Adding Aftermarket Face, Needles, White LED's & Trans.
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Hey whats your website. I have a 2005 dodge truck needs the speedo rebuilt
@@howardhunter7527 I don't have a website. But you can find my contact information by following that link.
"Nothing wrong with the X25s but he's paying for a rebuild so he's getting X27's"that folks is a technician who actually does the full work. Thumbs up.
What'sa the difference between those two and why should the customer care that he changed/upgraded(?) them?
@@blockbertus the point is, hes already paying the rebuild charge. It includes the 27s, so leaving the 25s in would be highly unethical.
Jeff, could you please share the LED supplier you now use for the white diffused 12v LEDs?
Thanks Jeff for another wonderful and informative video! Also for taking the time to answer everyones questions and being so helpfull. You keep knocking it out of the park keep up the great work and videos highly appreciated.
I like the idea of adding the trans temp mine just needs new light bulbs but might as well add the trans temp
I enjoy watching a skilled artesian at work
Love the content! Would love to see a video on how you are able to run the gauge cluster like that on your bench
I 2nd that I've got a pretty good idea but would rather know for sure
Just fixed my rearview mirror an hour ago your video let me straight to the problem nice job
You are amazing with these!
Great content! I thoroughly enjoyed watching the cluster rebuild!! Subscribed 👍
Tried using a lot of different soldering irons except the adjustable ones a lot of electronic repair shops and I Finally found one I like and its wonderful and can run on household power or a battery. Its actually funny because it's a ryobi 18 volt 1+ hybrid soldering station. I have done a variety of soldering and I love it.
I will only run hakko T-12 cartridge style soldering stations. Direct heating element to tip has spoiled me.
I need a replacement cluster Jeff to over haul the one I have!
I got some lasers one build from some offshore dealer off amazon that ran about 25 cents each. Used those with dropper resistor for the needle illumination and you would be amazed how much they glow and they dont bleed because lasers. Yea. But try em out sometime. Justcheapo laser diodes. Dont get any hotter than your average led but are specific on their voltages otherwise they go on dim mode where the element burned
I'm glad i could finally see how to make the trans temp gauge work when just soldering in a new motor didn't do the trick. Think it's something i'll just leave alone though. Thanks for the great video!
Yep your welcome. You'll need to swap out the eeprom. If you decide to tackle the job someday I could sell a preprogrammed chip.
alright. good to know!
Is the vin also kept in the eprom, or just mileage? Always thought the vin was in there as well.
@@leop9021 your right, the vin is stored in the eeprom as a decimal value. But the important software is kept in the micro. I think it's kept in the eeprom as just a identification placeholder, but doesn't effect operation. Just speculation though.
This took you some time to learn. I have back engineered lots of designs and its a special skill. And i might add that the gm console is one design that was frustrating to deal with. You are worth every dollar you charge for this! Folks, even if you really could do this, send it to this gentle man. There are a hundred different things he is checking and learning as hr scan your board. Its more than just the motor and bulbs. Its the diodes, the regulators, getting decent leds of decent quality, the right color with the right screen and color of leds and then fixing any of a dozen other things!
Excellent video Jeff! Very interesting. Keep it up!
I never get any warnings like low coolant or, anything
Beautiful Work! Everything I have seen you do is quite excellent!! I have repaired industrial equipment for a long time and your workmanship is outstanding! Liked ! Subbed !! you mind telling me your favorite white, 5mm, 12v, flat top led source?
Thank you for this video. I’m going to add a trans temp to my gauges. What is the best method for getting the gauges to zero out and read correctly ? Do you just fire it up and let it do it’s resets and then adjust it to zero according to the gauge face? Thanks
Jeff,
You should consider doing a "about me" video. I'm certainly curious about your background.
Thanks for the videos!
Perhaps that could come down the road. I think next would be where I get my parts, then a tool tour. Those two seem to be commonly asked about.
Wish I still had my 04 Silverado. My current 2000 Project Truck I'm finding is a expensive pain in the ass when it comes cluster upgrades. Adding the trans temp to my 04 was simple. Doing it with the Air Core Motors in the 2000 and having to re-flash this and that. It's just worth it IMO to spend the money on a 99-02 2500 or Cadillac Cluster with Trans Temp, program current Mileage and then spend even more money to upgrade the face plate and needles. Although I may just go with a double pillar pod move my WB to it and buy an aftermarket trans temp gauge. But that is something I really wanted to avoid doing.
