Accurate. Let’s not forget CPRS and all the time spent waiting on the spinning blue circle of death every time you so much as move the cursor. CPRS is like the Johnny Cash song “One Piece At a Time”
My Dad is a Veteran, so I know about the Dark Side of VA care. Veterans deserve the best care available and yet most are treated badly. So sad! Unfortunately, Doc Vader speaks the Truth. ❤God bless our Veterans❤
My husband is a Vietnam Combat Veteran (USMC). I’m a retired Nurse. I was laughing so hard watching this. I can laugh now, but my hubby finally got his VA Disability last year. It was a long, hard process.
Almost daily I have to say, “this is an order, not a suggestion.” Spot on! I laughed at this video but also found myself sad that even outsiders clearly see the issues.
As a former employee of the VA in the Out Patient/Mail-order Pharmacy Department and a Disabled Vet, you were pretty spot-on! 😂 Keep up the great work Doc Vader! And try not to "force-choke" the staff too much! ☺😃😂
There are so many videos of yours that I have shared with my colleagues and have done nothing but raved about you. This past week I watched all of your new podcasts which were brilliantly done. I am a nurse at the Fargo VA and have been for the last 3 years. I was very saddened by this video. Yes. Everyone can say that Fargo, North Dakota is a small city which does not serve the numbers that other VAs do. However, we take care of our Veterans. I have also worked in the private sector for many years so I have seen both sides. The difference at the Fargo VA and the private sector is that we can spend time with patients which in turn promotes actually listening to the patient's needs, ordering the correct tests and communicating with other disciplines to set up a plan of care for each individual patient. I apologize to the veterans if they do not get the care that they deserve but please do not lump all VAs together. I am very proud to be a nurse at the VA and will continue to give top-notch care to every veteran I come in contact with. I just wish that the media would quit destroying the reputation of the VA and begin to support us. www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Fargo-VA-one-of-the-top-in-the-country-405360435.html
When I found out my intern year salary would come from the VA, I made sure it didn't make me a VA pt. My brother has had some of the worst and lots of the best care from his VA hospitals. He was written off in another city, then on heart transplant list & improved w/o transplant, w/help of San Antonio transplant cardio team & 5 lead pacemaker. 6+ yrs doing great!
I had a wonderful experience doing part of my medical training at the VA. I thought the docs and nurses were generally very good and really cared about the vets. Also the VA offered better social and mental health services than the private hospitals I worked at. If you're homeless and come to a regular hospital, you'll be discharged back to the street once your treatment is done. If you're homeless and got admitted to our VA, usually we were able to get the vet into housing. Additionally, we were never pressured to discharge patients rapidly and we were able to keep vets in the hospital for "social" issues, whereas a regular hospital would definitely kick them out because of the fee for service model. For example if there was a vulnerable vet who needed their discharge delayed for social reasons like they're 90 years old and it's a snowstorm outside, we could just keep them overnight and wouldn't be pressured to discharge because they no longer met medical necessity to stay in the hospital. If your 90 year old gets discharged onto a snowstorm and breaks their hip, in a regular hospital you have just made big big bucks with the hip replacement you are about to do. In the VA there is more focus on the veteran's overall health. I don't want to make it sound perfect, there are lots of downsides to the VA as well. I worked at a relatively small VA so I never experienced much bureaucratic hassle, but I can imagine working at a huge VA hospital would involve a lot of those issues. But overall I think the VA is a wonderful system that has some problems, but also has some real benefits. I must add that the vast majority of VA nurses I've worked with are amazing and do a great job. The stereotype of the lazy VA nurse has not been true in my experience. You do meet some back office and support people who are kind of lackadaisical. Our telephone operators were hilariously incompetent and sometimes you do get support staff who inexplicably can't do stuff. I recently spoke to a VA liason whose primary job is to smooth transitions for vets who are admitted to my private hospital, and she could not fax me medical records because she said she didn't have a fax machine in her office (presumably there was a fax machine somewhere in her entire facility that she could use). So you do end up with weird issues like that and a bit more of a can't-do attitude from some staff. Also VA food is really bad.
I wanted to laugh but a recent VA experience still has me pissed off. Overheard phlebotomists talking and one wasn’t happy about the new schedule. He said he wasn’t going to come in, followed up by “What are they going to do? Fire me?”
I use to take my father-in-law to the VA a lot. Once in the Urgent clinic, they started an IV on him, gave him Lasix push in the IV and sent him home. We lived about 20 miles from the hospital, and of course he had to urinate all the home. Our first stop was a gas station that refused to let him use the employee only restroom. I will always remember him trying to contain his dignity and the constant urge to void.
