Excellent videos - Thank you for the clear explanations of basics which allows players to make meaningful choices from the very start! I hope in the future you'll upgrade the visuals with videos and not just still photographs.
Link to Warmaster Revolution rules and Army lists www.wm-revolution.com/articles/download.html Welcome to Warmaster Playlist : ruclips.net/p/PLsHhQn7iT5y65Jrk9PerunBIvlHkijAsE Faction Focus Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLsHhQn7iT5y5zGyq36nzjDAlZXhKeajhj Battle Report Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLsHhQn7iT5y6c-wAyv4sh3XM_quMzqcWz
Ushabti would absolutely have special rules - immunity to terror / confusion. In a similar vein, thematically Blood Knights can't substitute Black Knights since they would work more like ghouls being able to act on initiative etc
Yes all undead units have army wide rules. Undead units are immune to terror, ignore confusion, and ignore enemy proximity. But have no initiative. This has no impact upon their points value though, as the negative trait is balanced by the positive traits. My point is that Ushabti should have no special rules in addition to being undead, so should be costed like a unit that had no other special rules. Hope this makes sense. I understand that your interpretation of blood knights is that they should be alive in the same way ghouls are. But blood knights don't exist in warmaster. So making black knights a little bit better by giving them a magic item allows you to represent blood knights, just by the fact that they can perform better on the battlefield than the black knights. Warmaster does not try to recreate warhammer in a smaller scale. It is a different game. But please use the experimental rules forum to add your ideas for consideration by the rules committee.
Loved this video. And also wondered where you got your tomb guard and Ubshabti miniatures. My Ubshabti came from polar fox. Also I love using g the black ork stat line for the Ushabti along with the balance of not using one of the larger constructs or both in your case.
Thanks for watching. Ushabti from magister militum and tomb guard from pendraken. I've submitted an alternate tomb kings list on the wmr experimental forum.
Was wondering take warhammer list and warmaster list and compare to figure out a pattern how they translate over then you could carry over desired units (yes much play testing) but some fun research
Whichever rule set you use (either fantasy or ancients) the other side will suffer. Fantasy armies are far more powerful than their ancient counterparts, while ancients have skirmishers, that fantasy armies cannot counter. However with some forethought you can make it work. I always wanted to play Romans vs Tomb Kings.
I like the point about adding new units but I have to ask, why don't tomb kings have the Ushabti and Tomb Guard? Whenever they made that tomb king list they clearly did not think it through well enough or possibly was it a balance choice? This is the only sour spot for me about this game so far, some key units in some factions that really should be there are missing and seemingly after years of play testing there is nothing on the horizon for these units and it is a shame.
Why not make up your own rules? I have made my Ushabti to be 4/4/5+ infantry with the Slow rule from Warmaster Ancients. No one has come around to arrest me yet! Sure, I don't go to tournaments and am lucky to have a group that is open to experimenting and house ruling.
The warmaster tomb king list was the first army list produced for tomb kings in any game system, so it pre dates the warhammer tomb king army by several years. This is why there are no ushabti or tomb guard, they had not been invented then! The list is designed to have weak infantry on purpose, the strength of the army are chariots, artillery and magic. If you want to add your own units to the army please do, and why not put your suggestions on the experimental rules forum.
I second @Death1942 's wish to see more units from Warhammer being directly represented in Warmaster. I fully understand the principles behind the smaller army lists, the magic items and such, but outside of the game balance, I think it would do quite a bit to seduce the former Warhammer player to come and try Warmaster. Anyhow, I am very pleased to have discovered the experimental forum, there are some really cool stuff there (like an extended Tumb Kings list)
@@iainmstanding but they produced models for them? or are those a 3rd party model? surely rules must have showed up at some point, that should have been incorporated to revolution?
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Link to Warmaster experimental rules forum
wmrexperimental.freeforums.net/
Great video. Been looking to return to WM after years away, and this will help me to get an army off the ground. Thanks for sharing.
very useful video for a newcomer. thnx alot!
Excellent videos - Thank you for the clear explanations of basics which allows players to make meaningful choices from the very start!
I hope in the future you'll upgrade the visuals with videos and not just still photographs.
Really nice work. Haven´t played WM for.. years. But this gets me back on the hook.
Great video mate, I really appreciate these and your battle reports.
