This whole generation has been one blunder after another. Microsoft and Sony are so clueless and directionless. Can we please go back to the 360/PS3 era?
With you all the way on that one, consoles and games were great, nowadays games are just like interactive movies with fancy lifelike graphics, AND games were games back then plus NO pointless cash grabbing microtransactions
We cant, cause all of the older game from that era prices imploded on Ebay making them million dollars collectors item. If you play them, they damage, if you touch them, they damage, also lets not to mention the disc rot and cartidge rot.
@metalnuck3181 your rite the classics are better new systems have gotten worse the ps5 is shit..I don't mind the new xbox it's OK.. I have the one s and I only paid 200 bucks.plus TX.back 5 yrs ago and iam satisfied. And I have a ps3 and 2 and 4. There better then ps5 lol 😂😂😅😅
I’m a lifetime PlayStation player but I can happily admit Sony has lost touch with their consumer base. They were on top of the industry for close to 10 years I’d argue but recently they’ve been faltering. This generation has been an absolute disappointment. This Pro release is a half measure upgrade that costs the same as what I’d imagine the PS6 to cost. Idk wtf they’re thinking but no one is paying that price for essentially the same machine with no idea of the future line up of games. That’s another huge problem with this console and Sony’s entire business model this generation. Us the consumers have no idea what we even bought the PS5 for. There is no word at all on what is being worked on by Sony’s in house studios. Nothing to look forward to and say “this is why I have or am buying a PS5.” It’s absolutely ridiculous and their pursuit of a live service juggernaut like Fortnite is just about the dumbest shit they could try to do this generation and now they’re paying for it. Good thing I’m able to go back and enjoy older games because besides remakes there’s nothing much that excites me this generation.
I hear you. I feel like I could’ve just kept my PS4 slim and been perfectly content right now. Got a launch PS5 and all I’ve played on it is cross gen PS4 games and maybe TLOU remake as the only exclusive. Waiting on the physical release of Alan Wake 2 and the MGS3 remake but honestly I’m just not enthusiastic about gaming as I was maybe 10 years ago. The industry has just become stale and expensive. Everyone chasing the easy live service money. I’m not even that exited about GTA 6 because I know that’s going to be all about the online and the single player will be a secondary thought.
Beautifully written, well said, agree with all of this. The PS5 Pro is twice the cost of the PS4 Pro, to put it into perspective, and the PS4 Pro had a disc drive. The games didn't usually look much better on the previous gen Pro either but it would get you 4K display output on a 4K TV at least. Back then we moaned about the lack of a 4K Blu-ray drive but it was easier to overlook when it launched at the same price as the original PS4, and the original PS4 then received a price cut. The PS3 Slim launched at a much lower price than the original so it was even better value. Both the PS3 and PS4 at this point in their lives had so many great games too, not just rereleases. It just feels like Sony seeing what they can get away with. They ask more and more for less and less. This is a barren, nothing generation. Not even one new game to launch alongside the PS5 Pro, the Cerny video literally showed Demon's Souls again, the launch title for the original PS5 which is itself a remake of a PS3 era game. I think that sums it up - prices increase, fewer and fewer games. Including PS Plus, and the free monthly games seem to be cheaper and cheaper ones even though that too has had a price rise. They don't care as long as people keep paying up.
I think in Canada it rough;y the same price as Australia. We pay $799 for disc and $699 for digital ps5 slim. Now they are asking $1200 Au$ for aPs5 Pro with no disc drive. Sorry Sony we all wernt born yesterday , they have let down all the loyal Sony fans
All modern consoles are a scam having to pay to use your own internet to then host games for their customers on your internet for these companies after paying them to do so is a fucking scam, I'd love to own a console again but I refuse to be taken advantage of. STOP SUPPORTING THIS SHIT. Peer to Peer DOES NOT require a central Data mining server that sells your info.
Yeah I did this a year ago, CECHA00 Japanese full BC PS3 bundle with games and things for £180. Cleaned and repasted it myself. Runs great. Way better value than a PS5 as it has such a strong library.
All modern consoles are a scam having to pay to use your own internet to then host games for their customers on your internet for these companies after paying them to do so is a fucking scam, I'd love to own a console again but I refuse to be taken advantage of. STOP SUPPORTING THIS SHIT. Peer to Peer DOES NOT require a central Data mining server that sells your info.
Yeah it's funny because earlier into the current console gen people were deriding Microsoft for leaning too much on backwards compatibility. Now that's what Sony are doing too. Most of what's good on the PS5 is the entire PS4 library, running slightly better. That shows off how strong the PS4 was, and how weak the PS5 is because it doesn't have a library of it's own, really.
Too true and what's really sad is people who earnestly point out Sony's insanity even on just the comments section for this video are often given "get used to it brah, stop whining" from younger idiot gamers who are apparently not only okay with what Sony are doing, but will actually attack other people on their behalf as well. The rot really has set in with gaming, and this was the generation to do it.
Playstation needs to move the HQ back to Tokyo, where the rest of Sony is. Nissan did this same sillyness with their Infiniti unit moving to Hong Kong, before backtracking and going back to Yokohama. All the weird decisions at Playstation begun when they moved the HQ in 2016 to Foster City.
@spacemarine8289 you rite ps5 is.shitty people.dont know the evolution of gaming.. I rather pay 200 like I.did for my xbox 1 s and pay.379 like I.did for the ps4 and 3 then paying.600 plus that's retarded. And the controllers are 100 bucks each that bullshit!! Big rip off..controllers and games.where way more affordable back in the days
@@HULKHOGAN1 Since you don't seem to understand the basics I'm going to explain, the guy said he was going to boycott Sony by playing another console that SONY made, makes absolutely no sense at all, so he is boycotting Sony by playing another Sony console.....right.....do you understand now?
