Dr. Strange stopped looking after 14,605,000 possibilities. If he looked for 14,605,001 instead, he would see 2 winning scenarios. The other one is Luis knocking out Thanos in one punch.
At least he's alive unlike, iron man, captain America, and black widow... And I'm not sure we'll see the real hulk again. And Thor is FAT. Fat but still strong.
Wanda got a huge upgrade since her tussle with Thanos in End Game. She got access to the Dark Hold, unlocked reality warping, absorbed the power of an ancient witch, and became more psychically healed and ascended into a prophesied form. Agatha Harkness warned that the Scarlet Witch can destroy the word. She could be beyond planetary depending on what the MCU means by the "Nexus" Easter Egg in WandaVision. She can also manifest breakfast for dinner out of the vacuum of space.
@@dd_doesit who do you believe to be more powerful than her? from the top of my head ig thanos, ego, dormammu, anyone else? I haven't watched the thor 2 and the gotg movies so idk
@@goranorsolic1000 Thor, okay to be fair she beat him so bad in the comics that he didn’t want to fight her anymore, but i think Rune King Thor can beat her.
Spider-Man is well above cap, winter soldier and any other super soldiers. When iron man stated that cap could beat Spider-Man we was referring to his experience and hand to hand combat. In terms of pure strength , Spider-Man wins with ease
Comic spiderman? 100% but, Tom holland spiderman has been shown as a whiny pussy in like 90% of his movies so I can understand the placement for this specific interpretation lmao
The list is power scaling not who wins in an arm wrestling match it’s taking in to account everything experience armor weapons statements from other characters as well and how can you get more concrete than someone facially stating something is true in canon
@@jaydenjames1559 Yeah and he was talking about a wildly inexperienced Peter who had never fought other superhumans before and Iron Man underestimated Peter's power to begin with and didn't think he was even strong enough to beat Vulture. By the end of Far From Home, Peter 100% has the experience and mastery of his powers to beat Cap.
I think this tier list is decent for the most part with the amount of characters put on it. However I think it's based a little too heavily on who beats who rather than a character's feats.
the movies did not show how much about the characters and their strength, there's too much of them, to little screen time to see anything. i agree with you.
This is inaccurate Luis should be in the top tier list every person he has throw a punch to he knocked Them out in one punch he could probably knock out thanos in one
I bet this was a very hard list to put together. And many people will have problems with placements but all in all you did a really good job explaining your reasoning.
wandavision really solidified wanda’s spot. I’m so glad we got to see her teleport, use a force field, and do her mind control thing. also that creepy speed walk thing. i’m relieved that’s an actual power of hers and not just a movie editing choice.
there definitely should have been a "soldier" their for people like black widow, hawkeye and crossbones. because those guys are nowhere ever close to happy hogan and definitely more than humans
I feel odin would be higher, he did conquer the 9 realms, seal Hella away, beat Surtur, have possession of so many powerful wepins and items, he casually took Thors hammer, show the ability to give and take powers, these were all his on screen moments let alone the ones we didnt see
I think he wrongly puts Ronan, he's not stronger than Ego cause he has not the full control on power stone (as the celastial showed in gotg has, who's able to destroy entire planets). I think Odin is arguably on the same level of Ego, and right below Thanos during Titan's fight. People probably don't get he's one of the strongest gods if not the strongest, and just by this fact he's of course stronger than Ronan, and probably even more stronger than Ego
Mantis is highly under rated imo, after guardians 3 she’s shown to have mastered her mind control powers so much that she can tame 3 of those big guys the rest of the guardians struggled to beat in gotg2, also she held control over Thanos and ego in his planetary form.
@@weeaboo-warrioryou put him human form in the rank I agree with. I would have put him a bit higher because of his strategist skills but I still like the spot you placed him
Dude, Spider-man has like 20 times the strength of Captain America. Why do you think Bucky was so bewildered that he could move his arm with little to no effort?
he put them in the same tier because Ant man has contributed immensely in the destruction of Thanos’ army one shotting Cull Obsidian. also raccoon is a sneaky little genius that will catch you off guard with a moon destroying rockst launcher for example.
Rocket beat up around 100 trained space pirates alone, making them look like little girls, he would have litteraly beaten all the ravagers if Yondu didn't stop him. He has mechanical and biological enhancement like a super soldier, the only reason why he is not in the super soldier category has to do with being a raccoon with very limited physical strenght.
It’s based off of feats, he used little speculation and went off of what is directly shown but I do think Ant Man could still win depending, as we know if he were to just quickly enlarge and grab Strange then the fights over. And Ant Man one shotted Obsidian so that shows that his strength and durability are high not only that but if he shrinks then Cap literally won’t be able to touch him and then Ant Man will either just slowly beat his ass or enlarge on him
@@demontiming3234 like how black widow just tased him or the fact that he's actually punchable when still small Vision just simply did a canonball on giant man making him lose balance Strange outsmarted Dormammu btw and it's baffling me that he may not do the same with with Ant-man Strange also kept up with 4 stone thanos, or same with iron man, being able to take the power stone's "power" using his nano tech And now that iron man has nanotech, ant man won't enter his suit because it's not "thick" anymore because we saw that a thin layer when he was suiting up and blasting his ass like falcon did but better
i appreciate your work and agree with basically everything. nicely done. this is one of the very few 20+ minute youtube videos i actually watch front to back without stopping
Dr strange is way too low here IMO. Pretty sure he was caught by surprise by the maw similar to Thanos and stormbreaker. He was able to compete with the power of multiple infinity stones against Thanos, which I highly doubt the maw could do as all he has is telekinesis. I would even put him higher than scarlet witch current, as she clearly has more power but the arsenal of dimension breaking spells he has and control vs her would put him at an advantage. Especially if he gets the time stone back... 😏
It's just that Dr Strange hasn't shown his feats yet. Yes, the Thanos fight was awesome but not at good as the Wanda feats. He will rise above her in Dr Strange 2 for sure.
I heard that Shaggy at 3% power punched Thanos through dimensions, and that’s the real reason why Thanos was all charred in the last movie, and Shaggy actually ate the stones.
Wanda has some very powerful magic, Maw is very smart which is the game changer he can analyze the situation really fast and find a solution, plus unlike Wanda he doesn’t need to be close to get into peoples heads, even with her great power his intelligence is just to much of a threat and she’d probably lose.
It was stated by Agatha Harkness in the WandaVision finale that Wanda's power exceeds that of the Sorcerer Supreme, so that places her above both the Ancient One, and Doctor Strange in terms of scaling.
This tier list also shows just how insanely powerful the infinity stones are. Ronan was a whole 3 tiers beneath thanos, but then he’s on the same level with him when they both have just 1. The reason why ofc is because their power is so incomparable to anyone else that the only people they even get close to is each other. But, also because of this i believe strange should’ve been put higher up since he has essentially infinite amount of chances, time, and lives to do whatever he wants.
I understand why black widow is so low and it make sense due to the fact that she is a human assassin trained to fight HUMANS. She could still hold her own against Aliens. She is powerful just in a different way then some of the others
@@cartersaul2505 stormbreaker in the comics works the same a mjonir I think and mjonir resists call magic so that’s probably why it resisted the gauntlet
@@AskwhoQ And Captain marvel never fought a Max Gauntlet Thanos. I'm sure Thor would give MG Thanos a good fight for like a solid minute of combat with each stone unless Thanos snaps his fingers. I doubt Captain Marvel could pull that off without having an Infinity Stone herself.
Fantastic list. There were some vague disagreements I had that I can’t even remember because they were so small. I think they mainly had to do with Spider-Man and Dr. Strange. Either way, great job.
This is a really well-thought-out and put-together tier list. I would've ranked characters differently initially but the evidence you used really proved to me you thought this out. Love it.
for the most part, couple weard things still happend: gamora and quil r overrated they should be down, and ranking wong and the other sorcerer 3 ranks under strange is redicioulous, they can basically do the same thing (besides time stone, with time stone strange is arguble the most powerfull hero) and also ranking wasp 5 under antman, HELLO they litteraly have the same powers, arguble wasp is even stornger than ant man, if u do tier list stop going after main characters but have a realistic comparison...
And with the new episode of Wandavision, Wanda only proves she even stronger. I don’t think she goes into Asgard’s doom but I do think she’s even stronger in the team busters category taking the cake even she shes number one
I would argue that shes planetary, in the dark hold it was said "its her destiny to destroy the planet" implying she has the power to do so. Might even be universal
@@Carnage59666 Destroy the world could mean multiple things, but her one day reaching planet level seems possible. Universal seems like a pretty big jump though, lol.
It was stated by Agatha Harkness in the WandaVision finale that Wanda's power exceeds that of the Sorcerer Supreme, so that places her above both the Ancient One, and Doctor Strange in terms of scaling.
Keep in mind, Doctor Strange was able to fight nearly on par with Thanos who had 4 Infinity Stones at the time, and Wanda scales above him, so that makes Wanda the most powerful Avenger, and top tier within the MCU.
Correction, Hawkeye actually really doesn’t miss, like ever. The shots he took at Loki and Iron Man were all within part of the plan, to either distract or disrupt them somehow, which implies he didn’t miss. Same goes for the comics. If it looked like he missed, then he purposefully did it
@@weeaboo-warrior i agree with you there and their reasoning is about speed and her widow bite can stagger blsck panther but going up the tiers they are but more consistent but must say since I’ve finished the vid yours is very debatable
it matters on the person weilding them, iron man was not strong he cant wield them like thanos, or just any human, thanos is much stronger than the hulk,
I don’t know much about this stuff but isn’t dormammus dimension made of planets and even universes? If so then technically he’s multiversal unless I’m stupid
@@sagebias2251 still nope, Those characters called planetary for reason. They can destroy planets in one shot. Wanda can't do that. She still in same tier but much powerful now.
The thing with Wanda is that she has mindcontrol powers... we haven‘t seen her use those against stronger opponents, but I‘m pretty sure that she could beat anyone if she got into their head...
Pretty good list. I'd make some changes but over all it's very accurate in my opinion. Doctor Strange could be higher because Thanos needed 4 stones to defeat him while Doctor Strange did'nt use the time stone. I think, he should be in Team Busters like Thanos without stones. To be honest... Everyone who can use the mirror dimension would be hard to beat by others without this advantage (or an infinity stone) Also Ant-Man should be lower on the list. He can't stay in his giant form for long, is slowly in there and his combat skills aren't very good. Maybe Captain Marvel is a little bit too high because we didn't seen her in a long fight and her combat speed didn't look at fast as her travel speed so i'm not sure if she have a chance against the magicians. But this can be argued I guess.^^ Great video.
