Drummer reacts to "Into the Lens" by Yes

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @anthonyblakely399
    @anthonyblakely399 9 месяцев назад +14

    This album is really an Awesome Amazing album. A Masterpiece! I got it for my birthday in 1985. My friends knew I love Yes....so I got it as a birthday gift and 2 tickets for a Yes concert. Good reaction.

  • @DeesoSaeed
    @DeesoSaeed 9 месяцев назад +6

    The whole group shines in this one, but damn Steve Howe really kills it.

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад +3

      He really does. Steve is just the man!!

  • @Raistlin306
    @Raistlin306 9 месяцев назад +9

    Drama is so special, at the time the holes left by Jon and Rick were tough to fill. Trevor was perfect for this music, though with the older Yes material he struggled. This version of Yes always made me think that the remaining guys were just going to prove what they could do without Jon and Rick. The songs are very intense and the playing is blistering at spots, you will love Tempus Fugit. Especially the bass, Chris is extraordinary at creating memorable bass lines.

  • @FUBAR1986
    @FUBAR1986 4 месяца назад +1

    When this album came out in 1980 I had just graduated high school in New York and moved to Texas while I was waiting to go in the Navy….. as a drummer. I was floored by their Progressive way and instantly fell in love with this song because of the staccato triplets unbelievable. They’re so good.
    ☮️❤️🙏🌍🌎🌏🇺🇸❤️☮️

  • @bf99ls
    @bf99ls 9 месяцев назад +9

    The underlying song is strong. It was written by The Buggies (ie pop duo and producers Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes), who had a song they hadn’t reloaded (or named yet).
    Shortly after Drama, they recorded their second album, Adventures In Modern Recording (1981) which featured a different version of the song: I Am A Camera.
    Horn produced the more modern, less proggy Yes album, 90125, best known for Owner Of A Lonely Heart, in 1983.

    • @yes_head
      @yes_head 9 месяцев назад +2

      Geoff wasn't really involved with Adventures in Modern Recording. It can almost be considered a Trevor Horn solo album.

    • @bf99ls
      @bf99ls 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@yes_head
      Indeed. He joined Asia right after Drama as I understand it. But he did contribute to writing the songs.

  • @normandaubry
    @normandaubry 9 месяцев назад +13

    Lee you are cruel! Letting us know in advance what’s coming, but letting us wait to see it is a bit of a torture😉. Can’t wait to see your reaction to this great song from Drama. P.S. I am happy that you kept Does it Really Happen and Tempus Fugit for later. As much as I like Into the Lens, Chris’ bass lines are so good on these two songs that it makes them my two favorites from this album, after the Machine Messiah tour de force. I got this album the day it came out in 1980, and I still remember the 1st time I listened to it.

    • @Humb7757
      @Humb7757 9 месяцев назад +5

      As a true Yes Fan, like you, I bought it too… that day. And never was deceived by it… so many ‘memories
      …how they fade so fast… look back, there is no escape.Tied down now you see too late’
      Magnificent song and words!
      Epic it became!

  • @lorcazola
    @lorcazola 9 месяцев назад +7

    Man, you are hitting it on all 8 cyclinders ! So many EPIC hits ! 14:38 MUSIC SAVES !

  • @duanesmith1523
    @duanesmith1523 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Buggles version of this is good too. It's called I Am A Camera. lol. It's on the Adventures in Modern Recording album which came out after this. Right before Trevor Horn became Mr. Producer of the 80's with recordings like 90125, Seal, ABC, Frankie Goes to Hollywood. etc.

  • @jstock2317
    @jstock2317 9 месяцев назад

    Drama is pleasantly pleasant 😊 they really nailed it and kept to the Yes mission while Jon was doin his thang.

  • @gpg9516
    @gpg9516 9 месяцев назад

    ‘I am a camera’ is also the opening line of a 1939 novel by Christopher Isherwood called ‘Goodbye to Berlin’. It chronicles life in Berlin just before the rise of #|+l€r. It also introduced the character of Sally Bowles, the central focus of a musical called ‘Cabaret’ from the 70s(?). I’m pretty sure the members of a band like Yes are well read and probably familiar, in passing anyway, with Isherwood’s novel. This track from Drama is yet another gem from a stellar lp.

