The City Required Us To Pour This Sidewalk To Nowhere
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- You’re probably wondering what’s going on there… We’ll get to that at the end.
One of the requirements for the warehouse we just built is that we pour a sidewalk the entire length of the property- all 300 feet.
After the guys got done floating the concrete, they snapped lines every 4 feet and put in control joints with a groover tool.
Then, they broom finished the concrete for traction.
Our city required that we apply a curing compound to the sidewalk, this stuff went on easy with a roller and left it with a bright white finish.
Next, I used my Ventrac with the power rake to blend the ground between the original terrain and the sidewalk.
This rake knocks off the high spots and fills in the low areas.
You can see here what a nice job it did.
The Ventrac is really lightweight so I can drive across the new concrete without damaging it.
Because this sidewalk is in the middle of nowhere and doesn’t connect to anything, we were curious if anyone would use it.
We decided to hide out so we could surprise and congratulate the first person. @hausplans
#build #howto #concrete #sidewalk #construction #diy #contractor #ventrac #powerrake
I thought about the dilemma here. The answer is that sidewalk will get extended when next property gets developed. So on and so on. Keep up the good work 👍🏽
Thanks for watching 🦺👍
Smart dude I wouldn't have even thought about it I just put the concrete where they said😂
Came here to say the same. The water department I work for requires developer to extend the water main across the entire parcel rather than just tap the main that is already on the edge of their property. Developers are there for profit and the City/ municipality is there for growth and to keep costs down for their bottom line.
@@joebranch488that’s why people pay taxes… but it all goes into the back pockets of politicians and Councils etc
@@1800dontcareand his property taxes should cover maintenance/future replacement of the sidewalk, but why should his business benefit from public infrastructure on the first day without chipping in towards that same infrastructure?
It may lead nowhere now, but in 6 years, somebody is gonna underapreciate your work.
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Lol
😂😂 too true
Depends if it's maintained properly.
Many sidewalks gets overgrown by weeds and causes cracks everywhere.
6 years?! I already do.
That looks like a quality concrete sidewalk. I’d feel proud to walk it.
Thanks
Ditto.
Until it's summer and the next shade tree is over a mile away
@@roach7202That’s not the sidewalks production qualities fault though
Ditto
As a long distance runner, I am always grateful when I don't have to run on sketchy shoulders. This kind of thing adds to safety even when you don't expect it.
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That's interesting as most runners around my area won't run of sidewalks, preferring the asphalt road. Something about the asphalt is 'softer' and more 'flexible', which is a mis-extension of that concept as it applies to roadbeds for cars vs heavy vehicles (+4000 lbs) and not the impact of a 150lb runner.
@@crosslink1493 I know a lot of runners don't like hard running surfaces, but I prefer them.
@@crosslink1493actually cement Vs asphalt is a genuine concern for anyone who spends time on their feet. Factories often use hard rubber bricks or hardwood blocks for their floors to minimize the impact on workers bodies
This has nothing to do with the comment, but I thought it said “long distance manner”
for a second, and cool name.
As a warehouse worker who walks to work, thank you! 😊
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Yep am also using using the sidewalks in the industrial area by my work that most people think don’t get used
Ever think about getting an ebike?
@@joeleming9605 I own one and love it. My one issue is how much ebike theft there is locally. Not terribly worried, but I won't lock it up somewhere that isn't publicly visible.
@@joeleming9605I'm heavily supportive of biking to work and do it myself, but it's really hard for the average person if there aren't bike lanes. In my city we have some bike lanes, but we also lose a bunch of cyclists and pedestrians who were following the traffic rules.
Several months ago a daytime DUI killed a bike commuter on the same route I take to work.
After being hit by a car on my own street, I spent 2 years convincing my city to build a sidewalk and let me tell you, I have a new great appreciation for the people who do the work you do. I just want to say thank you. Much respect from Alaska. :)
As someone whos stuck using the side of the road most of the time thank you
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Isn't that the work of government to develop sidewalks? Don't they take our money as taxes to develop city infrastructure?
@@lordjaashinsadly they don't treat sidewalks with the same importance as car infrastructure. Especially in car oriented places.
