I graduated from HS in 1986. I spent many Friday nights at Aladdin’s Castle, eating pizza, seeing movies, shopping and hanging out with friends. My first job ever was at Windsor Park Mall - Corn Dog on a Stick, then moved to Rings N Things! I bought my wedding dress at a little wedding boutique down near Montgomery Ward on the 1st floor. I remember when Chick Fil A and Whataburger were both in Windsor Park Mall. Also, Chelsea’s Street Pub was a cool place to go hear live music, drink, and eat their mountain of nachos! Good times!
I'm an SA native as well. Crazy how unless you went to Windsor Park Mall or Crossroads Mall back then, we will never see those nostalgic gems ever again in life. Splashtown is gone for good now too. Lost to the sands of time
It's sad to see how even Rolling Oaks is barely hanging on. The city was booming and expanding northward and I think the developers were expecting that area to grow. Unfortunately that growth focused on the 281 and I-10 corridor. It's interesting to see how the University of the Incarnate Word has taken over some space in a similar fashion to Rackspace. When I was a teenager back in the 90's seeing the big domes at night from a distance creeped me out because it reminded me of The X-files lol. Good times.
@@neosthirdeye2291 Well that's good to hear. Maybe they can get some tenants for the anchor stores soon. At least Sears since it's very visible from the highway. Fingers crossed! 👍
Ahhhhhh…..remember that mall so well. My first job was as a dishwasher at the Wyatt’s cafeteria when it first opened. I worked at the Riggins mens store and finished up as a mechanic at the JC Penny automotive center (yes, Penny’s used to have car care centers). I have such great memories of Windsor Park Mall. Unfortunately, like many malls it transitioned into something it was not supposed to be…….a hang out and daycare center for kids.
This was so well done! I found myself quite emotional watching it… Sort of lonesome for those early days of the mall when we kids would just get dropped off and have so much freedom inside that big building. Thank you so much for sharing… You’re very very talented!
When I was a kid, this was my favorite mall to buy my toys from besides a Toys R' Us. I still have dreams about going around this mall strangely, & its usually empty like the backrooms trend lol.
Whenever I have a dream where im in a mall this is the mall. It focuses on the second floor looking over near the spiral staircase and water fountain area
As a little girl we went to this mall so much. My grandmother needed to make her Montgomery Wards Payment each month and that's were she went. Great video. So much info and so many details. Great job sir. 👏
Loved this mall growing up. There was two book stores across from each other on the second floor, and a kaybees. The movie theater had a tiny arcade and we would play galaga that was near the entrance of the theater open. Tucked in on the left side of the mall was a nice darkly lit arcade before going to the theater rooms
Thanks much for the video!! My husband and I met in the fall of 1976 !!! Where I worked at the time Wyatts cafeteria. I started out as a bus girl (still a teenager) ,later became cashier .I lived at that mall!! I walked to work,shopped at the mall ate at the mall,went to the movies for a 1.00.my wedding dress came from that mall ,.....great times!! Sorry I didn't take pictures When I could have!! Got to see zsa zsa gabor one of the sweat hogs ,couple came into watts that looked like Burt Reynolds The place was a buzz because he resemble Burt ,and when he came up to pay for his meal ,I asked him if he was Burt Reynolds and the blonde lady answered "he'll never tell"!!! And walked out ...thanks for the walk down memory lane.....😉
Loved this mall , went there many wkends to hang out with friends. Loved the arcade that was next to the movie theatre. Later in my early 20s I worked at Montgomery Wards for a few years. Lots of great memories!
My Uncle was in his teen years back in the 80’s. He was telling me that Windsor was the spot where a lot of the upper class kids from Madison hung out. It was a mostly Caucasian school at that time. But one thing I didn’t really understand is that a kid could spend an entire day at the mall back then. You had stores, arcades, and the movies. By the time I was growing up malls were still around, but going to them wasn’t an all day affair.
You absolutely could spend a whole day there. No internet, no online shopping, no cell phones, no social media. It was a great place to get out of the house, play video games, eat, watch a movie, shop, hang out and maybe run into friends or someone you had a crush on 😊 If you watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High you’ll see a pretty accurate depiction of teens working and hanging out at the mall like they did in the 80’s.
@@thesaexplorer I’m still not sure if I did. I definitely saw Phantom Menace at a mall but I can’t remember if it was this or Rolling Oaks. I think it was Windsor.
