DBSCG Fusion World | What Does A Set 3 Raging Roar Ban List Look Like??
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- This video is a thought experiment discussing what the community has been saying in terms of certain cards that need to be banned/ limited... while i agree with those sentiments, there is no indication that a ban list will be coming during Set 3! This is just a fun video kinda talking about it, nothing serious!
Hey Everyone,
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Broly will *never* be touched. Ever. No matter what. Hes the generic payoff for reaching 8. Droids 4 will likely be hit before hes ever even a considered card.
Great thoughts very interesting to watch! I don't think Broly needs to be limited or banned just yet. Like you said it's a boss for green which is the ramp color. It's whole reward for ramping IS bosses. Right now there's like 3 generic boss cards for green from 3 sets (Broly, Cell and 7 Gohan). Out of those he's just the most generic. If they print more boss options and people are still playing 3-4 Broly then he should be limited cause at that point hes restricting deck building for green.
Also multiple of broly in hand hurts green so no need to limit or ban the card. In a game which is a fast pace green need to strategize to reach 8c
Limiting a boss monster doesn't make sense because the chances of pulling them decrease so much where you might never see that card so the whole idea behind the color becomes useless if you never see it's boss monster. Since there is only 1 viable green deck currently, I don't think it needs to be touched because you hurt non meta green decks. Great discussion though. Also, make sure to lower you background music more for the next one
The idea was applying previous ban logic to cards within the current meta and seeing what applies based on that, so while I wouldn’t necessarily advocate for a big limit on Broly right now, the logic as to why he would get one still applies to him
The Piccolo stuff I think really helps him not get hit since nothing in that package is great enough to warrant use over him and until another viable boss monster is introduced, I don’t think he’ll be touched
@corrosivebullet I understand the logic behind it, but I just don't think you should use the same logic that was used to ban/limit a 1 or 4 cost to a boss monster that costs 8 to play. Also usually the only card being played during that turn. Maybe if green was as bad as it was in set 1, then maybe. But at that point the game was too new to do any of that
The music is over powering your voice.
I don’t know, it sounds fine on my end… I lower all my music files to -32 dB which is more than half its total volume, I can lower it more but not sure if that’s gonna be too quiet
I’ll give it a try next video though to see
I second this
@@corrosivebullet the information on the game you have is wonderful. Honestly it would be fine without the music but I understand why you want it. If you’re gonna be one of the main channels ppl watch for this game then it needs to be lowered for your voice to shine. Like I said your idea and thought on this game is what we need and if you continue I know you’ll be one of the premier channels. I hope you succeed and I look forward to watching your channel grow.
@steeltrident4051 this just made my day! Thanks so much 😁 definitely gonna take the feedback in stride, just cause I don’t see an issue doesn’t mean it’s not there… so I’ll definitely see what I can do to tweak it to make it better!
Went to the comments to add onto this. I turned the volume up to hear your thoughts while i made lunch and the music is really overbearing compared to the volume of your voice.
Androids is absolutely overtuned. It needs to be limited to 1
Mmm, i think erratas would be better overall for all cards mentioned minus broly. 4 drop droids should ramp the energy back in rest mode instead of active, pilaf could be changed to not pick himself up, or can only activate effect once per turn or even make him a 5k combo instead. Also with set 4 being so close now, i dont see them banning/restricting anything as weve seen people top with every color and different leaders throughout the entire set so far.
Edited to say imo broly doesnt need to be touched, i dont play green myself but playing into it i dont have any real problems getting rid of broly, i usually anticipate one coming around 8/9 energy depending what i have on board, sometimes ill even bait the opponent to play him so i can just dump him right away and get some cards.
Love the banlist discussion and agree with a lot of it!!
It’s never okay that on 4 energy. The line of play is turn 3 destructive, then turn 4 starting at 5 energy you play two of the droids and one trunks or destructive
Limit pilaf to two or make it not grab itself and limit broly to 1 and I think we're good maybe droids at 2 as well
Exactly, nothing really needs to be banned at this moment… just restricted to an extent
So fyi bandi never ever limits any than to 2 its either 1 or ban @corrosivebullet
I think pilaf is strong but does not need a restriction at this point. I mean other than vegeta leader is any other blue deck topping? Blue is strong but its vegeta that’s broken, if you limit pilaf then all of blue will just be bottom tier
@BerserkZeroYT I’m aware, that bits just me hoping they adapt to not be as restrictive… I feel the game could benefit from Yugiohs approach to Ban/Limits (Banned, Limited 1, Semi-Limited 2, Unlimited) then rotate that roster every set or 2
Would really expand play, make every season unique and different and won’t heavily restrict cards that may not need to be fully restricted
Trunks relies on Pilaf as well, however his leader effect isn’t nearly as oppressive as Vegeta’s 15k boost to power, his is more utility which balances Pilaf more
Limite pilaf to 2. STOP. Androids lose vs 30k jiren, so they have a bad matchup vs Red yet.
