2:50 It is BECAUSE it is Platinum rated, THAT the power supply can be made that small. These only have to deal with 26W-52W-143W of heat at 20%-50%-100% load in the worst case, allowing for small heatsinks. Very efficient DC-DC circuitry and controllers for non-12V rails allow for neat and tidy packaging.
It's also because of the L shape it appears small. It really isn't if you add in the invisible space above the L shelf. That space that would otherwise be taken up by the headers on the rear is now that vacant space. The actual ps space taken is the same as a larger one.
There's a Titanium rated 1650W PSU from Thermaltake that's slightly smaller and also offers a 10 year warranty. Comes without an awkwardly placed USB hub and twice the price but whatever. There's a bunch of smaller and more efficient PSUs out there at a comparable or better price. Lian Li probably just high from huffing fan fumes.
Well yes, but actually no, 5/6 years ago I bought a dark power pro 11 1000w, it was big while being platinum rated. And now they are selling Straight power 11 1000w also plat rated, with a regular PSU size doing the same thing. Just technologic has advanced.
@@hankwest5662 Now, 2 months after my initial comment, prices where different from now. By now, according to PCPP and therefore 'Merica only, both the 1300W Platinum ADATA XPG Cybercore 1 $169,99 & 2 $209,99 are still less expensive then the Lian Li L $229,99. Admittedly that's a bunch less then 2 months ago. In Germany as another example, according to Geizhals, there are still 4 both cheaper and smaller Platinum, 1300W+ PSUs available with the cheapest one being about 100€ less expensive. One of these is actually a 1500W PSU. Both time and location play a crucial role, I used Jays in context of the video and mine, yours could be different but you gave no example so idk. The stuff I'm talking about is still valid and easily to check. Maybe do so yourself before going nekro on a months old comment or at least try to give context.
@@sharedsailing4787 you are comparing a Z to a B series though... But yeah prices don't reflect the change. And even the number of ports on the back have gone down across the board. They just decided 6 to 8 was all we'll ever get.
Motherboards have gone seriously downhill for connectivity for the past few years. Those of us who need a non-gaming one almost have to get a Threadripper to get full USB, PCIe slots, and UART. I keep a Chinese X99 system just for these...
This needs to be common practice. Smart thinking with Lian Li here, the person who came up with this idea deserves a heavy raise. It's genius because why the hell has nobody else thought to do this for us pc enthusiasts? Now they need to incorporate this into common build sizes and watch these things fly off the shelves! Thank you JTC for taking the time to show us this. Btw, PSUs aren't boring, they're fascinating bits of tech and annoyances at times for some of us. 😂😊❤
As time passes, it's good to see manufacturers adapting their products to what the general public asks for. This power supply is something I could have used 10 years ago when I was creating large servers and workstations, better late than never I say.
@@vr0k3n You’ll be surprised how many “simple” pc builders were asked to build servers AND workstations but you are right that the majority don’t do that.
Love it! You hit the nail on the head, PSUs don't need the footprint the standard calls for. This gives the manufacturers license to add in other features. Lian Li is always thinking of ways to make their products stand out.
That's real nice. Like the fan grill, mod plug and wire selection, the pre attached combs, the USB hub, the pcie custom plate, the size, power and efficiency... just well done. Bravo. In the next iteration add a fan and rgb hub... only other things anyone could ask for.
On top of being odd and different, that form factor actually has a huge advantage in manufacturing because they can just extend the PCB under that section and surface mount the connectors. 1) I'm surprised it took so long to do that and 2) I expect lots of copy cats in the next few years.
@@yuan.pingchen3056 I think the usb hub will remain a Lian-Li exclusive but I don't see the shape will remain exclusive for very long. Most people will not know that Lian-Li did it first, sadly most will think it is cool and unique when EVGA, Thermaltake, or Cooler Master does it.
Honestly, this is one of the most exciting products you have covered lately.. if I didn't already have an AX1600i, I'd be all over this. I love the repositioning of the plugs, as trying to plug in new power to a device in my present case is such a pain. The USB hub is great as well.. bring on all the hubs!! Moo
@JayzTwoCents like you mentioned : - a 4-pin PWM fan hub - an RGB lighting hub (ARGB + DRGB) and maybe this : - put a block of female USB Type A connectors on 1 side of the back of the PSU so that these are accessible from outside the PC case (in case your motherboard rear IO panel doesn't have a lot of them) - cable management option to hide the cables coming off the PSU : add 1 extra (removable) "wall panel" that you can clip or slide on the cable connector panel and the front of the PSU, and have the option to clip/slide it either on the left or the right side depending how you install the PSU in the PC case upside down or normal (like with a PC case with a glass window you would be able to completely hide the cables coming off the PSU)
Yes. This is a consumer focused PSU that manufactures need to see this as a shot across the bow. I need more USB accessibility because, as a student using a mid/high tier workstation for GIS and 3d processing, there is allot of USB divides I use just to do my classes. I have a USB flash drive to hold my documents, a backup of all my documents, a Wi-Fi device, mouse, keyboard, the occasional CD/DVD for monthly cold backups, and a backup separate to cold storage for offsite backups of classes that goes to my parents. Then there is my messing around with AI Stable Diffusion that also has it's own backup and USB backups. I need more USB 2.0 headers do coursework and hobbies. Lian-Li has had at least one sale to at least bridge the gap that I have this moment as a student. If they continue with it I will give them first dibs as a customer who has a niche trade and hobby. Lian-Li, I am only one customer of probably several hundred thousands, but this is a product that I have needed. Thank you for solving my connectivity problems, and I hope that this is something that sells well enough that there are more.
Oh, it actually was released as specific to an 011D and dual chamber cases, there was a lot of information in February but it doesn't look like it's available for release through retailers yet. I hope everyone sees that the Edge models also have forward facing connections before they order them.
