BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER S03E18''Earshot'' REACTION
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The same lunch lady was actually part of the mob of women chasing Xander in 'Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered'.
I think it's absolutely amazing that Jonathan was a character who showed up once in a while and had one or two lines. Then he started getting 3 lines. And then they suddenly used him in a major way in this episode.
Jonathan was a very small part at first, but the guy is actually a very talented writer... and a pretty good actor.
I think this is the perfect episode to show to somebody who's never seen an episode of Buffy before. It's beautifully self contained and it has everything; the comedy, the drama, a complete story, a twist... Plus Buffy's mind-reading offers a wonderful characterization for everyone, which is very rare for a show where the characters are being carefully developed over a long period of time.
"I think this is the perfect episode to show to somebody who's never seen an episode of Buffy before."
I definitely agree with that, considering that I've done that 2 times.
There are better episodes to choose from that are self contained stories
@@JustJames83 Which ones?
@@agarqueen9126 off the top of my head.
Doomed
Band Candy
Ted
Living Conditions
@@JustJames83Those are all great episodes, especially Doomed has a good introduction at the beginning, but could be a bit advanced in the story for watching BtV afterwards due to spoilers. Ted and Band Candy each have a non-average vibe, but are otherwise good and suitable.
I laughed when you called Jonathan " The typical extra "
I mean that typical extra built an empire.
Danny strong has developed a significant career as director, producer and writer (He did the Screenplay for 'The Hunger Games - Mockingjay'.
Everyone mentions Columbine in association with this episode. Sadly, most are unaware that Jonathan in the clocktower with a rifle directly references the 1966 shooting on the campus of the University of Texas at Austin. Wherein, the gunman shot from the clocktower with a rifle. So actually this episode connects to 2 real world tragedies.
true but the reason Columbine is mentioned is because that tragedy in 1999 preempted the show's airing, so it aired out of sequence and we didn't get to see it until months later
wat did OZ say about trending?... U_U now the mass shootings are every day
I remember this so well. They had to delay the episode and we were all so upset and someone leaked the script. In hindsight I think delaying the episode was the right decision. I later found out someone I grew up with was one of the victims who died.
The episode where everyone should have listened to Xander, Xander actually solved this way early on this episode and the stew, she was pouring that into was "Mulligan Stew".... that was the lunch special that day... hahaha
I love this show and the little things it does.
In regards to the scoped rifle, while it is widely known that the United States has an excess of guns per household, not every household has one, and further not everyone owns a handgun. That rifle may be the only one Jonathan has access to. It's probably his mom's or dad's or another family member's hunting rifle.
Between 1/5 and 1/3 of Americans own guns but many gun owners have lots of them.
I feel that's true here. The only gun I have is a rifle, I have no use for a handgun.
@@mj6866 now, but in 1999 when this episode was made, probably not that widespread, Columbine shocked people whereas now, unfortunately, shootings are all too common
MattyIce95 Sure but the USA is still a country that actually has more privately owned guns than it has inhabitants. Yep, that's right. There's more than 330 million privately owned guns in the USA.
Besides - what Jonathan has in this episode is not a hunting rifle. It's a sniper rifle. Now tell me - for whatever reason does the USA allow private people to own military grade weapons? And not only sniper rifles, but also assault rifles and submachine guns which have rapid fire modes? It's utter madness.
Speaking about the usual excuse of the NRA maniacs - that the founding fathers implemented the 2nd amendment - it should be mentioned that this is a gross misrepresentation of the actual 2nd amendment. First of all the original text refers to weapons of the 18th century (aka muskets), not modern da fire arms. And secondly it specifically refers to regulated militia as the reason for people to own weapons.
The historical context for this is that the newly founded USA had no standing regular professional army and therefore was relying on state run militias for defence. They feared that the British Empire would start another invasion sooner or later (which was indeed the plan of the British; it failed to materialize in the expected way because of the French revolution and the Napoleonic wars). And because of the lack of a professional military the militias where their first and last line of defense.
This has literally nothing to do with the modern day situation. The need for state run militias does no longer exist because the USA have a massive professional military force now, and in addition to that the national guard. The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment doesn't exist anymore, however the NRA supporters still act as if the political situation of the late 18th century was still the situation today.
When the context changes stuff like the 2nd amendment have to be adjusted (just like the Electoral College system by the way which also was suited to fit the technological and political situation of the late 18th century and not modern day politics and availability of information). However the USA never adjusted their laws.
@@HH-hd7nd That was quite the rant and I agree the number of privately owned guns here in the states is ridiculous. As for the gun Jono has...there is a very good chance it belongs to a relative. His father or an uncle who didn't secure the gun, thinking Jonathan was old enough not to mess with it. They may even have the handguns locked up because it never occurred them that Jono would go messing with a sniper rifle.
