NEWS - Hotfix 5.1.1 Is Here - Fixes & Nerfs - Total War Warhammer 3
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Hotfix 5.1.1 has finally dropped and has fixed a lot of issues that appeared in patch 5.1. Let's talk about the changes and the nerfs.
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You missed one last interesting update at the end. They are using modded maps and incorporating in the game. That's exciting.
Massive spaghetti code leads to seemingly random unintended behaviour when make even minor unrelated changes.
Its an awful situation to be in, but after decades of wilful neglect by CA this is where they find themselves.
They really need to fix MP campaign desyncing and allow for easier Hotjoining in MP Campaigns. This becomes an issue when playing with 3 or more people in a lobby. Desyncs and drops become more frequent as the game progresses and with no hotjoin it means everyone has to back out and rehost the lobby. Which takes more time. Also I had a MP campaign where we softlocked the game by me transferring units between armies at the exact same time someone attacked an AI on the other end of the map. The result was neither of us could do anything. No buttons for him at all, and my screen just said waiting for player X attack.
I never thought to go clear out my old saved games. Almost 50 gbs between 2 and 3. Ty for that.
Swiftshiver shards are supposed to be the "shotgun" archer variant and normal deepwood scouts are the long range snipers. Imo a good change. Gives both an actual identity and makes both viable.
Thorgrim still crawls upside down
Yeah, its every ”throne” unit so Anvil of doom and Thorek also runs upside down on the map. In battle its fine. Seems to be a map issue only
But it brings me joy to see the dwarfs sniffing out grudges with utmost speed. At this point I would be quite sad if it was patched.😂
@@TheRobinholm I don't really do manual battles but yea not a big problem either way
@@jonasfullit's not in battles, it's only on the campaign map
@@jonasfullyou don't play them at all ever? Dude that's like a massive part of the game lol
I just saw the latest episode of house of the dragon and I thought to myself that the actor who played Aemond Targaryen would make a great live action Mallus Darkblade
Yeah, I can see that
@@kuglefang More importantly: Why would you watch tripe like that?
@@HiddenEvilStudiosit's good though
An even better Luthor Harkon!
Its a good show@@HiddenEvilStudios
Deleting saves is important. I deleted 20GB with saves from TWW2 and 3, even trough I don't have game 2 installed anymore.
Do you do that on steam?
@@johanneshertsbergpettersso9650 No, you have to do that manually. Either slowly ingame or far faster the old fashioned way of deleting stuff. Use the taskbar or search function on your PC and search %appdata%. Look for "The Creative Assembly". In there you find the folders for each game. Under save_games you can delete all the save files you want. There is also a video from "Echo of Total War" on YT that shows you how to do it if you are still unsure. :)
Saves for TWW3 usually end up on the C Drive (Windows) even if the game is installed on a different drive to delete en masse. I found my saves in a hidden AppData folder under the list of Users.
Wish they would've fixed the more important issues like AI units in sieges derping out and spreading out across the map, or some AI units becoming invisible despite not having stalk or any hiding abilities or blocking terrain.
they should add alex jones voicelines for boris todbringer
That's a simple enough mod...
Incomplete without making Boris just as red as Alex is
@@Hoddevik92 I DONT LIKE THEM PUTTING MAGIC IN THE WATER THAT TURNS THE FRIGGING FROGS UNDEAD
I had an issue where my reinforcing armies that I gave over to the AI would just sit perfectly still and watch as I lose the battle
When are they going to fix the bug with ranged units doing that weird scoot thing instead of firing?
The Warpstone Detonation causing the user to instantly die is such a Skaven thing. But it's good that it changed so you don't lose your potentially high-level characters because they blew themselves up.
For me it wasn’t just the characters on the doom wheel but any doom wheel after the forbidden workshop upgrade. The ROR just randomly blew up in melee as well without the upgrade. I’ll check it when I get home.
As someone with a 40 hour khorne campaign as Valkia I can tell you that the Karanak nerfs won’t affect his viability in CAMPAIGN at least, though I can’t speak to multiplayer. I don’t think even with his higher damage output from his spell he would be considered game changing, or worth the cost.
