I love the lore about secret bosses. Both Jevil and Spamton met "someone" and they've started to act weird after that. What is even more interesting is that after defeating Spamton Neo, near his shop few guys appear, and they tell the player Spamton's story. They say that he got help after talking with "someone", but when that "someone" left them, Spamton's products weren't selling that good again, and he left his room in Queen's Mansion, leaving the phone hanging. The last guy that talks about Spamton's past says that he heard someone on the other side of the phone, but when he put it to his ear he heard nothing but garbage noise. That would be just creepy, if not the fact that when we try to use our cell phone while in Dark World, the game literally says that there's nothing but garbage noise. And that garbage noise is the same sound like in entry number 17. Strange, isn't it?
Plus the fact that entry 17's audio is called "Smile" and that smiling is what Kris does when they get rid of their soul. (And that smile that appears on the TV at the end)
@@KimiOmega mega spoilers if you havent played completely through yet / / / / / / / / at the end of chapter 2 when toriel's house gets filled with smoke(?) the tv turns on with static, something associated with gaster from what i've seen in alot of fan projects like last breath and stuff, but in that static also appears a smile
What's funny is that Jevil and Spamton Neo are both Toby holding back on the difficulty. I'm scared to imagine Toby going all out on difficulty in Chapter 7's Freedom boss....
We already know how ham he can go with Sans. If the trend of having 7 different colored souls for 7 chapters secret bosses happens, can't wait for when it turns blue.....*cough* plz be Gaster.
@@jafidayman4832 Let's be real here, he held back with Sans too. By the time we get to the end of Deltarune, the secret bosses will have skyrocketed past the funny skeleton in difficulty. Toby Fox is a Touhou fan, and I fully expect Touhou levels of difficulty from the later secret bosses.
@@jafidayman4832 My theory is that Papyrus is gonna be the secret boss for the blue soul chapter, personally. He turns your soul blue, and he might get to use his special attack(s)...
@@jafidayman4832 I honestly hope it isn't Gaster. At this point, I don't think anything can be as satisfying/interesting as what we can come up with in our imaginations by filling in the blanks. I do hope we get SOME closure to Gaster's identity, but I still mostly want it to be a mystery.
@@GODofTimewaste2 Same. Gasters appeal was always the mystery, having him actually show up as a full character would kinda just ruin it. There’s a reason why he’s one of the most popular characters despite his presence amounting to a handful of Easter eggs, two of which may or may not actually show him.
God this song is so chaotically messy, and so fun. It’s fitting for this epic boss fight, and just a blast. This will definitely be the song I come back to the most from chapter two other than “WELCOME TO THE CITY” and “A Cyber’s World?!”.
If you like WELCOME TO THE CITY may i suggest you go listen to 74 by Itoki Hana ? This music leit motif is a reference to 74 a song in which Toby Fox sings and made the instrumental of :)
@@alsparkproductions7849 no he only didn't want to have a extremely difficult fight that would drain resourses, before sans. I still think Mettaton NEO deserved his own genocide fight
I feel like the glitchy sporadic nature of the song fits well with fighting a corrupted program using an old rusted and nearly broken Mettaton NEO body
@@Cam_Can_Play it’s more likely that mettaton made it using a photoshop tool but never went through with it like swatch says if you talk to him after beating Spamton NEO
Spamton after downloading Mettaton NEO’s remains off the internet or something: Hello, [[Mettaton NEO]] how would you like to be a [[Big Shot]] Mettaton NEO’s soulless remains: Spamton: Great! All I need now is that great sweet lovely [[Hyperlink Blocked]]
Spamton having motifs related to Jevil tells me that each secret messed up character that has interacted with Gaster will have that reoccuring leitmotif and since both of the secret bosses have had ties to Gaster AND have a theme about freedom im gonna place my money of each secret character having some connection to Gaster.
Well it's confirmed that he went nuts after receiving a call which, according to other salesmen, only had 'garbage noise' coming from it, the exact description used to describe the Gaster-associated 'smile.ogg' when the player attempts to use their cell in the dark world.
@@michaeldreemurrandhisaus2165 if you go back to spamtons trash alley after his death, you’ll find the other advertisements lamenting his passing. Talk to them in order and you’ll be able to piece together a story. Apparently, Spamton used to be a regular advertisement, but he was really down on his luck, having to literally sleep in dumpsters. But one day, he got a call from someone, and they apparently gave him directions. He followed those directions, and his business skyrocketed. He was the most popular and rich advertisement to the point where he even got his own room in the Queen’s castle. But just as suddenly as the calls started coming, they one day just... stopped. Spamton lost it, he wasn’t sure what to do, and he couldn’t maintain his business. Everything fell apart right before his eyes, and he had seemingly been corrupted from the voice on the phone. He was set to be ejected from the Queen’s castle. He spent the last days he was allowed in his room, desperately calling numbers to no avail. One of the advertisements claims to have been jealous of Spamton’s success at the time, and managed to sneak into his room and got on the phone with the man supposedly giving him directions, but to his surprise, there was no voice, only “garbage noise” as he called it. Coincidentally, you’ll notice if you use your cell phone in the dark world, then you’ll just hear gaster noises, followed by the prompt, “it was nothing but garbage noise.” This seems to imply that the calls Spamton was getting were coming from Gaster, and even more interestingly, the same ones you’re getting. Another interesting detail is the “wrong number song,” from Undertale, which may actually be linked to this mystery. If you’ll recall, the caller was apparently hoping to reach someone who’s name started with a G. People have speculated the caller is trying to reach Gaster, meaning this could possibly be Spamton on the phone, somehow, from an alternate timeline. Alternatively, it’s interesting to note that Spamton’s full name is actually “Spamton G. Spamton.” Perhaps it was Gaster trying to reach Spamton.
@@elsansquegira9310 That might just be a reference since the song's called "Power of NEO" but I like to think Spamton is somehow connected to Deltarune Mettaton. SpamTON. MettaTON. Am I thinking too hard?
Kris got goosebumps after the fight with spamton NEO. If I didn't know any better, I would assume this indicates he's afraid because of the fact he's in a situation exactly like spamton's-- Only, his friends can't cut his strings.
Now that I think about it, that’s cursed, whenever we play a video game, we are controlling a character, like actually controlling them, they could have had a life of their own, but we started controlling them like a puppet on the strings
So, anyone else noticed how in both Pacifist and Snowgrave routes, Kris just... used the Yellow Soul mode on command? Like, they either instinctively did it in order to survive or somehow knew it beforehand? In Undertale, Frisk's soul either changed modes because of the enemy's ability or was taught how to it, but here they just knew how to do it. No other enemy in either chapter changed our Soul Modes so far. What else are you trying to tell us, Toby?