I felt fortunate that I only had to go to the VA to do a outside doctor consult, never as an employee. I was never good at staying on the lines on the floor.
Instead of joking about the fronline staff, how about the administrators, the ones who get big bonuses for doing "more with less"; and meeting the "numbers" of scheduled patients, no matter how small the staff numbers are. In the area where I worked, at a large VA, we had double the number of patients that we should have had, and being on call meant being on call 24/7 for an entire week (we only had dayshift staff). If you worked your entire shift, and got called in all evening and night, you were still expected to show up for your regular shift. If you made a mistake, you got thrown under the bus. All of our outpatients were pissed, and I am still amazed that none of us got into car accidents. After our department head left, we suddenly got our staff doubled, and got big raises. The new Dept head actually cared about his dept, his staff, and the veterans. I worked for 17 years in the private sector at a level one trauma center. I have seen many more people fired at the VA than at the private hospital. I know this is a "Doc Vader" episode, but please direct your wicked humor towards those who deserve it, not those of us who have worked in administratively terrible conditions, trying to give the veterans the best care that we can.
This is funny as hell. That said, my Dr. at the VA in NYC is the best. She has no problem calling me, unlike some civilian Dr. There, I don’t feel like I’m on some kind of high speed conveyor belt when I’m in the doctor’s office. Not to mention, the sardine can they call a waiting room in some of these private hospitals. My best experience was with the VA hospital NY Harbor and Cornell Medical Center. Maybe I’m just lucky.
I love this Doc Vader skit, had me howling at 2/10 pain. Win, win, win, win, win! However, socialized medicine saved my life, so I’m protective of open access to health care.
I did my RN rotation at the VA at American Lake. A huge ward, beds everywhere! The one patient I remember best got no, no attention/care during the four hours I was there, for 2 week rotation. Shameful.
Fortunately, for the most part, I've had experiences with the practicing side of the VA that range from okay to pretty great... but BILLING IS A FREAKING NIGHTMARE. Also, the Choice Program is a whole new level of broken...
I worked at a VA many yrs ago. I worked my ass off. Chonic unerstaffing, burnt out nurses, nurses and RT with substance abuse while working. Nurses missing durningsexual hook ups. Fabulous nurses fled. Environment filthy. That was. More then 35 years ago. I pray that it has. Those were sample pronblems
Yeah, the pain thing. It says “worst pain you can imagine.” One time I popped one of my floater ribs out of position and had a hard time breathing so I had to hit urgent care. Walked in, said I’m in a lot of pain, 4/10. They take my BP and it’s like 160/120 or something and the nurse it like “OMG! What’s normal for you?” Usually 110/70 I said I was in a lot of pain. 😂 She’s like why didn’t you say 10/10? And I’m like “I can imagine much worse.”
I once had a VA DOC. She tried to tell me that I could cure my knee pain with my Chi. By placing one hand on my knee and the other hand on my ankle for 20 minutes a day and my body’s energy would regenerate Cartlidge. 2 out of 10 pain BWHAHAHAHAHA
The job of the VA is not to care for vets, it is to delay and deny until the vet gives up or (preferably) dies. (preferably because dead vets cant get a lawyer or call their congress critter)
VA staff can be fired. Happens all the time. Also didn’t you just have someone on your show who needed fluids and didn’t get them in a private hospital? Like all healthcare settings there’s good ones and there’s bad ones, good staff bad staff. I’ve worked in the Minnesota VA’s and the care was very good. Our patients say so too.
Yes, there is good and bad everyone. I can't speak for Minnesota, but my experiences are: 1. The VA works in government time (which is to say unnecessarily slow) 2. The EHR is antiquated, if not obsolete, 3. Yes you CAN fire people, but at the very least, there is a high level of complacency.
Arpita Kodagu my concern is that it isn’t broadly true. There’s a movement out there that wants to privatize the va as well as the post office by making it funny to denigrate the services and purposely set them up to fail. While he’s dissing the VA I know of two seriously impaired physicians who practice surgery drunk in a private hospital. Why? Because of the good old doc boys club and surgeons bring in money. I know the VA could definitely improve things but this isn’t going to help. They are actually better at some thing’s, have done spectacular research. Lots of the highly sophisticated prosthetics were developed by the VA for example. Leading TBA rehab techniques are coming out of the VA, and more.
I'm writing this sitting in my desk at a pretty large VA and I think he is broadly true. There's amazing people working here on all levels but in general i don't think he is too far off, personally speaking
The VA directly next door to our hospital has a main phone number that's inverse to our IT Helpdesk. Ours is ABA-#### and theirs is BAB-####. We get their patients calling us ALL THE TIME!!!!
