Timemore's Latest Hand Coffee Grinders | Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Lets look at Timemore's C3 / C3 PRO and The Chestnut ESP
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The only thing I wanted to know was how long it took to grind the beans. You edited the grinding and neglected to tell us the time required!
for espresso, I like Kinu and Comandnate but they are a bit too expensive, I hope to find something more affordable.
Thank you for description on Timemore handgrinders. Is there any information from Timemore on Chestnut C3, how many micron is for one click? Let's say start from zero,than at 10clicks equivalent to what size? Hope my question is clear enough,thank you.
83,3 for c3 and 23,3 for esp
Great video, Got my just after Labor day last September and I can't recommend it enough even though there weren't any reviews back then I took a chance. I will add it has a great burr compared to so many others, the E&B burr and the bumpy but not spiky body makes it easy and comfy to use & produce great results although I haven't tried the upper end electrics like niche but way better than the Breville I used
The E&B burr was actually an old burr, it was the same burr that used in the Timemore Slim Plus, E&B is stands for espresso and brew.
I'm stuck between Chestnut C3 MAX Pro and Chestnut G1 Plus, what's your recommendation?
If I'm only going to buy one, mostly for pour-over coffee, but sometimes maybe for Italian stovetop espresso, which one would you get? Is the C3 ESP Pro best for all applications, but just a little more expensive? Or is the C3S Pro somehow better for pour over coffee?
Both of them have the same grinder so both are good for that. The difference on the ESP its more accurate dial for clicks
@@hache_10 i agree, i just bought the esp its going to be my main grinder for a while so needed the versatility, looking forward experamenting with my v60, aeropress and espresso machine
Im waiting for coffee parts black friday to finally buy my c3 ESP. Please Pedro! do a nice discounts and maybe I could get Varia VS3 instead 😄
We just started Black Friday sales, yet don't have the C3 ESP on sale...
In saying that, email the team and I will get them to look after you on the C3 ESP!
It's a really cool hand grinder :)
PS. Have already let the team know and I think you will like the discount they will give you :)
Awesome video! Informative as well! Keep it up!
Appreciate it!
Don't you find the squeezing noise annoying when opening the bottom container?
I always wonder why people use 2 cups when they’re alone. Is it because it looks cool? Lol
How good is the timemore esp compared to the jx pro which costs $20 more in US?
this is the review I crave. Finding the cheapest grinder that can produce great results for espresso. I've been doing so much research to get to the bottom of this, and I'm at exactly these two now.
@@KyleBaker can this esp version be used for moka pot or pour over ?
@@slambergamer91 it claims to be made for espresso. It may also have the range to do course enough for moka pot but I can't be sure.
Hey will the Chestnut be Fine for a Mokka pot?
Can they do Turkish coffee grind?
I don't think it does according to description 🤔, as for Turkish you need finest grind, and this one barely does the espresso size well enough. I'm not speaking from experience, as I'm also currently looking for the right grinder
Probably on the C3 but you might have to go to like 2-3 clicks which is not ideal
How does the C3 (Pro) and ESP compare in time needed to grind 20g? Unfortunately, the grinding time was cutted in the video.
And how does the ESP compare to the X-Lite? What's the difference? They got a pretty similar design (if not the same case) and differ just 5€ in price. The X-Lite burr looks slightly different and has one more axis.
I use an ESP twice a day everyday. I run a mix of dark roast and med dark roast 15g of beans in approx 45 seconds without thinking about it. It produces very nice fluffy grinds! I tried the 1Zpresso JX pro and really did not enjoy it, for all the hype...when it came to espresso it just didn't seem as easy to turn or to get the right grind. Also tried the timemore chestnut C2 w/o folding handle which wasn't bad but harder to dial in for sure with really only one setting that worked alright. The ESP dialed in so easy and as I said, very easy to grind. Had my daughter do it a few times and she agreed. She's an adult but suppose a kid could do it fairly easy 🙂
@@fmarccharles hi there, thanks for your reply.
I'm using the Chestnut C2 (with the fixed handle) for approx. 18months now. And grinding (mostly) Espresso 3-4 times a day is getting quite tedious (and my burr set isn't as sharp as it used to be). 😅 Nevertheless, it's a pretty nice grinder, especially for the money!
That's why I was so excited when I read about the ESP. I also contacted Timemore directly, and they stated the ESP is clearly Espresso focused, while the X-Lite is specialized on pour-over.
I was thinking about the 1zpresso, too. But I never liked their design and they face some lawsuits because they seem to steal some Commandante patents.
