Or one could get the feeling that borders don't define people. Just because someone drew a line somewhere doesn't mean they are now different. In fact, the whole region of southwest Ukraine, north east Hungary and northern Romania/ Moldova are all pretty much the same people. The only difference is the language :) I am half Sicilian half Western Ukrainian ( Perevoloka) which is Sothern most part of Ternopil Oblast. Its weird that I understand Romanians because of my Italian but related to them because of my Ukrainian. The Romanian border is only 100k away roughly and back in the day they all farmed and traded together. I actually find it impressive how much the Romanians have preserved their language given their location...
@@joshuaderezyckyj740 I totally agree with you, the same people in the whole region. All these people in older times were called Voloshi, and the place you mention, Perevoloka, it's a clue to the name of older people. Voloka, Bolechiv, etc. different versions of the same name. Variations of the same people. But this region can be extended to southern Poland, eastern Czechia, and Slovakia. In Czechia there is a land called Valahia. It's about the same people, Voloshi. (Valahi). Moldovans in Middle Ages were called the same in Slavic chronicles, Voloshi, Voloki. But also Vlahi, Valahi. It's still surprising that after Slavicisation, Hutsuls still will have pure Romanian words in their songs. Măi, măi - it is only Romanian. Old Romanian. And < hop-ș'așa >. Serbians also when they have their traditional dances, they shout < hop ș'așa, ș'așa , ș'inc'o dată iar așa >. And after that they are very proud how Slavic they are :-) My point is, you may feel Slavic by culture and language, but maybe the blood is not so Slavic, after all. Peace to anyone, don't want to create antagonistic feelings around here.
@@cardenmanning2455 Hey. It's a very interesting point you make and I agree. Too many people think the Slavic blood is pure, when this is a myth, especially in Ukraine which was a country invaded my many for years... My mothers family is Southern Italian ( Sicily) and Dads side Perevoloka ( West Ukraine) and when I did a DNA test there was 0 Eastern European blood. The Ukrainian side was mostly Balkan and some Baltic. The Sicilian side was considered Greek and Southern Italian. This is why a lot of people in the west of Ukraine were so resentful of the Bolsheviks. For most part, they were never exposed to them until world war 2. I'm pretty sure before that we were part of Austro Hungary, Poland, Bukovina, etc... I feel many people in the east were my accustomed to Russian Empire and way of life. Even the stature in the south west is slightly different. We look shorter, darker etc. East is taller and even fairer in feathers. Good vibes!
there's an ancient forgotten connection of iran/media(the medes) with the carpathian hutsul people (living in romanian suceava, maramures & ukrainian ivano-frankivsk, chirnivci, zakarpatia), called in 1100 AD the huci tribe (later came an romanian -ul ending), hutsuls have earliest roots which goes way back to the median busi tribe who were listed by herodot (lived around 450 BC) as one of the ancient westiranic median tribes the busae. an oldiranic typicalness of some languages/dialects was that not rarely the bh sound shifted to h sound: busi>husi/huzi>huci & some variations of hutsul in romania are huzul or hutan. herodotus wrote about the colonists from media called sigunians (shuhani is the main luri dialect & the lurs counts as one of the descendants of the antique medes) who settled before herodot's time in transylvania. sigynians wore median clothing, had many median customs and they themselfes said (to herodot) they are descendants of the medes. i can bring some proofs/facts/wordsimilarities/explainings/theorizations to show the direct connection of proto-hutsuls with the medes, concretely median busae tribe & the sigynnian branch who settled in westromania. genetically hutsuls are in first case a mixture of dacians/vlahs+slavs but from their origin (the old substrat) an iranic sigynnian people. about when these median colonists sigynians came to transylvania exist 2 options, they left their homeland and moved via turkey to there around 640 BC (when kyaxares were made for 28 years to a vassal in his own kingdom) or 540 BC (when the median kingdom collapsed and persians took over). the historian strabo (63BC-23AD) wrote about siginians who lived in the southwest caspia sea/westernmost elborz-mountains region (by the way elborz and east-carparthian areas looks in some places kinda similar) like gilan, mazandaran & talysh mountains etc., these siginians were the ones who stayed