I can also concur.... My service chief is king of the sh*t heads...and proud of it.....only half of them are... But they're there, and will never be fired.
That place broke my heart seeing how my late father was treated . Tylenol # 3 for metastatic bronchogenic carcinoma. God the suffering he went thru . :(
I spent a total of almost 2 years in a combat zone and they won’t take care of me at the VA because I didn’t end up with any chronic problems from my service. 🤦♀️ #supporter
We barely do, check BP of a vet before va appointment and then after. Basically we always leave mad an feel disrespected or like we are being tosed around with no answers.
I have been on VA care for 3 years and I have received as good, if not, better treatment that I did in the private sector. I take full advantage of VA Choice where I can get a local private provider and not have to worry "if my plan covers this" - where care is restricted to some private insurance bureaucrat - who are worse than you find at the VA because there is a financial incentive to deny or minimize care. I was diagnosed with cancer last year. It was detected early because the VA is uber-aggressive with preventative care and this was caught because they were very thorough after I had a bladder infection. My meds come in the mail - free, and I can call my PCP's nurse any day, get a return call the same day, and someone taking care of my issue. Things got kicked into the higher gear when Trump kicked a few asses and within weeks, you could see things get better. You can say what you want, Darth Vader, but I don't see what you claim in this video. This may have been true under BHO, but not now. BTW, a significant number of those who work for the VA are 1099 contractors who can be dumped anytime.
This is an extremely offensive display of unintellectual rhetoric and half truths....I play Tetris all the time on a government PC and I NEVER win. NEVER
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 2/10 YUP Vet here, people look at me like I am a nut job when I tell them the pain I just live with on a daily basis as normal...And the VA is seriously hit or miss, some people get great care but I have not. And they refuse to hire nurses right out of school for some reason (some of us in my class are trying to get hired on and they only want experienced nurses who are burned out, bitter, and don't give A flying F any more...forget those silly new students who might care and help the vets...)
2/10 pain. Lol I was ran over by some jackass garbage truck in Vancouver WA years ago. I had to get titanium in my spine and ankle. Terrible incident. You know what's hilarious about that? I wore a Don't Tread on Me sweatshirt. In goldenrod yellow. Absolutely hilarious. I come back from Tattooine and meeting the Sand People and I get run over by the most mundane thing ever. You would think I would die in actual combat. In over 120 degree weather. And sand. And the best part was I had the right of way in a crosswalk. How does that work out?
Honestly my only quibble is the lack of any attempt at actually impersonating his voice. Otherwise this is more in the nature of a documentary than satire.
Lol. I went for a hep B vaccine and wound up with a Depo Provero shot ( luckily I wasn’t pregnant) - not at the VA I had a friend who had a hysterectomy, closed with staples, the next day they came and removed the staples - whoops- again, not the VA. How about the fentanyl over doses- like a million mcg of fentanyl per patient - not the VA..... and the list goes on and on. I guess u could insert any healthcare system into the title and it’s still the same
One I thing I usually like about you is that you seem to spend your energy trying to encourage team building and systems improvement. This video just provided an arena for continued bashing of the VA and relishing in any error that the system has ever made. Your two sentence "memo" under the video is like fine print. No one really reads it so it may as well not be there.
I have a lot of respect for ZDogg and his crew. But this is insulting. I hear the same stories from all types of medical organizations. I know we are not perfect. It can be hard to fire someone. But as large as the VA is, we have more good than bad. Most of us do what we can to compensate for the staff that are shitbags. In fact, I argue that despite those idiots, we provide top level care as best we can. I know nurses that are as tough as a bulldog in fighting for their patients. I have done it myself. Call patients to check up on them. To imply that our staff are not competent or do not care is farthest from the truth. Insulting videos like this, even with the comedy angle, is not helping. It is perpetuating a myth that the VA is broken. You want to talk about standing up for our front line staff? Try standing up for those of us who serve the frontlines of the VA. Build up, not tearing down.
Shhh. He's making fun of the BAD ones. Of course there are good and great ones but there's nothing to poke fun at. He's exaggerating for comedic effect. And it's DOC VADER so c'mon, lighten up 😉.
Really what state are you in? HI or MO, if so those are only two out of 6 states Va hospitals that i been to that have been good. I hear some satellite locations can be good but most of us who need surgery's an specialists go to main hospitals an that what i am speaking to. Every surgery i have gotten has been botched, with permanent side effects that could been avoided. POS system is different for every state VA facility, ones who lack funding like Maryland have worst system i have ever see. I have Doc ask me to print thing out from other VA's i been to cause their system is to hard to find things. Staff showing up to work in street cloths cant even tell if they work there or not as not ID visible. You need to explore many states to get accurate statment an Zdog is correct as i was ounce told "if you want be seen go to civilian Doc i dont have time i see you again in July" that was on Sep...