  • @dolfinpt
    @dolfinpt 9 месяцев назад +13

    I was ready to not like this album without Jon A.
    But a few listens and you Can’t deny it’s pretty good.
    I LOVE Tempist Fugit with its resounding “YES”!
    Love Machine Messiah as well!
    Still holding out for MIND DRIVE off of KEYS 2!❤🙏

    • @scottbrewer9676
      @scottbrewer9676 9 месяцев назад +3

      Machine Messiah is a beast of a tune! Tempus Fugit as well, of course.

    • @phillyflyer12
      @phillyflyer12 9 месяцев назад

      I echo your sentiments.
      It was hard enough letting go of Bill Bruford. But then Jon A. too?
      Remarkable record. It grew on me.

    • @frankhoulihanfh4972
      @frankhoulihanfh4972 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. Turns out Drama is pretty much classic Yes. Took us old Yesheads awhile to catch up to it, to their genius. Wonderful stuff.

  • @PJprog
    @PJprog 9 месяцев назад +2

    You can't turn the clock back but just wish they'd have carried on through the 80's with this vibe. Just wicked....I had a rather nice Sansui turntable I played this album on , and can still remember hearing Machine Messiah for the very first time on it. Memories of music-related stuff fills my head. Such is my passion. Thanks Lee. 😍

  • @joelliebler5690
    @joelliebler5690 9 месяцев назад +4

    A superb song and my favorite from Drama!Maybe Alan’s best drum performances on this album!Steve’s guitar playing is him at peak level !TLso great harmonizing on the vocals!When I purchased this album upon its release I did not realize at first that Jon was not on the album!

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад +1

      Dude you aren't kidding about alan... he was literally in the zone here. I was shocked on the second listen at the roll he was getting on those snare hits. Definitely proto metal lol

  • @jamiedimond9419
    @jamiedimond9419 9 месяцев назад +3

    Machine Messiah🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @topographic1973ify
    @topographic1973ify 9 месяцев назад

    This is the song that connected Yes to The Buggles. If you like this album you might like Fly From Here The Return Flight. The first version was recorded with Benoit David but engineered by Trevor Horn. Trevor did the vocals on the second version.

  • @bauertime
    @bauertime 9 месяцев назад

    I saw them on this tour and I have never heard a concert sound just like the album without being lip synced.

  • @jamesadkisson7510
    @jamesadkisson7510 8 месяцев назад

    This was the tour I saw. I enjoyed it. Back then with no Internet the information about the line up change was not that widely known. I read music magazines and had the album. But for other people it was a surprise and they were not all kind towards Trevor at the concert.

  • @MrBlond777
    @MrBlond777 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great 👍 reaction. I hope you listen to Does It Really Happen off Drama. It’s always been one of my favorites and Squire’s vocals are incredible. Great 😊 channel…thx for all the great music reactions!

  • @FormulaProg
    @FormulaProg 4 месяца назад

    Amazing from Alan White this one. My 2nd favourite yes album... Love it.

  • @Oron-n5l
    @Oron-n5l 3 месяца назад

    Trevor Horn originally wrote and recorded this song while still working under the name The Buggles (yes, of MTV fame, "Video Killed the Radio Star"). The Buggles original version was titled "I Am a Camera" and it was amazingly sophisticated for so-called Electro-Pop.
    Definitely react to it, for comparison and to understand why Yes invited The Buggles to join them, to face The Future in the 1980s.
    Now, here is where it gets interesting, believe it or not.
    "I Am a Camera" is a memoir/novel by a writer who lived in Berlin, Germany during the 1920s Jazz Age. He was part of the Lost Generation, soldiers who lived through the Great War (World War One) but who lost their souls and their minds. Berlin was a world hot spot of artistic creativity and Bohemian weirdness, and meanwhile, the Nazis were just starting to take over German society, intending to kill the creative spark and the influence of the many Jewish and homosexual artists and influencers.
    There was a B&W movie based on this novel, called "I Am a Camera", but later, in 1972, came the colour Musical film, "Cabaret", starring Michael York ("Logan's Run", 1974's "The Three Musketeers") and Liza Minnelli -- daughter of Judy Garland, star of "The Wizard of Oz".
    And then came The Buggles. And then came Yes.
    --OronOfMontreal

  • @YESFan1971
    @YESFan1971 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love YESSaturdays. Can't wait wait for Does It Really Happen. Have a good weekend.

