A Guide To Mushroom Substrates | GroCycle
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Ever wondered what makes a good mushroom substrate? In this video we go in-depth on the topic, taking a look at:
- the key nutrients & qualities that mushroom substrate should have
- the difference between sterilising and pasteurising substrate
- a discussion of the top 12 most popular mushroom substrates
- how to decide on the substrate to use
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
0:53 What is mushroom substrate?
1:23 Lignin, cellulose & hemicellulose
1:40 Nitrogen
2:32 Small amount of minerals K, P, Mg, Ca, S
3:35 Ph Level 5 - 6.5
4:00 Good structure for air exchange
5:14 Moisture content 50 - 70%
6:15 Absence of competitor organisms
7:10 Sterilisation vs Pasteurisation
9:52 Popular Substrate Options
10:21 Straw
11:10 Other agricultural byproducts
12:32 Sawdust
14:00 Sawdust pellets or straw pellets
15:01 Manure
15:36 Coco coir & vermiculite
16:15 Coffee grounds
17:17 Cardboard
18:10 Supplementation
19:46 Hardwood logs
20:10 Woodchip beds
20:28 Deciding on your substrate
22:58 Low tech mushroom substrate
23:39 Supplemented sawdust
24:31 Masters Mix
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Higher nitrogen: needs more sterilization, higher yields, maybe more expensive
Lower nitrogen: maybe doesn't need sterilization, but low yields.
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I think it's important to consider that whatever chemicals / pesticides / heavy metals are in your substrate may end up in your mushrooms. The substrate you use may not be intended to be used for consumption. Especially waste produkts such as straw can be highly contaminated with pesticides.
Yes, always pasteurize your substrate! :)
pasteurizing will not get rid of pesticides and heavy metals
@@Orrphoiz This is very true. Even burning will not remove metals. So anything that may contain metals is worth avoiding but this is difficult due to geo/solar engineering going on around the world.
i cant find straw but i use soy for my oysters, you inspired me to grow. i dont have a big production yet but its so fun to spend lockdown doing this, since i lost my teaching job
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@@terencebelton344 Do you have to sterilize it?
@@vipr1142 yes it must be sterilised
I use a wall paper steamer in a vented box for 2 hours
@Terence. Does the entire store fit inside the steamer or do you use a part at a time?
@@sanjayrambarun3902 I do it both ways i.e.steam the entire substrate then load it into the plastic bag (This way encourages the possibility of contracting unwanted bacteria) Or Place the plastic bag with the substrate into the steamer and leave for a couple of hours minimum. Depends very much on the size of steamer
Hey Adam, thanks for this, I am a fan of your videos! What do you use to shred the straw at GroCycle?
Ive been a fan of the channel for a while now and Im always impressed with the info provided guys! Top work. I was wondering, does anyone in the wider community have experience with coffee husts from roasting as a substrate ingredient? I was wondering if I could switch the straw I was going to use with coffee grounds for coffee grounds and coffee hust. Any help much apreciated!
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Wow great video thanks. One thing you didn't mention was if pasteurization was recommended for coco coir + vermiculite substrate?
Good keep it up
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Thanks! Perhaps a video on Casing - when, what, why.
Thank you.
The way you explain the details in all the topics are amazing and enthusiastic! Congratulations! Could you please explain how to measure the pH of the substrates?
ph measurement tool, costs 10 dollars on amazon.. other option would be to follow a pre tested recipe of lime:water ratio from forums
Thank you, just the kind of info I was looking for. Sub'ed. Start my first grow in few days.
This is very valuable thank you. Have you heard of anyone using hemp flower as a substrate?
Buen día, recién estoy iniciando en emundo maravilloso de los hongos, y sus videos me están ayudando mucho para seguir investigando el sustrato ideal según mi zona y quisiera probar con los posos de café, pero quisiera saber cómo pasteurizarlo, gracias y saludos desde Perú
I'm just getting into growing and I've found this mulch that's made of 'coconut and other woods' which has a nice texture to it. I'm thinking that I will clean and shred some driftwood and mix it with that for growing some mini shiitake, with some extra wood surface for them to do their thing. :3
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Can you please upload a video about post harvest and preservation techniques..
