👀 And add this to your "Watch Later" list: ruclips.net/video/lzjmPmfLB-o/видео.html It's an awesome 2-hour chat about Steam Deck featuring me, The Linux Experiment, Gaming on Linux and Gardiner Bryant!
To people freaking out about this: Valve has built this as an open PC, and I plan to inform people about ALL aspects of it, not just SteamOS. Do I believe SteamOS will be the best experience by far? YEP. But people will be curious about installing Windows for certain games or software, and they deserve to know what to expect.
github com wabulu Single-GPU-passthrough-amd-nvidia QEMU KVM one gpu pass through. If you (or Valve or any other) adapt it to RDNA2 and other MS WOS drivers it would be much better than dual booting when needed, it also would allow to have a Manjaro OS installed for productivity.
I really don't understand the gatekeeping mentality about this. If people want to put windows on it, who gives a shit? That has no impact on YOU. I appreciate you showing all aspects of the deck, even some that may rattle feathers of a few select people.
Once both mature Windows offers the most flexibility and back catalogue. I plan to daily drive Windows on it almost exclusively. I can install Playnite and configure if i want an easier interface to navigate just my games.
@@mitcoes With the deck's specs, I'm not sure if I can agree with that. RAM is fine, you can just give Windows around 12GB or 14GB at most which is enough for now, but I don't think there are enough cores to go around. Really cool idea (You could definitely add a script as a non-steam title so Windows would load like an app) but spec wise I think you'd lose more performance than you would want out of it. I think Destiny 2 would be fine this way since it's older, but if a much newer game out there requires anti-cheat that doesn't work with Proton, it probably won't be worth it.
A guide to install and boot windows from an SD card would be nice. I don't want to delete SteamOS. Windows drivers are provided as is with no long term support compared with the default Deck OS. Also please test Elden Ring Stutter SteamOS vs Windows. Since Valve said they released fixes
Don't give to much attention to the idle memory consumption. If enough memory is available, windows starts to load much more stuff into the memory. But it frees it immediately if needed.
@@MisticDW Think its going to be the other way around with verified games... with proton on Linux ( currently use Fedora 35) with platinum rated games on protondb most the time proton edges out windows for me.. I have tested a great many games on both and that has been my expirence and I think it has tons to do with the shaders cause most games you download on steam comes with shaders precompiled and some reason I think thats whats has given me the edge.. maybe wrong idk but will bet fully supported games on SteamOS/Linux edges windows out because even DirectX has to compile shaders on windows even though you never notice unless you look at fps. The recent Elden Ring shader update on SteamOS/Linux speaks volumes to this fact as the game hardly stutters for me on Linux and get about 10 more FPS on my rig over windows
That's cool to hear, I appreciate it. This was the only sensible way for me to keep doing movies. No more "super-produced" stuff. Just down to earth, leave in the mistakes, be real, and spend the time making more content.
With good drivers and a few tweaks I'm almost sure windows can be jumping between 0 and 1% on lowest clocks. Also with something like tiny windows custom installation with crapware removed windows can even go to around half a GB or less on memory usage, but it's better to do it to like 1.5 to 2GB or will be too stripped with nothing in it 🙂
it's downloaded and I've played a match or two! I just can't figure out how to use the actual Steam Deck controls. Something with Battle.net is blocking them.
So far Windows 10 is running pretty good on the Deck which is pretty surprising. I thought there might be more rough patches then what is shown so far. Yeah I know it is still in the Early stages so anything can happen.
How are you finding windows on the deck? I am using it but feel it's a double edged sword. I mod a lot of my games and that was the main reason. But if someone prefers a console type experience then steam os looks better for those users. Installing games on SD card on windows is so much slower allocating space IMO.
Dont worry about 3.2 Gb memory in use. Windows is super effective to use memory and very good optimise. I have done test long time ago with my Windows 10 that take 14Gb/16GB with the running apps in background and when I start Big game no issue at all.