It's the same soul as from undertale Same reason why we can say to sans "it's great to see you again" when kris as never met him Or why we can mention alphys to undyne in chapter 1
Just beat this boss on my Pacifist run, and now this track is stuck in my head lol, so many themes mashed together here. I like the correlation to Mettaton as well; both wanting to be a star and make it big, so they look for a strong body, becoming power-hungry in the process. And they are both puppets, Mettaton in a more figurative sense
Ok so so far i've seen nobody talks about the fact that the empty hard drive , the place where you get it, t's quite literaly mettaton neo remains, so spamton is infecting and taking control over mettaton neo body
@@shocktornado7110 and how the hell did the body even get there? There is some connection between the undertale universe since the body was constructed only in the undertale universe, also it seems like the boss has the power of neo themes that only play on genocide?? So this is a new mystery to solve
So I just watched a summary of Deltarune Chapter 2's Genocide, or "Snowgrave", route, quite a lot of things are different, up to and including Spamton's role in the chapter. A lot of the tragedy and insight to his character are gone, and you don't even see his normal/original form, you only see him at the very end, right when you're about to seal the fountain (after briefly going through Pandora Palace, that has been taken over by him), trying to stop you from sealing the fountain as Spamton NEO, because if you do that, he'll no longer have this newly obtained power. He spends most of the fight chastising Kris for their actions in the game, as well as trying to screw him over like this. Also worth noting that, unlike the regular Spamton fight, there's no option to cut his strings, all you can do is attack him. Then, right up until he reaches 10% or less of his health, he activates an ability he doesn't display in the regular fight, increasing his defense so high that he can't be defeated. Kris's ACT menu then has images of Ralsei and Susie show up, and Kris calls for their help... ...but nobody came. (sound familiar?) Spamton then gloats about how no one is coming to help Kris after what they've done, and this goes on until Noelle's icon shows up in the ACT menu. Then you, that is "You", the player, not Kris, quietly say Noelle's name. Spamton once again gloats about what we've done to Noelle and thinks there's nothing they can do to stop him... before mentioning how suddenly cold it is. Cut to black, several ice attacks noises are heard and damage output noises are seen, then Kris's soul silently seals the fountain. It's kind of amazing how context completely changes how one views a character. Without the sudden tragic end to Spamton's fight or the dialogue in his shop about who he was or what he used to be, Spamton comes off as just another obstacle in your path, one where sympathy or pity doesn't even factor into his characterization. I mean, the creep factor is still there, because Spamton as a whole is kind of creepy, and I'd even go so far as to say having him suddenly and quietly killed off-screen, by Noelle of all people, is another underlying creep factor to it. Of course, that's not to say Spamton isn't still interesting despite given a lot less to work with, since he's still the one to go to to ensure you keep on track for this Genocide/Snowgrave route, in order to get the Thorn Ring needed to progress, acting as the count meter like the one in Undertale's Genocide run. It's just fascinating to reflect on how differently you come across him depending on what's done in the game.
What's more unsettling is what he tells you during that fight. About how you've been "making" Noelle, and now that you've got your own supply of [[hyperlink blocked]] you don't need him anymore. We can't kill enemies as Kris and the others, so a "genocide route" is off the table. Noelle, however, seems to be different. Her ice spells actually freeze enemies solid. He keeps going on about how "...making [frozen chicken] with your [side chick] is going to let you drink that [sweet sweet] [freedom sauce]". No matter which way you play this, chapter 3 is definitely going to be a major turning point in the story.
It should also be noted that in Deltarune, specifically in both Spamton NEO fights, it’s more explored in-depth that the character you control, as in Frisk and Kris are two different entities. Kris is clearly creeped out by Spamton, and during Berdly, Noelle keeps insisting that she doesn’t know Snowgrave, despite our selecting it. My headcanon is we control the SOUL, not the character (even in Undertale, Frisk will do things without our commanding them, like hiding behind the lamp.) Additionally, we can control the SOUL when Kris rips it out of theirselves at the end of each chapter.
@@hansonkerman7286 Kris is completely unfazed by Spamton during the first encounter, until he mentions his [HeartShapedObject], at which point Kris takes a noticeable step backwards. Kris being his own entity separate from the player is pretty much 100% confirmed. When it comes to actual _headcanon_ stuff, well... At the end of Undertale's genocide route, Chara implores you to "...erase this pointless world, and move on to *the next.* " And now, in Deltarune, we're once again controlling a red heart...
@@hoppefrosk frick, now I’m thinking that our controlling of Kris’s red [[HeartShapedObject]] is due to LOVE-influenced Chara oh no we’ve just been egging them on by playing the Snowgrave route oh god oh frick
I think this is when Kris finally snaps, as he's met someone whose just like him, a innocent person driven to the brink by an unknown force, both of them just someone else's puppet
I love how Toby does this kind of weird/disturbing enemies, they're creepy without being bloody or throwing curses. Recently like a meta comment saying that this is a numbers game and mostly all the dialogue of spamton with Cris yelling after the other fight because of cutting strings, it's some sort of deeper disturbing
It’s amazing how well Toby put everything together, compare undertale and you can see how much Toby grew. I mean the only real horror scene that got a good fright outa me was the “You think you are in control?” Ending to undertale. But my god Spamton Neo and Snowgrave really are some of the best horror I’ve seen in a long time.
Something to note is that Flowey and Chara don’t speak to Frisk, they speak directly to us, the player. My headcanon is that we control not Frisk/Kris, but their red [[HeartShapedObject]]. It’s what we use to select choices, e.g. Snowgrave, despite Noelle insisting she doesn’t know it… Kris, on some level knows he’s a puppet like Spamton, and that’s why he has “goosebumps” after the fight with Spamton NEO in the normal route. Spamton wanted so desperately to be free, but he can’t snap his strings. (They’re made of a much more powerful substance… meta-knowledge :P)
Honestly first time seeing Omega Flowery also gave me a good scare. Not in the sense of jumpscare/actually gutting horror but in the sense of horrified foreboding, suspense and dread.
@@localidiot450 because it’s now a leitmotif in both of the hidden bosses’ themes and they both have been driven to madness by presumably the same entity
Personally I found this fight in the Snowgrave route much more engaging, I feel a lot of people are just writing it off as impossible but it really isn't, it's just like Sans in the sense that it's all about learning the moves, when I finally defeated him I was able to get almost halfway through the fight without taking any damage, and finally defeating him was extremely satisfying, I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed the fight during Pacifist, even if at a first glance it looks impossible. Here's some advice if someone needs it: - Don't even try attacking him normally, you should only be doing damage through X-Slashes, and every turn that you can't do an X-Slash is either a turn you should be healing or defending in order to do an X-Slash the next turn. - Chances are earlier in the chapter you got a Tension Bit, now's the time to use it, I always use it on the first turn and it's really useful because it allows you to do an extra X-Slash at the earlier turns, and in this fight the faster you are able to do damage the better, because you'll have to survive less of the harder attacks later on. - Do NOT shoot the heart during the attacks where his heart starts moving and shooting bullets, as it turns out this is one of the easiest attacks do dodge, and if you don't shoot the heart he keeps doing the move for a long while, allowing you to easily get around 40% to 50% TP in one turn while taking no damage at all. - This might be up to personal preference, but on the attack where you can shoot his eyes, face and mouth, start with the eyes, then move to the mouth and always leave the nose last, because the nose + the eye results in a deadly combination that can easily put you in a position where taking damage is simply unavoidable, thus you should be prioritizing getting rid of one of the two, personally I find the nose on it's own much easier to dodge so I always start with the eyes. - Do NOT use the healing move that costs TP, all your TP must be used for X-Slash, if you really need to heal use a CD Bagel. - I didn't know about this when I beat him, but apparently if you hold enter all the time, all your shots will come out as big shots, I don't know if this is intended or a bug or even if it actually works, but if it does I imagine it should be extremely helpful, especially during the Pipis attacks, since big shots destroy the Pipis in one hit. (Edit: and as a commenter has pointed out, it seems that now he does more damage if you do this)
@@meathir4921 I guess you're right that you should be able to afford it, but still I don't think it should be used carelessly, since for me one of the worst things that can happen in this fight is being unable to use an X-Slash on a turn because you don't have TP, the way I did it after the first turn I could afford it every other turn that I didn't have to heal. Maybe it's up to personal preference, I was just trying to give advise in a way that you waste the least amount of turns possible
I'm taking a very different approach because I'm a fucking masochist. I'm not using the ACT button at all, no defensive items are equiped and I'm using the wooden sword from the start of the game! Sometimes I even enrage him for fun, but it's pretty hard... Longest Attempt: 63% HP Left.