The problem is that companies tell they know what players want. But the opposite is the case. Cerny himself said that 3/4 of the players play in performance mode. That's because players care more about performance than graphics. The industry needs to stop focusing on graphics and concentrate more on the actual game. Look at Astro Bot. Game of the Year! It's all about the art style and performance. Astro Bot is beautiful and runs smoothly, but not because it has ultra-realistic graphics with thousands of details, but because it has an art style that looks good and still lets the game run smoothly on existing hardware. Nobody needs a PS5 Pro. The industry needs to wake up and focus more on creativity, ingenuity and enthusiasm instead of looks. 4K and RT are nice but they're just gimmicks to sell hardware. In the end, these features don't make a game better.
It is extremely hilarious seeing people defending the release of this, like when asked what’s the difference between the base PS5 and this, they don’t have anything. *”But it plays at 4K”* Yeah, they’ve been promising this since the PS4 pro… what else? *”No more loading screens”* Are you really that impatient?
Never will recoup what they lost... Their (R.O.I. , return on investment), is only 1 part of their failure, the bigger problem was attacking their loyal customers that complain about most issues, yet alone WOKE in games. When you not only go against the grain of what your majority audience likes, but then reply to those whom took the time to give constructive criticism about the product, is not a good business philosophy. Then people that support your industry, keeps their money and you lose said business. Keep the boycott of the new way of gaming: 1. Promote a game 12 months prior to launch 2. Release game that is not completed game, ( Seasonal downloads, with upgrades needed without top tier bundle release paid prior to release date). 3. Release game early for a fee. 4. Make micro transactions, not just skins but UPGRADES, that only the top whales can afford to stay relevant. 5. Then release DLC maps for a fee, for either OLD REMASTERED maps, or several recycled dead maps that are morphed together to create profit. Until you stop opening your wallet, you will keep getting this garbage. Especially now that SONY has very limited competition for top tier games.
Thats what i thought , i was lookimg for to concorde from the trailers and yet that was another disaster for sony. The saving grace has been Astro Bot release, but that doesnt make up for the disaster of concorde or the Ps5 Pro annoucement
@@Gaming-Enthusiast Astro Bot is actually pretty good but yeah, as you said it doesn't make up for this disaster and neither does the failure that was Concord.
RETRO is the way to go, THE GAMES WERE WAY BETTER, THE SYSTEMS WERE EASIER TO PLAY GAMES, AND EVER SINCE DISCORD, YOU CAN PLAY ALMOST ANY ONLINE GAME IF IT HAS A BIG ENOUGH FOLLOWING. GO OLD SCHOOL AND BE HAPPY AGAIN.
Some of us already have physical ps5 games and they are making this hard push towards digital only. Not including a disc drive is insulting. And there are people who live in places where the internet is bad. We rely on physical games and blu rays instead of streaming. So they just isolated a huge portion of their audience.
@@proggz39 I was going to. Even though I live in the middle of nowhere, I still like technology. But streaming and downloading large games is not an option here. And there are plenty more like me. Besides, everyone should be standing up to actually own their games. Once they pull the servers or lose the license, your game is gone. So if not having a disc drive in exchange for faster framerate makes you "pro", the only thing you are is a professional idiot.
Atleast i get to transfer and syncronizing my Genshin Impact data from windows 7 pc to Ps5 so i dont have to worry about loosing all of my file or my pc stop working in the future.
I had the base PS4 so I"m treating my ps5 as a ps4 pro pro, which is working out well though it was quite expensive (especially where I live outside US). I'm really enjoying astro bot right now, probably the best game I played in years. and I loved the new ratchet & clank as well. Spiderman 2 was ok, fun but disappointing. So overall it was an ok purchase for me. I would be disappointed if GTA6 will not run well on the base PS5 because they're trying to push this pro system, while we didn't get almost any games for the base PS5.
@@danielthe1st GTA 6 can run well on the base ps5 unless sony just want to deliberately force people to get the pro and people shouldn't allow that. The GTA 6 hype is becoming too much as if it's going to explode a console 😂 You all might be surprise it won't live up to the hype after launch. So chill. Ps5 pro is pointless.
@@josefelfinito6925 There are so many carriages on the GTA VI hype train that it already can't live up to expectations. It's being pegged as the saviour of this generation because it's been so bad (and Rockstar have been milking GTA V for 11 years now), but my gut feeling says it's still not going to have as good a story as _Red Dead Redemption II_ which discussed a lot of mature themes, and mostly did it well. Can't see it measuring up to the levels of _GTA IV_ story either.
This is silly. I don't even have a ps5 yet. Still, I'd rather just buy the physical disc base version instead. Actually I'm better off just staying on the ps4 until the ps6 comes out.
The inflation argument is stupid. The more important thing is that wages haven't kept up with inflation so most people's purchasing power is less. With that in mind, the PS5 Pro is actually less affordable than the $599 PS3.
Wouldn't it be ironic if there was a PS5 Pro enhanced version of Silent Hill 2. That way, you could spend close to a grand in order to play an enhanced edition of a remake of a PS2 game. Something expensively poetic about that notion.
Ps5 Pro was a disaster at annoucement, we got promised this amazing machine , now we have a upgrade to 2tb internal storage and the big 3 as sony call them. To top it off no disc drive its a extra with a inflated price of the pro. For something that had little to no real improvment over the PS5 i already have. All this did was give the scalpers the opportunity to buy up every ps5 disc drive and stand to resell at lauch of the Ps5 pro to make a killing. I as a content creator will not be supporting this inflated price hike of the Ps5 pro that falls short of what we have been prominsed over the 1st leak of this catastrophe of a console.
The big 3: - no disc drive - no backwards compatibility - overpriced For the ridiculous price you would at least expect the better dualsense edge controller and a new more visually appealing design. Not to mention, no new games were shown with it.
You broke. Why are all you complaining? What did you expect. In 2020 the ps5 was 500$ and a 2 tb Ssd back then was 400$ and 300$ on sale. So 800 back then. Ps5 is still 500. So your paying 100$ extra for the 2tb ssd and 100$ extra for more power. Besides the disk drive whats the problem. If they released at 599 with a 1tb drive you would all complain about that.