In campaign however he’s fantastic. I run him alongside two flesh hounds of khorne and they obliterate back lines.
He decimates both hybrid & pure casters through lockdown & does pretty strong damage to normal infantry through cycle charges. His roar buys him room to help him escape a crowd and then charge whatever he needs to get to, and his cronies help him deal with larger groups. I don’t think it’s worth doom stacking flesh hounds with him, but they make for an awesome kill team if you take a couple of them alongside him.
Bruh that is definitely just nerf him from Very Broken to just Broken. At first i thought the nerf gonna made him mediocre but nah, he still strong af 😂
this is like the seventh time they "fix" lls not spawning properly
It's a reoccurring problem, and those are typically side effects of technical debt leading to barely understood spaghetti code.
I guess the issue keeps respawning
They need to fix that thorgrim glitch its very wierd that instead of walking he's just crawling 😂
Is it bad to have 500 save files ?
Oh yeah man I got my save cache a few months back that bad boy had 134G going all the way back to warhammer 1
I recently had an issue where, while playing a Valkia campaign, I set one of my Norscan vassals to defend a settlement. What they did was to set up a raiding camp (and, yes, do nothing as the settlement was besieged by an inferior force, but I assume that's just the typical "us R stoopid and passive now derp" AI allies appear to use).
Is this a bug or WIA, does anyone know?
Should you just not ask Norsca to defend your settlements?
I don't care about the gold cost but the Control penalty I can do without.
I'd really like them to go back to WH2 sieges and I want the Ai to confederate more aggressively. My campaigns get boring quickly and I think these might be the two biggest reasons.
I play with a unit cap mod and my god every time there's an update it makes all the armies boring.
3:25 I still play RoC. I started a ku’gath campaign.
But I only like to play the characters that have very different starts compared to IE. Katarin is an exception because
I think at least everyone should win 1 Katarin RoC for story’s sake.
Still confused how some of these bugs happen. Like how the hell did the district rewards visually disappear.
My guess is they changed variables for something that also affects the Chaos Dwarfs, they did add Makaisson's adventure missions one of which features them, sometimes changing a 0 to a 1 causes other 1's to become 0's if that makes sense.
Are rebellions still not showing up?
How could that Warpstone Detonation thing even happen? Someone was messing with Skaven code while working on Dwarfs and added that tag???
I mean, they definitely lose some steam, but I never struggled to still beat down enemies. I found it funny that I was getting negative Vassel money.
Interesting patch. I have a quick lore question regarding Elspeth. Did Amethyst units exist in the lore and/or the table top? If they did not then I think that there could an interesting tweak made to Elspeth where places get to the choice to *choose* which units in each of the four categories are made into Amethyst units.
The idea is that the different choices would fit differing play styles for players. While some will try to min/max the system I think that others might find the added diversity a bit interesting. Imagine Amethyst Hochland Long Rifles, Amethyst Outriders with Grenade Launchers, Amethyst Steam Tank with Volley Gun, and Amethyst Helbaster Volley Gun.
The idea is to increasing player choice and replayability to the faction. Once the units are made Amethyst they will get four potential upgrades but these will differ based on the units which you choose to make Amethyst.
I know that this will require a good amount of coding but I think that overall, if done right, it could be worth it.
BUT did they didn’t fix Thorgrim ? You should see how he travels around the campaign map 😂 Eyes to the sky
Tariff made a video about it and it's hilarious af 😂
And here I was wondering why my Tehenhauin campaign was such a slog with all my stegadons... lol guess im reloading hopefully this patch fixed the insane crashing I was having in the late game... lol
Eldred’s Guard Spearmen still not fixed. The shields and the Green armour are fixed, but now they just use player faction colours rather than the black and gold like the Myrmidia Shields they use.