That's because he took over castle during snowgrave, There was no one to stop him from doing so that gave him access to basement (place where his neo form is) he attacks you to stop you from destroying his "Rise to glory"
@@arn3107 If you speak to Swatch after beating Spamton Neo, he'll reveal its origins. Mettaton made it, but lacking opportunity his dream didn't come true. Hence why he's just a sad shut-in ghost now.
So I just learned that in every route except Snowgrave you get to fight Spamton Neo with your entire party. I am in the process of fighting him with only Kris due to being in Snowgrave. Wonderful!
"Spamton turns to the audience and laughs!" "Spamton appeals to the audience with a festive jig!" "Spamton begs to the audience" "Spamton prays to the audience" .... ... .. . *There is no audience.*
In the mess - Here’s what I can pull out Spamton’s theme (Duh) The power of Neo The “Wow” you hear when you finish naming your character in Earthbound/Mother 3 Dummy! The World Revolving Omega Flowey’s Laught Did I miss anything?
This song heavily samples the Mettaton NEO and Ghost themes because, guess what the body you pry the Disc from and that Spamton takes over IS Mettaton NEO.
“ITS TIME TO BE A BIG SHOT” “The Air Crackles With freedom” “Spamton Begs The Audience to stop taking the Furniture out of his room” Freedom, That’s all they have longed for, but no matter how long they tried, they never got it
Ok, if I’m counting this correctly Leitmotifs for world revolving, mad dummy, battle against a true hero, and spear of justice can be heard Then it uses soundfonts from ghost fight/mad dummy, mettaton neo, and spear of justice. It’s gotta have SOME lore significance, right?
The logic is that he is a blend of everything your mind has conjured up in this fake reality. He is the anathema to creative consistency. A true wild card and a rogue vying for control.
Is it just me, or are the superbosses getting easier? Sans took me hundreds of attempts to beat. Jevil took me a couple dozen. Spamton NEO took me...only one.
Skill man, skill! By challenging tougher opponents, you've mastered the art of dodging more and more, so you're more capable of handling battles like this.
@@Pinkanator this. Sans' fight was mostly muscle memory, but Jevil's fight was about adaptability and focus, with far more random elements. Also...if you've fought Spamton this soon after the game came out, I imagine that you've already got Sans and Jevil under your belt, which is more than you could say when you fought them.
Something about the sound quality of certain instruments and the crunchiness of the voiceclips gives this the feeling of a PA speaker at a train station Nevermind the actual railroad tracks the non-snowgrave run version of the fight takes place on
1:07 "I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until you are all alone. He pulls the strings and makes them rings, can't tell you how much it's ringing. I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until you are all alone, He pulls the strings He pulls the strings I'll tell you what you big shot!"
Honestly, I was surprised at how many Undertale references are in the Spamton NEO fight, especially this song. The intro is a lot like Power of NEO, Power of NEO itself is sampled, and there’s a hint of the best part of Dummy!/Ghost Fight.
Guys at 1:07 I think there’s lyrics “Please Mike answer the phone” “Hands on the top” “Pull the strings and make them ring” I couldn’t translate the last sentence it seemed too distorted. Edit: I think the last one says “don’t you wanna be free?” For anyone who doesn’t know, there is an advertisement from 1997 about Big shot soda from a former football player named Mike. Spamton commonly says “Mike” “1997” and “BIG SHOT” frequent.
1:47 it plays the a short part of the song dummy! from undertale. the reason is that since spamton was treated like a puppet or shall say dummy for the real threat of deltarune.
1:08 Lyrics (My Guess) "I think he's coming for me answer the phone, I can't explain until you're all alone, pull the strings and make them ring until your heart gets ripped out! I think he's coming for me answer the phone, I can't explain until you're all alone, pull the strings and pull the strings and TELL YOU WHAT YOU BIG SHOT!
Meh, I don’t think Gaster will be in DR. I personally think it was the Knight (who is not Gaster), and he will be a recurring villain for all the hidden bosses. He’s quite obviously the Big Bad in DR (just ask Vriska! She pointed out there’s always a bigger bad to take down), and he clearly has some mysterious motives. As for the man behind the tree, I also don’t think it’s Gaster, as we know so little about him that I could make a list about the things we know about him. 1. Well, he is behind the tree. 2. He might recognize and be happy to see you. 3. He has at least 2 eggs, probably 8. 4. He offers you an egg. 5. His eggs are not too important, not too unimportant. 6. Well, he is not here anymore.
@@hansonkerman7286 you realize the knight is kris, right? When the queen is talking about the knight, it shows a hand with a knife. When kris spazzes out he uses his knife to create a new dark well.
@@AlexSmith-tp7xu personally I’m not quite sure that the spazzing out at the end of ch2 was making a dark fountain. what it IS is tbd, but I’m expecting another anticlimax like the end of ch1. raise your hand if you thought it was genocide^2: beyond genocide. Yep. Thought so.
@@hansonkerman7286 it is gaster, no question. If you go back to the dumbster heap after defeating spamton neo a bunch of shopkeepers will appear to tell you his backstory. The last one will tell you that the phone that spamton always used had "nothing but garbage noise". If you try to use your phone in the dark world there will be "nothing but garbage noise". That garbage noise is the sound effect of entry 17 which directly related to gaster basically confirming that is in fact him who called spamton and pressumably the one who also made jevil mad. And how is kris not the kinght? He literally made something that looks exactly like a fountain. Of course it can all be some kind of dream and not be real but if that's not the case he's definetely the knight.
1:08 spamton starts talking, and states some REALLY deep lore talking about probably gaster, or whoever he was talking to on the phone which was heard to be "garbage noise". here's what he says : I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until you're all alone, he pull the strings and makes them ring, can't tell you how much it's ringing! I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until we're you're alone, he pulls the strings he pulls the strings, I'll tell you what you BIG SHOT!
I just noticed: around 1:02 you can hear the World revolving. I’ve also noticed that this particular time appears all over the game, possibly linking Jevil to a lot of things
now's your chance to be a big shot! wait i just realized jevil is a big shot he makes a devils knife the size of a screen and he actually transforms into devilsknife
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Undertale fans: it would've been pretty cool to have an actual fight with mettaton neo
A small annoying dog:
Hold my pipis
spamton neo is what we all thought mettaton neo was gonna be
@@Darkishappy_2872 I mean your not wrong
Wait I found 2 videos with this song but one of them was different
does he have different music when your fighting by the fountain?
@@Moald nope
although he has different music for his normal battle
I love the start
It's like Toby was seriously making a song, and then said "oh wait, this is for spamton"
LOL. this is too funny
He is like damn this is gonna go hard then he realizes it's spamton and he is like damn this will still gonna go hard
Lmao I like to imagine this
Brother.
@@villager5611 Greetings.
“OH SOMEONES CALLING.”
“WHAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?”
“IT’S FOR YOU.”
Pipis
"SOMEONE'S CALLING!"
"ITS FOR ME?"
*Gets blasted in the face*
it gets funnier each time
I think its a reference to the "pipis room" Vine
@@cheezus5711 pipis
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I love the lore about secret bosses. Both Jevil and Spamton met "someone" and they've started to act weird after that. What is even more interesting is that after defeating Spamton Neo, near his shop few guys appear, and they tell the player Spamton's story. They say that he got help after talking with "someone", but when that "someone" left them, Spamton's products weren't selling that good again, and he left his room in Queen's Mansion, leaving the phone hanging. The last guy that talks about Spamton's past says that he heard someone on the other side of the phone, but when he put it to his ear he heard nothing but garbage noise. That would be just creepy, if not the fact that when we try to use our cell phone while in Dark World, the game literally says that there's nothing but garbage noise. And that garbage noise is the same sound like in entry number 17. Strange, isn't it?