Sony sold us fidelity mode and performance mode with the PS4 Pro and now the PS5 Pro is going to fix this. They have created the problem and now they’re selling us the solution, it’s genius really 😅
Watching gaming as a whole fall from grace is really sucking lately. This generation is hot garbage. I play my PS5 so seldomly now and my PS3 became my main again. Thankfully I don't jump on everything with online multiplayer so its an easy transition
Yeah this sucks, I’m willing to buy a pro as a very casual gamer and I literally don’t have any safe room to have the ps5 horizontal. Plus I have all physical games. I guarantee both the drive and stand are going to stay sold out because of scalpers
It was great growing up with the ps 2 and xbox the excitement going into the next gen was great. the actual new technology that was being put into game console was amazing an made you really excited. You really had to have been there. Now we really came a long way in computer graphics that its not as existing. Game consoles need to focus on exciting games now.
When Xbone screwed up their launch Sony smartly pointed out it wasn't all the bad things Microsoft was doing. And the PlayStation brand got a boost. Now it's acting like Microsoft did. I still have no compelling reason to buy a PS5. Let alone a PS5 pro. What does the pro even mean. Am I expected to earn money of it?
The fanboys are saying how this will be the console to get to play GTA6…🙄 Now imagine buying this console this late into the generation, GTA6 has about 2 years, maybe 1.5 at the least, before even coming out, then when GTA6 comes out and you have the Pro you spent almost 1000.00 on to have..that year PS6 is announced. What a total shit show this generation is. 🤦🏻♂️
😃🙌Throw it in the dumpster 🙌😃 I remember a time when we only had 1 console no pro anything just pro gaming skills.They come up with some really bizarre names now for consoles crazy.
ha! still got my Ps4 Pro with an SSD installed & new thermal paste! Might be the last console i buy at this rate! Stick with PC from now on. £840 for the Ps5Pro in UK (if you want the stand & Drive) is insane.
I have a backlog of 37 game i really want to play on ps3/ps4... thatll keep me busy for the next 5-10 years. I also have a list of about 25 games i would love to replay in the near future... why would i get a ps5. They havent given me a single good reason.
Even the ps5 pro suffers from stuttering from the looks of things. At this price point you might as well get a pc. On the console front, the switch 2 has a wide open goal here, assuming it is powerful enough to be good enough to enjoy for most people (and much more affordable). Nintendo even now, so close to the switch 2 announcement, are still knocking out game after game for what is a previous gen console. Where as the other two have expensive powerful consoles on offer but no games to play on them. Id even rate the current switch above the series x or ps5 frankly from a simple fun factor.
It's probably good for emulation at least once it's hacked and reworked but for that price no thanks I remember when the PS3 came out had so many different models and prices were nutty then.
I wonder if I need a different stand to place a PS5 Pro horizontally, for my PS5 with a disc drive needs a stand to place it horizontally due to the weird shape of my PS5.
The price of the PS5 Pro is excessive but so is the price of GPU's for PC gaming. You would be hard pushed to spec a gaming PC to the specs of a PS5 Pro for the same money. By the time you add a CPU, MB, PSU, GPU, Nvme SSD, Ram, Case and a controller you are already above $700 for new components. Second hand parts will be closer to the PS5 Pro but with no warranty. I suppose with a PC you can always upgrade later on and the PS5 Pro cannot but that is the price of console gaming. Americans should think themselves lucky as here in the UK it will cost us the equivalent of $920 USD! I will be passing on the PS5 Pro for now as i am happy enough with the PS5 Slim i already have. I don't need to have super duper graphics to enjoy the games i own and tbh i play on my older consoles (PS2,PS3, Sega Dreamcast, ect) more than the PS5. It is not all about the graphics for me, i am more interested in how a game plays and feels than how it looks nowadays.
i think, they watched apple event, and saw them doing the same, now that xbox and nintendo are not a threat, who is gonna humble them? the "pc master race"? doubt it since they make money with them too. at the end the consumer talked, and the whealty ones can afford the pro. the rest of us, the poor, guess we have to deal witb 720p 30fps normal ps5 new game tittles.
In my opinion I don’t own a ps5 and I haven’t at all since its been released so I think it’ll be a grab for me knowing that I personally don’t use disc for games or movies and etc that’s just how I adapted into consoles for a long time. And for ps4 games I just simply use my ps4 to play them, and another thing I would only have to pay around 500 something some change because I’m gonna trade in all my controllers and my switch OLED that I don’t use anymore because it’s kind of boring when I’m on it and Nintendo has been quiet with the Switch 2 launch so I’ll think I’ll just trade it back at GameStop and wait for the Switch 2 to come out to play Nintendo games but that’s besides the fact, for me I’m gonna trade in the Switch OLED and the ps4 and Xbox games controllers that I don’t use cause of stick drift, I would get back 200$+ in store credit so realistically I would only have to spend around 500 and some change for the ps5 pro so that’s why it’s a guaranteed grab for me in my opinion knowing that I don’t don’t own one currently.
I skipped ps3, and ps4, but bought a ps4 pro so I could play dead or alive 6. Likewise, I bought a ps5 (2 years in) so I could play Hogwarts Legacy. I don't yet know if there will be a game I want so bad it compels me to buy the ps5 pro.
Still no games. I only played Red Dead Redemption with 60fps on my ps5 and even that game is a port😂 Red Dead Redemption 2 is still 30fps (thank you Rockstar..) And now I use my PS5 as decoration..
Since as shown by Sony ...the PS5 enhanced version games look "Barely" any better, Console Gamers would be better off saving their money & buying a PS6 Console when it it's released in approx. 2 - 3 years. Maybe Sony & Microsoft will just completely screw themselves eventually since alot of Gamers might just purchase or custom build a PC. At least a PC can do a "Hell of Alot more" than just play games & is easily repaired due to replacement PC Hardware readily available from numerous local Brick & Mortar Stores & On-line sellers.🙂
No it don't make sense this time why the price is so high , without a disc drive and what that cost to buy beside the console and you have to pay for them to pair aswell ?!. Can't compare to the release of PS3 when everything was included AND it was a gen lap from PS2 to PS3, you paid for something you actually got . This time the original PS5 is out there with disc and the slim with disc ....for them to believe that anyone with common sense will buy the Pro that has the difference that you have to pinch your eyes if you gonna notice anything big enough to get people to pay that amount without every " parts" included in the machine is ridiculous....how can they believe people are stupid enough to be " sold " their " talk" of differences in graphics etc , its just a wordsallad to get you to open your wallet. The sales ain't gonna be there for Sony this time , not when they pulled out the drive and a better console allready exist that has it , people will buy the existing PS5:s and are more looking for if games actually are going to come out this gen still .... that its worth buying the console in the first place . The pro is gonna flop bigtime this time.
