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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Ghosts, ghouls and things that go bump in the night! Dr Eleanor Janega delves into the medieval phantasmic to find out what their restless dead can tell us about the worries of the living. Because if we want to understand what makes another society tick, it helps to take a look at what makes them scared.
    In this show, Eleanor visits the ruins of Byland Abbey to explore some of the most terrifying stories to survive the medieval period. The 12 ghostly tales written by a monk on the blank back pages of a religious manuscript, share traits with our own modern ghost stories but we learn that medieval perceptions of ghosts may be very different to our own.
    Then at one of the most important religious sites in medieval England, Canterbury Cathedral, Eleanor investigates how the church uses ghost stories for political gain and reinforcing religious values. Archivist Cressida Williams shows us some of the memento mori tropes implemented by the church, like Cadaver tombs and the ‘Three Living and Three Dead’ Illustrations, which acted as warnings against sin and reminders of the death that awaits us all.
    Eleanor comes face to face with the dead at the University of Bradford, which houses one of the UK's largest collection of human skeletal remains, Dr Jo Buckberry, explains why adhering to proper burial practices were crucial for making it into the afterlife and describes some of the gruesome ways they prevented the revenant dead from rising from the grave to haunt their communities.
    And to complete her journey, Eleanor braves Chillingham Castle, once used as a border stronghold staving off invasion from Scotland, it’s now home to a gathering of ghosts. First recorded over a hundred years ago by Lady Leonora Tankerville in the “golden age of horror” we discover the Victorian and Edwardian obsession with the supernatural… something that haunts us still….
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Комментарии • 736

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 5 месяцев назад +795

    I don't think they were "obsessed" with it, I just think they had to deal with death much more than we, in modern society have to.

    • @Yandarval
      @Yandarval 5 месяцев назад +67

      Pre the mass production of penicillin in the 1940s. Almost any cut or infection has a fair chance of killing you. So you are correct about death being something everyone had to deal with on a regular basis.

    • @ellie698
      @ellie698 5 месяцев назад +17

      Exactly this

    • @jimplummer4879
      @jimplummer4879 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yes !

    • @PrettyPoppyGirl651
      @PrettyPoppyGirl651 5 месяцев назад +50

      That is exactly why they were obsessed with death, there were rules, there were steps thats had to be performed & in the correct order, there was no other way to think, only this belief, only this way for a "happy" afterlife, being allowed into heaven. To do anything else was to be damned. So yea, I think obsessed is pretty accurate.

    • @422katieleigh
      @422katieleigh 5 месяцев назад +38

      Eleanor has talked a lot about this and has the degrees and experience to back it up. When she says obsessed, she means obsessed.

  • @jamiebryant1524
    @jamiebryant1524 5 месяцев назад +595

    Please keep the Eleanor Janega content coming. She’s the perfect combo of super knowledgeable, easy to listen to, and quirky cool. I will watch anything she does!

    • @Me-wk3ix
      @Me-wk3ix 5 месяцев назад +5

      Agreed!

    • @thewhitewolf58
      @thewhitewolf58 4 месяца назад +17

      Quirky, weird women are the best in the world.

    • @ColleenLytle-sq8tx
      @ColleenLytle-sq8tx 4 месяца назад +9

      I agree, Dr. Eleanor Janega is the best woman narrator I've heard, next to Caitlin Doughty...as a matter of fact, I thougtht this WAS her until I looked.😁

    • @XlrationMedia
      @XlrationMedia 4 месяца назад +2

      "Fronce"

    • @jolenaroe3001
      @jolenaroe3001 4 месяца назад +1

      Same!!

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 5 месяцев назад +413

    "I'm not dead."
    "I can't take him like that. It's against regulations."
    "I don't want to go on the cart."

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 5 месяцев назад +191

    it has always fascinated me, that fine line between "wanting to die" and being completely fine with dying, as opposed to "not wanting to die" and not accepting mortality.

    • @MichaelLevine-n6y
      @MichaelLevine-n6y 5 месяцев назад +14

      I suspect that many claims of being fine with dying may fail when the claimant is dying.

