Still obsessed with this car - these guys took real good care of my baby during the filming of this video. If anyone has a chance to own one of these for any amount of time - do it. They are a joy to drive.
+Tyler Johnson - Thanks again for loaning your A7 for filming. It's still a car we recommend on the Podcast and elsewhere. We're really glad to have put yours on camera!
+matrixlone depends on the deal. If you can get a Certified Pre a owned one like we did - maintenance costs are lower, cause the car is basically covered for everything but the MMI- it's a good idea to splurge on cleaning. So we spend about 300 per year on cleaning, and about 1000 at any major milestone checkups - we've only had one of those so far. Pretty affordable in our opinion.
I have an 2008 CLS63 so my comment was biased LOL I always wanted one and 3 years ago finally had the money to buy a new CLS but I find the new gen ugly so I bought the best I could find from the slink design generation.
My friend just bought a 14 model with Prestige package. It is a lovely car for sure, Prestige package adds S-Line body which goes on S7's. Prestige pack and 20in wheels really do add even more curb appeal to already a beautiful car. He bought a CPO with 26k miles for $48k.
Same results I would have concluded with. The Panamera is a great car to drive and thank goodness you don't have to see it while driving it. The Audi is a bit numb but I love it! Fun fact: the A7 is just as fast 0-60 as the old Ferrari 355!
I just got one, I also have a A8, A5, and S4, and this car is the prettiest. I have this color combo….only downside is, I drive I “gently” because of my fear of the mechanics. My S4 just went through engine mount issues, flex pipe broke which led to it pouring out coolant and over heating, and now the catti May need to be replaced. I also have a GS350 fsport/GX 460….those are my real go to’s….but this thing is just so pretty.
I read somewhere that the panamera originally had a similar sloped roofline, but when a bigwig at porsche sat in the back (he was over 6' tall) he said this won't work-make the roof line higher so that form would follow function. odd that I think that is audis slogan but it doesn't always apply for them (a7 and the q7 rooflines pop into mind)
love your reviews. I own a 991 c2s and just bought an 08 cayenne S. Used Porsches properly serviced drive like brand new for many years. The interior of my Cayenne looks brand new. Some of the electronics are out of date but it's very useable. Some other German products don't wear nearly as well.
gen 1 panamera one of the most beautiful cars of all time like a coupe wagon but just the storage gets cut not the back seat headroom,, and it gets rounded off as a beautiful space bubble that u can see the sky reflected in from any angle gives 1800es vibes from the back a lil,, but like smoothed out and completed
I would like to see a comparison with the Taurus SHO. I'm a new subscriber and i like your reviews because its a real owners and users point of view. Most owners drive on the road and not pushing the car to its very limits on a race track and you guys show what most all drivers experience. Good job, waiting for more.
Ive driven my Pan very aggressively on the hwys in ca and it handles like a true sports car. Ive hit sharp turns doing almost 80 and it grips the road. My solution for pan buyers is to get a 4s, not the 4.
I own Audi A5 Quarro n now thinking of buying A7.i ..when I get 80 years old perhaps I will think porche at that time... All I need to know which area was this filming done...I wanna g there
Great job as usual guys but I guess the topic of reliability is taboo. Statistically the Porsche wins hands down over the Audi as far as number of problems vs miles driven. This must be factored into the decision if we're focused on overall price. Note to trolls- please don't reply re how reliable your Audi has been. Reliability is a measurable statistic. Math trumps personal experience. Keep the great vids coming.
youdollpete Please review the latest Audi quality reports. Audi was in 4th in overall quality last year. Only 4 points behind the leader... So, when you look at the problems vs miles the Audi is very dependable. And yes, I have 4 Audi's, (one with 275,000 miles on it). With that said, I'm sure the Porsche is reliable too and both offer a good bang for the buck.
Excellent review as always. I was undecided on which one I'd choose, and this review definitely put things into perspective for me - the saloons' traits/ pros & cons were laid out on the table, helping me see why the Audi seems to be the better choice for the money.
Excellent! If I had to choose one, it would be the Porsche. Even though its ghastly, it feels like the better package of the two. Its more focused, more unique and the interior is beautiful. The A7, though better looking, is simply boring, like most Audis.