in media and didn't leave like herodot's sigynnes. strabo said about these ones that in general they practise persians customs and he mentioned like herodot their small horses race which were shaggy long haired flat-nosed/short-snooted ponies that pulled a chariot/cart in a four-horse-team, maybe that small horse race is related to the eastcarpathian hutul-horses/ponies (as a newer mixed breeding that originated from the sigynnian horses). i go back to the topic with proofs that the hutsuls were in fact of iranic median sigynian origin, the ethnicon itself (besides the most possible explaining that it comes from median busi tribe name) has also another 4 theories of it's meaning (until today nobody could proof what the ethnonym hucul really means), the 4 other theories what it means are all median(=gilaki/garmsiri/etc.) cognates: 1. it comes from the gilaki word for "mountain"="qukh" (leads to gukh+ul), so the proto-huculian(sigynian-orientated) word/ethnonym would mean "people from the mountains/mountainous people". 2. gilaki word "houz" for "lake" would mean "people who live by the lake" 3. garmsiri word "guch"="ram/ibex/capricorn/battering-ram/mountain-goat" that means ghuculs are "people associated with rams/got something to do with rams" 4. gilaki word "ghut" for "immersion" would mean "(water)diver/aquanaut". herodot speculated what the name sigynni could mean from what he heared or knew, he used to associate the name with the meaning "spear" and on the other hand with "traders/hucksters". what the meaning of the word medes is, can maybe explain the zazaki etymology of that ethnonym, in this case the medes would have something to do with mines/mining. the proto-hutsul ethnos was surely formed in the maramures region and some bordering north-transilvania areas/northwest-romania where the sigynians sometime between 100-500 AD mixed with the surrounding dacian population & vlahian shepherds, a bit later came the slavic component(tiverians & whitecroats) in their ethnogenesis mainly in the bordering southern ivano-frankivsk/zakarpatia/chirnivcy regions since 600 AD. sigunnians had 2000 years ago surely 2 median identities: the word siguni has to be the same as shuhani, what means one of the main dialects of lur people or northern-luri language, so it's showed their median branch language-identity, but the other identity was the tribe-identity the word that would later become the ethnicon hucul that means they had seen themselfes as belonging to the husi/huzi/huci tribe what is a diactical changing of the word busi, their busae tribe identity. also i think that the meaning "sigyni" can all in all be understood as "people who are originally from a rocky and stony mountainous area or region" cuz if you take a talishi etymology for that then "sygh" is "stone" or if you take the kurdish etymology then "chiya/shah" is "mountain" and "qij" is "rock"........
these following words are typical hutsulian & have ties to westiranic median modern descendants' languages: an interessting exclusive huculian word (that is not to be found in ukrainian language) with etymological ties to neo-median(luri/gilaki/balochi/kurdi/behdinani/leki/garmsiri) cause it sounds related to these 2 gilaki words by meaning "hooz"(lake/pond) & "ghut"(immersion/diving) is huculian word "ghuk" and means "waterfall" so connected with watermasses/lake/diving. another exclusive huculian word (not found in ukrainian language) is "kootüga" and means "dog" while in the luri language "katu" is "dog" these words are really close and belong to median dialects from origin. a huculian word (not in ukrainian language again) for "farm-animals/domestic-animals/livestock-animals" is "marga" what you can compare to the luri & gilaki word "morg" for "chicken/hen/rooster" what surely is related together. then of course the romanian and hutsulian word "branza" & "bryndza" (in the 14th century also as a variation with a ch sound brancha) is translated as "cheese", also often as "cream-cheese", it's a word from the romanian and southwest-ukraine bordering carpathians & many romanian, hutsuls and ukrainians try to find the origins of that word, i searched for the translations of the word cheese in the most languages and no language has a similar word for cheese like branza, so it sure don't came from slavic or romance languages, the only language i found that has similarities with that word is the westiranic balochi word "ponch" for "curd-cheese/quark-cheese/soft white cheese type paste/cream-cheese/cancoillotte/processed cheese", so if you look that in the 14th century the word branza/brynza(commonly variation bronza) had also a ch sound variation, then broncha would be really close