This is actually genius in all levels. I mean, given that the Steam Deck is a PC, dock it, you have a portable workstation that can do anything you want with it.
You can use it as a workstation without installing Windows! SteamOS has a desktop mode that I used to record, edit and produce a 2 hour video podcast! (see our last video)
Not specific to the use of windows but I wonder: On SteamOS desktop, Can you install packages besides flatpack inside home, without getting them lost with an OS update, through the use of methods such as: - chroot - mount - etc... By yourself? I was thinking maybe making some specific mounts towards your home and install something like buildah, then use that to assist so everything is installed inside the home. Then, inside a buildah container, installing whatever apps without containerization (using --privileged or x11docker).
It's the fact that the steam deck is better than my school laptop :/ maybe my school would allow me to use the steam deck 👀 I'd just have to take a keyboard with me
I Understand how install windows but I was wondering how to download the extra steam os windows drivers and where to upload them once windows is up ? Video please? Thanks awesome content.
Wonder how this would handle certain cross-gen games. This would also mean that certain games like Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade can be looked at, and you'll at least have a better handheld version of Kingdom Hearts III than the official Nintendo Switch release.
I'm really curious about the steam deck ui thing availability on windows 10 deck. This would probably bring the same original vanilla experience of the steam deck (which is awesome) but on windows, meaning more games compatibility like destiny 2 which has the anti cheat working only on windows pretty much
I was expecting this and how games run in windows 10. I want to buy the steam deck but i don't want any overly complicated operative system nor a big picture mode turned into an operative system
Hi there question I'm having issues trying to connect my tv to steam deck on Windows 10 my tv is a Samsung 6 series 49 it comes up connecting to tv nothing happens hits allow still nothing any help would be appreciated.
One thing i ask for is to be 100% honest and not fanboyish for real bench some of the top games people are actually playing and compare that is all we want to see. Talking from a Windows gamer perspective. BTW a LOT of people want this for Gamepass and NOTHING more.
I was wondering if Steam Deck/SteamOS tracks playtime of games, even when Steam Deck is offline. I feel like that is important for a handheld device. Care to solve this for me?
@@madjunir Yeah, I know how it works on normal Steam. It's just that turning off Wi-Fi could save some battery, and not to mention that there are a lot of situations where internet connection isn't available. I would like to have my progress tracked without need of it.
The screen was actually rotated on Linux as well but Valve added a change regarding this exact screen into the kernel to be rotated back by default to correct it. Windows however does not do this.
@@TheJackiMonster you misunderstood me. I was surprised to learn that the hardware is rotated by design. I mean it changes nothing for me, but interesting decision. Now I need to know which way is natural down on that screen, according to vertical refresh?
@@LinuxRenaissance That's because smaller screens are portrait by default because mobile devices prioritize that. Natural down should be easy to tell if you look at the screenshot in the video of the Windows installer. So natural down is going left to right when holding the Deck properly.
As a windows user since a kid on Windows XP. I don't get the pitch fight. Yeah, Windows is the market leader, comes installed with everything. But, it's kind of for a reason. There hasn't been a true competitor to Windows. Yes, there are Linux distros that have a windows feel, even steamOS but, even with that, a normal computer user just wants simplicity. Trust me, as someone who does IT in a corporate setting, if companies could use Linux most would to lower costs. But A) Applications/Features you expect won't work or B) It would cause more technical support. Now, with proton that barrier to entry is almost their. But, as a gamer I want my Fortnite's and my Gamepass/other launchers that aren't on Linux. Plus, if there's an issue, I know my way around. I'll be dualbooting when the chance comes by and the deck is in my hands. I like what both OS's have to offer.
