I didn't have time to include this in the video, but during that stream we briefly discussed Dr Phil's history as well and like... why are famous doctors all so shady? Anyway, next stream should be even more fun B^) twitch.tv/dangelno
Are we really, in 2021, not comprehending why someone who has been in a violent or abusive situation wouldn't want to talk to the cops about it? Where have you all been hiding out in this post-MeToo, current-BLM "defund the police, abolish ICE" world?
@@SeymourDisapproves It's not as easy as one would think it is to open up about the traumatic experiences they've gone through in their lives for a multitude of reasons, the main one being that they think that no one would believe them or help them if they did open up about their issues and believe me you when I say that this has been the case for many people, but this should've been an obvious answer to your question. Also, after everything that went on last year and now with poc getting killed by the police left and right (although, that's nothing new and has been going on for far too long), who would really feel safe reporting their issues to the police, apart from them thinking that they still wouldn't be safe if they went to to the police regardless?
When he said something like, "Just because someone has a terrible personality, doesn't mean they don't deserve justice for being sexually assaulted." YES bruh. A bajillion times yes. It frustrates me so much when people don't get the help they need just because everyone has labeled them evil and undeserving.
And most of the times, the bad behaviour from a victim is a direct result of being sexually assaulted or treated bad in any way when they were kids and still developing.
it's important to point out that she's not demanding money nor any kind of spotlight, she just wants an apology, which is the least he could've done after sending kids to that prison
does anyone also remember when he victim blamed a girl who was groomed by a grown man at 17 to live with him and his wife? they were pitying the wife for being jealous when her husband is literally a predator. And that time a girl with delusions cane onto the show, he wrote all her trauma on the whiteboard, and told her to get off his stage bc she “wanted attention.” all she did was get embarrassed when the audience was laughing at her. i wonder if they’ve gone to the camp too.
i don't remember because im not a regular watcher, but i *do* remember him harassing someone with DID (a CHILDHOOD TRAUMA disorder with memory gaps btw!!) on stage because she switched to a younger part and he was like "you do remember!! you do!! stop lying"
I've never seen his show but big joel made a video about him a while back and i can't believe a "psychologist" could act so ignorant of... well, psychology.
he also told a trans woman to just "be better to her family" even though her family were being blatantly transphobic to her, and her brother literally misgendered and deadnamed her on the show, to her face
People want to dismiss Danielle’s account but what about the other girl that was assaulted? It’s like they completely forgot the only reason she’s speaking out is because a girl was sa by a staff member
I didn't like her but even as I heard these things that so horrible how can a place like that exist how come it hasn't been shut down what a twisted world we live in I feel bad she and all those kids had to go through all that
And there have been others speaking out since as well. Dismiss her like there aren't handfuls of people now speaking out about not just this place but many others.
I love how the main talking point for those who don’t believe Danielle is that the she’s not used to “tough love”. Putting your child in an environment with sexual abuse is not tough love at all.
During her IG live she was telling her story and at some point towards the end her mom started saying “I don’t believe that, I doubt that very much” and Danielle got super upset her voice started cracking while she said “I swear to you it did it did” and people were like “you’re talking back to your mom rn, that’s why you went to the ranch”. People are sick in the head
@@belbarcelos9264 holy shit that's so disgusting. Her mom is literally doubting her abuse, of course that's going to upset her. It makes me wonder if she started acting up because she was abused and her mom ignored her so she kept ramping up the act until she landed on Dr. Phil.
@@rockercaterrorencountered4924 Her mom would always interrupt whenever Danielle mentioned the parents role in sending the kids to the ranch, she was saying they should do more research because that place had a crap ton of lawsuits since ever. But her mom downplays a lot of her experiences and doesn’t want to admit that she had some responsibility for what happened to Danielle.
@@belbarcelos9264 I kind of understand that because I could see her mom being caught up in "I have to do what the professional is telling me to do", but also it's super easy to just apologize to your kid instead of talking over her when she speaks about abuse.
the fact that people can’t see past her past is mind-blowing to me. she was a child (a troubled one) who was going through a mix of emotions, and then there was this man she never met ridiculing her without really knowing her mindset. then on top of that he sends her to this horrible ranch who mentally, emotionally & maybe physically abused the children they were supposed to “help”. and when danielle shows leaps of development & maturity people still can’t see past the fact of her past? what type of “clout” could she get from this? when danielle was younger all people did was hate on her and belittle her & now that she’s matured & is doing something good with her platform people still find a way to bring up her past & belittle her further. the fact of the matter isn’t of what danielle may or may not have done in her past, it’s the fact that she is speaking out about the abuse she may have faced at the ranch & how she is supporting another victim who spoke their truth. it’s sickening.
Right?? Like she's sitting there talking formally!! she's not yelling, she's not portraying the person she used to be...because she has done some GROWING. It's just sad some people don't get that.
I agree! Before I didn’t necessarily like her and just moved about my day. I watched the video like a day after it came out or like a few hours and it made sense to see how troubling it was for her and I could also see how mature she has gotten. I don’t watch her content nor do I think I will but I do have respect for her rn and hope justice is served.
Well said. People forget that Danielle was only 13 when she went on that show. Dr.Phil and his live audience was mocking and egging on a minor for entertainment.She used that opportunity to at least capitalize of the whole ordeal. That was 5 years ago and like you said, she has matured and using her platform to spread awareness. People need to to realize, that people can change and it doesn't matter what they did when they were 13, what matters is she speaking out and trying to help other trouble kids and bringing awarness to the parents that they need to do their research and proper vetting instead if blindly trusting these facilities.
The thing that gets me is how Dr. Phil reacted to this whole thing. Like all this girl wanted was an apology. She didn't ask for financial compensation. She didn't demand he shut down his show. She didn't ask hin to fall on his sword. The bar was on the floor and he started digging to get under it.
omg this is so off topic but I cant for the life of me remember what that last sentence is for I remember it being about guys in general....was it tumblr or Pinterest help i-
Another thing about telling children being abused by adults to file a police report is that, in my experience, the cops always believe the adults over you.
Cops assume kids are lying which is fucking ridiculous because a lot of kids don't even have the capacity to lie about abuse. Most of the time kids don't really understand how to believably lie about serious topics until they're older teens, like 15-19 range. If a kid says they're being abused, it's usually because they truly believe it. Whether it's true or not requires investigation, which police predictably rarely do.
I had PROOF that I was abused by a family member, texts, recordings, photos, etc. and my family still didn't fucking believe me. And when they did start to believe me they were on his side because "he's been abused and has mental heath problems". Now they wonder why I ran away and won't come home.....
Dr.Phil likes to call shit like this "tough love", but like... in order for it to be tough love he needs to actually care about them first. This is just like, sending kids to the middle of nowhere for no goddamn reason
Yeah, people are acting like 'how could he have known' - but the 'Troubled Teen Industry' has been a thing since at least the 90s. A GOOGLE search of most of these places will bring up articles about teenagers being denied vital meds, marched to death on 'hikes' where they are denied rest or water, being beaten to death by staff or other residents, entire books, podcasts and documentaries from traumatised survivors of these 'troubled teen' camps. Like, If he didn't know, then he was sending kids there without even checking the places out in the most cursory way. Especially since most of them are deliberately placed in US states where you don't have to be a qualified teacher or councillor to run a place like that, they don't require inspections of facilities or background check on staff. Which means he didn't even check if the people running them had any qualifications or were like... not convicted sex offenders.
@@ChickenOfAwesome there’s tons of people on TikTok talking about their stories about going to camps like this. One told about how this one camp would make the victims hike up to 30 miles every day, and only gave them food and water if they made it to designated checkpoints. The nearest town was 60 miles away in one direction only, the rest of the area would lead into empty forests for hundreds of miles. Everyone in the nearest town was aware of the camp. This girl tried to escape, went the wrong way into the forest, and that earned her another FOUR MONTHS at this camp.
It’s so annoying that people paint this as being a situation where she wants “clout”. This is TRAUMA not DRAMA. There’s a massive difference between the two. It’s highly highly possible that she came out with this now because she finally found the strength to fight back. Everything celebrities do isn’t about clout or attention.
For real man not to mention she getting backlash, but her stepping up on a platform to all to see to speak up could give people who have also been to that ranch the courage to also speak up about it. She may have done some shady stuff in the past (and a bit racist but we're not going to talk about that rn) but what she did could have helped so many people to speak up about their experiences there
The problem with that is the parents, more often than not, are lied to about what goes on in these places. These places will tell parents not to believe their kids because they're just "acting up" and "trying to get out" of the program and they'll say anything. EVEN when the kids are telling their parents that they're being abused ect... The program will assure them their kids are safe yadda yadda It's disgusting
I don’t dislike Danielle Bregoli because I understand she was a CHILD who was held up as a spectacle for worldwide public ridicule and criticism and was failed by every adult she came into contact with. Victims don’t always have to be loveable characters.
Why doesn't anyone ever call out the parents in these situations??? Like, why was she acting out on the Dr. Phil Show in the first place? Because of her shitty parents!! I'm glad D'Angelo finally said it. Danielle's mom is completely at fault for creating this behavior in the first place, and then dumping her daughter on someone else, instead of standing up and acting like a responsible parent. If I was acting out, my parents would have been extremely concerned and would have tried to help me. They sure as hell wouldn't have put me on a damn reality show and then shipped me off to correctional camp.
@@meco7956 ruclips.net/video/ngaRstWBJvs/видео.html This is a video was made a long time ago by a counsellor condeming Dr. Phil's medical practices. If you want what an actual practicing psychologist thinks of him you should watch this. I am surprised that this didn't blow up honestly.
Adults don't see teenagers as children. I look back and realized I was taught nothing. We're expected to already know then punished for being lost and making mistakes
I 100% agree with you. It shocks me how a lot of adults can't recognize this. Teens are still kids and should be treated as such. I feel so bad for all the troubled kids like Danielle that just wanted help, but were seen as a joke instead.
@@rickcruz7620 ive been to those places and they are abusive.Most teens aren't violent so it's odd you have this stigma that they're violent and deserve to be abused for having a lack of guidance.Teens are minors and they react to their environment and lack of guidance.Its easy to send your child away because you're lazy and don't want to do the bare minimum of being a parent. Theres a family channel that sent her son to a ranch because he played a "we're going to Disneyland" prank on his sibling.When I was in there, those KIDS said they were getting mentally, physically and emotionally abused at home. You send them away to get abused them expect them to come back mentally stable and loving you? You broke the little trust they had.You teach your child to be a certain way. A lack of guidance does even worse damage.Its your job to be a mentor. Many Expect school and media to do your job.What's so hard about talking to your CHILD, making sure they can trust you when they need help,getting counseling, family therapy and putting your kids in a extracurricular activity. Same with jail. Lock them up, make them do slave labor but don't put rehabilitate. So they get released but they aren't mentally stable from the jail abuse and they cant get a job. They cant get a job so they commit crimes or sell drugs. They've told me they get caught on purpose so they have a place to sleep and eat for free because they cant get a job to make a living.
That line made me spit my coffee out!! Hilarious. Imagine merch, Dr Phils face on tshirt with 2 black eyes with "she caught me outsssside!" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
It's so weird that people say that she's lying when she has been saying how effed up that place was since day one. But people didn't seem to care, now she's standing with the movement and using her experience for good and people act like this is new information. Just because you don't like her, doesn't make her less of a human.
It's even more stupid that people think she's lying when there are multiple other victims speaking out, and the ranch has had multiple lawsuits brought against it for child abuse. The only reason Danielle even made that video is because another girl spoke up about being sexually assaulted. They're not denying it because it's Danielle, they're denying it because they're victim blamers and child abuse apologists.
@@rinrin9236 Exactly. How many victims have spoken out about shit like this and were bashed for it? They're called liars and attention seekers. It's no wonder why so many victims don't say anything because they know all it will do is bring them more harm and misery. I'm baffled by these societies that protect monsters and punish victims.
Imagine being 18 and coming out with a story about a traumatic experience and people bringing the fact that when you were 13-14 you acted like what usually people think about teenagers which is act wild and now people hold her past against her saying " i don't believe her because of how she acted on the show" as the reason not to believe her. Wtf.
It's absolute insanity. People who've never experienced abuse should feel lucky and grateful that they've never had to deal with this. Instead they bash on the victims. Unbelievable.
She was berated and attacked on the show,,, people need to stop treating traumatized children like they're evil. It's disturbing, they were a minor, and blaming them is fucked up.
People love to discredit children. And nobody even criticizes her mom for how her mom behaved like a 10 year old on the show too. But somehow they only drag her at thirteen for her behavior
On the original video, I literally saw someone say it doesn't matter how bad the treatment was because it made her a better person, like tf? I wonder if any of the people defending the ranch or Dr. Phil would be willing to send the children in their lives to one of these camps, or even go there themselves, seeing as the abuse these children went through apparently wasn't a problem.
@@rebecca1331 I feel like people who put down children's concerns are continuing a horrible cycle of abuse, sometimes without realizing it in the moment (unless they are the abuser of course)
My high school boyfriend was sent to a place like this. He escaped a few times to call me and told me what they were doing. When he finally came home a year and a half later he wrote me a letter breaking up with me. Years later I saw him handing out pamphlets for a church. I stopped to say hello but it was like talking to a zombie. Still breaks my heart honestly. I still have the letter from over a decade ago.
His parents sent him there... legally. I didn’t know where he was in the US. I talked to his parents to try to find the location. Talked to my parents. What would you have had me do as a teen in that situation to help?
its terribly sad how often child abuse & exploitation happens amoung us, most of it without a whiff of knowledge.. my high school friend also attended a boarding school/camp/ranch (program for troubled youth) in Ontario and a decade later found out what really was going on there behind the scenes.... Even Paris Hilton shared her experience at a boarding school program.. These situations happen to often & I 100% support this young girl speaking out on her experience. We need to start cutting these *kids* some slack, all while protecting & being informed.
They actually said that "it's a process of growing up" when I was bullied until I sprained my ankle cuz they push me off the stairs.. so yeah.. I agree with you
I live in the uk rn and am in the middle of reporting csa, and it is so hard. For victims of s*xual abuse/csa (inside about other crimes) they don’t allow/recommend you getting therapy for it while there is an open case because your visible trauma is evidence. And that alone puts me on the side of anyone who doesn’t want to go through that
Its sad how often genuine people with genuine concerns get turned away, whether its dealing with their health (doctors not believing people) their safety (threats and stalkers often face no retribution) or their mental health :(
@Audrey David The police in my area just assumed I was squabbling with friends, I explained that I didn't know this person but they basically started witch hunting me with their following after disagreeing with my views. (See doxxing attempts during the peak of Gamergate) Another awful experience I had with police was with a WELFARE CHECK. My ex girlfriend and I fought and I wanted us to take a break, not a break up, just a break. An hour later, there was a horde of police at my door. They were banging on the door and ringing the doorbell hundreds of times. They started screaming at me, "WHERE IS YOUR FATHER? WHERE IS HE?!" It felt like they were there to arrest him or something. It was like I was being swatted, not "checked on". I called my parents and they were shocked and confused. I started sobbing uncontrollably in fear saying "HE'S NOT HOME HE'S NOT HOME." Only then they disclosed my ex's name. I still doubt her call was well-meaning, she used to be on the streets and has a very ACAB stance as a result. She could have contacted my family (she had their numbers). I honestly don't think most cops are qualified for these things. It feels like calling them puts us at risk of being abused or whistleblown.