The only thing I can really say that does make sense for this price is that you can’t build a PC that’s as capable for as a PS5 Pro for $700. You’ll be spending closer to like $1,500+.
Ok dude, no matter the cost, the amount of hours it will be on makes any cost trivial. I didnt get a ps5, I dont want to queue or raffle to get one. So I am ready for a ps5, no matter any cost.
there's nothing special about iPhone. but the reason apple computers are so good (not for gaming) is the user interface and quality of the hardware. so elegant, seamlessly designed and intuitive to use. they also have the best music and video editing software that are industry standard if you do those things professionally. lastly, they are quality machines that are built to last. in my 18 years of owning a computer - I've had only 3 of them. all MacBooks. and I just got the 3rd one last year. unlike some crappy hp or dell laptop that will crap out in 2-3 years.
I'd rather upgrade to the steam deck 2 when that comes out.
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PS5 Pro is a taunt to all players. One thing is to stamp this new console with a ridiculous price, but another thing is to make it just digital?! Are you kidding me?! I am totally wordless. I have had some consoles in my life, currently owning PS3 slim, given by an ex friend, and it is a great console, like good old gaming, which never gets old, coz what is old is golden. If I was to upgrade to a newer version of PS, it'd be PS5, that's for sure, coz I love smooth gaming and there are some great titles out there for PS5, and one can play PS4 titles easily. PS3 compatibility would be nice, or if there are some tricks how to run PS3 games on PS5, besides buying digital versions on PSS. But this move by Sony is the worst joke ever!! It is just like Apple with its newest iPhones, which are made just for the profit. External drive for PS5 Pro is also overpriced. PS5 Pro should be a significant improvement, with a disc drive, to make people to buy it. If not current owners of PS5, then those who have older versions and want something new, with plenty of great features. There are just couple of small improvements compared to PS5, without a disc drive - this has never happened in the videogame industry. Sony, get new meds, the current ones aren't helping you to think properly.
This whole generation has been one blunder after another. Microsoft and Sony are so clueless and directionless. Can we please go back to the 360/PS3 era?
shut up and play shitty games 😂
With you all the way on that one, consoles and games were great, nowadays games are just like interactive movies with fancy lifelike graphics, AND games were games back then plus NO pointless cash grabbing microtransactions
We cant, cause all of the older game from that era prices imploded on Ebay making them million dollars collectors item. If you play them, they damage, if you touch them, they damage, also lets not to mention the disc rot and cartidge rot.
@metalnuck3181 your rite the classics are better new systems have gotten worse the ps5 is shit..I don't mind the new xbox it's OK.. I have the one s and I only paid 200 bucks.plus TX.back 5 yrs ago and iam satisfied. And I have a ps3 and 2 and 4. There better then ps5 lol 😂😂😅😅
What are you going on about?
$960 CAD without a disc drive and a vertical stand is nasty work.
Extortion
"Play has no limits"...maybe not, but my wallet does.
vote with our wallets if nobody buys the pro they have to adjust the price
Only bought it for Genshin.
lol love that comment
@@Berserker-j2t Lol. 🤣🤭 More like "Play has limits".
i think i have enough for it but now i dont think i want to spend it all on a shitty upgrade, ill juat buy a game and keep saving
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm boycotting digital games and premium subscriptions
I’m a lifetime PlayStation player but I can happily admit Sony has lost touch with their consumer base.
They were on top of the industry for close to 10 years I’d argue but recently they’ve been faltering. This generation has been an absolute disappointment.
This Pro release is a half measure upgrade that costs the same as what I’d imagine the PS6 to cost. Idk wtf they’re thinking but no one is paying that price for essentially the same machine with no idea of the future line up of games.
That’s another huge problem with this console and Sony’s entire business model this generation. Us the consumers have no idea what we even bought the PS5 for. There is no word at all on what is being worked on by Sony’s in house studios. Nothing to look forward to and say “this is why I have or am buying a PS5.” It’s absolutely ridiculous and their pursuit of a live service juggernaut like Fortnite is just about the dumbest shit they could try to do this generation and now they’re paying for it.
Good thing I’m able to go back and enjoy older games because besides remakes there’s nothing much that excites me this generation.
About $700 also older game titles cause around millions of dollars sealed compare of buying a used copy that doesnt work anymore.
Bro they will sell out in a hour. This thing will sell like crazy. You just out of touch
I hear you. I feel like I could’ve just kept my PS4 slim and been perfectly content right now. Got a launch PS5 and all I’ve played on it is cross gen PS4 games and maybe TLOU remake as the only exclusive. Waiting on the physical release of Alan Wake 2 and the MGS3 remake but honestly I’m just not enthusiastic about gaming as I was maybe 10 years ago. The industry has just become stale and expensive. Everyone chasing the easy live service money. I’m not even that exited about GTA 6 because I know that’s going to be all about the online and the single player will be a secondary thought.
@Neo_Rain146 nah man I love my ps5. Never got the ps4 pro so I'm very happy with it as I eventually bought a OLED
Beautifully written, well said, agree with all of this.
The PS5 Pro is twice the cost of the PS4 Pro, to put it into perspective, and the PS4 Pro had a disc drive. The games didn't usually look much better on the previous gen Pro either but it would get you 4K display output on a 4K TV at least. Back then we moaned about the lack of a 4K Blu-ray drive but it was easier to overlook when it launched at the same price as the original PS4, and the original PS4 then received a price cut. The PS3 Slim launched at a much lower price than the original so it was even better value. Both the PS3 and PS4 at this point in their lives had so many great games too, not just rereleases.