It's just about familiarity I guess, I used windows since I was a kid up until I was 20 but I never really unerstood or liked it. I didn't even know about Linux but when I casually discovered it, it felt suddenly familiar and intuitive. For me windows was blindly following random guides w/o understanding what I do, with Linux I see what's going on under the hood and it helps me understand what I do and why. Still today whwnever I use windows I feel lost and I can't really do much with it
Of course Valve is not supporting it. Steam OS equals Steam game sales. They are selling the Deck at a loss for selling more games. Leaving mine on Steam OS, but would get another deck just for windows and use mainly as mini PC and portable backup.
nice video, in surprise that Windows detect the touchpads and have good haptics calibration out of the box. just wanna say: even if Valve (in a future) support Windows 10 and 11, you SHOULD NOT install windows for daily purpose (i know is an open PC), look the task manager, literally almost 5gb of ram wasted on idle and battery runs like crazy with all that sub-process, probably good option (in the future) to instal windows on SD card, and play in there games like, Destiny or Lost Ark, or other games that ain't fully compatible with SteamOS, overall SteamOS is an optimized OS and friendly UI design specifically for the Deck, without mention that SteamOS drain SO MUCH less power, some kind of dark magic happens there (just kidding, is just a well Linux systems thats all)
I'm seeing a few people comparing games on Steam deck running Steam OS then Windows. Once the Windows OS is installed and all relevant drivers installed, some games are showing 10fps boost on Windows over Steam OS. Along as the battery slider on Windows is set to max performance. Very interesting. Definately looks like Windows is the way to go tonplay on Steam OS for better performance.
Idle RAM in windows is hard to judge, The more RAM you have the more Windows will use for caching, I've noticed the same thing with Android, I went from an 8GB phone to a 12GB phone
11 would actually be better for the deck because of its form factor and Microsoft's emphasis on touch screen configurations. I don't think the installer has to be modified, there's a registry key somewhere you can add that'll bypass TPM within the installer.
It doesn't need tpm bypass I think it works without it on steamdeck the reason I think this is because the steam deck windows drivers are for windows 11 on the download link it says so
I didn't know people were that paranoid about windows lol. I love what steam os is doing but, the games that I want to play (mainly online) won't work with it. So dualbooting when that releases is the only option. As an IT guy, I use windows everyday so, I don't get why people treat it like Voldemort.
@@JustCliff Not paranoid, just experienced, as an IT guy myself of 30+ years. Up to Windows 7 I loved it, but not anymore with the newer versions. Also, as much as I dislike Windows, I have one VM for a few bits, and I keep myself up to date with the OS to help others.
@@foznoth I'm in IT as well but, as a new trainee. I get what you're saying. I've been using windows since a kid with XP. The only one that I didn't like was 8. They weren't on the ball all the way. 10 did fixed all of those concerns. And 11 is just more of the same but, requires a Microsoft account and tpm.
Just Imagine! Connect a monitor, a keyboard, and a mouse, then bam! a $400, $530 or $650 PC! (without the keyboard mouse and monitor lol, sorry) -Maybe suffer some problems and some you cannot deal with too!-
If a lot of people start using Windows on this, companies like Bungie and Epic will use that as an excuse for not allowing anti-cheat to work on the native SteamOS. Please people just Install Windows to satisfy your morbid curiosity, but try to stick with SteamOS so game developers can't have an excuse for not giving proper support.
exactly... the Steam deck needs to make games that don't use these tools popular because they are on the deck and those games that do use these tools will soon change
I also want to see SteamOS get more support from bigger companies but it shouldn't be on the customer to entice companies to support a specific platform/OS. If a game that I enjoy doesn't work on SteamOS, I'm not going to sit around waiting for devs to get it to work. I'm either going to install Windows where I know it works or simply not buy the Steam Deck. If Valve wants more people to support the Steam Deck then they have to entice devs to make their games work on their console, simple as that
@@basshead. Except that's not the case ruclips.net/video/hASwql4t9lA/видео.html These are comparisons of an RDNA2 GPU and Zen 3 processor running the same games on Linux and Windows. The recent comparisons are using performance updates added to Linux by Valve and Collobora (where it says kernel 5.16). The same updates will be in SteamOS 3.0. Performance is going to be very similar sometimes better on Linux sometimes better on Windows. EG Elden RIng and CyberPunk runs better on Linux than it does on WIndows. The most recent Forza is maybe 8% quicker on Windows. Swings and roundbouts.