As someone who has had to walk from point A to point B at one point I promise you , that random sidewalk will be a blessing to someone someday 😂
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At bare minimum it will be greatly appreciated by anybody that breaks down near there. But, you'll probably also find people working there that walk along it at times for a bit of a stretch to their legs.
I bet you're a button pusher who likes to hold up traffic
@@jacobg6528y'all are just on your hands and knees on the floor slowly and carefully looking thru each and every nook and cranny trying to find some shit to get pissed off at others for. "oh you're a pedestrian using the button meant for pedestrians to help them cross the street, why the fuck would you ever do that dumbass" like it's such an inconvenience and you can't wait an extra 20 seconds in your big fast metal box that will get you to where you need to go as fast you choose anyway
@@jacobg6528 ima be honest idk what that is
I lived in a neighborhood that when originally built they voted to install Bradford pear trees in every yard instead of sidewalks. 5 years later a Midwest storm tore down almost every single tree. Then we had no sidewalks or trees 😢.
Wow
Bradford pears are chosen because they are a clean, healthy looking species with disease resistance. However, they often have whats called included bark at the base of the limbs where the limbs meet the trunk. It makes for weak limbs and trees that are easily susceptible to storm damage.
They are the most invasive plant possible. If a city wants to be eco friendly they'd ban them, they've destroyed so many ecosystems
And now consider an invasive species in a lot of places across the country
@@Tony-InLosAngeles I’ll consider an invasive species. Which one should I consider?
As one of those weird people who finds themselves walking along miles of road without sidewalks, thanks for putting this up. Under requirement or just being neighborly, you guys probably won't even notice the people you help out.
If people get used out of it, that would make me happy👍😊
Honestly I agree. I wish the city I live in would connect all the subdivisions with sidewalks.
as someone who doesn't live in America, not being able to just walk to places is so so crazy
Well, that's certainly consolation for having to pointlessly spend 5-15l thousand dollars, some weird person you wont even see might very briefly enjoy it at some point.
Imagine randomly walking across a sidewalk and you get congratulated for being the first person to walk on it 😂
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I wouldn't feel threatened.
Yeah, that didn't look set up at ALL!
Imagine walking down a sidewalk and seeing 2 or 3 grown men crouching in a ditch with a (phone) pointed at you and what your reaction would likely be
i did
I never thought the creation of sidewalks would be so satisfying to watch
Im glad you got that warehouse done i love how it looks
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Do you have an approximate cost on the 300ft sidewalk?
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Why don't you use steel mesh?
I remember in Sims4, the sims magically pop up at the side walks
In my little town we had to pay for the side of our property that was touching the road to build a side walk. My front cost about $1500 but state payed half and I payed half. Honestly worth it because it raised the property value more than the $750 I payed.
Nice
it was worth because you got a quarter of the cost in property value?
@shearnos I think they mean that they increased their property value by more than the $750 investment
@@shearnosman cant do math
@@Steve.._.Dude did you have to say that, now he's doing meth😅
"I SAID LEAVE ME ALONE" kind of got me 😂
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Was that Travis Kelsey?
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The great thing about sidewalks to nowhere is that they are the first part of a sidewalk system to everywhere
Really? Everywhere?
@@CoolHandLukeVol hard to believe, right?
@@benda18It was meant in jest. The sidewalk has to be put in during initial construction for a lot of logical reasons from design, convenience, costs, labor is there etc. Of course you can't go everywhere.
at the private property owners expense which means the city basically gets free sidewalk work done for them and the public how is that fair when its "public property' that's been paid for by a private entity by order of the government
@@KILLKING110 yes, that's the whole point. You generate a destination - a reason to walk or drive somewhere - you need to help install improvements to accommodate that destination. Cities do the exact same thing with driveway pull-off lanes, one of which you probably drove on today without even realizing that the property owner had to install that so that thru -traffic doesn't get backed up.
We're talking about $15,000 out of a project construction budget that's typically around $350,000 on up. If you've personally been harmed by having to install sidewalk that you thought was useless, I'm sorry.
What amazes me that the city requires the company/ owner to build a sidewalk yet its not their property it is the city's.
And no one talks about the man with the stick ....???🎉🎉
“ The strange guy” 😂 should we have him make another appearance and an upcoming video?
He said to leave him alone. SO LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
@@hausplanslove the blind surfer
@@hausplans Yes he was funny.
