World's oldest animal cave painting in Indonesia - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2021
- Archaeologists have discovered what is understood to be the world’s oldest animal cave painting in Indonesia.
A panel showing wild pigs, believed to have been made 45,500 years ago, was found in a cave in a remote valley on the island of Sulawesi.
Previously, rock art found in European sites were considered to be the world’s oldest narrative artworks.
BBC Indonesia was given rare access to film inside the cave.
Produced by: Muhammad Irham, Filmed by: Anindita Pradana, Edited by: Kevin Kim
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The number of records being broken by ancient finds lately is insane. One thing after the next.
You are quite correct in noting that new discoveries do come after older discoveries ("one thing after the next") and new discoveries are never discovered before the older discoveries. Thanks for that.
Probably what happens when most places are empty and become easier to explore
Indeed. There are 3 caves in Iberia where Neanderthals painted animals, that have been dated to at least 65,000 years ago, that's 20,000 years older than these Indonesian paintings.
Next will be 100k year old smart phone. 👀 💋
new age nonsense.
45,500 years! That predates Peppa Pig by a few years.
Those islands of Indonesia are an archeological treasure trove.
I am absolutely sure more ancient treasures will be found.
Imagine how much culture, history and biology being lost from the devastating cutting down of the rainforest.
I love Indonesia... and have been traveling around the islands several times.
Hopefully, they'll be able to conserve these paintings.
Also, I hope they had scientists measuring the age of those paintings... because I remember coming to several villages where people would try to convince me, that some of their elders were more than 200 years old.
I feel the same way about those islands. My longest love affair, so to speak. Have been fascinated since boyhood. Was lucky enough to live there and travel extensively for over a decade. Now I just miss (and worry about) the place to no end.
I’m very excited for finds like this. It’s one thing to tell the government there is an exceedingly rare species of plant or animal living in an area (which happens all the time in that country), but it’s much tougher for the government to ignore the WORLD’S OLDEST CAVE ART!!!! How spectacular!!! The archaeologist in the end is totally right: the people of Indonesia should be brimming with pride about this! And again, I’m stoked because it means this wonderful area (the karsts of Moros) will likely be much better preserved now. There are several large open pit mines and concrete factories in the area. I can’t imagine they’ll be granted many more concessions within this particular geological complex, given that more art is just waiting to be discovered. And that is great news for anyone concerned about the area’s ecosystems.
I wish more people would pay attention to this corner of the world. There is so much important stuff going on there with such huge implications.
@@alexbaum2204 I absolutely hear and agree with you.
My more than 20-year "love affair" (to use your phrasing) with Indonesia has given me two beautiful sons (on their way to their adulthoods) 🙏🏼
Since 2000, I've been following how Indonesia has managed - or mostly mismanaged - their nature conservation. Old forests have immensely decreased in size and a lot of things have worsened.
Even national parks haven't been safe.
I've had the opportunity to get a bit more insight in how nature has been neglected and how forests and natural habitats have been given little to no value, and have been "replaced" by vast areas of intensive monocultures - mostly palm oil plantations.
As an Indonesian interpreter, I have helped different organizations translating Indonesian documents documenting/confirming the devastating illegal clearing of the forests.
Unfortunately, a lot of people think short term profits... and not enough has been done to help preserve prestine rainforests with everything they include.
Take care.
@@didjeridu100 I wonder if we know each other. At the very least, I’m sure we have mutual friends. No need to divulge your true identity, but mine is right there.
The story of the human race is the story of all of us.
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Agreed. It's the story of Deez nuts on ur chin as well.
The landscape is stunning! Would love to actually see that area.
If the dating is correct, That would mean that the paintings we’re 30,000 years old when the oldest paintings in Europe were made.
A bit less than that as far as we now know; the oldest in France are some 32.000 years old.
the earth is only 6000 years old
@@ememmeme8722 thank you. I didn’t know that
The cave drawings in Chauvet Cave in France go back to habitation in the cave 37,500 to 33,000 years ago.
@@ememmeme8722 lol ...nice jock
Amazing this survived so long. ❤️
Very interesting and worthwhile video.
"Brother, may I have some oats?"