Plus the fact that entry 17's audio is called "Smile" and that smiling is what Kris does when they get rid of their soul.
(And that smile that appears on the TV at the end)
@@KimiOmega I just hope if they reveal gaster, that he looks like the mystery man because I'm so used to seeing him like that lol
The funny man does the experiments on the VM again and again and again and again and again and again.....
@@KimiOmega mega spoilers if you havent played completely through yet
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at the end of chapter 2 when toriel's house gets filled with smoke(?) the tv turns on with static, something associated with gaster from what i've seen in alot of fan projects like last breath and stuff, but in that static also appears a smile
actually nvm you mentioned it im blind
Absolutely loving the reoccurring themes of freedom
I to seek freedom I have been locked up in my dad’s basement for 4 weeks pls send help
@@crabblab91 are you the secret chapter 4 boss
@@crabblab91 so chapter 4 will be in the basement of your home? nice
Help one of my comrades started The Roaring and now the titans are taking over
@@conniefan123 are you the chapter 5 boss?
You don't need friends!! I can make my hands into phones!!!
*hands blow up*
“I’m… out of phones”
That attack is the worst lol
@@Goomba456 So terrifying, I love him
I THINK I'M GONNA HAVE A [HEART ATTACK]!!
@@byebyeinmariovoice HOLY [[Cungadero]] DO I FEEL GOOD
What's funny is that Jevil and Spamton Neo are both Toby holding back on the difficulty.
I'm scared to imagine Toby going all out on difficulty in Chapter 7's Freedom boss....
We already know how ham he can go with Sans. If the trend of having 7 different colored souls for 7 chapters secret bosses happens, can't wait for when it turns blue.....*cough* plz be Gaster.
@@jafidayman4832 Let's be real here, he held back with Sans too. By the time we get to the end of Deltarune, the secret bosses will have skyrocketed past the funny skeleton in difficulty. Toby Fox is a Touhou fan, and I fully expect Touhou levels of difficulty from the later secret bosses.
@@jafidayman4832 My theory is that Papyrus is gonna be the secret boss for the blue soul chapter, personally. He turns your soul blue, and he might get to use his special attack(s)...
@@jafidayman4832 I honestly hope it isn't Gaster.
At this point, I don't think anything can be as satisfying/interesting as what we can come up with in our imaginations by filling in the blanks.
I do hope we get SOME closure to Gaster's identity, but I still mostly want it to be a mystery.
@@GODofTimewaste2 Same. Gasters appeal was always the mystery, having him actually show up as a full character would kinda just ruin it. There’s a reason why he’s one of the most popular characters despite his presence amounting to a handful of Easter eggs, two of which may or may not actually show him.
When i cut that last string, i was so frightened. Creepiest boss so far.
same...the way he just breaks. Also seems to had an impact on the mind of kris..
Still not as creepy as the events of the genocide route; I won't dare to go through that shit myself by any means whatsoever.
Same
Nothing but a garbage noise..
@@totallybosk2896 love how they say kris was screaming and they had to calm him down.
God this song is so chaotically messy, and so fun. It’s fitting for this epic boss fight, and just a blast. This will definitely be the song I come back to the most from chapter two other than “WELCOME TO THE CITY” and “A Cyber’s World?!”.
If you like WELCOME TO THE CITY may i suggest you go listen to 74 by Itoki Hana ? This music leit motif is a reference to 74 a song in which Toby Fox sings and made the instrumental of :)
@@milevapuentedura831 yea I’ll definitely check it out then.
[BIG SHOT] YES
god cyber city music is a big bop
What about Pandora Palace
Toby: mettaton Neo doesn’t deserve his own fight.
Toby now: Here you go! the mettaton Neo fight you wanted.
Did he really said that? Poor mettaton lol
He doesn't like to disappoint his fans.
*sans in smash bros*
*the "mettaton neo" fight we wanted*
@@alsparkproductions7849 no he only didn't want to have a extremely difficult fight that would drain resourses, before sans. I still think Mettaton NEO deserved his own genocide fight
Actually he thought Undertale would get way to difficult with a difficult mettaton and sans fight back to back, so he nerfed mettaton.
@@lipegd4741 oh wait sorry about commenting the exact same thing
You can clearly hear the Mettaton Neo theme in the background in certain parts. This wears its “Here’s your Mettaton Neo fight you wanted”
nvm found it
YES XD
Mettaton Neo's battle theme is called "Power of Neo", so it makes sense that it would be used in some way for Spamton Neo as well.
I feel like the glitchy sporadic nature of the song fits well with fighting a corrupted program using an old rusted and nearly broken Mettaton NEO body
@@Cam_Can_Play it’s more likely that mettaton made it using a photoshop tool but never went through with it like swatch says if you talk to him after beating Spamton NEO
Hello original jevil
I don't think it's really Mettaton Neo's body, if you look closely there's a lot of differences between the two bodies
@@Mr_Accurate the first difrence is that is not thr same head
@@hashasquiowo9171 noo fool I said in the body not the headd
“SOMEONES CALLING”
…
“IT’S FOR ME.”
Gets Blasted By Small Spamingtons
That gets funnier each time its done
Even in the snow grave route!
@@mrjoetato7866 the WHAT route
@when the sus is imposter
the secret genocide route, where you freeze everyone with Noelle
@@ralsei7820 omg its ralsei
preach your wisdom goat prince
The Mettaton Neo we never had, but the one we needed.
yes
I wonder if Toby is ever gonna release undertale hard mode, imagine genocide and every boss actually fights you
@@mariotheundying There is a hard mode in undertale/UT. Just name your character "Frisk"
@@Horizon-main it's not a full hard mode, it's a demo hard mode (only on the ruins and you can't play past that)
Spamton after downloading Mettaton NEO’s remains off the internet or something: Hello, [[Mettaton NEO]] how would you like to be a [[Big Shot]]
Mettaton NEO’s soulless remains:
Spamton: Great! All I need now is that great
sweet
lovely
[[Hyperlink Blocked]]
Spamton having motifs related to Jevil tells me that each secret messed up character that has interacted with Gaster will have that reoccuring leitmotif and since both of the secret bosses have had ties to Gaster AND have a theme about freedom im gonna place my money of each secret character having some connection to Gaster.
Please tell me what happend when gaster was talking to spamton, i would like to hear the story
Well it's confirmed that he went nuts after receiving a call which, according to other salesmen, only had 'garbage noise' coming from it, the exact description used to describe the Gaster-associated 'smile.ogg' when the player attempts to use their cell in the dark world.
@@michaeldreemurrandhisaus2165 if you go back to spamtons trash alley after his death, you’ll find the other advertisements lamenting his passing. Talk to them in order and you’ll be able to piece together a story.
Apparently, Spamton used to be a regular advertisement, but he was really down on his luck, having to literally sleep in dumpsters. But one day, he got a call from someone, and they apparently gave him directions. He followed those directions, and his business skyrocketed. He was the most popular and rich advertisement to the point where he even got his own room in the Queen’s castle. But just as suddenly as the calls started coming, they one day just... stopped. Spamton lost it, he wasn’t sure what to do, and he couldn’t maintain his business. Everything fell apart right before his eyes, and he had seemingly been corrupted from the voice on the phone. He was set to be ejected from the Queen’s castle. He spent the last days he was allowed in his room, desperately calling numbers to no avail. One of the advertisements claims to have been jealous of Spamton’s success at the time, and managed to sneak into his room and got on the phone with the man supposedly giving him directions, but to his surprise, there was no voice, only “garbage noise” as he called it.