It just feels like Sony seeing what they can get away with. They ask more and more for less and less. This is a barren, nothing generation. Not even one new game to launch alongside the PS5 Pro, the Cerny video literally showed Demon's Souls again, the launch title for the original PS5 which is itself a remake of a PS3 era game. I think that sums it up - prices increase, fewer and fewer games. Including PS Plus, and the free monthly games seem to be cheaper and cheaper ones even though that too has had a price rise.
They don't care as long as people keep paying up.
It’s a travesty what they done to Canadians …
I think in Canada it rough;y the same price as Australia. We pay $799 for disc and $699 for digital ps5 slim. Now they are asking $1200 Au$ for aPs5 Pro with no disc drive.
Sorry Sony we all wernt born yesterday , they have let down all the loyal Sony fans
All modern consoles are a scam having to pay to use your own internet to then host games for their customers on your internet for these companies after paying them to do so is a fucking scam, I'd love to own a console again but I refuse to be taken advantage of.
STOP SUPPORTING THIS SHIT. Peer to Peer DOES NOT require a central Data mining server that sells your info.
@@Gaming-Enthusiastyeah pretty close. Canada has higher sales tax at 13%. Plus if Justin Trudeau stubs his toe there may be a new tax implemented.
A few months ago, I bought a near mint boxed bc PS3 off ebay for only £110. I haven't even turned on my PS5 since. Am enjoying all the old classics.
Loved the Ps3, im still searching for a OG Ps3 to play all my Ps2 games on
same thing with my Xbox 360, revisiting classics that I've never got to play
Yeah I did this a year ago, CECHA00 Japanese full BC PS3 bundle with games and things for £180. Cleaned and repasted it myself. Runs great. Way better value than a PS5 as it has such a strong library.
I totally agree with you. Especially calling it a “pro” with no disc drive. Surely a “pro” should have all the bells and whistles.
Yup, for that price it should include the stand, the disc drive and a DualSense Edge as standard.
I already treat my PS5 as a PS4 pro pro haha. Fuck sony
Ultra Pro
You actually hit the nail on the head. Exactly how I feel. Very few actual PS5 games that next-gen. The majority are "remade" ps4 games.
All modern consoles are a scam having to pay to use your own internet to then host games for their customers on your internet for these companies after paying them to do so is a fucking scam, I'd love to own a console again but I refuse to be taken advantage of.
STOP SUPPORTING THIS SHIT. Peer to Peer DOES NOT require a central Data mining server that sells your info.
@@montanastranger get use to it, that's how gaming will be. Adapt or keep whining
Yeah it's funny because earlier into the current console gen people were deriding Microsoft for leaning too much on backwards compatibility. Now that's what Sony are doing too. Most of what's good on the PS5 is the entire PS4 library, running slightly better. That shows off how strong the PS4 was, and how weak the PS5 is because it doesn't have a library of it's own, really.
Sony: Wow look at that backclash!
Release day: (SOLD OUT)
Too true and what's really sad is people who earnestly point out Sony's insanity even on just the comments section for this video are often given "get used to it brah, stop whining" from younger idiot gamers who are apparently not only okay with what Sony are doing, but will actually attack other people on their behalf as well. The rot really has set in with gaming, and this was the generation to do it.
Playstation needs to move the HQ back to Tokyo, where the rest of Sony is. Nissan did this same sillyness with their Infiniti unit moving to Hong Kong, before backtracking and going back to Yokohama. All the weird decisions at Playstation begun when they moved the HQ in 2016 to Foster City.
So now the original PS5 is choppy. I am so boycotting Sony that I am going back to the PS3.
You know who made the PS3, right
@spacemarine8289 you rite ps5 is.shitty people.dont know the evolution of gaming.. I rather pay 200 like I.did for my xbox 1 s and pay.379 like I.did for the ps4 and 3 then paying.600 plus that's retarded. And the controllers are 100 bucks each that bullshit!! Big rip off..controllers and games.where way more affordable back in the days
Um Sony... What kind of stupid response was that?
😂 . Also, choppy? Meaning
@@HULKHOGAN1 Since you don't seem to understand the basics I'm going to explain, the guy said he was going to boycott Sony by playing another console that SONY made, makes absolutely no sense at all, so he is boycotting Sony by playing another Sony console.....right.....do you understand now?
The problem is that companies tell they know what players want. But the opposite is the case. Cerny himself said that 3/4 of the players play in performance mode. That's because players care more about performance than graphics. The industry needs to stop focusing on graphics and concentrate more on the actual game. Look at Astro Bot. Game of the Year! It's all about the art style and performance. Astro Bot is beautiful and runs smoothly, but not because it has ultra-realistic graphics with thousands of details, but because it has an art style that looks good and still lets the game run smoothly on existing hardware. Nobody needs a PS5 Pro. The industry needs to wake up and focus more on creativity, ingenuity and enthusiasm instead of looks. 4K and RT are nice but they're just gimmicks to sell hardware. In the end, these features don't make a game better.
I better go back to my PS4 Pro with SSD
It is extremely hilarious seeing people defending the release of this, like when asked what’s the difference between the base PS5 and this, they don’t have anything.
*”But it plays at 4K”*
Yeah, they’ve been promising this since the PS4 pro… what else?
*”No more loading screens”*
Are you really that impatient?
true
They are Industry-Sheeps
Impatient? Get the Nintendo 64
@@helloworld6293 ?
Go on PC picker. Complain al you want, you can't build a PC close to that price
They are trying to get back the money they lost with Concord...
… don’t give them the satisfaction…
And they're about to experience another huge flop. At least I hope so.
Never will recoup what they lost... Their (R.O.I. , return on investment), is only 1 part of their failure, the bigger problem was attacking their loyal customers that complain about most issues, yet alone WOKE in games.
When you not only go against the grain of what your majority audience likes, but then reply to those whom took the time to give constructive criticism about the product, is not a good business philosophy.
Then people that support your industry, keeps their money and you lose said business.
Keep the boycott of the new way of gaming:
1. Promote a game 12 months prior to launch
2. Release game that is not completed game, ( Seasonal downloads, with upgrades needed without top tier bundle release paid prior to release date).