@@Clementine3107 david dobrick (that’s probably spelled wrong) is one. he had a really good reputation but he’s getting exposed for a lot of stuff. there’s like millions of drama channels that can explain it way better than i could so if you want details on what he did you can check those out
For real, people are like "but he's a psychologist, people in need rely on his expertise". Okay, and the fact that he's a psychologist means he should know better than to exploit people's mental health issues for tv ratings
tbh I don't understand why people go on tv & air their dirty laundry for millions to see in the first place, like if anything ur making matters worse, because now you're being judged- The dr.phill show in general should just be gone
@@Raven-bz8kl It should absolutely not exist but truth is that people don't have the resources to seek help if needed and they don't even know where to start asking for help, any help. Shows like this exploit the weak health system for ratings
Yeah, I was scared to watch this video because I thought it was going to be different but I finally did. When I watched Bhad Bhabies video I broke down and cried. I was at Eagel Ranch Academy for 11 months and 2 days, a similar place in Southern Utah. I'm so happy this is being talked about now. Fuck Dr. Phil
I'm so sorry this occurred for you 😔 how is it possible that teens get sent unethically against their will. But it does. Parents need to be loving. Adults need to care. But it's not always the case. I hope Phil gets slammed and pays up fully and I believe God will take care of this.
Paris Hilton's documentary included a great deal of her almost exact experience being sent to a ranch as a teenager. Paris was also kidnapped from her bed in the middle of the night.
I dont believe any of these parents who "truly thought" they were helping their kids, how is having strangers steal your child out of their bed without them having any idea what's happening not a huge red flag?!
I immediately thought about Paris Hilton when watching this video. She described the same thing, having no way to capture or record the abuse, having all your contact to the outside world monitored, already being labeled a “problem child” so your word is automatically doubted. It really prime hunting ground for child predators. Something needs to be done about this, places like this shouldn’t exist in 2021.
There is a horrifying number of these “rehabilitation” programs that people just... send their children to in America. And it’s all technically legal, because America is terrible. I’ve never heard a story about one of these facilities that wasn’t appalling. Good on her for speaking up about this and good on you for elevating it.
Yeah, hopefully D'Angelo talking about it will reduce the number of commentary youtubers making reaction videos to Dr. Phil, he's always been gross and this is just a new level
In the UK we had a show called Brat Camp where they sent ill behaved British teenagers off to some of these camps and it was played for laughs and went on for multiple seasons
Danielle actually talked about her sexual abuse as a child on a live and people where laughing at her on that live for being loud and upset and her mom kept trying to get her off
“It’s not his fault all he did was recommend a program”. No, it’s entirely his fault. Dr. Phil makes money every time he sends someone to one of these places or even mentions it on the show. There’s plenty of evidence that show this model of treatment doesn’t work but these kids are a paycheck to him
“It’s not his fault all he did was recommend a program” - OK, then it's the parents or legal guardians' fault because why in the Hell would ANYONE allow a supposed "Psychologist" to ship their kid off to some random place without researching it themselves and practicing caution? This is such a bogus counterargument for anyone to waste their time on - Dr. Phil's a grown-ass adult. He's the only person that's constantly recommending & pushing the Ranch onto troubled kids, not anyone else that walks on his stage. And once the parents sign that contract, Dr. Phil's 1000% responsible for what happens to each and every kid that he sends off. He's never recommended it - he's pushed & insisted that the program is THE fix-up for troubled kids.
Agreed. But I think you also need to understand that these type of shows are not run by just one person that you see on TV. There's a huge number of people behind the scenes who are running the show and are bassically supporting all of this.
Yeah and Danielle Bregoli said there were many lawsuits on that place before he recommended her. Which means he KNEW the place was shady and sent her anyways, or he didn’t do his research on the place before sending her. Either one is a careless decision on his end
He is in a position of power. Not only with his position as a 'professional', someone a number people trust to know what they're doing, but also as they are being broadcast. This is all public. You can't object because then you're the bull-headed bad guy. He has a duty of care amplified by the fact that this is happening publically. He is responsible. Both him and his team on the show are negligent to say the least. Disgusting.
I’m sorry but a psychologist that “treats” patients by ridiculing them on TV does not deserve to be called a psychologist. No matter how nice he seems, he’s a TV personality doing what he does for fame, acclaim and money disguised as charity and “helping”. Not a healthcare worker who truly cares about the well-being of their patients otherwise he wouldn’t be involved in a show like that. Like ffs literal children go on his show and the format is there for the purpose of embarrassing them in front of a live audience when they could actually have underlying issues that should be dealt with in private. Acting and overdramatisation or not, the fact that parents even let their children take part in a show like that is sad. If they were faking the issues in the first place they probably actually have issues now from what they have to go through in the aftermath of the show. - from a psychologist-to-be
yes! exactly this. dr phil's show never really felt like he was actually trying to help people, but rather just embarrass them and set them up for wide ridicule /:
Yep. It's painful to watch. Kids and addicts shouldn't be ridiculed in front of an audience for profit or entertainment. And he always prods them as if trying to pull out their worst issues while they're on display like a freak show. To hell with Dr. Phil.
yeah and then their embarrassment and family issues are immortalised forever on the internet because of it. it's messed up, there should be laws against this. i think there are way stricter ofcom rules in the uk now about this, i'm trying to even think about seeing a kid without a blurred face in reality tv here in the past 10 years and can't think of anything. i could be wrong though, but i think it's stricter now. there should just be laws in general against embarrassing even adults who are obviously being exploited because they are at their lowest mentally/financially, it's not right.
he literally just exploits people and makes them look like an inferior joke so his audience can forget about all their own problems, mistakes, and behaviors. do you remember when he victim blamed a girl who was manipulated by a grown married man at 17? they victimized the wife the whole time bc she was jealous, when her husband was literally an ephebophilic predator. and the time a girl with delusions had all her trauma written out on the board like it was nothing, then was aggressively told to get off stage because the audience was laughing at her, so she got embarrassed and addressed it, then he said she just wanted attention. i just wonder how they’re all doing nowadays. because being exploited, especially during a very low point, could be incredibly damaging
I went to 5 private alternative high schools. I’m 39 years old. I’m telling you, what happened to Danielle was the absolute truth, and she’s probably keeping silent about other stuff. No one believes “troubled” teens. It’s always their/our fault, and regardless of what happened, you probably provoked it.
My school had a kind-of term long "survivor" program, where we got sent to a farm and had to live a very strict life. I was already struggling with PTSD from family abuse and it just broke me. After they sent me home (early) I endured another 12 mth minimum process of intense school bullying. It destroyed my educational options completely. Even my (rather bewildered) parents described what the school subsequently subjected me to as a "witch-hunt". These expensive-but-tough school programs benefit no-one who isn't a winner. It's more like Lord of The Flies. Send your kids to a relatively normal school. If they have any awareness of what someone like me went through, they will thank you for it.
I hate programs like this. I don’t know how they’re still legal. Every time I hear about one of these youth “reformation” camps, it’s always about how they abuse kids.
Fun fact! The United States of America is the only country in the world that has refused to ratify the United Nations’ Convention on the Rights of the Child! Gee, I wonder why that is? ...That wasn’t a very fun fact at all.
My boyfriend was sent to a place like this when he was a teenager. He has told me stories of the physical and mental abuse he faced. It’s horrific. He said the girls in the program experienced much worse than the boys. He is 30 now and he will forever be changed by this experience.
What pisses me off is that she’s still technically a child and her haters are going in on her right now about this as attention grabbing!!! Like this is why our youth is fucked up! Adults not acting like adults and protecting our youth!
The thing that's always puzzled me: if a child is 'acting out for attention', doesn't mean that they... need attention? People--especially kids--NEED attention. We are social critters. If someone is hurting themselves physically or in other ways (because many kinds of acting out are essentially an elaborate form of self-harm) 'for attention', then give them more attention! Give them support! It's not that complicated.
@@Hearthburn1 exactly. Teach these kids how to get attention in healthy ways. It makes no sense to take a kid that needs attention and tell them they can't have it because their methods were "bad". I'm not saying to reward negative behavior, but to not give them other skills seems cruel.
I saw someone say that they didn't care what she had to say because "Dr.Phil made her famous". She was 13! She shouldn't have gotten famous (especially for being a misbehaved child) in the first place.
“Troubled teen” industry’s are a real thing that effects a lot of people. Danielle is just the one who got picked to be on dr. Phil. She was right when she went back on the show the second time bc I would argue she popularized dr. Phil to a whole new level. So predatory when you think abt it bc it drew in a younger audience to the show and then all of a sudden every problematic teen was trying to get on the show to be the next meme girl. Dr. Phil also played a pretty big role in placing Britney Spears in a conservatorship but that’s a whole different topic.
I was so close to being institutionalized in one of these things. My mom had two people come kidnap me at 4am, drag me across statelines (because these types of programs are illegal in the state that i live in, HUGE redflag) drove me 8 hours to this place called Calo (basically like the ranch but instead of horses they had dogs) in the middle of buttfuck nowhere Missouri. I was horrified shaking and crying, the whole car trip they wouldn't let me close the door to use the bathrooms, took all my belongings, didn't let me eat for tge whole 8 hours it took to get there, treated reated me like a criminal. When i finally got there it was filthy and depressing. Immediately interrogated me and asked me all sorts of weird prying questions that i wasnt comfortable awnsering but would gaslight me by telling me that i was "trying to hide something" when i didnt awnser. The whole premise of these things are to trap kids there as long as possible to make money, you're never "rehabilitated" untill they say so much like asylums in the 20th century, they also keep kids tgere after they turn 18 essentially holding legal adults hostage. I was only there for less then a day and the things i saw there were horrific. Two grown men dragging a crying girl down the hallway to be put in isolation, animal abuse of the dogs that were supposed to be therapeutic for the kids, multiple fights breaking out either between the kids or the staff, disgusting living conditions and cramped cabins, all of it was terrible. The only way i managed to escape being there was so beg and sob for my mom to please rethink this when she came down a few hours later to drop off my stuff. I will never forgive her for what she put me through but atleast i didnt have to stay, i can't imagine what the poor kids who were imprisoned there for long periods of tine must feel like, 14 hours was traumatic as is. I truly hope Danielle and the other teens get justice
@@RestorativeRenaissance thank you for taking the time to listen to my story, i am incredibly fortunate to have somehow convinced my mom not to leave me there but i know most kids aren't that lucky, i just really hope these places get shut down and the abuse that's suffered by so many teens gets shed to light because no child deserves to live like that for even 30 minutes.
Glad to see someone else supporting her. I covered this situation and the comments were FLOODED with hate towards her. I get that her past is not that great. But what happened to her is unacceptable. And NO ONE should be dumping on her for sharing her story.
Too many adults are far too invested in the social media antics of a child and it’s sad. I don’t care for her, but what she described is the systematic abuse of our most vulnerable children. And she was one of them. Does that absolve her of her past behavior? No, but any reasonable person should realize that her story and some of her wild behaviors are separate matters and should be treated as such. I feel for her and those kids and respect her for using her platform for good because she did not have to.
"Her past is not that great" except her present is also "not that great". She's just not good. But I can understand why people would back her up in this situation bcuz she's right
Not only did she share her story, but she actually did so with class. She was well spoken, her message was calm but empathetic, she was firm without being aggressive. It was absolutely mature and done with conviction. I’ve never really had good or bad feelings about her before, but I absolutely applaud her on this.
This is exactly like the Boarding School incidents many other Women (including Paris Hilton) had to go through, where they get basically kidnapped in the middle of the night to be taken there. Watch Hilton‘s documentary, she covered it pretty well. It’s horrible how in this day and age shit like that exists LEGALLY
also, there's a really good webcomic at elan.school where a man who went to one of these abusive troubled teen camps/boarding schools and the stuff he went through is INSANE. it is definitely worth a read, I've been on his email list for a while now.
Turnabout Ranch and other “send your bad kids to this remote location so we can [REDACTED] the bad out of them” type dealies are SCARY and should be investigated. Not only do they traumatize kids with abuse and kidnapping but they rarely have ACTUAL THERAPISTS AND PROVEN THERAPIES there. Yikes!
If they do have actual therapy the programs will be twisted in a way that breaks you down into a pit of shame and guilt + molds you into submission, it fuckin sucks man
I'm kind of surprised but really impressed about how maturely she spoke about this. It took me until my mid 30s to be able to talk about things like this at all and not even nearly as clear and candidly like this. I hate that this happened to her. I hate that "problem kids" are treated like this. How is further traumatising a kid going to improve their mental health or behaviour....
it's not supposed to improve it sadly, it's supposed to shut them up and make them stop """acting out""". people who send there kids here are neglectful and abusive parents. they don't care about their kids :/
I have a lot of sympathy for Danielle after this. She was abused and traumatised, then not given any real help. Yeah she might have done some crappy things, but today is her 18th birthday. She did that as a child, and everyone has done shitty things as a teenager. She deserves a lot of credit for speaking up when she's so young, about a topic that's so difficult.
Exactly. Talking about problematic things people do is okay, but adults unloading righteous ire on a literal child is both pathetic and cruel. Cyberbullying doesn't teach anybody anything, except to hate themselves or to be set further in their problematic ways. No kid should ever be subjected to the abuse she's opened up about and I feel so bad for her.
ukw , i think she deserves this one last and new chance to start again . she is 18 now , hopefully she clears up all the previous crappy things she has done and just focuses on her career.
It just fucks me up so bad that people are sexualizing her and belittling her ever since she was a child. Not liking her is one thing, but treating her like she's an adult just bc she do stupid things is just... Idk, it doesn't sit right with me. It reminds me how the whole internet hated on Lil Tay, a 9 yr old, just bc it was fun to.
@@Peayou... AT MOST crimes like this have a 3% false accusation rate, so don't throw out terms like "plenty" when it's not the case. Claiming things like that makes it harder for victims to come forward.