Therefore, I'll get an ESP myself next. ✌️
@@fmarccharles This may be the comment that lets me decide; finding a comparison between these two that is in depth would be amazing, thanks for sharing even just this little bit of info!
@@KyleBaker so as an update, while 8m using a Gaggia classic Pro, my oldest daughter inherited my DiLonghi Dedica 685 and is using it with a bottomless portafilter and proper basket grinding with the C2. She likes it a lot, it does a good job but easier to adjust by dose size instead of grind because the grind steps just are a bit large. Esp seems to make fluffier grinds but I think you can order the same burr on C2 though at that costs ESP is more attractive
I did an inordinate amount of research on this, and even more after that comment. The chestnut X introduced their high end espresso focused burr, the S2C. Similarly, they upgraded their old steel burrs to a new design called E&B on other models.
More recently, the C3 got a smaller version of the S2C burrs, and the X lite seems to actually have come out with an upgraded version of the S2C burrs; yes, the X lite, while inferior in every other way, seems to grind better according to Timemore's own analysis, by using slightly narrower tips on the top of the star shape on their burrs.
The ESP, irritatingly, using the E&B burrs. For some reason they throw in the "S2C" terminology in the promotional materials as well, but it looks just like an E&B when I see it in pics and videos, and it has E&B stamped onto it when you see unboxing vids (while the x lite shows S2C stamped onto it's burrs). The ESP seemed to have like 50 clicks of adjustment which also seems like not enough. The X lite also has a problem here, which 48 clicks... That'll be better than your C2, but still not really reasonably able to dial in. So the $300+ chestnut X is the only grinder in their range with a really suitable dial for espresso...
I really didn't want to spend more than 50-100, but it just doesn't look like there's a truly good espresso grinder under $170, which is the 1zpresso X Pro, with 12~ microns per click and good performance at fine grinds; at that point, though, might as well just get the J Max, which is seemingly the second best espresso hand grinder money can buy, since I'm mostly buying this for espresso, and the days I don't drink espresso I use a moka pot. J Max has 8~micron clicks, coated burrs that should last 5x~ longer, and a few other nice touches.
I even considered a chestnut X now that I've been walked up the price ladder this far and I like the chestnut x aesthetically so much more, and am intrigued by their burrs, but for some reason no comparison video really says they loved the X coffee, weirdly. Meanwhile, the X lite has better burrs, but not sufficient dial in, and has not been featured in any comparison reviews... And once I found out the ESP had E&B burrs, I gave up on it. Also no comparison reviews, and still not really enough clicks to make me happy, anyways...
Since I just bought a 9Barista, and that's the reason I'm in the market, it seems silly to consider getting a grinder that will hold it back I really wanted to go with timemore-far better aesthetics (1zpresso have frankly awful visual design, they are not called out on this enough), and that S2C burrs tech does seem compelling and their analysis results look promising... But I just can't convince myself to take the risk. Looks like I'll be going with 1zpresso J Max.
Timemore C3 or Normcore?
I want to start a business using this grinder.. can this thing hold up to all thr abuse? Or this is quite fragile
I got a C3S Pro, and this thing is absolutely solid. I’m not sure how the screw threadings on the grounds canister would hold up after repeated actuations, and I don’t know how the mechanical bits would last in day to day repeated use, but it seems really solid to me.
Just keep a blower of some kind to clear the thing out after you use it.
I wouldn't to be honest. It's just not built for that
You want to start a business using a handheld grinder? I assume it's going to be very small with just some family to serve?
Anybody knows does timemore has plans for esp version with folding handle (like in pro)?
Haven't had word yet, But will kept you posted if we hear anything :)
They are available in indonesia, C3ESP PRO i think its about 110$ in dollar, and gonna grab that soon!
Good information, but the presentation would be better without the continual hand gestures and the background 'music'.
We don’t mess with straight up Chinese brands bro, keep it pushing.
Respectfully, could you explain why?
@@needmorebeans supporting Chinese industry means undermining western competitiveness and hegemony. I do not wish to see national champions hollowed out by inferior Chinese goods that are just cheaper but do not contribute or honor the history and culture of whatever industry they are dumping their slave labor goods into.
@@lenovo7999 Your response involves a lot of speculation and may be underscored by preconceived notions of what Chinese companies and manufacturing is like. I'm not sure if you've visited Timemore or any of these other companies' facilities before but I can assure you that they aren't operated by slave labour nor money-grabbing corporations that don't contribute or honour the specialty coffee scene.
@@needmorebeans one is free to ignore the obvious effect of china’s meteoric rise on its neighbors, industry and geopolitics preferring to keep the cheap goods coming.
@@lenovo7999 the US is as bad