He looks so happy
"We want walkable cities!"
"Best I can do is sidewalks to nowhere along a strode"
No intelligent person wants walkable cities
*stroad
*troad
This doesn't even look urban, so there's no point talking about walkable cities.
If it only leads to nowhere, the better question is why are you going there?
As new builds happen sidewalks and bike paths get extended and connected automatically. We have many miles of sidewalks that used to be scattered sections that everyone questioned the reasoning of.
Did not see that coming 😂😂😂😂the end is priceless!
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I've never seen a power rake attachment like that! Looks really useful 👍👍
It’s great for putting in new yards. You can angle it right or left and reverse the direction of the drum.
Is this Ventrac proprietary, or can I get one for any tractor?
I never think about the effort that goes into a sidewalk. Y'all did good. That looks really nice.
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In another 100 years, there will be sidewalks connecting all these fragments. But of course the original sections will be crumbling and needing replacement by then.
I thought the same thing, by the time the new ones come in this one might need replacing.
And that will be due that we’re to tight assed to include reo in the pour of the concrete.lol.
Job security
I dont think that will take 100 years nor will the sidewalk need replacement soon. Expected Life span for the Materials are up to 80 years. If cars dont drive on them they very likley make it to that age
Simple, the city simply mandates the upkeep of said sidewalks 😅
When you consider how long and the conditions it took to get basic sanitation I can appreciate this. I hope it gets used before it starts deteriorating. Good job folks!
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Super. We have a lot of that going on. Some of the sidewalks don't even have a way out, so you have to turn around and go back, and some, like the "Oligarchy Ditch" and the "8 Foot Trail" sidewalks don't have a sign telling you that it is a dead end until you get to the end. 💙 T.E.N.
There was a county ordinance similar to this in Springfield Mo in the late 80s or early 90s? Don’t remember exactly.
But a woman was forced to build a sidewalk in front of her company building. It was a warehouse for mail orders. Someone fell and broke their hip trying to walk on a sidewalk, on private property.
The property owner was sued for some crazy amount like 700k or such.
Then it happened again.
Property owner ended up suing the city for 25 million dollars and changed the laws.
I can’t find the news article, but I’m sure it’s out there somewhere.
This should be on the city to put the sidewalk down since it's on a public/ utility easement property!😅😅
Why should taxpayers pay for new development infrastructure? If a developer opens up farmland for housing development then they have to build all the roads, sidewalks, sewer and water supply. Then the city takes over and uses property taxes to maintain it.
The developers are making profits and they should pay for initially installing the infrastructure that services their development, and that includes providing pedestrian access around their development for their customers and the public. They shouldn't be subsidised by taxpayers.
@@joe-s5rsidewalks are a public service, they should be paid for by the public
@@joe-s5ra private sewage connection and a public sidewalk are very different, requiring landowners to build and maintain sidewalks themselves is like making them build the road themselves.
@@thelastant8366 I said that the city has to maintain them, not the landowner. If a developer wants to turn his farmland into housing, or in this case a commercial development. then that have to pay for sidewalks and roads to service the development. A mailman needs a footpath to walk on to deliver your mail. Your land taxes pay to maintain it after it's handed over.
Before a housing development is handed over, all the land is privately owned. The developer must build the roads and sidewalks on his own property before the city will take it over. He can't order the city to build and pay for roads on his property, using money from taxpayers that aren't benefitting from the roads and sidewalks.
You want a house built where there's no road or sidewalk, then you pay for the road and sidewalk. Once it's built, your taxes pay to maintain it. Before it's built, you haven't paid any taxes, and others shouldn't pay it to build your road.
you pay tax for them to build sidewalks and then it turns out the government makes private companies build their own sidewalks......
LOL THE ENDING HAD ME DEAD😂😂😂😂😂
The dead grass really highlights the white finish 😂
It does
Seems like solid work all the way around !! …everyone please enjoy your holidays …all the best to you and yours !!
Thanks, you too!
Love that the guy who used the sidewalk came from the dead end. Meaning he would never have had a chance to leave where he was before you made him a path.
You are straight saints!