My order of chips needed to add trans temp to 99-02 clusters will be here tomorrow.
@@jeffescortlx Your comment just shifted my plans into reverse. Do you have face plates and needles for a 99-02 as well?
@@mcbridemotorsports5788 I currently have white, blue and orange faces for 99-02 gas.
I have square flat top 360 LEDs that look like yours but are square, they light up the board perfectly without needing to put extra add-on LEDs sideways
I've used those LED's many times. While they are good, I bet your 120mph and 0mph end corners are dimmer than the middle/side range.
@@jeffescortlx yeah a little bit on the 120 and 0 but not bad at all, they’re 5 mm 14 V
Another awesome job. Thanks for sharing
Amazing 👍👍
@jeffescortlx so, can you share where you buy your leds? I looking for warm white, red and blue.
I'm in the process of putting together a video to cover all LED details.
A true craftsman.
Love the videos. Keep up the good work. I don't even look at other gauge cluster vids anymore as you seem to be the most knowledgeable. One question: what do you use for sending data to test and sweep the gauges on command? I have done basic powering up, but am curious about the actual data communication. Thanks
I have a 2003 Silverado ECU & BCM mounted in a box with potentiometers for sensors. I can also use my old tech 2, but that a little more clumsy. Thanks for the compliments
@@jeffescortlx You should do a video on that. I'm intrigued.
@@JuggaloCujo fixed until broken did a video on his here: ruclips.net/video/sK-0JmeoRZM/видео.html
Good stuff Jeff and glad to see you posting more great vids! Jeff can you share with me where you found those flat top leds please? Thanks James
That really looks great,
My 98 Chevy s10 5 speed cluster has some dead gauges only the battery and the oil needles are working and also the odometer shows up the digital screen but the miles don’t change could that just be something other than just the cluster? The miles don’t work neither I mean the speed gauge do you fix that?? How much
For something like this it typically cheaper to find a used unit on eBay than what repair service will cost, if you don't mind the odometer value no longer original.
That's pretty impressive. 👍
i use flat wide angle leds in cb radios the light up great
You do great work
How should I get ahold of you. I want to get my cluster done
Great video. Awesome job.
Does the owner have to get his vehicle tuned to be able to use the trans gauge? That's interesting. Great video!
No plug and play they are all set to run it
I’m curious of what wires are connected to your power source I’ve made a bench test and only have red, orange and pink on 12v and the 2 grounds.
great work man
Wow, you could make a car much more valuable with that e-prom tool.
I like that blue tin a lot. look cool
I am kind of surprised that you aren't using a silver solder and just using a lead solder.
Perfect Job, good Video.
How hard do you think it would be to integrate that startup sequence where all needles go to max and back on a bmw dash?
I have access to tools like rework stations and such,and i thought maybe there is a way to program it into ECU or possibly a eeprom/arm procesor on board.
I know i could brute force it with Arduino but i thought there is a better way to do this and you look like the type of guy to ask.
How can I get your service? I have an instrument cluster I’d love for you to build for me.
Look under my channel "about" tab.
How can I get a hold of you for service or email
On your plug that goes into the instrument cluster what color wire is negative and which color wire is positive
I was not aware they made a
12 5mm led I assume it has something on it because you have to limit the current on leds
Dropper resistor is built in.
I had an '02 Silverado, and I was pissed when I found out that the cluster, radio and dash lights had incandescent bulbs soldered in. It was cheap to manufacture but lousy for servicing. I can solder, but tearing the radio and heater control panel completely apart to change a few bulbs was ridiculous. I used LEDs so I only had to do it once.
The 02 will have user serviceable bulbs in the cluster, but yes not the HVAC or radio. There are a lot of lousy LED's on the market that have a shorter life span than incandescent, so you really have to do your homework when selecting LED's.
@@jeffescortlx Ironically, the ones in the cluster didn't blow. I fixed my radio and the lights around my heater controls, and the LEDs were still working when I traded the '02 Silverado in. Now I've got a 2014 Sierra, and I haven't needed to dig into the dash so far.