Never thought I'd be able to say "I want that PSU!" until now. That will absolutely be my next one. This PSU design coupled with BTF components would make a ridiculously clean build. I would love to see you do a BTF-based, custom loop build using this PSU to see how clean you can get it.
Giving it an active fan hub is really smart tho .... you can just take signal with virtually no load from mobo and the PSU will deliver all the power you need without worying about overloadig mobo header. I mean theese days you can have case with 10 or even more fans and if you go custom water loop you can have sigle preset for entire loop.
It's nice to see a PSU designed for dual chamber cases in mind, since there are so many of them out there these days. And the USB hub is a refreshing addition to see as well. There seems to never be enough USB ports on the main board. But AIO's and some RGB and fan hubs need them. Lian-Li has set the bar on this on IMO.
I've been wondering for a long time why there aren't more different options for power supply designs. I love the white aesthetic and the wires come with those comb thingies preinstalled for keeping your wires looking nice! I think I really like this PSU, but I'll bet it's out of my budget range. I've actually got an extra USB header device (giving me 6 more usb headers) because my rig didn't have enough- that USB header idea is really great! I'd LOVE to have RGB/Fan headers on a PSU- that's a really great idea, and it's got me thinking about more stuff now as well.
Thanks, quick question. Building a new PC, I'm using Intel BTF motherboard. I don't game, what's the best Intel CPU for video creation with "ok thermals" and good balance, if you were getting one? Great Channel.👍
No doubt that's a big part of it, but I would imagine that GaN components and dc-dc step down converters are two of the biggest reasons for the diminutive size In any case it's incredibly impressive how small modern PSUs are for the power they put out
Yeahhhh,would be cool but.... We had cards burning because people couldn't seat the plugs. Can you imagine how they will mess this up😂 we aren't ready as species for this.
That would probably be a nightmare for the engineers designing it. An extra point of failure and connection point (added resistance) right next to the main board, I'm thinking that would be dicey and boost the price a lot.
The connector block is a part of the main board. I remember them saying that they were trying to simplify the production by doing away with the normal daugterboard with the connections as on normal psu´s.
I think it would be easier to just make an inverted version. They definately need to do that though for the cases that are meant to have the PSU fan oriented to the bottom.
@@nekoghostgunner1129 They could probably make the connectors on the other side of the lip/board. They just can´t move the lip because of the board. Otherwise just buy a normal PSU.
@@AnotherLazybum No you don't, cause Corsair doesn't have 1200W in such an compact PSU. Their SF series are their smallest ones and they have just released their biggest at 1000W. Hence I think you're simply mistaken or trolling. EDIT: Clearly misread and misunderstood here, my bad!
@@DawelioRe-read again, he clearly stated that he had a Corsair psu that is almost 2 times bigger than this Lian Li ones. Probably referring to an AX1200I, that thing was long.
@@Dawelio typical looking so quickly to put another person down you misread his comment when he was agreeing with you, you are whats wrong with people nowadays the person was being non confrontational whatsoever even joking around a bit and someone somewhere has to get offended because they want to feel they're intellectually superior to someone else were literally all here to learn about pc parts just sit and watch
Regarding 06:44, there are some cards already and have been for a while, that use two of the 12VHpwr connectors, like f.e. the Galax HoF cards that are extreme OC focused. They first introduced that dual 12V connector with their 3090 Ti HoF OC Lab Edition, a LN2 focused card that had special unlocked OC Bioses available for it.
I would love to see the addition on the fan and RGB hubs as you suggested. Also since your adding a USB connection to the PSU anyway you could actually put a PWM and RGB controller in the PSU. You could also put the hardware in to allow software monitoring of the PSU. If your building a dual chamber system based on the O11 concept and a LOT of people are, this PSU makes perfect sense.
10:11 That particular case's (Lancool 216) bottom mesh panel is removable. There's a single screw at the back and you slide the panel towards the rear to remove it.
Lian Li could offer the option to order small, medium, or large cables that would ship with that PSU. Customers could purchase from any online or mom-and-pop retailer and have the PSU shipped directly to the consumer, leaving the return process with those retailers. They could have a guide on ordering the cables needed for their case and/or the direction they would run them. Your idea to have a PMW and/or RBGW controller would be super beneficial while allowing the option to use whichever software to run those controllers.
This makes ALOT of sense... My thought is the cables coming off the PSU should be 90degrees, and yes... they should be longer. Will be purchasing one of these as soon as they hit the market. Pretty cool!
The reason they include 2 types of the 12vhpwr cable is I believe to accommodate for the type of cards that require 3 pcie power cables. Its meant to be 1 or the other, not both. My msi 1000w psu also included the same 2 cables and menthions that.
I love the fact they are thinking outside of the box, that alone is huge! I agree fan and RGB hubs would make a great addition as well. Maybe they could have long, medium and short cable versions, or a standard cable option with the ability to order longer or shorter cables as needed a la carte maybe, or long/short extra kits. Either way, nice to see innovation!
A build in fan hub that can detect the amount of power each device is drawing and automatically adjust the fan speed. The powersupply is also connected with a usb hub, and the fan speed can be adjusted through that connection as well.
I'd love the idea of consolidating all the hubs into the PSU. Consolidating some of the case IO cables there and developing one standard cable could all be a neat way of making motherboards I bit less of a mess.
This is likely to be a Helly Tech core for those wondering. They are a lesser known OEM that used to be trash but in recent years have started producing decent quality stuff (not quite teir 1) for decent prices. If you want to look at reviews, look for 1st Player (their retail brand) - several of their recent platinum models have had solid if unexciting reviews - they tend to use slightly cheaper fets and fans to keep price down, but still look like good reliable units with all the stuff you would expect in a decent brand. (LLC, nippon chemi-con caps etc)
Brilliant. Been a Lian Li fan and user of their cases exclusively going back to the satin finished, aluminum ones with CD and floppy accommodating removeable front covers. Built probably 40 PC for work, friends, family and myself exclusively with Lian Li cases and Asus motherboards. Abandoned Asus 3 PC's ago for very good reasons but still use Lian Li cases, fans, AIO's and will soon build another one with this power supply. Well done.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I'm personalizing it. I'm one of those people who buys expensive mobos (ASUS Maximus Z790 Hero) and I still like having more USB ports. But perhaps you are correct and the average premium mobo customer mayn't purchase it.