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Great suggestion, I've added it to the list of future videos to make :-)
Honestly after watching the whole video I came here for answers and now I just have more questions. I guess I'll just take your information and apply it through trial and error for my own situation and work from there
I would like to hear your take on anaerobic sterilization.
Thank you for sharing these very informative videos on growing mushrooms. I am particularly interested in growing oyster mushrooms. There is abundance of rice straw, rice hull and sawdust with wood chips in my area. What combination of these 3 materials would be best and what proportions should be used for the substrate?
the answer to your question is likely one you should explore by simply trying it yourself
Would a mix of arborist wood chips and spent brewing grain work for the bagged method? I have free access to both materials. Thank you for these VERY helpful videos.
Hi, Adam (and Eric)! Thanks a lot for all your work! I wonder if you have information about any research on fungi accumulate herbicides into the fruiting bodies from the straw bales they grow on. Is it safe to eat those?
I read that growing oyster mushroom is a way to cleanse the environment of toxins (including petroleum derivatives and inorganic debris). The latter are absorbed by fungi and broken down into harmless substances. But when we eat mushrooms, are they still in them? I do not know
thanks for info
if you were able to get 121 degrees without the pressure in that case can you sterilize your substrate?
Thank you for all the great information! Looking to create my mushrooms substrate with sawdust from a cabinet maker, coffee grounds and also experimenting with brewers spent grain (I work at a brewery) Any luck with spent grain or hear of anyone having feedback on it?
I'm looking to grow from woodshop sawdust also. Do you know a good pelletizer machine?
Can you reuse coffee grounds even if it hasn’t been brewed recently, if you pasteurise it?
Many love copy and paste but subatrate is very personal. Many choices to be made
My first attempt at mushroom growing, I have decided on a substriaght on 3 year old horse manure Barly straw and CoCo-Coir. Will be using 30% each and 60 grms spawn. I have steamed all. i shall mix all throughly. place in dark for approx 2 weeks then cut small holes and wait for the development in an indirect light approx 20-25 C. What are my chances of success, any sugestions most welcome
I use rice straw substrate for oyster mushroom .I want to know which supplement will be best for more yield.
hello, i am trying Lucerne straw, first week now looking good. do you tink it will work?
Can you advise on best substrate composition for Cordyceps Millitaris
Can you please make a video on growing button mushrooms?
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I have a good source of chopped peanuts. In 2-3mm chunks. Is this suitable, or could it be made suitable with some auditives, for grain spawn or a substrate? Keen to use it for a mushroom growing purpose
Please suggest additives to chopped straw for the production of oyster mushrooms.
Good day, I am just starting out in the wonderful world of mushrooms, and your videos are helping me a lot to continue researching the ideal substrate for my area and I would like to try coffee grounds, but I would like to know how to pasteurize it, thanks and greetings from Peru
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Some interesting ideas there. I've been at this mushroom lark for over a year now and still haven't had a mushroom (unless you include the unexpected ones in my agar cups) but I'm getting closer. Currently trying a mix of coconut, vermiculite, chicken poo pellets with a dash of honey and agar. I'm quietly confident this time... But I've said that before 😀
I reckon just buy masters mix
@@dengshomeinvasions1273 No need. It worked that time and the times after using coconut and coffee grounds. I think most of my problem may have been using coco blocks. Now I've switched to loose I'm getting some actual 'shrooms. Nice bigguns too 😀
Still much work to be done on my technique but onward and upward etc.
Just add nut and grain husks like groundnut ricebran etc these have all the required nutrients adding these with sawdust will produce a good yeild....
Thank you. This is exactly what I want: simple but efficient. 👍🏻
Thank you! This is an excellent introduction to substrates.
What are your thoughts on growing on say lumber instead of logs?
Could you use Alfalfa hay for the substrate?
What a nice channel. Please, is there some gourmet or medicinal plant which grows on coniferous wood sawdust or shavings? Pine and such and a mixture of diferent. Thats what I do have with no issue. Can find one, thank you.
Thank you for this - your insight is very helpful and resourceful! I’m curious about the secondary metabolite production in medicinal mushrooms grown on the low tech method (zero or little nutrition content) versus sterilisation methods that add mineral supplementation - does it really matter? I would think that stressors in the environment may trigger the mushroom to create different compounds depending on its environment rather than the substrate it’s grown on?