to the balochi ponch and has the same meaning, but also important is that it is connected to an other hutsulian word, to "banosh", a traditional dish of hutsul cuisine, a "porridge/grits" cooked in sour cream, both banosh & bryndza are originally from carpathian hutsul region and other neighbouring regions or countries adopted that food, but etymologically both words are westiranic median proto-balochi closest related in origin, "banosh" is a creamy porridge and etymologically identical to balochi "ponch"="quark/cream-cheese/cream-curd/cooked-cheese" cuz i principialy see the etymology of ponch & branza & banosh as connected with the meaning cream,mash,curd,yoghurt,porridge,puree,cancoillotte,creamcheese,pesto,paste,gruel,grits,ect. as their roots and not with the meaning real cheese or directly corn groats. a typical ukrainian word what means untypical for the other slavic languages (really possibly borrowed by ukrainians from the carpathian regions where hutsuls live) is the word "gharny"="great" which can be compared to the garmsirian bashkardi word "gohrt"="big" but not so sure about that one, better would be to see the balochi word "shar"="good" as of same origin/roots with the ukrainian "harny/gharny"="great/good/amazing", but the bashkardi word "gohrt" fits really good to the typical ukrainian word "gurt"="group", a group is big so synonymous to the meaning big/large & by the way that word gurt i really think has etymological ties to the ethnonym kurd cuz there are 2 versions explaining the ethnonym of the kurds either with the meaning big collected group/great-group of related tribes/people-group or a more chauvinistic meaning like the big ones/huge and strong people=xurt. there is another word that is only typical for ukraine "khata"="house" what shares the same origin/meaning like the yazdi-behdinani word "khäda/khda"="house". the hutsulian & ukrainian word "daraba"="raft/float/catamaran/bobber" is generally of westiranic origin (maybe also with some influence or a bit fusion of slavic in that word), it seems that "daraba" is identical to oldpersian "daraya(m)"="river/sea", it's possible that from a mix of slavic "korab"="ship" + westiranic "daraya"="river/sea" resulted "daraba", further a relevant role could play here also kurdish "zorav"="torrent/creek/beck/swollen-stream/raging-current/gush/flush/rapid-brook/mountaintorrent/waterrace/whitewater/fastflowing-stream", on the other hand is in first case "daraba" most likely a combination of 2 westiranic words (like tajiki or persian) "daro"+"aba" and would be understood as the "entering/input/influx/addition/enter/entrance/lead-in/ushering/insertion/interpolation/ingress/entry (for or to) the water" or "dar"+"aba"="given one (for or to) the water", but more possible is the combination of kurdish "dar"="wood/timber/lumber" + "ab"="water" (also romanian "apa"="water" is here possible because it's surely an iranic sigynnian word that came into the proto-romanian language), that would be resulted in "water-wood/water-timber" (in the scence of a water-board).......
the ukrainian and hutsulian "kulish"="thick soup/pottage/millet porridge with meat,mushrooms,tomatoes"(in the carpathian version often the porridge is done from maize) is said to be mostpossibly of hungarian këles origin but alternatively it can be of westiranic median origin when you compare it with (northern) kurdish "keli/kelink"="something simmering/boiling/seething/cooked/scalded/fumed/cookable", that kulish and also köles is of median proto-kurdisch dialect origin can proof the word-meaning if you compare it with some other indoeuropean languages' meaning of the words millet & grits and related words to millet like germanic hirse, gries & grütze/grits or slavic grechka, these words have originally the meaning "made warm" so very close to kurdish "keli" by meaning, but etymologically kulish and köles are very close to "keli" or "kelink" (that dish have to be originally from southwest-ukraine/northwest-romania so some hungarians have lived in the western border-near zone there in some times). the ukrainian verb that came at least 1000 years ago from southwest-ukraine/north-romania into the language "shanuvati"(-vati=verb-ending)="beeing a fan/admirer/liker/follower/honourer/lover/appreciator of someone" has roots in iran, it's identical to persian "jan"="dear/liked/adored/favoured one" & "soul" but in older persian 2000 years ago it sounded like "hyan", the kurdish equivalent is "chan" and "chänik", in ukrainian dictionary "shana" is translated as "the feeling of being esteemed", also the romanian word "chinsti"="to honour/esteem/appreciate/adore/value/respect" proofs that the original word was from carpathia & north-romania (because you can see the -sti is a word-ending and that word is surely not of a romance language origin and also fit well together chinsti with kurdish chänik, oldpersian hyan & ukrainian shana), the germany/poland-theory about that word is not so sure. in western-ukraine is sometimes used the dialectical word "chugha"="ungrown mountain", it's related either to gilaki "quh"="mountain" or talishi "sygh"="stone" (taleshi and gilaki are neighbour-languages from northwest iran) or kudish "chiya"(sometimes also "shax")="mountain" (in zazaki is "koyan"="mountain") or kurdish "qyj/qysh"="rock", but that talishi word "sygh" is of the same origin and close in meaning related to another word, to hutsulian "chughilo"(-ilo is an noun-ending with adjective character)="notch or indentation in a stone" and "flowstone", both ("sygh" & "chugh-") have actually the meaning "stone", they are similar so hutsulian "chughilo" is of median talishi-alike (atropatena-media) dialect origin, but also of proto-kurdish origin because there's a kurdish word "qax"="indentation in a stone or rock", it is even much closer in the meaning to "chughilo" than the talishi word. another hutsulian word is "dyadühna"(-na is an adjective ending but it's an noun)="fever", there's a possibility that it's of westiranic median origin because it could be identical to balochi "thäf"="fever" or kurdish "tehn"="temperature/warmness" or on the other side it could be related to kurdish "därd"="illness" (if you see -ühna as a word-ending). the typical ukrainian or hutsulian word "gudzica"="button" came really sure from median laki and zazaki alike dialects, you can compare "gudzica" with zazaki "gozage"="button" & laki "gijik"="button". the last word is huculian "bardka" for "axe" while in the "modern-zoroastrian" behdinani/gabri language (spoken by the behdinan people in yazdi dialect) "barda" is translated as "spade"(including spade-chissel?), these words are surely related and originally from media kingdom.
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Old Romanian style of folk with Slavic lyrics. Mai mai is still there. lol
Music sound Romanian. Also the ”...-măi, măi” verse ending. Rest of text is clearly slavic.
Love this
:-) One can get the feeling that it's a Romanian song with Ukrainian Lyrics. "Măi, măi" lines endings and at the end "hop ș-așa"(Romanian).
Or one could get the feeling that borders don't define people. Just because someone drew a line somewhere doesn't mean they are now different. In fact, the whole region of southwest Ukraine, north east Hungary and northern Romania/ Moldova are all pretty much the same people. The only difference is the language :) I am half Sicilian half Western Ukrainian ( Perevoloka) which is Sothern most part of Ternopil Oblast. Its weird that I understand Romanians because of my Italian but related to them because of my Ukrainian. The Romanian border is only 100k away roughly and back in the day they all farmed and traded together.
I actually find it impressive how much the Romanians have preserved their language given their location...
@@joshuaderezyckyj740 I totally agree with you, the same people in the whole region. All these people in older times were called Voloshi, and the place you mention, Perevoloka, it's a clue to the name of older people. Voloka, Bolechiv, etc. different versions of the same name. Variations of the same people. But this region can be extended to southern Poland, eastern Czechia, and Slovakia. In Czechia there is a land called Valahia. It's about the same people, Voloshi. (Valahi). Moldovans in Middle Ages were called the same in Slavic chronicles, Voloshi, Voloki. But also Vlahi, Valahi. It's still surprising that after Slavicisation, Hutsuls still will have pure Romanian words in their songs. Măi, măi - it is only Romanian. Old Romanian. And < hop-ș'așa >. Serbians also when they have their traditional dances, they shout < hop ș'așa, ș'așa , ș'inc'o dată iar așa >. And after that they are very proud how Slavic they are :-) My point is, you may feel Slavic by culture and language, but maybe the blood is not so Slavic, after all. Peace to anyone, don't want to create antagonistic feelings around here.
@@cardenmanning2455 Hey. It's a very interesting point you make and I agree. Too many people think the Slavic blood is pure, when this is a myth, especially in Ukraine which was a country invaded my many for years... My mothers family is Southern Italian ( Sicily) and Dads side Perevoloka ( West Ukraine) and when I did a DNA test there was 0 Eastern European blood. The Ukrainian side was mostly Balkan and some Baltic. The Sicilian side was considered Greek and Southern Italian.