@@LinuxRenaissance We're not talking about you, as an individual or otherwise. The comment is about this channel, a channel for Linux, doing Windows content.
👀 And add this to your "Watch Later" list: ruclips.net/video/lzjmPmfLB-o/видео.html
It's an awesome 2-hour chat about Steam Deck featuring me, The Linux Experiment, Gaming on Linux and Gardiner Bryant!
To people freaking out about this: Valve has built this as an open PC, and I plan to inform people about ALL aspects of it, not just SteamOS. Do I believe SteamOS will be the best experience by far? YEP. But people will be curious about installing Windows for certain games or software, and they deserve to know what to expect.
Big man question though: how does it run FreeBSD?
github com wabulu Single-GPU-passthrough-amd-nvidia QEMU KVM one gpu pass through. If you (or Valve or any other) adapt it to RDNA2 and other MS WOS drivers it would be much better than dual booting when needed, it also would allow to have a Manjaro OS installed for productivity.
I really don't understand the gatekeeping mentality about this. If people want to put windows on it, who gives a shit? That has no impact on YOU. I appreciate you showing all aspects of the deck, even some that may rattle feathers of a few select people.
Once both mature Windows offers the most flexibility and back catalogue. I plan to daily drive Windows on it almost exclusively. I can install Playnite and configure if i want an easier interface to navigate just my games.
@@mitcoes With the deck's specs, I'm not sure if I can agree with that. RAM is fine, you can just give Windows around 12GB or 14GB at most which is enough for now, but I don't think there are enough cores to go around. Really cool idea (You could definitely add a script as a non-steam title so Windows would load like an app) but spec wise I think you'd lose more performance than you would want out of it. I think Destiny 2 would be fine this way since it's older, but if a much newer game out there requires anti-cheat that doesn't work with Proton, it probably won't be worth it.
A guide to install and boot windows from an SD card would be nice. I don't want to delete SteamOS. Windows drivers are provided as is with no long term support compared with the default Deck OS.
Also please test Elden Ring Stutter SteamOS vs Windows. Since Valve said they released fixes
can you use both yeah? thats crazy
Yesh you can search for windows go and just install it with rufus on your sd card
If you don't want to install Windows, maybe you install a VM.
@@woppo1408 the people who has a terabyte or more ssd and who want to play the multiplayer games that don't run on linux because of anticheat
Windows sucks with sd cards
Awesome! When dual boot becomes possible, I'll probably use it to get over the hurdle of getting unsupported games to work. Thanks for the content!
Nice! I'm really curious to see how well the Steamdeck performs, as a docked PC.
Don't give to much attention to the idle memory consumption. If enough memory is available, windows starts to load much more stuff into the memory. But it frees it immediately if needed.
not what ive seen in my pc
I'm excited to watch the OS comparison with games.
I plan on keeping my Steam Deck using SteamOS.
Thanks, can't wait to show ya!
I'm hoping that games on Windows perform as well as on SteamOS. That way we wouldn't have to worry too much about compatibility.
@@davidheisnam743 I think it's going to be back and forth with Windows edging the win but we'll see
@@MisticDW Think its going to be the other way around with verified games... with proton on Linux ( currently use Fedora 35) with platinum rated games on protondb most the time proton edges out windows for me.. I have tested a great many games on both and that has been my expirence and I think it has tons to do with the shaders cause most games you download on steam comes with shaders precompiled and some reason I think thats whats has given me the edge.. maybe wrong idk but will bet fully supported games on SteamOS/Linux edges windows out because even DirectX has to compile shaders on windows even though you never notice unless you look at fps. The recent Elden Ring shader update on SteamOS/Linux speaks volumes to this fact as the game hardly stutters for me on Linux and get about 10 more FPS on my rig over windows
Really loving the casual content.
That's cool to hear, I appreciate it.
This was the only sensible way for me to keep doing movies. No more "super-produced" stuff. Just down to earth, leave in the mistakes, be real, and spend the time making more content.