  • @FireMunki63
    @FireMunki63 9 месяцев назад +3

    The Irony of this track is that it is really one written for Adventures in Modern Recording the next Buggles album and its very much a Downes/Horn track. Its worth noting that Trevor Horn is an excellent Bassist in his own right.

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, I was quite impressed by his bass-playing in a live version of 'Close To The Edit' with Art Of Noise at his tribute event some years ago 😀
      I like both versions of this song, by the way 😊

    • @pauld669
      @pauld669 9 месяцев назад

      Pretty sure Trevor played Bass on “Run through the light”

  • @TigerMtnKing
    @TigerMtnKing 9 месяцев назад +1

    YES!!!🤩

  • @robertstoner8244
    @robertstoner8244 9 месяцев назад

    I saw this concert in Madison square garden . So yes played this album. I was up front. Was just amazing. For like 10 dollars a ticket

  • @johng.8517
    @johng.8517 9 месяцев назад

    It's gotta be the only song written about a camera. LOL.

  • @paulehney4581
    @paulehney4581 9 месяцев назад +1

    The musicl quality on this album was incredible. I didn't think I would like it because of the change but was won over by the new members. It's happened so many times over the years I've been listening to Yes. Perpetual Change like I said before! Yeah, Chris was Yes's soul in many ways.

  • @janecrow1122
    @janecrow1122 8 месяцев назад

    My favorite! Hope you like it. Peace, all 💕

  • @raymondregis6219
    @raymondregis6219 9 месяцев назад +1

    When this came out we were disappointed at first but we learned to love this album too. Into the Lens was already written by Geoff and Trevor for a Buggles album but it's very different. Chris, Steve and Alan added a lot. We all miss Chris and Alan (and Peter).

  • @markjohnson4217
    @markjohnson4217 9 месяцев назад

    Drama was my intro to YES actually. I was sold right away, then I went out and bought Close to the Edge!! Then Fragile and there was no turning back. Just wait til you hear the album closer, Tempus Fugit, still one of YES's best, it was definitely a nod and wink to the Fragile era...

  • @rhondamcewananderson3968
    @rhondamcewananderson3968 9 месяцев назад

    I love all the lineups of Yes! ❤️🤗🎶

  • @wfamdaxj
    @wfamdaxj 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Buddy, it was so weird when this came out. I was sceptical before I even listened to it. Probably because of the absence of Jon. But you know what Tevor sings nicely and with Chris doing harmony's.... Well I think they nailed it. And being so fucking tight never let's you down... crazy kind of Modern. Keep doing your thing.... Peace.🖖

  • @NickWebber-vp4pd
    @NickWebber-vp4pd 9 месяцев назад

    That was tight…almost impossible to play those syncopations while singing at the same time…and to remain so tight…blows me away…😮

  • @brianfisher6165
    @brianfisher6165 9 месяцев назад

    I agree!!!✌✌😁😁

  • @GES8215
    @GES8215 9 месяцев назад

    Tempus fugit is going to blow your mind

  • @TDRFamilyGaming
    @TDRFamilyGaming 9 месяцев назад

    Nice. Always wondered what this is about. I think it’s just artistic license to look at things from different perspectives. Sometimes it’s “transferring energy” and sometimes it’s just “here by the waterside”. Depends on the viewers perspective of the photo and what the lens sees. I dunno. Fun song, rhythms, harmonies, and grooves. :)

  • @GES8215
    @GES8215 9 месяцев назад +1

    Trevor didn’t pretend or try to be Jon he did his own thing. That’s why this album and 90125 Rabin works, and why the garbage with Benoit and Davidson suck.