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@MichaelLevine-n6yI think you’re probably right. I do think the manner or circumstances make the difference. I’ve had family dying of old age or chronic illness feel it coming and embrace it. I also don’t believe we’re left alone. I’ve heard one aunt and my grandmother say things like, ‘oh, they’ve come’. My grandmother was almost radiant and called her husband by name

    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@MichaelLevine-n6y being alive is the same as dying. thats what being mortal is all about. so no, i dont think so

    • @abnurtharn2927
      @abnurtharn2927 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@beepboop204 “You will die. You will not live forever. Nor will any man nor any thing. Nothing is immortal. But only to us is it given to know that we must die. And that is a great gift: the gift of selfhood. For we have only what we know we must lose, what we are willing to lose... That selfhood which is our torment, and our treasure, and our humanity, does not endure. It changes; it is gone, a wave on the sea. Would you have the sea grow still and the tides cease, to save one wave, to save yourself?”

    • @MichaelLevine-n6y
      @MichaelLevine-n6y 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@beepboop204 I'd say being alive is a rather different condition than dying.

  • @oliviasayshi7517
    @oliviasayshi7517 5 месяцев назад +92

    She has the same intonations as Caitlyn Dougherty! Also amazing host!

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood 4 месяца назад +4

      This video was the first recommended while watching the most recent one Caitlyn released. Then I saw your comment.
      I guess that's just a coincidence, or not. I've never watched a video from this channel.
      Things that make you go "hmmm"!
      LoL! 🤣

    • @RudePorker
      @RudePorker 4 месяца назад +1

      Our creepy queens ❤️

    • @tremorsfan
      @tremorsfan 4 месяца назад +1

      @@randibgood That's the algorithm for you.

  • @Air-bear
    @Air-bear 5 месяцев назад +265

    Gadfly here 🤫. I was in the Vietnam conflict. I had a hard time sleeping in the jungle. Not due to the environment it seems. I mentioned this to a Vietnamese scout who was with us. He said my soul was in distress. That I should sleep facing the east when I arose. Said my spirit would know it faced the light. It worked…still set my bed accordingly 😑

    • @hillerymcdonald2303
      @hillerymcdonald2303 5 месяцев назад +27

      This is fascinating. What a cool story! Thank you for your service and sacrifice, truly, thank you.

    • @wretchedrider2157
      @wretchedrider2157 5 месяцев назад +8

      Hear hear!! Great story and my genuine thanks for your service 🍻

    • @shelbynamels7948
      @shelbynamels7948 5 месяцев назад +1

      Poppycock! Nothing to do with facing the light.
      You need to align the meridians of your body with the magnetic field of the earth.
      Our bed is set accordingly.

    • @Air-bear
      @Air-bear 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@shelbynamels7948 gadfly here 👻. You know much about the ancient sun worshipers. 😵

    • @briganja
      @briganja 5 месяцев назад +11

      Placebo effect is pretty amazing! Our brains influence our bodies so much

  • @k.edwards3138
    @k.edwards3138 5 месяцев назад +109

    I love watching Dr Janega. She makes history interesting and, in some ways, exciting, and her enthusiasm is contagious. I've always loved history, but the demands of life have made me neglect reading and learning. Thanks to Dr Janega, I've started learning again about a subject I love.

  • @dereks1264
    @dereks1264 5 месяцев назад +30

    "...a tailor named snowball..."? There must be a story attached to that name.

    • @theaxe6198
      @theaxe6198 5 месяцев назад +2

      My favorite name - Seaxwulf

    • @jasonrr9817
      @jasonrr9817 5 месяцев назад +2

      In the original story a bunny had an encounter with a phantom hedgehog, but it was just NOT getting anyone to cough up silver to get holy men to shuffle ghostly paperwork. A few edits were necessary.

    • @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg
      @AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg 4 месяца назад +1

      I've known a few Snowballs......a Northern English and Scottish Surname

    • @alexandertreadgold3874
      @alexandertreadgold3874 4 месяца назад

      You can read the full story itself in The Tale of the Taylor and the Three Dead Kings

  • @commiebiogirl
    @commiebiogirl 5 месяцев назад +82

    I'm a simple girl : I see Dr Eleanor, I click the video

  • @katebowers8107
    @katebowers8107 5 месяцев назад +134

    Divining rods:
    A method of not finding water that can also be used to not find ghosts.

    • @MichaelLevine-n6y
      @MichaelLevine-n6y 5 месяцев назад +12

      Ah! Now that's the spirit!

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 5 месяцев назад +14

      My BIL used a dousing rod to find water for a well on his property. He had hired several ‘experts’ that told him he’d need to make arrangements on adjoining or nearby property owners. This guy was as pragmatic as a person could be. A history teacher who taught in the jr college nearby. Goes to church etc. I watched him do it and it was really interesting to see. It was ‘Y’ shaped and when water was indicated it bent at a 45 degree angle it wasn’t just a quiver or shaking. It was straight out and then it was pointing straight down while the two parts in his hand remained straight

    • @katebowers8107
      @katebowers8107 5 месяцев назад +7

      Cool story, bro.

