That rot does not look like it's because of the vent. If you notice it's too far off the path of the hot humid exhaust. That water/rot is more likely coming from the floor/wall junction above. There's not much evidence of moisture damage in the joists spaces above the trajectory of the flue or at least not evident from the video. Yes it's colder at the rim joists because of thermal bridging but you should see more rot over the entire width of the rim joists. Notice how the water seems to travel along the plywood/joists junctions getting worse and wider as it gets closer to the outside wall. Also note the algae around that foundation wall penetration. Looks like some kind of major ongoing water ingress from the outside or a plumbing leak in that wall though I don't see any supplies/drains coming up from the basement.
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My thought too I’ve had a water heater disconnected from vent running a long time and not really ever seen mine drip water or cause that much damage or rot. It’s fixed now but yeah I think you’re right
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Or might be because it is basement and there’s water pooling on foundation or getting in?
I have seen similar on exterior walls (as we seem to have here), due to failed / poorly installed stucco over wood sheathing. So I agree that the damage to the subfloor is not strictly due to the water heater being improperly vented.
Wow, wasn't expecating to see it venting into their house!! Did you find out if there was a vent to the outside that got cut off? Looks like there might have been an exhaust on that outside concrete wall? Curious what the conclusion was even though 2 years ago
First you didn’t notice that the incoming natural gas supply doesn’t have a drip-T prior to entering the water heater. Here in California we require a double wall vent pipe (Metal Bestos) extending above the roof line at least 2 feet. Some areas do have through the wall venting if the building codes in that area accepts this type of venting. Also if in a garage area one should have a water heater with a standing pilot 18” above garage level unless they have a newer type enclosed burner assembly.
Oh, there is more! The union should be next to the gas control valve and there is no T or drip foot at the lowest point. It always amazes me what people ignore apparently going through life unaware of their surroundings.
Depends on water heater size, how often its used, temp settings and length of vent.. if its a real long and squirrelly route of a vent, well used, 40ga set to 140°f the exhaust vent temp right at the water heater side of the stack will get close to 140° . Same deal not used as much probably will get to 120..
It's actually Amazing that this wasn't a "THIS is what Killed an Entire Family" Video! Right? But, did any of the people living there say they were Sick 😷 Or had Symptoms of Poisoning Breathing in all that Invisible, Oderless, Tasteless, Deadly Gas for such a Long Time? 🤔
Is venting out the roof the only option for atmospheric venting gas water heaters? Was wondering ifi could go straight out the wall with mine ? Or can i convert it to except a blower and make it power vent style? Thank you
If you'd like to out through the wall, I'd recommend a power vented; whether a tank style or tankless- installed professionally... not a fan of fan assisted "natural draft" setups.
It's actually Amazing that this wasn't a "THIS is what Killed an Entire Family" Video! Right? But, did any of the people living there say they were Sick 😷 Or had Symptoms of Poisoning Breathing in all that Invisible, Oderless, Tasteless, Deadly Gas for such a Long Time? 🤔
My heater installed 6 mo ago. AND NO VENTATION !!! (Multiple problems,.biut NOTHING connected, venting into house. Got 2nd plumber in for another reason who,.thankfully discovered. it. Just a large gaping vent to my house. (Wondering why Ive had no energy, brain fog,.headache,.and have been losing weight w/o.trying.) Installed by ykung, unlicensed guy, but tbey never got permit, or bad a licensed plumber come by to check the work. (I did t know it was requkred.) Other plumber bad to stay bere to be sure first.company. came back to fix it rigjht. Company owner gave cocky answer that he is not interested in suggestion that TNEY compenaate my other plumber that I had to pay. If not for second plumber I would never have known to tell them to f/u w inspection and permit.
brotherskeeper kenney thankfully, it sounds like you were able to get things taken care of! Sorry to hear you had to go through something like that to begin with.
No gas pipe sediment trap tail at the bottom of the gas pipe run. ...also that's not double wall B-vent and can't be within 1" of the studs as it penetrates that wall to the garage.
You came to check the furnace yet you took time to inspect around and found this. You may have saved their lives man.
That rot does not look like it's because of the vent. If you notice it's too far off the path of the hot humid exhaust. That water/rot is more likely coming from the floor/wall junction above. There's not much evidence of moisture damage in the joists spaces above the trajectory of the flue or at least not evident from the video. Yes it's colder at the rim joists because of thermal bridging but you should see more rot over the entire width of the rim joists. Notice how the water seems to travel along the plywood/joists junctions getting worse and wider as it gets closer to the outside wall. Also note the algae around that foundation wall penetration. Looks like some kind of major ongoing water ingress from the outside or a plumbing leak in that wall though I don't see any supplies/drains coming up from the basement.