>Called "Everyday Driver" >Spends half of the review talking about the cars' racing/cornering/sports quality and how the Panamera would be a better racer. Great review otherwise. I'm sold! Loved to hear about the soundproofing and the style is great.
Paul and Todd, Great review. I listen to the podcast every week, and I have been a long time viewer of your videos RUclips. I like that you guys are "real" enthusiasts looking for car comparisons on "Real" budgets. However, is it possible that you guys could do a comparison of affordable cars that have been tuned in the same category? Like a tuned Mazdaspeed 3 vs a tuned WRX, or a tuned Scion FRS vs a Mazda Miata? Thanks, and keep up the good work.
There are 7 of these cars used for sale in the Seattle area. All around 22k. Under 70k miles as well. I might be getting one instead of the new 2017 SS I planned on.
I love this. I like and respect both companies, but admit that I am a Porsche-holic... To me, the A7 isn't as good looking as everybody says. I have never seen the point of the coupe-sedan thing. I realize that the hatch can be more convenient for cargo than a sedan's trunk but if I paid for a 50-80k car that was 4000+ lbs and couldn't seat four adults due to the lack of headroom, how is that better than an A6? Plus, the back of the A7 looks like a dog scooting it's butt on the carpet. The Panamera is indeed the ugly girl who knows how to party. It's hideous from every angle but the front, but a better car despite that. However, I can't imagine the buyer caring about the handling and dynamic advantage all that much to justify the cost. It's great that Porsche made their big fat ugly sedan a "Porsche" in motion, but it was a nearly pointless exercise done extremely well. If backroad handling or track duty is any sort of priority, there'd really be no point in buying either of them for anything other than a superb dd/distance machine/etc. given that the A7 is better looking (no real winner here imo, just a bigger loser in the Panamera), nearly as nice inside, has a better smoother engine and costs 10-15k less? I'd buy the Audi and have 10-14 to buy a fun inexpensive sports car for when I really wanted to carve corners or track it. Leave the fat kids at home for that. Love you guys, the videos, the podcast, the lot. Keep up the good work.
I'd choose the Porsche. Mainly because we have a panamera 4 and you don't see them everyday. But all the Audi's look the same. I see at least ten a day and they all look similar. When you see the panamera you stop and appreciate it. And the interior of the Porsche is muchhhhhh nicer.
looking at buying one privately with 4 owners 3tdi quattro with 11momths mot covering 49000 miles I'm a little scared as it's private. however seller has no problem doing a car inspection and diagnostic. help please .thank you in advance
I've liked these cars for awhile primarily the A6 and A7.. I've wanted a luxury car with a supercharger.. Are the A6 and A7 mod friendly? This may sound silly to some but i love the sound of supercharger whine.. Can we achieve that with the A6/A7
u guys are nuts porsche for life and less problems put it this way i have a 2010 porsche cayenne 297 k miles on it not one dam problem ever besides reg maint.. i also have a 2012 audi A5 that thing looks good but its been in the shop more times then i have fingers and toes..i drive the dam loaner car more than i drive my audi.
While the audi does look better I like cars almost exclusively for performance so I'd have to go with the porsche ; and I think maybe you guys could've added the 750li used to the mix? My friend owns a 2007 and they depreciate fairly quickly.
The Panamara will hold its value possibly increase in value long after the A7 will have faded into obscurity . Check the values of Any Porsche today to clarify this.
looking at buying one privately with 4 owners 3tdi quattro with 11momths mot covering 49000 miles I'm a little scared as it's private. however seller has no problem doing a car inspection and diagnostic. help please .thank you in advance
This is the reason the government wants to them to pay higher taxes because they talk about 50k like it's nothing. I must be super poor. 50k is 700-800 a month not including insurance if you actually want to pay it off. Most people are going 84 months on these cars to get the payments down. This is a easy win for the Panamera.