I think it's certainly nice to have in case it's needed, but I'd care much more for what Jay suggested, so fan connectors or (even better) ARGB connectors.
Why is a PSU handling input/output anyway? Even if motherboards are lacking in I/O I don't think it is the role of a PSU to solve that issue. The only justification I can see is if the power demands of modern USB devices are so high that you don't want to run it all through the motherboard. Otherwise it seems to me like a memory stick with an RGB header on it; even if the need is legitimate the component serving that need is out of its lane.
@@Phage0070 I couldn't agree more. This PSU is for suckers. Its like DLSS or Frame generation for I/O. An Ext powered usb hub is already better cable management with those pcie connectors intersecting each other.
I just installed this in my Corsair Air 540 and it cleaned up so much better than my old EVGA Super Nova G2 1000W. Also, the single 600W to my 4090 is nice.
This is actually really clever. I'd have to imagine it's easier for trace routing too since you don't have to have separate PCBs for the power supply itself and the connectors
its great, helps so much not having to make the big U at the end esp for the main mb cable. modular add ons would be a dream, so users can have the choice to add whatever additional headers they need
Through all this, I'm genuinely amazed that Jay didn't have a conniption about installing a white PSU and white cables, into a black case. Disregard the fact there was a white 4060 installed already, I really thought his OCD was gonna make him explode.
I can get onboard with PSU designed like this and including hubs in them as long as LianLi doesn't throw a hissy fit and start suing everyone again that makes ones similiar to this like they did with their fans.
It'd almost be neat if a company got a bunch of cases and made a few different lengths of cable for the different cases. I don't mean like millimeter level customization on a per-case basis, but you can group them together pretty easily. I'm guessing most m-atx cases would need similar lengths, most mid-towers would be similar, etc.
I like the design. I like the USB hub, now it needs RGB and fan-header hubs as well. But what I'd really like to see is case, motherboard, video card and power supply manufacturers get together come out with a standard eliminated the need for cables all together.
Really glad to see this. I hope companies keep rethinking the design and features it could be really good for the consumer. If say Corsair were to include the LinkIQ hub in the power supply with the cables to connect USB2 and the link to the fans that would be a game changer.
It's an interesting power supply for multi chamber cases. The first thing I would do with it is, unpin one of the USB cable ends and run two pieces of white shrink wrap down it that are longer than the ones that came with it. 7:45
I'm glad companies are starting to pack in the 12v. I hate having the three cables going to my 4090, it looks so bad and introduces another point of failure. As for things to add in: I'd almost like to see a modular power supply. A hub that runs a very short set of cables from the power supply up to a hub - that hub having cable plugs going around it in almost a 360 so the cables can go anywhere it needs by just moving the hub. *hub and spoke
You know, saying most people install it facing down, alot of everyone still likes to have it help pull air through the case, as well in the grand scheme of things, it's still a very very new thing to have the PSU pulling air from outside the case instead of the inside. Also remember the old Gateway ( and other OEMs) machines that used the PSU fan ( pulling air in through the PSU in some cases) to also cool the CPU
I feel like providing cables on the smaller side was the correct move. Cable extensions available everywhere and pretty cheap. But cable replacements that are shorter are nearly impossible to find safely. So even though it’s a bummer for big cases, I think it was the right move
If we are going to go into so much detail regarding the appearance of the innards of our pc I think that I should point out that however you orient this PSU (up or down), the model name and letters on the window side will be upside down and ironically the letters facing the backside of the case will be correctly oriented. I hope whoever buys this one doesn't have a perforated or mesh design PSU compartment.
USB hub is indeed excellent. Another good thing could be a PSU health indicator (for those without tools to check it), similar to how motherboards have codes to indicate things going wrong with various parts of them. Of course, as a user of the Cosmos II 25th Anniversary Edition Ultra Tower Chassis, I definitely agree it should have longer cable length availability (whether included in the default purchase, as a different SKU, or available separately). I still use optical drives, unlike most people, too.
I just started building in a white Lian Li 216. That PSU would be such overkill for me but oh is that sweet, and with the USB hub. You are right Jay, if they included a fan and/or ARGB hub too the PSU would become the new Star of the Show.
This PSU mounted vertically and a motherboard with the connectors on the back, you would be able to have the shortest wires ever and not have to worry about cable management. The one cable I think they should make/add is a SATA for SSD's that are vertically mounted on the back that are farther apart than in a drive cage. Having 1 cable with the 2 SATA plugs spread far enough apart to reach both drives and at an orientation that they would sit flat against the back.
What would be really nice is if all PSU companies had the same exact plug on the PSU side so that all wires were interchangeable. Then if you need a longer cable you could just go to the store and buy the size you want in the style you want... it would also make cable mods a lot clearner as you don't have 2 sets of cables in the bottom of the case, only 1 set. This would also allow for you to buy really short cables for the side by side cases so that you don't have much, if any, excess cable so things can be really clean.
Hi Jay, i like the idea. And i support your idea of integrating fan and rgp hubs too. consider that together with 48V mainboards and connectors on the back side of the motherboard and we will get much cleaner builds 🙂
It's popular in a lot of MATX and ITX cases to mount the power supply against the front wall of the case with the fan facing outward. Because the fan and cable ports face the same way on this PSU, all of your cables would run toward the front and have to turn around. Probably not a big deal though, unless the cables can't tolerate the bend radius. Just thinking through my keyboard.