I grew up in the windcrest area and I went to elementary school at windcrest Elementary and I went to middle school at Ed White Middle School. And back in the late 90s and early 2000s I used to go to that mall every day and I used to go to the movies every time a good movie came out cuz it was a movie theater inside. Be completely honest with you I remember exactly what it looks like in the inside and it's been over 20 something years since I've been there. But it's good to see that backspace didn't let this building go to waste.
Every time my middle school, high school would go to San Antonio.... Windsor Park Mall. First cabinet of mortal Kombat I ever saw. Windsor Park Mall. That moment was pretty significant, I still remember that. Life changing.
i was there from day 1 ..lived on galahad when it opened. went to camelot elementary at the time . everyone knew everyone. kickass place and time to grow up.
I remember frequently shopping there, when I first moved to town, in 1990. My aunt lived not far away, just off Austin Hwy. I got a small apartment nearby as well. I believe that JCP auto center was one of the places I'd applied to work that summer. Eventually got a delivery job later, though.
All tenants of the former mall are set to evacuate this year. Atleast TaskUs and Rackspace are set to leave this year. So it’s sad to see that the mall could soon just be abandoned.
I wish I could get a tour of inside...as far as I know, most if not all the mall has been gutted, but the old flooring still remains from parts of the mall that hasn't been built out for rackspace
I used to go to that mall when I was little kid, long before it had a food court there were eating places pretty much all over. The one I remembered the most was an Arby's where it used to have saddles for chairs. There was also small Chinese eating place close to one of the mall's entrances where they those batter dipped chicken pieces. I also remembered the $1 movie theater and pizza place close to where I think Dillard's used to be, it was in the same area as the Arby's I mentioned before. There was also a Mexican restaurant that was across from Wyatt's Cafeteria, which was later turned into a Jailhouse Cafe and turned back into another Mexican restaurant. The stores I used to go to the most are Walden Bookstore, B. Dalton bookstore, Musicland, and Spencers.
Forgive me, I moved to SA from Germany in April 2007 and I never got to go into this mall but I notice that about a mile or so south of the mall along IH-35 there’s another smaller mall that’s now a Christian Church and school where I could clearly make out where the individual stores were at so the interior allows my imagination to see what it looked like maybe in the late 70’s-early 80’s. I grew up in Klamath Falls, OR in the 70’s and 80’s before joining the Army in 1983 and we had a smaller mall that did very well but the larger and much nicer mall with a couple large anchor stores along with a Woolworth and Radio Shack could barely keep the lights on from 1975-90 until it finally closed in the late 90’s. Walking through older malls is a unique experience to me, sort of like a living museum or something. Thanks for sharing this video.
I think you're talking about Alamo City Church. Its building was an outlet mall that barely existed before it closed down. Later, the church bought the property
Thanks for this video. I gotta say I am kinda obsessed with this now ( I worked for years in an abandoned truck depot for a major retailer) . Sure would love a tour.
Yea I'd like a tour as well. Someone on my Instagram who claims they work for rackspace said they could possibly set me up with a tour. Still waiting on what they say
Cool video! I went to the grand opening...I was 12! My mom worked at Montgomery Wards for years and my sister worked at Joskes. Too bad it's gone. And now I hear Rackspace is leaving too. I wonder what Windcrest will make of it? I think they should do a huge indoor park with skating, games, movies, & food!
I still remember right next to that mall was a Walmart which closed sometime in the early 2000s which turned into a flea market which is now a goodwill you can see at 8:42
Thanks, this was a lot of work to put together. I appreciate the memories. So many pizza slices at Luca’s, so many movies at the UA Cine Cinco, so many wonderful shopping and hang out days with my my mom and sisters; and later on, my high school friends. One fact check I have is on the renovation that took place in the 80s. I seem to recall that the new tiling and modernization of the color scheme (from the oranges and wood tones of the 70s to neutral 80s colors) happened around 1986. Was that strictly the new Mervyn’s wing, with later updates occurring over the following years? I started working at Rolling Oaks in 1989 and may be misremembering- but I thought Windsor completed its renovations before Rolling Oaks was built.
I'm not sure exactly when the renovations were done since I wasnt even alive in the 80s lol but from what I read was that around the time rolling oaks was being built, windsor park mall renovated their interior. Photos are scarce of this mall so I used what I could. I actually have a photo of the mall from the late 70s/early 80s with the orange color schemes that I included in the before/after shots of the Inside of the mall. Thanks for watching!