Coincidentally, you’ll notice if you use your cell phone in the dark world, then you’ll just hear gaster noises, followed by the prompt, “it was nothing but garbage noise.” This seems to imply that the calls Spamton was getting were coming from Gaster, and even more interestingly, the same ones you’re getting. Another interesting detail is the “wrong number song,” from Undertale, which may actually be linked to this mystery. If you’ll recall, the caller was apparently hoping to reach someone who’s name started with a G. People have speculated the caller is trying to reach Gaster, meaning this could possibly be Spamton on the phone, somehow, from an alternate timeline. Alternatively, it’s interesting to note that Spamton’s full name is actually “Spamton G. Spamton.” Perhaps it was Gaster trying to reach Spamton.
I assume every secret boss (And probably the "Knight") Will have the Jevil Motif.
@@sptflcrw8583 ok
This guy is a mess and I love him.
@a • 2178 years later shut up noob
@@AuringasLTU average roblox rager
@@sbirk3946 vs a chad youtube user
@@AuringasLTU pretty sure the guy aint a newborn person new to everything the only noob here is your logic :)
I agree tbh
Also your pfp looking like a helluva boss oc
Help this song plays while I'm just living my life and I can't turn it off
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
first reply on a verified comment :)))
7 hours 1 like thts alot
looks like this comment aint goin popular huh
Edit: ...
GIVE ME 918491047201849103882 KROMER AND I WILL [Fix] THIS FOR YOU MY DEAR [Puppet] WHAT WILL IT BE?!
*DEAL* NO DEAL
@@brwigames7498 NO DEAL
Absolutely love the use of motifs! Especially love Omega Flowey's little "tune" playing at the start, but still muffled out.
woooooow, thank you for this information
The use of Dummy! gave me pause.
Thank you!
@@enlongjones2394 yeah, and 1:42 is napstablook? And 2:05 is mettaton neo?! Wow this boss is creepy
@@elsansquegira9310 That might just be a reference since the song's called "Power of NEO" but I like to think Spamton is somehow connected to Deltarune Mettaton.
SpamTON. MettaTON. Am I thinking too hard?
Jevil: I'm the scariest guy in Deltarune.
Spamton: HOLD MY [Deals].
IM THE [BIGGEST SHOT]
HOLD MY [hyperlink blocked].
HOLD MY [KROMER]
TBH, Jevil is much harder than Spamton. Scientific definition.
@@maiwang2040 you know whats harder than both of them?
THE DAMN TEACUP RIDE IN THE BASEMENT BEFORE THE
SPAMTON NEO FIGHT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
game theory: spamton is the wrong number caller in undertale, calling for his master, gaster, the one who made him a [[BIG SHOT]]
i mean its plausible alternate universes exist in undertale and the Fun meter is canon (I think) so it makes sense.
@@makotoyuki5455 considering DR was in development before UT its possible
🤯
Yea probably but since Spamton's full name is Spamton G Spamton the wrong caller wanted to call Spamton
@@Beefaroni_Bert wait, Deltarune was in development BEFORE Undertale?
Kris got goosebumps after the fight with spamton NEO. If I didn't know any better, I would assume this indicates he's afraid because of the fact he's in a situation exactly like spamton's-- Only, his friends can't cut his strings.
And even if they could..... well we saw what happened to Spamton.
"But maybe your strong enough to cut your own strings,Let me become you strength"
Now that I think about it, that’s cursed, whenever we play a video game, we are controlling a character, like actually controlling them, they could have had a life of their own, but we started controlling them like a puppet on the strings
God toby is so good at making fictional games feel real
I'm honestly willing to bet that we, the player, are the final boss. The party fights us. That would be really cool (and incredibly dark)
1:55
Took me a while to notice but there are samples of Omega Flowey’s scream in there.
yoo, i can hear them and it's kinda creepy
I thought those were gnomes
@@RobertTheFoxxo Yo I love the part where Spamton says “Hello there me ol’ [chum]”. Classic Toby Fox.
Holy shit
@@hnickel4757 I think it said "Now's your chance to be a big shot" and "dont you wanna be a big shot?" Instead
I like how everyone accepted that everytime you say [BIG SHOT] you gotta put it in square brackets
*[[BIG SHOT]]
@@theintensecowtrio7099 hey i was gonna say that
THAT WAS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A [[BIG SHOT]] you [[Little sponge]]
BUT I GOT THE [specil] DEAL FOR [[4.99]] KROMER
you didn't put [BIG SHOT] in square brackets
So, anyone else noticed how in both Pacifist and Snowgrave routes, Kris just... used the Yellow Soul mode on command? Like, they either instinctively did it in order to survive or somehow knew it beforehand? In Undertale, Frisk's soul either changed modes because of the enemy's ability or was taught how to it, but here they just knew how to do it. No other enemy in either chapter changed our Soul Modes so far. What else are you trying to tell us, Toby?
It's the same soul as from undertale
Same reason why we can say to sans "it's great to see you again" when kris as never met him
Or why we can mention alphys to undyne in chapter 1
@@placeholder2586 "same soul" is you. It's because of your memories as a player you can say "great to see you again" to Sans.
@@Crazy-Drokon I'm aware I was just trying to phrase it in a way that wouldn't be confusing
It's more like because of the Spamton NEO's presence.
Maybe we do it?
I mean we dont have choice but are still powerful!
Just beat this boss on my Pacifist run, and now this track is stuck in my head lol, so many themes mashed together here.
I like the correlation to Mettaton as well; both wanting to be a star and make it big, so they look for a strong body, becoming power-hungry in the process. And they are both puppets, Mettaton in a more figurative sense
Ok so so far i've seen nobody talks about the fact that the empty hard drive , the place where you get it, t's quite literaly mettaton neo remains, so spamton is infecting and taking control over mettaton neo body
@@shocktornado7110 and how the hell did the body even get there? There is some connection between the undertale universe since the body was constructed only in the undertale universe, also it seems like the boss has the power of neo themes that only play on genocide?? So this is a new mystery to solve
And also i got some Jevils theme vibe which also mean that it want to be free as well its was such a good detail
@@lukitommele3798 Talk to Seam after you beat Spamton NEO, he clears it up pretty well.
@@lukitommele3798 mettaton drew their dream body on ms paint on the computers in the library maybe?
1:47 Its the mad dummy theme! Toby still loves their motifs I see!
"Toby still loves his motifs"
"The sun is hot"
oh yeah
Technically Blooky's theme, but yes, you're correct.
So I just watched a summary of Deltarune Chapter 2's Genocide, or "Snowgrave", route, quite a lot of things are different, up to and including Spamton's role in the chapter. A lot of the tragedy and insight to his character are gone, and you don't even see his normal/original form, you only see him at the very end, right when you're about to seal the fountain (after briefly going through Pandora Palace, that has been taken over by him), trying to stop you from sealing the fountain as Spamton NEO, because if you do that, he'll no longer have this newly obtained power. He spends most of the fight chastising Kris for their actions in the game, as well as trying to screw him over like this. Also worth noting that, unlike the regular Spamton fight, there's no option to cut his strings, all you can do is attack him. Then, right up until he reaches 10% or less of his health, he activates an ability he doesn't display in the regular fight, increasing his defense so high that he can't be defeated. Kris's ACT menu then has images of Ralsei and Susie show up, and Kris calls for their help...