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Instead of straw, I'm gonna try dehydrating some used tea leaves and mix that in with coffee. I also have some jars I'm trying organic soil mixed with coffee and tea that I might put around the garden. I'll let you know my results. Thanks for all of the info! I also plan on stealing your mushroom powder seasoning idea, but I'm gonna use red belted conk I harvested in the Sequoias here in CA, and some pink peppercorns I harvested in Southern California. I have so much of the polypore dried and powdered I need to try some things out!
I made another jar with coffee grounds and the same oyster mycelium , but I used some dead thyme and rosemary that was in the garden as straw replacement for this one.
So, did it work?
Thanks so much for all the info! Knowing to keep my supplementation down to about 5-10% without sterilization is especially helpful for me personally.
Could you please tell me more about using banana or plantain leaves as substrate. Thank you.
What are good options for king oyster mushrooms?
Have you experimented with hemp as a substrate? Seems to be an excess of it in North America now and I'm wondering if it has all of the necessary components - i.e. lignin, cell, and hemicell...?
Thanks
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Question...I'm in the middle of my first attempt at growing in a Monotube...It's been about 2 weeks since I inoculated my substrate...I just noticed that overnight there are puddles of water...forming along the walls of my tub....So far I see no pinning but the extra water puddling has me worried...Is this puddling common...am I in trouble and don't know it?
Hi, I've been hearing that bone ash is a good supplement for Ca/P for substrate. Do you have any experience/info with bone ash addition? Loved the video, extremely informative--especially regarding the ideal substrate particle size, that had some interesting information that I hadn't considered.
Anyone use RYE Flour instead of Brown Rice Flour? (PF TEK} I heard that the Rye flour needs less water in the mix. (I bought Rye by mistake instead of BRF today) A few years ago I tied both separately to compare but I forget . At age 69 I forget short term memory anyways. Can't wait for Golden Teachers!
Could I use sphagnum peat moss in my substrate?
I heard about pastorization I didn't hear about sterilization. What is the ratio of contamination for just the pastorization process?
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can you use ground industrial hemp stalks as a mushroom growing substrate? It's anti-microbial and has lignin and cellulose.
I will have a substantial amount of sugarcane bagasse what amendments and sterilization would you recommend rice bran?
Would pine straw work mixed with hardwood chips/sawdust?
Hello, I keep on watching your video and sort of I am wondering in here if the RICE HULL can be use as a sole form of substrate. This is also an agricultural waste that seems to be more nutritional than RICE STRAW. If I am not mistaken I can say it can be of good use ( rice hull ) alone for a very good substrate. Please let me know if this idea is useful. Thank you.
what do you think of hamster bedding- mine is hemp and cellulose with hammy poos?
Hi , as living in lakeside area, can only dried reeds and/or cattail be used for raising oysters ,or should I coplement the substrate with beech tree sawdust ( the only hard wood product that I found in stores in my area)? Thank you so much! .
We've not tried dried reeds ourselves, but have found that oysters are very adaptable and a very strong grower on a huge range of substrates - our advice is to experiment by growing on two bales, one from reeds only, and one supplemented with sawdust. Keep everything else the same, so substrate weight, spawn rate, incubating and fruiting conditions the same - the yield should then give you the answer!! Good luck and let us know how you get on!
Brilliant video, thank you. What about hay pellet instead of straw? disadvantages?
Different nutrient levels, and MUCH FINER can pack too tight, less air, too wet
For wood loving mushrooms can you use rice hulls instead of soy hulls? Or maybe chicken poop?
My problem with the various substrates you mention is you are concerned with the sterilization of it, but what of having mushrooms growing in straw, soybean hulls, etc which have come from fields having been sprayed with Roundup? I live in corn and bean country in the US and everything is totally sprayed with herbicides and then pesticides and then they are spraying beans again sometimes to kill them so they can harvest in their timing. That yuck would still be in those hulls. Do you have access to organic substrates in AU and NZ? I doubt I could get it here in the USA. I was planning on starting with coffee grounds to see how that would work, but I'm not sure what else to mix with it.
Organic Soy Hull pellets are available as well in the U.S.