3. Release game early for a fee.
4. Make micro transactions, not just skins but UPGRADES, that only the top whales can afford to stay relevant.
5. Then release DLC maps for a fee, for either OLD REMASTERED maps, or several recycled dead maps that are morphed together to create profit.
Until you stop opening your wallet, you will keep getting this garbage. Especially now that SONY has very limited competition for top tier games.
Thats what i thought , i was lookimg for to concorde from the trailers and yet that was another disaster for sony.
The saving grace has been Astro Bot release, but that doesnt make up for the disaster of concorde or the Ps5 Pro annoucement
@@Gaming-Enthusiast Astro Bot is actually pretty good but yeah, as you said it doesn't make up for this disaster and neither does the failure that was Concord.
RETRO is the way to go, THE GAMES WERE WAY BETTER, THE SYSTEMS WERE EASIER TO PLAY GAMES, AND EVER SINCE DISCORD, YOU CAN PLAY ALMOST ANY ONLINE GAME IF IT HAS A BIG ENOUGH FOLLOWING.
GO OLD SCHOOL AND BE HAPPY AGAIN.
Some of us already have physical ps5 games and they are making this hard push towards digital only. Not including a disc drive is insulting. And there are people who live in places where the internet is bad. We rely on physical games and blu rays instead of streaming. So they just isolated a huge portion of their audience.
You really think anyone with a bad internet connection is going out to buy a pro? They aren’t selling it to a huge portion of their audience
@@proggz39 I was going to. Even though I live in the middle of nowhere, I still like technology. But streaming and downloading large games is not an option here. And there are plenty more like me. Besides, everyone should be standing up to actually own their games. Once they pull the servers or lose the license, your game is gone. So if not having a disc drive in exchange for faster framerate makes you "pro", the only thing you are is a professional idiot.
Thank god PS2 Master Race 🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺
I love the ps2 and forever will.
Indeed. Still playing Def Jam Fight for NY, B.Boy the Game, Burnout 3 Takedown and Dark Cloud.
The PS5 Pro is a slight upgrade with NO DISC drive. What a joke ! 😅
Ps5 is the worst gen of console in history for games and it’s not close. Payed 800$ just to play ps4 games
😂 Don't rush consoles next time. Overcome the hype
Atleast i get to transfer and syncronizing my Genshin Impact data from windows 7 pc to Ps5 so i dont have to worry about loosing all of my file or my pc stop working in the future.
I had the base PS4 so I"m treating my ps5 as a ps4 pro pro, which is working out well though it was quite expensive (especially where I live outside US). I'm really enjoying astro bot right now, probably the best game I played in years. and I loved the new ratchet & clank as well. Spiderman 2 was ok, fun but disappointing. So overall it was an ok purchase for me. I would be disappointed if GTA6 will not run well on the base PS5 because they're trying to push this pro system, while we didn't get almost any games for the base PS5.
@@danielthe1st GTA 6 can run well on the base ps5 unless sony just want to deliberately force people to get the pro and people shouldn't allow that. The GTA 6 hype is becoming too much as if it's going to explode a console 😂 You all might be surprise it won't live up to the hype after launch. So chill. Ps5 pro is pointless.
@@josefelfinito6925 There are so many carriages on the GTA VI hype train that it already can't live up to expectations. It's being pegged as the saviour of this generation because it's been so bad (and Rockstar have been milking GTA V for 11 years now), but my gut feeling says it's still not going to have as good a story as _Red Dead Redemption II_ which discussed a lot of mature themes, and mostly did it well. Can't see it measuring up to the levels of _GTA IV_ story either.
Might as well get a decent PC at this point you can play thousands of retro and newer games on it. What's sad is this will sell out
This is silly. I don't even have a ps5 yet. Still, I'd rather just buy the physical disc base version instead. Actually I'm better off just staying on the ps4 until the ps6 comes out.
but you wont be able to play new games !
@@Kizzy_Bthere's barely 10 games that are good on the next gen consoles
@@Shameersaim but Astro Bot 🙀 tho
@Kizzy_B many new games are STILL coming to PS4.
@@midnightstrike3625 name 5 🤔🤨
The inflation argument is stupid. The more important thing is that wages haven't kept up with inflation so most people's purchasing power is less. With that in mind, the PS5 Pro is actually less affordable than the $599 PS3.
Wouldn't it be ironic if there was a PS5 Pro enhanced version of Silent Hill 2. That way, you could spend close to a grand in order to play an enhanced edition of a remake of a PS2 game. Something expensively poetic about that notion.
Ps5 Pro was a disaster at annoucement, we got promised this amazing machine , now we have a upgrade to 2tb internal storage and the big 3 as sony call them.
To top it off no disc drive its a extra with a inflated price of the pro. For something that had little to no real improvment over the PS5 i already have.
All this did was give the scalpers the opportunity to buy up every ps5 disc drive and stand to resell at lauch of the Ps5 pro to make a killing.
I as a content creator will not be supporting this inflated price hike of the Ps5 pro that falls short of what we have been prominsed over the 1st leak of this catastrophe of a console.
The big 3:
- no disc drive
- no backwards compatibility
- overpriced
For the ridiculous price you would at least expect the better dualsense edge controller and a new more visually appealing design. Not to mention, no new games were shown with it.
You broke. Why are all you complaining? What did you expect. In 2020 the ps5 was 500$ and a 2 tb Ssd back then was 400$ and 300$ on sale. So 800 back then. Ps5 is still 500. So your paying 100$ extra for the 2tb ssd and 100$ extra for more power. Besides the disk drive whats the problem. If they released at 599 with a 1tb drive you would all complain about that.
That and Xbox X 2tb is 599$ and still complaining
@@KenKaniff-dw4jwget Sonys meat out ur mouth dawg damn
@@tacos4419 yeh they could have bundled in a pro controller for that price .
Sony sold us fidelity mode and performance mode with the PS4 Pro and now the PS5 Pro is going to fix this. They have created the problem and now they’re selling us the solution, it’s genius really 😅
That's how governments work
Not a ps5 owner yet but always intended to
Ps5 slim disc is the likely route to ownership for me now
facts and if you want to buy a stand for it Temu has them for $2-3
Same here, that’s the move!