With good drivers and a few tweaks I'm almost sure windows can be jumping between 0 and 1% on lowest clocks.
Also with something like tiny windows custom installation with crapware removed windows can even go to around half a GB or less on memory usage, but it's better to do it to like 1.5 to 2GB or will be too stripped with nothing in it 🙂
Please when dual-boot is officially supported by Valve let us know!! Keep up the awesome work.
I promise to.
@@LinuxForEveryone i know you get a lot of request, but if you can please test warzone on windows 10!
it's downloaded and I've played a match or two! I just can't figure out how to use the actual Steam Deck controls. Something with Battle.net is blocking them.
@@LinuxForEveryone thats really weird, hope theres a fix for it! and thanks for the reply :D
great video, thanks. Also, we'd love to see a dual boot with popOS and win10 pro for workstation in the future. More power to your channel..
So far Windows 10 is running pretty good on the Deck which is pretty surprising. I thought there might be more rough patches then what is shown so far. Yeah I know it is still in the Early stages so anything can happen.
How are you finding windows on the deck? I am using it but feel it's a double edged sword. I mod a lot of my games and that was the main reason. But if someone prefers a console type experience then steam os looks better for those users. Installing games on SD card on windows is so much slower allocating space IMO.
Dont worry about 3.2 Gb memory in use. Windows is super effective to use memory and very good optimise. I have done test long time ago with my Windows 10 that take 14Gb/16GB with the running apps in background and when I start Big game no issue at all.
usually I watch videos where people are trying to Linux on some hardware... this is weird 😆
HAHAHAHAHAHA I laughed pretty hard at this...
This is actually genius in all levels. I mean, given that the Steam Deck is a PC, dock it, you have a portable workstation that can do anything you want with it.
You can use it as a workstation without installing Windows! SteamOS has a desktop mode that I used to record, edit and produce a 2 hour video podcast! (see our last video)
Not specific to the use of windows but I wonder:
On SteamOS desktop,
Can you install packages besides flatpack inside home, without getting them lost with an OS update, through the use of methods such as:
- chroot
- mount
- etc...
By yourself?
I was thinking maybe making some specific mounts towards your home and install something like buildah, then use that to assist so everything is installed inside the home.
Then, inside a buildah container, installing whatever apps without containerization (using --privileged or x11docker).
I'd love to see battery life benchmarks and optimization
Someone said the battery life is the same.
It's the fact that the steam deck is better than my school laptop :/ maybe my school would allow me to use the steam deck 👀 I'd just have to take a keyboard with me
This is a great review! just to the point without being a long video.
thanks, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't call it a review. Just a brief, informative video.
Maybe you can try modern warfare multiplayer now that you have windows? 🤞🏼
I Understand how install windows but I was wondering how to download the extra steam os windows drivers and where to upload them once windows is up ? Video please? Thanks awesome content.
But can you install any OS? What arquitecture does it use?
Maybe Kali Linux would be interesting.
Like you said I want to see epic games, destiny 2 and microsoft games.
I keep pressing the three button and nothing happens can you be more specific
do you plan on posting some benchmark comparisons between windows and steam os?
Wonder how this would handle certain cross-gen games. This would also mean that certain games like Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade can be looked at, and you'll at least have a better handheld version of Kingdom Hearts III than the official Nintendo Switch release.
I'm really curious about the steam deck ui thing availability on windows 10 deck. This would probably bring the same original vanilla experience of the steam deck (which is awesome) but on windows, meaning more games compatibility like destiny 2 which has the anti cheat working only on windows pretty much
I think it says its always charging so windows doesnt enable any battery saving features meant for laptops that would ruin gaming performance
If Windows is Running, We Can Install and Play Valorant, If We Can Use Keyboard and Mouse.