I think 1999 was the last time we went, we walked in for 2 minutes and heard gun shots… Thats the only memory I have. I remember Mervyn’s and I think the food court had ICEE’s. I was so young. I remember alot of beautiful girls… I helped do construction cleanup when rackspace took over
Wow, that's too bad. I remember going to Windsor Park Mall when I visited my brother who lived not far from the mall. It was unique from the other malls. The atmosphere was more laid-back and relaxing.
Thanks for this video! I grew up near Windsor Park Mall, but my memories of it are so hazy. I remember going to it sometimes when I was a new and nervous driver because it was the most convenient mall. I'd walk around for a little bit, wishing it was still a decent place to shop, and then leave. 😂 I'm surprised you didn't mention it being used as a shelter for Hurricane Katrina evacuees just days after the mall's closing.
Yes, I remember that! My family took donation items. My parents (reverend& missionary) were there for spiritual&mental counseling, helping contact old pastors for church birth records so victims could recieve fed help.
Thank u for doing this story on the mall ..a lot of people are not familiar with this mall but I fam. I did years of Christmas shopping there. And lots of pictures with San ta Claus for my kids. It is true though how it all went downhill, especially with crime. I remember being at the bus stop and a man was there with a new fesh pizza he was taking hime to surprise his children with, however..some young males jumped him and took his pizza and ate it on the spot! When I asked why they did that, they said, because they were hungry and laughed. I wish malls could make a come back, I wish people could keep their hands off others, but it wont happen. Its safer now just to shop on amazon and stay home. It is not 1986 anymore...
I remember interviewing at Rackspace. They took me to the "Donkey Kong" room, lol. Very interesting place and experience! I had a number of friends that worked there over the years and had great experiences, but by some miracle I dodged a bullet and didn't get hired. They had their downhill trend start right around that time.
I remember when that was a brand new sparkling jewel in San Antonio. I enjoyed going there and having eats and drinks at Chelsea Street Pub after shopping at al the different stores. I know economics and shopping patterns caused changes and added to the decline in mall attendance. However, I can tell you that the "Thuggery" and the little punks that began hanging out in Windsor Park Mall is what stopped me from going there, and I was a policeman. Bexar County Sheriff's department even opened up a satellite office in an attempt to stop the little gangbangers from destroying the place but even that was not enough to make people feel safe. When you talk about urban decline, a lot has to do with certain elements within the neighboring population and it's effect. This is a prime example of decay caused by street hoodlums and crime. A once thriving business and employment opportunity for many people living around the mall was destroyed by Thugs and not the law enforcement that responded to all those criminal incidents. This is a great example of what the outcome for America will be for those who believe in the lunacy of De-Funding the Police. You put together a very good video of what once was and what it turned into. BTW: I thought a company like Rack-Space would have far better looking offices, it's kind of a bleak and dismal looking working environment. Hopefully they use that money the save to pay there employees really well?
Ahhhhh….Chelsea Street Pub!!! Some of the best times I barely remember were spent there. Also, my almost daily devouring of their heaping cheese covered nachos most likely contributed to some of the health issues I’m dealing with today.😬 so many glorious memories I have of the Mall. Life was so simple back them….🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
My dad had his car (Pontiac Bonneville )stolen in broad daylight in front of JCPenney’s 1989. Awesome mall in the early 80’s ( most people who live in San Antonio no exactly why this mall failed)
Wow, really?! That's wild. The city should just demolish and sell at this point. I know they got fleeced out of $8mil by a former mayor and his brother that was supposed to develop work/play/live spaces to accomodate the Rackspace crew.
Do you remember the old cd and cassette music store was right next to Wendy’s and bathrooms were right there too I think they were on the 2nd floor next to Montgomery ward
My dad worked on the mall, we went to walk thru it. As we were walking towards the mall a cop was chasing a blk dude who had clothes under his arm. Dude had a big afro, bell bottom pants and black platform shoes. My dad said, 'this place wont last'...he was right
The writing on Windsor Mall was clear at the expansion of corporate development versus the aging residential areas of the area. Coupled with an unfortunate high crime rate area, the mall was sandwiched between Crossroads Mall (also now dead) to the north and the military communities of Lackland/Kelly AFB to the south containing their own shopping areas at the Base Exchanges. With the westside development, new shopping areas are cropping up with specialy stores and more conveniently located to new residential areas minus the crime rate.
I was supposed to meet a friend at that bus stop that very day, but as usual I was running late. Ms Grant slumped over onto my friend....that would've been me😔✝️those in charge of security long ignored the need for a larger presence on the premises in hopes to sell up cos by then everyone had run screaming to Rolling Oaks where no buses ran.