Yes you are, its sad if your mind is good from all the bad yoh see. Then you are quickly burnt out an some cant help it an end up like all the other not caring staff.
Ummm.... this was horrible.. we all know that government is horrible but to knock the nurses and doctors that do their best to take care of these hero’s while dealing with the politics is horrid
As an RN who worked at a VA for 42 years I find your comments about all VA nurses very inaccurate and offensive. There are great and mediocre RNs in all hospital settings. As a Nurse at the VA I took great pride in the delivery of care being pro active utilizing my brain and knowledge while working closely with the Doctors in the delivery of care not just following orders like a robot.
Oh are you offended rose? This video is spot on. Throwing blood pressure medicine at every patient that comes in isn't proper care. If you were there for 42 years you're definitely part of the problem.
Most doctors that I know had to go through the VA during residency as one of their rotations. They spend a fair amount of time there before they finish their training.
I realize the Doc Vader pieces are supposed to be funny, but this one misses the mark. Usually Doc Vader says things that are truths the healthcare system doesn't want to face. This piece didn't speak any truth to power. Making fun of problems from 3-4 years ago we have been working to fix? Yeah, no. The VA isn't perfect. Show me a huge healthcare system that is. Do we get tired of being the butt of the jokes because our errors are public record? You bet. The huge majority of my co-workers are committed to providing excellent care for our veterans, just as I am. Doc Vader... Go home. You're Force-drunk.
Well sadly out of 6 states that i have lived in i have only gotten real treatment for my kidneys, TBI and PTSD in 2 VA hospitals ( not satellite locations ). Wost i ever have witnessed is Maryland VA, state doesnt fund them well an many works will tell you "o well", "what do you want me to do about it", "i dont know, maybe try private sector for better care". These are just a few smart statements told to me. Patient advocate's are a joke they dont follow up an when they do they pass the buck on to someone else. I thought the VA system in Alabama was bad but this place is horrible. I can go on an on but what will it do... he is right most of the VA are terrible to the vets an care less.
Oh just stop. Problems from 3-4 years ago? Try problems of today. Things are not any better so just stop trying to say "not me" which only verifies that you are part of the problem rather than the solution. Are there good people employed within the VA system, of course there are, but the system needs help on mass. Start being a part of the solution rather than trying to skew the truth. Doc is right, deal with it.
@@y0ur_name_here True, I currently cant get any help for my issues as they down play them. So i spent my own money and saw private specialist and he was an wasnt shocked by what VA doc said but stated need taken care of asap... go figure.
@@lifeofavet7057 yep, I would be here if I waited for the VA to get around to treating me. Paid out of pocket for doctors and treatment. They are a mess that needs serious attention.
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As a vet, that has been going to the VA for 25 yrs.....they have only tried to kill me twice...literally.
I desparately needed this laugh after a shitty week at the VA. Thanks!
Accurate. Let’s not forget CPRS and all the time spent waiting on the spinning blue circle of death every time you so much as move the cursor. CPRS is like the Johnny Cash song “One Piece At a Time”
This video was hot fire. Please do more on the VA. Keep up the great work!
My Dad is a Veteran, so I know about the Dark Side of VA care. Veterans deserve the best care available and yet most are treated badly. So sad! Unfortunately, Doc Vader speaks the Truth.
❤God bless our Veterans❤
My husband is a Vietnam Combat Veteran (USMC). I’m a retired Nurse. I was laughing so hard watching this. I can laugh now, but my hubby finally got his VA Disability last year. It was a long, hard process.
That VA Nurse joke was great. 👍
You forgot the third difference between bullet and VA RN..... Bullet can draw blood
That's a zinger!
omg yes. I had a guy miss 4 times, and each left a welt.
On the first shot!
Zinga!!!
5 years later and I'm still waiting on my patient's VA records that were requested. Still holding out hope
The last hope, it’s been 8 years you still holding out
@@keeks8817 :D The VA here finally integrated electronic records with our system this year. Miracles do happen
Its true. The vets are indestructible. I loved my VA rotations when I was a med student.
Helps that a lot of them have actually led reasonably healthy lives.
They should give Veterans free access to the Cadillac Plans Congress gets and let Congress deal with the VA!!! That sounds more than fair!!
This!
Almost daily I have to say, “this is an order, not a suggestion.” Spot on! I laughed at this video but also found myself sad that even outsiders clearly see the issues.