Thanks for the video
They need to fix their stupid auto resolve system, obviously it gives different results depending on difficulty levels but the other night i was playing as Chaos with a Khorne army led by a Prince with mostly tier 4 units and another army of Tzinch, again mostly tier 4 units including various heroes throughout the armies and a couple of tier 5 monsters and went to attack Imrik who had just attacked and taken over a Chaos Dwarf settlement so his army was half dead, and i mean every unit was half health except him and his three hawkmen heroes. He had a few dragon princes, many spearmen and half a dozen archers.
Expecting a clear and decisive victory with low casualties i nearly clicked the button BUT thankfully stopped when I read it was saying it would be a CRUSHING DEFEAT! After the expletives had finished uttering from my mouth and I looked at the armies again to try and figure out how the bonkers auto resolve came up with that prediction I played out the battle on max difficulites, in case anyone is wondering and the results were unsurprisingly how I thought the auto resolver should have been.
From two full armies I lost roughly 280 units, bear in mind that 95% of my units were straight up melee so that's not bad considering and obviously it was declared a Decisive Victory, but this brings up another point. SURELY if the auto resolver had this as a CRUSHING DEFEAT then me just winning it should be a HEROIC VICTORY?!
The system is clearly broken in certain situations, but as usual it's unlikely it will ever get fixed.
The only surprising thing about that battle was Imrik, he got beaten down by Tzinch halbadiers and the three headed doggo.
Settlememt defence AR buffs + imrik is a beast in AR.
I know there are some Auto Resolve mods on the workshop. Hopefully they fix your issue.
@@olafthemoose9413 He definitely feels a bit overtuned in AR, even if the intention behind it was giving an AI controlled Imrik some higher chances of surviving against all the enemies around him.
Such a mood. Just last night i had my full T4&5 army with Elspith's armory fully upped go against a vampire coast settlement that had just been sacked. 1 half dead lord, and 4 half dead hand gunner pirates apparently auto resolve killed my full health ROR landship, and 3 of my also full health nuln ironsides. Like what the hell? Manually fought it and didnt have to move, arty and land ships nuked the 5 units into oblivion. But on auto resolve it was going to kill 4 of my more powerful units?
Next dlc after river of blood i think it go to Purple chaos vs Vampire counts vs Wood elves
Hope you don’t mind me asking, but as you are in the know about lots any idea what happened to the TWToTWT RUclips channel? He just seems to have vanished? He did good mod review videos!
No fix for the rotated anvils of doom?
That's not a bug, that's a feature
I started a co-op one with Taurox and Valkia just last night because I wasn't expecting any fixes or anything any time soon. Goddamnit.
Should be fine, buddy. I rarely get any issues with this. My current MP has been through one already and is fine. Will see tonight if it gets broken by a second, i doubt it will.
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 I'm using about 60 mods at present. I don't think it will be fine.
Well that's the price you pay for regular fixes and updates. Mods don't love it.
@@HiddenEvilStudios Oh, no. It won't be. That's the nature of modding an actively developed game.
@@olafthemoose9413 Now if only they were regular or on some kind of schedule, then I wouldn't mind as much.
I fully agree with the nerfs, yes they effect MP but in campaign we also face them. While we can adjust easier for unbalanced stuff in campaign its still no fun being steamrollered by an OP faction, or just steam rolling everyone else with no challenge.
Also the exploit where players were sacrificing their own units to increase power did feel perfectly lore correct for a chaos faction...
Love youre content man keep it up
Shame LHs don't have Mentor skills.
On the other hand Karanak got nerfed a bit which is kinda fine.
Yea he's still very decent
@@renhardhalim Yeah. The nerf was more about making his snare skill less damaging.
Chaos shrines are junk again then, better to be on a smaller, more mobile mount now we can't just sacrifice our own troops to proc the effect. Lore wose having Chaos sacrifice their own troops for more power is perfect but I guess balace wise it's terrible.
Oh it's just for Tzeentch, I was worried the others were affected
It still works like that. The bug was that every unit nearby started to generate WoMs themselves.
Why CA still does not fix the TAA? I think is a priority now... Graphic without AA looks bad and FXAA does not improve it... And what about the summoned Ancestral Guard
What was wrong with the Wood Elven range? You already needed an extra building, you aren't likely to choose!