@@titan8611 I beg to differ. There are many Dr offices downstairs that is keeping the mall alive along with the flea market. At this point, I don't even consider it a mall anymore
I have a special memory of Windsor Park Mall. My grandparents lived in San Antonio, and every Christmas break my family would visit them from out of state. But they lived on the opposite side of the city, so we only went to Windsor Park, once. December 1982, to see the movie, The Dark Crystal. It was a magical moment in my childhood.
I am unable to find out the name of the mall (was Said) to house the current Alamo City Fellowship church on i35 . I really would love to know and see pictures of it in it's day. I feel like that is not a google search but something where you have to know someone older who was there.
From what I've heard, it was an outlet mall that barely existed before shutting down. I'd be interested to know more about it too, but there probably isn't much information about it if was really so short lived.
I remember my mom and dad having a major fight (my dad's fault) My dad took us to this mall in 1999 where he bought us pizza and bought me Qui Gon Jinn's lightsaber and my brother he bought Obiwan Kenobi's. (its been 30 years he made good on his promises and he and my mom have together for more than 30 years.)
@@thesaexplorer my mom opened the sears in both Ingram park mall and rolling oaks. I will see if I can find photos of it and will keep you posted. Thank you for this video.
@christinescott5002 that's awesome! My mom worked at sears at rolling oaks in the late 90s. If you have an instagram, you can follow me on there and send whatever photos you have there
@@thesaexplorer and I continued the sears legacy working there as well. Great to get good concert seats!! In the better days before Ticketmaster became ticketbastard.
I didn't move to San Antonio until 2004 so thd Windsor park mall was dying out. I did live along Walzem road for many years. We don't live there anymore and don't plan to live east of downtown ever again. Bad place to live.
I graduated from HS in 1986. I spent many Friday nights at Aladdin’s Castle, eating pizza, seeing movies, shopping and hanging out with friends. My first job ever was at Windsor Park Mall - Corn Dog on a Stick, then moved to Rings N Things! I bought my wedding dress at a little wedding boutique down near Montgomery Ward on the 1st floor. I remember when Chick Fil A and Whataburger were both in Windsor Park Mall. Also, Chelsea’s Street Pub was a cool place to go hear live music, drink, and eat their mountain of nachos! Good times!
I bought my wedding dress there too (in 1984)
My First Job was Corn Dog on a Stick in 1982😄.
I'm an SA native as well. Crazy how unless you went to Windsor Park Mall or Crossroads Mall back then, we will never see those nostalgic gems ever again in life. Splashtown is gone for good now too. Lost to the sands of time
It's sad to see how even Rolling Oaks is barely hanging on. The city was booming and expanding northward and I think the developers were expecting that area to grow. Unfortunately that growth focused on the 281 and I-10 corridor. It's interesting to see how the University of the Incarnate Word has taken over some space in a similar fashion to Rackspace. When I was a teenager back in the 90's seeing the big domes at night from a distance creeped me out because it reminded me of The X-files lol. Good times.
@@txcrix9236 rolling oaks is not struggling. It's actually thriving
@@neosthirdeye2291 Well that's good to hear. Maybe they can get some tenants for the anchor stores soon. At least Sears since it's very visible from the highway. Fingers crossed! 👍
@@neosthirdeye2291I would disagree. Sears is gone and so is Macy’s. There is tons of vacancy in the space and lots of odd stores.
I agree with this. Recently rue 21 and express has closed from there. A lot of vacant/mom and pop stores
Ahhhhhh…..remember that mall so well. My first job was as a dishwasher at the Wyatt’s cafeteria when it first opened. I worked at the Riggins mens store and finished up as a mechanic at the JC Penny automotive center (yes, Penny’s used to have car care centers).
I have such great memories of Windsor Park Mall. Unfortunately, like many malls it transitioned into something it was not supposed to be…….a hang out and daycare center for kids.
Thank you! I KNEW there had been a cafeteria there I just couldn't recall the name😊
This was so well done! I found myself quite emotional watching it… Sort of lonesome for those early days of the mall when we kids would just get dropped off and have so much freedom inside that big building. Thank you so much for sharing… You’re very very talented!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it!
Leave the blacks to what they want . Nothing
Luca’s Pizza was amazing
After I got off work (JC Penney) a bunch of us would go to Chelsea St Pub for a
“ mountain of nachos and long island tea”.