As a former VA RN and spouse of a Vet.........you crack me up! Carry on, Doc. ☄️🔥💥
As a former employee of the VA in the Out Patient/Mail-order Pharmacy Department and a Disabled Vet, you were pretty spot-on! 😂 Keep up the great work Doc Vader! And try not to "force-choke" the staff too much! ☺😃😂
There are so many videos of yours that I have shared with my colleagues and have done nothing but raved about you. This past week I watched all of your new podcasts which were brilliantly done. I am a nurse at the Fargo VA and have been for the last 3 years. I was very saddened by this video. Yes. Everyone can say that Fargo, North Dakota is a small city which does not serve the numbers that other VAs do. However, we take care of our Veterans. I have also worked in the private sector for many years so I have seen both sides. The difference at the Fargo VA and the private sector is that we can spend time with patients which in turn promotes actually listening to the patient's needs, ordering the correct tests and communicating with other disciplines to set up a plan of care for each individual patient. I apologize to the veterans if they do not get the care that they deserve but please do not lump all VAs together. I am very proud to be a nurse at the VA and will continue to give top-notch care to every veteran I come in contact with. I just wish that the media would quit destroying the reputation of the VA and begin to support us.
www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Fargo-VA-one-of-the-top-in-the-country-405360435.html
Ok Karen.
The nest way to deal with it let Vader handle it
My wife is a CRNA at the VA. I love this!
The VA took very good care of my Aunt and Uncle here in South Dakota. Both were 2 of the most difficult patients nurses ever had to deal with!
ZDogg, you are the Goat!
We love this !
The (VA) force is strong with this one!
As a vet. So true.
This is great!!!
When I found out my intern year salary would come from the VA, I made sure it didn't make me a VA pt.
My brother has had some of the worst and lots of the best care from his VA hospitals. He was written off in another city, then on heart transplant list & improved w/o transplant, w/help of San Antonio transplant cardio team & 5 lead pacemaker. 6+ yrs doing great!
I had a wonderful experience doing part of my medical training at the VA. I thought the docs and nurses were generally very good and really cared about the vets. Also the VA offered better social and mental health services than the private hospitals I worked at. If you're homeless and come to a regular hospital, you'll be discharged back to the street once your treatment is done. If you're homeless and got admitted to our VA, usually we were able to get the vet into housing. Additionally, we were never pressured to discharge patients rapidly and we were able to keep vets in the hospital for "social" issues, whereas a regular hospital would definitely kick them out because of the fee for service model. For example if there was a vulnerable vet who needed their discharge delayed for social reasons like they're 90 years old and it's a snowstorm outside, we could just keep them overnight and wouldn't be pressured to discharge because they no longer met medical necessity to stay in the hospital. If your 90 year old gets discharged onto a snowstorm and breaks their hip, in a regular hospital you have just made big big bucks with the hip replacement you are about to do. In the VA there is more focus on the veteran's overall health.
I don't want to make it sound perfect, there are lots of downsides to the VA as well. I worked at a relatively small VA so I never experienced much bureaucratic hassle, but I can imagine working at a huge VA hospital would involve a lot of those issues. But overall I think the VA is a wonderful system that has some problems, but also has some real benefits.
I must add that the vast majority of VA nurses I've worked with are amazing and do a great job. The stereotype of the lazy VA nurse has not been true in my experience. You do meet some back office and support people who are kind of lackadaisical. Our telephone operators were hilariously incompetent and sometimes you do get support staff who inexplicably can't do stuff. I recently spoke to a VA liason whose primary job is to smooth transitions for vets who are admitted to my private hospital, and she could not fax me medical records because she said she didn't have a fax machine in her office (presumably there was a fax machine somewhere in her entire facility that she could use). So you do end up with weird issues like that and a bit more of a can't-do attitude from some staff.
Also VA food is really bad.
This series is fuckin lit
This is HILARIOUS! LMFAO!!!
I wanted to laugh but a recent VA experience still has me pissed off. Overheard phlebotomists talking and one wasn’t happy about the new schedule. He said he wasn’t going to come in, followed up by “What are they going to do? Fire me?”
Cracking me up 🤣🤣😂
As a vet I find this hilarious but i've honestly had amazing nurses so i guess i' one of the lucky ones. Either way funny AF
I use to take my father-in-law to the VA a lot. Once in the Urgent clinic, they started an IV on him, gave him Lasix push in the IV and sent him home. We lived about 20 miles from the hospital, and of course he had to urinate all the home. Our first stop was a gas station that refused to let him use the employee only restroom. I will always remember him trying to contain his dignity and the constant urge to void.
Nailed it
VA nurse joke 😂😂😂
unfortunately, this is all true. Best comedy comes from real life
LMFAO! “2/10 pain” #truth
Hahahah Very well done!