My thought too I’ve had a water heater disconnected from vent running a long time and not really ever seen mine drip water or cause that much damage or rot. It’s fixed now but yeah I think you’re right
Or might be because it is basement and there’s water pooling on foundation or getting in?
I have seen similar on exterior walls (as we seem to have here), due to failed / poorly installed stucco over wood sheathing. So I agree that the damage to the subfloor is not strictly due to the water heater being improperly vented.
Wow, wasn't expecating to see it venting into their house!! Did you find out if there was a vent to the outside that got cut off? Looks like there might have been an exhaust on that outside concrete wall? Curious what the conclusion was even though 2 years ago
How could they not have the typical dizziness without Carbon Monoxide build up..
First you didn’t notice that the incoming natural gas supply doesn’t have a drip-T prior to entering the water heater.
Here in California we require a double wall vent pipe (Metal Bestos) extending above the roof line at least 2 feet.
Some areas do have through the wall venting if the building codes in that area accepts this type of venting.
Also if in a garage area one should have a water heater with a standing pilot 18” above garage level unless they have a newer type enclosed burner assembly.
Oh, there is more! The union should be next to the gas control valve and there is no T or drip foot at the lowest point. It always amazes me what people ignore apparently going through life unaware of their surroundings.
venting it into there home holly crap!
Their*
WOW .......SCARY!!!!
Free mushroom farm and exhaust-vaping bar with any water-heater installation.
What are the stack temperatures of a non condensing gas fired hot water heater?
Depends on water heater size, how often its used, temp settings and length of vent.. if its a real long and squirrelly route of a vent, well used, 40ga set to 140°f the exhaust vent temp right at the water heater side of the stack will get close to 140° . Same deal not used as much probably will get to 120..
There are many problems with this install. The area it vents into is actually a family room converted into a gym; such irony.
No shit. We gathered that by the video 🤷🏽♂️
It's actually Amazing that this wasn't a
"THIS is what Killed an Entire Family"
Video! Right? But, did any of the people living there say they were Sick 😷
Or had Symptoms of Poisoning Breathing in all that Invisible, Oderless, Tasteless, Deadly Gas for such a Long Time? 🤔
Is venting out the roof the only option for atmospheric venting gas water heaters? Was wondering ifi could go straight out the wall with mine ?
Or can i convert it to except a blower and make it power vent style?
Thank you
If you'd like to out through the wall, I'd recommend a power vented; whether a tank style or tankless- installed professionally... not a fan of fan assisted "natural draft" setups.
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Thank you.
I since have changed over to a power vent model.
No carbon monoxide detectors?
Yep, many issues with this appliance.
Quite a lot violation for venting and appliance installation, you definitely get a big ticket from TSSA inspection in Ontario
Who does that... unbelievable
Wow!
It's actually Amazing that this wasn't a
"THIS is what Killed an Entire Family"
Video! Right? But, did any of the people living there say they were Sick 😷
Or had Symptoms of Poisoning Breathing in all that Invisible, Oderless, Tasteless, Deadly Gas for such a Long Time? 🤔
My heater installed 6 mo ago.
AND NO VENTATION !!! (Multiple problems,.biut NOTHING connected, venting into house.
Got 2nd plumber in for another reason who,.thankfully discovered. it. Just a large gaping vent to my house. (Wondering why Ive had no energy, brain fog,.headache,.and have been losing weight w/o.trying.)
Installed by ykung, unlicensed guy, but tbey never got permit, or bad a licensed plumber come by to check the work. (I did t know it was requkred.)
Other plumber bad to stay bere to be sure first.company. came back to fix it rigjht. Company owner gave cocky answer that he is not interested in suggestion that TNEY compenaate my other plumber that I had to pay. If not for second plumber I would never have known to tell them to f/u w inspection and permit.
brotherskeeper kenney thankfully, it sounds like you were able to get things taken care of! Sorry to hear you had to go through something like that to begin with.
Wow
No gas pipe sediment trap tail at the bottom of the gas pipe run.
...also that's not double wall B-vent and can't be within 1" of the studs as it penetrates that wall to the garage.
Ooooooooooh.
Myyyyyyyyyyy.
Gaaaaaaaaaawd.
Oh my gosh, how much poisonous gas did these people inhale?
Its a wonder these people didnt die from carbon monoixide poisoning,,,,its a Miracle,,,,,!!!! Thank God the got a licensed contractor to correct it!
Dang 😮😮
OMG! What the hell?
I've seen that type of venting before where it goes into the house ,it's called "Divorce"
Dominick Martin 🤔😢😁🥺
Where is the dirt leg???