@@AcmeRacing yes the up to 2002 cluster bulbs are a larger 194 and last a very long time, typically 200k and more. But the HVAC and radio are smaller with a shorter life.
Hey Jeff nice video. I use a digiprog 3 ($100)as you can dump a new file and program the mileage and hours without removing the eeprom.
Where do you get your LEDs, faceplates, and needles?All the best !
Does your digiprog use a chip clip? Wondering how it reaches the eeprom on the 03-04 where the display hangs over chip. Or can it program through the data bus wire? I think my janky tachpro can re-write files too, I just haven't had the patients to figure it out, user interface is chineglish
On the 03/04s I gently bend the PRNDL display to the motor. You can then clip onto the chip.
I also have an MT401 ( want do hrs)programmer that will program most gm models via the serial class 2 data wire .
I order my LED's from a factory that's located out of Shenzhen, fedyled. Lady named Ava takes care of the English speaking. They have 5mm 12v. But flat tops are special order and the minimum order keep creeping up. I'd say they are 95% perfect. Better odds than the random stuff on eBay/Amazon, but reasonably priced compared to mouser/digikey/element. The rest of my parts I order from some one that goes by the name Zach (obviously fake name). Chinese vender that approached me at the beginning of the year. I didn't think China had access to RUclips, but that's how they found me.
LMAO just as i posted the question you answered it in the video. the reason your LEDs are burning out is not because they are cheep ones. its because you cant directly replace an incandescent bulb with an LED without adding a resistor...
Are the funky faces from GM or somewhere else? Why would someone who makes custom faces include the bar codes?
I just assume it's Chinese manufacturers being Chinese manufacturer. It's probably a cloned bar code from some original OEM face they carried over to the custom face.
Why not a hot air station, or why use an iron?
Did you say it should work if i just add a stepper on my 03 and or 04
Where can I get the led bulbs from
I have a question with the trans temp you added is that something that has to be programmed in the vehicle for it to work if it didn't come from the factory with that option?
No other programming or wiring is required to the vehicle (03-06). Even if the original cluster does not have a trans temp, the ECU is sending the information through the serial data bus wire. The non-trans clusters will still display trans over heated warning messages.
Maybe add hot glue for stress relief to two additional LED's
Is there anything that needs to be done on the truck for trans temp gauge to work or just what you did to the cluster in the video?
All 1500's can take a trans temp cluster and work. Only thing that needs programming is the cluster.
Do you have any contact information to get in touch with about the leds? The cubes work but don't have long legs to add the 2 additional bulbs.
Sorry I only offer services, I don't offer parts.
If the LEDs are on their own circuit and all they receive is power, you may try using addressable RGB LEDs and connecting them to an Arduino Uno or similar micro controller and getting any color you want.
My speedometer needle move all the why to the right and doesn't move from there all the other needles work.it just stop from one day to other do you think it's the stepper motor it's on a 1999 gmc Sonoma
where do you get these type of led? i am in greece and mod cluster myself. besides cob 12v which die in around 6 months, i havent found any other type 3mm or 5mm to connect directly to 12v.
If you can get the US Speedo cubes they are better than the average eBay China LED's.
Is that a chevy s10 cluster your turning into a caddy style if so that's badass
It's a 03-05 full size.
'' You rock'' on to the next video....👍
Hey do you do GMC acadia dash clusters?
Anyway to remove that blue tint from the factory overlay want to keep it original just brighter white
No, it's all printed in the same sheet. But some 3rd party faces use a clear transparent number scale.
So trans temp is pre wired all it needs is the stepper motor or is getting installed just fill the empty spot?
For 03-06 yes it's already wired and receiving the trans temp information. Yes you will need to add a stepper motor, light, needle, face and unlocked eeprom.
Jeff (or anyone else) ... Is there anything about these clusters that would cause the battery light to stay on when running?? I have a battery light on all the time, except when ignition is off. Thanks everyone !!!
Email answered.
Are the LED's you use dimmable? Do you do other gm clusters or just truck ones..?
All LED's are dimmable at the component DC input level. But they don't dim at the same rate as the incandescent.