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Thank you 🙏 for your service. Our neighborhoods need sidewalks desperately. Your act is not just complicit but also a good deed 🇺🇸🙏
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Don’t worry! I’m a decade or two when it’s old and worn out, people will think “why does that old sidewalk lead nowhere?”
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the way land is being developed the whole riad will be packed with business in 5 years
From a guy in a town that's now realizing we should have implemented this idea a long time ago, I appreciate you following the code and follwing thru with the sidewalk. Our town now has very limited sidewalks, and we'd have to spend probably close to $30 million on sidewalks to connect everything, which is half of our yearly budget for our entire town.
So then lets actually cut the deal then. The people finance the sidewalks and in return the taxes go down 50% ill take that deal
I always appreciate when sidewalks are put in. I wish cities had the foresight to just put them in along all roadways. There are still people who have to walk everywhere they go, and walking on the side of a busy road is always a heart pounding experience.
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As a person, who had to walk to warehouse work on a road with semis blowing past me a few too many times, I wish we had the same rules here.
Greetings from Minsk, Belarus. I sometimes feel like infrastructure here is built by the will of RNG. You can have perfect bike lanes on one side of the block and then have literal WWI trenchwork with pipelines on the other and both would be highlighted as equally viable pedestrian paths😅
That’s for watching, one of the carpenters I work with is from Belarus
Hubby was talking about that the other day. It is on the property buyer to put in a sidewalk because the city doesn't want thet burden. In a city that really needs sidewalks within the city and not around a warehouse on the outskirts...
interesting bit. curious about the true first users
Honestly, haven’t seen one yet
@@hausplans 🤣🤣🤣
Would it be better to buy ventrac compact tractor for landscaping Because of all the attachment comes with it and won’t damage nothing when working on landscaping project and when it is super wet to.
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Pump sprayer way easier, roll works too
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Nice job. can you please tell me more about the equipment you used to level and bucket with??? Please Please please. thank you
That’s a Ventrac 4500
Please give us the GPS coordinates of this masterpiece to see it on Google Maps! 😊😊😊
Do you think elon will replace google with X maps where he can say X marks the spot or some dumb comical let the sink in slapstick type humor. Starlink sattalites closer much higher detail and faster refreshing damn near a live map bro you can zoom into the map like skyrim and see the traffic jam way ahead and reroute wouldnt that be dope.
Wait the lines aren't from wooden boxes containing each concrete section? Why have the lines at all?
Part of their permits. Turn lanes, sidewalks and so on.
Yup
Cost of doing business to live in a society. In the US most of our cities are not walkable. This is a horrible shame, IMO. Glad they are making businesses do this. Hopefully the city planners are also doing something to improve things beyond this.
Saved some money by not using reo bar or steel.... someone else's problem I guess
The city specifically said not to put welded wire or rebar in the sidewalk. The reason is they said it makes it harder for them when they need to cut up a section. I think this is pretty standard for municipalities.
City sidewalks and approaches in CA never have rebar in them, I’m sure it’s the same here…
@hausplans well I consider myself better educated now. Thanks for the reply.
Rebar mainly increases tensile strength of concrete. Since all of this is resting on solid ground and carrying only foot and light vehicle traffic, it only ever sees almost pure compressive loads. The rebar would add very little benefit.
Job security!
I think its good that your town wants the infrastructure developed as part of a realestate sale, in so cal alot of the inland empire has dirt and sand shoulders on roads that haven't been paved since the 70's. entire deals fall through when tenant improvments are required.
I think you should put up a security camera (or at least a hunting camera) and go once a month to the city council meeting and inform them “Nope, no pedestrians… AGAIN…”
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Damn, are you the same guy that came up with the idea that "X number of peds need to cross illegaly before we put a crossing"?
@@fryphillipj560 not comparable. And, since there are no pedestrians using the sidewalk, there are no pedestrians crossing the road .
Around here there'd be employees standing on the sidewalk during smoke breaks.
@@Wungus_Bill now, how much will his taxes go up (due to “improvements”)because the city made him spend money on a sidewalk that may not get used for years? And does the city have a snow-shoveling ordinance that, of the sidewalk is not cleaned within 24 hours of snowfall, makes the owner subject for fines even though there are no pedestrians?