The moment she started describing the transporters, I had flashbacks. I wasn't told where I was going and when I got there, I had to strip down to my underwear for a search. It was in the middle of nowhere. They told my family I was going to get therapy because I was a high risk teen, but I never got therapy at all. These "schools"/facilities/camps/programs are really terrible. The one I went to was shut down after I left and turns out staff were having relationships with the kids there. None of the staff were trained to watch over us, by the way. There is still more places like this if you look into WASP. I feel so sorry for her and I hope she gets her apology. I never got mine from my family. edit: Thank you to everyone for the support and kind words. Honestly I was most upset at my family because I thought I was going to a mental hospital to get help. I learned about 30 minutes into the drive that this wasn't the case. I felt betrayed and uncared for when it came to light that they only sent me to finish highschool. None of the girls and staff understood why I was there once I told them my story. I stayed quiet the whole time I was there but I saw many things. I used all my time to finish school as soon as possible so I could go home. Once I did, I shut my family out from ever knowing of my mental health ever again. I feel most sorry to the girls and boys who are put into these places without a way to speak up. Our weekly emails to our parents were monitored and screened throughly so no one could say anything. There's many more places worse than where I was at all over the USA and few opened outside of the USA. I was lucky not to have anything happen to me, but knowing it did happen to the girls who were with me, before and after, left me feeling disgust and guilt. I still get nightmares from the confinement so much I could easily draw every single room down to the finest detail. I am doing much better now despite all of this. Thank you so much again and thank you to D'Angelo for making a video touching on this subject.
Also a lot of these places were "reformed" into helping youth programs, specifically targeted at troubled teenagers who needed help. The one I went to was 2,000 USD a month and they took in ages as young as 13. Several of the girls I talked to were there because their parents sent them as a scare tactic and the first month was free. Another girl was there because her mom was abusive and she had been forced to live in multiple programs all her life until she was forced to leave at 18. The handcuff thing is true, as per told from another girl I became "friends" with. It was her second time there and the transporters took her during the day.
@@takuyamoshimoshi Oh. My. God. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm so sorry these places even exist. This shouldn't happen to ANYONE! But I am mostly sorry that you never even got a simple sorry.
Yeah he seems to be quite problematic to a lot of people. I think he's out of touch tbh. And doubt this is the last we hear of messed up stuff he's involved in.
I never knew that “The Ranch” was actually a ranch. I thought it was an normal mental illness in-patient program where they give you therapy, and they keep you in to stop you from hurting yourself or others.
Please look up these send away camps because this is scarily common. They disguise child abuse as “tough love”, and the stories I have heard from these “rehabilitation” programs for troubled teens are always disturbing.They have successfully used ads and propaganda to run unchecked and unregulated. Rarely do they actually help kids and usually, further traumatize children
coming from someone who went to one of these centers, this ISNT a joke. and i’m honestly glad she spoke up about these things. if you have any questions about places like these, and you want to hear it from a source who experienced it first hand, i’m more than willing to discuss
@@yellowshoeee I mean it depends on the facility. The one I went to, everyone sort of bonded over the fact that we were all ripped out of our homes, but there were a lot of fights, sometimes physical, usually resulting in what they would call "a restraint" which is pretty much just legal child abuse that your parents sign off on before you get there
@@rai1879 If you watch her documentary, she goes into what happened to her. But basically, it was the same as Danielle- kidnapped in the middle of the night, abuse, lack of food, solitary confinement, etc. Paris has/had nightmares about being kidnapped for years because of how they dragged her off.
She's not lying, everything she says is consistent, she didn't pause to try to come up with stories in her experience. Lying a stressful thing. But she talked about the experiences in a straightforward manner, like she's saying it like it is. This is good of her, supporting a fellow victim.
even if she stopped to say something, why would anyone’s first thought be “oh she’s lying”..?? these things are not to be lied about and NOBODY should be questioned when sharing their story.
The allegations are serious enough for them to at least be looked into if posible. If they are fake they are fake but its still pretty serious shit and should warrant a search
A place with child labor and poor living conditions posing as a rehab center... with a kid stealing a car in a failed attempt to escape. They really sent them to Camp Green Lake.
"No one ever likes you more because you open up about abuse." This. When I came out about being a victim, I lost my entire support network. Almost every single friend I had before that abandoned me in favour of my abuser- the only one who didn't didn't even know him. Even my parents refused to support me and told me a glorified "man up." I went through the most traumatic period of my life, one where I was the closest to ending it all. So whenever somebody accuses a person of faking their story for "clout," especially when they are clearly struggling so hard, I take it very, very personally.
Holes didn't come from nowhere, these places have existed in the US for a long time, and they're completely horrifying (and frequently are/are run by cults)
I sincerely hope this story brings a lot more attention to the topic. Danielle is a lot higher profile than most of the people who have spoken out about this.
if a partial inpatient or intensive outpatient program is available, and the child isn't at a very high risk of seriously injuring themselves or others, use it. being able to take breaks its essential to mental health treatment.
As someone who has gone to a similar program i am glad she’s speaking up. Some really messed up things go on but nobody listens to the kids because we are all just labeled as mentally ill.
Time to send Phil to the ranch. And the counselors will be all the girls he sent there to be abused. Finally someone in one of those places would actually learn some valuable skills, surely
Idk Felix is a really caring and compassionate person I don’t think he gives a fuck about being involved in drama but he does care that his audience follow his positive example as a role model and a decent human being and surely when he learns about this he will address it in some way while showing solidarity with the victims. Or at least I genuinely hope so for his sake.
@@esmeraldaoga Who did Pewdiepie send to the ranch lol? All he did was watch a show and assume that a TV network wouldn't work with an abusive program. How were any of us supposed to know what went on behind the scenes?
Yea I watched the youtubers who like made that meme before all this information came out and they sat down and watched Daniele (I legit can't spell her name im sorry) video and kept apologizing about the meme and saying they fully support her.
Most child victims of trauma act out, her behavior prior to being on Dr Phil was probably due to trauma. This ranch then caused further trauma. I actually feel so bad for her.
I watched the entire video and I have a lot of respect for her. I was waiting for it to turn into a joke but it didn’t..surprisingly. She should ask for more than an apology but idk. Actions need to be done.
Let's be real tho, hes not even gonna give her the apology. Have you seen that man? You cant convince him hes wrong because he knows hes not in it to help people, just cash in on yelling and shaming people.
She honestly has the power to help many people. In this situation with the camp, and in her life in general cause she had that reputation as the bad girl, if she showed the world you can rise about your childhood and what people say about you she could inspire millions. We gotta pray for this girl man. Any celebrity who speaks out about these things could be in danger.
'It's not his fault, he just recommended the place' BS. He is in a position of power. Not only with his position as a 'professional', someone a number people trust to know what they're doing, but also as they are being broadcast. This is all public. You can't object because then you're the bull-headed bad guy. He has a duty of care amplified by the fact that this is happening publically. He is responsible. Both him and his team on the show are negligent to say the least. Disgusting.
Most facilities claiming to “help” “troubled teens” is full of abuse and don’t care for children under their care. Paris Hilton made a documentary about being in this system and how EVERY teen there went through the most heartbreaking, horrible things and were abused in one way or another.
Can confirm. I’ve been in a plethora of these places while in foster care and nobody ever believed us. Almost two years ago the last place I went to finally got shut down after a girl spoke up about the sex trafficking and sexual abuse that was happening there. Other girls spoke up about it and they found evidence because the abuse was recorded. What’s sick is the staff were trusted by us kids! Us former kids were so damn hurt because the 3 staff members involve were favorites. We fully trusted them and they knew it. They took advantage. I look back on the times I spent with them and shutter because that could of been me, or any of us. Most of us already have a history of abuse, especially sexual. We were easy targets.
Feel like people who say stuff like “why didn’t you do this or do that” to someone they come out about something really invalidates their whole experience. like wtf are they even trying to say like are they trying to insinuate that they would’ve handled their traumatic experience better than them or that they think everything? Like damn bro sorry ig???? Like comments like those don’t help and are low key victim shaming.
Yeah. The nature of abuse is that you're made to feel guilty and like it's all your fault. She essentially had the whole world telling her to go to hell, of course she's not going to turn around and try to make a case for herself right away.
See as a survivor of abuse i went through the whole period of "what if i had just done this, it probably wouldn't have been so bad if i had done that instead" of blaming myself for my abuse. People go through that already without the whole world telling you too. I can imagine what that's doing to her rn With 100% certainty: There is no way to change your abuse. You can do what you need to in the moment to spare yourself from worse trauma but you're NEVER to blame for how someone else is treating you.
I had that done to me.. by the police. I was filing a report and this fucking cop started asking me questions like 'well, why did you give hime the money'. Like dude, i was panicking and feared for my own safety while this dude that's clearly on drugs yelled at me for money... And guess what. After investigating they found no criminal wrongdoing on his part. He wasn't charged and i never got my money back. Almost 900 euros and I'm a student...
@@CocoaPuffss That is so messed up, I'm so sorry. I feel like anyone would have done the same thing as you, why risk making a clearly unstable person angry?
When I was 13 I was in a situation where I was constantly abused by every adult in my isolated life and I was also portrayed as being "bad" so no one believed me. I feel for her.
Same, my mum neglected me and verbally abused me but whenever I went to someone about it I was made out to be bratty teenager. If you took one look at the house I grew up in it's so obvious we/I was being neglected. It's so frustrating to look back on. When I saw my nieces and nephews going through the same thing people fell out with me because I called it out, now the mother of my niblings has revealed herself to be a truly horrible woman and no one likes her anymore. Still haven't got my apology tho.
How can you respect a young adult who at will disrespect or hurt anyone because they just want to? All those words of her parents and psychologists were nothing to her and suddenly she will act as a victim. How about her victims? She hasn't paid for her sins.
@@theab3957 If I'm recalling correctly, take it, I'm not American, the CIA even uses sleep deprivation. As an insomniac, someone who has to take drugs to actually go to bed because if not I'll be up for five days and the things I've seen are not fun because I was hallucinating, why would do that to a child? A literal child, who's brain is not yet developed. It's torture. Pure torture.
This reminds me of the Paris Hilton documentary where she talks about the boarding schools. Everyone believed her about that, so I don't see why they can't believe Danielle about this. If those boarding schools exist, then OF COURSE it's possible these ranches exist.
@@katc2040 they often exist either in states that don't give a shit about child welfare, like Utah, or outside the US, where the anti abuse laws either don't exist or can be bypassed easily
@@katc2040 they can easily just reopen with new staff and a new name in a new place, it's pretty easy for them to keep operating when they're connected to governmental departments that want these places to stay in operation: Basically the NIDA (National Inst on Drug Abuse) drives most of the national grants and policies around drug abuse and prevention, and DFAF (Drug Free America Foundation, the rebranding of Straight Inc - one of the original "troubled teen" facilities) drives a lot of what NIDA thinks through it's political control and connections, and that has repercussions. And then SAMHSA (the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, which is a branch of the US Department of Health and Human Services) is providing DFAF with money to run all their referrals into TTI (troubled teen industry) programs. It's more complicated than just making the facilities illegal, from a political standpoint, though of course the abuse should stop.
I'm just really glad that people on RUclips were way more supportive than on tiktok I've seen so many people say that she's lying, invalidate her experience because she got a attention because of it or they were just overall toxic. I'm glad she spoke out and brought attention to the things that have happened to her and others.
There's even a video by iilluminaughtii where she goes over Dr Phil's history and damn that dude is shady as fuck. I watched a few videos of his and quickly moved on, felt too much like a stunt to me than anything based on actual research etc. But still shocked me when I learned about the stuff..
i feel for her so hard when she was talking about that guy killing a staff member. my dad is in a halfway house after losing everything due to a traumatic brain injury and in this housing he is put with a lot of bad people. a guy who lives in the housing killed a staff member and went on a complete rampage killed a woman who worked there stabbing her over 20 times and my dad is so helpless he has night terrors now because of it but can’t get out. right now i’m trying to get him into different housing but he lives 3 hours away from where i’m at and i’m only 20 years old working two jobs as a care giver trying to move up there and get him the help he needs. this is so sad i hope she is okay.
Good luck, I experienced the same thing with my mom when I was your age. You are strong and amazing. I hope you are able to get your father out of there
And a mostly unregulated industry at that. An industry that benefits from minors not actually being treated for their mental illnesses so they can continue to make money off of “helping” them.
ive been to the same one several times and while i was really lucky there was no abuse at all (it was an aversion to violence program) i can confirm that there were literally no cameras or any kind of surveillance which feels Incredibly concerning when a bunch of 'unruly' teenagers are living together for a period of time with only a handful of adults out in the middle of nowhere
Can confirm, I went to one of these in-patient homes and my roommate was there from Dr. Phil. The staff had zero credentials, they’re all just college students, and we only saw our therapists once a week for 30 mins (only to discuss medications, nothing else). I told one of the staff that my suicidal thoughts were getting worse, and she said it was fine because I was too much of a coward to actually try anything. I got discharged when a pair of social workers had to take me to an actual psych ward for trying to hang myself. These places are hell holes that rich white parents send their kids to for “alternative care”. Fidget toys and slime didn’t help my depression, and while the horses were one of the bright moments, they didn’t help either. It was just a place my parents dropped me off at so they wouldn’t have to deal with me. (For reference, I was 14 during this. I’m 20 now, and doing a lot better.)
@@sirvalhart7464 one of the girls I was living with had extreme intrusive thoughts, to the point that she had tried to kill people, and their solution was to have her blow bubbles. BUBBLES.
They need to be improoved. By a LOT. The need for theraputic centers is not going anywhere, so we need theraputic centers that are good and ethical and not bring on extra trauma.
@@user-yp7uq8it3z If I remember correctly, Utah has fewer rights protecting children and fewer restrictions on these types of facilities. Basically if you send your kid to one of these places your signing away their free will and consent. *Not all residential/rehab progams are bad, just really do your research on these places, please!
@@sappysaphic420 yup I went to one in Utah as well, a different one that while I have complicated feelings abt it it’s not on this level. it is basically bc you don’t have any rights as a minor in Utah lol
seeing her talk about it really made me tear up as another victim of a similar program. literal abduction was the least of the problems and even that still haunts me.
I live in Utah and in my mental hospital they used to threaten us with turnabout ranch if we misbehaved. It's notorious in the buisness here for being where you send kids you want to punish. It's not about reform, it's about punishment. Turnabout ranch and other similar programs are just the modern interpretation of the awful insane asylums in the 40s. I'm really proud of her for speaking out about this.
@@user-rt8xr6yf2x I liked him genuinely till I got into psychology and realized alot of his shit was probably traumatizing the people he worked with on TV.
Yeah, the show is ok most of the time, but the episodes that are like the one with Danielle, where Dr Phil is validating the jeering and booing from the audience are terrible. I don't know what their intentions are beyond making entertainment out of mental health topics(if any), but the moral compass they're applying is very jittery.
@@KattReen Theres also the episode where a girls abusive mother was brought on despite the girl asking them not to bring her on and being under the assumption they wouldn't do that and then embarrassing her and traumatizing her infront of a bunch of people.
This camp sounds like a conversion camp or a group home for kids in the 50s or 60s. Also, it’s insane that Danielle Brigoli is getting hate for standing with a survivor of abuse and is sharing her story.