When I was a kid, this was my favorite mall to buy my toys from besides a Toys R' Us. I still have dreams about going around this mall strangely, & its usually empty like the backrooms trend lol.
Whenever I have a dream where im in a mall this is the mall. It focuses on the second floor looking over near the spiral staircase and water fountain area
I’m a former Windsor park mall security officer From 2002-2005. Good memories.
As a little girl we went to this mall so much. My grandmother needed to make her Montgomery Wards Payment each month and that's were she went. Great video. So much info and so many details. Great job sir. 👏
My favorite subscriber 😄
Why didn't she just setup auto payments online?
Loved this mall growing up. There was two book stores across from each other on the second floor, and a kaybees. The movie theater had a tiny arcade and we would play galaga that was near the entrance of the theater open. Tucked in on the left side of the mall was a nice darkly lit arcade before going to the theater rooms
Thanks much for the video!! My husband and I met in the fall of 1976 !!!
Where I worked at the time Wyatts cafeteria. I started out as a bus girl (still a teenager) ,later became cashier .I lived at that mall!! I walked to work,shopped at the mall ate at the mall,went to the movies for a 1.00.my wedding dress came from that mall ,.....great times!!
Sorry I didn't take pictures
When I could have!! Got to see zsa zsa gabor one of the sweat hogs ,couple came into watts that looked like Burt Reynolds
The place was a buzz because he resemble Burt ,and when he came up to pay for his meal ,I asked him if he was Burt Reynolds and the blonde lady answered "he'll never tell"!!! And walked out ...thanks for the walk down memory lane.....😉
If it wasn't Horshack, it doesn't count.
Wow, I've lived in this area for years and never realized that this building used to be a mall.
Yup! It was pretty cool back in the day
It died out in the early 2000s,
too many gang shootings…
I remember hearing gun shots after walking in for 2 minutes
Loved this mall , went there many wkends to hang out with friends. Loved the arcade that was next to the movie theatre. Later in my early 20s I worked at Montgomery Wards for a few years. Lots of great memories!
The arcade was Aladdin’s Castle I believe
My Uncle was in his teen years back in the 80’s. He was telling me that Windsor was the spot where a lot of the upper class kids from Madison hung out. It was a mostly Caucasian school at that time.
But one thing I didn’t really understand is that a kid could spend an entire day at the mall back then. You had stores, arcades, and the movies. By the time I was growing up malls were still around, but going to them wasn’t an all day affair.
May we never forget going to the movie theatre at that mall
You absolutely could spend a whole day there. No internet, no online shopping, no cell phones, no social media. It was a great place to get out of the house, play video games, eat, watch a movie, shop, hang out and maybe run into friends or someone you had a crush on 😊 If you watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High you’ll see a pretty accurate depiction of teens working and hanging out at the mall like they did in the 80’s.
@@thesaexplorer I’m still not sure if I did. I definitely saw Phantom Menace at a mall but I can’t remember if it was this or Rolling Oaks. I think it was Windsor.
@@carollucks8491I’m 33 today but I was old enough to see teens hanging out at malls in the 90’s on a Saturday morning.
I grew up in the windcrest area and I went to elementary school at windcrest Elementary and I went to middle school at Ed White Middle School. And back in the late 90s and early 2000s I used to go to that mall every day and I used to go to the movies every time a good movie came out cuz it was a movie theater inside. Be completely honest with you I remember exactly what it looks like in the inside and it's been over 20 something years since I've been there. But it's good to see that backspace didn't let this building go to waste.
Every time my middle school, high school would go to San Antonio.... Windsor Park Mall. First cabinet of mortal Kombat I ever saw. Windsor Park Mall. That moment was pretty significant, I still remember that. Life changing.
i was there from day 1 ..lived on galahad when it opened. went to camelot elementary at the time . everyone knew everyone. kickass place and time to grow up.
I remember frequently shopping there, when I first moved to town, in 1990. My aunt lived not far away, just off Austin Hwy. I got a small apartment nearby as well. I believe that JCP auto center was one of the places I'd applied to work that summer. Eventually got a delivery job later, though.
This was awesome!
I Would Like See More on Windsor Park Mall
Funny how vaperwave music is in background while exploring Rackspace/Mall. The Genre just seems synonymous with Mall spaces. Cool video.
All tenants of the former mall are set to evacuate this year. Atleast TaskUs and Rackspace are set to leave this year. So it’s sad to see that the mall could soon just be abandoned.
