international competitions and a World Cup. Though it does supply good punters to American football.
What the world needs to understand is the competition for high performance Australian athletes across several football codes. More different codes than any other nation. League and AFL.
New Zealand is not far behind. Rugby globally is on a long term decline in popularity thanks largely to the incompetence the governing body world rugby. It's lost entertainment value as a spectacle thanks to dreadful rules and officials destroying continuity of play. It's a poor shadow of the game it once was. In fact it is complete crap now and unwatchable.
ARU have just constantly mismanaged the sport to the extent it's not the best option for young athletes given the competition from other winter sports.
When they sacked Folau because of his religious beliefs, they crossed the line and have not recovered since. They are lucky he wasn't more aggressive in his lawsuit.
Wrong. Folau could not create a defence as he was not quoting scripture. He was intrepretating scripture that had been disowned by his own church. I have to wonder, though. Do you agree with his statements whereby the rights of Australians should be degraded because they identify as gay? Further as folau was trying to use the old testament, do you agree that you should be able to sell your sister into slavery and prostitution or kill your mother because she wears garments of different threads etc given that the defence is its the Bible?
@@riveness - Maybe so, but he is an outspoken believer of Jesus Christ. It boils down to the same thing. I respect him for his belief and faith, no matter the consequences.
Is Australia trying to do too much within its limited boarders? They are obviously excellent at cricket and ruby league, as well as having their own version of another sort of ball game. The population is obviously very small, and can only support so much. As others are saying, Union is under a lot of its own problems, what with the continual attempts at self improvement, linked with the adoption of so many League players into coaching and management. Obviously as manager of Ireland, Farrell snr. has been very successful, along with others interspersed over the years, there have been some good along with a load of questionable bad. Whereas none of us want Union to merge into League, we can recognise the problems caused by the stupidity of whatever props get up to, which is just slowing the game down dramatically. We don’t want penalties every time a scrum is awarded, that is so stupidly out of balance. I suppose we can all think of loads of things that should be left alone, but of course going backwards appears to be impossible.
Melbourne Rebels and ACT Brumbies in administration, poor attendances and tv ratings, very little sponsorship, junior playing numbers declining and general interest in the sport at an all time low. Rugby in Australia really is on its knees
Brumbies have been the mainstay of rugby in Aus for how many years. NSW and QLD dominate at board level. That’s the problem. The only Aus team that kiwis fear are the brumbies so you need to do your homework
@davidfife-nm7uy I'm talking about their finances, do some research yourself, and you'll discover that South Sydney went broke in 1972 after being in 5 grand finals winning 4.
I live in melbourne, no one knew the rebels even existed and no one seemed to care that they were gone I think there is a limited pathway in terms of professionalism within the code unlike some other sports, also its not well supported outside certain niches
The ARU need to accept their failures and move on and dig themselves out the hole they put themselves in. The easy solution could be is bringing grassroots rugby back to public schools but in my opinion that’s too far gone. That’s a 10 year rebuild project and let’s face it- the Wallabies don’t have 10 years in them to keep going the way they are. They need to come up with ideas to keep their talented players playing rugby and treat them like they’re a priority. There’s a lot of talented league kids who can’t crack it in the NRL so they head overseas to play elsewhere (even switching to rugby union in the US, Japan etc). Run academies and camps to keep them in Australia to try out for rugby. Keep them intrigued and teach them the basic fundamentals. I’m sure most of those kids would love to keep playing whilst being close to home. The fact the ARU let Jordan Mailata walk out the door and sign with the Philadelphia Eagles is indicative of how weak their scouting system is. Sure, he might’ve not been a good fit but at least approach the man which they can’t even do something so simple as that 🤦
2015, winning a shortened Rugby Championship tournament of like 3 games then being ''runners up'' , not bad but definitely not something to consider ''peak'' Wales, Ireland, South Africa, England, France have all leapfrogged the Wallabies and actually made it to rank 1 , Something Australia has never done despite historically being dominant over most of those teams.
@@joshanderson9391 You're right, I still think being unable to get rank 1 over the last 20 years counts against them though. I swear there's like a conspiracy against the wallabies within the World Rugby / IRB. They're pretty much the most penalised team regardless of who they select, they also have 15 world player of the year nominations with 0 wins (more nominations than France (3 wins), Ireland (3 wins), England (1 win) and Wales (1 win) ) and then you mention they also conveniently introduced the world rankings right after Australia stopped being world champs 🤔
Yea Structure, Number of SR teams, iffy Coaches May all have a part to play in ARU decline but my view (from afar) is that lack of funds/ Investment is the real issue! To ensure RWC 2027 and Lions tour success, the Aus Government will have to fund ARU to acquire the best football talent from AFL/NRL/ Aus expats! More investment in Academies/Schools and Clubs! Once the momentum is there, Fans/Revenue and success will follow! World Rugby needs a strong Australia!