5.1 was a disaster, the tax burdened for one Legendary Khorne Dog was way too high.
Thorgrim is moving upside down on the campaign map. Thorek,too when on anvil of doom. Fix needed urgently!
Love that my playthrough is now gonna be unplayable. I seriously going to have to just for development to end to be able to play this game as steam forces u to update and I can never finish a game on time
Glad to see Karanak get some nerfs, though I stil really hope they revisit that Brass collar.
Silencing not just spells but also active abilities is incredibly broken and also doesn't make sense within the context of what that item is supposed to do.
The collar is supposed to protect Karanak from magic, not stop people from using their learned abilities or items in a massive radius. A better way to implement it would be to make it so Karanak simply cannot be affected by enemy spells.
In its current iteration, the brass collar does nothing to stop the enemy from pinning Karanak down with a Net of Amyntok from afar and then blasting him down with cannon, but it will stop Karl Franz from activating Ghal Maraz when fighting him.
In keeping with the lore, it should be the exact other way around.
Good comment, totally agree 👍
824mb hotfix?
The swiftshiver shards could be allowed to have the same range but then they should cost much more to account for the near doubling of firepower. Also, I feel like they should've left the ability to boost the shrines with your own entity deaths, just fix the messed values that were happening from the tzentch shrine. If someone wants to nuke some cheap units to build up the shrine a little, that's fine as it's a trade off. If it's too good, then lower the values.
Blowing up a marauder to charge your shrine still works. It just no longer gives the mana buff to all units around it anymore which was likely never intended.
FIX THORGRIM AND DWARF THRONES
Has anyone played high elves sind patch 5.1.? Spear- and shieldmen? For me the animation is utterly broken (chaotically moving spears...)
Game design is wierd, mess with a texture at the end of a hundred hour game, a wall in the first 5 minutes might break. Video games are made with glue and duck tape
It's all the spaghetti they tie it together with.
As a developer, yeah, its a wild ride. Frankly, this game is a quite the achievement.
so does this skullfuck my latest turn 100 multiplayer campaign?
You don't know how big or if anyone plays Dominiation mode? 😳 have you heard of someone named Turin mate? 😳
Still no Thorgrim/Runelord/Thorek Throne fix for the campaign map. not playing till that issue is fixed.
Thank god, I thought I was the only one. Such a weird bug too!
this is crazy, cant even do a campaign due to the updates corrupting the save files....
It rarely breaks a campaign. I've been continuing all my campaigns through them with 1 issue. (Orion's war bonus went wacky, but that was kind of fun, so it worked out.)
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 glad you have not had an issue, all 5 of my campaigns are broken
Mods? Or base game? Vanilla usually survives updates
@@olafthemoose9413 Modded campaigns are also safe, based on the patch notes at least.
@@ruicosta1037 the campaign might be, but the mod might not be
Heh, I just updated all my mods.
Stop updating mods till paid to
Cant wait to see all the new mod incompatibilities
Just the nature of modding an actively developed game.
Surely CA will revert Saytang's windbow ability VFX... god i fucking hate how not only they annihilated him, but they completely ruined the VFX too. the windbow ability felt so impactful and unique... now it's just a trash bland missile spell that shoot pathetic yellow noodles...😢
Why CA, why ruin your own beatiful work..
Karanak was already trash and they made him worse... cool
And he looks like a porn toy which is the worst in my list
Do doomflayers still instantly blow up in melee after forbidden workshop upgrade “warp flares”
Edit: oh thank god. Hopefully they fixed it completely.
Why nerfing the fun?
Balance is more fun.
Cause op isn't fun
Just mod in the fun back for your single player
Balance is more in multiplayer
@@viewerchicken730 there are less than 1000 people playing this game multiplayer
@@ZovereignNah balance isn't too important most people play SP, the game shouldn't be balanced for the extreme minority that plays MP.
I knew i should have played Karanak fast. Same crap with every new unit basically, but couldn't made it in time this time. Sigh.
Woodelf Range in this game was always a bad joke most of the time sadly.