Vision should be higher. Way higher. Happy to debate. But it’s simple. He is a vibrainum android that than phase through 99% of things that has a literal infinity stone as a power source. He is super strong, can fly and has multiple combat AIs to help run through scenarios. He was done dirty in the MCU because he HAD to be taken off the board. He suffers the same flaw of Superman in the DCEU. Yeah Caps shield was broken and Thanos with 5 Stones ripped the stone from his head - but Caps shield is thinner than Vision and had taken a huge beating and at the time, Vision was practically dead.
@@ClubberOntop His Flaw like superman is that by being so strong that plot has to be written to nerf him so the movie doesn't turn into Vison and some others guys kinda like what the Justice League was with a massive chuck of it being all the rest of the heroes resurrecting Superman followed by getting their ass kicked constantly only to be saved by Superman.
I would guess stormbreaker was a pretty massive buff when you consider that it fully powered up a Thor who was nearly killed by absorbing the power of a star. Then consider that Thor got absolutely wiped by thanos, but was so confident that stormbreaker would put him on an even scale. Granted, he still got beat, but if it was a substantial enough buff to justify even trying then I think it’s worth throwing him a few spots higher
@@luckymark571 The directors kept him fat as a joke, they discussed him getting into shape while powering up in the final fight but thought it would be funny.
I thoroughly enjoyed this well thought out and clearly explained list. Thank you for your time and effort putting it together, I'll definitely subscribe.
@Dean van Zelst ur right she's a glass canon but you know she may get stronger physically and have more durability bc of the darkhold i mean she went against proxima midnight 1v1 if shes more experienced and stuff and now the darkhold may give her extra durability so she may become a bit physically stronger
He should of waited till after falcon and the wintersoilder than he could of added Zemo Agent 13 Flag smasher US patriant monica rambou Jimmy woo white vision Petro Agatha Speed and wiccon
@Deon Bailey I mean technically she is and technically she’s not. She is the source of all marvel crossover problems and can be considered a multidimensional threat seeing as she singlehandedly created her own reality the house of m while inviting the X-men over
@@solountiposinbigotehace84a66 Because up until recently they weren't canon. the D+ shows always were gong to be. They are also are very important to the movies. Netflix, Cloak and Dagger, Agents of Shield, and Runaways where never referenced in the MCU until basically now (no spoilers).
Loved the list honestly one of the most accurate tier lists I’ve seen for the mcu, hoping you do another at the rate all these new heroes/villains show up, also I might argue ironman could be a bit higher imo as he took numerous strikes from thanos who was enhanced by the stones at the time and thanos punched and blasted Tony with the power stone while a punch from the power stone knocked out carol, ironman also was able to block a strike from thanos in their fight just before he was stabbed and that was a heavily depleted suit couod just me bein ironman bias lol
This list was far from accurate 😂 he literally ignored context and placed heroes in bad spots. Spider-Man below captain America because of 1 instance? Is he ignoring the fact Spider-Man no selled cull obsidians full strike that would’ve killed iron man? Captain marvel is stronger than base Thanos? She only took the headbutt because she was absorbing the full gauntlet
@@Neon1880 I didn’t say the list was perfect but it’s much better than most I’ve seen and if you’ve seen a more accurate one I’d love to see it. But that strike wouldn’t have killed ironman he legit took strikes from thanos and cull wasn’t stronger than thanos, carols strength before absorbing was able to stagger thanos before she even grabbed his hand to absorb so it actually does make sense, I do agree tho soiderman should be higher there’s probably other things I’d tweak as well but it’s been over a month since I’ve seen the bud and I don’t feel like rewatching it atm
@@darkhawk3195 captain marvel staggered Thanos as well as Spider-Man did 😂 in endgame she literally gets her whole leg overpowered by Thanos’ hurt arm, meanwhile thor against Thanos’ good arm overpowered him till he was kicked away and that was in his weaker fat form, less agile
@@Neon1880 her hits staggered thanos much more than Spider-Man’s and you can clearly see that, also the mcu in general has inconsistencies example being iron man was able to go toe to toe with Thor and actually put up a fight yet gets overpowered by captain America ? But in general I think thor and carol should be on the same tier that’s my stance as I said this is the MOST accurate list I HAVE SEEN, you replied yet didn’t even give a better tier list I don’t wanna argue with a Brandon if you have an actual video send it I’m genuinely intrigued, if not STOP REPLYING
Most accurate tier list yet but strange would beat everyone in wandas section except Wanda. U cold also consider that capturing people in a time loop like with dormamu is a power because in that case noone can beat him. He can just make thanos give up snapping him because he just comes back like with dormamu
I think your ranking of vision was a little harsh but I mostly agree with the list other than Happy should 100% have his own tier him being omnipotent and all
Yeah, I thought about putting Vision above Ultron, but like I said, he just has a lack of feats. If Vision was evil and always fought to kill, there is a good chance he would be way higher.
The fact that this video has finally come out means I can officially die a happy man. Watching all those movies took guts and resolve only an anime protagonist could withstand. I commend you, good sir.
Like the only reason he lost to ebony is because he underestimated him because he could just send him into the mirror dimension and then boom he’s trapped forever
Actually if you remove dead characters from the list ( Entire planetary level, Thanos , Odin, Ancient One ) Wanda becomes second most powerful and Strange become #4 most powerful in the list I think
Okay, I was with you for the most part until you said that Ant-Man was over Dr. Strange. Doctor Strange easily did the best in his fight with thanos other than maybe Scarlett Witch. He also just has some insane hax abilities that allow him to beat many of the people above him. And if your giving him the timestone then there is literally nothing any of the characters above him (with the exception of thanos with the time stone) can do about it. He sets that time loop and he wins. Only reason he couldn't with Thanos is obviously because he was hiding it. He can even beat ego by looking into the millions of possible futures and exploiting his core's weakness. Yes Strange has a few antifeats, but if you have him go all out then nearly everyone above him just crumbles. There are some more minor things I disagree with like having Spiderman so low over a statement over an extremely inexperienced Peter, but they werent too bad, its just the Docter Strange placing that threw me for a loop Edit: shit I just realized i accidentally made a pun in that last sentence
My list didn’t count Strange getting prep time. If he is allowed to use the time stone to look at all possible futures ahead of time, of course he would be higher.
@@weeaboo-warrior even without prep time Strange could have beaten Thanos without the infinity gauntlet because the only reason Thanos won that fight is because the stones countered all of Strange his abilities. And I'd argue the sorcerer supreme could also have done that. She also stated in Endgame that Strange was supposed to be the best of them. That statement may not be linked to his overall power but coming from the sorcerer supreme that's also something to consider. My point is Dr Strange should be in the same tier as Thanos and Wanda and maybe the sorcerer supreme too. The best counter argument to this is that the psychic dude from the children if Thanos was able to beat strange. I always found that weird maybe he got caught of guard by his abilities? I don't know but yeah that happened. Also in Endgame the writers conveniently left Dr Strange out of the fight to deal with all that water. I believe this was done on purpose because Dr Strange could have just teleported alot or maybe even all of Thanos his army to the mirror dimension which would have also happened to Thanos if he didn't have the infinity stones in infinity war. But ofcourse I could be wrong about all of this that's just my take on this.
@@freezalo7521 Dr. Strange and The ancient one could definitely be argued up a tier. Another thing to keep in mind is Thanos one shot a wizard during the endgame battle without the gauntlet. Yeah, Dr. Strange should be way better than that wizard, but all wizards should still have pretty dangerous abilities. I also showed the statement from one of the writers who said he thought Thanos would have still beaten everyone on Titan even without the gauntlet. So I do think it makes sense for Strange to be able to win due to the types of powers he has, it seems to me story wise Thanos is intended to be stronger.
@@weeaboo-warrior you make fair points. That statement from the creators confuses me because they have Strange 1v1 Thanos in the beginning of the fight with 4 of the stones and Strange was doing pretty well on his own until he eventually got caught. Thanos without the gauntlet is a force to be reckoned with yes but without that gauntlet he loses his counters to strange's abilities which is why I'm confused with their statement on how they would still lose if Thanos lost his gauntlet. The moment the Thanos loses his gauntlet Strange has a number of different ways to "dispose" of him before Thanos has the chance to counter attack by for example doing the same he did to Loki in Thor ragnarok with the endless falling or the mirror dimension. But a counter to that is that Strange has to isolate Thanos for that so the moment they would have gotten the gauntlet off everyone who was occupied with restraining Thanos at that moment has to distance themselves from Thanos for Strange to be able to use either one of those 2 possible abilities he could use to dispose of Thanos, with Thanos being the superior fighter there they wouldn't be able to get away from him in time for Strange to do his thing. So the problem here isn't really Thanos himself it's the avengers who are restraining him that are in the way. That's a specific situation that the statement could apply to. But let's say just Thanos without the gauntlet in a 1v1 with Strange. Not a surprise attack or anything just a "normal" fight. Do you think Thanos would win that one? Because in my opinion Strange would only have the disadvantage if he's in range of Thanos. Which he most likely won't be. But in any case it's a discussion to be had and because that's the case Strange should in my opinion still be in the same tier as him. Maybe lower than him but still the same tier. But at the end of the day it's your list with your opinions and I respect that ofcourse.
@@freezalo7521 Yeah, I definitely thing Strange has a chance of beating Thanos if he is far enough away and can transport him to another area. With the Loki thing, Loki actually had plenty of time to react but just stood there because he didn't know what was going on, so doing that might not be so easy mid fight. Strange can send them to the mirror dimension and then try to leave Thanos there, but he tried to do that to Kaecilius and failed. Strange wasn't as good back then as he is now, but the one time he tried that strategy he failed. So theoretically Strange can win, I just have him lower due to on screen showings and statements. I think your opinion is completely valid.
Most of the MCU characters were nerfed. Thor could easily destroy a planet, and wanda went from rewriting the history of the universe on a whim to brainwashing a town
This is a very good video. For pre-Phase 4 I agree with pretty much every placement. Will you be doing an updated tier list? And if so, when will it be released?