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I don't understand how a giant company like Audi and Porsche with lots of experience behind them and known for fast cars get 310 hp out of a N/A and even supercharged v6, where as companies that others look down on like Nissan and Hyundai get 333-350 out of a N/A V6 from years ago. Also I love the A7 look but the interior is not as impressive as I thought when I first saw it years ago. It really does not look better than that of a Maxima or a Genesis which are half the price. I think they need to step it up, it's getting a bit outdated.
+iSOBigD The difference is Audi is not a Nissan or a Genesis when it comes to technology or style. I dont' think either of them handle as well as the Porsche or the Audi - I have had a Maxima. However, the Maxima is fast but lacks the same control as either car...just sayin'
+lilannikootani well you're also talking front wheel drive sedan vs a Porsche that costs 2 or 3 times as much. Any fwd car will feel different to a rwd especially when it's not meant for sport. I had a 6th gen maxima and loved it, but my rwd genesis sedan is faster and feels more fun despite being even bigger, heavier, and having softer suspensions. Its mainly because I can let the back slide or turn the car easily.
+lilannikootani oh and most people with audis have the 2l turbo which are slower than the average v6 sedan so they're not "fun" at all. My brother has an a5 which looks great but couldn't keep up with either of my big sedans
+iSOBigD It is true and I agree. When I test drove the A5 after i drove the a7 it was a huge difference. It was like finding a man behind the curtain and not the mighty powerful Oz. The A5 has incredible styling but doesn't hold a candle in look interior exterior or performance as the 7. The a4 2016 looks okay but I have not test driven it. I would hate to be disappointed like I was with the 5.
+lilannikootani well they're the entry level cars along with the new a3 so they'll never have nice materials, but the new displays make them look more premium now which combined with nice exteriors make them sell. For sure though you need to go a6 and up for a luxury car, same as with Mercedes and bmw (e class and up, 5 series and up). Unfortunately most buyers buy the low end and think they have a luxury car just because of the brand, but really they'd get more for their money in a fully equipped accord, avalon, maxima, low end infiniti, lexus, high end Hyundai, Kia, etc.
Great video I think I'd rather have the Audi myself but if I have the money and needed a luxury sedan I would go for a Mercedes E63 Amg there a 2011 for sale close to where I live for 42k with 22k miles
+lilannikootani - We shoot about half our stuff in the Los Angeles area, and the other half around Salt Lake City, Utah. This piece was shot in Utah. Thanks for watching!
If we are talking about price/deals you have to go Porsche all the way. They may both be 50k or 40k (Porsche a bit more) now but I can assure you that the Porsche won't drop much more anytime soon. The audi? it's just another audi so like all audis in another few years it'll be worth 10 dollars lol (exaggerating a bit here)
Juan Galvis just goes to show you buy the panamera for the badge and not the car, the status symbol sells because in my opinion its too ugly... it drives great sure but its too god damn ugly
I am watching this now because you can get a Panamera with 50K miles in the high $30s now. I feel the interior of the Panamera is miles ahead the Audi. And I gotta disagree on the styling. The panamera is beautiful and unique. The audi is honestly forgettable. Also Porsche is known for making rock solid vehicles whereas Audi/VW dos not. Then there is the badge effect. There is a vast different between saying you drive an Audi versus saying your drive a Porsche.
+Art Vandelay You're entitled to your opinion, but there is no sedan to compare here in the video. The A7 is *WAY* better looking than the Panamera. Therefore your opinion sucks.
How does the rear seat heat/leg room compare to the A6--did they actually have to cut out some room from the car it was based on in order to achieve that roofline? Great review!
branzilla Probably true. If you want affordable, go back to the D2 (first-gen) Audi S8. You can get a good one under $15k. It's way lighter than either of these cars. Get one with a rebuilt or replaced transmission, and a recent timing belt job. You also want the sport seats - all the seats are Recaros, but the sport seats have more support. The D2 S8 is several hundred pounds lighter than these barges.
The guy in the blue tshirt has utterly misunderstood what he is driving, give him a greyhound bus, and he would still not know what he was driving, and how to review it.
I´d go as far as to say the A7 looks boring on camera, its pretty nice when you see it in traffic but that scenery just makes it a bit dusty. I´d go Panamera because my key will say Porsche. Good job guys, love your videos and podcast on shoutengine.