I wish I could get a tour of inside...as far as I know, most if not all the mall has been gutted, but the old flooring still remains from parts of the mall that hasn't been built out for rackspace
I used to go to that mall when I was little kid, long before it had a food court there were eating places pretty much all over. The one I remembered the most was an Arby's where it used to have saddles for chairs. There was also small Chinese eating place close to one of the mall's entrances where they those batter dipped chicken pieces. I also remembered the $1 movie theater and pizza place close to where I think Dillard's used to be, it was in the same area as the Arby's I mentioned before. There was also a Mexican restaurant that was across from Wyatt's Cafeteria, which was later turned into a Jailhouse Cafe and turned back into another Mexican restaurant. The stores I used to go to the most are Walden Bookstore, B. Dalton bookstore, Musicland, and Spencers.
El Chico!!!
Thank you, glad somebody remembered.
@@shampooh8r I looooved WPM so much, went to Wyatt's never Chico but do recall the fountain out front!
Forgive me, I moved to SA from Germany in April 2007 and I never got to go into this mall but I notice that about a mile or so south of the mall along IH-35 there’s another smaller mall that’s now a Christian Church and school where I could clearly make out where the individual stores were at so the interior allows my imagination to see what it looked like maybe in the late 70’s-early 80’s. I grew up in Klamath Falls, OR in the 70’s and 80’s before joining the Army in 1983 and we had a smaller mall that did very well but the larger and much nicer mall with a couple large anchor stores along with a Woolworth and Radio Shack could barely keep the lights on from 1975-90 until it finally closed in the late 90’s. Walking through older malls is a unique experience to me, sort of like a living museum or something.
Thanks for sharing this video.
I think you're talking about Alamo City Church. Its building was an outlet mall that barely existed before it closed down. Later, the church bought the property
I am 44 but I remembered going to this mall in 2002. That was the last and only time i want.
I remember the batting cage??? Lol that was fun. The toy shop too.
Forgot which shoe store. I think foot locker and finish line.
Thanks for this video. I gotta say I am kinda obsessed with this now ( I worked for years in an abandoned truck depot for a major retailer) . Sure would love a tour.
Yea I'd like a tour as well. Someone on my Instagram who claims they work for rackspace said they could possibly set me up with a tour. Still waiting on what they say
Commerce St Records, Underground Music, Doc Holliday Productions, Urban City, Aladdin’s Castle, and Very Unique were located in this mall.
Cool video! I went to the grand opening...I was 12! My mom worked at Montgomery Wards for years and my sister worked at Joskes. Too bad it's gone. And now I hear Rackspace is leaving too. I wonder what Windcrest will make of it? I think they should do a huge indoor park with skating, games, movies, & food!
I still remember right next to that mall was a Walmart which closed sometime in the early 2000s which turned into a flea market which is now a goodwill you can see at 8:42
Thanks, this was a lot of work to put together. I appreciate the memories. So many pizza slices at Luca’s, so many movies at the UA Cine Cinco, so many wonderful shopping and hang out days with my my mom and sisters; and later on, my high school friends. One fact check I have is on the renovation that took place in the 80s. I seem to recall that the new tiling and modernization of the color scheme (from the oranges and wood tones of the 70s to neutral 80s colors) happened around 1986. Was that strictly the new Mervyn’s wing, with later updates occurring over the following years? I started working at Rolling Oaks in 1989 and may be misremembering- but I thought Windsor completed its renovations before Rolling Oaks was built.
I'm not sure exactly when the renovations were done since I wasnt even alive in the 80s lol but from what I read was that around the time rolling oaks was being built, windsor park mall renovated their interior. Photos are scarce of this mall so I used what I could. I actually have a photo of the mall from the late 70s/early 80s with the orange color schemes that I included in the before/after shots of the Inside of the mall. Thanks for watching!
Ah, Luca's Pizza.
Good videos brother 👍
I think 1999 was the last time we went, we walked in for 2 minutes and heard gun shots… Thats the only memory I have. I remember Mervyn’s and I think the food court had ICEE’s. I was so young. I remember alot of beautiful girls… I helped do construction cleanup when rackspace took over
I worked at Rackspace, and I am not sure about post Covid, but non-employees used to be able to take a tour.
Is that right? I wonder who I'd have to talk to to get a tour..
Wow, that's too bad. I remember going to Windsor Park Mall when I visited my brother who lived not far from the mall. It was unique from the other malls. The atmosphere was more laid-back and relaxing.
This was the first dead mall I saw in person.