This is why a lot of people in the west of Ukraine were so resentful of the Bolsheviks. For most part, they were never exposed to them until world war 2. I'm pretty sure before that we were part of Austro Hungary, Poland, Bukovina, etc... I feel many people in the east were my accustomed to Russian Empire and way of life.
Even the stature in the south west is slightly different. We look shorter, darker etc. East is taller and even fairer in feathers.
Good vibes!
@@joshuaderezyckyj740 Interesting lineage. Interesting description. All the best
there's an ancient forgotten connection of iran/media(the medes) with the carpathian hutsul people (living in romanian suceava, maramures & ukrainian ivano-frankivsk, chirnivci, zakarpatia), called in 1100 AD the huci tribe (later came an romanian -ul ending), hutsuls have earliest roots which goes way back to the median busi tribe who were listed by herodot (lived around 450 BC) as one of the ancient westiranic median tribes the busae. an oldiranic typicalness of some languages/dialects was that not rarely the bh sound shifted to h sound: busi>husi/huzi>huci & some variations of hutsul in romania are huzul or hutan. herodotus wrote about the colonists from media called sigunians (shuhani is the main luri dialect & the lurs counts as one of the descendants of the antique medes) who settled before herodot's time in transylvania. sigynians wore median clothing, had many median customs and they themselfes said (to herodot) they are descendants of the medes. i can bring some proofs/facts/wordsimilarities/explainings/theorizations to show the direct connection of proto-hutsuls with the medes, concretely median busae tribe & the sigynnian branch who settled in westromania. genetically hutsuls are in first case a mixture of dacians/vlahs+slavs but from their origin (the old substrat) an iranic sigynnian people. about when these median colonists sigynians came to transylvania exist 2 options, they left their homeland and moved via turkey to there around 640 BC (when kyaxares were made for 28 years to a vassal in his own kingdom) or 540 BC (when the median kingdom collapsed and persians took over). the historian strabo (63BC-23AD) wrote about siginians who lived in the southwest caspia sea/westernmost elborz-mountains region (by the way elborz and east-carparthian areas looks in some places kinda similar) like gilan, mazandaran & talysh mountains etc., these siginians were the ones who stayed in media and didn't leave like herodot's sigynnes. strabo said about these ones that in general they practise persians customs and he mentioned like herodot their small horses race which were shaggy long haired flat-nosed/short-snooted ponies that pulled a chariot/cart in a four-horse-team, maybe that small horse race is related to the eastcarpathian hutul-horses/ponies (as a newer mixed breeding that originated from the sigynnian horses). i go back to the topic with proofs that the hutsuls were in fact of iranic median sigynian origin, the ethnicon itself (besides the most possible explaining that it comes from median busi tribe name) has also another 4 theories of it's meaning (until today nobody could proof what the ethnonym hucul really means), the 4 other theories what it means are all median(=gilaki/garmsiri/etc.) cognates: 1. it comes from the gilaki word for "mountain"="qukh" (leads to gukh+ul), so the proto-huculian(sigynian-orientated) word/ethnonym would mean "people from the mountains/mountainous people". 2. gilaki word "houz" for "lake" would mean "people who live by the lake" 3. garmsiri word "guch"="ram/ibex/capricorn/battering-ram/mountain-goat" that means ghuculs are "people associated with rams/got something to do with rams" 4. gilaki word "ghut" for "immersion" would mean "(water)diver/aquanaut". herodot speculated what the name sigynni could mean from what he heared or knew, he used to associate the name with the meaning "spear" and on the other hand with "traders/hucksters". what the meaning of the word medes is, can maybe explain the zazaki etymology of that ethnonym, in this case the medes would have something to do with mines/mining. the proto-hutsul ethnos was surely formed in the maramures region and some bordering north-transilvania areas/northwest-romania where the sigynians sometime between 100-500 AD mixed with the surrounding dacian population & vlahian shepherds, a bit later came the slavic component(tiverians & whitecroats) in their ethnogenesis mainly in the bordering southern ivano-frankivsk/zakarpatia/chirnivcy regions since 600 AD. sigunnians had 2000 years ago surely 2 median identities: the word siguni has to be the same as shuhani, what means one of the main dialects of lur people or northern-luri language, so it's showed their median branch language-identity, but the other identity was the tribe-identity the word that would later become the ethnicon hucul that means they had seen themselfes as belonging to the husi/huzi/huci tribe what is a diactical changing of the word busi, their busae tribe identity. also i think that the meaning "sigyni" can all in all be understood as "people who are originally from a rocky and stony mountainous area or region" cuz if you take a talishi etymology for that then "sygh" is "stone" or if you take the kurdish etymology then "chiya/shah" is "mountain" and "qij" is "rock"........