I was expecting this and how games run in windows 10. I want to buy the steam deck but i don't want any overly complicated operative system nor a big picture mode turned into an operative system
i’ll give you a kiss if you load up Valorant, i wanna see the performance, cuz i’ll straight up sell my laptop and buy this if it’s fine
Do you promise not to make fun of me if I completely suck at it? :D
@@LinuxForEveryone i promise, don’t worry, mwah mwah
Will this run of micro Sd, not really interested in dual booting
Also interested. I prefer to keep SteamOS and try windows from SD card, specially since Windows drivers are provided as is with no long term support
Please compare battery life
Hi there question I'm having issues trying to connect my tv to steam deck on Windows 10 my tv is a Samsung 6 series 49 it comes up connecting to tv nothing happens hits allow still nothing any help would be appreciated.
One thing i ask for is to be 100% honest and not fanboyish for real bench some of the top games people are actually playing and compare that is all we want to see. Talking from a Windows gamer perspective. BTW a LOT of people want this for Gamepass and NOTHING more.
I'll take your comment to heart, thanks JD.
Doing this to play games that actively dont support steamos, which i shouldn't do but i cant live without them.
I was wondering if Steam Deck/SteamOS tracks playtime of games, even when Steam Deck is offline. I feel like that is important for a handheld device. Care to solve this for me?
It's probably the same system Steam has always used. I don't believe it has been updated. You can try yourself by staying offline while playing a game
@@madjunir Yeah, I know how it works on normal Steam. It's just that turning off Wi-Fi could save some battery, and not to mention that there are a lot of situations where internet connection isn't available. I would like to have my progress tracked without need of it.
I think that a cool thing you can try is to install adobe's creative cloud apps and try to make the next video on it
I didn't expect the screen to be 90 degrees rotated.
The screen was actually rotated on Linux as well but Valve added a change regarding this exact screen into the kernel to be rotated back by default to correct it. Windows however does not do this.
@@TheJackiMonster you misunderstood me. I was surprised to learn that the hardware is rotated by design. I mean it changes nothing for me, but interesting decision. Now I need to know which way is natural down on that screen, according to vertical refresh?
@@LinuxRenaissance That's because smaller screens are portrait by default because mobile devices prioritize that. Natural down should be easy to tell if you look at the screenshot in the video of the Windows installer. So natural down is going left to right when holding the Deck properly.
As a windows user since a kid on Windows XP. I don't get the pitch fight. Yeah, Windows is the market leader, comes installed with everything. But, it's kind of for a reason. There hasn't been a true competitor to Windows. Yes, there are Linux distros that have a windows feel, even steamOS but, even with that, a normal computer user just wants simplicity. Trust me, as someone who does IT in a corporate setting, if companies could use Linux most would to lower costs. But A) Applications/Features you expect won't work or B) It would cause more technical support. Now, with proton that barrier to entry is almost their. But, as a gamer I want my Fortnite's and my Gamepass/other launchers that aren't on Linux. Plus, if there's an issue, I know my way around. I'll be dualbooting when the chance comes by and the deck is in my hands. I like what both OS's have to offer.
It's just about familiarity I guess, I used windows since I was a kid up until I was 20 but I never really unerstood or liked it. I didn't even know about Linux but when I casually discovered it, it felt suddenly familiar and intuitive. For me windows was blindly following random guides w/o understanding what I do, with Linux I see what's going on under the hood and it helps me understand what I do and why. Still today whwnever I use windows I feel lost and I can't really do much with it
Can you test the battery life with windows ? Take the best game you have and test it plz
This is everything i wanted😍😍😍😍
bhai India me to milega bhi nahi Steam deck abhi...
Maybe when we can unlock windows from locked 15watts to 25watts in windows it’ll match steamos performance.
Please see previous replies to comments like these. I'm guessing you came here from ETA Prime, and he's simply wrong about TDP.
Are you able to run Steam on Windows? I get the steamui.dll error
Yep, it's running fine here. About to benchmark Forza.
This is a really strange request but I would love to see a program like Fusion360 running on it in Windows.