Awesome video! thanks so much for your work :)
Link to Warmaster Revolution rules and Army lists
www.wm-revolution.com/articles/download.html
Welcome to Warmaster Playlist : ruclips.net/p/PLsHhQn7iT5y65Jrk9PerunBIvlHkijAsE
Faction Focus Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLsHhQn7iT5y5zGyq36nzjDAlZXhKeajhj
Battle Report Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLsHhQn7iT5y6c-wAyv4sh3XM_quMzqcWz
Link to Warmaster experimental rules forum
wmrexperimental.freeforums.net/
Link to Warmaster army builder app
wm-selector.appspot.com/#/
@@iainmstanding Woah I didn't know about this forum, thanks for the discovery!
Ushabti would absolutely have special rules - immunity to terror / confusion. In a similar vein, thematically Blood Knights can't substitute Black Knights since they would work more like ghouls being able to act on initiative etc
Yes all undead units have army wide rules. Undead units are immune to terror, ignore confusion, and ignore enemy proximity. But have no initiative. This has no impact upon their points value though, as the negative trait is balanced by the positive traits. My point is that Ushabti should have no special rules in addition to being undead, so should be costed like a unit that had no other special rules. Hope this makes sense.
I understand that your interpretation of blood knights is that they should be alive in the same way ghouls are. But blood knights don't exist in warmaster. So making black knights a little bit better by giving them a magic item allows you to represent blood knights, just by the fact that they can perform better on the battlefield than the black knights.
Warmaster does not try to recreate warhammer in a smaller scale. It is a different game. But please use the experimental rules forum to add your ideas for consideration by the rules committee.
Great video! Very helpful.
These lo0k great!
Soundtrack for Conan, sweet.
Loved this video. And also wondered where you got your tomb guard and Ubshabti miniatures. My Ubshabti came from polar fox. Also I love using g the black ork stat line for the Ushabti along with the balance of not using one of the larger constructs or both in your case.
Thanks for watching. Ushabti from magister militum and tomb guard from pendraken. I've submitted an alternate tomb kings list on the wmr experimental forum.
Prob we should write rules for elite units ^^ Thx for your video
:)
Thanks for watching !
Was wondering take warhammer list and warmaster list and compare to figure out a pattern how they translate over then you could carry over desired units (yes much play testing) but some fun research
I want to play dwarves yet worried that armies with Calvary will easily beat me senseless with them.
What did you end up doing? If you love Dwarfs I would not look back.
Nice video. Is it possible to play ancient armies vs fantasy or is the balancing different?
Whichever rule set you use (either fantasy or ancients) the other side will suffer. Fantasy armies are far more powerful than their ancient counterparts, while ancients have skirmishers, that fantasy armies cannot counter. However with some forethought you can make it work. I always wanted to play Romans vs Tomb Kings.
I like the point about adding new units but I have to ask, why don't tomb kings have the Ushabti and Tomb Guard? Whenever they made that tomb king list they clearly did not think it through well enough or possibly was it a balance choice?
This is the only sour spot for me about this game so far, some key units in some factions that really should be there are missing and seemingly after years of play testing there is nothing on the horizon for these units and it is a shame.
Why not make up your own rules? I have made my Ushabti to be 4/4/5+ infantry with the Slow rule from Warmaster Ancients. No one has come around to arrest me yet! Sure, I don't go to tournaments and am lucky to have a group that is open to experimenting and house ruling.
The warmaster tomb king list was the first army list produced for tomb kings in any game system, so it pre dates the warhammer tomb king army by several years. This is why there are no ushabti or tomb guard, they had not been invented then!
The list is designed to have weak infantry on purpose, the strength of the army are chariots, artillery and magic.
If you want to add your own units to the army please do, and why not put your suggestions on the experimental rules forum.
@@matslarsson6919 That is a great rule for ushabti Mats.
I second @Death1942 's wish to see more units from Warhammer being directly represented in Warmaster.
I fully understand the principles behind the smaller army lists, the magic items and such, but outside of the game balance, I think it would do quite a bit to seduce the former Warhammer player to come and try Warmaster.
Anyhow, I am very pleased to have discovered the experimental forum, there are some really cool stuff there (like an extended Tumb Kings list)
@@iainmstanding but they produced models for them? or are those a 3rd party model? surely rules must have showed up at some point, that should have been incorporated to revolution?
Empire Spell list, the best of the game ? Have you ever play againt tomb king or Orcs with twice sorcerer and cataclysmic spells :)
Check out my videos on tomb kings, orcs, and vampires. They all have great spell lists.
where are the links?
wmrexperimental.freeforums.net/thread/64/alternate-tomb-kings-list
Link to free Warmaster Army building app
wm-selector.appspot.com/#/