For me I don’t take close looks at my diecast that often so for me arc cus you don’t have to spend as much money for something I don’t pay to much attention to
I just bought an ARC car and was wondering how they looked these days. This video was super informative. I'd rather have a metal chassis, but I still like the detail they give us. The lower price allows more cars to be made too, so that part is cool. Maybe the market will keep growing and they'll be able to do more detail and lower prices.
When I look far away, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between them because they look the same. The only way I would be able to tell the difference is looking at the details and features on these 2 cars. I noticed that the ARC cars don’t have an opening deck lid while the Elites still have them. I also believe that the Elites have suspension along with a better detailed interior and engine. I remember the time that they used to have tethers in the hood, deck lid and roof flaps. Those are the ways I can tell whether this specific car is an Elite or ARC.
Yep, I am strictly an Elite guy too. Just like you I prefer the weight of the car and the detail. I just wish they would put more and better detail. I would be willing to pay more for the cars if they did that. I have two Jimmie Johnson cars and a chase Elliott on order, now just have to wait till June to get them. It can be an expensive hobby if your collecting Elites, so I understand why many would prefer the Arch cars. P.S. Also, i'm not sure why but I have a thing for the antenas being there. The car just don't look right without them. Not sure it might be just me.
Thanks for the comparison. I bought some to commemorate the race I watched in LV and they are only going to sit on a shelf. For me, not worth the extra money to have all the extra stuff. But I can see if someone appreciated the extra detail to fork out the extra money
I got a Ryan Blaney from Plan B, it's price was for an ARC, but it had the suspension was for an Elite, but had an ARC roll cage, it also had the opening trunk, and detailed bottom...
I like the arc more when it comes to the interior. I say that because it’s more realistic. I don’t play with them I display them like everybody else. But actual cars have a white/grey roll cage so I like that look.
I only buy the Elites for my favorite driver and ARCs for other drivers to save money so I can get more cars for my collection. I don't see an issue with them cause I put them on display and don't touch them. Nor do I display them with the hood or roof flaps open, so the ARCs are just fine for me.
Chassis swap question. After watching your chassis swap video I've been getting a ton of dirt cheap 2013-2017 cars and have started swapping with my 2018-current ARCs. What do you do for raced win tires & rims and colored wheels though? Is there a way to swap the rims and tires from the new chassis to the older chassis? That's the only snag I'm coming across, as colored wheels are just becoming a thing again in 2018+ cars, and with race wins all those tires and rims are obviously unique to the car. Thanks in advance for any assistance! Love the videos!
Yeah I was planning on getting a white Ally Jimmie Johnson car and finale car too in Elite but I am sorry, I just can't justify spending the extra $30 dollars for something that I am going to put in a display case and not play with it. But that's me and to each its own. As long as the paint scheme is the same like what you see on the track, I am fine with the generic look. Unfortunately I have no longer any space to put 1:64s let alone the 1:24s but exception of the rule was Jimmie Johnson and the attractive Ally paint schemes. Bottom line: I think the 1:64s are the best bang for your buck when it comes to NASCAR diecast at $9 and to me, the molds on the 1:64s look a bit better or less ugly than the 1:24s (ie. Camaros 1:24s, they always look off to me).
Honestly, I take the bodies off and paint the interiors myself. They look no different at all except the antennas. Ultimately once I do that, they look the exact same to me. I just hate that white bar down the middle. Though for some reason the Toyota ARC sits way high in the back, especially compared to the Elite.
I have two “elites” - One from 2017 and one from 2016 before they started making two types of die cast, and they both have white posts. The white post trick might just be 2018+
I just received my Kyle Busch 2023 1/24 Lucas Oil Fontana WIN Elite car. This is my first legit Elite car. I have a couple question regarding the antenna. Do they just sit on the roof because mine are not staying in the holes on the roof?. And why didn't they just put them in themselves so they would stay in? Other than that I love it.
I don’t own an elite in my collection. I just can’t afford them. I’m perfectly okay with owning ARCs. I will one day pony up the money for an elite. It’s going to have to be something special tho
I’m not into spending unnecessary money. I try to be cheap when I can. So since my diecasts sit on a shelf and I don’t buy them because of future possible profits, I buy ARC. Not worth the extra for things you won’t notice unless you take them out and play with them.
Is there any diecast out there that is as detailed as the old Team Caliber stuff with tethers and realistic hinges and whatnot or is that all pretty much a thing of the past?