Of course Valve is not supporting it. Steam OS equals Steam game sales. They are selling the Deck at a loss for selling more games. Leaving mine on Steam OS, but would get another deck just for windows and use mainly as mini PC and portable backup.
how would you switch back to steamOS after booting into windows?
we need just a comparation OS vs OS on one or 2 games, battery life etc.
I can tell you without question SteamOS will win the battery life battle.
What is the specs of steam deck? Is it based on amd APU? 👀
Specs are at steamdeck.com
It's a custom "Aerith" AMD APU
@@LinuxForEveryone hey thank you sir👽
nice video, in surprise that Windows detect the touchpads and have good haptics calibration out of the box.
just wanna say: even if Valve (in a future) support Windows 10 and 11, you SHOULD NOT install windows for daily purpose (i know is an open PC), look the task manager, literally almost 5gb of ram wasted on idle and battery runs like crazy with all that sub-process, probably good option (in the future) to instal windows on SD card, and play in there games like, Destiny or Lost Ark, or other games that ain't fully compatible with SteamOS, overall SteamOS is an optimized OS and friendly UI design specifically for the Deck, without mention that SteamOS drain SO MUCH less power, some kind of dark magic happens there (just kidding, is just a well Linux systems thats all)
He said 3gb ram on idle and we all saw it. Don't know where you saw 5gb you were mentioning.
The battery thing is really annoying, it happens with my Linux install on a Lenovo Ideapad.
I would love to see time spy and fire strike scores and how it compares with ryzen 6900hs apu
dual boot ? install sd card ?
I'm seeing a few people comparing games on Steam deck running Steam OS then Windows. Once the Windows OS is installed and all relevant drivers installed, some games are showing 10fps boost on Windows over Steam OS.
Along as the battery slider on Windows is set to max performance.
Very interesting.
Definately looks like Windows is the way to go tonplay on Steam OS for better performance.
Can you touchscreen on window 10?
Idle RAM in windows is hard to judge, The more RAM you have the more Windows will use for caching, I've noticed the same thing with Android, I went from an 8GB phone to a 12GB phone
Linux can do similar stuff, idle RAM is pretty much irrelevant as a metric
People will install Windows to run on max performance o gain 10 fps boost, have a crappy battery life, awful UX, and then, complain about the device.
Some people might, but most won't.
Try installing modified version of windows 11 that doesn't require TPM, see how that works. I think it'll work perfectly.
11 would actually be better for the deck because of its form factor and Microsoft's emphasis on touch screen configurations. I don't think the installer has to be modified, there's a registry key somewhere you can add that'll bypass TPM within the installer.
It doesn't need tpm bypass I think it works without it on steamdeck the reason I think this is because the steam deck windows drivers are for windows 11 on the download link it says so
Can you please see if you can code in steam deck
Steam Deck is an amazing piece of hardware, it is a shame that I can't order one from my country (México)
you are miles away from the us at least, in brazil i need to get a ticket there to get one
Would like to see if u can run Dead By Daylight on windows 🙂
how ab Steam Deck w keyboard and daily work like office?
I recorded, edited and produced this entire video on Steam Deck's Desktop Mode:
ruclips.net/video/lzjmPmfLB-o/видео.html
Won't be the boat I'm sailing with my deck. More powers to those who do, I guess.
SteamOS will be the better experience by far. But I like that people have options.
why not windows 11?
Currently has some issues so maybe later for that one.
what's the battery life like??
This will take time, but I'll get to it!
An Apple keyboard for a computer running Windows?! :O
I also use it with SteamOS in desktop mode. It's really portable and great to type on!
@@LinuxForEveryone That I can attest to, having had one myself.
i want your stteam deck wallpaper!!!
Wish granted. Have them all: 1drv.ms/u/s!AgswBHNip4B_nOZ8Zh0dHEhVrzDXpg?e=HQCcc5
Could you install chrome OS or android x86 on a steam deck and test some popular android games?
I wanted a video with w11 whit Android Windows Subsystem.
Windows 11 is completely impossible until Valve sends a firmware update.