Truly enjoy watching your videos and application of your experience to fix a problem. I have a few lights out on my cluster, along with some of the other units (wiper/fog lamp switch, 4x4 switch, headlamp/cargo light, climate control panel). I also have an issue that the Odometer on the cluster is not very bright and difficult to see during the daytime. would that require the odometer display to be replaced? on rebuild + shipping, would adding the trans temp and possible guage face upgrade be additional? I'm actually looking at selling my 2005 GMC YUKON XL SLT 5.3L flex, and basically looing to get the panel lights working again.
2005 have bad displays for the driver info. It will need to be replaced to get it back to full brightness.
@@jeffescortlx Thanks for the update. I am going to attempt a few bulbs on the other items and see how they turn out. Staying with incandescent, rather than be concerned about polarity on LEDs.
Would that "Display" be included in rebuild? or how much additional?
@@RTB4MO display replacement isn't something that would be a typical rebuild item. Parts that are included with a rebuild is X27 stepper motors and new light bulbs. If you want a quote shoot me a email.
How the hell do you do the programming? I've been looking for a few days.
For this video I've copied the bin file from a cluster with trans temp and wrote that file to the cluster I want to add trans temp to.
Hi Jeff, really enjoy your video's on GM cluster repair. I'm actually in England & have a 2006 escalade, With cluster problems. People like youself are very rare in the UK. I'm apprehensive of sending my unit to the states for time taken, & not knowing how good repairers are. But watching your video's i can see your right on the money.So do you advertise anywhere as a repair shop, turnround time, &cost ? How can i get in touch with you directly ? Peter O
so is it better to just replaced all the steppers motors when u only have one out?
1000% yes. Unless you like doing it over several times.
Do you have any of the White face covers for a 1994-1997 S10 / Blazers??
Sorry I do not
Hey Jeff! So if I order the x100 to do trans temp install does it already have the eeprom file on it or will I need to get one and save it on the x100 itself?
The x100 doesn't come with any files stored on it. I've backed up bin files from clusters with trans temp unlocked.
@@jeffescortlx can you email me sir joeyfast13@hotmail.com
Hey Jeff, how do I get a cost for my 2003 Chevy Silverado cluster!
Rebuilds are $120 plus return shipping.
how does one send their stuff to you to get worked on? I got an avalanche with half dead lights on the gauge cluster, and I want it fixed.
My email address is listed under my channel "about" tab, it's visible to windows PC users.
unable to see about tab
jeffescortlx
I’m there with my Windows PC but unable to find your email address
@@jacksmith3189 Click in my channel page, then the "about" tab on the right side?
FYI I do not plan on attempting what you do I just find it interesting have or do you ever repair the old analog panel
I've never really gotten into the older mechanical clusters. I prefer working with circuit boards. I enjoy soldering and PCB restoration.
2001 Silverado rebuild and add trans temp? Small issue with the odometer/PRNDL display going off and back on
For 99-02 to add trans temp you'll need to buy a different cluster that has it. I can only add trans to 03-06 clusters.
Whats the Info "unknown driver"? I often read it in you videos and wonder about this message becau i dont get. Can you have like useraccounts in cars? For what reason?
Some fancier cars that have push to start can recognize a driver depending on the "key" that they have with them. This causes the car to auto-adjust everything to match how the driver normally likes it, such as the seats, dimming levels of the gauges/dash, and outside mirrors among other things. Less fancy cars you can press a button to switch between drivers. I imagine the reason a cluster would say "Unknown Driver" is because it's not getting a proper response from the body control module.
How do you like the tacho pro? Is it worth it? Please offer the pre-programmed eproms for trans temp someday.
He does. He stated that in someone's reply, just msg him.
How much for the black Cadillac face shown in the vidoe? Without trans temp. Mines for a 03 Tahoe z71 no trans temp
After market faces are an additional $50 over the cost of a rebuild ($130). But that combination of service will give you trans temp. It's plug and play.
I have a 2004 suburban and replaced all motors with x27's and correct leds,got a new escalade face with trans temp and it worked without having it programmed, I am one of the lucky ones that didn't have to have it programmed with it being a 2004 but heard it's a 50/50 chance on working or not, is that correct?
50/50 chance of trans temp working on a 03 model. I have never seen a 1500 04 with with trans lock unlocked from the factory.
@@jeffescortlx thats weird, thanks for the info 👍
@jeffescortix In this video, you said for the '03 and '04, you just add the Trans Temp stepper motoor and it works, but then I have an '03 Chevy Trailblazer and have been told that it won't work on the Trailblazers as they have no sending unit. Can you confirm this for me?