Yeeeess
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Come on BBC, tell us at least the methods and techniques used to date this paintings!
U-series isotope analysis of small coralloid speleothems.
A lick test.
@First Last you would be dead to give results then XD
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My thoughts too
Cor, amazing. Beautiful place, too.
World's first GIF ?
Beautiful rice fields
The picture clearly shows you should never touch pigs. No hand the pig.
But humans obviously hunted the pigs in the drawing
Wild boars. As "pigs" are domesticated version.
Getting LoZ :Breath of the Wild vibes from those cave paintings. Reminds me of the story of Ganon.
Amazing 😲😲
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It would be impressive if buffaloes have been herded in there for thousands of years as well, or if those cavemen interacted with other hominid species
good work.
Amazing
as an indonesian the translation is pretty good
Isn't it truly amazing
Awesome indeed.
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Good on Indonesia for this find!
Intresting... 🤟
great .....
"Known to man" should be added to the end of all these type of videos loool
Also they weren't this to be exact 45k years old , it could be way older.
@@AnupomAG not way older, for the the LTed3 speleothem possibly 1 or at most 2 KA.
When a thousand year old cave painting looks much better than modern "art"
@Real Aiglon he/she isnt wrong though.
Even in Uganda We have the Nyero Rock Painting in Kumi district
The classic that started it all.
45,500 yrs ago?? 😱😱😱😱😱
A kid can easily guess that animal painting.
Just this evidence shows that humans have been around a lott longer than 6000 years!!!😎
I bet cave painting was common all around the world, but most of it was destroyed over the thousands of years.
can anyone explain to me how we are to see the pigs as moving in the illustration given? I see no implied movement.
It's about 100x better than I can draw.
Amazing.
*NO ONE:*
*DUDE 45,000 YEARS AGO:*
Let me draw a pig and blow upcoming generation's mind.
Man what were we doing for 30,000 years before civilization, that’s such a long time. Just out walking around and hunting and eating I guess
wow imagine what ingridients they use to make ink for painting, cz it's 44.000 years ago and the ink still stick on the wall
They already invented the brush. 😯
Last time I also painted my wall that had same drawing i thought childrens done this miss😃😃
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Imagine if it was Actually drawn by dinosaurs
How old are you ?
You and I wake up every single day of our lives with television, cars, radios, and telephones, hell we've got books, telescopes and much more. When these people were alive they HAD the cognitive skills to do everything we do, but they didn't have the ''toys'' we do. They hadn't been invented yet.
Cave Rembrandt!😂
People thousands of years ago, were smarter than modern' humans, in many ways.
(Food for thought).
However, regarding this cave art in Indo
Indo is a very artistic and creative corner of the world, without a doubt.
I guess 45,500 years ago, wild boars and deers were very much bigger (in proportions to humans)...
and humans are also great.
getting here is getting smaller and there were very few ancient humans.
if today's humans were the size of ancient humans then the earth would be even narrower, crowded together especially if you counted the number of humans in 2022
It can be a part of alan Walker's alone part 3 set.
bbc there to charge a £ for each entry into cave?
Why humans are tiny and animals are so big?
I wondered that, maybe our ancestors were tiny, or they were up against deer the size of bin lorry..
they knew how to draw animals but somehow didnt dare to draw human pics..i dont think they were dumb as to not know perhaps they were forbidden by some divine laws?
Maybe they were hoping to catch some really massive animals? I know that some cave paintings are believed to have been a way of preparing for a hunt, in a spiritual sense. Praying they're successful, that they catch something that will keep them fed for a while, etc. Animals were also the main focus of the work, so it could just be them focusing on the important bits and the humans are just an afterthought to the painting. Animals were often considered divine and painted as a thank you for the sustenance they provided. There could be many reasons really. You'd have to have an understanding of their culture to make a real educated guess.
2:57 using three ropes and five men to control an animal is clearly show how big and powerful was the animal. Today people catch elephants like this or we can see mammoths in movies.May be mostly animals were massive like mammoths.
it is in a cave so probably meant to teach their children. If a person draw this for art sake that make less sense (because why?), so what we saw is probably for children or small person that haven't oriented with hunting yet.