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A7 doesn't really seem all that great...only 310hp and the interior sucks. Just to give you an idea of how low 310 horsepower is by todays standards, a 2002 Infiniti Q45 has 340hp. 350z's have 300hp. 2016 Nissan Maxima has 300 hp. Old Japanese sports cars from the 90's had 300 or more hp stock (300zxTT, 3000GTvr4, Supra, GTR) Mustang eco boost has 300hp and Camaro has 300hp. So I agree with Paul, even the base model A7 deserves more than 310hp.
I'd take the Porsche. That way, when I borrow it from the wife, I can beat a little snot out of it and bring it back in one piece and with a huge smile on my face.
it's not time to "re"think the family car who has a big family will still get a 7 seater , others can choose something else and i like A7 but is pointless as ( sportback ) sedan as X6 it pointless SUV or R35 GT-R is pointless sport car
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A7! Every time I see one, or ESPECIALLY an S7, my heart stops for a second and my mouth drops. A7, S7, and the RS7, my favorite sedan. Ever.
What about R8
Jake Woodbury all Audis
+Jake Woodbury R8 isn't a sedan you nimrod.
all the s7s are sportback.......and I love the look of all of them
Hunter Parleir same!!!
Still obsessed with this car - these guys took real good care of my baby during the filming of this video. If anyone has a chance to own one of these for any amount of time - do it. They are a joy to drive.
+Tyler Johnson - Thanks again for loaning your A7 for filming. It's still a car we recommend on the Podcast and elsewhere. We're really glad to have put yours on camera!
whats maintenance costs like
+matrixlone depends on the deal. If you can get a Certified Pre a owned one like we did - maintenance costs are lower, cause the car is basically covered for everything but the MMI- it's a good idea to splurge on cleaning. So we spend about 300 per year on cleaning, and about 1000 at any major milestone checkups - we've only had one of those so far. Pretty affordable in our opinion.
Tyler Johnson wow...im lookin at the new mkz lincoln..i heard those are more in maintenance costs than audi??
Tyler Johnson I will just buy a 2016 A8 when I can afford one
The A7 stunning and quite particular design reminds me the 2005-2008 CLS, man that car was slick
Daniel Maia The A7 is the direct competitor for the CLS ;)
Oh I was in love with that cls for quite a while!
I have an 2008 CLS63 so my comment was biased LOL I always wanted one and 3 years ago finally had the money to buy a new CLS but I find the new gen ugly so I bought the best I could find from the slink design generation.
Daniel Maia yes
My friend just bought a 14 model with Prestige package. It is a lovely car for sure, Prestige package adds S-Line body which goes on S7's. Prestige pack and 20in wheels really do add even more curb appeal to already a beautiful car. He bought a CPO with 26k miles for $48k.
Same results I would have concluded with. The Panamera is a great car to drive and thank goodness you don't have to see it while driving it. The Audi is a bit numb but I love it! Fun fact: the A7 is just as fast 0-60 as the old Ferrari 355!
I finally got the A7 2013, it has not disappointment me at all! Well, except for the cup holders lol I LOVE IT.
MegatronSean still own it?
Hows the A7 treating you?
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I just got one, I also have a A8, A5, and S4, and this car is the prettiest. I have this color combo….only downside is, I drive I “gently” because of my fear of the mechanics. My S4 just went through engine mount issues, flex pipe broke which led to it pouring out coolant and over heating, and now the catti May need to be replaced. I also have a GS350 fsport/GX 460….those are my real go to’s….but this thing is just so pretty.
the S7 is my dream sedan
Just bought a 2011 3l TDI 268 , collect it next week - can't wait
I read somewhere that the panamera originally had a similar sloped roofline, but when a bigwig at porsche sat in the back (he was over 6' tall) he said this won't work-make the roof line higher so that form would follow function. odd that I think that is audis slogan but it doesn't always apply for them (a7 and the q7 rooflines pop into mind)
love your reviews. I own a 991 c2s and just bought an 08 cayenne S. Used Porsches properly serviced drive like brand new for many years. The interior of my Cayenne looks brand new. Some of the electronics are out of date but it's very useable. Some other German products don't wear nearly as well.