these following words are typical hutsulian & have ties to westiranic median modern descendants' languages:
an interessting exclusive huculian word (that is not to be found in ukrainian language) with etymological ties to neo-median(luri/gilaki/balochi/kurdi/behdinani/leki/garmsiri) cause it sounds related to these 2 gilaki words by meaning "hooz"(lake/pond) & "ghut"(immersion/diving) is huculian word "ghuk" and means "waterfall" so connected with watermasses/lake/diving. another exclusive huculian word (not found in ukrainian language) is "kootüga" and means "dog" while in the luri language "katu" is "dog" these words are really close and belong to median dialects from origin. a huculian word (not in ukrainian language again) for "farm-animals/domestic-animals/livestock-animals" is "marga" what you can compare to the luri & gilaki word "morg" for "chicken/hen/rooster" what surely is related together. then of course the romanian and hutsulian word "branza" & "bryndza" (in the 14th century also as a variation with a ch sound brancha) is translated as "cheese", also often as "cream-cheese", it's a word from the romanian and southwest-ukraine bordering carpathians & many romanian, hutsuls and ukrainians try to find the origins of that word, i searched for the translations of the word cheese in the most languages and no language has a similar word for cheese like branza, so it sure don't came from slavic or romance languages, the only language i found that has similarities with that word is the westiranic balochi word "ponch" for "curd-cheese/quark-cheese/soft white cheese type paste/cream-cheese/cancoillotte/processed cheese", so if you look that in the 14th century the word branza/brynza(commonly variation bronza) had also a ch sound variation, then broncha would be really close to the balochi ponch and has the same meaning, but also important is that it is connected to an other hutsulian word, to "banosh", a traditional dish of hutsul cuisine, a "porridge/grits" cooked in sour cream, both banosh & bryndza are originally from carpathian hutsul region and other neighbouring regions or countries adopted that food, but etymologically both words are westiranic median proto-balochi closest related in origin, "banosh" is a creamy porridge and etymologically identical to balochi "ponch"="quark/cream-cheese/cream-curd/cooked-cheese" cuz i principialy see the etymology of ponch & branza & banosh as connected with the meaning cream,mash,curd,yoghurt,porridge,puree,cancoillotte,creamcheese,pesto,paste,gruel,grits,ect. as their roots and not with the meaning real cheese or directly corn groats. a typical ukrainian word what means untypical for the other slavic languages (really possibly borrowed by ukrainians from the carpathian regions where hutsuls live) is the word "gharny"="great" which can be compared to the garmsirian bashkardi word "gohrt"="big" but not so sure about that one, better would be to see the balochi word "shar"="good" as of same origin/roots with the ukrainian "harny/gharny"="great/good/amazing", but the bashkardi word "gohrt" fits really good to the typical ukrainian word "gurt"="group", a group is big so synonymous to the meaning big/large & by the way that word gurt i really think has etymological ties to the ethnonym kurd cuz there are 2 versions explaining the ethnonym of the kurds either with the meaning big collected group/great-group of related tribes/people-group or a more chauvinistic meaning like the big ones/huge and strong people=xurt. there is another word that is only typical for ukraine "khata"="house" what shares the same origin/meaning like the yazdi-behdinani word "khäda/khda"="house". the hutsulian & ukrainian word "daraba"="raft/float/catamaran/bobber" is generally of westiranic origin (maybe also with some influence or a bit fusion of slavic in that word), it seems that "daraba" is identical to oldpersian "daraya(m)"="river/sea", it's possible that from a mix of slavic "korab"="ship" + westiranic "daraya"="river/sea" resulted "daraba", further a relevant role could play here also kurdish "zorav"="torrent/creek/beck/swollen-stream/raging-current/gush/flush/rapid-brook/mountaintorrent/waterrace/whitewater/fastflowing-stream", on the other hand is in first case "daraba" most likely a combination of 2 westiranic words (like tajiki or persian) "daro"+"aba" and would be understood as the "entering/input/influx/addition/enter/entrance/lead-in/ushering/insertion/interpolation/ingress/entry (for or to) the water" or "dar"+"aba"="given one (for or to) the water", but more possible is the combination of kurdish "dar"="wood/timber/lumber" + "ab"="water" (also romanian "apa"="water" is here possible because it's surely an iranic sigynnian word that came into the proto-romanian language), that would be resulted in "water-wood/water-timber" (in the scence of a water-board).......