For early 03 some have trans unlocked from the factory. But the trail blazer doesn't physically have a location for a transmission temp, so it's physically impossible to add one unless you do some crazy modding.
It's in the trans and you can get the data via obd / bus line but Jeff is correct the trailblazer/envoy/bravada/ascender/ranier/9x clusters never had trans temp fun fact the ss/r uses a stripped down trailblazer cluster.
If you do this as a profession is there a way i could send my 04. Chevy surburban z71 cluster to get rebuilt..nothing at all is wrong with it but i would like a trans temp and new lights as well...but with the chrome cap needles..just curious and how much you would charge
My contact information is listed under my channel about tab.
Can you program the trans temp to show up through the odometer screen without having the actual trans temp gauge. Vehicle in question is an 06 trailblazer ss
It sort of already does. If it over heats any ways. It will display a overheating warning.
jeffescortlx was hoping for a temperature read out similar to my 07 tahoe. By the time the “dummy light” comes on it’s already too late
@@caseypirro6359 Maybe a 3rd party dash mounted OBD scan tool with a live readout would be right for you. Otherwise were talking custom software.
jeffescortlx thanks for your input !
Might have missed it but how much did this cost of you dont mind saying? Looking for the exact same thing done to mine.
Rebuilds are $120 LED's included. Aftermarket faces are $50. Needle kits are $30.
jeffescortlx thanks so much what ahkuy the trans temp add on? And so I'm assuming that's not parts included? If not do you get them or have a reccomendation where to get them? Sorry alot of questions😂
I'm sure I missed all this in the video also so I apologize for any wasted time.
@@LWNDmax the $50 is for the cost of the new face. But your welcome to provide your own and not have to add the +50 to the service cost if you find a different face you like more. I typically stock a OEM style, Cadillac style both white and black, white chevy, and Daytona. All gas motor only.
jeffescortlx
How does one go about contacting you ?
Approx wait time ?
Where can I get the leds you used on this cluster?
Shenzhen China. Minimum order quantities from the manufacturer for custom LED's is around 20,000pcs. Otherwise US speedo cubes are similar to what I use.
What kind of LED's do you use? Do you mind sharing where you get them, great work BTW.
The 12v flat tops are custom, I order them from the factory in Shenzhen. Minimum order is 5000 if I remember correctly.
Can you add multiple LED's to each location, like you did for speed tach?
@@bennygutierrez4657 you probably could, but MPH is the only location that really needs the extra light spread.
Hi Are there eeprom available pre programed with trans temp
I can make one
why wouldn't GM just make the lights socketed? regardless... great video!
makes sense@@jeffescortlx
Can you provide a link for the clear needles?
You'll have to try eBay or Amazon. The vender I purchase from don't sell small quantities to the public.
Where do you purchase your LEDs?
I'd also like to know.
@thdevilmancometh there are about 10 million choices on Ebay
the bag of shame is full of LED's I tell people not to buy.... unless they like strobe shows
How can i get a hold of you and send you my cluster (2003 Chevy 1500HD) for rebuild?
My RUclips channel "about" tab has a contact option.
What kind of heat gun is that the one u used to remove the motors?
It's a electric desoldering pump. Hakko FR-300.
Have you ever thought about selling any faceplates and needles?
No, not really. I'm too tied up with repairs to setup a store front web page.
can you program these to work on 00-02?
If you're asking if a 03-06 cluster can be programmed to work in a 99-02 truck the answer is no.
How much to do a GMC Sierra 2005
Where can I get an LED LIGHT that you used
2nd Floor, No.219 Niu E Lin Industrial Park, Guanlan , Shenzhen, 518110 , China
@@jeffescortlx 😂
Hey do you have a video working on a 2000 to 2005 Chevy Monte Carlo cluster
Also I’m looking to update to leds.
I want to put smd led with smd resister
Where can I find those clear needles
I don't believe I have a video for that yet. But that cluster uses a through hole 2 leaded lamp, so it's not as convenient to mount a SMD resistor and LED as it is the the truck cluster.
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I’m looking at these led lights
They have a pcb with a resister on the back
I like your expertise and knowledge.... How can one send their cluster to u?
My email address is listed under my channel about tab.