I went through this a few months back. It was so intense I felt like momentarily blacking out. It lasted about a week or two. Now those energies are way more subtle and less frequent.
Angelo thank you for speaking about this. I feel like the energetic deep seated issues are always treated like an afterthought in Non duality - especially the K word (kundalini). Its like a bad word in non-duality, like a taboo to talk about or something. And i see alot ot nondual teachers sort of taking this fundamentalist approach of pointing back to the absolute as if that is going to help. As in sort of hiding in an absolute truth to override or dismiss or avoid facing a relative truth (what is arising, or resistance that is hidden deep inside the body) I realized at a certain point that the right way is to not throw anything out by bypassing. I love how you say we need to use inquiry and follow the emotional stuff right to the resistance. Its like our resistance actually becomes fuel for further transformation. Alot of the meditation approaches I have seen in nonduality tend to look at thoughts while ignoring the somatic awareness through the body where all the deep rooted resistance is held. In traditional advaita, and rinzai zen the whole meditation practice is highly somatic and highly physical to keep the person grounded and also to allow these resistances to bubble up so the body can become clear. Anyway I am so glad youre speaking about this stuff. Thank you, great video.
A fascinating thing is when resistance/reactivity fades away more and more, the uncomfortable sensations pass faster because the mental resistance isn't there.
A few months ago, I realized that I was hoping there was a way I could awaken without letting go of x, y, z. In reality, I know it's not possible, but since there are some things I feel absolutely incapable of letting go of, I thought OMG I am doomed then! 😱 So then I started to think maybe I can settle for letting go of everything except y and z... and that's when I realized my resistance was not really an incapability but a choice: I don't want to let go of y and z 😳 I am so confused because I feel like I really want to live in truth just like you, but my resistance shows I don't, not really...? 🤕 my head hurts
The longest journey is from mind to Heart 💗 Ego is as real as unicorns and imaginary friends… The map is not the TERRITORY! The menu is not the FOOD! Ego is mind-identified Consciousness Return to Heart~Center Then vanish into This! Mysterious Love
Thank you. I can’t tell you what a relief it is just to hear you describing this experience so clearly and recognizing it as part of the unbinding process. This will go a long way toward helping me let go of all the WTF is wrong with me thoughts. 😅 Next time I’ll dive in fully armed with inquiry.
Yesterday I wrote down some words to get a little insight into a sensation that scared me. The most important word was: "No". I have never met this resistance so clearly. I could feel its dark and destructive side. Like it will use the possibility to turn its will against itself, if that is the only way to stay. Since the retreat (and due to certain circumstances), there is a lot coming up. Thank you for this perfectly timed video! Ps. I hope youtube will allow this post, my posts keep getting deleted. Maybe because of certain words? Well, we'll see (-:
Good insight, Maartje. The root of resistance is the defense mechanism upholding this feeling of needing to not "poke the bear", or threaten this primal force. It feels ancient. It will manifest as fear, not something obvious like "this is your ego - back off". Fear. Shame. Needing to protect everyone finding out you're a worthless fraud. It can be any deep dark secret you need to protect from others. Sorry, my brain is mush. I'm half-asleep. Probably shouldn't be typing in this state but I can definitely relate to that feeling that this ancient force (egoic mind) can take you out. The fear or agitation or restlessness feels unbearable and there will be a feeling of "No!", but this is just a conditioned response to avoid feeling this uncomfortable feeling. When this reactivity of fear crops up, this is an opportune moment to investigate what underlying beliefs and assumptions you may have about why this feeling is coming to the forefront. Fear usually means "don't look here", or "I want to run away" to the mind. Even if it feels like you can't sit with the feeling or deal with it, it's an important recognition to know that this is merely another belief, and you can definitely enquire into experiencing these feelings in an open and neutral way. Feelings and fear comes and goes. It's not at all a rigid fixed state - it's a mental process. It might even be innocent but coloured/distorted by beliefs. When you replace "no" with "OK, show me", you allow the freedom for the feeling to be expressed and allowed to move through. Sometimes there will be accompanying physical sensation in the body too. It can flow and move through. If there are thought storms they will become less charged and dissipate and you will gradually experience less absorption in interpreting what emerges as being something that needs to be counteracted against. There's acceptance that what is happening can remain - without the added pain of fighting against it with the mind. Takes practice and writing helps. Relaxation helps. Open mind. Receptivity. All the best! 💛
@@lunkerjunkieit feels like it is/will be scary, if you believe thoughts about it, mentally anticipating what could happen... but, experientially it's fine to experience this sensation (even if the mind says "no" or the body experiences fear) once you get through the mental barriers/blocks and face the fear head-on by allowing it to be felt...the emotion eventually dissolves :) Fear is a powerful block, so it takes patience and practice and courage to feel this through to its end, and to sit with discomfort and restless agitation feels painful physically and mentally/emotionally... but this IS the very mechanism at play itself which is expressing as this fear sensation of unease... universal defense mechanism, we all experience at some point (mostly it's unconscious and dormant)... Emotional triggering/reactivity/outbursts are a big clue to seeing its silent operating come to fruition; and these reactive triggers are an invitation to explore more deeply the roots of these expressions of mental suffering/pain... As they say, the place you least want to look is exactly where you should... as hard as it feels...