This is a very shallow analysis, if you can call it an analysis at all. It's basically a statement of history and nothing more. The biggest problem that Australian rugby has is participation. That's had been declining since the early 2000s. Australia's competition structure is non existent and doesn't create a spectacle that can compete with AFL or NRL. Moving a 3rd tier sport to pay view is definitely not going to help either. There are some holes in the dyke! At the moment none of the holes are being plugged
This video does not address the cancers at play in Australian rugby but repeats annual performance results. Australian rugby drew its talent from the ranks of private school rugby schoolboys. This bank of talent has been eroded by the introduction of alternate sports. Rule changes have changed the international ‘running’ game. Limited open space to attack have turned this game into a rugby league look alike - a feature that has turned rugby into an inches contest rather than the free flowing and strategic contest based on forward strength and back line flair. Turn over the international rugby board. Return to the old rules. Bring back grass roots support for suburban and club rugby development in Australia. Rugby in Australia is about to collapse.
Good call. God doesn't intervene during nuclear disasters, floods and pandemics that kill millions. His trigger is obviously the sacking of an ignorant bigoted rugby player disliked the world over. Why stop covid when he can punish a national rugby team with poor results. Grow up please
Australia never give Rennie a chance to rebuild the wallabies. They opt to go for Jones and failed miserably. Now they want another kiwi to take over.They should stay with Rennie and Rennie can rebuild the team.
Part of it was sacking folks because of his personal opinion..cmon it was his own personal opinion..n Australia Rugby took it personally..maybe that s why many folks went the other way..because ur voice does not to be heard🤔
No. I think Ireland will win 2027. Australia will win 2035. In between we will see New Zealand win. 2039 England. 2043 France, 2047 Ireland. 2051 South Africa 2055 Argentina
I so much say exactly the same. He was a star, but the Woke agenda got hold of dictating into the Union’s authority, and it suffered dramatically. That guy was a real threat in every match. It’s not as if Australia is loaded with so much individual talent that they can throw it away.
Australia needs a successful national competition, not just a provincial competition……Super Rugby no longer captures the imagination like it did during 90’s and 2000’s….
AFL is the 4th most attended sporting league in the world. Good players can make great money playing in front of 30,000 - 50,000 people every game. The NRL (rugby league) is the second most popular sport. Young guys can make good money playing in a very well run tournament that is a higher skill standard than any rugby comp in the world. Media coverage of both sports is high in Australia. Then there’s the wallabies that travel all over the world losing. A super rugby comp that can’t pay good young players decent money with awful crowd attendances and little media interest.
@@grantandrew18 listen to you big boi 😂 in Australia they do and they average about 30,000 people to a game. They get paid more than the average pro rugby player as well.
Australia has done nothing to develop the game of union and yet for some inane reason it has been given the honour of hosting the next World Cup. Make that make sense. I ask on behalf of South Africa, the country that was supposed to host the 2023 World Cup until the French took it, and that has produced more World Cup winners than any other.
Well did south africa bid for the next world cup? or was given to Australia by default? Least south africa can reuse soccer city (or whatever that 90k stadium it had for fifa world cup) for a rugby world cup if so they choose to host in the future rather than that other ground (err Ellis Park at 60k?)
I think this video had a lot of potential, but it falls short on a lot of levels. 1- it only starts in the 90s, while ignoring that, until the late 80s, the Wallabies were mediocre. This video makes it look like the Wallabies were on par with the springboks and ABs when they really weren't, they just had a golden generation during the 90s. 2- You can't analyze Australian rugby's downfall by just looking at their national team results, you also have to look at Super Rugby and grassroots. The truth is that Super Rugby doesn't work as a competition, it's pretty much just a training ground for Wallabies and All Blacks, therefore, it's a shit competition that doesn't generate interest in Australia. That lack of interest then reflects on the Wallabies
So I guess if is going shit for Australia, im sure NZ will follow in that regards. But maybe what give NZ to hold on is the limited choices of sport (since NRL didn't make much of an effort as they should and AFL in NZ would be a joke in all regards). But in Australia, there are many choices in sports and therefor its gives an easier excuse for aussies to show a lack of interest if they don't make union interesting....
australian rugby is continuing its downward spiral. so many bad ARU management decisions have resulted in fans, players and money leaving australian rugby. the next few years are financially crucial to rugby union in australia. the lions tour and world cup. a SUCCESSFUL australian rugby team in the next few years is the key to rugby union remaining a important sport in australia. ps. thanks.... great video...!