As a former Marine I understand the humor, However my Doctor at my Vet has saved my life not once yes twice...
I felt fortunate that I only had to go to the VA to do a outside doctor consult, never as an employee. I was never good at staying on the lines on the floor.
So so true.
Instead of joking about the fronline staff, how about the administrators, the ones who get big bonuses for doing "more with less"; and meeting the "numbers" of scheduled patients, no matter how small the staff numbers are.
In the area where I worked, at a large VA, we had double the number of patients that we should have had, and being on call meant being on call 24/7 for an entire week (we only had dayshift staff). If you worked your entire shift, and got called in all evening and night, you were still expected to show up for your regular shift. If you made a mistake, you got thrown under the bus. All of our outpatients were pissed, and I am still amazed that none of us got into car accidents. After our department head left, we suddenly got our staff doubled, and got big raises. The new Dept head actually cared about his dept, his staff, and the veterans.
I worked for 17 years in the private sector at a level one trauma center. I have seen many more people fired at the VA than at the private hospital.
I know this is a "Doc Vader" episode, but please direct your wicked humor towards those who deserve it, not those of us who have worked in administratively terrible conditions, trying to give the veterans the best care that we can.
This is funny as hell. That said, my Dr. at the VA in NYC is the best. She has no problem calling me, unlike some civilian Dr. There, I don’t feel like I’m on some kind of high speed conveyor belt when I’m in the doctor’s office. Not to mention, the sardine can they call a waiting room in some of these private hospitals. My best experience was with the VA hospital NY Harbor and Cornell Medical Center. Maybe I’m just lucky.
I'm dead! I died laughing. Not the worst way to go.
I love this Doc Vader skit, had me howling at 2/10 pain. Win, win, win, win, win! However, socialized medicine saved my life, so I’m protective of open access to health care.
I did my RN rotation at the VA at American Lake. A huge ward, beds everywhere! The one patient I remember best got no, no attention/care during the four hours I was there, for 2 week rotation. Shameful.
Fortunately, for the most part, I've had experiences with the practicing side of the VA that range from okay to pretty great... but BILLING IS A FREAKING NIGHTMARE. Also, the Choice Program is a whole new level of broken...
Same with prison nurses worst 3 years of my life as a nurse there
lol not gunna lie, this hit a bit close to home in a funny way.
Just think. There can't be "a better" if there is no worse. So at least the VA is establishing a worse situation in some order of rank.
I worked at a VA many yrs ago. I worked my ass off. Chonic unerstaffing, burnt out nurses, nurses and RT with substance abuse while working. Nurses missing durningsexual hook ups. Fabulous nurses fled. Environment filthy. That was. More then 35 years ago. I pray that it has. Those were sample pronblems
Yeah, the pain thing. It says “worst pain you can imagine.” One time I popped one of my floater ribs out of position and had a hard time breathing so I had to hit urgent care. Walked in, said I’m in a lot of pain, 4/10. They take my BP and it’s like 160/120 or something and the nurse it like “OMG! What’s normal for you?” Usually 110/70 I said I was in a lot of pain. 😂 She’s like why didn’t you say 10/10? And I’m like “I can imagine much worse.”
True story! Couldn't stop laughing at this
I once had a VA DOC. She tried to tell me that I could cure my knee pain with my Chi. By placing one hand on my knee and the other hand on my ankle for 20 minutes a day and my body’s energy would regenerate Cartlidge. 2 out of 10 pain BWHAHAHAHAHA
So epic
I like a segment on what can we really do about these appalling workers an environment that vets are exposed to from these bad VA facilities?
The job of the VA is not to care for vets, it is to delay and deny until the vet gives up or (preferably) dies. (preferably because dead vets cant get a lawyer or call their congress critter)
VA patients are not indestructible. If that's true, they should be reaching 100 range. I never saw one, Doctor.
VA staff can be fired. Happens all the time. Also didn’t you just have someone on your show who needed fluids and didn’t get them in a private hospital? Like all healthcare settings there’s good ones and there’s bad ones, good staff bad staff. I’ve worked in the Minnesota VA’s and the care was very good. Our patients say so too.
Yes, there is good and bad everyone.
I can't speak for Minnesota, but my experiences are:
1. The VA works in government time (which is to say unnecessarily slow)
2. The EHR is antiquated, if not obsolete,
3. Yes you CAN fire people, but at the very least, there is a high level of complacency.
Don't be defensive Ona - you know that what he's saying is broadly true.