Why though when ps5 plays ps4? Unless its price?
Watching gaming as a whole fall from grace is really sucking lately. This generation is hot garbage. I play my PS5 so seldomly now and my PS3 became my main again. Thankfully I don't jump on everything with online multiplayer so its an easy transition
Ps4 generation was garbage too. GoW. TLOU2, RDR2. GoT are all garbage
Just wait for the PlayStation XS Max Pro
Seriously, after the PS3/XBOX 360 era ended, gaming as a whole took a massive dowgrade and it really shows.
Xbox ruined gaming
Started all the BS
disaster is underestimated no 🧢
Gta6 will be the deciding factor for this console
Maybe after that there will be coming some good games
I bet that won't run at 60 fps without a huge npc density drop.
It has been delayed for a year or two
I remember when the ps2 launched here in the netherlands,
The controller was sold separately in the first few months.
Yeah this sucks, I’m willing to buy a pro as a very casual gamer and I literally don’t have any safe room to have the ps5 horizontal. Plus I have all physical games. I guarantee both the drive and stand are going to stay sold out because of scalpers
This is an electronic "kick me" sign for anyone who buys a PS5 Poo.
Company GREED.
👏👏👏 great video.
Apple is pretty good if you just stay 5 or 6 years behind and get their stuff for $200. I just picked up an iPhone XR lol.
you should try Astro Bot
If Sony really wanted to make some quick cash for a fraction of the cost, then all they'd have to do is announce a mini PS2 Classic system.
It was great growing up with the ps 2 and xbox the excitement going into the next gen was great. the actual new technology that was being put into game console was amazing an made you really excited. You really had to have been there. Now we really came a long way in computer graphics that its not as existing. Game consoles need to focus on exciting games now.
When Xbone screwed up their launch Sony smartly pointed out it wasn't all the bad things Microsoft was doing. And the PlayStation brand got a boost. Now it's acting like Microsoft did. I still have no compelling reason to buy a PS5. Let alone a PS5 pro. What does the pro even mean. Am I expected to earn money of it?
The fanboys are saying how this will be the console to get to play GTA6…🙄
Now imagine buying this console this late into the generation, GTA6 has about 2 years, maybe 1.5 at the least, before even coming out, then when GTA6 comes out and you have the Pro you spent almost 1000.00 on to have..that year PS6 is announced. What a total shit show this generation is. 🤦🏻♂️
A tweet is now just called a post. Yes, they really got rid of a unique name for a generic one.
Just buy a nintendo switch, and enjoy the fun.
😃🙌Throw it in the dumpster 🙌😃 I remember a time when we only had 1 console no pro anything just pro gaming skills.They come up with some really bizarre names now for consoles crazy.
I'm with you about the apple hype bu!!shit...same product year over year..
ha! still got my Ps4 Pro with an SSD installed & new thermal paste! Might be the last console i buy at this rate! Stick with PC from now on.
£840 for the Ps5Pro in UK (if you want the stand & Drive) is insane.
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Yup they done and fked up😂😂😂 No way around it
I have a backlog of 37 game i really want to play on ps3/ps4... thatll keep me busy for the next 5-10 years. I also have a list of about 25 games i would love to replay in the near future... why would i get a ps5. They havent given me a single good reason.
Even the ps5 pro suffers from stuttering from the looks of things. At this price point you might as well get a pc. On the console front, the switch 2 has a wide open goal here, assuming it is powerful enough to be good enough to enjoy for most people (and much more affordable). Nintendo even now, so close to the switch 2 announcement, are still knocking out game after game for what is a previous gen console. Where as the other two have expensive powerful consoles on offer but no games to play on them. Id even rate the current switch above the series x or ps5 frankly from a simple fun factor.
It's probably good for emulation at least once it's hacked and reworked but for that price no thanks I remember when the PS3 came out had so many different models and prices were nutty then.
What are they trying to recup concorde loss on a ps5 pro?¿ 😂😂😂
I suppose if Apple sold your data, the way Google/Android do, the price would be cheaper.
I wonder if I need a different stand to place a PS5 Pro horizontally, for my PS5 with a disc drive needs a stand to place it horizontally due to the weird shape of my PS5.
Totally agree with you mate. Cheers for the Cyberpunk love. 🏆
I knew not to by the first version but im getting this one
Where are the PS5 games?
The price of the PS5 Pro is excessive but so is the price of GPU's for PC gaming.
You would be hard pushed to spec a gaming PC to the specs of a PS5 Pro for the same money.
By the time you add a CPU, MB, PSU, GPU, Nvme SSD, Ram, Case and a controller you are already above $700 for new components. Second hand parts will be closer to the PS5 Pro but with no warranty.
I suppose with a PC you can always upgrade later on and the PS5 Pro cannot but that is the price of console gaming.
Americans should think themselves lucky as here in the UK it will cost us the equivalent of $920 USD!
I will be passing on the PS5 Pro for now as i am happy enough with the PS5 Slim i already have. I don't need to have super duper graphics to enjoy the games i own and tbh i play on my older consoles (PS2,PS3, Sega Dreamcast, ect) more than the PS5. It is not all about the graphics for me, i am more interested in how a game plays and feels than how it looks nowadays.
Love the attitude. Sony money grab. Gamers are sick of the “games”
Also the PS3 did not come with an HDMI cable. It only came with standard def composite.
I'm 100% with you. You just got another subscriber.
I suspect this is one of the last few Jim Ryan decisions like live service
yea i think ill be fine with the ps5 slim disc edition.
Is the PS3 still worth it now? If I get one for Christmas I'll be fine right
Sony trying to make us spend 700$ to play ps4 games. Xbox would be smart not to do the same thing and just start working on the next xbox
i think, they watched apple event, and saw them doing the same, now that xbox and nintendo are not a threat, who is gonna humble them? the "pc master race"? doubt it since they make money with them too. at the end the consumer talked, and the whealty ones can afford the pro. the rest of us, the poor, guess we have to deal witb 720p 30fps normal ps5 new game tittles.