RA should have never axed Rennie. I realise hindsight is a wonderful thing, but there was a very high probability he would have got the Wallabies to last year's WC semi-finals. They were on the right track. Saying that, I've got high hopes for Joe Schmidt to turn them around. He did wonders with Ireland as well as the All Blacks recently. He's a top-tier coach. About time RA made a smart decision for once.
Sacking Renie and bringing back Eddie Jones was the most brain dead call in international sports management I can remember. Ten minutes after being sacked by England, RA was falling over itself to get him, discarding Rennie along the way. I was baffled. Good grief, England sacked him for a reason!! It seemed like someone in RA had a Jones fetish with no basis of logic at all. Later events proved this.
Simple really, woke leaders, average players overpaid, can’t complain about the new Cadbury sponsorship. Epitomises the decision makers & player's, a bit hard on the outside but soft inside. Worried for the new coach, hope he’s not too hard on boys. History shows that he won’t last long if upsets too many of them.
RUgby has failed to grow. IT hasnt broken into any new markets and has struggled even in its strongholds. Rugby lacks thrill, lots of weird rules, lacks breathtaking athleticism also its very conservative i blame the federations the governing body and also Rgby players lack charisma "no larger than life personalities". Sport is abot being unpredictable, in Rgby we know only 4 teams can win the world cup. IN Football, Basketball,etc you never know. Its been close to 200 years and Still rugby is strggling.
Viewers know why nobody watches rugby any more. The penalties, which play a large part of scoring, are hardly ever explained properly by the commentary or the refs for the viewers. The organisation in charge is clueless. They must be a bunch of old farts. NRL refs call it over the PA.
If there was a powerful rugby league competition in South Africa or New Zealand, it would be interesting to see how competitive these teams would be….i reckon ordinary!
Australian rugby always produces lots of talented players. It will continue to do so. But the ARU has made a lot of bad decisions. Joe Schmidt knows what he is doing though and as an Ireland fan I can say with confidence that he will lift them up off the floor. The RWC was as pathetic as I have ever seen an Aus team and it was Eddie Jones disastrous appointment at the heart of it.
As a Brit I think it would be worth mentioning that RU is not even in the top three sports in Australia following Aussie Rules, Cricket and National Rugby League. Rugby Union in Australia has been incredibly successful in the past regardless of what its received in the form of funding. Coaches from down under have been largely responsible for the transformation of northern hemisphere rugby. I think Aussie Rugby is in a temporary slump due to lack of outstanding players. Its not a unique problem, look at England and Wales at the moment. Im pretty sure Aussie Rugby Union will be back with a bang in the not to distant future. Once the Wallabies find their winning ways again the money will come back.
Its not even top 4! Football is more popular nationwide than rugby is, in large parts of australia rugby isn't even popular I remember seeing a few wallabies in the streets of melbourne and no one recognised them I think the sport has never really expanded beyond the private schools of nsw and qld
@@CrudupZopf-ns4drYou only lost the RWC by a single point The Boks played a safer game. Very safe. Also a bit boring I think that’s what you have to do beat em
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Australia is now a genuine Tier 2 international team. Australia just does not have quality players anymore. Proof? Not one Wallaby would make a World 15…. Or a second World 15…. Or a third World 15…. ARU gave up developing players more than a decade ago. Current Wallabies just don’t have the talent, skills, or knowledge to compete at the highest level. Wallabies and rugby in Australia is broken and cannot be fixed…. Sad. Tragic.
The problem with Rugby in Australia is that most of the talented young rugby players want to play NRL not union. The failure of the Provincial teams and the Wallabies to remain competitive against has seen the support for the game slowly ebb away. The result is none of the major broadcasters want to pay anything like they do for the NRL and the ARL. Without the media exposure younger people will no longer be attracted to the sport and the game will continue on a downward spiral. In my opinion one of the worst things that has happened to Rugby in Australia was the reappointment of Eddie Jones the campaigns that he was in charge of were mismanaged disasters. Even as an NRL supporter I hope that the ARU can fight back and once again become a force in the world game. The Australian public will support an Aussie team in any code when they show that they have a fighting spirit even when they are on a losing streak.... the rubbish they have been dishing out over recent years hasnt won too many fans. I used to drive reguarly from Newcastle down to Sydney to watch both the Super 12 and the Wallabies games nowadays if they were playing in a park across the road I would think twice about going.