And thats another 65 gb update for me😢
Fucking steam
It shows 60+ because of install shield. This isn't a steam thing, but a basic windows protocol.
If it takes a long time for you, you need more RAM and/or a better processor. Maybe a better hard drive too. (SSD if you don't have one)
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 didn't take long, around 10 minutes. Just like complaining
@@daangoes121 LOL! Fair.
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 Hey man this is random, but can you tell me what u think the best processor on the market for grand strategy games is right now? I was looking at the Intel - Core i9-14900K 14th Gen 24-Core 32-Thread - 4.4GHz but Ill probably need a new motherboard too
Basicly ALL nerfs are due to crying from MP community, like karanak, thundergbarge, Elspeth's Dragon aso... happens every DLC and will never stop. Some I agree with, most I dont
nerf to karanak unfortunate? common man, this game gets less interesting each time the newer units get overpowered. also in single player ! stop complaining about multiplayer guys ruining your stuff that's such a bad use of your platform...
balance is important in single player too !
Karanak will still perform 95% the same in SP.
SP people like to get outraged by nerfs for MP but at the end of the day 99% of MP balance changes have either no impact on campaign or were needed for campaign anyways.
Agreed - You can stlll make the OP stuff in campaign or just slide everything to easy if you want to curbstomp the Ai with a doom or hero stack of cheese
Fun > balamce
@@jibbanibba2000 yeah but what fun is it to just roll over AI with OP heroes ? it is the first time and then makes the whole game dull
balance creates the fun !
@@dEcmircEd when unit is useless nobody will use it, as simple as that.
The balancing department is just the fun police 💀💀💀
CA should balance MP and SP separately ffs 😂
God damn i feel you my guy..
Surely CA will revert Saytang's windbow ability VFX... god i fucking hate how not only they annihilated him due to some land battle MP whiners, but they completely ruined the VFX too. the windbow ability felt so impactful and unique... now it's just a trash bland missile spell that shoot pathetic yellow noodles...😢
Why CA, why ruin your own beatiful work..
Couldn't agree more. They only do that with hiring costs, sadly.
@@Garret007 how depressing ffs...
Campaign is full of exploits and the ability to make OP stuff IF and how you want to. But IMO its better if thats a choice rather than baseline units being stupidly OP.
If they do a huge MP focused nerf to a character like the one Kharanak just got they should add a skill to restore said ability to its pre-nerf state. That way characters might one day have a use for their 50+ skills and the character can still be properly balanced when you acquire it.
...just got game work work with my mods...better not be unplayable again until updates
Probably modded campaigns are safe with this one.
Fuck multiplayer. I'm heartily sick of campaign mechanics, some like archer range harken back to the table top FFS, getting nerfed and decolorized and de-flavored because of a few MP whiners. Never did MP, will never do MP, don't know anyone who does. Know many many players in my community sick of this MP pandering.
lol happens in every game i hate them
Because you’re in your own SP bubble. Turin has 180k subscribers and pretty much 80% of his content is domination MP. Davhplays and humanboy also have a decent following only doing MP. Also I can’t even say these were all MP related. regular deepwood scouts were useless since silver shards had 180 range. That change forces your to make a recruitment decision. Karanek was OP cause you could run around and spirit leech your way to victory in SP.
Wonder how many of my mods this will break. *Sigh*
Based on the patch notes, none.
I wonder if AI can be used to help fix the coding bugs maybe worth an experiment.
These guys are lucky everyone is too busy playing Elden Ring to care about their inability to polish this game. Real content when?
Eww elden ring hard pass
Said this one guy ever lmao
But you care enough to make a comment. Go back to ER. You'll never be happy will you Karen.
Autumn-Winter
screw this game my saves are once again f up
Just wait till they drop support and never have this issue ever again
New patch, new nerfs... lets go! Can't wait for more...
cant wait for Saytang's windbow ability VFX revert... god i fucking hate how they completely ruined the VFX. the ability felt so impactful and unique... now it's just a trash bland missile spell that shoot pathetic yellow noodles..😢