Human Tier: 0:50 Super Human Tier: 3:42 Super Soldier Tier: 8:03 Low Super Hero Tier: 13:57 Mid Super Hero Tier: 18:44 High Super Hero Tier: 22:42 Team Buster Tier: 26:15 ASGARD'S DOOM!: 29:10 Planetary Tier: 29:56 Universal Tier: 31:56 Link for template: tiermaker.com/create/mcu-character-strength-power-tier-list-253756
People really underestimate the Guardians. Star-Lord is the son of Ego the Living Planet. He's a half celestials. I guarantee he didn't lose his powers, he'll see that he still has it in GOTG 3. He's literally a god. He should be team buster as his powers are insane. Gamora is the deadliest woman in the universe, daughter of Thanos, she should be in low super hero. Drax can easily whoop Bucky, Captain America, Red Skull, Vulture, yet there above. He is a super soldier level. Groot has beaten Hulk before, can lift more than a 100 tons, can use denrdokenesis, in a forest he is literally invincible. He is a mid super hero level. Rocket is super human but I still love him ♥️ P.S. Ultron is much stronger than what you ranked him. Took a lot of Avengers to finally take him down and Odin should be on Planetary level also.
you can`t forget, that 1. it`s based only on feats, and what we actually know (we don`t ´know, if peter still has celestial powers) 2. its only based on mcu, not comics, so groot (technically) might not be that strong, or at least we dont know yet
Yeah I believe that Peter didn’t lose his powers they just became dormant when his dad died and will stay dormant until idk he learns to awaken them again and control them
@@nataliawashington872 exactly. That was too great a power to just lose like that. They had to make it seem like he lost in cause he would've been too OP in Infinity War and would've made all the strong heros look weak as hell. I'm sure he'll find out he still has them in the next movie
Honestly, I don't think Hela would have that much of a problem with Captain Marvel or baseline Thanos. The problem with rating someone like the Scarlet Witch is that she is capable of incredible feats yet someone getting the jump on her with a brick in their hand could brain her and be done with it...typical glass cannon issues, about as powerful a cannon as you can get but still made of glass. Still, nice video and I love your commentary. You make it very interesting.
OG 2012 Avengers at their strongest Ranking: 1. Iron Man (with all 6 Infinity Stones) 2. Thor (God of Thunder; with Stormbreaker) 3. Hulk (Colosseum Arena) 4. Captain America (Worthy; with Mjolnir and Vibranium Shield) 5. Hawkeye 6. Black Widow
Pretty fair. You are the first person to rank Doctor Strange properly. And also changed some of my opinions with your arguments which is something no one has ever done so bravo. But of course not everyone is going to agree with everything so here is what I think. Odin should be above Surtur. Korg should be higher into the second tier. And Thor should be in team busters with Hela or even above her.
Celestials are able to control the stones in a better way, you've seen how universal scale attacks affected thanos' body despite being extremely durable and yet this celestial did a planetary one and walk away without a single scratch on him/her.
Cool tier list although I reckon it needs to be updated. Wong will need to be higher as shown when he defeats abomination. Wanda will also have to be higher possibly a potential universe buster when she shows more feats. Either way im interested in where shang chi and the mandarin rank onto the list (possibly around mountain level with the ten rings?)
Very good list but I'd argue thor should be at the bottom of team busters and if odin was placed he would be placed at the bottom of planetary as he beat a fully powered surtur and I personally believe thanos waited until he was dead as he was afraid of him also I believe he could have killed hela he just didn't want to because she's his daughter so he just banished her
I was thinking of putting Thor there but he just got his ass kicked by Thanos so badly I didn’t feel it would be right to have him in the same tier. He seemed closer to worthy Captain American. And I mentioned Odin in the Asgard doom tier.
Yeah I think as endgame thor was supposed to be stronger the infinity war thor and he was stronger then in ragnorok I feel endgame thor would be closer to hela level still just under but I feel he would be at the bottom of team busters and yeah odin would be atleast on par with surtur maybe the bottom of planetary for me 👍
Great video! Mostly agree although I think you’re putting captain marvel too high. When she first fights Thanos in endgame he slaps her around with ease. It seems to me that she was absorbing power from the gauntlet and that she was only able to tank a hit from him when powered up. Though to be fair that’s just how I interpreted that scene.
If she could only overpower Thanos due to taking power from the gauntlet I would agree with you, but I don't think there is actually proof that's the case.
I disagree with Thor's position. Yes in infinity war, he could easily have killed thanos. But in endgame when thor was stronger, I would argue that the reason he didn't fair too well against thanos is coz he was unfit. If you had brought thors body from infinity war combined with his current increase of strength, I have no doubts he could have easily shown impressive power against thanos
Shit scaling to be honest. Saying a present version of a character being weaker than their past self doesn't make any sense. If people are going to rank the strongest characters, can they actually go do research on debates and look into a scene more closely to figure out why that character didn't do so well against another character?
@@martom_x9977 yea he was stronger but let’s be real did Thor show any feat to prove he was stronger than his infinity war counterpart?😂bro got nerfed badly lol
The directors said Endgame Thor was stronger, so I would take their word over yours. I used to think IW Thor was a bit stronger as well, but there is nothing proving EG Thor isn't stronger, so I have to go with what the directors said. And Dr Strange and Ancient one have a chance of beating Captain Marvel, but Captain Marvel is faster and more powerful.
@@weeaboo-warrior it’s not whether or not he was stronger, it’s his fighting style that really took a hit in endgame. In EG, all Thor wanted to do was wack thanos with his hammer. If he was smarter (probably not as drunk) and more agile (not as fat), he would easily outmaneuver and use lighting to pretty definitively win against Thanos
@@oscarengebretsen2350 She can’t go at light speed in combat, but she is still faster than Strange, so he would have a hard time leaving her in the mirror dimension and getting out himself.
Thats so inacurrate....Captain Marvel got her ass kicked after thanos used the power stone....And thor was able to counter the full 6 stones...even tho thanos didnt expect that, The stones have the same amount of power everytime...they dont get weaker and you cant control how powerful the attack can be so my point still. PLUS Captain Marvel has the power of the Space Stone and Kevin Feige said that Stormbreaker was created to be more powerful against the stones especially. One hit from stormbreaker and He can easily cut through her.
top 5 heroes would be 1. scarlet witch 2.Dr strange (best showing against thanos forcing him to use the stones he had and dr strange was able to counter some of the stones with his own magic) 3. captain karen 4. Thor 5. Worthy Captain 3 and 4 can be interchangeable
@@weeaboo-warrior "Thor jokes all the time" yeah like hes joking when fighting thanos, malekith or loki. Hes taking those fights serious but not ultron. Also that fight lasted like 15 seconds and thor just wanted vision to use the hammer. In a longer fight thor would have smashed ultron.
@@jacobnorris8256 eh not really. If you are not taking someone serious, you dont think they are dangerous. Ultron didnt really even hurt him, thor was just fine after that "fight" (more like having fun with vision). And did go on to tank the explosion caused by sokovia, actually was in the middle of that. And was just fine.
@@Itsmyface Thor wasn't really joking, he was distracting. And he wanted Vision to use the hammer to help him, not because he just wanted to see him use it. It's possible Thor could have won in a longer fight, but there isn't really any proof. I actually had Thor above Ultron for a while when I was making the list, but decided to switch them since the only time they ever fought Ultron was winning.
Thor over powered every single infinity stone. The disrespect is crazy, I don’t care is thanos was “caught off guard”. He still had time to use all of the stones and meet stormbreaker before it was even halfway to him
@@notdababy8875 Odin is in top of the Planetary level, also when he was saying " you are powerful than me " he didn't mean Physically, He meant both pyschologically and mentally. Odin always thought he is bad father, He banished his daughter and almost was banishing his own son too. in fact, Odin is Powerful Skyfather + Powerful Asgardian + has odinforce While Thor is only powerful Asgardian with little amount of odinforce in himself. So Odin is always powerful than Thor, only version of Thor which is powerful than Odin is Rune King, but I don't think we will see him in MCU
@@chris_ss2 stop your bullshitting the rusos both said that thanos was caught of guard so he didn’t use the full power of the gauntlet and storm breaker can nullify the gauntlets power because its make of the same metal and by the same guy dont believe me? Just search for the video where they say it
I still think that Captain Marvel, Ancient One, and Doctor Strange could defeat Thanos (no stones) and Hela, maybe Doctor Strange should be the strongest in High Super Hero. And i don't see Valkery above Captain America or Black Panther, at least not without her flying horse
valkery is an elite asgardian soldier. Any asgardian soldier would defeat cap, they are imune to bullets for example. remember that loki defeated cap as well
Captain Marvel isn’t stronger than Thanos she only outpowered him when she absorbed the power the Stones. Valkery can lift about 75 tons but Panther can only 2 tons.
@@db-tuncturan4983 Lifting Streight isn't the same as striking streight. Also Black Panther without his suit defeat Bucky mindcontrolled and literally oneshoted Cull Obsidian; i don't see Valkyrie surviving that, maybe that wouldn't kill her but at least KO her.
thor wasn't able to rip through the infinity stone power because he didn't know it was coming it was because the axe was made out of a metal that allowed thor to manipulate and control energy it was specifically designed to do so because of his powers being able to summon Asgardian lightning
@@jeffscurrdale1283 I'm well aware but thors newest hammer the one with the axe head was specifically designed to manipulate energy and use it against people which is why his power flows so purely from it in the newer movies
You know they nerfed Hulk big-time compared to what he is really capable of as shown in the actual comics. World Breaker Hulk beat all the avengers single-handedly.
@@mrjamfy6862 you know every single avenger other than captain marvel is underpowered in the mcu, but yeah hulk should be much stronger than someone like captain marvel, in the comics hulk was able to tank captain marvel punches so long that she got tired and then just oneshotted him. I think hulk ahould be easily among scarlet witch doc strange and thor in power if mcu would be kinda the same as in the comics.
Quill beat Spider-Man on screen. Captain America beat Spider-Man on screen and Winter Soldier is almost equal with him. Gamora is just straight up stronger than Spider-Man and has a weapon meant for killing Asgardians.
Hulk was shown winning at the end of their fight in Avengers, and in Ragnarok he was winning until Thor unlocked his thunder god powers, and that version of Thor is one tier above Hulk.
Many characters can defeat Thanos 1v1 if Thanos doesn't use the IG. Strange, Captain Marvel, Thor, Scarlet Witch, Ironman, the ancient one, hela, ebony maw, and many more can all defeat Thanos if he doesn't have the infinity gauntlet. The only protagonist characters in the mcu that could solo defeat IG Thanos are Strange (with time stone), ancient one (with time stone) That's why the plot didn't allow strange to use it. Strange could have done was he did to Dormamu but the movie was about the avengers not another Doctor Strange movie
@@pmkallgren7648 iron man got his ass beat twice by thanos and the second time he had the strongest suit he ever had and lost to him even with thor a caps help
@@harrolddjani Iron Man got obliterated in Endgame by Thanos. The reason Doc didn't pull a Dormammu on Thanos is because Thanos isn't beyond time, so Thanos would never realize he was in a time loop. Thanos would slaughter any character on this list with the full gauntlet, other than Dormammu.
Thor > captain marvel. Thor’s axe was stronger than then a blast from all of the infinity stones so I would go through captain marvel and even after that Thor would definitely be able to tank all of her shots Only thing she has over him is speed
I don't see it. Captain Marvel and Thor both fought Thanos 1v1 within the same period of time. Thanos absolutely wiped the floor with Thor three times, once before Stormbreaker and twice after. Captain Marvel was able to tank a hit from Thanos without flinching and was physically overpowering him in all but one occasion before he used a barehanded Power stone blast. It's a pretty direct comparison and Captain Marvel comes out on top no matter how you look at it.