Since it was about a power supply I decided to run the video at 2x speed. Not only could I understand and follow every word, it softens the blow of the content. But what I found to be the most humorous is that I couldn’t stop thinking that this was regular speed and (no offense or insinuation here) they Jay had done a few hog leg size line of powder😂 . If u want a laugh just hold down on you mobile screen for 30 specs of the video and watch him go❤
I think it is an awesome idea for dual chamber cases. In fact, I just bought the black one. Should be perfect for my LL 011 XL. Corsair Shift is also a good idea, but I use all my cases hard drive cages, so the Lian Li's orientation is better.
That usb hub is a great idea. I work on custom systems for things like lighting control, entertainment control systems and such. And the facepanel controllers on these systems are all USB2.0. In some cases you need 3 or 4 motherboard hubs, which means buying a separate hub, or being very picky with your mobo. Having an integrated hub is a great idea.... but... these are all commercial systems that only draw like... 300-400watts under full load, some of them draw like 45 watts total.
I like it. I'm getting a 011 XL anyway, so I think I'll give this a look when I get to Micro Center. I'm thinking I will slip a piece of white rubber pad I have laying around here, about 1/16th thick between the cables and the USB ports for shielding. Maybe not needed, but that just my ocd. Thanks Jay 🤗
A lot of this I like. Suggestion for PSU manufacturers: sell 2 or 3 different sizes so we can buy it with the Sml, Med, or Large length cable sets. Or comes in 2 boxes, buy the PSU & cable set separately, buy more PCIe/CPU/SATA/Molex separately to suit needs. A USB header to USB hub w RGB/fan control could be it's own little box not just integrated with PSU. Who wants to see a bar graph/ RGB by the PSU indicating the recent peak power & longer average like sound level on an audio mixers?
Man I wish this was available a year or so ago when I built my 011D EVO build. Would have been so nice for cable management and saved money not "needing" custom cables.
I wouldn't need the back plate because my motherboard has a lot of USB headers but my Bluetooth Wi-Fi card has a USB port right on it. But it's nice seeing that all of that was thought about.
I just looked at the pricing for these PSUs and they are HALF what I expected them to be. If they can keep them in stock I think this is a MASSIVE win! I expect to be replacing my evga 650 soon and this is now at the top of my list.
they need to make one designed to go "upside down" , like have the fan on the bottom next to the extension, then you can do one pulling from under the case.
I appreciate the layout greatly. It would be beneficial to have the output section designed to be removable, so flipping the PSU over would still preserve its impressive appearance.
The power supply is designed for their fan controllers, you want two different fan types and strimmer cables you’ll need a usb 2.0 splitter for sure, with this eliminates all those problems that people have had for years.
This is definitely very cool. And yeah, it's about time that we started seeing USB integration directly on the PSU, a fan hub would be very cool too. Great way to rely less on stingey motherboards or proprietary hub solutions.
I use a splitter for my sata drives because I have 5 sata drives and only 2 sata power, so seeing so much thought on this PSU is so nice to see. I love it!
This is the reason why I´ll never dodge Lian Li even tho it´s more expensive. You know these guys care about their customers because they freaking listen and always go for the innovation. I´ll never regret paying premium prices for Lian Li because they do a great job. They can read my mind. My mobo has only 1 USB connector and I was about to spend 30 bucks on 2 adapter cables but from a chinese brand I don´t even know... I just hope they have a 850W or maybe 1000W version of this.
2:50 It is BECAUSE it is Platinum rated, THAT the power supply can be made that small. These only have to deal with 26W-52W-143W of heat at 20%-50%-100% load in the worst case, allowing for small heatsinks. Very efficient DC-DC circuitry and controllers for non-12V rails allow for neat and tidy packaging.
It's also because of the L shape it appears small. It really isn't if you add in the invisible space above the L shelf. That space that would otherwise be taken up by the headers on the rear is now that vacant space. The actual ps space taken is the same as a larger one.
There's a Titanium rated 1650W PSU from Thermaltake that's slightly smaller and also offers a 10 year warranty. Comes without an awkwardly placed USB hub and twice the price but whatever. There's a bunch of smaller and more efficient PSUs out there at a comparable or better price. Lian Li probably just high from huffing fan fumes.
Well yes, but actually no, 5/6 years ago I bought a dark power pro 11 1000w, it was big while being platinum rated. And now they are selling Straight power 11 1000w also plat rated, with a regular PSU size doing the same thing. Just technologic has advanced.
@@GottKrampfThis is one of the cheapest plat rated 1200w+ PSUs, and comes with a 10 year warranty.
What are you talking about?
@@hankwest5662 Now, 2 months after my initial comment, prices where different from now. By now, according to PCPP and therefore 'Merica only, both the 1300W Platinum ADATA XPG Cybercore 1 $169,99 & 2 $209,99 are still less expensive then the Lian Li L $229,99. Admittedly that's a bunch less then 2 months ago. In Germany as another example, according to Geizhals, there are still 4 both cheaper and smaller Platinum, 1300W+ PSUs available with the cheapest one being about 100€ less expensive. One of these is actually a 1500W PSU.
Both time and location play a crucial role, I used Jays in context of the video and mine, yours could be different but you gave no example so idk. The stuff I'm talking about is still valid and easily to check. Maybe do so yourself before going nekro on a months old comment or at least try to give context.
Integrating USB hub makes so much sense... How has nobody thought about it?
Everybody thought about it, but nobody actually dare to implement it.
Why did mobo manufacturers drop the USB ports to begin with? My old Z370 had better internal I/O than my current B650
Lian-Li's solution is pretty slick though
@@sharedsailing4787 you are comparing a Z to a B series though... But yeah prices don't reflect the change. And even the number of ports on the back have gone down across the board. They just decided 6 to 8 was all we'll ever get.
Motherboards have gone seriously downhill for connectivity for the past few years. Those of us who need a non-gaming one almost have to get a Threadripper to get full USB, PCIe slots, and UART. I keep a Chinese X99 system just for these...