...but nobody came. (sound familiar?)
Spamton then gloats about how no one is coming to help Kris after what they've done, and this goes on until Noelle's icon shows up in the ACT menu. Then you, that is "You", the player, not Kris, quietly say Noelle's name. Spamton once again gloats about what we've done to Noelle and thinks there's nothing they can do to stop him... before mentioning how suddenly cold it is. Cut to black, several ice attacks noises are heard and damage output noises are seen, then Kris's soul silently seals the fountain.
It's kind of amazing how context completely changes how one views a character. Without the sudden tragic end to Spamton's fight or the dialogue in his shop about who he was or what he used to be, Spamton comes off as just another obstacle in your path, one where sympathy or pity doesn't even factor into his characterization. I mean, the creep factor is still there, because Spamton as a whole is kind of creepy, and I'd even go so far as to say having him suddenly and quietly killed off-screen, by Noelle of all people, is another underlying creep factor to it. Of course, that's not to say Spamton isn't still interesting despite given a lot less to work with, since he's still the one to go to to ensure you keep on track for this Genocide/Snowgrave route, in order to get the Thorn Ring needed to progress, acting as the count meter like the one in Undertale's Genocide run. It's just fascinating to reflect on how differently you come across him depending on what's done in the game.
What's more unsettling is what he tells you during that fight. About how you've been "making" Noelle, and now that you've got your own supply of [[hyperlink blocked]] you don't need him anymore. We can't kill enemies as Kris and the others, so a "genocide route" is off the table. Noelle, however, seems to be different. Her ice spells actually freeze enemies solid. He keeps going on about how "...making [frozen chicken] with your [side chick] is going to let you drink that [sweet sweet] [freedom sauce]".
No matter which way you play this, chapter 3 is definitely going to be a major turning point in the story.
this thread is nice
It should also be noted that in Deltarune, specifically in both Spamton NEO fights, it’s more explored in-depth that the character you control, as in Frisk and Kris are two different entities. Kris is clearly creeped out by Spamton, and during Berdly, Noelle keeps insisting that she doesn’t know Snowgrave, despite our selecting it. My headcanon is we control the SOUL, not the character (even in Undertale, Frisk will do things without our commanding them, like hiding behind the lamp.) Additionally, we can control the SOUL when Kris rips it out of theirselves at the end of each chapter.
@@hansonkerman7286 Kris is completely unfazed by Spamton during the first encounter, until he mentions his [HeartShapedObject], at which point Kris takes a noticeable step backwards. Kris being his own entity separate from the player is pretty much 100% confirmed. When it comes to actual _headcanon_ stuff, well...
At the end of Undertale's genocide route, Chara implores you to "...erase this pointless world, and move on to *the next.* " And now, in Deltarune, we're once again controlling a red heart...
@@hoppefrosk frick, now I’m thinking that our controlling of Kris’s red [[HeartShapedObject]] is due to LOVE-influenced Chara oh no we’ve just been egging them on by playing the Snowgrave route oh god oh frick
I think this is when Kris finally snaps, as he's met someone whose just like him, a innocent person driven to the brink by an unknown force, both of them just someone else's puppet
The fact that there is a mix of a lot of music we already heard make it more insane, and i love this
Toby Fox is the master of leitmotifs
I love how Toby does this kind of weird/disturbing enemies, they're creepy without being bloody or throwing curses.
Recently like a meta comment saying that this is a numbers game and mostly all the dialogue of spamton with Cris yelling after the other fight because of cutting strings, it's some sort of deeper disturbing
Kris spelled with a C is cursed also true
Well spamton does curse a lot... Wait you mean a different curse???
The more I listen to this chaotic theme the more I think it's an absolute bop
It’s amazing how well Toby put everything together, compare undertale and you can see how much Toby grew.
I mean the only real horror scene that got a good fright outa me was the “You think you are in control?” Ending to undertale. But my god Spamton Neo and Snowgrave really are some of the best horror I’ve seen in a long time.
Also Toby hitting you with his car
@@butterspike680 I WAS SO CONFUSED WHEN I SAW THAT I THOUGHT I FOUND SOMETHING RARE LIKE A SMALL CHANCE TO GET THAT ROOM
Something to note is that Flowey and Chara don’t speak to Frisk, they speak directly to us, the player. My headcanon is that we control not Frisk/Kris, but their red [[HeartShapedObject]]. It’s what we use to select choices, e.g. Snowgrave, despite Noelle insisting she doesn’t know it… Kris, on some level knows he’s a puppet like Spamton, and that’s why he has “goosebumps” after the fight with Spamton NEO in the normal route. Spamton wanted so desperately to be free, but he can’t snap his strings. (They’re made of a much more powerful substance… meta-knowledge :P)
Honestly first time seeing Omega Flowery also gave me a good scare. Not in the sense of jumpscare/actually gutting horror but in the sense of horrified foreboding, suspense and dread.
Plus, spamton neo and snowgrave don't even rely on jumpscares to be scary, as opposed to the genocide undertale one
0:54 Is this leitmotiv going to be a recurring one between secret bosses? Maybe all of them share that they became corrupted by Gaster in some way
Why would a part of jevils theme be representing hamsters corruption?
@@localidiot450 because it’s now a leitmotif in both of the hidden bosses’ themes and they both have been driven to madness by presumably the same entity
@@Marceline-0522 but why do you presume its gaster
@@type_4410 They never said Gaster though?
@@pastecho7405 i mean, the og comment
Thank you for this extended masterpiece
welcome :)
I love on how similiar Mettaton and Spamton Neo look,their themes also seem the same too.
The robot that you put the disk into is a rusted mettaton body, so that's why they're so similar.
@@naptyte i just noticed that!
2:03 same rhythm
@@Kris-fo6wl it sounds like a rusty and scrambled mess of the mettaton neo theme,which does make sense as the body you put the disk in is rusty af
@@Kris-fo6wl and at 2:08 is a pretty noticable leitmotif of mettaton neo
Jevil: I have the best music in the game
Spamton: Listen here you little [[Big Shot]]
personally i think it should be
Jevil: I have the best music in the game
Spamton: Listen here you [Little Sponge]
Little shot
Personally I found this fight in the Snowgrave route much more engaging, I feel a lot of people are just writing it off as impossible but it really isn't, it's just like Sans in the sense that it's all about learning the moves, when I finally defeated him I was able to get almost halfway through the fight without taking any damage, and finally defeating him was extremely satisfying, I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed the fight during Pacifist, even if at a first glance it looks impossible. Here's some advice if someone needs it:
- Don't even try attacking him normally, you should only be doing damage through X-Slashes, and every turn that you can't do an X-Slash is either a turn you should be healing or defending in order to do an X-Slash the next turn.
- Chances are earlier in the chapter you got a Tension Bit, now's the time to use it, I always use it on the first turn and it's really useful because it allows you to do an extra X-Slash at the earlier turns, and in this fight the faster you are able to do damage the better, because you'll have to survive less of the harder attacks later on.
- Do NOT shoot the heart during the attacks where his heart starts moving and shooting bullets, as it turns out this is one of the easiest attacks do dodge, and if you don't shoot the heart he keeps doing the move for a long while, allowing you to easily get around 40% to 50% TP in one turn while taking no damage at all.
- This might be up to personal preference, but on the attack where you can shoot his eyes, face and mouth, start with the eyes, then move to the mouth and always leave the nose last, because the nose + the eye results in a deadly combination that can easily put you in a position where taking damage is simply unavoidable, thus you should be prioritizing getting rid of one of the two, personally I find the nose on it's own much easier to dodge so I always start with the eyes.