  • @michaelbriefs9764
    @michaelbriefs9764 9 месяцев назад

    I used to practice this song on my set at home (where my parents lived), back in the 80's! I saw the Drama tour (also saw the 90125 tour), which amazed me! Allan White's set was on a mechanical riser that went up and down and it also spun in circles! That was incredible! Great show, great album. Was Steve playing steel guitar? I thought he was just using a slide on his regular hollow-body electric. Whatever, really cool time for Yes, just before they blew up with 90125!

  • @martinduner1844
    @martinduner1844 9 месяцев назад +1

    Do listen to the Buggles version too! (I Am A Camera).

  • @chazblitz
    @chazblitz 9 месяцев назад +2

    My favorite Yes album. With Relayer coming in 2nd. Not a popular opinion but honest. I love all the stuff from the debut up until Big Generator but this one is one notch above.

    • @scottbrewer9676
      @scottbrewer9676 9 месяцев назад +1

      Steve's guitar work on these 2 albums is MY favorite. The tones, structure choices and slide work are phenomenal on both. Edit* ""these 2 albums" being Drama and Relayer. 🙂

  • @Lightmane
    @Lightmane 9 месяцев назад +1

    Into the Lens is a great song

  • @tentruesummers9043
    @tentruesummers9043 9 месяцев назад

    It wasn't a bad tour either...Trevor's voice gave out after about an hour, but still enjoyable for the music. Look closely...I'm wearing the tour t-shirt!

  • @jamiedimond9419
    @jamiedimond9419 9 месяцев назад

    entire album 🎉

  • @yes_head
    @yes_head 9 месяцев назад

    This was definitely a bit of a left turn upon first listen in 1980, but you could tell this must have been a Buggles song handed to Chris, Steve and Alan. "It's so cinematic sounding"... "This feels like it could be a movie soundtrack"... Funny you should say that. One of the leftovers from this period that was revived for the 2011 album Fly From Here -- seen as a sort of Drama Part 2 -- is "Life on a Film Set". The Buggles also had a song on their first album called "Elstree" that was an homage to vintage British cinema, so cinematic imagery and soundscapes run through both the Buggles and this period of Yes music.

  • @jamescpotter
    @jamescpotter 9 месяцев назад

    This was their best effort in the later years.

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад

      So far, I totally agree 👍

  • @joeyblowey123456
    @joeyblowey123456 9 месяцев назад

    So glad you are digging Drama. Can't wait until you hit "Tempus Fugit". Awesome bass line from Chirs. One of his best.

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад +1

      I really am. Machine messiah is one of my favorites ever from them and this was great too. I can't wait to hear the other two hits ☺️

  • @jamiedimond9419
    @jamiedimond9419 9 месяцев назад

    first good album since Close Edge

  • @jimmayors2315
    @jimmayors2315 9 месяцев назад

    There is a video of the performing this. Amazing how Steve Howe can jump between 3 electric sring instruments and keep it cohesive.

  • @ShiverHinge
    @ShiverHinge 9 месяцев назад

    Goeff and Chris’s voices are very similar and work well together. It’s the only non-Jon album worth listening to. Thanks Lee!

  • @bornagaincretin
    @bornagaincretin 9 месяцев назад +1

    "you can hear the future there"...this one here plus Nothing To Lose from U.K.'s Danger Money have to be the blueprints for Asia, right?

  • @jeffschielka7845
    @jeffschielka7845 9 месяцев назад

    YES❣️❣️❣️🎵🎼🎶🔈🔉🔊😎

  • @gregjones861
    @gregjones861 9 месяцев назад +1

    L33: This is all well and good. Certainly Chris, Steve and Alan are great here. But when you finally react to Your Move/All Good People (prefer Yessongs version but studio is also great) you will realize that you are racing forward sooner than you needed to. Just my opinion, though.

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад +1

      I got a request for this album so I had to do it. I'm still gonna go back though don't worry 😉

  • @sigil5772
    @sigil5772 9 месяцев назад

    Around 4:40 - I've always felt not exactly unique, because (convergent evolution perhaps?) this bit always reminds me of the quiet middle section in Genesis' Eleventh Earl of Mar. For me, the best-arranged song on the whole album.