Agree with most of what you say, but I don't know that most talented , young players "want " to go to the NRL, it is just that lately it is seen as a more secure option. The biggest problem facing Australian rugby at present is the ARU, they just cannot seem to make the right decisions, from coaching appointments, ( getting Eddie Jones back was possibly the worst ever call) to the whole confected outrage over Issy, to knocking back sponsorship and the list goes on. Now they find themselves up that creek without a boat or paddle. The grass root clubs have been neglected and underfunded for years is it any wonder that young players look elsewhere.
Disagree Australian Rugby lost it all when they signed every game of Super 12 to Fox with zero free to air games. Then diverted all that profit to QLD and NSW, ACT and the Wallabies. They then turned on their own juniors by reducing funding and then when fox ratings were dropping they panicked and bought a whole lot of NRL players again snubbing their noses at their own juniors. That what happens when Accountants run businesses.
New Zealand will be heading the same way ever since South Africa withdrew from Super Rugby this will give the northern hemisphere teams will be powerhouses Ireland and France are looking like future World Cup champions along with South Africa and England. Rugby League is now the more dominant Rugby code in both Australia and New Zealand.
The reason they go to rugby league is that unless you’re an elitist rich boy from a private school there is zero pathways to be a professional rugby player in Australia, so they get to around 15-16 and switch to league as they’re more likely to get a professional career out of it. Rugby Australia turned their nose up at grassroots rugby and instead spent their money on trying to sign “big names” as they thought it would sell tickets instead of trying to actually develop the best young talent and have paid the price for it.
@@andrew_l1900 Exactly right, after the 2 world cup victories they forgot about the juniors/clubs etc and spent all the money on admin, execs and star players, the result less talent coming through.
Next year’s Lions Tour could be brutal.
Hopefully it isn’t!
What about this years Wales tour even that could be a problem
@@Will.Flavellhow bout now👀
Its a classist sport, even now only rich white private school kids play union. While NRL makes it a mission to go into indigeneous, pacific and poerer areas to promote the sport. It's sad as an immigrant not having a union team to support Ive also made the switch to rugby league.
The sport will exist in Australia like ice hockey does. A fringe sport played mainly by expats and curious outcasts.
Umm the non tradgic and entirely predictable downfall of Australian Rugby.
Darwin said that it's not the fittest that survive, but those most able to adapt to change.
Rugby as a code, hates to change their own rules. Cos, tradition.
And Australian Rugby prefers for Rugby to be the province of Private Schools old boys.
Cos...old boys networks.
Explains much, yes?
As an NRL fan i decided to give a South Africa Vs Wallabies game a go when they came to Townsville. Went with an open mind. However the game was so slow and confusing that we spent the whole time drinking and chatting away...casually cheering when something did happen. It doesn't have the intensity of Rugby League where if you blink you might miss something.
I did notice a lot of south african fans getting into it tho. Am guessing they have never watched an NRL game.
😂 the difference between the two games is massive. What Ur doing is comparing a banana to an apricot. Stay in Ur lane
The problem isn't the game itself, you found it confusing and refused to understand it, prefering to "drinking and chatting away". It's like those people saying NFL is boring without trying to understand it and it's annoying. Have you ever wondered that those South Africans have actually watched an NRL game but still prefer union? you know, because they actually understand it?
@@joaofigueiras1106 I fully understand union. Have played and trained it, and watched copius amounts of it. I prefer league.
@@majorowe well thankfully I wasn't talking about you, I was taking about the guy that made the comment. I have also watched league but prefer union, but to say you don't like a sport you haven't even tried to enjoy is just stupid
@@SteveWarleeUnions only hope in Australia is to also appeal to NRL fans, so when NRL fans are told to “stay in ur lane”, it’s no wonder most Australians don’t give a toss about rugby union
Aussie rugby decline started with the expansion of teams in the super comp. Earlier Aussie rugby success was built on having 3 powerful states, and expansion diluted the strengths of those teams. With limited player resources, Aussie rugby has always been on a knife’s edge. Even back in the Bob Dwyer heyday they had to draw blood from a stone to be competitive. So expansion would never benefit Aussie rugby, and diluting the strengths of those 3 powerhouse states would turn Australia into a backwater rugby nation.
The problem wasn't the expansion, it was the fact that those new teams only had australian players to work with, while there should be freedom of movement of players between australia and new zealand. If there was more parity, the competition would be way better
Rebels are getting axed next season so majority of players and staff should sign up with the other four teams afterwards.
The problem with Australian Rugby is nobody wants to play it
It would have been wise to also say Joe S "was head coach of the successful Irish team."