You just saved the county like 6 thousand dollars
But i bet the taxes are the same
Are there any Benefits using concrete instead of bricks? Almost every sidewalk here in german we have sidewalks made out if bricks. Happy to receive an answer
Bricks tend to settle and heave with the frost. They are more maintenance than concreat.
Bricks or pavers do give a nice look, but it’s usually more expensive as well
lets only build for cars, and then complain when there is traffic. Sidewalks should be required for any development off a road.
You know at first I was thinking about it being a waste of tax dollars if nobody's going to use it but then your comment reminded of all the times I've had to walk or ride a bike down a street that didn't have a sidewalk
Coming from a city with few sidewalks, this is a great requirement, and you did an impeccable job with it. Nice work!
Now that you were forced to install sidewalk your taxes will be raised
You know where there isnt taxes where I live? Camping and unprepared food. Take that for what its worth gentlemen. Motorcycles get like prius mpg. Go where no sidwalk can be built. We have a national park you can camp in thats bigger than britain butni mean dont get killed by a bison there is no one out there who can save you
solid sidewalk, only thing id critique is hand floating a little over the wood work rather than right on the edge of the concrete because its easier to drop the edge
There’s a church local to me that recently got built and they did this with the sidewalk, however there are houses on one side with no sidewalk, and on the other side are just woods, but the woods are down a hill, and the sidewalk goes down the hill too, so it makes no sense lol, The sidewalk doesn’t lead anywhere and doesn’t even connect to the parking lot
good work guys keep it up
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If the city/county wants a sidewalk so bad, then they should pay for it and do the work.
Looking good, I definitely want to see more of the house build. At the very least some progress updates thrown in with other videos would be cool!
My grandmother had to go before the Parish Planning Commission to sell her empty lot near the end of our dead end gravel road (1980's Louisiana). There were no homes on the last 600 feet of the road (in the middle of a pasture). The commission told her that she would have to install a sidewalk (on a gravel road in a pasture) and a culdesac before they would allow the sale to go through. They eventually decided she didn't have to put in the sidewalk. She did have to pay for a culdesac, on a road owned by the Parish, to allow fire trucks to be able to turn around if necessary. The corruption has only gotten worse since.
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What are those notches you call “control joints”on the concrete slabs? Are they there to make the concrete crack along them when it expands instead of cracking in random places and becoming a hazard? In my city (Seattle, WA) we also have a square pattern on our sidewalks for some reason, and I wonder what that might be for.
You’re correct it creates a weak spot in the concrete, so that when it cracks hopefully it cracks in the joint
Suddenly a man in red.
Just Up here appears out of nowhere. With a stick in his hand and says leave me alone.😂😂😂
That was my electrician, I told him to dress stupid. I think he did a good job😂
If the city wants sidewalks, the city should build them
Hi! What is couring compound used for? Thanks! Great video!
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What’s the purpose of the groves in between squares of sidewalk? I always assumed that it was a byproduct of making sections of sidewalk at a time. Why not just have one consistent walkway?
Those lines create a weak spot in the slab so that when it cracks, hopefully it will crack in the line, and not just randomly throughout the slab
Looks dumb now, but the hope/plan of the city gov. is to have every new property developed with sidewalks
Ventrac makes an amazing machine. We have those at my work and they are super tough. It’s a great product…that comes at a cost.
They are amazing machines
This is a good requirment, wish more cities had it. Would be even better if it was made into a yearly competition, the one that made the best sidewalk gets a respectable discount on their utilities for a year, for example.
So, why do you seperate the concrete with that divet instead of just having it be one big piece? Does it help the concrete not crack when it expands and contracts?
That creates a weak spot in the concrete so that when it cracks, it’s more likely to crack there than randomly throughout the slab.
Make sure to explain all the way. For ones who don't know, curing compounds can help prevent shrinkage and cracking, and can improve the overall performance of the concrete over time. Additionally, curing compounds can help reduce the formation of dust and improve the appearance of the finished surface.
It’s really hard to share all the information I would like to share on a RUclips short because you’re limited to 60 seconds👍
@@hausplans that's so true. Have a nice day
It's nice seeing people who take pride in their work. Impressive
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As a runner, I can't tell you how appreciated the construction of a sidewalk is to me.