The Oz, Xander, and Cordy mind reading parts of the scene in the library are so good.
It's my favourite part of the episode lol so perfectly displays all 3 characters. Cordy may be a bitch, but she isn't fake. Says exactly what she thinks. Oz is quiet but a well of wisdom and emotion, and Xander's thoughts jump around faster than even his mouth does lol
This episode was actually not shown until months after the season ended. The columbine school shooting probably the biggest and most famous school shooting in the US happened at the same time this episode was supposed to air so they pulled it and waited almost a year to actually show it.
Ya yet America still has way to many guns it’s actually world famous for random shootings, sorry but it’s true, idk how the haven’t banned guns, yes you have the second “amendment” in the USA but, 1 it was made when there where only muskets and 2 it is an amendment to begin with, the USA need less guns and more Dictionaries, an amendment is something that was changed already. Amendment definition is “ a minor CHANGE or addition designed to improve a text, piece of legislation”,
That’s insane.
Minor corrections: the Columbine Massacre occurred exactly one week prior to when this episode was originally scheduled. It was supposed to be the first new episode back after a month of reruns ("Enemies" had aired in mid-March 1999) and IIRC a preview for it still aired the actual night of Columbine, at the end of that night's rerun. It was a couple of days later when the decision was officially made to delay the episode.
And the episode was only delayed by 7 months. It eventually aired two weeks before the start of Season 4.
@@ItsMeBarnaby so your argument for keeping your gun is if you try to stop the killing I'll kill you?
@@jagmaida5074 No, the argument is that the US Constitution has amendments that state having weapons is a God given right. Germans had the right taken away from them by Hitler. That didn't turn out well. The right to own a weapon in the US is for protection. And protection from a tyrannical government.
The part with Giles bumping into the tree at the end wasn’t in the script - ASH improvised that as they were filming for comedic relief. Love that man. 🖤
Watching this episode, I always wait for the "Mom you had sex with Giles" moment.
twice??? I always laugh
I just found this reactor channel a week ago or so and I literally just finished watching Sofie's reaction to Band Candy a few minutes ago and skipped ahead to this ep to see her reaction about this scene!
Your thoughts at the end are very correct. I never thought about it in that way how Johnathan actually wasn´t stopped from killing himself and Buffy's speech doesn't even completely relates to what was going on with him. It was still a beautiful episode funny, sad and smart at the end from his perspective what Buffy said was: "Are you sad'?... well a lot of people are sad". Maybe he felt compelled to stop by seeing that someone was actually paying attention to him and even when she thought that he was going to do something really bad she still felt compassion for him.
A lot of iconic scenes, such a funny episode with a deep theme. Xander was often right haha
I can't believe you didn't laugh when Cordy says "So, are you planning on killing a bunch of people tomorrow? It's for the yearbook."
7:08 Xander was right! LOL!
Joyce and Giles. LMMFAO!!! But Buffy's last line, made me laugh my axx off.
Willow wasn't so much having 2 separate thoughts as in being genius (though she's very smart and might be a genius) but more thinking one thing and saying the opposite. While it could be considered having 2 different thoughts, most everyone does that at some point. Trying to be supportive when you actually have doubts. Pretending not to be jealous, etc.
If I had to select one ep to show the genius of Buffy, this would be it.
10:41 Yes, unfortunately school shootings have almost become routine in the USA. Because apparently we love guns more than our children so therefore we are practically unable to pass any gun legislation. And other comments may have mentioned this, but the airing of this episode was delayed until the summer because it was set to air right after the Columbine massacre.
Giles and Joyce looks so much like parents anyway.... Lol
i love buffys speech to johnathan
This episode was supposed to originally air on April 27, 1999, one week after the Columbine school shooting massacre. The preview actually showed the day of it on April 20. That was just how relevant the show was at the time.
I like how everyone assumes that Angel only kissed Faith.
Faith?
Please. She rode him at a gallop until his eyes rolled back in his head and he popped like a bottle of warm champagne.
Fun Info about this episode.
Willow's interrogation of Jonathon with "sometimes we have to make it so that people don't ignore us, make them pay attention" is what drove him to want to kill himself at the school the next day ;-)
What?! I didn’t catch that
As I recall, the original airing of this episode was actually delayed by several weeks (maybe months) because - surprise, surprise - there had been a school shooting in the US and the Johnathan subplot hit a little too close to home.
Ahh those two dudes are iconic with their stunned reaction after hearing Buffy say sex with my mother lol the way they turn their heads in stop and turn to what? Moment lol I enjoy those little with details
When we first see his band on stage "Dingos Ate My Baby" is on the drumset.
cordy always speaks her mind, this was so funny, angels dry humor is gold
School shooting aren't just a thing in the USA. This episode was postponed because of one.