You guys always need a banlist. Always whining. Just play the damn game man.
Ban Pilaf and Nerf Androids, then honestly I think the Meta would be prefect!
Hitting Broly isn’t bad either. Opens more options for Green Big Bosses.
@@justinso8231that depends on if they reveal any more good green boss monster. 7 cost Gohan kinda sucks, fbo2 is okay, and other cell is leader lock so until that happens Broly will be here to stay
I don't like this video at all.... Why you play this game?? You play this game because you want to play with yours rules?? I hate all limits in TCG games.... When a game make a card, let this card just exist and if no balance it just make some new for balance it.. In Yu-gi-oh hurt all this limits and ban list... Always there is a way to fix that with a new card or a new combination.... Just let all the cards exist and let us the decision to make the best owns decks in all leaders.
That’s quite the assumption to make that he only plays the game for his rules. lol. The problem is if you let cards just exist and come up with more cards to counter them that makes the game even more unbalanced. Oh let’s just add something more powerful to counter this powerful card. Then that card becomes overpowered. Your logic doesn’t make sense in the long term.
@@tydran12 All leaders they have their way of playing... If add limits in their cards, this leaders they cannot be played at all... TOPKU for exapmle... For example if pilaf is the problem, then make a card to add the drop in his player deck or ramp the player from his drop... So no more pilaf... Broly his has a lot counter cards.. Absolute lighting, Zenoh, Golden Frieza, a lot cards for no KO, bardock... So isnt a problem... Just the way to players play isnt right... For this reason broly stay as problem... In androids GMs maybe they must make some cards for other deck for stop them, something like red frost... I didnt say GMs make more powerfull cards, just some cards -solutions for the problems... When this cards availables is it in our hand if we put them in our decks or if we put the pilaf-broly or another problem card in our decks.. That i say. And some last.... I like more the game if one colour counter the other... Now some colours they dont have counters... Leaders have counters.... I dont want to see only blue vegeta or androids.. If limit pilaf or broly other blue and green leaders is dead. All colours is make for one reason and any color is good in this... If limit their cards... So they didnt do that they make for.
By that logic, if Kefla didn’t get limited, Topku would still be a Tier 0 deck in the current format because of all the ToP support given in Set 3… especially that Cabba that acts like Glimpse and can bring Keflas back from drop!
This isn’t an issue of ban/ not ban, this is an issue with how Bandai constructs cards… they aren’t putting enough time into testing before releasing the product to ensure stuff isn’t overtuned… so because of Bandais shortsightedness, that’s why bans/limits currently exist
Now I’m not one who necessarily advocates for bans either but this video was a thought experiment just seeing what a banlist could look like based on what the previous banlist reasons were and what cards THE COMMUNITY are discussing should be hit… this isn’t about what I want at all lol
The support you said TOPKU took is because GMs limit Kefla. And what is the logic if not bans and limit TOPKU tier 0??? Always someone leader it will be at this tier... Now is Vegeta and Android because that, and now we search banished their cards... If this cards ban or limit someone else leader he going to tier 0 and then we search which cards from this leader ban??? What logic is that??? If a leader with his cards is Tier 0 let it here and support just the other leaders to become in that position... So simple... No Bans no limit... Because that ruined the game and some leader after that they cannot be played at all... For example, all we say piccolo need buff, but if he take that buff it will be Tier 0 eazy because in late is so powerful very difficult management this op attacks... If ramping faster then it cannot be manage at all and then we search for limit cards?? This isn't right... If TOPKU is good to play Kefla let it like this and make something else for other leaders answer.
You realize these booster boxes are made in advance right? They don’t release a set and are like, “ok Set 2 has released, what’s next?” More than likely, Set 3 was being thought up after Set 1 released and Set 2 was in the final stages of development… so yes, it still would’ve been Tier 0 if it wasn’t for the fact that the community reacted to how strong Kefla was, Bandai knew what was coming down the pipeline… they PLANNED the Set 3 support to work in conjunction with Set 2, Set 3 support wasn’t an answer to the Kefla ban, it’s not that hard to understand