They don't have enough talent for 5 super rugby team. They need to reduce it to three. If those teams are stacked with talent and competitive, 80 odd players is more than enough to chose from. They have good coach now, good luck to them
Yes, I think that’s more significant than who’s the coach
Correct, Italy shows your words to be accurate.
Agreed. 3 super rugby teams will make the Wallabies more competitive. You saw how strong they were in the late 90s and early 2000s because of that. They need to stack there 3 teams with quality players which will bring a winning culture and confidence which will seep into the international game
Rebels folding would help with that, players and staff can be channeled towards the other four teams to sign them up.
cannot believe it you have not mentioned the historic defeat against italy!
Too much competition from Aussie Rules, NRL and cricket. Plus soccer and basketball have come to prominence in Australia too. It’s sad when you think of were Australia used to be to the position they find themselves now, plus the decline shows no signs of stopping.
7:00pm, mid winter at the Triabunna footy ground on the east coast of Tasmania, under lights, freezing cold, dozens of kids as young as four are gleefully chasing a Sherrin footy around as part of the successful Auskick program. Same thing happening across Australia in league and soccer no doubt. When rugby gets down to that level of cultural relevance it might have a chance. But for now it is a dusty old empire sport, beset by baffling rules, dinning out on 30 year old glories and the occasional win over much weaker opposition. Time to gently walk rugby down to the day room for a cuppa and singalong.
Daft there is so much investment in a game that virtually no other country plays- so you cannot have regular international competitions and a World Cup.
Though it does supply good punters to American football.
What the world needs to understand is the competition for high performance Australian athletes across several football codes. More different codes than any other nation. League and AFL.
Big thanks to the ARU for all the help, couldn't of done better ourselves!-The NRL
New Zealand is not far behind. Rugby globally is on a long term decline in popularity thanks largely to the incompetence the governing body world rugby. It's lost entertainment value as a spectacle thanks to dreadful rules and officials destroying continuity of play. It's a poor shadow of the game it once was. In fact it is complete crap now and unwatchable.
I agree New Zealand isn’t number one anymore South Africa will start dominating the sport along with the Six Nations teams.
This video should have been called "A weather report on the Australian National Rugby team wins and losses"
ARU have just constantly mismanaged the sport to the extent it's not the best option for young athletes given the competition from other winter sports.
When they sacked Folau because of his religious beliefs, they crossed the line and have not recovered since. They are lucky he wasn't more aggressive in his lawsuit.
100% they have more tolerance for players bashing their misses but if you quote the bible you’re fired
Well you will note the folau didnt quote the bible.@lewislibre
Wrong. Folau could not create a defence as he was not quoting scripture. He was intrepretating scripture that had been disowned by his own church.
I have to wonder, though. Do you agree with his statements whereby the rights of Australians should be degraded because they identify as gay?
Further as folau was trying to use the old testament, do you agree that you should be able to sell your sister into slavery and prostitution or kill your mother because she wears garments of different threads etc given that the defence is its the Bible?
@@riveness - Maybe so, but he is an outspoken believer of Jesus Christ. It boils down to the same thing. I respect him for his belief and faith, no matter the consequences.
@jskok3280 and he must, by his faith, respect others.
Instead he spreads hate that isn't even listed in scripture.
No defense.
Is Australia trying to do too much within its limited boarders? They are obviously excellent at cricket and ruby league, as well as having their own version of another sort of ball game. The population is obviously very small, and can only support so much.
As others are saying, Union is under a lot of its own problems, what with the continual attempts at self improvement, linked with the adoption of so many League players into coaching and management.
Obviously as manager of Ireland, Farrell snr. has been very successful, along with others interspersed over the years, there have been some good along with a load of questionable bad.
Whereas none of us want Union to merge into League, we can recognise the problems caused by the stupidity of whatever props get up to, which is just slowing the game down dramatically.
We don’t want penalties every time a scrum is awarded, that is so stupidly out of balance.
I suppose we can all think of loads of things that should be left alone, but of course going backwards appears to be impossible.
Melbourne Rebels and ACT Brumbies in administration, poor attendances and tv ratings, very little sponsorship, junior playing numbers declining and general interest in the sport at an all time low. Rugby in Australia really is on its knees
Brumbies have been the mainstay of rugby in Aus for how many years. NSW and QLD dominate at board level. That’s the problem. The only Aus team that kiwis fear are the brumbies so you need to do your homework
@davidfife-nm7uy I'm talking about their finances, do some research yourself, and you'll discover that South Sydney went broke in 1972 after being in 5 grand finals winning 4.