Arpita Kodagu my concern is that it isn’t broadly true. There’s a movement out there that wants to privatize the va as well as the post office by making it funny to denigrate the services and purposely set them up to fail. While he’s dissing the VA I know of two seriously impaired physicians who practice surgery drunk in a private hospital. Why? Because of the good old doc boys club and surgeons bring in money. I know the VA could definitely improve things but this isn’t going to help. They are actually better at some thing’s, have done spectacular research. Lots of the highly sophisticated prosthetics were developed by the VA for example. Leading TBA rehab techniques are coming out of the VA, and more.
I'm writing this sitting in my desk at a pretty large VA and I think he is broadly true. There's amazing people working here on all levels but in general i don't think he is too far off, personally speaking
The VA directly next door to our hospital has a main phone number that's inverse to our IT Helpdesk. Ours is ABA-#### and theirs is BAB-####. We get their patients calling us ALL THE TIME!!!!
And the VA probably gets your patients calling them all the time too
Unlikely. Our main number is nothing like their number.
I can also concur.... My service chief is king of the sh*t heads...and proud of it.....only half of them are... But they're there, and will never be fired.
Doc... You be da bomb... I'm not a real Doctor but I play one on TV... You da bomb... ROTFLMAO
Talk about truth in jest
That place broke my heart seeing how my late father was treated . Tylenol # 3 for metastatic bronchogenic carcinoma. God the suffering he went thru . :(
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I spent a total of almost 2 years in a combat zone and they won’t take care of me at the VA because I didn’t end up with any chronic problems from my service. 🤦♀️ #supporter
It’s like thank you for your service, now here comes some sh***y healthcare 🤦♂️
Best video on youtube! Lol i love it since its ALL true. I honestly dont know how people survive at the VA lol
We barely do, check BP of a vet before va appointment and then after. Basically we always leave mad an feel disrespected or like we are being tosed around with no answers.
I have been on VA care for 3 years and I have received as good, if not, better treatment that I did in the private sector. I take full advantage of VA Choice where I can get a local private provider and not have to worry "if my plan covers this" - where care is restricted to some private insurance bureaucrat - who are worse than you find at the VA because there is a financial incentive to deny or minimize care. I was diagnosed with cancer last year. It was detected early because the VA is uber-aggressive with preventative care and this was caught because they were very thorough after I had a bladder infection. My meds come in the mail - free, and I can call my PCP's nurse any day, get a return call the same day, and someone taking care of my issue. Things got kicked into the higher gear when Trump kicked a few asses and within weeks, you could see things get better. You can say what you want, Darth Vader, but I don't see what you claim in this video. This may have been true under BHO, but not now. BTW, a significant number of those who work for the VA are 1099 contractors who can be dumped anytime.
So, bust the VA unions. You trained at Palo Alto VA, and you say about this VA? Imagine how others VA hospitals are like.
This is an extremely offensive display of unintellectual rhetoric and half truths....I play Tetris all the time on a government PC and I NEVER win. NEVER
You had me going in the first half.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 2/10 YUP Vet here, people look at me like I am a nut job when I tell them the pain I just live with on a daily basis as normal...And the VA is seriously hit or miss, some people get great care but I have not. And they refuse to hire nurses right out of school for some reason (some of us in my class are trying to get hired on and they only want experienced nurses who are burned out, bitter, and don't give A flying F any more...forget those silly new students who might care and help the vets...)
ROTFL! This is awesome. It is about 82% wrong, but the remaining 18% is dead-on. :-)
2/10 pain. Lol
I was ran over by some jackass garbage truck in Vancouver WA years ago. I had to get titanium in my spine and ankle. Terrible incident. You know what's hilarious about that? I wore a Don't Tread on Me sweatshirt. In goldenrod yellow. Absolutely hilarious. I come back from Tattooine and meeting the Sand People and I get run over by the most mundane thing ever. You would think I would die in actual combat. In over 120 degree weather. And sand. And the best part was I had the right of way in a crosswalk.
How does that work out?
Honestly my only quibble is the lack of any attempt at actually impersonating his voice. Otherwise this is more in the nature of a documentary than satire.
Lol. I went for a hep B vaccine and wound up with a Depo Provero shot ( luckily I wasn’t pregnant) - not at the VA
I had a friend who had a hysterectomy, closed with staples, the next day they came and removed the staples - whoops- again, not the VA.
How about the fentanyl over doses- like a million mcg of fentanyl per patient - not the VA..... and the list goes on and on. I guess u could insert any healthcare system into the title and it’s still the same
most of the commenters didn't get the memo.
One I thing I usually like about you is that you seem to spend your energy trying to encourage team building and systems improvement. This video just provided an arena for continued bashing of the VA and relishing in any error that the system has ever made. Your two sentence "memo" under the video is like fine print. No one really reads it so it may as well not be there.