Hei Angelo!🤩 Extremly valuable video! Thank you for putting this on your channel🙏 Can you give more examples of other types of questions of investigating this restlessness that says NO? Just staing in it doesn't seem to "tame" it.
Not to resist and accept when we can't do but resist.... that's my "technique". Same thing with identification: just enjoy being awareness and when we identify again with thoughts or emotions, acceptance, trying to put a light on it. Life becomes karma yoga. There is always something new arising in which form ever, often as energy. I did a little test: the only task that is sort of undoable at the same "time" is following the thought process and being aware of it, putting light on it. All the rest: imagining an image, a music, playing working, dancing, feeling emotions, sensing, all is possible putting attention to awareness. But "thinking"? We can put attention and thinking stops, or follow thoughts and attention to awareness stops. Is it because it is much more subconscious, unconscious, then all the rest? is it possible for advanced meditators? besides seeing single thoughts arise?
So the willingness/openness to this "no" isn't enough. I could be mistaken, but I thought that unconditional acceptance was exactly what Pernille Damore suggests in this process? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding one or both of you.
I swear you release just the video I need, right when I need it. I'm sure others must feel this way too. Thanks a lot for what you do, truly.
You're so welcome!
Very helpful. The most fundamental defence mechanism, the will to be, feels like what I imagine a heroin addiction feels like.
I went through this a few months back. It was so intense I felt like momentarily blacking out. It lasted about a week or two. Now those energies are way more subtle and less frequent.
Yes, accepting the unacceptable/ the uncomfortable. Its indeed challenging.
Angelo thank you for speaking about this. I feel like the energetic deep seated issues are always treated like an afterthought in Non duality - especially the K word (kundalini). Its like a bad word in non-duality, like a taboo to talk about or something. And i see alot ot nondual teachers sort of taking this fundamentalist approach of pointing back to the absolute as if that is going to help. As in sort of hiding in an absolute truth to override or dismiss or avoid facing a relative truth (what is arising, or resistance that is hidden deep inside the body) I realized at a certain point that the right way is to not throw anything out by bypassing. I love how you say we need to use inquiry and follow the emotional stuff right to the resistance. Its like our resistance actually becomes fuel for further transformation. Alot of the meditation approaches I have seen in nonduality tend to look at thoughts while ignoring the somatic awareness through the body where all the deep rooted resistance is held. In traditional advaita, and rinzai zen the whole meditation practice is highly somatic and highly physical to keep the person grounded and also to allow these resistances to bubble up so the body can become clear. Anyway I am so glad youre speaking about this stuff. Thank you, great video.
This is so on point , Angelo. Somehow it's joy-giving to see someone else be clear about this stuff
When I keep on saying I'm not the body and honestly accepting it, i feel like i becoming a small ball existing outside the body and spinning so fast.
A fascinating thing is when resistance/reactivity fades away more and more, the uncomfortable sensations pass faster because the mental resistance isn't there.
indeed
Yes, now it feels like elektric , its the energy
🎯
A few months ago, I realized that I was hoping there was a way I could awaken without letting go of x, y, z. In reality, I know it's not possible, but since there are some things I feel absolutely incapable of letting go of, I thought OMG I am doomed then! 😱 So then I started to think maybe I can settle for letting go of everything except y and z... and that's when I realized my resistance was not really an incapability but a choice: I don't want to let go of y and z 😳 I am so confused because I feel like I really want to live in truth just like you, but my resistance shows I don't, not really...? 🤕 my head hurts
The longest journey is from mind to Heart 💗
Ego is as real as unicorns and imaginary friends…
The map is not the TERRITORY!
The menu is not the FOOD!
Ego is mind-identified Consciousness
Return to Heart~Center
Then vanish into This!
Mysterious Love
What do you mean by mind identified consciousness?
@@Giatros89Thoughts, stories, experiences the mind identifies with and as is what I feel he’s expressing here.
Thank you. I can’t tell you what a relief it is just to hear you describing this experience so clearly and recognizing it as part of the unbinding process. This will go a long way toward helping me let go of all the WTF is wrong with me thoughts. 😅 Next time I’ll dive in fully armed with inquiry.