I live in melbourne, no one knew the rebels even existed and no one seemed to care that they were gone
I think there is a limited pathway in terms of professionalism within the code unlike some other sports, also its not well supported outside certain niches
The ARU need to accept their failures and move on and dig themselves out the hole they put themselves in. The easy solution could be is bringing grassroots rugby back to public schools but in my opinion that’s too far gone. That’s a 10 year rebuild project and let’s face it- the Wallabies don’t have 10 years in them to keep going the way they are.
They need to come up with ideas to keep their talented players playing rugby and treat them like they’re a priority. There’s a lot of talented league kids who can’t crack it in the NRL so they head overseas to play elsewhere (even switching to rugby union in the US, Japan etc). Run academies and camps to keep them in Australia to try out for rugby. Keep them intrigued and teach them the basic fundamentals. I’m sure most of those kids would love to keep playing whilst being close to home.
The fact the ARU let Jordan Mailata walk out the door and sign with the Philadelphia Eagles is indicative of how weak their scouting system is. Sure, he might’ve not been a good fit but at least approach the man which they can’t even do something so simple as that 🤦
2015, winning a shortened Rugby Championship tournament of like 3 games then being ''runners up'' , not bad but definitely not something to consider ''peak''
Wales, Ireland, South Africa, England, France have all leapfrogged the Wallabies and actually made it to rank 1 , Something Australia has never done despite historically being dominant over most of those teams.
Tbf Australia would have been ranked number 1 in the world for a few years if the rankings existed before 2003
@@joshanderson9391 You're right, I still think being unable to get rank 1 over the last 20 years counts against them though.
I swear there's like a conspiracy against the wallabies within the World Rugby / IRB.
They're pretty much the most penalised team regardless of who they select, they also have 15 world player of the year nominations with 0 wins (more nominations than France (3 wins), Ireland (3 wins), England (1 win) and Wales (1 win) ) and then you mention they also conveniently introduced the world rankings right after Australia stopped being world champs 🤔
It is sad to see, such a great side once upon a time.
Money money in a rich-mans world 🌍
Yea Structure, Number of SR teams, iffy Coaches May all have a part to play in ARU decline but my view (from
afar) is that lack of funds/
Investment is the real issue!
To ensure RWC 2027 and
Lions tour success, the Aus
Government will have to fund
ARU to acquire the best football talent from AFL/NRL/
Aus expats! More investment
in Academies/Schools and Clubs!
Once the momentum is there,
Fans/Revenue and success will
follow! World Rugby needs
a strong Australia!
This is a very shallow analysis, if you can call it an analysis at all. It's basically a statement of history and nothing more.
The biggest problem that Australian rugby has is participation. That's had been declining since the early 2000s. Australia's competition structure is non existent and doesn't create a spectacle that can compete with AFL or NRL. Moving a 3rd tier sport to pay view is definitely not going to help either. There are some holes in the dyke! At the moment none of the holes are being plugged
Thanks for the feedback 🙏
This video does not address the cancers at play in Australian rugby but repeats annual performance results.
Australian rugby drew its talent from the ranks of private school rugby schoolboys. This bank of talent has been eroded by the introduction of alternate sports.
Rule changes have changed the international ‘running’ game. Limited open space to attack have turned this game into a rugby league look alike - a feature that has turned rugby into an inches contest rather than the free flowing and strategic contest based on forward strength and back line flair.
Turn over the international rugby board. Return to the old rules. Bring back grass roots support for suburban and club rugby development in Australia. Rugby in Australia is about to collapse.
I wouldn't say tragic, I'd be more inclined to say funny...
Don't ever try to against God ... Israel Folau is the winner now... Australia rugby needs some player that they still trust in God...
You might understand the game better than me
There I was, thinkin that it skill that matters
Good call. God doesn't intervene during nuclear disasters, floods and pandemics that kill millions. His trigger is obviously the sacking of an ignorant bigoted rugby player disliked the world over.
Why stop covid when he can punish a national rugby team with poor results.
Grow up please
My simular thoughts to some degree..
Which god? There’s a ton of ‘em!
Fair Assumption Mate!!under Joe Smidt Management they have nothing to lose and everything to gain!!... NZ's loss it to the Australians gain!!
God we used to be soo good….
You are only stating facts which we all know but not addressing the causes. It would be good to see a video of that
Private School game. Every school plays in NZ and South Africa. NRL players too small for Rugby.
Private school game in two states! So it limits the pool of players
Australia never give Rennie a chance to rebuild the wallabies. They opt to go for Jones and failed miserably. Now they want another kiwi to take over.They should stay with Rennie and Rennie can rebuild the team.