@@d3nyd except in the fat Thor vs Thanos fight, Thor was incredible mentally deteriated, he basically drunk himself into a hole to try and forget the events of IW, as seen as early on in the movie when hulk so much as mentioned thanos's name. IW Thor is stronger than endgame Thor solely because he's actaully right in the head. Your not gonna be able to perform at your best when you're physically or mentally in pieces. Thor also withstood the concentrated energy of a star which puts him at star level durability. So there aren't many characters who can actaully harm Thor outside of planatary level biengs. Even though Thor got the drop on thanos in IW, CM also got the drop on thanos in her confrontation with him in EG. So it's up to you whether or not you rank Thor in IW higher than CM for these reasons but that's the way I see it :)
This tier list will definitely need a video update after “Doctor Strange and the multiverse of madness”, or maybe after “Thor Love and Thunder”, so much has happed (power scaling wise) in the MCU since this video was made. We don’t even know how powerful Kang can be or even the celestials powers are Planetary or higher in this tier list. I actually think that since this video was made, the MCU had the most change in terms of story and power from some characters. Example: Loki is probably much more powerful with his magic and in hand to hand combat after the Loki series, just look at his older variant and how powerful his illusion magic can be. 2 Example: Wanda has learned about her true powers, she is much more powerful and after reading the DarkHold Holly shit, will see how much more powerful she is in D S multiverse of madness. And we’ve seen how powerful Doctor Strange can be in the What if series, I can even argue that variant of Doctor Strange can give Thanos with all the stones a Run for his money or even beat him and definitely beat Dormammu with mid to high diff, I mean, thinking about it, I’m sure he is even more powerful than any celestial, he has multiversal scaling powers, enough to stop a whole universe from destructing itself (creating a pocket dimension) without the help of any outside source or infinity stone, after he was even the one who caused it , he fucking changed an absolute point in time having just the time stone, I think not even Thanos with all the stones Can do that. That’s why I would love to see a video update after D S multiverse of madness or after Thor Love and Thunder, since those movies I think will really show how powerful Doctor Strange, Wanda and Thor can really be (since I think they will be the most powerful characters from the “heroes” side up till those movies). At least in the MCU
@@theheiken5684 What I was trying to say is, after the new movies, power wise, it’s going to be so different in the MCU that he will need to do another MCU tier list.
Dr. Strange stopped looking after 14,605,000 possibilities. If he looked for 14,605,001 instead, he would see 2 winning scenarios. The other one is Luis knocking out Thanos in one punch.
Oh hmmmm yes
It was 14,000,605 not 14,605,000
14,605,002
Ant man grows inside Thanos
Fun fact: those were all options with those versions of those characters from that specific time point with that specific gear and knowledge
@@alexdelacruz7216 😂
The Avengers lost the first time against Thanos because they didn’t have Hawkeye. Hawkeye in Universal Tier confirmed.
he's Behind Howard the Duck and Luis.
@Annie Cronin ikr hes almost as useless as sakura
@@somedanieiguy1 at least sakura can heal ,but Hawkeye ??
At least he's alive unlike, iron man, captain America, and black widow... And I'm not sure we'll see the real hulk again. And Thor is FAT. Fat but still strong.
@@j.jonahjameson1281 Captain America should still be alive as far as we are aware. He is just old now.
Wanda got a huge upgrade since her tussle with Thanos in End Game. She got access to the Dark Hold, unlocked reality warping, absorbed the power of an ancient witch, and became more psychically healed and ascended into a prophesied form. Agatha Harkness warned that the Scarlet Witch can destroy the word. She could be beyond planetary depending on what the MCU means by the "Nexus" Easter Egg in WandaVision. She can also manifest breakfast for dinner out of the vacuum of space.
Completely agree
Marvel casuals are going to overrate her now. She’s powerful, but they’re saying she’s the most powerful non god in Marvel which is bullshit.
@@dd_doesit who do you believe to be more powerful than her? from the top of my head ig thanos, ego, dormammu, anyone else? I haven't watched the thor 2 and the gotg movies so idk
@@goranorsolic1000 Thor, okay to be fair she beat him so bad in the comics that he didn’t want to fight her anymore, but i think Rune King Thor can beat her.
Well he did say phase 3 so no and phase 4 she’s a completely different breed so I agree but he isn’t taking phase 4 into account
Spider-Man is well above cap, winter soldier and any other super soldiers. When iron man stated that cap could beat Spider-Man we was referring to his experience and hand to hand combat. In terms of pure strength , Spider-Man wins with ease
True!
Comic spiderman? 100% but, Tom holland spiderman has been shown as a whiny pussy in like 90% of his movies so I can understand the placement for this specific interpretation lmao
He did beat him in the movie though
And this list is going off of who beats who
Rather than potentially who is stronger
The list is power scaling not who wins in an arm wrestling match it’s taking in to account everything experience armor weapons statements from other characters as well and how can you get more concrete than someone facially stating something is true in canon
@@jaydenjames1559 Yeah and he was talking about a wildly inexperienced Peter who had never fought other superhumans before and Iron Man underestimated Peter's power to begin with and didn't think he was even strong enough to beat Vulture. By the end of Far From Home, Peter 100% has the experience and mastery of his powers to beat Cap.
I think this tier list is decent for the most part with the amount of characters put on it. However I think it's based a little too heavily on who beats who rather than a character's feats.
That's the point if the character beats the other character that means that character has more features than the other so yeah
the movies did not show how much about the characters and their strength, there's too much of them, to little screen time to see anything.
i agree with you.
A>B>C does not necessarily mean A>C
I love when people don’t understand this concept.
@@tpkchubbzz2651 I love when people leave egocentric open ended statements to make themselves sound smarter.
This is inaccurate Luis should be in the top tier list every person he has throw a punch to he knocked Them out in one punch he could probably knock out thanos in one
Yes
Better than star lord ofc
Crazy
Suprised how hard he punches
Him vs young Happy, who you got?
@@handsomesquidward5160 luis
I guess Wanda should be higher now that she is now the destroyer of the world. (Her Destiny) and learning dark and demon magics.
She should have been able to kill surtur cause she could use invisibility spell, endlessly throw chaos magic at him and maybe even mind control him
Daisy is the destroyer of worlds
Wanda would kill the shit out of Thanos with all of the stones as The Scarlet Witch.
Where do you get your drugs at asking for a friend
@@tuatagovailoa8268 lol
I bet this was a very hard list to put together. And many people will have problems with placements but all in all you did a really good job explaining your reasoning.
wandavision really solidified wanda’s spot. I’m so glad we got to see her teleport, use a force field, and do her mind control thing. also that creepy speed walk thing. i’m relieved that’s an actual power of hers and not just a movie editing choice.
the effects for the creepy speed walk thing we're absolutely horrendous
Which film was that in?
@@milospesic2454 age of ultron and wandavison
She and her son can also handle speedsters
This aged well
there definitely should have been a "soldier" their for people like black widow, hawkeye and crossbones. because those guys are nowhere ever close to happy hogan and definitely more than humans
I was originally going to have an elite human tier, but cut down on some of the characters I was going to add and just combined them.
@@weeaboo-warrior yeah, that makes sense. good video.
Happy should be at least planetary tier and you cant convince me otherwise
I feel odin would be higher, he did conquer the 9 realms, seal Hella away, beat Surtur, have possession of so many powerful wepins and items, he casually took Thors hammer, show the ability to give and take powers, these were all his on screen moments let alone the ones we didnt see
I think weeaboo warrior said he just decided to leave him of.
I think he’s be placed right above Surtur.
I think he wrongly puts Ronan, he's not stronger than Ego cause he has not the full control on power stone (as the celastial showed in gotg has, who's able to destroy entire planets). I think Odin is arguably on the same level of Ego, and right below Thanos during Titan's fight. People probably don't get he's one of the strongest gods if not the strongest, and just by this fact he's of course stronger than Ronan, and probably even more stronger than Ego
i couldnt see him at the list
Mantis is highly under rated imo, after guardians 3 she’s shown to have mastered her mind control powers so much that she can tame 3 of those big guys the rest of the guardians struggled to beat in gotg2, also she held control over Thanos and ego in his planetary form.
Yeah she would go higher now. She will be higher in my phase 4 update video.
@@weeaboo-warriorI haven’t watched your full video yet I’m waiting to see if you probably scaled celestial star lord
@@weeaboo-warrioryou put him human form in the rank I agree with. I would have put him a bit higher because of his strategist skills but I still like the spot you placed him
Dude, Spider-man has like 20 times the strength of Captain America. Why do you think Bucky was so bewildered that he could move his arm with little to no effort?
Exactly, Spider-Man could fuck up Captain America easily, he is very underrated in terms of power.
True, but Spider-Man doesn’t have as much experience as them, so they could manage Spider-Man
Prime spidey comes close to hulk strength. he definitly got shafted in this list
@@liammcguire1954 spiderman can lift a car, cap can kick a car and move it a little
@@serkankabatas Cap was able to deadlift a 40000 kg steelbeam. He could lift multiple cars at once.
This is hella inaccurate, how is a raccoon in the same tier as Asgardians, also Dr. Strange and Antman in the same tier?
he put them in the same tier because Ant man has contributed immensely in the destruction of Thanos’ army one shotting Cull Obsidian. also raccoon is a sneaky little genius that will catch you off guard with a moon destroying rockst launcher for example.
yeah racoon has good guns and intellgient and super agile .
@@randombanana640 Same with asgardians but they are even stronger and have Weapons stronger than vibranium
Rocket beat up around 100 trained space pirates alone, making them look like little girls, he would have litteraly beaten all the ravagers if Yondu didn't stop him. He has mechanical and biological enhancement like a super soldier, the only reason why he is not in the super soldier category has to do with being a raccoon with very limited physical strenght.
Rocket isn't a raccon sooo.
When Ant man is more powerful then captain America with Thor’s hammer and doctor strange with the time stone😂
It’s based off of feats, he used little speculation and went off of what is directly shown but I do think Ant Man could still win depending, as we know if he were to just quickly enlarge and grab Strange then the fights over. And Ant Man one shotted Obsidian so that shows that his strength and durability are high not only that but if he shrinks then Cap literally won’t be able to touch him and then Ant Man will either just slowly beat his ass or enlarge on him
@@demontiming3234 like how black widow just tased him or the fact that he's actually punchable when still small
Vision just simply did a canonball on giant man making him lose balance
Strange outsmarted Dormammu btw and it's baffling me that he may not do the same with with Ant-man
Strange also kept up with 4 stone thanos, or same with iron man, being able to take the power stone's "power" using his nano tech
And now that iron man has nanotech, ant man won't enter his suit because it's not "thick" anymore because we saw that a thin layer when he was suiting up and blasting his ass like falcon did but better
@@demontiming3234 hulk ripping that man arm off bro and smacking Him with it
And more powerful than bleeding edge iron man.