the ukrainian and hutsulian "kulish"="thick soup/pottage/millet porridge with meat,mushrooms,tomatoes"(in the carpathian version often the porridge is done from maize) is said to be mostpossibly of hungarian këles origin but alternatively it can be of westiranic median origin when you compare it with (northern) kurdish "keli/kelink"="something simmering/boiling/seething/cooked/scalded/fumed/cookable", that kulish and also köles is of median proto-kurdisch dialect origin can proof the word-meaning if you compare it with some other indoeuropean languages' meaning of the words millet & grits and related words to millet like germanic hirse, gries & grütze/grits or slavic grechka, these words have originally the meaning "made warm" so very close to kurdish "keli" by meaning, but etymologically kulish and köles are very close to "keli" or "kelink" (that dish have to be originally from southwest-ukraine/northwest-romania so some hungarians have lived in the western border-near zone there in some times).
the ukrainian verb that came at least 1000 years ago from southwest-ukraine/north-romania into the language "shanuvati"(-vati=verb-ending)="beeing a fan/admirer/liker/follower/honourer/lover/appreciator of someone" has roots in iran, it's identical to persian "jan"="dear/liked/adored/favoured one" & "soul" but in older persian 2000 years ago it sounded like "hyan", the kurdish equivalent is "chan" and "chänik", in ukrainian dictionary "shana" is translated as "the feeling of being esteemed", also the romanian word "chinsti"="to honour/esteem/appreciate/adore/value/respect" proofs that the original word was from carpathia & north-romania (because you can see the -sti is a word-ending and that word is surely not of a romance language origin and also fit well together chinsti with kurdish chänik, oldpersian hyan & ukrainian shana), the germany/poland-theory about that word is not so sure. in western-ukraine is sometimes used the dialectical word "chugha"="ungrown mountain", it's related either to gilaki "quh"="mountain" or talishi "sygh"="stone" (taleshi and gilaki are neighbour-languages from northwest iran) or kudish "chiya"(sometimes also "shax")="mountain" (in zazaki is "koyan"="mountain") or kurdish "qyj/qysh"="rock", but that talishi word "sygh" is of the same origin and close in meaning related to another word, to hutsulian "chughilo"(-ilo is an noun-ending with adjective character)="notch or indentation in a stone" and "flowstone", both ("sygh" & "chugh-") have actually the meaning "stone", they are similar so hutsulian "chughilo" is of median talishi-alike (atropatena-media) dialect origin, but also of proto-kurdish origin because there's a kurdish word "qax"="indentation in a stone or rock", it is even much closer in the meaning to "chughilo" than the talishi word. another hutsulian word is "dyadühna"(-na is an adjective ending but it's an noun)="fever", there's a possibility that it's of westiranic median origin because it could be identical to balochi "thäf"="fever" or kurdish "tehn"="temperature/warmness" or on the other side it could be related to kurdish "därd"="illness" (if you see -ühna as a word-ending). the typical ukrainian or hutsulian word "gudzica"="button" came really sure from median laki and zazaki alike dialects, you can compare "gudzica" with zazaki "gozage"="button" & laki "gijik"="button". the last word is huculian "bardka" for "axe" while in the "modern-zoroastrian" behdinani/gabri language (spoken by the behdinan people in yazdi dialect) "barda" is translated as "spade"(including spade-chissel?), these words are surely related and originally from media kingdom.