    • @MichaelLevine-n6y
      @MichaelLevine-n6y 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@debbylou5729 It seems a surveyor's map would be a sound way to locate water.
      The fact the douser was a teacher and church goer are not relevant to dousing being effective or not.

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@MichaelLevine-n6y I was establishing his character. This is not a fanciful, deluded man. In your wisdom you completely missed the fact that he used several experts. These were surveys done by geologists and people with knowledge of water tables and mapping of the geographical area

  • @ytharper66
    @ytharper66 4 месяца назад +28

    That first ghost story sounds more like the Church extorting money from the people.

    • @mike3f0
      @mike3f0 4 месяца назад +1

      That's the root of "Ghost" stories, yup.

    • @Jumpoable
      @Jumpoable 2 месяца назад

      Totally LOL

    • @aaroncall2035
      @aaroncall2035 Месяц назад

      That's what church is for.

  • @jiwik731
    @jiwik731 5 месяцев назад +132

    There is nothing like ghosts.... i have been visiting that castle for more than 300 years and i have never seen a single one.

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 5 месяцев назад +24

      Maybe they just don’t like you. That’s a long time to be shunned

    • @theaxe6198
      @theaxe6198 5 месяцев назад +9

      Nice one 😂

    • @ankhpom9296
      @ankhpom9296 5 месяцев назад +3

      Uh huh.

    • @ankhpom9296
      @ankhpom9296 5 месяцев назад +1

      The dowsing rods…I don’t believe.

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@ankhpom9296 I don’t care. Guarantee you’ll try it if you’ve been without water for a few days

  • @Voodoomaria
    @Voodoomaria 5 месяцев назад +24

    With lifespans less than half the current and medical care that could double as the Spanish Inquisition [didn't expect that, did you?], when something as small as a bug bite, as innocuous as drinking a cup of water, or as universally common as giving birth could lead to a horrible demise, it's not at all surprising that death was ever present on their minds.
    If you live in a house full of scorpions, then scorpions are going to occupy an inordinate amount of your thoughts.

    • @maryanneslater9675
      @maryanneslater9675 4 месяца назад +6

      One has to remember that short lifespan is the average lifespan. While a lot of people died of hard work, injury, illness or other hardships before age 60, quite a few lucky people did live long lives. Infant and child mortality lower the average considerably.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 4 месяца назад +3

      Considering that half of all children born died before they reached the age of 1 year old, that does have a rather big impact on the "average lifespan."

    • @bilindalaw-morley161
      @bilindalaw-morley161 4 месяца назад +1

      Take my "like" just for the Inquisition! It was, indeed, totally unexpected

    • @bilindalaw-morley161
      @bilindalaw-morley161 4 месяца назад

      ​@@maryanneslater9675Yes, statistics have a lot of responsibility for misunderstandings and over-simplifications. It's quite annoying that the false "information" is so stubbornly entrenched that you cannot convince those spouting it, because they "read a book once"...Now, of course, it's "I saw a TikTok once"

    • @Voodoomaria
      @Voodoomaria 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm well aware that Stats lie, Numbers can be made to say pretty much anything you want to say, HOWEVER the mortality in that era WAS far higher than it is today
      What does it matter that it was infant mortality, OR the mother dying in child birth? The KEY point is, "HIGHER MORTALITY".
      You think saying "Oh it was just babies driving the numbers up" makes it any BETTER?
      So what's the infant mortality rate in MODERN hospitals? What's the mortality rate of modern mothers on the delivery table/chair?
      LOWER.
      Today people CAN treat what seem to be simple ailments with a round of pills and one and done, it's gone.
      Those SAME minor ailments in the absence of modern medical care CAN become lethal very quickly.
      In my work, I and a workmate scraped our skin, I on my knee, they on their arm.
      Just a scrape, a shallow surface abrasion, the kind EVERY kid gets growing up.
      I got treated, he didn't.
      Staph infection later, he was within HOURS of losing his arm [My leg had ballooned, but I got antibiotics as soon as the swelling started].
      Untreated, it COULD have killed him [or me].
      From a minor skin abrasion [AND in a modern environment, WITH modern first aid AND sanitary conditions].
      Now we HAD access to modern treatments.
      In the era we are discussing they did not.
      Diabetes was still a thing back then, How many diabetics made it out of childhood?
      Asthma, also a thing, aggravated by heating your home with poorly ventilated wood fired, How many of those survived?
      Allergies anyone?
      Or Influenza?
      Here's a fun one, Ergot Fungus.
      In damper weather it grew on their grain crops and LOOKED like the grain it was growing on.
      Not in and of it's self immediately lethal, BUT contains the principle chemicals of LSD.
      Imagine the mortality resulting from entire villages tripping out after eating their rye bread.
      The judicial murders that occurred due to THAT are well documented.
      People THESE days watch too many movies and think the ONLY difference between us and that era was the fashions, Poor cell phone reception, and horses instead of cars.