I have one of these Audis and you hit the nail on the head.
Thank you guys. You swayed my decision for me. A7 it is 2016
Have a '90 964 Porsche and '16 A7. I'm set.
really like the a7. smooth and sophisticated
Well said!
The side profile is horrid
gen 1 panamera one of the most beautiful cars of all time
like a coupe wagon but just the storage gets cut not the back seat headroom,,
and it gets rounded off as a beautiful space bubble that u can see the sky reflected in from any angle
gives 1800es vibes from the back a lil,,
but like smoothed out and completed
I would like to see a comparison with the Taurus SHO.
I'm a new subscriber and i like your reviews because its a real owners and users point of view. Most owners drive on the road and not pushing the car to its very limits on a race track and you guys show what most all drivers experience. Good job, waiting for more.
Ive driven my Pan very aggressively on the hwys in ca and it handles like a true sports car. Ive hit sharp turns doing almost 80 and it grips the road. My solution for pan buyers is to get a 4s, not the 4.
I've always loved your videos, and still do. Keep it up!
I own Audi A5 Quarro n now thinking of buying A7.i ..when I get 80 years old perhaps I will think porche at that time...
All I need to know which area was this filming done...I wanna g there
Heber valley. I live there. I passed an A7 on this same road five days ago.
I would rather have an a7 than a panamera. The panamera is really ugly.
Where was this filmed? The mountain backdrop is gorgeous
bulok69 just north of Boulder I believe
Heber Utah. My backyard. It’s crazy to see in a video.
Love your channel. Very sound advice.
Do a part 3 and 4 with a 2012 CLS550 and a 2012 6series Gran Coupe...
Great job as usual guys but I guess the topic of reliability is taboo. Statistically the Porsche wins hands down over the Audi as far as number of problems vs miles driven. This must be factored into the decision if we're focused on overall price. Note to trolls- please don't reply re how reliable your Audi has been. Reliability is a measurable statistic. Math trumps personal experience.
Keep the great vids coming.
youdollpete Please review the latest Audi quality reports. Audi was in 4th in overall quality last year. Only 4 points behind the leader... So, when you look at the problems vs miles the Audi is very dependable. And yes, I have 4 Audi's, (one with 275,000 miles on it). With that said, I'm sure the Porsche is reliable too and both offer a good bang for the buck.
Excellent review as always. I was undecided on which one I'd choose, and this review definitely put things into perspective for me - the saloons' traits/ pros & cons were laid out on the table, helping me see why the Audi seems to be the better choice for the money.
Excellent! If I had to choose one, it would be the Porsche. Even though its ghastly, it feels like the better package of the two. Its more focused, more unique and the interior is beautiful. The A7, though better looking, is simply boring, like most Audis.
>Called "Everyday Driver"
>Spends half of the review talking about the cars' racing/cornering/sports quality and how the Panamera would be a better racer.
Great review otherwise. I'm sold! Loved to hear about the soundproofing and the style is great.
You guys really know how to shoot a goddamn video. WELL DONE guys. Always enjoy your reviews.
Deff know that super charger feeling..fire
Had mine about a week now. I love it!
Still have it?
Great video guys! Thanks!!!
Paul and Todd, Great review. I listen to the podcast every week, and I have been a long time viewer of your videos RUclips. I like that you guys are "real" enthusiasts looking for car comparisons on "Real" budgets. However, is it possible that you guys could do a comparison of affordable cars that have been tuned in the same category? Like a tuned Mazdaspeed 3 vs a tuned WRX, or a tuned Scion FRS vs a Mazda Miata? Thanks, and keep up the good work.
There are 7 of these cars used for sale in the Seattle area. All around 22k. Under 70k miles as well. I might be getting one instead of the new 2017 SS I planned on.
Did you get it?
I love this. I like and respect both companies, but admit that I am a Porsche-holic...
To me, the A7 isn't as good looking as everybody says. I have never seen the point of the coupe-sedan thing. I realize that the hatch can be more convenient for cargo than a sedan's trunk but if I paid for a 50-80k car that was 4000+ lbs and couldn't seat four adults due to the lack of headroom, how is that better than an A6? Plus, the back of the A7 looks like a dog scooting it's butt on the carpet.