Yo that means this was made in the ice age since it ended around 30,000 years ago
This was made by the ancestors of australia's aborigin people.
cari dalam lagi saya pasti ada talipon bimbit nokia juga dari era 45 ribu tahun digunakkan mereka!
40k years ago i belive that animals comunicatet with humans
Old people where intelligent they did things which is not still known by new invention 🙄
It could be a Tapir
It’s a Celebes warty pig en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebes_warty_pig
you can google pic of wild boar they fit exactly my FBI trained cat spotted this
It was a pig running ahead of a hunter😂
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And most of historians says Indonesian people coming from Taiwan 😂
Maybe they intermix?
45k years ago, the light from our closest sun outside the solar system has just reached earth
You sure? Because the closest star to us is only 4 light years away.
We are approx. 25k light years to the center of the galaxy. 45k light years from us would be around the midpoint between the center of the Galaxy heading the opposite direction from the center and us to the opposite side of the Milky Way. So if there’s a planet there, with a civilization, they would now be seeing the light emitted from our sun 45k years ago.
Oats bröther
Thats look like no more than 150 y
thats why there is "archeologist" and you
These guys Made the first stick figures
not one documented salad hunt.....probably so dangerous nobody survived to paint the tale🤣😂🤣
I thought the paintings in Australia were proved to be older ..
Likely that these paintings were made by ancestors of Australian natives.
Nope, the oldest painting discovered so far in Australia is about 17k years old, this is almost 3 times older.
@@rapemap the one who made the paintings in this video was most likely the ancestor of australian natives.
"In your blood are these clever genes" is either a very bad translation or the most stupid thing I ever heard. It is also irritating that the actual paintings are shown for fractions of a second only.
RUclips just added this feature called pausing
correct translation and stupid old guy ranting about pride and ancestors because they dont have anything to be proud of
@@imanafdar thank you. Especially bizarre if ancestors are 45000 years old and not at all related to their actual ancestors.
It might be a clumsy translation, but when I heard it I thought it was a neat, poetic turn of phrase. Even if it is unscientific, it conveyed the idea he was trying to get across.
sometimes indonesian word dont make sense in different languages, this is one of them
0:12 how about taking the Microsoft paint drawings OFF THE 45K YEAR OLD PAINTING I'M TRYING TO SEE. WTAF
were they drawn by the florensis or hobbit people?
Neither. It was more like done by Austronesian. The aborigin people of australia.
No this one is in different region
Two billion years of subjugation is enough. Free the mitochondria!
explain?
The poor enslaved thingies! Let's stop stealing their hard work and finish eukariotic overlordship! That will bring mass extinction, of course, but it's The Right Thing to Do! 😊
@@siwlasilva no criptic language please!
Mitochondrial propaganda nonsense.
You had the whole Hadean and Archean to do your business. Now it's the eukaryotes turn.
@@dumuzidtherisingphoenix Google mitochondria and eukaryote
2:45 ciri khas orang indonesia. ada penemuan dikit langsung dihubungkan dengan patriotisme. gak salah, tapi gak tepat aja. aksi kontributif nyata ke dunia lebih dibutuhkan dan membanggakan ketimbang penemuan coretan orang gabut dari 45.000 ribu tahun yang lalu.. -
Ya Gak papa Daripada di klaim negara sebelah yang Mengklaim awal Peradaban nusantara😅
Gak papa loe sebut gabut Tapi mungkin loe Gak Bisa Ngelukis Babi Sedetail di lukisan gua itu Cmewew😂
@@wahyuddin9377 btw, aku illustrator+desainer grafis bang 😂😂
@@wahyuddin9377 beda topik. gw bahas apa lu jawab apa. lagian kita masih saudaraan sama malaysia, jgn bikin keributan yang gak perlu deh dasar provokator "bayi berjenggot".
perbedaan pendapat itu biasa, lo sama emak lo aja sering ribut beda pendapat. lha masa antar negara ga boleh beda pendapat. 😂😂 klo gak pengen ada perbedaan pendapat mending langsung naik ke akhirat aja bang. realita dunia emang seperti ini
But, but I drew that when I visited Indonedia when I was 6. I remember going in those very caves. My dad helped too.. 😕
Ye?? When?? I'm half Indonesian,my mum from bandung🇮🇩 and my dad is Essex
@@Royaltok_ Um... it was in 2010.....