This needs to be common practice. Smart thinking with Lian Li here, the person who came up with this idea deserves a heavy raise. It's genius because why the hell has nobody else thought to do this for us pc enthusiasts? Now they need to incorporate this into common build sizes and watch these things fly off the shelves! Thank you JTC for taking the time to show us this. Btw, PSUs aren't boring, they're fascinating bits of tech and annoyances at times for some of us. 😂😊❤
As time passes, it's good to see manufacturers adapting their products to what the general public asks for. This power supply is something I could have used 10 years ago when I was creating large servers and workstations, better late than never I say.
The general public doesnt create large servers and workstations tho 😅
@@vr0k3n You’ll be surprised how many “simple” pc builders were asked to build servers AND workstations but you are right that the majority don’t do that.
Nobody was asking for this.
Love it! You hit the nail on the head, PSUs don't need the footprint the standard calls for. This gives the manufacturers license to add in other features. Lian Li is always thinking of ways to make their products stand out.
i think the coolest part of this is how managable those cables are, the ones in my system take up so much space and are so inflexible
That's real nice.
Like the fan grill, mod plug and wire selection, the pre attached combs, the USB hub, the pcie custom plate, the size, power and efficiency... just well done. Bravo.
In the next iteration add a fan and rgb hub... only other things anyone could ask for.
On top of being odd and different, that form factor actually has a huge advantage in manufacturing because they can just extend the PCB under that section and surface mount the connectors. 1) I'm surprised it took so long to do that and 2) I expect lots of copy cats in the next few years.
L shape should be Lian-Li exclusive, the competitors follow their 'L' shape design almost advertise for Lian-Li.
@@yuan.pingchen3056 The last thing we need in this space is more proprietary designs. Let people copy cat good ideas.
@@yuan.pingchen3056 I think the usb hub will remain a Lian-Li exclusive but I don't see the shape will remain exclusive for very long. Most people will not know that Lian-Li did it first, sadly most will think it is cool and unique when EVGA, Thermaltake, or Cooler Master does it.
Dont worry about "copy cats", Lian Li will simply sue them, hahahahahaha
It's an amazing deal if they can manage to sell it at the advertised MSRP ($240), set of custom cables alone is ~$100.
Honestly, this is one of the most exciting products you have covered lately.. if I didn't already have an AX1600i, I'd be all over this. I love the repositioning of the plugs, as trying to plug in new power to a device in my present case is such a pain. The USB hub is great as well.. bring on all the hubs!!
Moo
@JayzTwoCents like you mentioned :
- a 4-pin PWM fan hub
- an RGB lighting hub (ARGB + DRGB)
and maybe this :
- put a block of female USB Type A connectors on 1 side of the back of the PSU so that these are accessible from outside the PC case (in case your motherboard rear IO panel doesn't have a lot of them)
- cable management option to hide the cables coming off the PSU : add 1 extra (removable) "wall panel" that you can clip or slide on the cable connector panel and the front of the PSU, and have the option to clip/slide it either on the left or the right side depending how you install the PSU in the PC case upside down or normal (like with a PC case with a glass window you would be able to completely hide the cables coming off the PSU)
Yes. This is a consumer focused PSU that manufactures need to see this as a shot across the bow. I need more USB accessibility because, as a student using a mid/high tier workstation for GIS and 3d processing, there is allot of USB divides I use just to do my classes. I have a USB flash drive to hold my documents, a backup of all my documents, a Wi-Fi device, mouse, keyboard, the occasional CD/DVD for monthly cold backups, and a backup separate to cold storage for offsite backups of classes that goes to my parents.
Then there is my messing around with AI Stable Diffusion that also has it's own backup and USB backups.
I need more USB 2.0 headers do coursework and hobbies. Lian-Li has had at least one sale to at least bridge the gap that I have this moment as a student. If they continue with it I will give them first dibs as a customer who has a niche trade and hobby.
Lian-Li, I am only one customer of probably several hundred thousands, but this is a product that I have needed. Thank you for solving my connectivity problems, and I hope that this is something that sells well enough that there are more.
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Obligatory "That's what she said"
😏 lol.
Was gonna make this comment
“When you get intimate with her the first time” lol
Same with @15:56
@@hirogodsend
But "that what HE said"
Oh, it actually was released as specific to an 011D and dual chamber cases, there was a lot of information in February but it doesn't look like it's available for release through retailers yet. I hope everyone sees that the Edge models also have forward facing connections before they order them.
Never thought I'd be able to say "I want that PSU!" until now. That will absolutely be my next one. This PSU design coupled with BTF components would make a ridiculously clean build. I would love to see you do a BTF-based, custom loop build using this PSU to see how clean you can get it.
This PSU is making me excited for my next build. Granted, next build won't be for another 2-4 years, but still.
5:50 the moment you realise he is not faking the reviews and that is legit his first time seeing it. Nice! +5 social score +10 respect.
I have to agree that fan and RGB hubs are a natural extension of this design. it's very pretty :)
But fans and RGB dont need a lot of power, USB-PD does (it can demand up to 240W, so taking that power directly from PSU makes sense).
Giving it an active fan hub is really smart tho .... you can just take signal with virtually no load from mobo and the PSU will deliver all the power you need without worying about overloadig mobo header. I mean theese days you can have case with 10 or even more fans and if you go custom water loop you can have sigle preset for entire loop.
It's nice to see a PSU designed for dual chamber cases in mind, since there are so many of them out there these days. And the USB hub is a refreshing addition to see as well. There seems to never be enough USB ports on the main board. But AIO's and some RGB and fan hubs need them. Lian-Li has set the bar on this on IMO.
I've been wondering for a long time why there aren't more different options for power supply designs. I love the white aesthetic and the wires come with those comb thingies preinstalled for keeping your wires looking nice! I think I really like this PSU, but I'll bet it's out of my budget range.
I've actually got an extra USB header device (giving me 6 more usb headers) because my rig didn't have enough- that USB header idea is really great!
I'd LOVE to have RGB/Fan headers on a PSU- that's a really great idea, and it's got me thinking about more stuff now as well.