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This is exactly what’s driving up property prices. A service that used to be paid for by the local council with tax payer money. Now the new builders need to pay for all the infrastructure, which adds to the build cost, which is passed on to the consumer by increased rent or mortgage that money is regained by the builder. Buuut that cost compounded forever. Even if its 5%. New estates are 100% paid for by the builder. All rods, services etc. Meaning less houses for greater cost.
-councils get money for rates to do these things.
-councils get paid rates based on property prices (now increased by 5% in this example)
-house prices rise approximately 10%. Meaning that 5% increases by 10% also.
-rent prices increase by an additional 5%
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I would walk up and down that sidewalk for several hours because it is so nice.
Come on over 😂👍
Sidewalks benefit tremendously from the network effect. Of course alone they aren’t that great, but when connected together, they allow pedestrians to traverse with ease. Just make sure the neighbors put theirs in!
That’ll make sense, the problem is several of my neighbors built before the sidewalk rule was in place. Not sure they’ll ever put them in now. If they decided to put them in there’s lots of major obstacles in the way.
That ventrac with power rake looks awesome! Super convenient and quick! As a landscaper, having to do that by hand with a dirt rake sucks!
The Ventrac with the power rake does an amazing job!
Our township required the same thing when putting in our warehouse. But our property ran from an abandoned state street to a dead end with a highway being at the end of the dead end. So 100% private property. We argued it was unnecessary for the sidewalk to be put in. They agreed. And instead us getting the savings. We had to pay our township the cost of sidewalks and curbs.
Why not? we built lots of highways no "nowhere" which then became somewhere.
Dude that’s an amazing job! I wish everyone took that work as seriously as you do
I appreciate that!
I work in Civil Inspection. I gotta say, well done on the finish work. Most crews don't put remotely enough cure down.
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Dude we had a Ventrac at a golf course i used to work at, and I absolutely loved that thing. Hands down my favorite machine we had there, I've actually priced them online and I don't even know why, I don't really have a use for one right now and I definitely can't afford one anyway...
Very cool!
That’s called being ada compliant. As a wheelchair user, I appreciate this. Even if it’s not used
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Hell yeah I love my ventracc! I’ve got the 4500 with the 8 wheels it’s awesome since I do a bunch of industrial mowing
Why do you have to groove it? I’ve always wondered this.
The grooves create a weak spot in the concrete, so that hopefully when it cracks, it will crack in a groove
About 30 years ago my company needed to build a communications building near the edge of town.
The property already had a dirt driveway. The city insisted we extend the nearby street with sewer and water and fire hydrant service.
Cost of building , $70k
Cost of street improvements : $225k
Happened to drive by 6 months ago. The actual growth? Taller weeds at the end of the road!
Good. Transportation alternatives helps every single person without exception.
Did you put any curb cuts? Our city does this too for the most part but doesn’t require curb cuts so I, a wheelchair user, still have to go in the road most of the time
Yes, there’s a ADA ramp with a truncated dome at the start of the sidewalk
From what I know, concrete curing compound is a temporary coating, eventually breaking down and dissipating from exposure to UV light, traffic, etc.. The government likely did not specify its color, so you could have added some food coloring to it and changed it from bright white to purple and freaked them out. BTW, after living in areas with no street sidewalks, I strongly agree with all property owners including the walk in front of their property in their development costs. It greatly reduces the number of targets.
I'm a bike rider anytime I see some sidewalk by a busy road makes my day better
Hi, genuine question, Why do your floats look like mags?
I work for a municipality, we dont think about today, we have to think 20+ years out.
The good ones do, anyways.
'One of the requirements of the warehouse we just built'
That sounded so much like Joe Rogan.
What's that white paint for? I didn't put any on my shed foundation, did I need to?
It’s a Can compound, I’ve never used before. It’s just something the city requires.
Our city requires curing compound but most contractors spray it on with a weed sprayer and it ends up looking like crap. Glad you’re doing it the right way, looks so clean and uniform
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im glad i watched this, i never knew what the groves on the concrete were for it never even crossed my mind that it could be to help improve traction
As someone who eats concrete sidewalks, thank you. This looks filling. I shall enjoy it.
Ventrac.. nice multi machine.. good mower too..
Sure is
Your makeup skills are out of this world.
as someone who lives where the city does not force people to put in sidewalks, thanks you to your city.