If I remember correctly everyone started to come out about this after Paris Hilton documentary mention on how her parents send her to the ranch thing, she literally still have the fear because she thought she was being kidnapped, she's currently trying to have these places closed down
It's not just Danielle Bergholi though - hundreds of survivors of the horrifying "troubled teen industry" are starting to be heard. I see you, survivor.
Dr Phil is the worst psychologist I have ever layed eyes upon. Even when I was a kid I always felt the stuff that happened on his show was a joke or was for entertainment.
Me too! I saw it already as a child. I hope this year is when he is cancelled. The youth of today is so smart and sees these things Im proud of the young ppl of today! #Cancel"dr"PhilNow
Personally i’m not a huge fan of Danielle but it was so brave of her to come out about this issue. And as you said she is using her platform correctly to inform other’s about this.
Ok I’m so proud of her growth. She’s a young person who received a lot of public attention at a very young age and she’s growing into a person who is vocal and responsible with her platform and using her increased visibility for good, important things she cares about. Teen girls don’t get enough credit.
Same here, I really hope to see her grow as a person in the next few years. I think if she gets away from her mum we'll all see her become much more mature person
I'm 37 and so always saw Danielle as the CHILD she was. I couldn't believe how many grown people were bullying a child. I just wanted to take her home and give her a loving family and straighten her out. She is sounding so much more mature now and I'm glad to see it.
I'm glad there's adults that can actually see through her online persona and recognize that she was a child when everything happened. You're a good person.
So here's where I'm at personally: I haven't looked into Danielle's public history or internet timeline all that much, but if I remember correctly her behavior got so much worse after she went to that ranch. Of course as a human being she is responsible for her own actions, but to me it seems (though I could very much be wrong) that she left that ranch desperate for people to pay attention to her - something super common in people that are denied proper care, support, and attention (either by unfortunate circumstance or malice) and cared a lot more about having control over her own life and a lot less if she burned her world down in the process. That's not the behavior of someone who has learned not to "misbehave," or someone who has learned healthy behaviors. Both of those are things she should have learned at the ranch if the ranch were a healthy and productive place, but it doesn't seem to be.
Yeah, I mean it's a basic human need to have people pay attention to you and care for you, even more so when you're a child and still developing. I think her behavior makes a lot of "sense" in terms of her psychological needs that were not being met and the additional traumas that she went through. Obviously trauma doesn't excuse personal responsibility, but in this case she was a child and all the adults involved really messed up and they should definitely be held accountable - and the child (and now adult) victims of the troubled teen industry 1000% deserve trust, support, and validation now that there is a movement for them to come forward about the abuses they've gone through.
@@WitchOracle I'll be honest, when people write off attention-seeking and self-centered behavior as someone being selfish and rude and awful I get a bit frustrated. I've seen too many people act self-centered because they were the only people they could rely on to care for themselves, so they focused on themselves. I've seen too many people (myself included) who are engage in some form of attention-seeking in an either small or large way because the attention they needed was denied to them. Lucky for me I tend to look for attention in zmall ways: whenever I in a conversation and I'm saying or explaining something, I'll often repeatedly ask, "Does that make sense?" because then they have to respond and show they're listening to me. My peers often ignored what I was saying at school (I think it was unintentional, because I was shy and had a very soft voice), but even something that isn't that big has affected how I speak to other people for the rest of my life. As you said, her behavior makes a lot of "sense" when you look at what she's gone through.
@@cassied.6731 I absolutely relate! I tend to feel like the "needy" person in relationships (not just romantically) and I've come to see it as directly related to how secure I feel in those relationships and a sign that I'm not getting something that I actually do *need...* Being able to accept that about myself has really helped me to communicate with my loved ones about *what* I need and *when* I need it and it has made a world of difference for me. It turns out lots of people want to be able to give you what you need as long as they know what that is! Unfortunately, there are still always those relationships where someone won't be able to give you what you need for that emotional security, and I think that absolutely contributed to the atmosphere that Danielle was growing up in :/ ETA: like... I can't for the life of me imagine handling a "problem child" the way her mom did... Sure, I'd look into real therapy and addressing her needs and such with qualified professionals, but I would never throw my child into a predatory media spotlight??? It just feels like all kinds of obvious negative reinforcement
i agree but i personally dont think you blame a child for things like that, anyone whos under that much abuse especially as a child would act like that
I never thought I would see the day where I said I was proud of Bhad Bhabie....but dammit, I am PROUD of her for speaking up and using her platform to speak out for these kids. I hope that she DOES get that apology from Dr. Phil...and if not??? Give him hell.
@@steldalcien8699 it’s because they’re not _supposed_ to operate that way, and it’s often very hard to prove when they do. When they do end up shutting down some of these places due to misconduct, they tend to just reopen under a different name, and then the cycle repeats itself. The reason they have been able to gain support in the first place is because of their outcome data (which tends to be pretty sparse and kind of questionable much of the time). What’s crazy to me is that they are not all required to record or report outcome data. I often see them just showing old data that has been released by other, unaffiliated, programs/facilities.
1. I do not like Danielle 2. Danielle should be believed 3. Action needs to be taken to investigate this camp These 3 things are not mutually exclusive
As someone with autism who isn't necessariliy the most likable, especially since I have difficulty socializing or making friends, "normal" humans and their standards for who is allowed to be treated with basic civility terrifies me to no end.
Honestly I’m really happy she spoke up!! She’s not the greatest person, but this is something seriously important and it’s good that she stood up for herself!
“It wasn’t his fault because all he did was recommend a camp he and the show had a deal w/“ he and the show had a deal with them. He recommended this to them. He forced them to go here basically. He made her mother literally think she had no other choice and ofc after a bunch of abuse and shit a 13 year old kid is gonna not talk about it because she was probably scared of getting sent back.
Well i haven't heard this "blow up" in the mainstream yet, if ever. Idk if any of this is true or just things being turned around because there are places like that all over the country and they are put in to try to 'straighen' kids up. Bootcamps, those tv shows like Scare Straight and etc. Those places are not put together to be nice to the kiddies, but of course not go to the other extreme so it just needs to be investigated and wait and see what really comes out of this. It is popular now-a-days to come out and accuse, accuse and most of the accusations end up how?
This is the thing! Places like that rely on the fact that those kids have been in trouble and that even if they spoke up they are unlikely to be believed. Add that to the fact that they have probably already suffered abuse and are vulnerable
@@jodiekelly1355 That is true too so that is why it has to be deeply looked into to make sure it is either the way you are saying or just disgruntled disturbed teens trying to mess the place up. We'll see what comes out either way, i guess.
That’s scary. She was just a kid when it all went down. As annoying as she is or as much as you hate her, she was a child and her life was being controlled by the adults around her
Exactly. She was a 13 year old girl acting out. Her mother puts her on national t.v to be made a mockery of and gets shipped of to that awful place because her mother was sold a lie by Dr. Phil. I feel bad for all the trouble teens who have been dragged on that show.
These sort of camps came up in the Paris Hilton documentary too. The whole message of her documentary was that the camps are extremely traumatic and don’t solve anything. I’m glad this is getting attention because I had no idea that they were a thing. The kidnapping you in the middle of the night, I can’t even imagine how traumatized they must be. We gotta end these camps.
I didn't have time to include this in the video, but during that stream we briefly discussed Dr Phil's history as well and like... why are famous doctors all so shady?
Anyway, next stream should be even more fun B^) twitch.tv/dangelno
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She was a minor. Even if you think she’s unreliable, abuse against a kid needs to be investigated.
Abuse in general should always be investigated.
I couldn’t agree more
Are we really, in 2021, not comprehending why someone who has been in a violent or abusive situation wouldn't want to talk to the cops about it? Where have you all been hiding out in this post-MeToo, current-BLM "defund the police, abolish ICE" world?
@@SeymourDisapproves It's not as easy as one would think it is to open up about the traumatic experiences they've gone through in their lives for a multitude of reasons, the main one being that they think that no one would believe them or help them if they did open up about their issues and believe me you when I say that this has been the case for many people, but this should've been an obvious answer to your question. Also, after everything that went on last year and now with poc getting killed by the police left and right (although, that's nothing new and has been going on for far too long), who would really feel safe reporting their issues to the police, apart from them thinking that they still wouldn't be safe if they went to to the police regardless?
@@fearnotmyinsomniaonce4579 I think they were agreeing with you there.
When he said something like, "Just because someone has a terrible personality, doesn't mean they don't deserve justice for being sexually assaulted." YES bruh. A bajillion times yes. It frustrates me so much when people don't get the help they need just because everyone has labeled them evil and undeserving.
And even if you don't like the victim, would you not want a potential predator to face justice? These people are so gross.
And most of the times, the bad behaviour from a victim is a direct result of being sexually assaulted or treated bad in any way when they were kids and still developing.
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it's important to point out that she's not demanding money nor any kind of spotlight, she just wants an apology, which is the least he could've done after sending kids to that prison
@blv girl pls shut up
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I think that place is worse than a prison in prison you get a bed and food.
@@thibomeurkens2296 and you’re allowed to sleep
@@thibomeurkens2296 indeed! prisons can be less dehumanizing than that stupid farm 😓
does anyone also remember when he victim blamed a girl who was groomed by a grown man at 17 to live with him and his wife? they were pitying the wife for being jealous when her husband is literally a predator. And that time a girl with delusions cane onto the show, he wrote all her trauma on the whiteboard, and told her to get off his stage bc she “wanted attention.” all she did was get embarrassed when the audience was laughing at her. i wonder if they’ve gone to the camp too.
i don't remember because im not a regular watcher, but i *do* remember him harassing someone with DID (a CHILDHOOD TRAUMA disorder with memory gaps btw!!) on stage because she switched to a younger part and he was like "you do remember!! you do!! stop lying"
Yep, I remember that.
I've never seen his show but big joel made a video about him a while back and i can't believe a "psychologist" could act so ignorant of... well, psychology.
@@juliamaria3807 Big Joel's vids on him are great.
he also told a trans woman to just "be better to her family" even though her family were being blatantly transphobic to her, and her brother literally misgendered and deadnamed her on the show, to her face
People want to dismiss Danielle’s account but what about the other girl that was assaulted? It’s like they completely forgot the only reason she’s speaking out is because a girl was sa by a staff member
Right! Strength in numbers is a thing and it makes you want to stand up/speak out, why are people so inconsiderate?
Danielle seems very believable in this case. I believe her and I respect her so much for speaking out.
The girl that was assaulted made a video confirming what Danielle said
I didn't like her but even as I heard these things that so horrible how can a place like that exist how come it hasn't been shut down what a twisted world we live in I feel bad she and all those kids had to go through all that
And there have been others speaking out since as well. Dismiss her like there aren't handfuls of people now speaking out about not just this place but many others.
I love how the main talking point for those who don’t believe Danielle is that the she’s not used to “tough love”. Putting your child in an environment with sexual abuse is not tough love at all.
Starving your kids Isn’t tough love. Torturing your kids isnt tough love
During her IG live she was telling her story and at some point towards the end her mom started saying “I don’t believe that, I doubt that very much” and Danielle got super upset her voice started cracking while she said “I swear to you it did it did” and people were like “you’re talking back to your mom rn, that’s why you went to the ranch”. People are sick in the head
@@belbarcelos9264 holy shit that's so disgusting. Her mom is literally doubting her abuse, of course that's going to upset her. It makes me wonder if she started acting up because she was abused and her mom ignored her so she kept ramping up the act until she landed on Dr. Phil.
@@rockercaterrorencountered4924 Her mom would always interrupt whenever Danielle mentioned the parents role in sending the kids to the ranch, she was saying they should do more research because that place had a crap ton of lawsuits since ever. But her mom downplays a lot of her experiences and doesn’t want to admit that she had some responsibility for what happened to Danielle.
@@belbarcelos9264 I kind of understand that because I could see her mom being caught up in "I have to do what the professional is telling me to do", but also it's super easy to just apologize to your kid instead of talking over her when she speaks about abuse.
chat spamming "Hi RUclips!" gives me life
Yeah weirdly wholesome
samee they're all adorable
Truly disgusting, that some “people” would do this horrible thing
comments like these give me laugh
Then at the end they were spamming bye RUclips 😭
the fact that people can’t see past her past is mind-blowing to me. she was a child (a troubled one) who was going through a mix of emotions, and then there was this man she never met ridiculing her without really knowing her mindset. then on top of that he sends her to this horrible ranch who mentally, emotionally & maybe physically abused the children they were supposed to “help”. and when danielle shows leaps of development & maturity people still can’t see past the fact of her past? what type of “clout” could she get from this? when danielle was younger all people did was hate on her and belittle her & now that she’s matured & is doing something good with her platform people still find a way to bring up her past & belittle her further. the fact of the matter isn’t of what danielle may or may not have done in her past, it’s the fact that she is speaking out about the abuse she may have faced at the ranch & how she is supporting another victim who spoke their truth. it’s sickening.
Right?? Like she's sitting there talking formally!! she's not yelling, she's not portraying the person she used to be...because she has done some GROWING. It's just sad some people don't get that.
I agree! Before I didn’t necessarily like her and just moved about my day. I watched the video like a day after it came out or like a few hours and it made sense to see how troubling it was for her and I could also see how mature she has gotten. I don’t watch her content nor do I think I will but I do have respect for her rn and hope justice is served.
Well said. People forget that Danielle was only 13 when she went on that show. Dr.Phil and his live audience was mocking and egging on a minor for entertainment.She used that opportunity to at least capitalize of the whole ordeal. That was 5 years ago and like you said, she has matured and using her platform to spread awareness. People need to to realize, that people can change and it doesn't matter what they did when they were 13, what matters is she speaking out and trying to help other trouble kids and bringing awarness to the parents that they need to do their research and proper vetting instead if blindly trusting these facilities.
Are you a child?
@@kaydiglawson7767 i think your comment is misleading what are you trying to say?
The thing that gets me is how Dr. Phil reacted to this whole thing. Like all this girl wanted was an apology. She didn't ask for financial compensation. She didn't demand he shut down his show. She didn't ask hin to fall on his sword. The bar was on the floor and he started digging to get under it.
Well said.
Oh jeez, the last sentence. I love it, I'm gonna borrow it when I need it :D
@@captainjoy8976 same that was genius wording
@@captainjoy8976 thanks, I'm blushing
omg this is so off topic but I cant for the life of me remember what that last sentence is for
I remember it being about guys in general....was it tumblr or Pinterest
help i-
Another thing about telling children being abused by adults to file a police report is that, in my experience, the cops always believe the adults over you.
FR! Im so glad bhad bhabie used her platform cause its really easy to just shut down and invalidate a victims story
Cops assume kids are lying which is fucking ridiculous because a lot of kids don't even have the capacity to lie about abuse. Most of the time kids don't really understand how to believably lie about serious topics until they're older teens, like 15-19 range. If a kid says they're being abused, it's usually because they truly believe it. Whether it's true or not requires investigation, which police predictably rarely do.