- Do NOT use the healing move that costs TP, all your TP must be used for X-Slash, if you really need to heal use a CD Bagel.
- I didn't know about this when I beat him, but apparently if you hold enter all the time, all your shots will come out as big shots, I don't know if this is intended or a bug or even if it actually works, but if it does I imagine it should be extremely helpful, especially during the Pipis attacks, since big shots destroy the Pipis in one hit. (Edit: and as a commenter has pointed out, it seems that now he does more damage if you do this)
The big shot spam bug got “fixed.” You’re allowed to do it during either fight in a route but you’ll anger spamton and in return he’ll do more damage.
I disagree with not using the TP heal. You generate so much TP with the right set up and it heals 120, more than most healing items.
@@meathir4921 I guess you're right that you should be able to afford it, but still I don't think it should be used carelessly, since for me one of the worst things that can happen in this fight is being unable to use an X-Slash on a turn because you don't have TP, the way I did it after the first turn I could afford it every other turn that I didn't have to heal.
Maybe it's up to personal preference, I was just trying to give advise in a way that you waste the least amount of turns possible
@@funa6968 I mean, I almost never had less than 30 TP after like turn 1
I'm taking a very different approach because I'm a fucking masochist.
I'm not using the ACT button at all, no defensive items are equiped and I'm using the wooden sword from the start of the game! Sometimes I even enrage him for fun, but it's pretty hard...
Longest Attempt: 63% HP Left.
It's weird that when you do the pacifist run he is an optional boss but when you are doing the snowgrave run he is a must-do fight
That's because he took over castle during snowgrave, There was no one to stop him from doing so
that gave him access to basement (place where his neo form is) he attacks you to stop you from destroying his "Rise to glory"
@@UsualCreator Kris:I got a power a power that anyone wouldn't have. Proceed.
You can even hear Mettaton NEO at some point woah.
Uhm yeah , because he literally stole Mettaton NEO's body
@@ladyilex wait what
Yeah. An end part and a faint leitmotif
@@arn3107 If you speak to Swatch after beating Spamton Neo, he'll reveal its origins. Mettaton made it, but lacking opportunity his dream didn't come true. Hence why he's just a sad shut-in ghost now.
@@sophtopus259 he doesn't mention METTATON
So I just learned that in every route except Snowgrave you get to fight Spamton Neo with your entire party.
I am in the process of fighting him with only Kris due to being in Snowgrave.
Wonderful!
Same.
"Spamton turns to the audience and laughs!"
"Spamton appeals to the audience with a festive jig!"
"Spamton begs to the audience"
"Spamton prays to the audience"
....
...
..
.
*There is no audience.*
I wonder if that differs between the routes (or would the audience be Kris's friends in the regular one?)
“Spamton begs the audience to stop taking the furniture out of his room”
@Noah Masoodi Yes
In the mess - Here’s what I can pull out
Spamton’s theme (Duh)
The power of Neo
The “Wow” you hear when you finish naming your character in Earthbound/Mother 3
Dummy!
The World Revolving
Omega Flowey’s Laught
Did I miss anything?
"NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT!" obviously
@@youraftermyrobotbee That's Spamton's theme.
@@askgoverntale2298 When we find whatever the hell Toby sampled
I’m so glad someone caught the “Wow” from Earthbound
where do you hear flowey's laugh?
The fact that Spamton's head movements were _always_ in sync with the music is so damn satisfying.
This song heavily samples the Mettaton NEO and Ghost themes because, guess what the body you pry the Disc from and that Spamton takes over IS Mettaton NEO.
omg good eye. i totally missed that
Genocide Mettaton transfered its conciousness to another dimension or some shit?
@@canamoxproductions Nope, it's an MS Paint drawing Metatton did on the library computer. It's pretty much confirmed
spamton neo is just mettaton neo if toby didnt make his defense literally 0
@Reece Balduzzi shopkeeper in the mansion after beating spamton neo.
“ITS TIME TO BE A BIG SHOT”
“The Air Crackles With freedom”
“Spamton Begs The Audience to stop taking the Furniture out of his room”
Freedom, That’s all they have longed for, but no matter how long they tried, they never got it
Ok, if I’m counting this correctly
Leitmotifs for world revolving, mad dummy, battle against a true hero, and spear of justice can be heard
Then it uses soundfonts from ghost fight/mad dummy, mettaton neo, and spear of justice.
It’s gotta have SOME lore significance, right?
Also muffets theme can be heard but her theme sounds kinda like the ghosts so im not sure
Don't forget about the muffled photoshop flowey roars in the bg too
The logic is that he is a blend of everything your mind has conjured up in this fake reality. He is the anathema to creative consistency. A true wild card and a rogue vying for control.
You can hear mettaton neo's theme
I don't think it's neither Battle Against a True Hero or Spear of Justice, but Mettaton NEO, which on it self is based of those two songs
I love everything about this boss fight. This song has ytpmv energy
1:36 rhythmically/melodically feels like it has so much potential more to explore for a true extended/remixed version.
For some reason when I heard it for the first time, I couldn't help but think "MORTAL KOMBAAAAT" due to the intro
Is it just me, or are the superbosses getting easier?
Sans took me hundreds of attempts to beat. Jevil took me a couple dozen. Spamton NEO took me...only one.
Skill man, skill! By challenging tougher opponents, you've mastered the art of dodging more and more, so you're more capable of handling battles like this.
@@Pinkanator this.
Sans' fight was mostly muscle memory, but Jevil's fight was about adaptability and focus, with far more random elements.
Also...if you've fought Spamton this soon after the game came out, I imagine that you've already got Sans and Jevil under your belt, which is more than you could say when you fought them.
Maybe you’re just getting better
dont forget this is still basically the start of the game, only being chapter 2, i assume there will be some super hard bosses in later chapters
this is still chapter 2
oh no, looks like spamton caught a bad case of roblox chat filter
Oof
[Hyperlink Blocked]
##### ### a ##### no
Spamton my beloved...
Oh spamton…
How we love your tips on credit advice...
And your upfront insurance policies...
Why are you all doing this? Is this a joke?
@@michaeldreemurrandhisaus2165 I like him
words cannot describe how much i love the glitch effects at 2:03
This exactly sounds like that one effect from mettaton neos theme
its mettaton neos theme but chopped up
that bit reminds of the gen 5 ost for some reason
Now's your chance to be a big shot!
Big big big big shot
Bigbigbigbig shot
Some of the themes I heard:
Mettaton NEO
Dummy
Jevil
I'm sure there's others though.
Spamton's Theme: 'Now's your chance to be a' too
I mean Spamton Neo *is* Spamton
I heard battle against a true hero too somewhere
@@vanilla5643 2:04 im guessing
spider dance is clear as well
01:48 omega flowey
Something about the sound quality of certain instruments and the crunchiness of the voiceclips gives this the feeling of a PA speaker at a train station
Nevermind the actual railroad tracks the non-snowgrave run version of the fight takes place on
I really love the fact that alot of these bosses themes match with their attack patterns. It really makes the fights feel alive.
Yeah, I always associate the part where the vocals go "Now-Now-Now-Now-Now-Now-Now" with all the Spamton heads flying in
oh wait i *just* realized that's THE WORLD REVOLVING in the background at 1 point
Its at 0:54
@@ultrauno-u9710 oh my GOD I was trying to place it for ages, no wonder I couldn't, I was going through undertale songs in my head!
1:07 "I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until you are all alone. He pulls the strings and makes them rings, can't tell you how much it's ringing. I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until you are all alone, He pulls the strings He pulls the strings I'll tell you what you big shot!"