I have a lot of respect for ZDogg and his crew. But this is insulting. I hear the same stories from all types of medical organizations. I know we are not perfect. It can be hard to fire someone. But as large as the VA is, we have more good than bad. Most of us do what we can to compensate for the staff that are shitbags. In fact, I argue that despite those idiots, we provide top level care as best we can. I know nurses that are as tough as a bulldog in fighting for their patients. I have done it myself. Call patients to check up on them. To imply that our staff are not competent or do not care is farthest from the truth. Insulting videos like this, even with the comedy angle, is not helping. It is perpetuating a myth that the VA is broken. You want to talk about standing up for our front line staff? Try standing up for those of us who serve the frontlines of the VA. Build up, not tearing down.
Shhh. He's making fun of the BAD ones. Of course there are good and great ones but there's nothing to poke fun at. He's exaggerating for comedic effect. And it's DOC VADER so c'mon, lighten up 😉.
Really what state are you in? HI or MO, if so those are only two out of 6 states Va hospitals that i been to that have been good. I hear some satellite locations can be good but most of us who need surgery's an specialists go to main hospitals an that what i am speaking to.
Every surgery i have gotten has been botched, with permanent side effects that could been avoided. POS system is different for every state VA facility, ones who lack funding like Maryland have worst system i have ever see. I have Doc ask me to print thing out from other VA's i been to cause their system is to hard to find things. Staff showing up to work in street cloths cant even tell if they work there or not as not ID visible.
You need to explore many states to get accurate statment an Zdog is correct as i was ounce told "if you want be seen go to civilian Doc i dont have time i see you again in July" that was on Sep...
I guess I should say I got “lucky” the VA turned down my application for an RN position??? 🤔😱🤷🏻♀️😆
Yes you are, its sad if your mind is good from all the bad yoh see. Then you are quickly burnt out an some cant help it an end up like all the other not caring staff.
But let’s definitely have Medicare for all so everyone can experience the joy of government idiocy
Ummm.... this was horrible.. we all know that government is horrible but to knock the nurses and doctors that do their best to take care of these hero’s while dealing with the politics is horrid
As an RN who worked at a VA for 42 years I find your comments about all VA nurses very inaccurate and offensive. There are great and mediocre RNs in all hospital settings. As a Nurse at the VA I took great pride in the delivery of care being pro active utilizing my brain and knowledge while working closely with the Doctors in the delivery of care not just following orders like a robot.
I am also a VA nurse. This skit is super offensive
Take a joke ffs
For the people in the back, this video isn’t about you!!!
Oh are you offended rose? This video is spot on. Throwing blood pressure medicine at every patient that comes in isn't proper care. If you were there for 42 years you're definitely part of the problem.
va SUCKS
Bet you don't work at the VA and that you're not a vet.
Most doctors that I know had to go through the VA during residency as one of their rotations. They spend a fair amount of time there before they finish their training.
I realize the Doc Vader pieces are supposed to be funny, but this one misses the mark. Usually Doc Vader says things that are truths the healthcare system doesn't want to face. This piece didn't speak any truth to power. Making fun of problems from 3-4 years ago we have been working to fix? Yeah, no. The VA isn't perfect. Show me a huge healthcare system that is. Do we get tired of being the butt of the jokes because our errors are public record? You bet. The huge majority of my co-workers are committed to providing excellent care for our veterans, just as I am. Doc Vader... Go home. You're Force-drunk.
Well sadly out of 6 states that i have lived in i have only gotten real treatment for my kidneys, TBI and PTSD in 2 VA hospitals ( not satellite locations ). Wost i ever have witnessed is Maryland VA, state doesnt fund them well an many works will tell you "o well", "what do you want me to do about it", "i dont know, maybe try private sector for better care". These are just a few smart statements told to me. Patient advocate's are a joke they dont follow up an when they do they pass the buck on to someone else. I thought the VA system in Alabama was bad but this place is horrible. I can go on an on but what will it do... he is right most of the VA are terrible to the vets an care less.
Oh just stop. Problems from 3-4 years ago? Try problems of today. Things are not any better so just stop trying to say "not me" which only verifies that you are part of the problem rather than the solution. Are there good people employed within the VA system, of course there are, but the system needs help on mass. Start being a part of the solution rather than trying to skew the truth. Doc is right, deal with it.
@@y0ur_name_here True, I currently cant get any help for my issues as they down play them. So i spent my own money and saw private specialist and he was an wasnt shocked by what VA doc said but stated need taken care of asap... go figure.
@@lifeofavet7057 yep, I would be here if I waited for the VA to get around to treating me. Paid out of pocket for doctors and treatment. They are a mess that needs serious attention.