Sick to death of this doom n gloom shit
Eddie Jones was some train crash.....
His overall record is excellent. But this time with the Wallabies
1) he had a lot less talent, and
2) tried to bring in younger talent too quickly
Personally I think their problems started in 2011 already
Goodbye Rugby. All you other nations have a good time and i look forward to watching the world cups. Cheers.
Part of it was sacking folks because of his personal opinion..cmon it was his own personal opinion..n Australia Rugby took it personally..maybe that s why many folks went the other way..because ur voice does not to be heard🤔
Rugby union lacks popularity in most the country and doesn't really reach the masses, i cannot say i know anyone here who likes rugby union!
This was bound to happen, ISRAEL FOLAU's God, my God never sleeps or slumbers.
Or appears, or does anything really.
Australia will win 2027 rwc and 2031, maybe even 2035
No. I think Ireland will win 2027. Australia will win 2035. In between we will see New Zealand win. 2039 England. 2043 France, 2047 Ireland. 2051 South Africa 2055 Argentina
@eamonlyons8069 Not a chance, Ireland will never win, they're chokers and overrated. They only win friendlies, cuz no one takes them seriously
Tragic????
Is rugby still a thing 😂
😂
I say the same thing about nrl and what ever that fking kicking sport game you guys play
I like Rugby but more money and interest in AFL than any other football codes in Australia. NRL up there aswell.Can't compete.
Thank you lgbq ex rugby boss.She it desroyed Aus rugby
Of course I remember, Renegade Castle who made RA go woke and then they broke.
It says in the Good old Book: ‘ He who honors me, I will honor’. Sacking Israel Folau was a massive mistake.
Wallabies are now cursed for eternity.
I so much say exactly the same. He was a star, but the Woke agenda got hold of dictating into the Union’s authority, and it suffered dramatically.
That guy was a real threat in every match.
It’s not as if Australia is loaded with so much individual talent that they can throw it away.
Huge mistake. As a non rugby fan, Folau and Quad Cooper were the only players I found interesting about the Wallabies.
I hope to see the Wallabies sort themselves out. They were a great team and country to play against. 🙂
Australia needs a successful national competition, not just a provincial competition……Super Rugby no longer captures the imagination like it did during 90’s and 2000’s….
The wokeness of the ARU was enough for me.
Same here brother.
AFL is the 4th most attended sporting league in the world. Good players can make great money playing in front of 30,000 - 50,000 people every game. The NRL (rugby league) is the second most popular sport. Young guys can make good money playing in a very well run tournament that is a higher skill standard than any rugby comp in the world. Media coverage of both sports is high in Australia.
Then there’s the wallabies that travel all over the world losing. A super rugby comp that can’t pay good young players decent money with awful crowd attendances and little media interest.
No country plays gayfl buddy!
@@grantandrew18 listen to you big boi 😂 in Australia they do and they average about 30,000 people to a game. They get paid more than the average pro rugby player as well.
Shut up convict
Cricket is more popular than NRL. No one talks about NRL.
@@SportsReplayshave you ever been to sydney…?
Australia has done nothing to develop the game of union and yet for some inane reason it has been given the honour of hosting the next World Cup. Make that make sense. I ask on behalf of South Africa, the country that was supposed to host the 2023 World Cup until the French took it, and that has produced more World Cup winners than any other.
Well did south africa bid for the next world cup? or was given to Australia by default?
Least south africa can reuse soccer city (or whatever that 90k stadium it had for fifa world cup) for a rugby world cup if so they choose to host in the future rather than that other ground (err Ellis Park at 60k?)
I think this video had a lot of potential, but it falls short on a lot of levels.
1- it only starts in the 90s, while ignoring that, until the late 80s, the Wallabies were mediocre. This video makes it look like the Wallabies were on par with the springboks and ABs when they really weren't, they just had a golden generation during the 90s.
2- You can't analyze Australian rugby's downfall by just looking at their national team results, you also have to look at Super Rugby and grassroots. The truth is that Super Rugby doesn't work as a competition, it's pretty much just a training ground for Wallabies and All Blacks, therefore, it's a shit competition that doesn't generate interest in Australia. That lack of interest then reflects on the Wallabies
Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it!
So I guess if is going shit for Australia, im sure NZ will follow in that regards. But maybe what give NZ to hold on is the limited choices of sport (since NRL didn't make much of an effort as they should and AFL in NZ would be a joke in all regards).