Man this comment speaks volumes. You're %1000 right
I had PROOF that I was abused by a family member, texts, recordings, photos, etc. and my family still didn't fucking believe me. And when they did start to believe me they were on his side because "he's been abused and has mental heath problems". Now they wonder why I ran away and won't come home.....
By the time they believe the kids, they’re usually dead.
Dr.Phil likes to call shit like this "tough love", but like... in order for it to be tough love he needs to actually care about them first. This is just like, sending kids to the middle of nowhere for no goddamn reason
Yeah it's totally seems like kidnap, torture and child labour imo
It's a lot more about the 'tough' than the 'love'
Yeah, people are acting like 'how could he have known' - but the 'Troubled Teen Industry' has been a thing since at least the 90s. A GOOGLE search of most of these places will bring up articles about teenagers being denied vital meds, marched to death on 'hikes' where they are denied rest or water, being beaten to death by staff or other residents, entire books, podcasts and documentaries from traumatised survivors of these 'troubled teen' camps. Like, If he didn't know, then he was sending kids there without even checking the places out in the most cursory way.
Especially since most of them are deliberately placed in US states where you don't have to be a qualified teacher or councillor to run a place like that, they don't require inspections of facilities or background check on staff. Which means he didn't even check if the people running them had any qualifications or were like... not convicted sex offenders.
So you're just going to believe the Cash Me Outside girl are you.
@@ChickenOfAwesome there’s tons of people on TikTok talking about their stories about going to camps like this. One told about how this one camp would make the victims hike up to 30 miles every day, and only gave them food and water if they made it to designated checkpoints. The nearest town was 60 miles away in one direction only, the rest of the area would lead into empty forests for hundreds of miles. Everyone in the nearest town was aware of the camp. This girl tried to escape, went the wrong way into the forest, and that earned her another FOUR MONTHS at this camp.
It’s so annoying that people paint this as being a situation where she wants “clout”. This is TRAUMA not DRAMA. There’s a massive difference between the two. It’s highly highly possible that she came out with this now because she finally found the strength to fight back. Everything celebrities do isn’t about clout or attention.
It's so annoying when people have actual problems and concerns and everyone calls it "tea" and "drama"
For real man not to mention she getting backlash, but her stepping up on a platform to all to see to speak up could give people who have also been to that ranch the courage to also speak up about it. She may have done some shady stuff in the past (and a bit racist but we're not going to talk about that rn) but what she did could have helped so many people to speak up about their experiences there
And even if it was for clout who the hell cares. These places being exposed matters more than celebrity bullshit.
"she's not going to blame her mother....I'm going to blame her mother for her." 😂
Me too
Same
@@anniecatherine6340
basically, her mother , i cant...
The problem with that is the parents, more often than not, are lied to about what goes on in these places.
These places will tell parents not to believe their kids because they're just "acting up" and "trying to get out" of the program and they'll say anything. EVEN when the kids are telling their parents that they're being abused ect... The program will assure them their kids are safe yadda yadda
It's disgusting
@@nylonsghost7938 ahh yes, because going to Dr. Phil, on national tv, is a rational solution in the first place.
I don’t dislike Danielle Bregoli because I understand she was a CHILD who was held up as a spectacle for worldwide public ridicule and criticism and was failed by every adult she came into contact with.
Victims don’t always have to be loveable characters.
"Victims don't always have to be loveable characters"
Louder for the people in the back
so well said 👏
Why doesn't anyone ever call out the parents in these situations??? Like, why was she acting out on the Dr. Phil Show in the first place? Because of her shitty parents!! I'm glad D'Angelo finally said it. Danielle's mom is completely at fault for creating this behavior in the first place, and then dumping her daughter on someone else, instead of standing up and acting like a responsible parent. If I was acting out, my parents would have been extremely concerned and would have tried to help me. They sure as hell wouldn't have put me on a damn reality show and then shipped me off to correctional camp.
i pray she gets the proper help and support she needs. you're completely right in saying that she was failed by every adult.
That last sentences could apply to a lot people(fictional and real).
Some of my psych professors actually use Dr. Phil as an example of what you don't wanna be as a psychologist 😭
Legit? Lmao
Iconic 😌
LMAO
Mine did too lol
@@meco7956
ruclips.net/video/ngaRstWBJvs/видео.html
This is a video was made a long time ago by a counsellor condeming Dr. Phil's medical practices. If you want what an actual practicing psychologist thinks of him you should watch this. I am surprised that this didn't blow up honestly.
Adults don't see teenagers as children. I look back and realized I was taught nothing. We're expected to already know then punished for being lost and making mistakes
I 100% agree with you. It shocks me how a lot of adults can't recognize this. Teens are still kids and should be treated as such. I feel so bad for all the troubled kids like Danielle that just wanted help, but were seen as a joke instead.
Literally was taught nothing
@@rickcruz7620 ive been to those places and they are abusive.Most teens aren't violent so it's odd you have this stigma that they're violent and deserve to be abused for having a lack of guidance.Teens are minors and they react to their environment and lack of guidance.Its easy to send your child away because you're lazy and don't want to do the bare minimum of being a parent. Theres a family channel that sent her son to a ranch because he played a "we're going to Disneyland" prank on his sibling.When I was in there, those KIDS said they were getting mentally, physically and emotionally abused at home. You send them away to get abused them expect them to come back mentally stable and loving you? You broke the little trust they had.You teach your child to be a certain way. A lack of guidance does even worse damage.Its your job to be a mentor. Many Expect school and media to do your job.What's so hard about talking to your CHILD, making sure they can trust you when they need help,getting counseling, family therapy and putting your kids in a extracurricular activity. Same with jail. Lock them up, make them do slave labor but don't put rehabilitate. So they get released but they aren't mentally stable from the jail abuse and they cant get a job. They cant get a job so they commit crimes or sell drugs. They've told me they get caught on purpose so they have a place to sleep and eat for free because they cant get a job to make a living.
@@rickcruz7620 ??
teenagers are treated like kids and then are expected to have adult mentalities.
"I'm going to handle things my way"
D'Angelo: "She's gonna catch him outside"
I LAUGHED SO HARD
That line made me spit my coffee out!! Hilarious. Imagine merch, Dr Phils face on tshirt with 2 black eyes with "she caught me outsssside!" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@redrumtruecrime oh my gosh that would be so freaking funny😂
And how about that?
@@ArticulateAnodyne on the back!
Cash*** 😂
It's so weird that people say that she's lying when she has been saying how effed up that place was since day one. But people didn't seem to care, now she's standing with the movement and using her experience for good and people act like this is new information. Just because you don't like her, doesn't make her less of a human.
I agree. I don't like her, but I believe what she's saying to be true.
It's even more stupid that people think she's lying when there are multiple other victims speaking out, and the ranch has had multiple lawsuits brought against it for child abuse. The only reason Danielle even made that video is because another girl spoke up about being sexually assaulted. They're not denying it because it's Danielle, they're denying it because they're victim blamers and child abuse apologists.
@@rinrin9236 Exactly. How many victims have spoken out about shit like this and were bashed for it? They're called liars and attention seekers. It's no wonder why so many victims don't say anything because they know all it will do is bring them more harm and misery. I'm baffled by these societies that protect monsters and punish victims.
People also don't get how fake these shows are and forget its a child on these shows they are literaly exploiting childs
i would like it if she stopped trying to be black but that doesn’t invalidate her statement
Imagine being 18 and coming out with a story about a traumatic experience and people bringing the fact that when you were 13-14 you acted like what usually people think about teenagers which is act wild and now people hold her past against her saying " i don't believe her because of how she acted on the show" as the reason not to believe her. Wtf.
It's absolute insanity. People who've never experienced abuse should feel lucky and grateful that they've never had to deal with this. Instead they bash on the victims. Unbelievable.
She was berated and attacked on the show,,, people need to stop treating traumatized children like they're evil. It's disturbing, they were a minor, and blaming them is fucked up.
People love to discredit children. And nobody even criticizes her mom for how her mom behaved like a 10 year old on the show too. But somehow they only drag her at thirteen for her behavior
On the original video, I literally saw someone say it doesn't matter how bad the treatment was because it made her a better person, like tf? I wonder if any of the people defending the ranch or Dr. Phil would be willing to send the children in their lives to one of these camps, or even go there themselves, seeing as the abuse these children went through apparently wasn't a problem.
@@rebecca1331 I feel like people who put down children's concerns are continuing a horrible cycle of abuse, sometimes without realizing it in the moment (unless they are the abuser of course)
My high school boyfriend was sent to a place like this. He escaped a few times to call me and told me what they were doing. When he finally came home a year and a half later he wrote me a letter breaking up with me. Years later I saw him handing out pamphlets for a church. I stopped to say hello but it was like talking to a zombie. Still breaks my heart honestly. I still have the letter from over a decade ago.
@Cas It really really was. And agreed it shouldn’t have happened to him or anyone else. Sucks.
This 100% reminds me of the book "Boot Camp" by Tom Strasser. Especially this kind of 'break-up' letter, smh.
And you didn’t do anything to help him..?
His parents sent him there... legally. I didn’t know where he was in the US. I talked to his parents to try to find the location. Talked to my parents. What would you have had me do as a teen in that situation to help?
its terribly sad how often child abuse & exploitation happens amoung us, most of it without a whiff of knowledge.. my high school friend also attended a boarding school/camp/ranch (program for troubled youth) in Ontario and a decade later found out what really was going on there behind the scenes.... Even Paris Hilton shared her experience at a boarding school program.. These situations happen to often & I 100% support this young girl speaking out on her experience. We need to start cutting these *kids* some slack, all while protecting & being informed.
People who say “go to the police” really don’t know how many reports get turned away
The police actually laughed at me when I reported threats on my life.
They actually said that "it's a process of growing up" when I was bullied until I sprained my ankle cuz they push me off the stairs.. so yeah.. I agree with you
I live in the uk rn and am in the middle of reporting csa, and it is so hard. For victims of s*xual abuse/csa (inside about other crimes) they don’t allow/recommend you getting therapy for it while there is an open case because your visible trauma is evidence. And that alone puts me on the side of anyone who doesn’t want to go through that
Its sad how often genuine people with genuine concerns get turned away, whether its dealing with their health (doctors not believing people) their safety (threats and stalkers often face no retribution) or their mental health :(
@Audrey David The police in my area just assumed I was squabbling with friends, I explained that I didn't know this person but they basically started witch hunting me with their following after disagreeing with my views.
(See doxxing attempts during the peak of Gamergate)
Another awful experience I had with police was with a WELFARE CHECK. My ex girlfriend and I fought and I wanted us to take a break, not a break up, just a break. An hour later, there was a horde of police at my door. They were banging on the door and ringing the doorbell hundreds of times. They started screaming at me, "WHERE IS YOUR FATHER? WHERE IS HE?!" It felt like they were there to arrest him or something. It was like I was being swatted, not "checked on". I called my parents and they were shocked and confused. I started sobbing uncontrollably in fear saying "HE'S NOT HOME HE'S NOT HOME." Only then they disclosed my ex's name.
I still doubt her call was well-meaning, she used to be on the streets and has a very ACAB stance as a result. She could have contacted my family (she had their numbers).
I honestly don't think most cops are qualified for these things. It feels like calling them puts us at risk of being abused or whistleblown.
2021 really being a way right now. The “wholesome” influencers are being exposed for being trash and the “problematic” influencers are making sense. 😐
Who are these wholesome influencers that got exposed? I literally know nothing about youtube drama.
@@Clementine3107 me neither but I think that’s a good thing. Better to have never known then be disappointed.
@@Clementine3107 same lol
@@Clementine3107 david dobrick (that’s probably spelled wrong) is one. he had a really good reputation but he’s getting exposed for a lot of stuff. there’s like millions of drama channels that can explain it way better than i could so if you want details on what he did you can check those out
@@friendlyneighborhoodloser2639 Thanks dude .
I genuinely don't understand how people like Dr Phil can just appear on TV in the US and play the doctor? And people just.. watch him? Insane.
For real, people are like "but he's a psychologist, people in need rely on his expertise". Okay, and the fact that he's a psychologist means he should know better than to exploit people's mental health issues for tv ratings
tbh I don't understand why people go on tv & air their dirty laundry for millions to see in the first place, like if anything ur making matters worse, because now you're being judged- The dr.phill show in general should just be gone
@@Raven-bz8kl Free treatment that isn't otherwise available in their area. Some are sheer desperation, some are attention-seeking.
Dr. Oz is another example of this
@@Raven-bz8kl It should absolutely not exist but truth is that people don't have the resources to seek help if needed and they don't even know where to start asking for help, any help. Shows like this exploit the weak health system for ratings
I absolutely crave a deep dive on Dr. Phil because that man is so bizarre and super scetchy
You should watch the RUclips Chanel “ iilluminaughtii” she did 3 videos about Dr. Phil
I would also recommend 'Behind the Bastard' podcast. They did two episodes on Dr. Phil and really went through his biography and shady practices.
@@donnettedwards8227 thanks
Dr Phil has been fan-boy’ing Kid Rock since Kid Rock was Fetus Rock.
That says it all imo
late as hell I know, but The Right Opinion has made one!
Phil abused multiple young women over his career, and not just tv. I believe her and tht ranch was hell.
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@orange kittens Wait really?!?!? Where can I read or watch about this?
wow
Yeah, I was scared to watch this video because I thought it was going to be different but I finally did. When I watched Bhad Bhabies video I broke down and cried. I was at Eagel Ranch Academy for 11 months and 2 days, a similar place in Southern Utah. I'm so happy this is being talked about now. Fuck Dr. Phil
I'm so sorry this occurred for you 😔 how is it possible that teens get sent unethically against their will. But it does. Parents need to be loving. Adults need to care. But it's not always the case. I hope Phil gets slammed and pays up fully and I believe God will take care of this.
Paris Hilton's documentary included a great deal of her almost exact experience being sent to a ranch as a teenager. Paris was also kidnapped from her bed in the middle of the night.
I dont believe any of these parents who "truly thought" they were helping their kids, how is having strangers steal your child out of their bed without them having any idea what's happening not a huge red flag?!
It’s a great documentary by the way, I recommend watching.
I immediately thought about Paris Hilton when watching this video. She described the same thing, having no way to capture or record the abuse, having all your contact to the outside world monitored, already being labeled a “problem child” so your word is automatically doubted. It really prime hunting ground for child predators. Something needs to be done about this, places like this shouldn’t exist in 2021.
and Paris still has trouble sleeping and PTSD from it :(
@@katc2040 the camp I went to has done things like that, but only in the most extreme cases. It's terrifying to think about
There is a horrifying number of these “rehabilitation” programs that people just... send their children to in America. And it’s all technically legal, because America is terrible. I’ve never heard a story about one of these facilities that wasn’t appalling. Good on her for speaking up about this and good on you for elevating it.