Thanks for this video! I grew up near Windsor Park Mall, but my memories of it are so hazy. I remember going to it sometimes when I was a new and nervous driver because it was the most convenient mall. I'd walk around for a little bit, wishing it was still a decent place to shop, and then leave. 😂
I'm surprised you didn't mention it being used as a shelter for Hurricane Katrina evacuees just days after the mall's closing.
Yes, I remember that! My family took donation items. My parents (reverend& missionary) were there for spiritual&mental counseling, helping contact old pastors for church birth records so victims could recieve fed help.
Thank u for doing this story on the mall ..a lot of people are not familiar with this mall but I fam. I did years of Christmas shopping there. And lots of pictures with San ta Claus for my kids. It is true though how it all went downhill, especially with crime. I remember being at the bus stop and a man was there with a new fesh pizza he was taking hime to surprise his children with, however..some young males jumped him and took his pizza and ate it on the spot! When I asked why they did that, they said, because they were hungry and laughed. I wish malls could make a come back, I wish people could keep their hands off others, but it wont happen. Its safer now just to shop on amazon and stay home. It is not 1986 anymore...
One of my childhood favorite movies had scenes filmed here. The Atari computer store was in here but they had carpet back then.
I remember interviewing at Rackspace. They took me to the "Donkey Kong" room, lol. Very interesting place and experience! I had a number of friends that worked there over the years and had great experiences, but by some miracle I dodged a bullet and didn't get hired. They had their downhill trend start right around that time.
As a Theodore Roosevelt High School Graduate of 2022 I had no idea that used to be a shopping mall
@chubb.e.cheese5954 yea it closed when you were just a baby
I’ve totally driven by the place and wondered what it was.
I used to shop there but, gangs from northeast side took over. It's a shame that mall was so nice 😔
16:36 JCPenny also had a cafeteria inside the store.
I remember when that was a brand new sparkling jewel in San Antonio. I enjoyed going there and having eats and drinks at Chelsea Street Pub after shopping at al the different stores. I know economics and shopping patterns caused changes and added to the decline in mall attendance. However, I can tell you that the "Thuggery" and the little punks that began hanging out in Windsor Park Mall is what stopped me from going there, and I was a policeman. Bexar County Sheriff's department even opened up a satellite office in an attempt to stop the little gangbangers from destroying the place but even that was not enough to make people feel safe. When you talk about urban decline, a lot has to do with certain elements within the neighboring population and it's effect. This is a prime example of decay caused by street hoodlums and crime. A once thriving business and employment opportunity for many people living around the mall was destroyed by Thugs and not the law enforcement that responded to all those criminal incidents. This is a great example of what the outcome for America will be for those who believe in the lunacy of De-Funding the Police. You put together a very good video of what once was and what it turned into. BTW: I thought a company like Rack-Space would have far better looking offices, it's kind of a bleak and dismal looking working environment. Hopefully they use that money the save to pay there employees really well?
Ahhhhh….Chelsea Street Pub!!! Some of the best times I barely remember were spent there. Also, my almost daily devouring of their heaping cheese covered nachos most likely contributed to some of the health issues I’m dealing with today.😬 so many glorious memories I have of the Mall. Life was so simple back them….🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I once read an article about why Windsor died. The main point was "changing demographics of the area", nuff said.
I had my first Whataburger at Windsor Park Mall in 1982. Aren’t you excited? 😜
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My wife fell from the top floor of that mall when she was a kid.
My dad had his car (Pontiac Bonneville )stolen in broad daylight in front of JCPenney’s 1989. Awesome mall in the early 80’s ( most people who live in San Antonio no exactly why this mall failed)
My mom worked at that mall!
Bought a Dean guitar in a music instrument store but can't remember name. Is there any info or directory available?
Dacbert Music Plaza?
I believe rackspace left the location to move somewhere in the northside. I wonder what Windcrest is planning to do with the building.
Wow, really?! That's wild. The city should just demolish and sell at this point. I know they got fleeced out of $8mil by a former mayor and his brother that was supposed to develop work/play/live spaces to accomodate the Rackspace crew.