  • @GeoffTrowbridge
    @GeoffTrowbridge 9 месяцев назад +1

    This album surprised everyone when it came out, and of course ended up being a perfect transitional stage into their ‘80s sound. Trevor Horn produced the next album “90125” and his imprint is still all over the sound there.
    Definitely do “Tempus Fugit” and “Does It Really Happen” off this album. The other two tracks are fine, but skippable.

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад +1

      We will definitely be doing those two. Just from machine messiah and this track, I already really like this album. Can't wait to hear the other hits from it!

  • @j.jennings1722
    @j.jennings1722 9 месяцев назад

    I'm not a big fan of the lyrics and vocals of this Yes song, but the instrumentals are so good that I can look past what I consider cheesy, silly lyrics.
    Drama is not my least favorite Yes album (that would go to Heaven and Earth) but ranks in my bottom 5. However, unlike H&E, I do love three songs on this album, and like another one, and "Tempus Fugit" is one of the songs I love. ❤✌

  • @britannicvalente
    @britannicvalente 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Lee! Been a minute since I've commented. The time around the holidays is always busy. Hope you and your family are doing good! Wanted to see if you got my Kansas request. No rush just wanted to make sure it came through. Take care man :)

  • @rosshartley5807
    @rosshartley5807 9 месяцев назад +3

    I'm a new subscriber, and love your reactions. You should react to Stevie Ray Vaughan doing "Texas Flood" Live at the El Mocambo. He's the blues guitar GOAT, and this is basically a 9-minute solo that's as amazing to watch as anything else you've reacted to.

    • @normandaubry
      @normandaubry 9 месяцев назад

      I totally agree. And the Mocambo performance his probably his best. In my mind he is the GOAT, whatever the style of guitar playing. He’s the most sensitive and emotional player that I heard or seen live (twice). It seems that there’s no limit to his technical mastery, his inspiration and his emotional dept. And he is incredibly tasteful with his choices of tones and notes. However slow of fast he plays, he always find the right note to speak to you. And when you see him play it seems like his guitar isn’t an instrument he controls, but more one organ, a part of his body. Before seeing him Steve Howe was my favorite, and I listened mostly to prog and mostly valued trchnical prowess. Stevie opened the door to blues for me and changed the way I listen to music and what I value as a listener. If you haven’t had the chance to check his « sound check » video I strongly suggest it. It’s mind blowind🤯

    • @robotronrichard
      @robotronrichard 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing yesterday while I was listening to Tin Pan Alley live from Montreal off of Couldn’t Stand The Weather. We gotta introduce Lee to Stevie Ray. Just amazing. And your selection would be a great choice

  • @jareczek1980
    @jareczek1980 9 месяцев назад

    I told you😁

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад

      Lol yeah that was so damn good 👍

  • @tapanilaitinen1653
    @tapanilaitinen1653 9 месяцев назад

    Too Rainbow stargazer next.

  • @ShiverHinge
    @ShiverHinge 9 месяцев назад

    Oops I mean Trevor?

  • @treacadelic
    @treacadelic 9 месяцев назад

    Hand them someone else's writing and make sure Alan, Chris and Steve are on it, it sounds like Yes

  • @petermastronardi6641
    @petermastronardi6641 9 месяцев назад

    R you kidding me great song not really YES but still smoking. Love everything about YES and there offshoots..

  • @AirDOGGe
    @AirDOGGe 9 месяцев назад +5

    I was never a big fan of the DRAMA album, being so different from previous YES albums and lacking the unique strings of Steve Howe, wicked keys of Wakeman and the magical, mystical lyrics, voice and style of Jon Anderson. That said, I could not tell you how many times I have listened to it. Drama is good stuff, but I feel like it marked the end of YES as I knew and love them, and the was some truth to that. Even today I have a hard time thinking of it as a YES album. At least Squire was still there.
    See you Friday. Oops! I mean Saturday unless you got the premier date wrong ("Premiers in 31 hours").