I saw that Eric Jones had a GNR car and gnr is selling these and I really fucking want one but I'm stuck between arc and Elite. I'm pretty fuckin stupid with my money so I'll probably end up buying the elite
Though to be fair if the elites where cheaper I might buy them also if they made the arc diecast the same as they did 15 years ago they’d be like $80 probably and the elites would be over $100
Any ideas how to remove the front springs on a 2020 Toyota Elite? Ride height it crazy high and I can’t figure out what is keeping the diecast control arms together preventing me from taking the stupid springs out.
I have some complaints; 1. If it is not the American S Scale of 1/64 then it should not be called 1/64. Most are 1/60th when you do the measuring and understand this China does not measure in the American Standard, they measure in metric so noting can ever be a 1/64 if made outside America. 2 Die cast is the process used for making metal items. It is rare to find a true die cast model. Plastic items or CVC items are not made with the die cast method, they are made by or with injection modes. So, if it is not a die cast don't call it die cast. if it is not injection mode, don't call it injection mode. When you compare product to product for the years mfg. still the best for your money was the original American S scale die cast made in America under the name Stock Car Miniatures. I will not sale any of mine.
You should have separated the body's from the chaises to correctly and clearly show the difference between the two. Im not into 1: 24 dicast ... Way too expensive
I'm pretty sure that the interiors in the cars are not painted on the real car. Just looking at 2019 photos of the 18 not a single interior was painted black except renders?
I just dont understand why lionel made the arc feel so cheap. Like i have a larson arc from 2017 right beside me and it has the same detail as the 2020 elites and stuff
That's why I hate these differences. Why can't you do it right? ARC has one more nuance. The front pair of wheels does not completely turn in one direction. The hole for the beam is small, the joint of the beam with the wheel clings to it. Add to that a hood that opens at a slight angle. The trunk, which does not open at all, although it has holes for hinges. Roof antenna missing. And an unfinished suspension. It's just a mockery. 1:24 Lionel Racing (ARC) Ford Fusion #14 Clint Bowyer - STP 500 Martinsville 2018
I hate the new ARC's. They are NOT worth $50 Not by a long shot. You can buy the same level of detail of those from Walmart for like $20. Its also annoying that they do this when for decades the basic model was just as detailed as the current elites. I want to get some of the new diecasts but I don't want to pay so much for what is basically a Hotwheels car. They need to charge like 35-40 for them. If they did that I'd buy them again. But like you I really like the detailed ones best.
I won't even look with interest at any NASCAR model car that doesn't have pics of the undercarriage and the engine bay. Got fooled once and that was it! I want the details that closely replicate the real car, not a toy! And sure, the elite series cost more. That's understandable.
This kinda reminds me of "Franklin Mint" models.... BOY are those things overpriced. Everything I've seen from them was very "UN-impressive" to say the least.
They really are. I rarely get 1/24s now from the last few years cause of it. The elites even aren't as good as just the normal Actions and Team Calibers from the 2000s
For me I don’t take close looks at my diecast that often so for me arc cus you don’t have to spend as much money for something I don’t pay to much attention to
I just bought an ARC car and was wondering how they looked these days. This video was super informative. I'd rather have a metal chassis, but I still like the detail they give us. The lower price allows more cars to be made too, so that part is cool. Maybe the market will keep growing and they'll be able to do more detail and lower prices.
When I look far away, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between them because they look the same. The only way I would be able to tell the difference is looking at the details and features on these 2 cars. I noticed that the ARC cars don’t have an opening deck lid while the Elites still have them. I also believe that the Elites have suspension along with a better detailed interior and engine. I remember the time that they used to have tethers in the hood, deck lid and roof flaps. Those are the ways I can tell whether this specific car is an Elite or ARC.
To me the plastic grey interior of the arc's is glaring when compared to the dark metal interior of the elites, more than anything.
Yep, I am strictly an Elite guy too. Just like you I prefer the weight of the car and the detail. I just wish they would put more and better detail. I would be willing to pay more for the cars if they did that. I have two Jimmie Johnson cars and a chase Elliott on order, now just have to wait till June to get them. It can be an expensive hobby if your collecting Elites, so I understand why many would prefer the Arch cars.
P.S. Also, i'm not sure why but I have a thing for the antenas being there. The car just don't look right without them. Not sure it might be just me.
The pre 2018 elites are amazing. Especially 2000-2012. The detail is immaculate
2 words: grill tape.
boom. pog plays.
Thank you very much, I recently got into collecting diecasts of the 1/24 scale. This helped me a lot!!!!