Thanks, quick question. Building a new PC, I'm using Intel BTF motherboard. I don't game, what's the best Intel CPU for video creation with "ok thermals" and good balance, if you were getting one? Great Channel.👍
It's probably because it is rated platinum that it is that small. Less heat to deal with and components can be assembled close together.
No doubt that's a big part of it, but I would imagine that GaN components and dc-dc step down converters are two of the biggest reasons for the diminutive size
In any case it's incredibly impressive how small modern PSUs are for the power they put out
Nothing boring about this one, Jay keep it up!
i think they shouldve made the connector block detachable and have it reverseable so the power supply can be mountable the other way up.
Yeahhhh,would be cool but.... We had cards burning because people couldn't seat the plugs. Can you imagine how they will mess this up😂 we aren't ready as species for this.
That would probably be a nightmare for the engineers designing it. An extra point of failure and connection point (added resistance) right next to the main board, I'm thinking that would be dicey and boost the price a lot.
The connector block is a part of the main board. I remember them saying that they were trying to simplify the production by doing away with the normal daugterboard with the connections as on normal psu´s.
I think it would be easier to just make an inverted version. They definately need to do that though for the cases that are meant to have the PSU fan oriented to the bottom.
@@nekoghostgunner1129 They could probably make the connectors on the other side of the lip/board. They just can´t move the lip because of the board. Otherwise just buy a normal PSU.
i really like the idea of having things integrated into the PSU.
1300w psu that small, what a time to be alive
think i have a 1200 watt corsair one that looks to be 2x the size of this one lol
@@AnotherLazybum No you don't, cause Corsair doesn't have 1200W in such an compact PSU. Their SF series are their smallest ones and they have just released their biggest at 1000W. Hence I think you're simply mistaken or trolling.
EDIT: Clearly misread and misunderstood here, my bad!
@@Dawelio bro he said his one is two times the size not half the size
@@DawelioRe-read again, he clearly stated that he had a Corsair psu that is almost 2 times bigger than this Lian Li ones. Probably referring to an AX1200I, that thing was long.
@@Dawelio typical looking so quickly to put another person down you misread his comment when he was agreeing with you, you are whats wrong with people nowadays the person was being non confrontational whatsoever even joking around a bit and someone somewhere has to get offended because they want to feel they're intellectually superior to someone else were literally all here to learn about pc parts just sit and watch
Regarding 06:44, there are some cards already and have been for a while, that use two of the 12VHpwr connectors, like f.e. the Galax HoF cards that are extreme OC focused. They first introduced that dual 12V connector with their 3090 Ti HoF OC Lab Edition, a LN2 focused card that had special unlocked OC Bioses available for it.
I would love to see the addition on the fan and RGB hubs as you suggested. Also since your adding a USB connection to the PSU anyway you could actually put a PWM and RGB controller in the PSU. You could also put the hardware in to allow software monitoring of the PSU.
If your building a dual chamber system based on the O11 concept and a LOT of people are, this PSU makes perfect sense.
10:11 That particular case's (Lancool 216) bottom mesh panel is removable. There's a single screw at the back and you slide the panel towards the rear to remove it.
Lian Li could offer the option to order small, medium, or large cables that would ship with that PSU. Customers could purchase from any online or mom-and-pop retailer and have the PSU shipped directly to the consumer, leaving the return process with those retailers. They could have a guide on ordering the cables needed for their case and/or the direction they would run them. Your idea to have a PMW and/or RBGW controller would be super beneficial while allowing the option to use whichever software to run those controllers.
J: "3 PCIe-cables for older series GPUs"
7900xtx: Am I a joke to you?
Considering they're the only ones that don't melt your GPU, they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
my 4090 asus strix also
I had the exact same thought
@@S4m4_Weird I have the same one and only use one cord with it
Jay only speaks in nvidia unless he is doing a review
Been using lian li everything since 2020, literally the best products I've ever purchased for PC components.
This makes ALOT of sense... My thought is the cables coming off the PSU should be 90degrees, and yes... they should be longer. Will be purchasing one of these as soon as they hit the market. Pretty cool!
The reason they include 2 types of the 12vhpwr cable is I believe to accommodate for the type of cards that require 3 pcie power cables. Its meant to be 1 or the other, not both. My msi 1000w psu also included the same 2 cables and menthions that.
I think it’s just that 6+2 headers are more useful and can cover a lot more pcie devices than just having two pcie 5 headers
I love the fact they are thinking outside of the box, that alone is huge! I agree fan and RGB hubs would make a great addition as well. Maybe they could have long, medium and short cable versions, or a standard cable option with the ability to order longer or shorter cables as needed a la carte maybe, or long/short extra kits. Either way, nice to see innovation!
I must have this for my 011 dynamic XL. It's perfect for that case and probably the copy cats too!
A build in fan hub that can detect the amount of power each device is drawing and automatically adjust the fan speed.
The powersupply is also connected with a usb hub, and the fan speed can be adjusted through that connection as well.
I'd love the idea of consolidating all the hubs into the PSU. Consolidating some of the case IO cables there and developing one standard cable could all be a neat way of making motherboards I bit less of a mess.
This is likely to be a Helly Tech core for those wondering. They are a lesser known OEM that used to be trash but in recent years have started producing decent quality stuff (not quite teir 1) for decent prices. If you want to look at reviews, look for 1st Player (their retail brand) - several of their recent platinum models have had solid if unexciting reviews - they tend to use slightly cheaper fets and fans to keep price down, but still look like good reliable units with all the stuff you would expect in a decent brand. (LLC, nippon chemi-con caps etc)
Radical designs like this are so awesome. Especially since it’s addressing so many annoyances that get in the way.
Brilliant.
Been a Lian Li fan and user of their cases exclusively going back to the satin finished, aluminum ones with CD and floppy accommodating removeable front covers. Built probably 40 PC for work, friends, family and myself exclusively with Lian Li cases and Asus motherboards. Abandoned Asus 3 PC's ago for very good reasons but still use Lian Li cases, fans, AIO's and will soon build another one with this power supply. Well done.