I just bought a ps4 pro 500 million limited edition sealed for 700$ last month. Maybe i should have waited 🥴
In my opinion I don’t own a ps5 and I haven’t at all since its been released so I think it’ll be a grab for me knowing that I personally don’t use disc for games or movies and etc that’s just how I adapted into consoles for a long time. And for ps4 games I just simply use my ps4 to play them, and another thing I would only have to pay around 500 something some change because I’m gonna trade in all my controllers and my switch OLED that I don’t use anymore because it’s kind of boring when I’m on it and Nintendo has been quiet with the Switch 2 launch so I’ll think I’ll just trade it back at GameStop and wait for the Switch 2 to come out to play Nintendo games but that’s besides the fact, for me I’m gonna trade in the Switch OLED and the ps4 and Xbox games controllers that I don’t use cause of stick drift, I would get back 200$+ in store credit so realistically I would only have to spend around 500 and some change for the ps5 pro so that’s why it’s a guaranteed grab for me in my opinion knowing that I don’t don’t own one currently.
1. I'm the 600th like
2. I love this channel
3. The PS5 in general is a disaster
The ps5 is the only thing Sony has left that is selling. I'll wait for the ps5 mini
Only Nintendo still has a clue.
bring Andrew House back
Price is laptop territory. And I already own a PS5 Slim disc ver anyway. Games look the same if not a little darker.. so yeah, no thanks
I skipped ps3, and ps4, but bought a ps4 pro so I could play dead or alive 6. Likewise, I bought a ps5 (2 years in) so I could play Hogwarts Legacy. I don't yet know if there will be a game I want so bad it compels me to buy the ps5 pro.
Still no games.
I only played Red Dead Redemption with 60fps on my ps5 and even that game is a port😂
Red Dead Redemption 2 is still 30fps (thank you Rockstar..)
And now I use my PS5 as decoration..
Since as shown by Sony ...the PS5 enhanced version games look "Barely" any better, Console Gamers would be better off saving their money & buying a PS6 Console when it it's released in approx. 2 - 3 years. Maybe Sony & Microsoft will just completely screw themselves eventually since alot of Gamers might just purchase or custom build a PC. At least a PC can do a "Hell of Alot more" than just play games & is easily repaired due to replacement PC Hardware readily available from numerous local Brick & Mortar Stores & On-line sellers.🙂
at this point nothing they do will bring me back, bye sony
Only Assassin Creed The Only New Game Showcased
No it don't make sense this time why the price is so high , without a disc drive and what that cost to buy beside the console and you have to pay for them to pair aswell ?!. Can't compare to the release of PS3 when everything was included AND it was a gen lap from PS2 to PS3, you paid for something you actually got .
This time the original PS5 is out there with disc and the slim with disc ....for them to believe that anyone with common sense will buy the Pro that has the difference that you have to pinch your eyes if you gonna notice anything big enough to get people to pay that amount without every " parts" included in the machine is ridiculous....how can they believe people are stupid enough to be " sold " their " talk" of differences in graphics etc , its just a wordsallad to get you to open your wallet.
The sales ain't gonna be there for Sony this time , not when they pulled out the drive and a better console allready exist that has it , people will buy the existing PS5:s and are more looking for if games actually are going to come out this gen still .... that its worth buying the console in the first place . The pro is gonna flop bigtime this time.
Its not for anyone at all lmao. I'm waiting for the RTX 5000 lineup instead.
Imagine GTA 6 price
The only thing I can really say that does make sense for this price is that you can’t build a PC that’s as capable for as a PS5 Pro for $700. You’ll be spending closer to like $1,500+.
Nop more like 1000-1250.
@@dsbdsb6637 definitely not
@@MackDaddyVic Stay deluded.
Ok dude, no matter the cost, the amount of hours it will be on makes any cost trivial. I didnt get a ps5, I dont want to queue or raffle to get one. So I am ready for a ps5, no matter any cost.
it's only a disater for the ones crying about the price...other than that it is almost exactly what everyone was leaking.
I thought you were from New England based on your accent - color me surprised that you live in Canada!
I am buying but only by using my tax returns and overtime's bonus
It will be $1,1K CAD for me
I may pick it up but who knows first party games be on PS5 now PS4 done with first party
there's nothing special about iPhone. but the reason apple computers are so good (not for gaming) is the user interface and quality of the hardware. so elegant, seamlessly designed and intuitive to use. they also have the best music and video editing software that are industry standard if you do those things professionally. lastly, they are quality machines that are built to last. in my 18 years of owning a computer - I've had only 3 of them. all MacBooks. and I just got the 3rd one last year. unlike some crappy hp or dell laptop that will crap out in 2-3 years.
Peeps are in uproar. You'd think Sony would address this
I'd rather upgrade to the steam deck 2 when that comes out.
PS5 Pro is a taunt to all players. One thing is to stamp this new console with a ridiculous price, but another thing is to make it just digital?! Are you kidding me?! I am totally wordless. I have had some consoles in my life, currently owning PS3 slim, given by an ex friend, and it is a great console, like good old gaming, which never gets old, coz what is old is golden.
If I was to upgrade to a newer version of PS, it'd be PS5, that's for sure, coz I love smooth gaming and there are some great titles out there for PS5, and one can play PS4 titles easily. PS3 compatibility would be nice, or if there are some tricks how to run PS3 games on PS5, besides buying digital versions on PSS.
But this move by Sony is the worst joke ever!! It is just like Apple with its newest iPhones, which are made just for the profit.
External drive for PS5 Pro is also overpriced. PS5 Pro should be a significant improvement, with a disc drive, to make people to buy it. If not current owners of PS5, then those who have older versions and want something new, with plenty of great features. There are just couple of small improvements compared to PS5, without a disc drive - this has never happened in the videogame industry.
Sony, get new meds, the current ones aren't helping you to think properly.
PC
@@jmangames5562 lol
Yes my buddy is going to build me a P C
All this bullshitery would not have been acceptable back in 07.
PS5 Concord Edition
Is there even a game that takes full advantage of the ps5? The best looking game I’ve played is ghost of tshima and that’s a ps4 game.
The ps5 has barely any first party exclusives this is just stupid