Thanks for the comparison. I bought some to commemorate the race I watched in LV and they are only going to sit on a shelf. For me, not worth the extra money to have all the extra stuff. But I can see if someone appreciated the extra detail to fork out the extra money
I got a Ryan Blaney from Plan B, it's price was for an ARC, but it had the suspension was for an Elite, but had an ARC roll cage, it also had the opening trunk, and detailed bottom...
Just knowing is enough for me. 🤷♂️ I only do elite unless they don't offer then I'll get a arc.
I like the arc more when it comes to the interior. I say that because it’s more realistic. I don’t play with them I display them like everybody else. But actual cars have a white/grey roll cage so I like that look.
I only buy the Elites for my favorite driver and ARCs for other drivers to save money so I can get more cars for my collection. I don't see an issue with them cause I put them on display and don't touch them. Nor do I display them with the hood or roof flaps open, so the ARCs are just fine for me.
Chassis swap question. After watching your chassis swap video I've been getting a ton of dirt cheap 2013-2017 cars and have started swapping with my 2018-current ARCs.
What do you do for raced win tires & rims and colored wheels though? Is there a way to swap the rims and tires from the new chassis to the older chassis? That's the only snag I'm coming across, as colored wheels are just becoming a thing again in 2018+ cars, and with race wins all those tires and rims are obviously unique to the car. Thanks in advance for any assistance! Love the videos!
I can immediately tell the difference. It's the earnhardt bar
I really like the tethers on some of my Elites.
Yeah I was planning on getting a white Ally Jimmie Johnson car and finale car too in Elite but I am sorry, I just can't justify spending the extra $30 dollars for something that I am going to put in a display case and not play with it. But that's me and to each its own. As long as the paint scheme is the same like what you see on the track, I am fine with the generic look. Unfortunately I have no longer any space to put 1:64s let alone the 1:24s but exception of the rule was Jimmie Johnson and the attractive Ally paint schemes.
Bottom line: I think the 1:64s are the best bang for your buck when it comes to NASCAR diecast at $9 and to me, the molds on the 1:64s look a bit better or less ugly than the 1:24s (ie. Camaros 1:24s, they always look off to me).
Honestly, I take the bodies off and paint the interiors myself. They look no different at all except the antennas. Ultimately once I do that, they look the exact same to me. I just hate that white bar down the middle.
Though for some reason the Toyota ARC sits way high in the back, especially compared to the Elite.
Wish I could see some pics of your interiors
Sweet as Thanks for that man soooo Helpful! Have a great day:)
Thank you I asked for this in the last video also does the antenna come with the car
Yes it does
Ok thanks
Are the roll bars metal
@@DoingDounuts roll cage is plastic, only metal is the body and bottom of chassis
Great video! I buy both. They’re both great.
I have two “elites” - One from 2017 and one from 2016 before they started making two types of die cast, and they both have white posts. The white post trick might just be 2018+
I just received my Kyle Busch 2023 1/24 Lucas Oil Fontana WIN Elite car. This is my first legit Elite car. I have a couple question regarding the antenna. Do they just sit on the roof because mine are not staying in the holes on the roof?. And why didn't they just put them in themselves so they would stay in? Other than that I love it.
They need to be removed to be in the box and yes they do just sit there
I don’t own an elite in my collection. I just can’t afford them. I’m perfectly okay with owning ARCs. I will one day pony up the money for an elite. It’s going to have to be something special tho
I honestly wanna keep my certificate cards because it tells you everything about the car . It's just my opinion .
I’m not into spending unnecessary money. I try to be cheap when I can. So since my diecasts sit on a shelf and I don’t buy them because of future possible profits, I buy ARC. Not worth the extra for things you won’t notice unless you take them out and play with them.
Or review them haha 😂
Is there any diecast out there that is as detailed as the old Team Caliber stuff with tethers and realistic hinges and whatnot or is that all pretty much a thing of the past?
2007 Action Elites are very close
No sadly. I miss when Team Caliber and Action were around at the same time
By just looking at it no unless you get realy close up but if you pick it up yes
I saw that Eric Jones had a GNR car and gnr is selling these and I really fucking want one but I'm stuck between arc and Elite. I'm pretty fuckin stupid with my money so I'll probably end up buying the elite
Though to be fair if the elites where cheaper I might buy them also if they made the arc diecast the same as they did 15 years ago they’d be like $80 probably and the elites would be over $100
The normal versions of both Action and Team Caliber are better than elites today lol
@@packisbetter90 sadly you’d think with better technology nowadays they’d have better quality
We’re there elites in the early 200’s
Man I wish I had that car
Any ideas how to remove the front springs on a 2020 Toyota Elite? Ride height it crazy high and I can’t figure out what is keeping the diecast control arms together preventing me from taking the stupid springs out.