Yeah, hopefully D'Angelo talking about it will reduce the number of commentary youtubers making reaction videos to Dr. Phil, he's always been gross and this is just a new level
Yes. I hope his voice helps somehow in bringing light to these horrible places.
In the UK we had a show called Brat Camp where they sent ill behaved British teenagers off to some of these camps and it was played for laughs and went on for multiple seasons
Why do all these disciplinary ranches sound like worse versions of Holes?
@@TheSongwritingCat people suck, parents are desperate, and abused kids acting out need help
Danielle actually talked about her sexual abuse as a child on a live and people where laughing at her on that live for being loud and upset and her mom kept trying to get her off
that is fucked up but we don't know anything is about it cuz its just the internet but i know she been through sum shi
D’Angelo is that one dude that just takes the knot of thoughts in your head and slaps it into a perfect research paper.
True
WAIT THATS LIKE THE PERFECT DESCRIPTION-
YUP
He'd be a great friend to have for a scramble brain like me lol
I need him for my assignment right now, I can't verbalize my thoughts in an intelligent manner for some reason
“It’s not his fault all he did was recommend a program”. No, it’s entirely his fault. Dr. Phil makes money every time he sends someone to one of these places or even mentions it on the show. There’s plenty of evidence that show this model of treatment doesn’t work but these kids are a paycheck to him
“It’s not his fault all he did was recommend a program” - OK, then it's the parents or legal guardians' fault because why in the Hell would ANYONE allow a supposed "Psychologist" to ship their kid off to some random place without researching it themselves and practicing caution?
This is such a bogus counterargument for anyone to waste their time on - Dr. Phil's a grown-ass adult. He's the only person that's constantly recommending & pushing the Ranch onto troubled kids, not anyone else that walks on his stage. And once the parents sign that contract, Dr. Phil's 1000% responsible for what happens to each and every kid that he sends off. He's never recommended it - he's pushed & insisted that the program is THE fix-up for troubled kids.
@@Eventidesis *sigh* couldn't agree more tbqh
Agreed. But I think you also need to understand that these type of shows are not run by just one person that you see on TV. There's a huge number of people behind the scenes who are running the show and are bassically supporting all of this.
Yeah and Danielle Bregoli said there were many lawsuits on that place before he recommended her. Which means he KNEW the place was shady and sent her anyways, or he didn’t do his research on the place before sending her. Either one is a careless decision on his end
He is in a position of power. Not only with his position as a 'professional', someone a number people trust to know what they're doing, but also as they are being broadcast. This is all public. You can't object because then you're the bull-headed bad guy. He has a duty of care amplified by the fact that this is happening publically. He is responsible. Both him and his team on the show are negligent to say the least. Disgusting.
I’m sorry but a psychologist that “treats” patients by ridiculing them on TV does not deserve to be called a psychologist. No matter how nice he seems, he’s a TV personality doing what he does for fame, acclaim and money disguised as charity and “helping”. Not a healthcare worker who truly cares about the well-being of their patients otherwise he wouldn’t be involved in a show like that. Like ffs literal children go on his show and the format is there for the purpose of embarrassing them in front of a live audience when they could actually have underlying issues that should be dealt with in private. Acting and overdramatisation or not, the fact that parents even let their children take part in a show like that is sad. If they were faking the issues in the first place they probably actually have issues now from what they have to go through in the aftermath of the show.
- from a psychologist-to-be
yes! exactly this. dr phil's show never really felt like he was actually trying to help people, but rather just embarrass them and set them up for wide ridicule /:
Yep. It's painful to watch. Kids and addicts shouldn't be ridiculed in front of an audience for profit or entertainment. And he always prods them as if trying to pull out their worst issues while they're on display like a freak show. To hell with Dr. Phil.
yeah and then their embarrassment and family issues are immortalised forever on the internet because of it. it's messed up, there should be laws against this. i think there are way stricter ofcom rules in the uk now about this, i'm trying to even think about seeing a kid without a blurred face in reality tv here in the past 10 years and can't think of anything. i could be wrong though, but i think it's stricter now. there should just be laws in general against embarrassing even adults who are obviously being exploited because they are at their lowest mentally/financially, it's not right.
def agree, i’m also a psychologist-to-be :)!
he literally just exploits people and makes them look like an inferior joke so his audience can forget about all their own problems, mistakes, and behaviors. do you remember when he victim blamed a girl who was manipulated by a grown married man at 17? they victimized the wife the whole time bc she was jealous, when her husband was literally an ephebophilic predator. and the time a girl with delusions had all her trauma written out on the board like it was nothing, then was aggressively told to get off stage because the audience was laughing at her, so she got embarrassed and addressed it, then he said she just wanted attention. i just wonder how they’re all doing nowadays. because being exploited, especially during a very low point, could be incredibly damaging
She recalls it exactly how Paris Hilton recalls her experience. Why are so many adults doing this to literal children?
Doing what?
hilton was on phil's show?!
@@sapnupua5 no i dont think so but in her doco she shared her experience of a very similar 'camp' place her parents sent her to
Most of the parents are at their wits end by ha point.
I went to 5 private alternative high schools. I’m 39 years old. I’m telling you, what happened to Danielle was the absolute truth, and she’s probably keeping silent about other stuff. No one believes “troubled” teens. It’s always their/our fault, and regardless of what happened, you probably provoked it.
I’m a survivor of the system and I can second that!
True.
My school had a kind-of term long "survivor" program, where we got sent to a farm and had to live a very strict life. I was already struggling with PTSD from family abuse and it just broke me. After they sent me home (early) I endured another 12 mth minimum process of intense school bullying. It destroyed my educational options completely. Even my (rather bewildered) parents described what the school subsequently subjected me to as a "witch-hunt".
These expensive-but-tough school programs benefit no-one who isn't a winner. It's more like Lord of The Flies. Send your kids to a relatively normal school. If they have any awareness of what someone like me went through, they will thank you for it.
I got sent to one Academy at ivy ridge in NY this is real people!!!! Im still hurt and traumatized by my experience there!
This 👏
i think the worst part of this was the people in comments being ignorant asf like pls
Completely agree, it was so sad to see.
yeah, especially on the live video she did
Very sad people like that exist in the world.
No
@@Orangejuice1fan Yes
I hate programs like this. I don’t know how they’re still legal. Every time I hear about one of these youth “reformation” camps, it’s always about how they abuse kids.
FR! Abuse is not the way to rehabilitate kids :/
abuse does literally nothing to encourage good behavior. all it does is inspire insecurities and mental illness
Fun fact! The United States of America is the only country in the world that has refused to ratify the United Nations’ Convention on the Rights of the Child!
Gee, I wonder why that is?
...That wasn’t a very fun fact at all.
Because it seems like many parents view their kids as property and not as separate people
same I've been hearing about it for YEARS!!! Disturbing that they haven't been shut down completely due to the seemingly endless allegations...
My boyfriend was sent to a place like this when he was a teenager. He has told me stories of the physical and mental abuse he faced. It’s horrific. He said the girls in the program experienced much worse than the boys. He is 30 now and he will forever be changed by this experience.
This was so sad to hear, I hope he gets better :(((
What pisses me off is that she’s still technically a child and her haters are going in on her right now about this as attention grabbing!!! Like this is why our youth is fucked up! Adults not acting like adults and protecting our youth!
The thing that's always puzzled me: if a child is 'acting out for attention', doesn't mean that they... need attention? People--especially kids--NEED attention. We are social critters. If someone is hurting themselves physically or in other ways (because many kinds of acting out are essentially an elaborate form of self-harm) 'for attention', then give them more attention! Give them support! It's not that complicated.
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@@Hearthburn1 exactly. Teach these kids how to get attention in healthy ways. It makes no sense to take a kid that needs attention and tell them they can't have it because their methods were "bad". I'm not saying to reward negative behavior, but to not give them other skills seems cruel.
I saw someone say that they didn't care what she had to say because "Dr.Phil made her famous". She was 13! She shouldn't have gotten famous (especially for being a misbehaved child) in the first place.
She’s 18
“Troubled teen” industry’s are a real thing that effects a lot of people. Danielle is just the one who got picked to be on dr. Phil. She was right when she went back on the show the second time bc I would argue she popularized dr. Phil to a whole new level. So predatory when you think abt it bc it drew in a younger audience to the show and then all of a sudden every problematic teen was trying to get on the show to be the next meme girl. Dr. Phil also played a pretty big role in placing Britney Spears in a conservatorship but that’s a whole different topic.
My best friend got sent to a ranch and then boarding school. Haven't seen her in a year. Stories like this make me so fucking scared
ooo
I was so close to being institutionalized in one of these things. My mom had two people come kidnap me at 4am, drag me across statelines (because these types of programs are illegal in the state that i live in, HUGE redflag) drove me 8 hours to this place called Calo (basically like the ranch but instead of horses they had dogs) in the middle of buttfuck nowhere Missouri. I was horrified shaking and crying, the whole car trip they wouldn't let me close the door to use the bathrooms, took all my belongings, didn't let me eat for tge whole 8 hours it took to get there, treated reated me like a criminal. When i finally got there it was filthy and depressing. Immediately interrogated me and asked me all sorts of weird prying questions that i wasnt comfortable awnsering but would gaslight me by telling me that i was "trying to hide something" when i didnt awnser. The whole premise of these things are to trap kids there as long as possible to make money, you're never "rehabilitated" untill they say so much like asylums in the 20th century, they also keep kids tgere after they turn 18 essentially holding legal adults hostage. I was only there for less then a day and the things i saw there were horrific. Two grown men dragging a crying girl down the hallway to be put in isolation, animal abuse of the dogs that were supposed to be therapeutic for the kids, multiple fights breaking out either between the kids or the staff, disgusting living conditions and cramped cabins, all of it was terrible. The only way i managed to escape being there was so beg and sob for my mom to please rethink this when she came down a few hours later to drop off my stuff. I will never forgive her for what she put me through but atleast i didnt have to stay, i can't imagine what the poor kids who were imprisoned there for long periods of tine must feel like, 14 hours was traumatic as is. I truly hope Danielle and the other teens get justice
@@RT-dm4bi I’m so sorry this happened to you and hope you have healed. I feel teary eyed reading what you wrote. 🙏🏾
@@RestorativeRenaissance thank you for taking the time to listen to my story, i am incredibly fortunate to have somehow convinced my mom not to leave me there but i know most kids aren't that lucky, i just really hope these places get shut down and the abuse that's suffered by so many teens gets shed to light because no child deserves to live like that for even 30 minutes.
Glad to see someone else supporting her. I covered this situation and the comments were FLOODED with hate towards her. I get that her past is not that great. But what happened to her is unacceptable. And NO ONE should be dumping on her for sharing her story.
This^^^
Too many adults are far too invested in the social media antics of a child and it’s sad. I don’t care for her, but what she described is the systematic abuse of our most vulnerable children. And she was one of them. Does that absolve her of her past behavior? No, but any reasonable person should realize that her story and some of her wild behaviors are separate matters and should be treated as such. I feel for her and those kids and respect her for using her platform for good because she did not have to.
"Her past is not that great" except her present is also "not that great". She's just not good. But I can understand why people would back her up in this situation bcuz she's right
Ozkan a lot of people wouldn’t be great, upstanding citizens if they were sent to a torture camp, shit can fuck you up
Not only did she share her story, but she actually did so with class. She was well spoken, her message was calm but empathetic, she was firm without being aggressive. It was absolutely mature and done with conviction. I’ve never really had good or bad feelings about her before, but I absolutely applaud her on this.
This is exactly like the Boarding School incidents many other Women (including Paris Hilton) had to go through, where they get basically kidnapped in the middle of the night to be taken there. Watch Hilton‘s documentary, she covered it pretty well. It’s horrible how in this day and age shit like that exists LEGALLY
thats legal??????
The first thing I thought about when she mentioned Utah was Paris and her documentary. Sickening
also, there's a really good webcomic at elan.school where a man who went to one of these abusive troubled teen camps/boarding schools and the stuff he went through is INSANE. it is definitely worth a read, I've been on his email list for a while now.
@@ebecker9 i think Paris even worked with that guy, there were illustrated bits in that documentary in a comic style
Same! All these places need to be shut down! I felt so bad for Paris after seeing everything she went through
Turnabout Ranch and other “send your bad kids to this remote location so we can [REDACTED] the bad out of them” type dealies are SCARY and should be investigated. Not only do they traumatize kids with abuse and kidnapping but they rarely have ACTUAL THERAPISTS AND PROVEN THERAPIES there. Yikes!
If they do have actual therapy the programs will be twisted in a way that breaks you down into a pit of shame and guilt + molds you into submission, it fuckin sucks man
YES! A lot of victims of these programs have came out and spoken about the abuse that happens there, it’s truly horrific
I'm kind of surprised but really impressed about how maturely she spoke about this. It took me until my mid 30s to be able to talk about things like this at all and not even nearly as clear and candidly like this. I hate that this happened to her. I hate that "problem kids" are treated like this. How is further traumatising a kid going to improve their mental health or behaviour....
it's not supposed to improve it sadly, it's supposed to shut them up and make them stop """acting out""". people who send there kids here are neglectful and abusive parents. they don't care about their kids :/
I have a lot of sympathy for Danielle after this. She was abused and traumatised, then not given any real help. Yeah she might have done some crappy things, but today is her 18th birthday. She did that as a child, and everyone has done shitty things as a teenager.
She deserves a lot of credit for speaking up when she's so young, about a topic that's so difficult.
Exactly. Talking about problematic things people do is okay, but adults unloading righteous ire on a literal child is both pathetic and cruel. Cyberbullying doesn't teach anybody anything, except to hate themselves or to be set further in their problematic ways. No kid should ever be subjected to the abuse she's opened up about and I feel so bad for her.
ukw , i think she deserves this one last and new chance to start again . she is 18 now , hopefully she clears up all the previous crappy things she has done and just focuses on her career.
she is young, we should never forget her story (the good the bad or the worse of it) but she has plenty of room and time to grow if she wants to
It just fucks me up so bad that people are sexualizing her and belittling her ever since she was a child. Not liking her is one thing, but treating her like she's an adult just bc she do stupid things is just... Idk, it doesn't sit right with me. It reminds me how the whole internet hated on Lil Tay, a 9 yr old, just bc it was fun to.
@@twoa.m3925 this!! i searched up her name on twitter just to see literal adults asking her for only fans and saying so many stupid things.
Why would talking about abuse get you clout.... even if she was or is “problematic” she still has suffered from something and she was A MINOR
because there are people that lie about mental illnesses/sexual abuse since thats the only way to get attention
@@eli_xikmqq4104 what does she need attention for
@@Peayou... AT MOST crimes like this have a 3% false accusation rate, so don't throw out terms like "plenty" when it's not the case. Claiming things like that makes it harder for victims to come forward.