Do you remember the old cd and cassette music store was right next to Wendy’s and bathrooms were right there too I think they were on the 2nd floor next to Montgomery ward
They just announced rackspace is moving out. May be a good time to look into that, and or south after thry go
Yea I just heard! I'm gonna have to check it out when its abandoned now
My dad worked on the mall, we went to walk thru it. As we were walking towards the mall a cop was chasing a blk dude who had clothes under his arm. Dude had a big afro, bell bottom pants and black platform shoes. My dad said, 'this place wont last'...he was right
The writing on Windsor Mall was clear at the expansion of corporate development versus the aging residential areas of the area. Coupled with an unfortunate high crime rate area, the mall was sandwiched between Crossroads Mall (also now dead) to the north and the military communities of Lackland/Kelly AFB to the south containing their own shopping areas at the Base Exchanges. With the westside development, new shopping areas are cropping up with specialy stores and more conveniently located to new residential areas minus the crime rate.
Pretty sure the Forums shopping area killed it. Once the Fourm shops opened there was no real reason to drive to Walzem.
North Star was a more high end version of wpm and closer than crossroads
I was supposed to meet a friend at that bus stop that very day, but as usual I was running late. Ms Grant slumped over onto my friend....that would've been me😔✝️those in charge of security long ignored the need for a larger presence on the premises in hopes to sell up cos by then everyone had run screaming to Rolling Oaks where no buses ran.
Hey bro love the video I’m from San Antonio to you ever thought on doing a video on the wonderland mall that’s the last 90s mall still going
I havent thought about that one...perhaps one day
Hope so it’s at its worst right now with just the hobby lobby, Ross and Burlington keeping it alive
@@titan8611 I beg to differ. There are many Dr offices downstairs that is keeping the mall alive along with the flea market. At this point, I don't even consider it a mall anymore
That's not a 90s mall. It was built well before the 90s, in 1961.
I have a special memory of Windsor Park Mall. My grandparents lived in San Antonio, and every Christmas break my family would visit them from out of state. But they lived on the opposite side of the city, so we only went to Windsor Park, once. December 1982, to see the movie, The Dark Crystal. It was a magical moment in my childhood.
My mom always told me about this place n told me it shut down bc of violence… I wish I could’ve appearance it :/
I am unable to find out the name of the mall (was Said) to house the current Alamo City Fellowship church on i35 .
I really would love to know and see pictures of it in it's day. I feel like that is not a google search but something where you have to know someone older who was there.
From what I've heard, it was an outlet mall that barely existed before shutting down. I'd be interested to know more about it too, but there probably isn't much information about it if was really so short lived.
I remember my mom and dad having a major fight (my dad's fault) My dad took us to this mall in 1999 where he bought us pizza and bought me Qui Gon Jinn's lightsaber and my brother he bought Obiwan Kenobi's. (its been 30 years he made good on his promises and he and my mom have together for more than 30 years.)
This is why I hate san antonio. Nothing ever lasts here. You go to Dallas and other cities and thier malls are always busy 😢
Windsor park mall and Walzem road used to be so awesome it was the place to go now the mall is closed and Walzem is dirty and full of crime
Skate life was epic there
My apologies -- my comment was geared towards Ingram Park Mall --
Just seeing this. I believe also that in 2005, after Hurricane Katrina, it was used as a mass shelter.
@@christinescott5002 that is correct
@@thesaexplorer my mom opened the sears in both Ingram park mall and rolling oaks. I will see if I can find photos of it and will keep you posted. Thank you for this video.
@christinescott5002 that's awesome! My mom worked at sears at rolling oaks in the late 90s. If you have an instagram, you can follow me on there and send whatever photos you have there
@@thesaexplorer will do!! Wonder if our moms knew each other. Sadly my mom has passed. She worked in accounting.
@@thesaexplorer and I continued the sears legacy working there as well. Great to get good concert seats!! In the better days before Ticketmaster became ticketbastard.
Remember when it was a ranch
…..as do I…..And Walzem Rd was a little two way back road that led you to Windcrest. Now, that whole area looks so run down. Progress…..I guess???? 🤔
Outdoor malls like the rim and La cantera Is putting malls like this are the business in America.
Sad that we all stay home, don't talk in person, get fat and dumb, because of the new world order crap. I miss people.😧
The decline of malls throughout the country coincides with the internet & online shopping.
Too many mall rats not buying anything, is what happened to this mall!
Mainly crime and the decline of big box stores because of Amazon
I didn't move to San Antonio until 2004 so thd Windsor park mall was dying out. I did live along Walzem road for many years. We don't live there anymore and don't plan to live east of downtown ever again. Bad place to live.
It used to be "the good side" of town.
rackspace sucks
Good to know
Did not know about the killings at the mall but sad to hear but typical of meskins not going toe to toe but wanna pull guns
I have a feeling it was the blixes people.
Wrong peeps
Rolling oaks is next.