It is much appreciated to see that there are manufacturers who think differently
I love seeing the grouped 4 sata connector. When I purchased my Thermaltake Level 10 GTS years ago they had that setup making cable management easier
The addition of the USB hub is worth the price of admission alone. Bravo!
I dunno. People who buy PSUs like this generally but expensive boards which generally do not lack USB ports
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I'm personalizing it. I'm one of those people who buys expensive mobos (ASUS Maximus Z790 Hero) and I still like having more USB ports. But perhaps you are correct and the average premium mobo customer mayn't purchase it.
I think it's certainly nice to have in case it's needed, but I'd care much more for what Jay suggested, so fan connectors or (even better) ARGB connectors.
Why is a PSU handling input/output anyway? Even if motherboards are lacking in I/O I don't think it is the role of a PSU to solve that issue. The only justification I can see is if the power demands of modern USB devices are so high that you don't want to run it all through the motherboard. Otherwise it seems to me like a memory stick with an RGB header on it; even if the need is legitimate the component serving that need is out of its lane.
@@Phage0070 I couldn't agree more. This PSU is for suckers. Its like DLSS or Frame generation for I/O. An Ext powered usb hub is already better cable management with those pcie connectors intersecting each other.
I just installed this in my Corsair Air 540 and it cleaned up so much better than my old EVGA Super Nova G2 1000W. Also, the single 600W to my 4090 is nice.
Jay, you did something and now my algorithm loves you. I'm not sure what but love your videos. Keep it up.
This is actually really clever. I'd have to imagine it's easier for trace routing too since you don't have to have separate PCBs for the power supply itself and the connectors
its great, helps so much not having to make the big U at the end esp for the main mb cable. modular add ons would be a dream, so users can have the choice to add whatever additional headers they need
I like how it makes for a neater set up w/decent cable management
Through all this, I'm genuinely amazed that Jay didn't have a conniption about installing a white PSU and white cables, into a black case.
Disregard the fact there was a white 4060 installed already, I really thought his OCD was gonna make him explode.
Oreo builds are neat
Thank you Jay, I am going to get a black 850 watt version of this psu for my first build end this month. I really like the usb hub and the cables.
I can get onboard with PSU designed like this and including hubs in them as long as LianLi doesn't throw a hissy fit and start suing everyone again that makes ones similiar to this like they did with their fans.
neat, just have to wait till they hit Newegg shelf. will work fine in my Corsair 7000x case.
It'd almost be neat if a company got a bunch of cases and made a few different lengths of cable for the different cases. I don't mean like millimeter level customization on a per-case basis, but you can group them together pretty easily. I'm guessing most m-atx cases would need similar lengths, most mid-towers would be similar, etc.
thanks jay I've been looking for a nice psu upgrade and this one will no doubt compliment my Lian Li Dynamic Evo XL quite well
I like the design. I like the USB hub, now it needs RGB and fan-header hubs as well.
But what I'd really like to see is case, motherboard, video card and power supply manufacturers get together come out with a standard eliminated the need for cables all together.
Really glad to see this. I hope companies keep rethinking the design and features it could be really good for the consumer. If say Corsair were to include the LinkIQ hub in the power supply with the cables to connect USB2 and the link to the fans that would be a game changer.
8:26 Nice camera work.
JTC: "This might be one of the most inclusive power supplies I've ever experienced."
cam: Zooms out to a sea of cables.
It's an interesting power supply for multi chamber cases. The first thing I would do with it is, unpin one of the USB cable ends and run two pieces of white shrink wrap down it that are longer than the ones that came with it. 7:45
The USB is just an added bonus I feel. This is such a brilliant design. Leave it to Lian Li to just break all computer conventionalism again
Love your channel. You always keep it real.
I'm glad companies are starting to pack in the 12v. I hate having the three cables going to my 4090, it looks so bad and introduces another point of failure.
As for things to add in: I'd almost like to see a modular power supply. A hub that runs a very short set of cables from the power supply up to a hub - that hub having cable plugs going around it in almost a 360 so the cables can go anywhere it needs by just moving the hub. *hub and spoke
I really love the idea of building in a fan, argb and usb hub into the psu. Makes so much sense!
You know, saying most people install it facing down, alot of everyone still likes to have it help pull air through the case, as well in the grand scheme of things, it's still a very very new thing to have the PSU pulling air from outside the case instead of the inside. Also remember the old Gateway ( and other OEMs) machines that used the PSU fan ( pulling air in through the PSU in some cases) to also cool the CPU
I feel like providing cables on the smaller side was the correct move. Cable extensions available everywhere and pretty cheap. But cable replacements that are shorter are nearly impossible to find safely. So even though it’s a bummer for big cases, I think it was the right move
If we are going to go into so much detail regarding the appearance of the innards of our pc I think that I should point out that however you orient this PSU (up or down), the model name and letters on the window side will be upside down and ironically the letters facing the backside of the case will be correctly oriented. I hope whoever buys this one doesn't have a perforated or mesh design PSU compartment.
That is a very interesting concept. I'd be shocked if no one else started doing that. Very good video. Actually made power supplies a fun topic.
Add a power draw meter so you know if you still have headroom.
USB hub is indeed excellent. Another good thing could be a PSU health indicator (for those without tools to check it), similar to how motherboards have codes to indicate things going wrong with various parts of them. Of course, as a user of the Cosmos II 25th Anniversary Edition Ultra Tower Chassis, I definitely agree it should have longer cable length availability (whether included in the default purchase, as a different SKU, or available separately). I still use optical drives, unlike most people, too.
It looks good and practical too, well done Lian Li.👍🥰
I just started building in a white Lian Li 216. That PSU would be such overkill for me but oh is that sweet, and with the USB hub. You are right Jay, if they included a fan and/or ARGB hub too the PSU would become the new Star of the Show.