@@forgenorman3025 exactly
The moment she started describing the transporters, I had flashbacks. I wasn't told where I was going and when I got there, I had to strip down to my underwear for a search. It was in the middle of nowhere. They told my family I was going to get therapy because I was a high risk teen, but I never got therapy at all.
These "schools"/facilities/camps/programs are really terrible. The one I went to was shut down after I left and turns out staff were having relationships with the kids there. None of the staff were trained to watch over us, by the way. There is still more places like this if you look into WASP.
I feel so sorry for her and I hope she gets her apology. I never got mine from my family.
edit: Thank you to everyone for the support and kind words. Honestly I was most upset at my family because I thought I was going to a mental hospital to get help. I learned about 30 minutes into the drive that this wasn't the case. I felt betrayed and uncared for when it came to light that they only sent me to finish highschool. None of the girls and staff understood why I was there once I told them my story. I stayed quiet the whole time I was there but I saw many things. I used all my time to finish school as soon as possible so I could go home. Once I did, I shut my family out from ever knowing of my mental health ever again.
I feel most sorry to the girls and boys who are put into these places without a way to speak up. Our weekly emails to our parents were monitored and screened throughly so no one could say anything. There's many more places worse than where I was at all over the USA and few opened outside of the USA.
I was lucky not to have anything happen to me, but knowing it did happen to the girls who were with me, before and after, left me feeling disgust and guilt. I still get nightmares from the confinement so much I could easily draw every single room down to the finest detail.
I am doing much better now despite all of this. Thank you so much again and thank you to D'Angelo for making a video touching on this subject.
Also a lot of these places were "reformed" into helping youth programs, specifically targeted at troubled teenagers who needed help. The one I went to was 2,000 USD a month and they took in ages as young as 13.
Several of the girls I talked to were there because their parents sent them as a scare tactic and the first month was free. Another girl was there because her mom was abusive and she had been forced to live in multiple programs all her life until she was forced to leave at 18. The handcuff thing is true, as per told from another girl I became "friends" with. It was her second time there and the transporters took her during the day.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, it sounds traumatic
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, it sounds traumatic
@@takuyamoshimoshi Oh. My. God. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm so sorry these places even exist. This shouldn't happen to ANYONE! But I am mostly sorry that you never even got a simple sorry.
That's genuinely disgusting and terrifying. I'm so sorry you were made to be in there.
Dr Phil is scary af, I would never go on his show under any circumstances
A Turtle would also never go to his dangerous show
Yeah he seems to be quite problematic to a lot of people. I think he's out of touch tbh. And doubt this is the last we hear of messed up stuff he's involved in.
I Stan dr phil
that and being under the scrutiny of hundreds of people
@@thattypicalgalgamer8845 I used to but shady shit kept coming out so I stoped
I never knew that “The Ranch” was actually a ranch. I thought it was an normal mental illness in-patient program where they give you therapy, and they keep you in to stop you from hurting yourself or others.
Please look up these send away camps because this is scarily common. They disguise child abuse as “tough love”, and the stories I have heard from these “rehabilitation” programs for troubled teens are always disturbing.They have successfully used ads and propaganda to run unchecked and unregulated. Rarely do they actually help kids and usually, further traumatize children
tbh though, i always wanted to go to the ranch because i need[ed] help, i feel so horrible for the perople
Yeah like I thought maybe they just had horses or some shit. This is fucked up
Please look up "the illumanati" she has some great videos on things like this
coming from someone who went to one of these centers, this ISNT a joke. and i’m honestly glad she spoke up about these things. if you have any questions about places like these, and you want to hear it from a source who experienced it first hand, i’m more than willing to discuss
Maybe you can make your own video about it.
PLEASE make a video about it. i think it could do a lot of good for people who need to be informed. i’d definitely watch it too
How do the kids there interact/behave with the other kids?
@@yellowshoeee I mean it depends on the facility. The one I went to, everyone sort of bonded over the fact that we were all ripped out of our homes, but there were a lot of fights, sometimes physical, usually resulting in what they would call "a restraint" which is pretty much just legal child abuse that your parents sign off on before you get there
@@THE326JORDAN working on it! will hopefully post soon
this is actually legit what happened to Paris Hilton and she was scarred for life.. terrible that it's still happening today
What happened to her?
@@rai1879 she was taken to one of those "kidnap you in the midde of the night" ranches, too as a teenager.
@@rai1879 If you watch her documentary, she goes into what happened to her. But basically, it was the same as Danielle- kidnapped in the middle of the night, abuse, lack of food, solitary confinement, etc. Paris has/had nightmares about being kidnapped for years because of how they dragged her off.
@@minajones8341 omg. How is this legal? Do parents give permission to do such things?
Sorry if I’m bothering you
lol parents should no have no rights to allow that...
She's not lying, everything she says is consistent, she didn't pause to try to come up with stories in her experience. Lying a stressful thing. But she talked about the experiences in a straightforward manner, like she's saying it like it is. This is good of her, supporting a fellow victim.
even if she stopped to say something, why would anyone’s first thought be “oh she’s lying”..?? these things are not to be lied about and NOBODY should be questioned when sharing their story.
@@fauxes5991 exactly. Well said. I like you.
@blv what
The allegations are serious enough for them to at least be looked into if posible. If they are fake they are fake but its still pretty serious shit and should warrant a search
A place with child labor and poor living conditions posing as a rehab center... with a kid stealing a car in a failed attempt to escape. They really sent them to Camp Green Lake.
Is that a Holes reference 😮
@@lillie_kay omg it's basically holes
@@bearysorry5009 I was so shocked because I haven't read that book in years
@K - Dot It's called Holes by Louis Sachar
@K - Dot the movie is great
"No one ever likes you more because you open up about abuse." This. When I came out about being a victim, I lost my entire support network. Almost every single friend I had before that abandoned me in favour of my abuser- the only one who didn't didn't even know him. Even my parents refused to support me and told me a glorified "man up." I went through the most traumatic period of my life, one where I was the closest to ending it all. So whenever somebody accuses a person of faking their story for "clout," especially when they are clearly struggling so hard, I take it very, very personally.
This feels like Holes in real life, and It's horrible
My thoughts exactly!
omg I remember reading that book in fifth grade lol
Holes didn't come from nowhere, these places have existed in the US for a long time, and they're completely horrifying (and frequently are/are run by cults)
Wait fr
@@jupitermelichios392 they seem so tiring and disgusting. Can't believe humans do this to each other. Especially CHILDREN
It’s rarely talked about, but a lot of “mental health” camps and stuff like that are actually very corrupt and end up harming the kids
I sincerely hope this story brings a lot more attention to the topic. Danielle is a lot higher profile than most of the people who have spoken out about this.
if a partial inpatient or intensive outpatient program is available, and the child isn't at a very high risk of seriously injuring themselves or others, use it. being able to take breaks its essential to mental health treatment.
Paris Hilton said the exact same thing happened to her. These places need to be closed down.
Thought of the same
I was looking for this comment seriously it’s so wrong
As someone who has gone to a similar program i am glad she’s speaking up. Some really messed up things go on but nobody listens to the kids because we are all just labeled as mentally ill.
y’all remember when “send them to the ranch” was a meme and we never knew what really went on over there? yeah that never aged well 😭
Actually some memers kinda did bcz of what Danielle said but it was reduced to a meme. Yeah, memes could be fucked up.
Time to send Phil to the ranch. And the counselors will be all the girls he sent there to be abused. Finally someone in one of those places would actually learn some valuable skills, surely
Idk Felix is a really caring and compassionate person I don’t think he gives a fuck about being involved in drama but he does care that his audience follow his positive example as a role model and a decent human being and surely when he learns about this he will address it in some way while showing solidarity with the victims. Or at least I genuinely hope so for his sake.
@@esmeraldaoga Who did Pewdiepie send to the ranch lol? All he did was watch a show and assume that a TV network wouldn't work with an abusive program. How were any of us supposed to know what went on behind the scenes?
Yea I watched the youtubers who like made that meme before all this information came out and they sat down and watched Daniele (I legit can't spell her name im sorry) video and kept apologizing about the meme and saying they fully support her.
I’ve only seen the title, and I’m already surprised.
Me too
righttt
I'm very shocked as well
you and me both
@@ameliasellers6396 I like your pfp. Go Asami
Most child victims of trauma act out, her behavior prior to being on Dr Phil was probably due to trauma. This ranch then caused further trauma. I actually feel so bad for her.
I swear D’Angelo’s voice is so nice
It really is
IKR
we've known this for many years ;0
Yesss
Preaching to the choir hun!
The fact that she was SO YOUNG when everything happened. She was barely a teenager, still a child I really hope she’s able to get better
I watched the entire video and I have a lot of respect for her. I was waiting for it to turn into a joke but it didn’t..surprisingly. She should ask for more than an apology but idk. Actions need to be done.
yeah, it's unacceptable what happened to her and all those other people.
@Someone 333 Same. She's not clout chasing and she didn't deserve what happened in the ranch, but she's still not a great person
I used to be an angry 13 year ago. I HATED the way the adults degraded her. Ask the kid what is wrong.......and LISTEN TO THEM!!!!!
Let's be real tho, hes not even gonna give her the apology. Have you seen that man? You cant convince him hes wrong because he knows hes not in it to help people, just cash in on yelling and shaming people.
She honestly has the power to help many people. In this situation with the camp, and in her life in general cause she had that reputation as the bad girl, if she showed the world you can rise about your childhood and what people say about you she could inspire millions. We gotta pray for this girl man. Any celebrity who speaks out about these things could be in danger.
'It's not his fault, he just recommended the place'
BS. He is in a position of power. Not only with his position as a 'professional', someone a number people trust to know what they're doing, but also as they are being broadcast. This is all public. You can't object because then you're the bull-headed bad guy. He has a duty of care amplified by the fact that this is happening publically. He is responsible. Both him and his team on the show are negligent to say the least. Disgusting.
Most facilities claiming to “help” “troubled teens” is full of abuse and don’t care for children under their care. Paris Hilton made a documentary about being in this system and how EVERY teen there went through the most heartbreaking, horrible things and were abused in one way or another.
Can confirm. I’ve been in a plethora of these places while in foster care and nobody ever believed us. Almost two years ago the last place I went to finally got shut down after a girl spoke up about the sex trafficking and sexual abuse that was happening there. Other girls spoke up about it and they found evidence because the abuse was recorded. What’s sick is the staff were trusted by us kids! Us former kids were so damn hurt because the 3 staff members involve were favorites. We fully trusted them and they knew it. They took advantage. I look back on the times I spent with them and shutter because that could of been me, or any of us. Most of us already have a history of abuse, especially sexual. We were easy targets.
Feel like people who say stuff like “why didn’t you do this or do that” to someone they come out about something really invalidates their whole experience. like wtf are they even trying to say like are they trying to insinuate that they would’ve handled their traumatic experience better than them or that they think everything? Like damn bro sorry ig???? Like comments like those don’t help and are low key victim shaming.
It's not even lowkey, saying "real victims speak up immediately" is victim blaming 101
Yeah. The nature of abuse is that you're made to feel guilty and like it's all your fault.
She essentially had the whole world telling her to go to hell, of course she's not going to turn around and try to make a case for herself right away.
See as a survivor of abuse i went through the whole period of "what if i had just done this, it probably wouldn't have been so bad if i had done that instead" of blaming myself for my abuse. People go through that already without the whole world telling you too. I can imagine what that's doing to her rn
With 100% certainty: There is no way to change your abuse. You can do what you need to in the moment to spare yourself from worse trauma but you're NEVER to blame for how someone else is treating you.
I had that done to me.. by the police. I was filing a report and this fucking cop started asking me questions like 'well, why did you give hime the money'. Like dude, i was panicking and feared for my own safety while this dude that's clearly on drugs yelled at me for money...
And guess what. After investigating they found no criminal wrongdoing on his part. He wasn't charged and i never got my money back. Almost 900 euros and I'm a student...
@@CocoaPuffss That is so messed up, I'm so sorry. I feel like anyone would have done the same thing as you, why risk making a clearly unstable person angry?
When I was 13 I was in a situation where I was constantly abused by every adult in my isolated life and I was also portrayed as being "bad" so no one believed me. I feel for her.
I hope you are doing better. you are amazing and you are so strong. im so proud of you for sharing your story. also, you are very pretty
Same.... Mine continued until 17. I’m still struggling today.
Same, my mum neglected me and verbally abused me but whenever I went to someone about it I was made out to be bratty teenager. If you took one look at the house I grew up in it's so obvious we/I was being neglected. It's so frustrating to look back on. When I saw my nieces and nephews going through the same thing people fell out with me because I called it out, now the mother of my niblings has revealed herself to be a truly horrible woman and no one likes her anymore. Still haven't got my apology tho.
I'm sorry to everyone in this thread 😔 sending nothing but blessings & positivity 💜🙏
This is courageous as hell. She KNEW she'd get tons of hate and judgment and victim blaming, but she spoke out anyways. Major respect.
How can you respect a young adult who at will disrespect or hurt anyone because they just want to? All those words of her parents and psychologists were nothing to her and suddenly she will act as a victim. How about her victims? She hasn't paid for her sins.
@@rickcruz7620 uhh wtf?? You need mental help my guy because what the actual fuck are you talking about...
@@Nick-dx2pt She and you need professional help.
Sleep deprivation's a form of torture.
One of the most affective kinds. Why would people do this to children?
Which means it's illegal in normal countries
@@derdurstbursch keyword “normal” country
America is so weird
@@theab3957 If I'm recalling correctly, take it, I'm not American, the CIA even uses sleep deprivation. As an insomniac, someone who has to take drugs to actually go to bed because if not I'll be up for five days and the things I've seen are not fun because I was hallucinating, why would do that to a child? A literal child, who's brain is not yet developed. It's torture. Pure torture.
@@andrealabonair3519 Agreed
This reminds me of the Paris Hilton documentary where she talks about the boarding schools. Everyone believed her about that, so I don't see why they can't believe Danielle about this. If those boarding schools exist, then OF COURSE it's possible these ranches exist.
These "schools" have multiple times been closed down and had terrible allegations agaisnt them, I dont know why they're still even legal
@@katc2040 they often exist either in states that don't give a shit about child welfare, like Utah, or outside the US, where the anti abuse laws either don't exist or can be bypassed easily
@@katc2040 they can easily just reopen with new staff and a new name in a new place, it's pretty easy for them to keep operating when they're connected to governmental departments that want these places to stay in operation:
Basically the NIDA (National Inst on Drug Abuse) drives most of the national grants and policies around drug abuse and prevention, and DFAF (Drug Free America Foundation, the rebranding of Straight Inc - one of the original "troubled teen" facilities) drives a lot of what NIDA thinks through it's political control and connections, and that has repercussions. And then SAMHSA (the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, which is a branch of the US Department of Health and Human Services) is providing DFAF with money to run all their referrals into TTI (troubled teen industry) programs.