But in Australia, there are many choices in sports and therefor its gives an easier excuse for aussies to show a lack of interest if they don't make union interesting....
australian rugby is continuing its downward spiral.
so many bad ARU management decisions have resulted in fans, players and money leaving australian rugby.
the next few years are financially crucial to rugby union in australia.
the lions tour and world cup.
a SUCCESSFUL australian rugby team in the next few years is the key to rugby union remaining a important sport in australia.
ps. thanks.... great video...!
Thanks man, appreciate it!
RA should have never axed Rennie. I realise hindsight is a wonderful thing, but there was a very high probability he would have got the Wallabies to last year's WC semi-finals. They were on the right track. Saying that, I've got high hopes for Joe Schmidt to turn them around. He did wonders with Ireland as well as the All Blacks recently. He's a top-tier coach. About time RA made a smart decision for once.
Sacking Renie and bringing back Eddie Jones was the most brain dead call in international sports management I can remember. Ten minutes after being sacked by England, RA was falling over itself to get him, discarding Rennie along the way. I was baffled. Good grief, England sacked him for a reason!! It seemed like someone in RA had a Jones fetish with no basis of logic at all. Later events proved this.
The 1990's and early 2000's was an anomaly for Australian rugby. Rugby union has never been that big here.
Simple really, woke leaders, average players overpaid, can’t complain about the new Cadbury sponsorship. Epitomises the decision makers & player's, a bit hard on the outside but soft inside. Worried for the new coach, hope he’s not too hard on boys. History shows that he won’t last long if upsets too many of them.
ARU went woke... That always lead to a word that rhymes with woke
RUgby has failed to grow. IT hasnt broken into any new markets and has struggled even in its strongholds. Rugby lacks thrill, lots of weird rules, lacks breathtaking athleticism also its very conservative i blame the federations the governing body and also Rgby players lack charisma "no larger than life personalities". Sport is abot being unpredictable, in Rgby we know only 4 teams can win the world cup. IN Football, Basketball,etc you never know. Its been close to 200 years and Still rugby is strggling.
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Ok will do 👍
Viewers know why nobody watches rugby any more. The penalties, which play a large part of scoring, are hardly ever explained properly by the commentary or the refs for the viewers. The organisation in charge is clueless. They must be a bunch of old farts. NRL refs call it over the PA.
If there was a powerful rugby league competition in South Africa or New Zealand, it would be interesting to see how competitive these teams would be….i reckon ordinary!
Australian rugby always produces lots of talented players. It will continue to do so. But the ARU has made a lot of bad decisions. Joe Schmidt knows what he is doing though and as an Ireland fan I can say with confidence that he will lift them up off the floor. The RWC was as pathetic as I have ever seen an Aus team and it was Eddie Jones disastrous appointment at the heart of it.
To play grass roots rugby in Australia.. especially Brisbane is to bloody expensive Evan with families it's hard
NRL money talks.
More money In union if you play in Europe, south Asia, south America and north America
As a Brit I think it would be worth mentioning that RU is not even in the top three sports in Australia following Aussie Rules, Cricket and National Rugby League. Rugby Union in Australia has been incredibly successful in the past regardless of what its received in the form of funding. Coaches from down under have been largely responsible for the transformation of northern hemisphere rugby. I think Aussie Rugby is in a temporary slump due to lack of outstanding players. Its not a unique problem, look at England and Wales at the moment. Im pretty sure Aussie Rugby Union will be back with a bang in the not to distant future. Once the Wallabies find their winning ways again the money will come back.
Its not even top 4! Football is more popular nationwide than rugby is, in large parts of australia rugby isn't even popular
I remember seeing a few wallabies in the streets of melbourne and no one recognised them
I think the sport has never really expanded beyond the private schools of nsw and qld
Australia will be back this year. Every nation has their moments.
Until they change the board there wont be much taking place.
Here in NZ ABs have their own woes so Wallabies have a good chance for the Bledisloe cup this year
@@tomasgreen77world cup final & previous test Woes 👎
@@CrudupZopf-ns4dr Don’t build our hopes up!
What’s wrong over your side of the Tasman?
@@CrudupZopf-ns4drYou only lost the RWC by a single point
The Boks played a safer game. Very safe. Also a bit boring
I think that’s what you have to do beat em
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Australia is now a genuine Tier 2 international team. Australia just does not have quality players anymore. Proof? Not one Wallaby would make a World 15…. Or a second World 15…. Or a third World 15…. ARU gave up developing players more than a decade ago. Current Wallabies just don’t have the talent, skills, or knowledge to compete at the highest level. Wallabies and rugby in Australia is broken and cannot be fixed…. Sad. Tragic.