I like how you can customize the cables that come out of it.
This PSU mounted vertically and a motherboard with the connectors on the back, you would be able to have the shortest wires ever and not have to worry about cable management. The one cable I think they should make/add is a SATA for SSD's that are vertically mounted on the back that are farther apart than in a drive cage. Having 1 cable with the 2 SATA plugs spread far enough apart to reach both drives and at an orientation that they would sit flat against the back.
13:55 you could have a fan wire that only has PWM and sense for a fan hub on the PSU as the PSU can supply 12v and ground directly
What would be really nice is if all PSU companies had the same exact plug on the PSU side so that all wires were interchangeable. Then if you need a longer cable you could just go to the store and buy the size you want in the style you want... it would also make cable mods a lot clearner as you don't have 2 sets of cables in the bottom of the case, only 1 set.
This would also allow for you to buy really short cables for the side by side cases so that you don't have much, if any, excess cable so things can be really clean.
Hi Jay, i like the idea. And i support your idea of integrating fan and rgp hubs too. consider that together with 48V mainboards and connectors on the back side of the motherboard and we will get much cleaner builds 🙂
It's popular in a lot of MATX and ITX cases to mount the power supply against the front wall of the case with the fan facing outward. Because the fan and cable ports face the same way on this PSU, all of your cables would run toward the front and have to turn around. Probably not a big deal though, unless the cables can't tolerate the bend radius. Just thinking through my keyboard.
Lian is like the only pc hardware manufacturer that is still innovating
Since it was about a power supply I decided to run the video at 2x speed. Not only could I understand and follow every word, it softens the blow of the content. But what I found to be the most humorous is that I couldn’t stop thinking that this was regular speed and (no offense or insinuation here) they Jay had done a few hog leg size line of powder😂 . If u want a laugh just hold down on you mobile screen for 30 specs of the video and watch him go❤
I think it is an awesome idea for dual chamber cases. In fact, I just bought the black one. Should be perfect for my LL 011 XL. Corsair Shift is also a good idea, but I use all my cases hard drive cages, so the Lian Li's orientation is better.
I enjoy your videos a lot thank you for all your effort
I love this new version of a PSU. I see the pros & cons but I definitely will consider it for my next Rig. Thanks Jay( & crew)
That usb hub is a great idea. I work on custom systems for things like lighting control, entertainment control systems and such. And the facepanel controllers on these systems are all USB2.0. In some cases you need 3 or 4 motherboard hubs, which means buying a separate hub, or being very picky with your mobo. Having an integrated hub is a great idea.... but... these are all commercial systems that only draw like... 300-400watts under full load, some of them draw like 45 watts total.
Just ordered the black 1300W for my new build in an O11D EVO XL. Can't wait 😎
Nice! I have this case also! What was the result? Is the PSU silent? Thanks!
I like it. I'm getting a 011 XL anyway, so I think I'll give this a look when I get to Micro Center. I'm thinking I will slip a piece of white rubber pad I have laying around here, about 1/16th thick between the cables and the USB ports for shielding. Maybe not needed, but that just my ocd. Thanks Jay 🤗
A lot of this I like.
Suggestion for PSU manufacturers: sell 2 or 3 different sizes so we can buy it with the Sml, Med, or Large length cable sets. Or comes in 2 boxes, buy the PSU & cable set separately, buy more PCIe/CPU/SATA/Molex separately to suit needs. A USB header to USB hub w RGB/fan control could be it's own little box not just integrated with PSU.
Who wants to see a bar graph/ RGB by the PSU indicating the recent peak power & longer average like sound level on an audio mixers?
Man I wish this was available a year or so ago when I built my 011D EVO build. Would have been so nice for cable management and saved money not "needing" custom cables.
I wouldn't need the back plate because my motherboard has a lot of USB headers but my Bluetooth Wi-Fi card has a USB port right on it. But it's nice seeing that all of that was thought about.
I just looked at the pricing for these PSUs and they are HALF what I expected them to be. If they can keep them in stock I think this is a MASSIVE win! I expect to be replacing my evga 650 soon and this is now at the top of my list.
they need to make one designed to go "upside down" , like have the fan on the bottom next to the extension, then you can do one pulling from under the case.
That Design is GENIUS... Well Played Lian-Li, Guaranteed other PSU Companies will Now "Adopt" that Design 🤣🤣🤣
And the consumers win.
Corsair did that years ago.
@@gutsbobbles7973 Trash implementation, you can't mount the psu on its side cause the cables wont fit.
This is a well known design in servers.
@@HKl1502 just use dual a chamber case.
Jay 12 V high power that goes to dual eight pins for people with older GPU. So you can still use the 12 V high-power for those GPU.
I appreciate the layout greatly. It would be beneficial to have the output section designed to be removable, so flipping the PSU over would still preserve its impressive appearance.
I bought the one from corsair where the cables connect to the side for a conventional case and I love it. So much easier to connect the cables .
The power supply is designed for their fan controllers, you want two different fan types and strimmer cables you’ll need a usb 2.0 splitter for sure, with this eliminates all those problems that people have had for years.
Brilliant design. And love the ideas of USB + Fan + ARGB
Outta the Park Lian LI. Looks soo clean Jay! Beautiful management.
This is definitely very cool. And yeah, it's about time that we started seeing USB integration directly on the PSU, a fan hub would be very cool too. Great way to rely less on stingey motherboards or proprietary hub solutions.
I use a splitter for my sata drives because I have 5 sata drives and only 2 sata power, so seeing so much thought on this PSU is so nice to see. I love it!
This is the reason why I´ll never dodge Lian Li even tho it´s more expensive. You know these guys care about their customers because they freaking listen and always go for the innovation. I´ll never regret paying premium prices for Lian Li because they do a great job.
They can read my mind. My mobo has only 1 USB connector and I was about to spend 30 bucks on 2 adapter cables but from a chinese brand I don´t even know... I just hope they have a 850W or maybe 1000W version of this.