It's more complicated than just making the facilities illegal, from a political standpoint, though of course the abuse should stop.
I'm just really glad that people on RUclips were way more supportive than on tiktok I've seen so many people say that she's lying, invalidate her experience because she got a attention because of it or they were just overall toxic. I'm glad she spoke out and brought attention to the things that have happened to her and others.
Tik Tok in general is toxic.
@@dvffYT definitely I took a break from that app it's not rlly worth it
There's even a video by iilluminaughtii where she goes over Dr Phil's history and damn that dude is shady as fuck. I watched a few videos of his and quickly moved on, felt too much like a stunt to me than anything based on actual research etc. But still shocked me when I learned about the stuff..
i feel for her so hard when she was talking about that guy killing a staff member. my dad is in a halfway house after losing everything due to a traumatic brain injury and in this housing he is put with a lot of bad people. a guy who lives in the housing killed a staff member and went on a complete rampage killed a woman who worked there stabbing her over 20 times and my dad is so helpless he has night terrors now because of it but can’t get out. right now i’m trying to get him into different housing but he lives 3 hours away from where i’m at and i’m only 20 years old working two jobs as a care giver trying to move up there and get him the help he needs. this is so sad i hope she is okay.
Good luck, I experienced the same thing with my mom when I was your age. You are strong and amazing. I hope you are able to get your father out of there
I wish you the best
Praying for you and your situation! Keep working at getting your dad out of there.
Most of those “troubled-youth camps” are like this. It’s a whole industry.
And a mostly unregulated industry at that. An industry that benefits from minors not actually being treated for their mental illnesses so they can continue to make money off of “helping” them.
ive been to the same one several times and while i was really lucky there was no abuse at all (it was an aversion to violence program) i can confirm that there were literally no cameras or any kind of surveillance which feels Incredibly concerning when a bunch of 'unruly' teenagers are living together for a period of time with only a handful of adults out in the middle of nowhere
Can confirm, I went to one of these in-patient homes and my roommate was there from Dr. Phil. The staff had zero credentials, they’re all just college students, and we only saw our therapists once a week for 30 mins (only to discuss medications, nothing else). I told one of the staff that my suicidal thoughts were getting worse, and she said it was fine because I was too much of a coward to actually try anything. I got discharged when a pair of social workers had to take me to an actual psych ward for trying to hang myself.
These places are hell holes that rich white parents send their kids to for “alternative care”. Fidget toys and slime didn’t help my depression, and while the horses were one of the bright moments, they didn’t help either. It was just a place my parents dropped me off at so they wouldn’t have to deal with me.
(For reference, I was 14 during this. I’m 20 now, and doing a lot better.)
@@sirvalhart7464 one of the girls I was living with had extreme intrusive thoughts, to the point that she had tried to kill people, and their solution was to have her blow bubbles. BUBBLES.
This sounds like the place Paris Hilton spent time in as a teen. Those fake rehabs need to be shut down
They need to be improoved. By a LOT. The need for theraputic centers is not going anywhere, so we need theraputic centers that are good and ethical and not bring on extra trauma.
Interesting enough, both this ranch and Paris' school are in the same state
@@neeren777 i think utah has less human or child rights laws? idk something like that so that’s why a lot of these “rehabs” are in utah it’s crazy
@@user-yp7uq8it3z If I remember correctly, Utah has fewer rights protecting children and fewer restrictions on these types of facilities. Basically if you send your kid to one of these places your signing away their free will and consent.
*Not all residential/rehab progams are bad, just really do your research on these places, please!
@@sappysaphic420 yup I went to one in Utah as well, a different one that while I have complicated feelings abt it it’s not on this level. it is basically bc you don’t have any rights as a minor in Utah lol
“Bhad Babie actually uses her platform... correctly?”
that is a title i thought i’d never see D’angello post...
seeing her talk about it really made me tear up as another victim of a similar program. literal abduction was the least of the problems and even that still haunts me.
ok
@@kobvv uhh wtf?
@@Nick-dx2pt what? I literally just said ok?? does that trigger you or something??
@@kobvvtfw you dont have a personality
I live in Utah and in my mental hospital they used to threaten us with turnabout ranch if we misbehaved. It's notorious in the buisness here for being where you send kids you want to punish. It's not about reform, it's about punishment. Turnabout ranch and other similar programs are just the modern interpretation of the awful insane asylums in the 40s. I'm really proud of her for speaking out about this.
I'm glad people are finally realizing Dr.Phil isn't a good guy, me included. Can't believe we have let ourselves be ignorant for so long.
exactly
i didnt know people genuinely liked him i thought it was just a meme and joke
@@user-rt8xr6yf2x I liked him genuinely till I got into psychology and realized alot of his shit was probably traumatizing the people he worked with on TV.
Yeah, the show is ok most of the time, but the episodes that are like the one with Danielle, where Dr Phil is validating the jeering and booing from the audience are terrible. I don't know what their intentions are beyond making entertainment out of mental health topics(if any), but the moral compass they're applying is very jittery.
@@KattReen Theres also the episode where a girls abusive mother was brought on despite the girl asking them not to bring her on and being under the assumption they wouldn't do that and then embarrassing her and traumatizing her infront of a bunch of people.
This camp sounds like a conversion camp or a group home for kids in the 50s or 60s. Also, it’s insane that Danielle Brigoli is getting hate for standing with a survivor of abuse and is sharing her story.
Absolutely. People cannot seem to separate the issues at hand, it's so immature and harmful. Everybody deserves a platform to speak on their abuse.
If I remember correctly everyone started to come out about this after Paris Hilton documentary mention on how her parents send her to the ranch thing, she literally still have the fear because she thought she was being kidnapped, she's currently trying to have these places closed down
It's not just Danielle Bergholi though - hundreds of survivors of the horrifying "troubled teen industry" are starting to be heard. I see you, survivor.
Dr Phil is the worst psychologist I have ever layed eyes upon. Even when I was a kid I always felt the stuff that happened on his show was a joke or was for entertainment.
Me too! I saw it already as a child.
I hope this year is when he is cancelled.
The youth of today is so smart and sees these things Im proud of the young ppl of today!
#Cancel"dr"PhilNow
Deadass. Do people actually take him seriously?
True total creepo
yeah like hes just publicly humiliating these kids instead of helping them out
And he thinks he is better then everyone because he sold his soul 🙄🙄 should’ve been canceled along time ago
Personally i’m not a huge fan of Danielle but it was so brave of her to come out about this issue.
And as you said she is using her platform correctly to inform other’s about this.
Ok I’m so proud of her growth. She’s a young person who received a lot of public attention at a very young age and she’s growing into a person who is vocal and responsible with her platform and using her increased visibility for good, important things she cares about. Teen girls don’t get enough credit.
PREACH
Same here, I really hope to see her grow as a person in the next few years. I think if she gets away from her mum we'll all see her become much more mature person
me too, i’m rooting for her 💪 let’s hope she surrounds herself with good people and heals from this 🤞
@@lilguyonhiswaytothemall Big yee
Yes, I never thought she was a bad person, just someone who was damaged and broken. I truly believe deep down she has a big heart
I'm 37 and so always saw Danielle as the CHILD she was. I couldn't believe how many grown people were bullying a child. I just wanted to take her home and give her a loving family and straighten her out. She is sounding so much more mature now and I'm glad to see it.
I'm glad there's adults that can actually see through her online persona and recognize that she was a child when everything happened. You're a good person.
So here's where I'm at personally: I haven't looked into Danielle's public history or internet timeline all that much, but if I remember correctly her behavior got so much worse after she went to that ranch. Of course as a human being she is responsible for her own actions, but to me it seems (though I could very much be wrong) that she left that ranch desperate for people to pay attention to her - something super common in people that are denied proper care, support, and attention (either by unfortunate circumstance or malice) and cared a lot more about having control over her own life and a lot less if she burned her world down in the process. That's not the behavior of someone who has learned not to "misbehave," or someone who has learned healthy behaviors. Both of those are things she should have learned at the ranch if the ranch were a healthy and productive place, but it doesn't seem to be.
Yeah, I mean it's a basic human need to have people pay attention to you and care for you, even more so when you're a child and still developing. I think her behavior makes a lot of "sense" in terms of her psychological needs that were not being met and the additional traumas that she went through. Obviously trauma doesn't excuse personal responsibility, but in this case she was a child and all the adults involved really messed up and they should definitely be held accountable - and the child (and now adult) victims of the troubled teen industry 1000% deserve trust, support, and validation now that there is a movement for them to come forward about the abuses they've gone through.
@@WitchOracle I'll be honest, when people write off attention-seeking and self-centered behavior as someone being selfish and rude and awful I get a bit frustrated. I've seen too many people act self-centered because they were the only people they could rely on to care for themselves, so they focused on themselves. I've seen too many people (myself included) who are engage in some form of attention-seeking in an either small or large way because the attention they needed was denied to them. Lucky for me I tend to look for attention in zmall ways: whenever I in a conversation and I'm saying or explaining something, I'll often repeatedly ask, "Does that make sense?" because then they have to respond and show they're listening to me. My peers often ignored what I was saying at school (I think it was unintentional, because I was shy and had a very soft voice), but even something that isn't that big has affected how I speak to other people for the rest of my life. As you said, her behavior makes a lot of "sense" when you look at what she's gone through.
@@cassied.6731 I absolutely relate! I tend to feel like the "needy" person in relationships (not just romantically) and I've come to see it as directly related to how secure I feel in those relationships and a sign that I'm not getting something that I actually do *need...* Being able to accept that about myself has really helped me to communicate with my loved ones about *what* I need and *when* I need it and it has made a world of difference for me. It turns out lots of people want to be able to give you what you need as long as they know what that is! Unfortunately, there are still always those relationships where someone won't be able to give you what you need for that emotional security, and I think that absolutely contributed to the atmosphere that Danielle was growing up in :/
ETA: like... I can't for the life of me imagine handling a "problem child" the way her mom did... Sure, I'd look into real therapy and addressing her needs and such with qualified professionals, but I would never throw my child into a predatory media spotlight??? It just feels like all kinds of obvious negative reinforcement
Wow this whole part of the comment section has opened my eyes so much!!!!
Thank you so much Cassie D and Diana 😊
i agree but i personally dont think you blame a child for things like that, anyone whos under that much abuse especially as a child would act like that
The person who said "how do people spend their time tweeting joe biden tripping when dr phil exists" took me to the ranch 💀💀💀
D’Angelo dressed as a cartoon bank robber and I’m here for it.
HAHAHAHA WTF
With those headphones, mans is a real cat burglar
the man is out here stealing HEARTS 😭😭
I never thought I would see the day where I said I was proud of Bhad Bhabie....but dammit, I am PROUD of her for speaking up and using her platform to speak out for these kids. I hope that she DOES get that apology from Dr. Phil...and if not??? Give him hell.
PURRR 🔥🔥🔥
True hope she and other victims get justice
Sounds a lot like what Paris Hilton went through as a child
Yes, it is an industry that has been destroying lives for decades. Hopefully they will pass laws to stop the abuse.
Riiiiight!!! Jesus how are these institutions even legal???
@@steldalcien8699 it’s because they’re not _supposed_ to operate that way, and it’s often very hard to prove when they do. When they do end up shutting down some of these places due to misconduct, they tend to just reopen under a different name, and then the cycle repeats itself.
The reason they have been able to gain support in the first place is because of their outcome data (which tends to be pretty sparse and kind of questionable much of the time). What’s crazy to me is that they are not all required to record or report outcome data. I often see them just showing old data that has been released by other, unaffiliated, programs/facilities.
Exactly what I was thinking
Just read her story and it was horrifying
1. I do not like Danielle
2. Danielle should be believed
3. Action needs to be taken to investigate this camp
These 3 things are not mutually exclusive
1) there isn't a reason to hate her .. and 2) you literally could have left that part out
it's scary how much the recognition of someone's humanity is contingent on liking them for so many people.
This. So much.
Smart comment #SuppportDanielleBregoli
#Cancel"Dr"PhilNow
As someone with autism who isn't necessariliy the most likable, especially since I have difficulty socializing or making friends, "normal" humans and their standards for who is allowed to be treated with basic civility terrifies me to no end.
Saving this. It's such a succinct way to communicate such an insidious problem.
Honestly I’m really happy she spoke up!! She’s not the greatest person, but this is something seriously important and it’s good that she stood up for herself!
“It wasn’t his fault because all he did was recommend a camp he and the show had a deal w/“ he and the show had a deal with them. He recommended this to them. He forced them to go here basically. He made her mother literally think she had no other choice and ofc after a bunch of abuse and shit a 13 year old kid is gonna not talk about it because she was probably scared of getting sent back.
She said she begged her mom and told her about some of the shit but obviously her mom didn’t believe it
Well i haven't heard this "blow up" in the mainstream yet, if ever.
Idk if any of this is true or just things being turned around because there are places like that all over the country and they are put in to try to 'straighen' kids up. Bootcamps, those tv shows like Scare Straight and etc. Those places are not put together to be nice to the kiddies, but of course not go to the other extreme so it just needs to be investigated and wait and see what really comes out of this.
It is popular now-a-days to come out and accuse, accuse and most of the accusations end up how?
This is the thing! Places like that rely on the fact that those kids have been in trouble and that even if they spoke up they are unlikely to be believed. Add that to the fact that they have probably already suffered abuse and are vulnerable
@@jodiekelly1355
That is true too so that is why it has to be deeply looked into to make sure it is either the way you are saying or just disgruntled disturbed teens trying to mess the place up. We'll see what comes out either way, i guess.
"She's gonna catch him outside" I died. 💀💀💀
What are we going to do right now?
Me: Drop everything and watch D’Angelo
Exactly
You comment better get chosen to be read
right now that's me
Me trying to figure out if I should watch D'Angelo, Danny, or Kurtis
@@sparrowsace omg all the good videos today. Jarvis was watching Nick DiRamio early, so hopefully he posts today, too!
i believe her, she literally has no reason to lie, everything she said is probs 100% true.
That’s scary. She was just a kid when it all went down. As annoying as she is or as much as you hate her, she was a child and her life was being controlled by the adults around her
Exactly. She was a 13 year old girl acting out. Her mother puts her on national t.v to be made a mockery of and gets shipped of to that awful place because her mother was sold a lie by Dr. Phil. I feel bad for all the trouble teens who have been dragged on that show.
@@bonniehowell4259 I wonder if she acted out due to abuse or bad parenting
These sort of camps came up in the Paris Hilton documentary too. The whole message of her documentary was that the camps are extremely traumatic and don’t solve anything. I’m glad this is getting attention because I had no idea that they were a thing. The kidnapping you in the middle of the night, I can’t even imagine how traumatized they must be. We gotta end these camps.
Bhad Bhabie: “I’m gonna handle things my way”
*we got a diss track coming*
I’ll be waiting for it, she actually reveals this on her last track on her album