Please don't tell me it doesn't actually take mind-reading for Buffy to realize boys are "seriously disturbed." 😁
I assumed Oz had complex thoughts long before seeing this episode a first time. Knowing Willow first wanted to kiss him because Xander started dating Cordelia kind of already showed it (along with other things), this episode just proved it.
I don't think Nancy was thinking about Buffy at 6:27-6:30. She never sees Buffy. I assume its the girl she was talking to before walking away.
What I find funny about the "you had sex with Giles" is that Buffy's mom couldn't stop thinking about the fact that she'd had sex with Giles until Buffy found out... but on the other hand, Buffy spent a lot of time with Giles and the thought never even crossed his mind once. 😂 Men!
XD
He was too focused on buffy situation to think about her mom. When he is doing something he put all of his mind into it.
oh MY BAENGEL why is he so perfect? its insaine to think that he got the role thru a chance meeting wile walking his dog xD my goodness hes like a cartoon prince or something O_O ♥
Now that I think about it, Jonathan note really sounded liked a suicide note.
You're very correct saying that this episode does deal with from heavy subject matter. In fact, this episode in particular was delayed in airing due to it being originally scheduled in the wake of the actual Columbia School Massacre in 1999.
Real Horror on Highschools - no Dämons, no Vampire are needed.
@8:58 "I can barely sleep with my own thoughts."
Advise!! Start meditating daily. ^^ It has so many benefits!
The comedy of this episode is incredible, despite how serious it actually was.
This episode of buffy was postponed due to the colerbine school shooting.
7:10 lol
also... whats that extras name again? Girl you´ll know by the end of the episode :)
Yes, Twice😸
Even if Jonathan thought that Buffy only intervened because she thought he was going to kill people, rather than himself it wouldn't really matter. The lesson she gave him about everyone else's pain was what mattered. THAT's what changed his perspective rather than just her stopping him.
The one thing this episode gets very wrong is the motivation for school shootings. It's not about seeking attention. It's about revenge. They'd much prefer no attention, and being left alone; than being treated they way they are.
Jonathan's choice in a sniper rifle was definitely a deliberate choice in his mental state of thinking. Jonathan is a character who wanted a taste of power because he felt so small and insignificant. Guns are a means for some who may see themselves as weak to finally hold power. But what sort of power did Jonathan crave, specifically? There are and will be many characters in BUFFY who seek and also gain the power they seek power and then abuse it. It seems that the power he craved was the power to be noticed and remembered.
His twisted thinking was that if he went through with the deed, the students would somehow realize that he had the opportunity to kill any one of them due to the scoped rifle and high ground visibility but he only shot himself, reasoning to himself that it make him memorable but technically not a monster. He wanted to show that he could inflict damage upon anyone and instead he would chose not to.
00:47 I'm just stunned by the beauty of Willow in her red shirt.❤
01:36 - 01:45 That felt very 2020!😅 #INFECT
04:34 - 04:43 Very convenient!X-P (Also the way Buff says:"WHYNOT?X-
Perfect episode for those who have never seen the series before; Buffy's new powers allow for an overview of the personalities of all characters. Oz with his fantascentific ruminations, Cordelia sincere to the extreme, while Xander ..... well who knew him already imagined what he thought (and what about Wesley? XD).
We really laugh a lot (TWICE, JOYCE ?!) but the space for drama and suspense is not lacking, both for the fate of Buffy and for the imminent massacre looming over the high school, an American classic unfortunately.
Buffy's speech was truly perfect and does not lose its depth and sensitivity even after you discover the real intentions of Jonathan, a character who is conquering more and more spaces in the series, who knows if he will be able to enter the Scoobies?
Really perfect final plot twist, hilarious Xander and the cook LOL
Ps I know a lot of guys like Bad Girls, but I agree with Angel: Buffy is the best :3
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This show came this show originally was supposed to air the week that Columbine shooting happened so Josh Wheaton pulled the episode and it was released at a later time back then a school shooting wasn't really a thing yet
That’s insane
@@SoFieReactsTV
Yeah. This episode was written and filmed BEFORE the Columbine shootings, but scheduled to air the week AFTER the Columbine shootings. What are the odds of THAT?
It was absolutely the right to decision to pull the episode and air it a few months later... IMO.
@@UTU49there had been school shootings before, as Cordy mentioned in this episode. But Columbine was a turning point
This is a funny episode. Thanks for the reaction.
"I came up here to kill myself"
- with a sniper rifle?
YES, thats me everytime I watch this episode. I mean, I REALLY appreciate the twist and all that jinathan buffy dialogue, the whole episode really. But its kind of ridiculous how far they went for diversion there
Makes sense that he'd go with what was available to him. He didn't put a lot of thought into it or plan it over a long period. A rifle is simply what was at home.
@@Logan_Baron I agree.