Yesterday I wrote down some words to get a little insight into a sensation that scared me.
The most important word was: "No". I have never met this resistance so clearly.
I could feel its dark and destructive side. Like it will use the possibility to turn its will against itself, if that is the only way to stay.
Since the retreat (and due to certain circumstances), there is a lot coming up.
Thank you for this perfectly timed video!
Ps. I hope youtube will allow this post, my posts keep getting deleted. Maybe because of certain words? Well, we'll see (-:
Good insight, Maartje. The root of resistance is the defense mechanism upholding this feeling of needing to not "poke the bear", or threaten this primal force. It feels ancient. It will manifest as fear, not something obvious like "this is your ego - back off". Fear. Shame. Needing to protect everyone finding out you're a worthless fraud. It can be any deep dark secret you need to protect from others. Sorry, my brain is mush. I'm half-asleep. Probably shouldn't be typing in this state but I can definitely relate to that feeling that this ancient force (egoic mind) can take you out. The fear or agitation or restlessness feels unbearable and there will be a feeling of "No!", but this is just a conditioned response to avoid feeling this uncomfortable feeling. When this reactivity of fear crops up, this is an opportune moment to investigate what underlying beliefs and assumptions you may have about why this feeling is coming to the forefront. Fear usually means "don't look here", or "I want to run away" to the mind. Even if it feels like you can't sit with the feeling or deal with it, it's an important recognition to know that this is merely another belief, and you can definitely enquire into experiencing these feelings in an open and neutral way. Feelings and fear comes and goes. It's not at all a rigid fixed state - it's a mental process. It might even be innocent but coloured/distorted by beliefs. When you replace "no" with "OK, show me", you allow the freedom for the feeling to be expressed and allowed to move through. Sometimes there will be accompanying physical sensation in the body too. It can flow and move through. If there are thought storms they will become less charged and dissipate and you will gradually experience less absorption in interpreting what emerges as being something that needs to be counteracted against. There's acceptance that what is happening can remain - without the added pain of fighting against it with the mind. Takes practice and writing helps. Relaxation helps. Open mind. Receptivity.
All the best! 💛
nice, dude
that's scary stuff to face
@@lunkerjunkieit feels like it is/will be scary, if you believe thoughts about it, mentally anticipating what could happen... but, experientially it's fine to experience this sensation (even if the mind says "no" or the body experiences fear) once you get through the mental barriers/blocks and face the fear head-on by allowing it to be felt...the emotion eventually dissolves :)
Fear is a powerful block, so it takes patience and practice and courage to feel this through to its end, and to sit with discomfort and restless agitation feels painful physically and mentally/emotionally... but this IS the very mechanism at play itself which is expressing as this fear sensation of unease... universal defense mechanism, we all experience at some point (mostly it's unconscious and dormant)... Emotional triggering/reactivity/outbursts are a big clue to seeing its silent operating come to fruition; and these reactive triggers are an invitation to explore more deeply the roots of these expressions of mental suffering/pain... As they say, the place you least want to look is exactly where you should... as hard as it feels...
@@nat998, Thank you (-:
I like that you mention that it is an universal defense mechanism.
@@Maart-je 💛 amazing how we all experience similar feelings and insights, and fears. It feels like all streams lead back to the same river :)
Hei Angelo!🤩
Extremly valuable video! Thank you for putting this on your channel🙏
Can you give more examples of other types of questions of investigating this restlessness that says NO?
Just staing in it doesn't seem to "tame" it.
Ayahuasca can feel like this also. Can be very uncomfortable if you resist.
Not to resist and accept when we can't do but resist.... that's my "technique". Same thing with identification: just enjoy being awareness and when we identify again with thoughts or emotions, acceptance, trying to put a light on it. Life becomes karma yoga. There is always something new arising in which form ever, often as energy.
I did a little test: the only task that is sort of undoable at the same "time" is following the thought process and being aware of it, putting light on it. All the rest: imagining an image, a music, playing working, dancing, feeling emotions, sensing, all is possible putting attention to awareness. But "thinking"? We can put attention and thinking stops, or follow thoughts and attention to awareness stops. Is it because it is much more subconscious, unconscious, then all the rest? is it possible for advanced meditators? besides seeing single thoughts arise?
🙏🙏🙏
So the willingness/openness to this "no" isn't enough. I could be mistaken, but I thought that unconditional acceptance was exactly what Pernille Damore suggests in this process? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding one or both of you.
can i allow
the resistance
to be part of my experience
?
Yes. I think that’s the first step.
Thank you
You're welcome!