Those lyrics actually sound correct
Characters who talks real words: Jevil(Chaos) and Spamton(BIG SHOT)
mettaton ex: OH YES
flowey: Thats a wonderful idea!
Tasque Manager: letters A through D
Me: Toby can we have actual Mettaton NEO fight?
Toby: No we have actual Mettaton NEO fight at home
actual Mettaton NEO fight at home:
The Undertale Fandom: *toby we werent reaDy for this but... WE LOVE THIS ONE*
Me: Theres no way toby fox is gonna give us cooler and mysterious characters
Spamton : DO YOU WANNA BE A BIG SHOT!!!
Be a [BIG SHOT]
[[hyperlink blocked]]
WHAT?
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
...IT'S FOR YOU.
Hi again ness!
Let's admit:
Both of Deltarune's secret bosses themes kick very hard. Imagine chapter 3 secret boss theme :O
The final/secret boss always got the mos badass theme in undertale/deltarune.
off topic on games but same goes with LISA the painful
No offense but so sorry didn't have the most badass theme in UT
* It's time to be a *[[BIG SHOT]]!*
Kris:...
It took me 3 hours to beat the genocide version of this battle
My gosh it felt great to finally win
AND YOUR STILL TRYING TO [use] HER??
@@dinogames2606 [side chick]
@@dinogames2606 is it cold in here or is it just me?
Me: Alright, I think it’s time to check my email!
My inbox:
WATCH ME FLY, [[MAMA]] !!!
*Dead
[HEAVEN] WATCH ME BEING A FREE MAN , WITH MY FRIENDS
I laughed so hard at that
Jevil: a crazy demonic Jester, chaos chaos, warps reality
Spamton NEO: *[[HOT]] MILF'S IN YOUR AREA*
Jevils old news now.
(but still beloved)
*"KRIS I HAVE EVOLVED INTO* [Phone]"
This song is a banger! It sounds like some Sonic CD song haha
Yep like Metallic Madness
GO AND [[SUBSCRIPTION]] T2 Y0UR{ FRIEND'S ■■■■■■■ [[HYPERLINK_BLOCKED]]
Honestly, I was surprised at how many Undertale references are in the Spamton NEO fight, especially this song. The intro is a lot like Power of NEO, Power of NEO itself is sampled, and there’s a hint of the best part of Dummy!/Ghost Fight.
0:55 i fucking love this part holy shit jevil
I like how the beggining sounds menacing but then Toby remembers it's for Spamton and makes it funky instead
You feel like your a big shot
This [HYPERLINK LOCKED] sounds really [LOW TEMPERATURE] Toby did a good job he's now a [BIG SHOT]
I love the leitmotif of The World Revolving around a minute in
S o u p t i m e
Guys at 1:07 I think there’s lyrics
“Please Mike answer the phone”
“Hands on the top”
“Pull the strings and make them ring”
I couldn’t translate the last sentence it seemed too distorted.
Edit: I think the last one says “don’t you wanna be free?”
For anyone who doesn’t know, there is an advertisement from 1997 about Big shot soda from a former football player named Mike. Spamton commonly says “Mike” “1997” and “BIG SHOT” frequent.
Hey this is a nice Siivagunner ri-
Wait a second.
1:47 that bit from the mad dummy fight, so good.
2:17 Spamton hired Alvin to sing at that moment
1:47 it plays the a short part of the song dummy! from undertale. the reason is that since spamton was treated like a puppet or shall say dummy for the real threat of deltarune.
omg no way
Spambot Neo is actually Mettaton Neo but at 4:20 AM
This was my fight with him literally
@@BleatzRetro420 😅
Seems like You like it, chapter 2 was awesome, especially geno root :(
what happens when you mix Big Shot, Mortal Kombat, and just a hint of the Mad Dummy's theme????
SPAMTON NEO, BABY~
1:47 best beatdrop ever
1:08 Lyrics (My Guess)
"I think he's coming for me answer the phone, I can't explain until you're all alone, pull the strings and make them ring until your heart gets ripped out!
I think he's coming for me answer the phone, I can't explain until you're all alone, pull the strings and pull the strings and TELL YOU WHAT YOU BIG SHOT!
Can we all just embrace the fact that Toby is god?
its fantastic that toby fox comes back out of no where and the hole internet is freaking out about the music the theories the games all sorts
Yet another innocent bystander ruined by presumably gaster
The list so far:
1. Jevil
2. Spamton
Meh, I don’t think Gaster will be in DR. I personally think it was the Knight (who is not Gaster), and he will be a recurring villain for all the hidden bosses. He’s quite obviously the Big Bad in DR (just ask Vriska! She pointed out there’s always a bigger bad to take down), and he clearly has some mysterious motives.
As for the man behind the tree, I also don’t think it’s Gaster, as we know so little about him that I could make a list about the things we know about him.
1. Well, he is behind the tree.
2. He might recognize and be happy to see you.
3. He has at least 2 eggs, probably 8.
4. He offers you an egg.
5. His eggs are not too important, not too unimportant.
6. Well, he is not here anymore.
@@hansonkerman7286 you realize the knight is kris, right? When the queen is talking about the knight, it shows a hand with a knife. When kris spazzes out he uses his knife to create a new dark well.
@@AlexSmith-tp7xu personally I’m not quite sure that the spazzing out at the end of ch2 was making a dark fountain. what it IS is tbd, but I’m expecting another anticlimax like the end of ch1. raise your hand if you thought it was genocide^2: beyond genocide.
Yep.
Thought so.
@@hansonkerman7286 it is gaster, no question. If you go back to the dumbster heap after defeating spamton neo a bunch of shopkeepers will appear to tell you his backstory. The last one will tell you that the phone that spamton always used had "nothing but garbage noise". If you try to use your phone in the dark world there will be "nothing but garbage noise". That garbage noise is the sound effect of entry 17 which directly related to gaster basically confirming that is in fact him who called spamton and pressumably the one who also made jevil mad. And how is kris not the kinght? He literally made something that looks exactly like a fountain. Of course it can all be some kind of dream and not be real but if that's not the case he's definetely the knight.
@@AlexSmith-tp7xu then why didn't the queen recognize kris
1:08 spamton starts talking, and states some REALLY deep lore talking about probably gaster, or whoever he was talking to on the phone which was heard to be "garbage noise". here's what he says : I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until you're all alone, he pull the strings and makes them ring, can't tell you how much it's ringing! I think he's coming for me, answer the phone, I can't explain until we're you're alone, he pulls the strings he pulls the strings, I'll tell you what you BIG SHOT!
toby makes it hard to hear from background noise, and he speaks at an incredibly low volume, but yeah.
Jevil: Finally A Worthy Opponent, Our Battle Will Be Legendary!!!
U ok bro? You slammed ur face in the ground
I just noticed: around 1:02 you can hear the World revolving. I’ve also noticed that this particular time appears all over the game, possibly linking Jevil to a lot of things
I enjoy this even more then Megalovania, then again maybe that's because Megalovania has been played to death
Either way, this song is epic
I love how it has undyne music , jevil , mettaton.. so so many things of undertale and deltarune
where was undyne
My favorite part is when he says “Nows your chance to be a big shot be a big be a big shot”
A couple of lines down is gonna be a spoiler.
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So what ya'll think it's gonna be like when we have to fight ourselves, aka the "Knight"?
among us
now's your chance to be a big shot!
wait
i just realized
jevil is a big shot
he makes a devils knife the size of a screen
and he actually transforms into devilsknife
And a [BIG SHIT]
@@Benja_Superperfecto lol
Now's your chance to be a [Artist Killer]