Strange with time stone pulls a dormamu situation
i appreciate your work and agree with basically everything. nicely done. this is one of the very few 20+ minute youtube videos i actually watch front to back without stopping
*has a human tier*
*puts literal aliens in it*
Human or same level as human
That's, that's sad
When groot is on the same level as falcon 🤡
Bro, I just said this to him! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Tranquility._ bro, I said this shit. Lol
Dr strange is way too low here IMO. Pretty sure he was caught by surprise by the maw similar to Thanos and stormbreaker. He was able to compete with the power of multiple infinity stones against Thanos, which I highly doubt the maw could do as all he has is telekinesis. I would even put him higher than scarlet witch current, as she clearly has more power but the arsenal of dimension breaking spells he has and control vs her would put him at an advantage. Especially if he gets the time stone back... 😏
It's just that Dr Strange hasn't shown his feats yet. Yes, the Thanos fight was awesome but not at good as the Wanda feats. He will rise above her in Dr Strange 2 for sure.
qucksilver can kill him faster then he can say abracad... :)). Doctor strange has 0 durability, 1 mistake and he is dead.
@@ironcross5771 ez time loop
@@impg8801 Quicksilver I've come to bargain
@@ironcross5771 miror dimension and boom
I heard that Shaggy at 3% power punched Thanos through dimensions, and that’s the real reason why Thanos was all charred in the last movie, and Shaggy actually ate the stones.
This is so funny with the vast difference between the comics and movies. Great video
I’d love to see Ebony maw vs Scarlet Witch, who’s power is inconsequential now?
I think after the last episode of wandavision I got wanda
It’s obviously to Wanda lol
Wanda basically also has the powers of the reality stone now so she could clap him
@@elmasworld9756 yeah
Wanda has some very powerful magic, Maw is very smart which is the game changer he can analyze the situation really fast and find a solution, plus unlike Wanda he doesn’t need to be close to get into peoples heads, even with her great power his intelligence is just to much of a threat and she’d probably lose.
Just wait until after Wandavision.
This might change soon.
Well, I think Wanda is still Team Busters tier. Monica(Spectrum) must be also Team Buster tier if she know how to use her power.
@@DMTHOTH well yeah we saw that she's more than team buster
@@DMTHOTH are you sure know?
@@EasyWater nope, she is still in team busters tier
It was stated by Agatha Harkness in the WandaVision finale that Wanda's power exceeds that of the Sorcerer Supreme, so that places her above both the Ancient One, and Doctor Strange in terms of scaling.
Mordo's ranking will surely increase when Doctor Strange 2 comes out
hes gonna be the villain right?
@@kylemccormick5733 yep
@@eesxh I think he’s just one of the villains. It looks so cool
He was trash lmfao, actually nerfed by a lot in comparison to the comics
@Crispy N Crunchy Ahahahahhh
This tier list also shows just how insanely powerful the infinity stones are. Ronan was a whole 3 tiers beneath thanos, but then he’s on the same level with him when they both have just 1. The reason why ofc is because their power is so incomparable to anyone else that the only people they even get close to is each other. But, also because of this i believe strange should’ve been put higher up since he has essentially infinite amount of chances, time, and lives to do whatever he wants.
I understand why black widow is so low and it make sense due to the fact that she is a human assassin trained to fight HUMANS. She could still hold her own against Aliens. She is powerful just in a different way then some of the others
I think Thor should be just as high as Captain Marvel because he is much more durable and his axe can literally cut through just about anything
You could make a argument saying stormbreaker Thor in infinity war can beat captain marvel because of him blocking the infinite gauntlet blast
@@AskwhoQ
Well the director said it was made to do that but I still think he should be higher
@@cartersaul2505 stormbreaker in the comics works the same a mjonir I think and mjonir resists call magic so that’s probably why it resisted the gauntlet
@@AskwhoQ Well this Isn’t the comics but yeah
@@AskwhoQ And Captain marvel never fought a Max Gauntlet Thanos. I'm sure Thor would give MG Thanos a good fight for like a solid minute of combat with each stone unless Thanos snaps his fingers. I doubt Captain Marvel could pull that off without having an Infinity Stone herself.
Fantastic list. There were some vague disagreements I had that I can’t even remember because they were so small. I think they mainly had to do with Spider-Man and Dr. Strange. Either way, great job.
Ye the spiderman one was hella dumb
Agreed, Dr strange should be below hela and above Thor. The time stone is the main reason he would be in the same realm of power as Wanda and hela.
This is a really well-thought-out and put-together tier list. I would've ranked characters differently initially but the evidence you used really proved to me you thought this out. Love it.
for the most part, couple weard things still happend: gamora and quil r overrated they should be down, and ranking wong and the other sorcerer 3 ranks under strange is redicioulous, they can basically do the same thing (besides time stone, with time stone strange is arguble the most powerfull hero) and also ranking wasp 5 under antman, HELLO they litteraly have the same powers, arguble wasp is even stornger than ant man, if u do tier list stop going after main characters but have a realistic comparison...
And with the new episode of Wandavision, Wanda only proves she even stronger. I don’t think she goes into Asgard’s doom but I do think she’s even stronger in the team busters category taking the cake even she shes number one
Yeah, if anything I think Wandavision further solidified where I put her. She was also confirmed to be stronger than the sorcerer supreme.
I would argue that shes planetary, in the dark hold it was said "its her destiny to destroy the planet" implying she has the power to do so. Might even be universal
@@Carnage59666 Destroy the world could mean multiple things, but her one day reaching planet level seems possible. Universal seems like a pretty big jump though, lol.
It was stated by Agatha Harkness in the WandaVision finale that Wanda's power exceeds that of the Sorcerer Supreme, so that places her above both the Ancient One, and Doctor Strange in terms of scaling.
Keep in mind, Doctor Strange was able to fight nearly on par with Thanos who had 4 Infinity Stones at the time, and Wanda scales above him, so that makes Wanda the most powerful Avenger, and top tier within the MCU.
I stopped watching when he put red skull over Spider-Man lmao
He said that Bucky would’ve win against spider man but the funny thing is, spider man did beat Bucky in civil war.
@@Enesggoker not just Bucky, but both Bucky and Falcon at the same time; and he was just playing around.
@@Pastamist tru
That's just Spider-Man's weaker form, his strongest form is still higher than red skull
I stopped watching when he put Spiderman on that tier at all in my opinion most of them were low super hero
Correction, Hawkeye actually really doesn’t miss, like ever. The shots he took at Loki and Iron Man were all within part of the plan, to either distract or disrupt them somehow, which implies he didn’t miss. Same goes for the comics. If it looked like he missed, then he purposefully did it
Copium
I mean, it isnt possible to always hit against people who are faster or at least have faster reaction time then his arrow
Once again, PHENOMENAL tiering! By far the best tier-maker in the game, not to mention the range!
Thank you!
Most accurate ranking I’ve ever seen, good job!
I’ve seen worse but wasn’t best either go on key issues discord their mcu tier list is more accurate
@@theocooper2203 I disagree. They have characters like abomination below black widow.
@@weeaboo-warrior i agree with you there and their reasoning is about speed and her widow bite can stagger blsck panther but going up the tiers they are but more consistent but must say since I’ve finished the vid yours is very debatable
Dude this is awful. I'm sure you worked hard and in respect that but the logic is awful.
@@deathxul777 Can you explain?
You can’t argue with thanoses place because when he has all the stones he is basically a god
but then anyone who could aquire all the stones would be just as powerful. the power lies in the stones, not in Thanos.
@@coleysumner9433 thanos is powerful asf tho anyway he beat hulk easily in hand to hand combat
it matters on the person weilding them, iron man was not strong he cant wield them like thanos, or just any human, thanos is much stronger than the hulk,
@ fact thanos was strong enough
I don’t know much about this stuff but isn’t dormammus dimension made of planets and even universes? If so then technically he’s multiversal unless I’m stupid
i just disagree with worthy cap being so high and dr strange being so low
Gotta say man, this is the only mcu character ranking video I found satisfying. Really well thought out.
stop the cap!
The best list I have ever seen. The Wandavision finale is next week. I suspect her position after that will be very different.
Nope. Can't be higher than that. Do you even know other characters above her?
@@theheiken5684 I think she will move up two tiers.
@@theheiken5684 Season is over. She probably only goes up one tier. Maybe after she is educated she could go up another.
@@sagebias2251 still nope, Those characters called planetary for reason. They can destroy planets in one shot. Wanda can't do that. She still in same tier but much powerful now.
It stayed the same lol
The thing with Wanda is that she has mindcontrol powers... we haven‘t seen her use those against stronger opponents, but I‘m pretty sure that she could beat anyone if she got into their head...
She hit Thor and Agatha with her mind control. I wonder just how high up the list she could go
especially after the finale of wandavision
Also her power is really dark. Her mind control and enchantment works differently than sylvie's. She puts nightmares on people she controls.
But her body is still human. So almost every charakter could defeat her with a surprise attack or strategie though.
@@denzelepolito1 I wonder where Agatha would place. She seems super powerful. Around Thanos level I think.
Pretty good list. I'd make some changes but over all it's very accurate in my opinion.
Doctor Strange could be higher because Thanos needed 4 stones to defeat him while Doctor Strange did'nt use the time stone. I think, he should be in Team Busters like Thanos without stones. To be honest... Everyone who can use the mirror dimension would be hard to beat by others without this advantage (or an infinity stone)
Also Ant-Man should be lower on the list. He can't stay in his giant form for long, is slowly in there and his combat skills aren't very good.
Maybe Captain Marvel is a little bit too high because we didn't seen her in a long fight and her combat speed didn't look at fast as her travel speed so i'm not sure if she have a chance against the magicians. But this can be argued I guess.^^
Great video.
Awsome tierlist man, this helped me make my own tierlist
@@quickhallsshow576 thanks, and cool!
Vision should be higher. Way higher.
Happy to debate. But it’s simple. He is a vibrainum android that than phase through 99% of things that has a literal infinity stone as a power source. He is super strong, can fly and has multiple combat AIs to help run through scenarios. He was done dirty in the MCU because he HAD to be taken off the board. He suffers the same flaw of Superman in the DCEU.
Yeah Caps shield was broken and Thanos with 5 Stones ripped the stone from his head - but Caps shield is thinner than Vision and had taken a huge beating and at the time, Vision was practically dead.
What flaw of Dceu Superman?
DCeU Superman Would beat Most On This List
@@ClubberOntop which is my point. If Superman had been in Justice League sooner then he’d have beat the villain in a second.
@@ClubberOntop which is my point. If Superman had been in Justice League sooner then he’d have beat the villain in a second.
@@borgCube100 Oh Yeah OFC
But How does that Relate to Vision
Vision Could Beat MOST of The Black Order maybe not Ebony Maw,
Everyone else he stomps
@@ClubberOntop His Flaw like superman is that by being so strong that plot has to be written to nerf him so the movie doesn't turn into Vison and some others guys kinda like what the Justice League was with a massive chuck of it being all the rest of the heroes resurrecting Superman followed by getting their ass kicked constantly only to be saved by Superman.