@@Greenpoloboy3 so, you are the artist!!!. Can i get your signature please?
@@IDMarketer well, it wont come cheap. But It looks like this: ✋
I think every country now has the oldest cave painting. It’s a tourist thing. Every country has the “worlds busiest airport” and every country is “going green” by 2030, 2040, 2050”. Whoever wrote the speech for Greta, blah blah blah was the best thing said, even if it was by accident.
Oh no, where did the teenage girl hurt you?
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Biarin dibilang overproud juga...
ga overproud klo orang indo ga pengangguran dan sok tau, video di atas ada papernya biairin aja.
First View
Anime
Its from malaysia lah
@Lengko Nature satir doang bang yakali beneran
@@lebermar its a satire
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Is it humans though🤔, because there are many humanoid spiciest at that time.
Not on Sulawesi.
Those "humanoid species" are also humans.....
@@lzl4226 both of you ought to look up “humanoid” and understand what it really means. Good luck.
@@martin3203 i believe homo erectus were everywhere across Indonesian islands.
@@harukrentz435 it is possible, but the challenge with Sulawesi is that we have no fossil record of erectus, afaik. And it seems entirely unlikely that these paintings should have been made by erectus. The notion that “there are many humanoid speciest [sic] at that time” of OP is pure ignorant nonsense.
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2:39 👈 Giring opini ninggi2in diri. Pdhal hari ini pencapaianya jongkok kebanting banget.
Have that Tibet 🤪🤣👀
I wouldn't ever imagine they were future tellers.... It is impressive that they saw what Americans would look like.
Maybe there was a common culture with Europeans that pre dated this era . In which case this type of art may go back further in time .
Maybe just 100 years
100 years ago was 1924 😂😂
It's almost half as old as the artworks in Australia!
And not half as artistic as those in the Dordogne Valley.
The clip highlights the oldest known cave paintings of animals. Their criteria must be that; 1) painted with pigments, not scratched, not petroglyphs and 2)depictions recognized as extant animals, not abstract animals.
Australia's rock art is simply in a different category than this Indonesian rock art.
@@One.DeSanctis. And Lascaux is in a different category than this stuff in Indonesia.
I have never heard about any human art discovered, be it cave paintings or stone art, being 80-90000 years old as you imply. Can you point me to a source for that?
Rather the contrary is the case: "The oldest reliably dated unambiguous, in-situ rock art motif in Australia is a large painting of a macropod from a rock shelter in Western Australia's Kimberley region, radiometrically dated in a February 2021 study at approximately 17,300 years old."
The ones who made this painting were the ancestors of the painters in Australia.
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Panic! They’re figuring out our great books were wrong! They’re finding all the evidence!!!!
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When will they find vegan cave paintings .perhaps some nut loaf or maybe some tofu .
“Congrats to everyone who is early and who found this comment”🏆
what do we get? What is there to be pleased about?
What
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probably made by the Flores hobbits before the Indonesians stole their land.
Convergent evolution, they are one in the same.
Indonesian? i thought it was 45k yrs ago?
Homo floresiensis went extinct around 50000 years ago, but there is no evidence that they inhabited Sulawesi. The researchers attribute the cave paintings to modern humans.
@@martin3203 They dont know shit that far back, they make predictions to keep their university jobs based on almost no evidence.
@@MrLoobu thank you, but datings based on U-series isotope analysis of small coralloid speleothems are not predictions.
oldest,yeah,that mean pig is their food before untill arab killed them.
BREAKING NEWS: "New Cave painting Varient of coronavirus discovered"....
What
Let's remember Afghanistan 🇦🇫please.
Yes
Everyone is from Africa theory. A tiny rock made Dinosaurs extinct. Anthropologist are crying 😢. Tripping on something. Or just money hungry to actually change the truth. 😂
I call BS
First known picture of allah.
Muslim respect their god so much, they would never shame their god with jokes or ridiculous looking sculptures.
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