It's definitely possible. I think I made another video to take out springs
I have some complaints; 1. If it is not the American S Scale of 1/64 then it should not be called 1/64. Most are 1/60th when you do the measuring and understand this China does not measure in the American Standard, they measure in metric so noting can ever be a 1/64 if made outside America. 2 Die cast is the process used for making metal items. It is rare to find a true die cast model. Plastic items or CVC items are not made with the die cast method, they are made by or with injection modes. So, if it is not a die cast don't call it die cast. if it is not injection mode, don't call it injection mode. When you compare product to product for the years mfg. still the best for your money was the original American S scale die cast made in America under the name Stock Car Miniatures. I will not sale any of mine.
could that card be there for being signed by the potential driver of the model of race car
I only buy my favorites in elite. I just get arc for the others.
The real difference I can see is the arrow ducks (those green and orange tape things) on the grill and there are in different spots
Those are race detail. One is Richmond and one is Phoenix. But the ARC and elite will have the same raced body detail
You should have separated the body's from the chaises to correctly and clearly show the difference between the two.
Im not into 1: 24 dicast ... Way too expensive
I'm pretty sure that the interiors in the cars are not painted on the real car. Just looking at 2019 photos of the 18 not a single interior was painted black except renders?
Where can I buy a chassis or even a plain Diecast? I would like to create my own iRacing scheme. I don't want a cheap made cast though
Best to but damaged diecast with paint flaws
I just dont understand why lionel made the arc feel so cheap. Like i have a larson arc from 2017 right beside me and it has the same detail as the 2020 elites and stuff
The Elites in 2018 are just the ARC diecast before 2018
im very surprised they made even 100 let alone 1,200 of those bubba blm cars.
It's a highly public Diecast, I'm not too surprised
@@racecraze im not for or against blm its just...you know...nascar. not exactly known for having "progressive" fans.
I keep the elite certificate of authenticity be because I only have ever gotten 1 elite diecast
Cool..
We’re there elites in the early 2000’s
Elites were around since late 90s
I asked for a 2018 truex elite so I could chassis swap it to my 2020 bell Rheem arc
Edit: any tips for the chassis swap
That's why I hate these differences. Why can't you do it right? ARC has one more nuance. The front pair of wheels does not completely turn in one direction. The hole for the beam is small, the joint of the beam with the wheel clings to it. Add to that a hood that opens at a slight angle. The trunk, which does not open at all, although it has holes for hinges. Roof antenna missing. And an unfinished suspension. It's just a mockery.
1:24 Lionel Racing (ARC) Ford Fusion #14 Clint Bowyer - STP 500 Martinsville 2018
Where do you buy your diecast? Any good sites?
Plan b sales, and soon I'll have my own elite website
They both say lionel?
Where do you find elites? Besides eBay?
Rasdiecast.com
I never had nascar car toys
11:28 buy from a reputable dealer!
I hate the new ARC's. They are NOT worth $50 Not by a long shot. You can buy the same level of detail of those from Walmart for like $20. Its also annoying that they do this when for decades the basic model was just as detailed as the current elites. I want to get some of the new diecasts but I don't want to pay so much for what is basically a Hotwheels car. They need to charge like 35-40 for them. If they did that I'd buy them again. But like you I really like the detailed ones best.
I buy arc
I won't even look with interest at any NASCAR model car that doesn't have pics of the undercarriage and the engine bay. Got fooled once and that was it! I want the details that closely replicate the real car, not a toy! And sure, the elite series cost more. That's understandable.
Once you know how to spot the difference sometimes someone thinks they are selling an ARC but you can get an elite
2000’s
Elite looks shorter
Sometimes they sit a little lower because they have the suspension
They've been junk since 2018. I dont know why anyone would waste money on them
Because the ARC is horrible
This kinda reminds me of "Franklin Mint" models.... BOY are those things overpriced. Everything I've seen from them was very "UN-impressive" to say the least.
He lost me at Bubba Wallace’s BLM car
No
2018 and newer ARCs are junk.
fucking lionel
They really are. I rarely get 1/24s now from the last few years cause of it. The elites even aren't as good as just the normal Actions and Team Calibers from the 2000s
The Elites from 2018 are the ARC of 2017 and the made the ARC like the old winner circle diecast
@@packisbetter90 2016 they were great and I skipped out on 17 I got one in 18 and it was garbage
Wrong Busch
first