I’m so glad ppl finally noticed how luis can win every fight with one punch I’ve been talking about this for a while
I would guess stormbreaker was a pretty massive buff when you consider that it fully powered up a Thor who was nearly killed by absorbing the power of a star. Then consider that Thor got absolutely wiped by thanos, but was so confident that stormbreaker would put him on an even scale. Granted, he still got beat, but if it was a substantial enough buff to justify even trying then I think it’s worth throwing him a few spots higher
By a few, I mean just promote him up a tier. I’d estimate him to be right around hella
I think why thanos defeated him in endgame was cuz he was out of shape compared to his infinity war appearance
@@luckymark571 Myth wise he should be stronger in his fat form.
@@luckymark571 The directors kept him fat as a joke, they discussed him getting into shape while powering up in the final fight but thought it would be funny.
I thoroughly enjoyed this well thought out and clearly explained list. Thank you for your time and effort putting it together, I'll definitely subscribe.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
I think Wanda should go well above Thanos without the gauntlet, cause one on one, she would destroy him
But I also feel like wandas durability isn’t the greatest either for the people around her tier
He made this before the end of Wanda vision
@Dean van Zelst ur right she's a glass canon but you know she may get stronger physically and have more durability bc of the darkhold i mean she went against proxima midnight 1v1 if shes more experienced and stuff and now the darkhold may give her extra durability so she may become a bit physically stronger
@Dean van Zelst but she's a mainly a long ranged fighter. It would be difficult to get near her
@@ChrisS-wy3im yh but the list isnt abt durability even though this list is soooooo wrong lol
I think you did a great job, the only difference I would make is placing Thor as last in team buster, seeing how many people he takes out at a time
If only would he make this tier list after seeing the WandaVision finale...
He should of waited till after falcon and the wintersoilder than he could of added Zemo Agent 13 Flag smasher US patriant monica rambou Jimmy woo white vision Petro Agatha Speed and wiccon
@Deon Bailey
I mean technically she is and technically she’s not. She is the source of all marvel crossover problems and can be considered a multidimensional threat seeing as she singlehandedly created her own reality the house of m while inviting the X-men over
RIGHT
@@codeblack9407 He didn't include the defenders nor agents of shield, wth would he include specifically falcon and the ws?
@@solountiposinbigotehace84a66 Because up until recently they weren't canon. the D+ shows always were gong to be. They are also are very important to the movies. Netflix, Cloak and Dagger, Agents of Shield, and Runaways where never referenced in the MCU until basically now (no spoilers).
Loved the list honestly one of the most accurate tier lists I’ve seen for the mcu, hoping you do another at the rate all these new heroes/villains show up, also I might argue ironman could be a bit higher imo as he took numerous strikes from thanos who was enhanced by the stones at the time and thanos punched and blasted Tony with the power stone while a punch from the power stone knocked out carol, ironman also was able to block a strike from thanos in their fight just before he was stabbed and that was a heavily depleted suit couod just me bein ironman bias lol
Thanks, I’ll likely make an updated list right when phase 4 is complete.
This list was far from accurate 😂 he literally ignored context and placed heroes in bad spots. Spider-Man below captain America because of 1 instance? Is he ignoring the fact Spider-Man no selled cull obsidians full strike that would’ve killed iron man? Captain marvel is stronger than base Thanos? She only took the headbutt because she was absorbing the full gauntlet
@@Neon1880 I didn’t say the list was perfect but it’s much better than most I’ve seen and if you’ve seen a more accurate one I’d love to see it. But that strike wouldn’t have killed ironman he legit took strikes from thanos and cull wasn’t stronger than thanos, carols strength before absorbing was able to stagger thanos before she even grabbed his hand to absorb so it actually does make sense, I do agree tho soiderman should be higher there’s probably other things I’d tweak as well but it’s been over a month since I’ve seen the bud and I don’t feel like rewatching it atm
@@darkhawk3195 captain marvel staggered Thanos as well as Spider-Man did 😂 in endgame she literally gets her whole leg overpowered by Thanos’ hurt arm, meanwhile thor against Thanos’ good arm overpowered him till he was kicked away and that was in his weaker fat form, less agile
@@Neon1880 her hits staggered thanos much more than Spider-Man’s and you can clearly see that, also the mcu in general has inconsistencies example being iron man was able to go toe to toe with Thor and actually put up a fight yet gets overpowered by captain America ? But in general I think thor and carol should be on the same tier that’s my stance as I said this is the MOST accurate list I HAVE SEEN, you replied yet didn’t even give a better tier list I don’t wanna argue with a Brandon if you have an actual video send it I’m genuinely intrigued, if not STOP REPLYING
Most accurate tier list yet but strange would beat everyone in wandas section except Wanda. U cold also consider that capturing people in a time loop like with dormamu is a power because in that case noone can beat him. He can just make thanos give up snapping him because he just comes back like with dormamu
Strange definitely beats wanna
@@retrostep5781 nah not anymore. have u watched wanda vision?
@Aaron True. But in the show it says she will be more powerful than the sorcerer supreme.
He couldn't make Thanos give up snapping him because if Thanos could snap him that means he has the time stone and doctor strange doesn't
@@volcanicshrimp1749 shit that’s true I’m dum
I think your ranking of vision was a little harsh but I mostly agree with the list other than Happy should 100% have his own tier him being omnipotent and all
Yeah, I thought about putting Vision above Ultron, but like I said, he just has a lack of feats. If Vision was evil and always fought to kill, there is a good chance he would be way higher.
@@weeaboo-warrior fitting of what the post credits scene of last episode of wandavision
The fact that this video has finally come out means I can officially die a happy man. Watching all those movies took guts and resolve only an anime protagonist could withstand. I commend you, good sir.
wow that exelent tier list
and i think i agree wit that
it probly took a lot of think to get that meny characters
good job
thank you
Broooo you forgot drax has invisibility
He was so still I forgot.
@@weeaboo-warrior where the hell was galactus
@@mrminkman952 He isn’t in the MCU yet.
@@weeaboo-warrior bloody hell
@@mrminkman952 If you were joking my bad, I didn’t re-read the original comment and see that was a joke.
The disrespect towards doc strange is insane, man is second only to Wanda, surtur, Odin, hela, dormammu, and ego so a little more that 2 I guess
Like the only reason he lost to ebony is because he underestimated him because he could just send him into the mirror dimension and then boom he’s trapped forever
fr, strange could be stronger than pretty much all but odin if he gets the time stone back, odin would be planetary honestly
Actually if you remove dead characters from the list ( Entire planetary level, Thanos , Odin, Ancient One ) Wanda becomes second most powerful and Strange become #4 most powerful in the list I think
he really did dr strange dirty hes the second most powerful Hero in the avengers
plus Ebony Maw (considering that he was beat by Maw)
"Hawkeye is a bigger weeboo than me. He bothered learning japanese"😂😂
Finally someone understands that Wanda is not weak
Okay, I was with you for the most part until you said that Ant-Man was over Dr. Strange. Doctor Strange easily did the best in his fight with thanos other than maybe Scarlett Witch. He also just has some insane hax abilities that allow him to beat many of the people above him. And if your giving him the timestone then there is literally nothing any of the characters above him (with the exception of thanos with the time stone) can do about it. He sets that time loop and he wins. Only reason he couldn't with Thanos is obviously because he was hiding it. He can even beat ego by looking into the millions of possible futures and exploiting his core's weakness. Yes Strange has a few antifeats, but if you have him go all out then nearly everyone above him just crumbles. There are some more minor things I disagree with like having Spiderman so low over a statement over an extremely inexperienced Peter, but they werent too bad, its just the Docter Strange placing that threw me for a loop
Edit: shit I just realized i accidentally made a pun in that last sentence
My list didn’t count Strange getting prep time. If he is allowed to use the time stone to look at all possible futures ahead of time, of course he would be higher.
@@weeaboo-warrior even without prep time Strange could have beaten Thanos without the infinity gauntlet because the only reason Thanos won that fight is because the stones countered all of Strange his abilities. And I'd argue the sorcerer supreme could also have done that. She also stated in Endgame that Strange was supposed to be the best of them. That statement may not be linked to his overall power but coming from the sorcerer supreme that's also something to consider. My point is Dr Strange should be in the same tier as Thanos and Wanda and maybe the sorcerer supreme too. The best counter argument to this is that the psychic dude from the children if Thanos was able to beat strange. I always found that weird maybe he got caught of guard by his abilities? I don't know but yeah that happened. Also in Endgame the writers conveniently left Dr Strange out of the fight to deal with all that water. I believe this was done on purpose because Dr Strange could have just teleported alot or maybe even all of Thanos his army to the mirror dimension which would have also happened to Thanos if he didn't have the infinity stones in infinity war. But ofcourse I could be wrong about all of this that's just my take on this.
@@freezalo7521 Dr. Strange and The ancient one could definitely be argued up a tier. Another thing to keep in mind is Thanos one shot a wizard during the endgame battle without the gauntlet. Yeah, Dr. Strange should be way better than that wizard, but all wizards should still have pretty dangerous abilities. I also showed the statement from one of the writers who said he thought Thanos would have still beaten everyone on Titan even without the gauntlet. So I do think it makes sense for Strange to be able to win due to the types of powers he has, it seems to me story wise Thanos is intended to be stronger.
@@weeaboo-warrior you make fair points. That statement from the creators confuses me because they have Strange 1v1 Thanos in the beginning of the fight with 4 of the stones and Strange was doing pretty well on his own until he eventually got caught. Thanos without the gauntlet is a force to be reckoned with yes but without that gauntlet he loses his counters to strange's abilities which is why I'm confused with their statement on how they would still lose if Thanos lost his gauntlet. The moment the Thanos loses his gauntlet Strange has a number of different ways to "dispose" of him before Thanos has the chance to counter attack by for example doing the same he did to Loki in Thor ragnarok with the endless falling or the mirror dimension. But a counter to that is that Strange has to isolate Thanos for that so the moment they would have gotten the gauntlet off everyone who was occupied with restraining Thanos at that moment has to distance themselves from Thanos for Strange to be able to use either one of those 2 possible abilities he could use to dispose of Thanos, with Thanos being the superior fighter there they wouldn't be able to get away from him in time for Strange to do his thing. So the problem here isn't really Thanos himself it's the avengers who are restraining him that are in the way. That's a specific situation that the statement could apply to. But let's say just Thanos without the gauntlet in a 1v1 with Strange. Not a surprise attack or anything just a "normal" fight. Do you think Thanos would win that one? Because in my opinion Strange would only have the disadvantage if he's in range of Thanos. Which he most likely won't be. But in any case it's a discussion to be had and because that's the case Strange should in my opinion still be in the same tier as him. Maybe lower than him but still the same tier. But at the end of the day it's your list with your opinions and I respect that ofcourse.
