Let's Talk Trumpet: How to Get Rid of Tarnish
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Playing on a tarnished mouthpiece is not a good idea, but the good news is it can usually be removed with baking soda and hot water. Of course, there's always the silver polish option, but this is a cool trick I learned from Trent Austin.
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Tarnish is just sulphur atoms fused with the silver atoms. Wiping it away takes the silver with it. The baking soda trick is all you need. You can also add salt and vinegar to the water as well. Salt is what enables the sulphur atoms to transfer over to the aluminum atoms in the foil. You'll actually smell the rotten egg smell if there is enough tarnish. The vinegar might help speed up the reaction as well, but isn't necessary.
Thanks for the chemistry lesson!
Is this safe for 24k Brushed Gold Plate too? For the silver that tarnishing under my Getzen's gold plate?
The problem is, that this foil method won't give you a shiny surface. It'll be only achieved only by buffing/polishing. There's a reason no techs use the foil method. Because it's inferior.
I bought a used cornet recently with a VERY tarnished mouthpiece, like the whole thing was blackish blue. Anyways I tried this and it worked like a charm! I should’ve recorded a video too because it went so fast! Thanks for the tip!
So glad it worked! Crazy how quickly the reaction happens, eh?
I used this tip from instagram and now I abide by it all the time
This was the only tarnished mouthpiece I had available so I haven't done this since making the video but it really was helpful
Great video! I read a professional trombone player in Boston kept getting very sick with both Streptococcal and Staphylococcus infections. This went on for well over a year. His doctor had him bring in his trombone and mouthpiece. Several swab samples were made. Everyone came back positive for these deadly bacteria! It's reasonable to clean your horn often. If your leadpipe looks like a fowled gun barrel it's time to clean it!🙄 Get some mouthpiece antiseptic spray and use it everyday! It could keep you from getting very sick!
Thanks for your comment Wythe! Yeesh, I’m glad his doctor had the foresight to make him bring the horn in. Stories like that ensure that I swab my leadpipes and tuning slides out once a month and clean my mouthpieces every couple weeks!
That is a great tip for using household items for silver cleaning.Now there are various silver tarnish cleaners that speed up the process. I use semi- chrome polish it puts a brand new shine on mouthpieces just do not rub too hard as it has a slight abrasive to it. After all the tarnish is gone from mouthpiece and silver plated horns. The anti- tarnish strips from 3 M in your case keeps tarnish from forming in the first place. They are amazing and not very expensive. Love your videos.
I'll have to give those anti-tarnish strips a look! They sound very handy. Thanks for all the info!
I had no idea you could get diseases from tarnishes mouthpieces. Thankfully the rim of my usual mouthpiece is fine, but it's got tarnish elsewhere, and my less-used small shank horn was super tarnished. Glad I decided to look up how to do this
I’m sorry for the confusion caused on my part-I was wrong. Tarnish on silver plate is little more than oxidation. I was confusing this with pitting on raw metal, which can trigger serious allergic reactions or brass poisoning with continued exposure. If the mouthpiece still looks silver-plated coming out of the treatment, it probably was safe to play on beforehand, just in need of a polishing or chemical reaction like the one shown in the video. My apologies.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass Ah ok that makes sense. Either way, my mouthpieces are looking better lol
I'm going to use this trick for my tuba mouthpiece
This definitely works! I have a euphonium mouthpiece that hasn't been used in 15 years that was mostly dark gray to black. Used this method and in 5 minutes it looked almost new!
We can always trust chemistry! I have many mouthpieces I need to do this to now, because I have a display rack that is unfortunately open to the air and causes the mouthpieces to oxidize over time.
I've done this with some silver jewelry before but never considered using it on a mouthpiece. Also hashtag un intentional ASMR.
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I got my first trumpet and after trying it out there was a brown round spot on my lips 😂. Glad that I’ve found this. I balieve it’s tarnish on it. Hope this works.
Believe it or not, especially if your mouthpiece has dirt on it in addition to tarnish, rubbing it with toothpaste can actually work very well. Just rinse thoroughly with warm water before and after.
this worked, i tried it on my 3rd valve slide because it was very tarnished and all of the tarnish came off
For actual silver-plated instruments or instrument parts I'd more readily recommend a polishing cloth or silver polish with a gentle rag.
Do you happen to know if this will work with 24k Brushed Gold Plate? My Getzen Genesis was gold plated 3 years ago and the silver UNDER the gold is starting to tarnish and I don't want to polish it since gold is so soft
Ooh, that’s a really tricky case. I had that happen with a C.G. Conn “Connstellation” mouthpiece. I opted for a substance called Tarn-X which did a good job, but many repairfolk recommend Flitz polish-I was also super nervous about polishing gold, but Flitz treats both gold and silver with sufficient gentleness.
EDIT: I realize I didn’t answer your question about this method specifically-it probably would work, but I’m just a little nervous about applying this method to anything besides small silver-plated parts.
Better living through chemistry.
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Yes sir! I had fun nerding out about why this trick works the way it does
Does this work on gold plated mouthpiece?
Good question. I’d advise Googling it, because I can’t say for sure. As far as my chemistry knowledge goes, I believe silver and gold behave similarly, but I think you should find a scientific source before you try.
There's tarnish and green stuff on the inside of my trumpet. What do u recommend?
It might be time to get the horn professionally cleaned in a chemical or ultrasonic bath at a local music store. I’m really not a fan of ultrasonic baths but see if anyone does chem baths locally. It’s a little bit of an investment but it’s better than letting the trumpet corrode any further.
What abt the brown stuff
Would this work on my laquer trumpet?🎺
I’d definitely caution against doing this on a trumpet. While baking soda wouldn’t do anything harmful, placing a lacquered instrument in near-boiling water is definitely not a good idea.
Can't hear.
Can i do this to an entire horn?
I wouldn't risk it if I were you. I simply don't know how the lacquer would hold up in comparison to silver mouthpiece plating.
Only if the horn is silver plate, not lacquer. This reaction pulls oxides off silver.
Also, take all valves out.
Lacquer instruments I'd say no.