The Panamera is indeed the ugly girl who knows how to party. It's hideous from every angle but the front, but a better car despite that. However, I can't imagine the buyer caring about the handling and dynamic advantage all that much to justify the cost. It's great that Porsche made their big fat ugly sedan a "Porsche" in motion, but it was a nearly pointless exercise done extremely well.
If backroad handling or track duty is any sort of priority, there'd really be no point in buying either of them for anything other than a superb dd/distance machine/etc. given that the A7 is better looking (no real winner here imo, just a bigger loser in the Panamera), nearly as nice inside, has a better smoother engine and costs 10-15k less? I'd buy the Audi and have 10-14 to buy a fun inexpensive sports car for when I really wanted to carve corners or track it.
Leave the fat kids at home for that.
Love you guys, the videos, the podcast, the lot. Keep up the good work.
Ndogg550 - Very glad to have you with us and enjoying what we do. Thanks for your clear and well thought-out comments here.
That road view tho..
I’m in the military and my 3rd car is about to be either the A7 , S7 or panamera
I'd choose the Porsche. Mainly because we have a panamera 4 and you don't see them everyday. But all the Audi's look the same. I see at least ten a day and they all look similar. When you see the panamera you stop and appreciate it. And the interior of the Porsche is muchhhhhh nicer.
looking at buying one privately with 4 owners 3tdi quattro with 11momths mot covering 49000 miles I'm a little scared as it's private. however seller has no problem doing a car inspection and diagnostic. help please .thank you in advance
Learnt tons - amazing mate
I've liked these cars for awhile primarily the A6 and A7.. I've wanted a luxury car with a supercharger.. Are the A6 and A7 mod friendly? This may sound silly to some but i love the sound of supercharger whine.. Can we achieve that with the A6/A7
u guys are nuts porsche for life and less problems
put it this way i have a 2010 porsche cayenne 297 k miles on it
not one dam problem ever besides reg maint..
i also have a 2012 audi A5 that thing looks good but its been in the shop more times then i have fingers and toes..i drive the dam loaner car more than i drive my audi.
Beautiful scenary!! Where is that located?
umiringains Heber Utah. This is literally my backyard, and it’s crazy to see it in a video.
While the audi does look better I like cars almost exclusively for performance so I'd have to go with the porsche
; and I think maybe you guys could've added the 750li used to the mix? My friend owns a 2007 and they depreciate fairly quickly.
Got this in my recommendations so I guess I should get the A7
Nice review 👍
which one to get between A7 and bmw f10 525i or higher?
Well the price in Colombia of cars is reduced is under 84000 USD
I’m in the market for this type of car, a Panamera, CLS, A7 or 6-Series. But which one?!?
love the a7 but I found looking at the snow and mountains more appealing. I live in Florida. We don't have either
Welcome to Utah! Come up any time! I love going down to Florida.
The Panamara will hold its value possibly increase in value long after the A7 will have faded into obscurity . Check the values of Any Porsche today to clarify this.
Just curious.... you guys mentioned that you have driven all the Panameras...... which is the sweet spot in the range?
Nice video review. Have you (or anyone) tested the TDI version of the A7? If so, what're your thoughts on it?
looking at buying one privately with 4 owners 3tdi quattro with 11momths mot covering 49000 miles I'm a little scared as it's private. however seller has no problem doing a car inspection and diagnostic. help please .thank you in advance
This is the reason the government wants to them to pay higher taxes because they talk about 50k like it's nothing. I must be super poor. 50k is 700-800 a month not including insurance if you actually want to pay it off. Most people are going 84 months on these cars to get the payments down. This is a easy win for the Panamera.
Still beautiful in 2023.
They do share the same V6 diesel
Why doesn't the A7 have a rear wiper?
Still a great review/video!
Can you do a review on the Peugeot 308 cc?
Something like a convertible comparison?
Cheers
Unfortunately, we don't get any Peugeot products in the US. We hope at some point in the future we'll get a chance to shoot some reviews in Europe and review things we don't have here. Thanks for watching and making request!