@@LinuxForEveryone You can bypass the TPM check btw
Thank you for your sacrifice, so that others don't have to install 'IT' to try it out. Windows isn't coming anywhere near my Steam Deck.
I didn't know people were that paranoid about windows lol. I love what steam os is doing but, the games that I want to play (mainly online) won't work with it. So dualbooting when that releases is the only option. As an IT guy, I use windows everyday so, I don't get why people treat it like Voldemort.
@@JustCliff Not paranoid, just experienced, as an IT guy myself of 30+ years. Up to Windows 7 I loved it, but not anymore with the newer versions. Also, as much as I dislike Windows, I have one VM for a few bits, and I keep myself up to date with the OS to help others.
@@foznoth I'm in IT as well but, as a new trainee. I get what you're saying. I've been using windows since a kid with XP. The only one that I didn't like was 8. They weren't on the ball all the way. 10 did fixed all of those concerns. And 11 is just more of the same but, requires a Microsoft account and tpm.
Just Imagine! Connect a monitor, a keyboard, and a mouse, then bam! a $400, $530 or $650 PC! (without the keyboard mouse and monitor lol, sorry)
-Maybe suffer some problems and some you cannot deal with too!-
can you try warzone please
Absolutely.
Prove it
If a lot of people start using Windows on this, companies like Bungie and Epic will use that as an excuse for not allowing anti-cheat to work on the native SteamOS. Please people just Install Windows to satisfy your morbid curiosity, but try to stick with SteamOS so game developers can't have an excuse for not giving proper support.
exactly... the Steam deck needs to make games that don't use these tools popular because they are on the deck and those games that do use these tools will soon change
Nah, there's no way for them to know that statistic. If they want to get anti-cheat to work they'll do it.
I also want to see SteamOS get more support from bigger companies but it shouldn't be on the customer to entice companies to support a specific platform/OS. If a game that I enjoy doesn't work on SteamOS, I'm not going to sit around waiting for devs to get it to work. I'm either going to install Windows where I know it works or simply not buy the Steam Deck. If Valve wants more people to support the Steam Deck then they have to entice devs to make their games work on their console, simple as that
I understand the goal of this, but I gotta say: HERESY!
why? why would u do that?
Options. Duh.
because it's a PC?
for better gaming performance
@@basshead. Except that's not the case
ruclips.net/video/hASwql4t9lA/видео.html
These are comparisons of an RDNA2 GPU and Zen 3 processor running the same games on Linux and Windows. The recent comparisons are using performance updates added to Linux by Valve and Collobora (where it says kernel 5.16). The same updates will be in SteamOS 3.0.
Performance is going to be very similar sometimes better on Linux sometimes better on Windows. EG Elden RIng and CyberPunk runs better on Linux than it does on WIndows. The most recent Forza is maybe 8% quicker on Windows. Swings and roundbouts.
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 cherry picking
Who needs Windows as a Desktop when you can use Linux Mint?
But why?
Destiny 2
Much better question would be: why not?
@@LinuxRenaissance Because it's a Linux channel and this video has nothing to do with Linux.
@@benign4823 I am okay with spreading my horizons. Knowledge is good, IMO.
@@LinuxRenaissance We're not talking about you, as an individual or otherwise. The comment is about this channel, a channel for Linux, doing Windows content.
By forcing MSFT Accounts even on Win 11 Pro users in the future... the Deck is the best reason to get rid of Microsoft completely.
yuck
steam os = internet explorer in 3....2....
i dont like it any more than you do
@Mauri BTek kinda...i wish i could be.
linux doesnt seem to want me
Dude test games on windows, not just talking and the windows background
You missed the point of the video. The point here was to show off that Valve and AMD got the stuff needed to get Windows 10 up and running,
ill switch to windows 11 when my deck arrives, linux sucks anyway
enjoy ur massively decreased available ram and battery life
Have you tried SteamOS yet?
@@poplix2704 enjoy your poor compatibility and masters degree skill level OS
@@minuteworld7027 lmao mald harder