@@freezalo7521 Yeah, I definitely thing Strange has a chance of beating Thanos if he is far enough away and can transport him to another area. With the Loki thing, Loki actually had plenty of time to react but just stood there because he didn't know what was going on, so doing that might not be so easy mid fight. Strange can send them to the mirror dimension and then try to leave Thanos there, but he tried to do that to Kaecilius and failed. Strange wasn't as good back then as he is now, but the one time he tried that strategy he failed. So theoretically Strange can win, I just have him lower due to on screen showings and statements. I think your opinion is completely valid.
I hate how badly Hulk was nerfed in the movies compared to the comics
Most characters have nerfs, but Hulk would indeed be one of the worst examples, as he should have been above Iron Man tier characters.
Most of the MCU characters were nerfed. Thor could easily destroy a planet, and wanda went from rewriting the history of the universe on a whim to brainwashing a town
2008 Hulk would be higher imo
@@handsomesquidward5160 No he wouldn't he got hurt by a helicopter crashing into him and visibly felt bullets how would he be higher?
We all know that Stan Lee is the most powerful being in the MCU
Absolutely. Man is probably multiverse level
@@stevie_blunder344 nah, stan lee is omniversal level. He powerful and endless in his omniverse
TOAA in disguise.
This is a very good video. For pre-Phase 4 I agree with pretty much every placement. Will you be doing an updated tier list? And if so, when will it be released?
I’m working on the phase 4 update now. It should be out in the next few weeks hopefully
@@weeaboo-warrior
I look forward to it!
Human Tier: 0:50
Super Human Tier: 3:42
Super Soldier Tier: 8:03
Low Super Hero Tier: 13:57
Mid Super Hero Tier: 18:44
High Super Hero Tier: 22:42
Team Buster Tier: 26:15
ASGARD'S DOOM!: 29:10
Planetary Tier: 29:56
Universal Tier: 31:56
Link for template: tiermaker.com/create/mcu-character-strength-power-tier-list-253756
I was actually thinking about making this while I was watching the video but it seems you’ve ninja’ed me. Befitting of a weaboo such as yourself.
I CANT FIND THIS ANYWHERE WHERE IS IT IN TIERMAKER
@@kycoke1695 tiermaker.com/create/mcu-character-strength-power-tier-list-253756
@@weeaboo-warrior wow thank you 🙏
People really underestimate the Guardians.
Star-Lord is the son of Ego the Living Planet. He's a half celestials. I guarantee he didn't lose his powers, he'll see that he still has it in GOTG 3. He's literally a god. He should be team buster as his powers are insane.
Gamora is the deadliest woman in the universe, daughter of Thanos, she should be in low super hero.
Drax can easily whoop Bucky, Captain America, Red Skull, Vulture, yet there above. He is a super soldier level.
Groot has beaten Hulk before, can lift more than a 100 tons, can use denrdokenesis, in a forest he is literally invincible. He is a mid super hero level.
Rocket is super human but I still love him ♥️
P.S.
Ultron is much stronger than what you ranked him. Took a lot of Avengers to finally take him down and Odin should be on Planetary level also.
you can`t forget, that
1. it`s based only on feats, and what we actually know (we don`t ´know, if peter still has celestial powers)
2. its only based on mcu, not comics, so groot (technically) might not be that strong, or at least we dont know yet
Yeah I believe that Peter didn’t lose his powers they just became dormant when his dad died and will stay dormant until idk he learns to awaken them again and control them
@@nataliawashington872 exactly. That was too great a power to just lose like that. They had to make it seem like he lost in cause he would've been too OP in Infinity War and would've made all the strong heros look weak as hell. I'm sure he'll find out he still has them in the next movie
MCU Drax beating captain america hmmm that's debatable
@@lilchoco1684 not at all. Captain America can't keep up with any type of space fighter
Honestly, I don't think Hela would have that much of a problem with Captain Marvel or baseline Thanos. The problem with rating someone like the Scarlet Witch is that she is capable of incredible feats yet someone getting the jump on her with a brick in their hand could brain her and be done with it...typical glass cannon issues, about as powerful a cannon as you can get but still made of glass. Still, nice video and I love your commentary. You make it very interesting.
Another Great tier list, I would like to suggest a Beyblade G revolution characters tier list based on their strength.
Bully Maguire is beyond universal tier. He did not even need the infinity stones to snap Thanos out of existence 😂
OG 2012 Avengers at their strongest Ranking:
1. Iron Man (with all 6 Infinity Stones)
2. Thor (God of Thunder; with Stormbreaker)
3. Hulk (Colosseum Arena)
4. Captain America (Worthy; with Mjolnir and Vibranium Shield)
5. Hawkeye
6. Black Widow
I think Groot should've been one tier higher because he was able to hold and helped forge Stormbreaker
but he barley held it up, he wont be able to use it....
@@Loveridgee you try holding a scorching hot metal for longer than half a second
@@StormagedonBOD It's because Groot can regenerate easily
Adult groot could be higher, that tree can split people into half. We will see adult groot back in Vol 3
Pretty fair. You are the first person to rank Doctor Strange properly. And also changed some of my opinions with your arguments which is something no one has ever done so bravo. But of course not everyone is going to agree with everything so here is what I think. Odin should be above Surtur. Korg should be higher into the second tier. And Thor should be in team busters with Hela or even above her.
You didn't mention that Captain Marvel literally destroyed Thanos' ship with 1 hit, that was pretty impressive
Fr
Celestials are able to control the stones in a better way,
you've seen how universal scale attacks affected thanos' body despite being extremely durable and yet this celestial did a planetary one and walk away without a single scratch on him/her.
that was one stone
Wanda is on planetary after Wandavision, as Agatha said "it's your destiny to destroy the world"
yup and she'll be universal soon
Yes but this list is everything spiderman 2 and before. he said phase 3 and below, wandavision is phase 4
Cool tier list although I reckon it needs to be updated. Wong will need to be higher as shown when he defeats abomination. Wanda will also have to be higher possibly a potential universe buster when she shows more feats. Either way im interested in where shang chi and the mandarin rank onto the list (possibly around mountain level with the ten rings?)
Great list a fee placements i would disagree with such as thor docter strange spiderman and a few others besides that great list
I don’t care what anyway says Black Widow has too many feats to be this low
Maybe a little higher but I doubt it. I think that most if not all the people above her would beat her in a fight
yes
Very good list but I'd argue thor should be at the bottom of team busters and if odin was placed he would be placed at the bottom of planetary as he beat a fully powered surtur and I personally believe thanos waited until he was dead as he was afraid of him also I believe he could have killed hela he just didn't want to because she's his daughter so he just banished her
I was thinking of putting Thor there but he just got his ass kicked by Thanos so badly I didn’t feel it would be right to have him in the same tier. He seemed closer to worthy Captain American. And I mentioned Odin in the Asgard doom tier.
Yeah I think as endgame thor was supposed to be stronger the infinity war thor and he was stronger then in ragnorok I feel endgame thor would be closer to hela level still just under but I feel he would be at the bottom of team busters and yeah odin would be atleast on par with surtur maybe the bottom of planetary for me 👍
Subbed BTW man 👍
@@thomasoldfield8469 yeah that’s reasonable
@@thomasoldfield8469 endgame thor was weak as hell. Infinity war thor is stronger
Thanks for all of the work on the list!
Great video! Mostly agree although I think you’re putting captain marvel too high. When she first fights Thanos in endgame he slaps her around with ease. It seems to me that she was absorbing power from the gauntlet and that she was only able to tank a hit from him when powered up. Though to be fair that’s just how I interpreted that scene.
If she could only overpower Thanos due to taking power from the gauntlet I would agree with you, but I don't think there is actually proof that's the case.
@@weeaboo-warrior you’re probably right
@@weeaboo-warrior do you wanna debate on IG later? I don't use discord
The way she destroyed that ship tho. She is unbelievably powerful.
Without her doing that they for sure
would have lost
I disagree with Thor's position. Yes in infinity war, he could easily have killed thanos. But in endgame when thor was stronger, I would argue that the reason he didn't fair too well against thanos is coz he was unfit. If you had brought thors body from infinity war combined with his current increase of strength, I have no doubts he could have easily shown impressive power against thanos
Shit scaling to be honest. Saying a present version of a character being weaker than their past self doesn't make any sense. If people are going to rank the strongest characters, can they actually go do research on debates and look into a scene more closely to figure out why that character didn't do so well against another character?
Thor in endgame is weaker than infinity war thor btw
@@TheDarkMagic000 No lo es, y no es tan dificil aceptar que Thanos siempre fue el más fuerte incluso sin Gemas, Thor y Hulk se la chupan.
@@TheDarkMagic000 no need not, the director of endgame stated that Thor was stronger than he’s ever been.
@@martom_x9977 yea he was stronger but let’s be real did Thor show any feat to prove he was stronger than his infinity war counterpart?😂bro got nerfed badly lol
Odin scales above Surtur and with the bi frost and the Odin Force likely around Dormammu and Thanos
Great list!
@@daegon1985 thank you!
Infinity War Thor is stronger than Endgame. Also Doctor Strange and Ancient one beats captain marvel.
The directors said Endgame Thor was stronger, so I would take their word over yours. I used to think IW Thor was a bit stronger as well, but there is nothing proving EG Thor isn't stronger, so I have to go with what the directors said. And Dr Strange and Ancient one have a chance of beating Captain Marvel, but Captain Marvel is faster and more powerful.
@@weeaboo-warrior it’s not whether or not he was stronger, it’s his fighting style that really took a hit in endgame. In EG, all Thor wanted to do was wack thanos with his hammer. If he was smarter (probably not as drunk) and more agile (not as fat), he would easily outmaneuver and use lighting to pretty definitively win against Thanos
@@broderickwong7413 let’s make u the director. Clearly know more than them..... stoooped
@@weeaboo-warrior captain marvel can only use her speed for traveling and power won’t help her when dr. Strange sends her into the mirrordimention
@@oscarengebretsen2350 She can’t go at light speed in combat, but she is still faster than Strange, so he would have a hard time leaving her in the mirror dimension and getting out himself.
Thats so inacurrate....Captain Marvel got her ass kicked after thanos used the power stone....And thor was able to counter the full 6 stones...even tho thanos didnt expect that, The stones have the same amount of power everytime...they dont get weaker and you cant control how powerful the attack can be so my point still.
PLUS Captain Marvel has the power of the Space Stone and Kevin Feige said that Stormbreaker was created to be more powerful against the stones especially. One hit from stormbreaker and He can easily cut through her.
damn nigga you’re just upset because it’s captain marvel 😂
@@dd_doesit but he’s right tho
@@dd_doesit are you black? If not please don't use the N word
top 5 heroes would be
1. scarlet witch
2.Dr strange (best showing against thanos forcing him to use the stones he had and dr strange was able to counter some of the stones with his own magic)
3. captain karen
4. Thor
5. Worthy Captain
3 and 4 can be interchangeable
“ are you black”
What does that matter?