I don't understand how a giant company like Audi and Porsche with lots of experience behind them and known for fast cars get 310 hp out of a N/A and even supercharged v6, where as companies that others look down on like Nissan and Hyundai get 333-350 out of a N/A V6 from years ago. Also I love the A7 look but the interior is not as impressive as I thought when I first saw it years ago. It really does not look better than that of a Maxima or a Genesis which are half the price. I think they need to step it up, it's getting a bit outdated.
+iSOBigD The difference is Audi is not a Nissan or a Genesis when it comes to technology or style. I dont' think either of them handle as well as the Porsche or the Audi - I have had a Maxima. However, the Maxima is fast but lacks the same control as either car...just sayin'
+lilannikootani well you're also talking front wheel drive sedan vs a Porsche that costs 2 or 3 times as much. Any fwd car will feel different to a rwd especially when it's not meant for sport. I had a 6th gen maxima and loved it, but my rwd genesis sedan is faster and feels more fun despite being even bigger, heavier, and having softer suspensions. Its mainly because I can let the back slide or turn the car easily.
+lilannikootani oh and most people with audis have the 2l turbo which are slower than the average v6 sedan so they're not "fun" at all. My brother has an a5 which looks great but couldn't keep up with either of my big sedans
+iSOBigD It is true and I agree. When I test drove the A5 after i drove the a7 it was a huge difference. It was like finding a man behind the curtain and not the mighty powerful Oz. The A5 has incredible styling but doesn't hold a candle in look interior exterior or performance as the 7. The a4 2016 looks okay but I have not test driven it. I would hate to be disappointed like I was with the 5.
+lilannikootani well they're the entry level cars along with the new a3 so they'll never have nice materials, but the new displays make them look more premium now which combined with nice exteriors make them sell. For sure though you need to go a6 and up for a luxury car, same as with Mercedes and bmw (e class and up, 5 series and up). Unfortunately most buyers buy the low end and think they have a luxury car just because of the brand, but really they'd get more for their money in a fully equipped accord, avalon, maxima, low end infiniti, lexus, high end Hyundai, Kia, etc.
Did this version have the rear sport differential option?
+marcoozark Unfortunately it didn't, you need to go up to the S7 for that.
Great video I think I'd rather have the Audi myself but if I have the money and needed a luxury sedan I would go for a Mercedes E63 Amg there a 2011 for sale close to where I live for 42k with 22k miles
I thought all A7 comes with 7s dual clutch instead of the 8s ZF. or maybe that is the us version?
3.0 Biturbo diesel comes with 8HP
great review
What?! The A8 has a ridiculously tiny trunk for its size.
I actually like the Porsche. I think the Gran Turismo concept is beautiful.
Does anyone know where this review was filmed? It looks like Idaho.
+lilannikootani - We shoot about half our stuff in the Los Angeles area, and the other half around Salt Lake City, Utah. This piece was shot in Utah. Thanks for watching!
You sure are 😂
Heber Utah. My backyard. Awesome to see in the video!
I'd buy the Panamera. I think it looks better inside and out, i think it looks more aggressive, I just think Porsche knows it better.
Sharod101 *Nope.*
If we are talking about price/deals you have to go Porsche all the way.
They may both be 50k or 40k (Porsche a bit more) now but I can assure you that the Porsche won't drop much more anytime soon. The audi? it's just another audi so like all audis in another few years it'll be worth 10 dollars lol (exaggerating a bit here)
Juan Galvis just goes to show you buy the panamera for the badge and not the car, the status symbol sells because in my opinion its too ugly... it drives great sure but its too god damn ugly
Why were y’all in Midway Utah?
Prometo que lo compare.como me gusta ese auto
North face? Or Patagonia?
This or a charger SRT ?
this
Do a Stinger video now!
S7 review anytime?
I am watching this now because you can get a Panamera with 50K miles in the high $30s now. I feel the interior of the Panamera is miles ahead the Audi. And I gotta disagree on the styling. The panamera is beautiful and unique. The audi is honestly forgettable. Also Porsche is known for making rock solid vehicles whereas Audi/VW dos not. Then there is the badge effect. There is a vast different between saying you drive an Audi versus saying your drive a Porsche.