    • @Lightmane
      @Lightmane 9 месяцев назад +3

      Steve Howe was on Drama

    • @TigerMtnKing
      @TigerMtnKing 9 месяцев назад +1

      And Alan.🤩@@Lightmane

    • @AirDOGGe
      @AirDOGGe 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Lightmane I stand corrected. It HAS been a long time since I listened to it (early 1980s).
      Details: "In June 1979, the Yes line-up of Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman, and Alan White completed their 1978-1979 tour in support of Tormato. The five reconvened in November 1979 to start work on a new album. After the various problems they faced while recording Tormato, Yes decided to work in Paris with Roy Thomas Baker to oversee its production. Anderson and Wakeman entered the sessions with enthusiasm and wrote more material together than they had before, but the rest of the band felt the songs were too light and folk-oriented and started writing more aggressive and direct arrangements. The growing internal differences, described by Anderson as a "loss of respect for each other", led to Squire, Howe, White and Baker coming to sessions late, which discouraged Anderson and Wakeman, the latter at times refusing to leave his hotel room to rehearse. Conversely, Howe recalls Wakeman frequently throwing peanuts at White's drum kit during takes of a song he was getting tired of, which in addition to being very noisy and distracting through the other members' headphones took considerable effort to clean up.
      Anderson and Wakeman left the studio to drink Calvados in a bar; in Wakeman's words: "Jon and I got really quite depressed and started crying on each other's shoulders and Jon said 'This is not the band that I love, this is not the band that I wanted to keep on going', [and I replied] 'I'm with you, Jon'". The sessions were ultimately called off after White cracked a bone in his right ankle while roller skating with Richard Branson in a nightclub, rendering him unable to perform for about six weeks. Following a break over Christmas, the band reconvened in London for rehearsals in an attempt to salvage the situation. They failed, and Anderson and Wakeman left in March 1980"

    • @carlosmachucabustamante2965
      @carlosmachucabustamante2965 9 месяцев назад

      Drama have more Yes Flavour than Tormato!!!!... I enjoy more...

  • @chrismatthews8717
    @chrismatthews8717 9 месяцев назад

    It's a really good album, but Trevor was uncomfortable being the vocalist for Yes. I saw them on tour, and he looked petrified,

  • @rodneygriffin7666
    @rodneygriffin7666 9 месяцев назад

    Me: when you get so old,
    That your nostril hairs turn gray and so thick that you need nose clippers or a weed Wacker to cut these coarse, annoying fuckers from your face so you can breathe without some piece of gray rope dangling like a cable from old Radio Shack...
    That's when you know you are done.
    🤣♥️
    I Am A Camera! 📷

  • @HendersonDavid-m8r
    @HendersonDavid-m8r 9 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah, call me a YES "purist", but this was not the type of music I fell in love with YES for. It just "feels" contrived, predictable, uncreative, dispassionate, commercialized...and doesn't make me cry at the end (if I can get that far). Just sayin'. Now, they DID come out with a GREAT album later..."Talk", which you will eventually, if not already, discover. I DO appreciate your effort to evaluate each song on its merits, but this one is a "meh" for me. Keep up your good work. Thanks.

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts  9 месяцев назад +1

      Here is endless dream from Talk ruclips.net/video/CGEWyToFllM/видео.html
      I'm glad you watched at least. Thank you my friend

  • @VaGuy66
    @VaGuy66 9 месяцев назад

    I'm not sure if you look at comments a day after your posting of videos, but you have to do the official video of Yes tempest fugit! They are young in this but it's one hell of a video. You'll see their keyboardist known as the wizard and his crazy setup. As well as Chris play the hell out of his bass! You will definitely enjoy it.

  • @Michael-Philip
    @Michael-Philip 9 месяцев назад

    🔥🔥New Sub 🔥🔥🔥

  • @donaldbass6737
    @donaldbass6737 9 месяцев назад

    No Jon Anderson…a “Buggles” tune. My favorite band of all time without the ONE person who cannot be replaced. Not “Yes”.

  • @nonrepublicrat
    @nonrepublicrat 9 месяцев назад

    Dude, you disrespect YES when you compare this rancid garbage to the real YES.

  • @nonrepublicrat
    @nonrepublicrat 9 месяцев назад

    This is NOT a real YES album, and it is worthless crap. "I am a camera". How juvenile and idiotic as hell!!