"Ultron beat up thor pretty badly" even though thor is joking with vision and acts very casual the entire time.
Thor jokes all the time, that doesn't change the fact hew as getting beat up. I agree Thor in a different scenario could have done much better though.
@@weeaboo-warrior "Thor jokes all the time" yeah like hes joking when fighting thanos, malekith or loki. Hes taking those fights serious but not ultron.
Also that fight lasted like 15 seconds and thor just wanted vision to use the hammer. In a longer fight thor would have smashed ultron.
@@Itsmyface He has a lot more emotional investment in all those fights. Ultron to him was a dangerous villain.
@@jacobnorris8256 eh not really. If you are not taking someone serious, you dont think they are dangerous.
Ultron didnt really even hurt him, thor was just fine after that "fight" (more like having fun with vision). And did go on to tank the explosion caused by sokovia, actually was in the middle of that. And was just fine.
@@Itsmyface Thor wasn't really joking, he was distracting. And he wanted Vision to use the hammer to help him, not because he just wanted to see him use it. It's possible Thor could have won in a longer fight, but there isn't really any proof. I actually had Thor above Ultron for a while when I was making the list, but decided to switch them since the only time they ever fought Ultron was winning.
great list
Thanks
Thor over powered every single infinity stone. The disrespect is crazy, I don’t care is thanos was “caught off guard”. He still had time to use all of the stones and meet stormbreaker before it was even halfway to him
Also you said that Odin could be in surturs tier. But didn’t Odin say Thor was stronger than him?
@@notdababy8875 Odin is in top of the Planetary level, also when he was saying " you are powerful than me " he didn't mean Physically, He meant both pyschologically and mentally. Odin always thought he is bad father, He banished his daughter and almost was banishing his own son too.
in fact, Odin is Powerful Skyfather + Powerful Asgardian + has odinforce
While Thor is only powerful Asgardian with little amount of odinforce in himself.
So Odin is always powerful than Thor, only version of Thor which is powerful than Odin is Rune King, but I don't think we will see him in MCU
That was storm breaker, a weapon made to resist the infinity stones and kill gods, not their himself
The directors themselves said how Thor overcame all the Infinity Stones. You can't just say that you don't care and call it disrespect : \
@@chris_ss2 stop your bullshitting the rusos both said that thanos was caught of guard so he didn’t use the full power of the gauntlet and storm breaker can nullify the gauntlets power because its make of the same metal and by the same guy dont believe me? Just search for the video where they say it
I still think that Captain Marvel, Ancient One, and Doctor Strange could defeat Thanos (no stones) and Hela, maybe Doctor Strange should be the strongest in High Super Hero.
And i don't see Valkery above Captain America or Black Panther, at least not without her flying horse
valkery is an elite asgardian soldier. Any asgardian soldier would defeat cap, they are imune to bullets for example. remember that loki defeated cap as well
Captain Marvel isn’t stronger than Thanos she only outpowered him when she absorbed the power the Stones. Valkery can lift about 75 tons but Panther can only 2 tons.
@@db-tuncturan4983 Lifting Streight isn't the same as striking streight. Also Black Panther without his suit defeat Bucky mindcontrolled and literally oneshoted Cull Obsidian; i don't see Valkyrie surviving that, maybe that wouldn't kill her but at least KO her.
@@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang valkery is an elite asgardian fighter too u can see that when she fought loki
oh yeah for sure they beat thanos without his stones he wont get close to them because of their sorcery
thor wasn't able to rip through the infinity stone power because he didn't know it was coming it was because the axe was made out of a metal that allowed thor to manipulate and control energy it was specifically designed to do so because of his powers being able to summon Asgardian lightning
the metal is uru the same thing thanos’s sword is made of stormbreaker is only strong because thor holds it lmao
@@jeffscurrdale1283 I'm well aware but thors newest hammer the one with the axe head was specifically designed to manipulate energy and use it against people which is why his power flows so purely from it in the newer movies
@@jeffscurrdale1283 thanos sword was not uru I thought it was too but it’s just some type advanced space metal
Whenever I see this type of video I imagine you doing it with DC's live action, will there ever be one?
Yes, I'm planning on it.
You know they nerfed Hulk big-time compared to what he is really capable of as shown in the actual comics. World Breaker Hulk beat all the avengers single-handedly.
man i wish more people knew this
@@prettyboideno6275 But I guess it would have been unfair if they made him the way he really is in the comics! LOL
@@mrjamfy6862 you know every single avenger other than captain marvel is underpowered in the mcu, but yeah hulk should be much stronger than someone like captain marvel, in the comics hulk was able to tank captain marvel punches so long that she got tired and then just oneshotted him. I think hulk ahould be easily among scarlet witch doc strange and thor in power if mcu would be kinda the same as in the comics.
@@tuuresopanen3539 Hulk is weaker than Scarlett and Dr strange and even thor when he is in his base forms like them
@@sylver1146 yeah i know but in the mcu he should be the fourth strongest easily.
Hot take:Hulk more powerful than iron man well at least if hulk gets angry enough
Who else thinks it sucks that hulk is pretty much weak or average at this point
Me
What I learned from this..
Is talking like this..
Is awesome 👌
Y’all sleeping on my man Hulk
Too many people underestimate the strength of Spider-Man
Not really
this list is horrible, having people like winter soldier, quill, and gamora over spider man makes no sense
Frfr
If you think this list is bad to check out screen rants list of the most powerful villains
Gamora is easily better than Peter, but i agree with the other ones
@@deathlord_ I don’t even want to attempt watching it
Quill beat Spider-Man on screen. Captain America beat Spider-Man on screen and Winter Soldier is almost equal with him. Gamora is just straight up stronger than Spider-Man and has a weapon meant for killing Asgardians.
6:00 “who fought a bit against captain marvel” proceeds to get kicked into the shadow realm
Thor was kicking Hulk's ass both times.
In the first one Hulk actually kicked Thor’s ass Thor kicked Hulks ass in the Ragnarok fight
@@monke3180 hard to say
Hulk was shown winning at the end of their fight in Avengers, and in Ragnarok he was winning until Thor unlocked his thunder god powers, and that version of Thor is one tier above Hulk.
@@weeaboo-warrior Thor wasn’t awaken in the first avengers, which is why they fought evenly for most of the match
@@Frozo-nt2ky Exactly. Awakened Thor is in a separate spot one tier higher. There are two Thors on my tier list.
Apart from Wanda, hela is one of the only characters who can defeat anyone in a 1v1, even thanos. Surtur and dormammu r stronger than thanos
Many characters can defeat Thanos 1v1 if Thanos doesn't use the IG.
Strange, Captain Marvel, Thor, Scarlet Witch, Ironman, the ancient one, hela, ebony maw, and many more can all defeat Thanos if he doesn't have the infinity gauntlet.
The only protagonist characters in the mcu that could solo defeat IG Thanos are
Strange (with time stone), ancient one (with time stone)
That's why the plot didn't allow strange to use it. Strange could have done was he did to Dormamu but the movie was about the avengers not another Doctor Strange movie
@@harrolddjani iron man and ebony maw can beat thanos
@@pmkallgren7648 wanda can squash thanos like a bug
@@pmkallgren7648 iron man got his ass beat twice by thanos and the second time he had the strongest suit he ever had and lost to him even with thor a caps help
@@harrolddjani Iron Man got obliterated in Endgame by Thanos.
The reason Doc didn't pull a Dormammu on Thanos is because Thanos isn't beyond time, so Thanos would never realize he was in a time loop.
Thanos would slaughter any character on this list with the full gauntlet, other than Dormammu.
Thor > captain marvel. Thor’s axe was stronger than then a blast from all of the infinity stones so I would go through captain marvel and even after that Thor would definitely be able to tank all of her shots
Only thing she has over him is speed
finally someone with a brain
I don't see it. Captain Marvel and Thor both fought Thanos 1v1 within the same period of time. Thanos absolutely wiped the floor with Thor three times, once before Stormbreaker and twice after. Captain Marvel was able to tank a hit from Thanos without flinching and was physically overpowering him in all but one occasion before he used a barehanded Power stone blast.
It's a pretty direct comparison and Captain Marvel comes out on top no matter how you look at it.
@@d3nyd except in the fat Thor vs Thanos fight, Thor was incredible mentally deteriated, he basically drunk himself into a hole to try and forget the events of IW, as seen as early on in the movie when hulk so much as mentioned thanos's name. IW Thor is stronger than endgame Thor solely because he's actaully right in the head. Your not gonna be able to perform at your best when you're physically or mentally in pieces. Thor also withstood the concentrated energy of a star which puts him at star level durability. So there aren't many characters who can actaully harm Thor outside of planatary level biengs. Even though Thor got the drop on thanos in IW, CM also got the drop on thanos in her confrontation with him in EG. So it's up to you whether or not you rank Thor in IW higher than CM for these reasons but that's the way I see it :)
This tier list will definitely need a video update after “Doctor Strange and the multiverse of madness”, or maybe after “Thor Love and Thunder”, so much has happed (power scaling wise) in the MCU since this video was made. We don’t even know how powerful Kang can be or even the celestials powers are Planetary or higher in this tier list.
I actually think that since this video was made, the MCU had the most change in terms of story and power from some characters.
Example: Loki is probably much more powerful with his magic and in hand to hand combat after the Loki series, just look at his older variant and how powerful his illusion magic can be.
2 Example: Wanda has learned about her true powers, she is much more powerful and after reading the DarkHold Holly shit, will see how much more powerful she is in D S multiverse of madness.
And we’ve seen how powerful Doctor Strange can be in the What if series, I can even argue that variant of Doctor Strange can give Thanos with all the stones a Run for his money or even beat him and definitely beat Dormammu with mid to high diff, I mean, thinking about it, I’m sure he is even more powerful than any celestial, he has multiversal scaling powers, enough to stop a whole universe from destructing itself (creating a pocket dimension) without the help of any outside source or infinity stone, after he was even the one who caused it , he fucking changed an absolute point in time having just the time stone, I think not even Thanos with all the stones Can do that.
That’s why I would love to see a video update after D S multiverse of madness or after Thor Love and Thunder, since those movies I think will really show how powerful Doctor Strange, Wanda and Thor can really be (since I think they will be the most powerful characters from the “heroes” side up till those movies). At least in the MCU
He has a What If... tier list, he won't use What If characters in his updated version anyway such as Supreme Strange or Infinity Ultron.
@@theheiken5684 What I was trying to say is, after the new movies, power wise, it’s going to be so different in the MCU that he will need to do another MCU tier list.