Nice
I cant see any reason to choose the A7 over the sedans,less headroom,smaller trunk and ugly styling
***** Ugly styling? And the porsche is pretty???????
Lmao it's good that opinions exist right? Cause imo the audi is way more appealing than the porsche
Aaron T i dont like audis but the A7 beats the crap out of the panamera in terms of looks.
+Art Vandelay You're entitled to your opinion, but there is no sedan to compare here in the video. The A7 is *WAY* better looking than the Panamera.
Therefore your opinion sucks.
I love the A7 but the panemera interior is superior
damn, almost made it
How does the rear seat heat/leg room compare to the A6--did they actually have to cut out some room from the car it was based on in order to achieve that roofline?
Great review!
Affordable should not be used when talking about these cars
branzilla Probably true. If you want affordable, go back to the D2 (first-gen) Audi S8. You can get a good one under $15k. It's way lighter than either of these cars. Get one with a rebuilt or replaced transmission, and a recent timing belt job. You also want the sport seats - all the seats are Recaros, but the sport seats have more support. The D2 S8 is several hundred pounds lighter than these barges.
No they are right. Real luxury cars are at least 80K. A 50k car IS affordable.
I guess you must be new to cars
Jake Woodbury One of us owns an Audi A8 Quattro, and it ain't you
Martin Espinoza wtf? why reply to me? I'm 16 obviously I don't own an Audi right now fathead XD And I'' going to an Ivy league and it ain;t you. Haha
The guy in the blue tshirt has utterly misunderstood what he is driving, give him a greyhound bus, and he would still not know what he was driving, and how to review it.
Sure audi did not invent that, but they have been making them from before it was cool. Remember 1977 100 C2 Avant?
I´d go as far as to say the A7 looks boring on camera, its pretty nice when you see it in traffic but that scenery just makes it a bit dusty. I´d go Panamera because my key will say Porsche. Good job guys, love your videos and podcast on shoutengine.
Because your key says Porsche....you sound shallow AF dude.
Volkswagen Made Two Ultimate Sedan All Around Luxury Sport Sedans Audi A7 Is For The Low key Person, Porsche Panamera For A Stand Out Person. Pick Your Poison
Please everyone choose the A7. That leaves more Panameras for me. :)
A7 doesn't really seem all that great...only 310hp and the interior sucks. Just to give you an idea of how low 310 horsepower is by todays standards, a 2002 Infiniti Q45 has 340hp. 350z's have 300hp. 2016 Nissan Maxima has 300 hp. Old Japanese sports cars from the 90's had 300 or more hp stock (300zxTT, 3000GTvr4, Supra, GTR) Mustang eco boost has 300hp and Camaro has 300hp. So I agree with Paul, even the base model A7 deserves more than 310hp.
They reserve it for the S7 and RS7
Wrong 333hp. My 2001 A6 had 300hp, One of my cars a mint 2010 S4 has 455+hp with the 3.0 engine.
@@paull3179 Holy shit I left that comment SIX YEARS ago lmao
@@paull3179 The first gen has 310 hp
Make sense buying this car in this day and age? Anybody think they are too old?
Idgaf about corners... Im like Clarkson all i want is "POWERRRRR"
New A7 3.0T in Denmark $230.000 No kidding!
I got an A8
id like the a7 with a tune :)
lol at 15f being cold :D
Gonna get lots of hate, but the A7's rear end is just butt ugly. Besides, it also just look like a bigger 06 Civic.
I'd take the Porsche. That way, when I borrow it from the wife, I can beat a little snot out of it and bring it back in one piece and with a huge smile on my face.
Told YA!!!!! BUY THEM USED!!!!!!!
it's not time to "re"think the family car
who has a big family will still get a 7 seater , others can choose something else
and i like A7 but is pointless as ( sportback ) sedan
as X6 it pointless SUV or R35 GT-R is pointless sport car
Compare them to the Jaguar XF
to basic on the inside, the XJ on the other hand is another story.
No way the Audi looks better than the Porsche. Inside or out. Is it an Audi, or a Lexus? I can't tell.