  • @Sauvium1
    @Sauvium1 4 месяца назад +45

    I cannot get over how much Dr. Janega sounds like Caitlyn Doughty (Ask a Mortician). From voice to diction, it’s uncanny. The topic is pretty on point for that channel too and the way my brain was confused every time it wasn’t Caitlyn on the screen made my brain a bit itchy.

    • @hooraayy
      @hooraayy Месяц назад

      I was thinking the same! It feels like Caitlyn if she talked about ghost

  • @richardprescott6322
    @richardprescott6322 5 месяцев назад +27

    Couple of of my favourite paintings as, a kid - Bruegel - The Triumph of Death - lots of 'Skelingtons' running amock.
    Bosch - and his visions of hell - I think they are awesome.
    I got the prints recently and had them framed. I think the woman who framed thought I was insane. 😂

    • @anissaferringer4965
      @anissaferringer4965 5 месяцев назад

      My favorites are David's Death of Marat and Millais' Ophelia.

    • @BenBebbington
      @BenBebbington 4 месяца назад

      Its spelled 'Skellingtons' actually

  • @noname-by3qz
    @noname-by3qz 4 месяца назад +2

    Late 1300s is when King Richard the 2nd ruled. You're welcome. Creator, why didn't you start with some context, instead of making us look things up you leave out??
    And don't tell us when Becket lived, well keep pausing and writing nasty notes and looking it up.
    Ok 1100s. This isn't a video, its a homework assignment.

  • @Aspen7780
    @Aspen7780 5 месяцев назад +88

    I grew up with a mix of Native American and Catholic beliefs. As a result, my understanding from the Catholic side was to welcome death, embrace it, even look forward to it. That it’s unfortunate that we have to live a life because it interferes with our whole goal, which is to dwell with god in the afterworld. The life in the here and now really means little. This life only exists to prepare us for the next one and our actions in life will determine that. Because you don’t want to go to the Other Place. Our Native teachings (I’ll only say it’s from the Southwest) on the other hand taught that, you don’t think about those things unless you want them to actually happen. That to dwell so much on death and suffering was to invite it to happen because thoughts can induce action. So don’t worry so much about the afterlife because 1)it exists, and 2) we really don’t know what form it will take so 3) It will take care of itself, and 4) there really isn’t a punishment of sorts there except for the absolute worst of beings. Live for now. That doesn’t give you permission to go all crazy, but enjoy your life right now and all the blessings in it and don’t worry so much about what tomorrow brings. Death will come eventually so don’t hasten it. If anyone was obsessing or focused on death, they were sick in the heart. A sickness of the soul so to speak. Maybe akin to depression. Literally killing themselves with their own thoughts. I had a couple of devout Catholic relatives who would say “I don’t know why god hasn’t taken me yet” feeling like being left alive in old age was a form of punishment. Even praying for god to take them. I respect that, but I could never understand it. But then, I have never ascribed to the whole preparing for the afterlife is the whole point of living. A sort of purgatory in life. I have always preferred every day is a gift to be enjoyed. You can see the missionaries had a lot of work to do to make us good Catholics and focus on death.

    • @gnostic268
      @gnostic268 5 месяцев назад +14

      I'm also Native (Northern Great Plains) and was raised in a Christian liturgical tradition since the Freedom of Religion Act didn't happen until 1978. Our traditional cultural beliefs are that there is no difference between this world and the next other than if you weren't a good member of your people/tribe then you would have to go back and try again in the next world. However, there was no punishment such as hell, there would simply be another chance to get it right.

    • @Aspen7780
      @Aspen7780 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@gnostic268 The same for us too. Our traditions for down here is that the next place is a mirror image of this world. The only actual punishment being reserved for those being, the popular pan Native term “two hearted”, if you believe in those things. But for everyone else it’s a birth into another world, like our current one. I really don’t know if our concept of that “punishment” is really indigenous either or is it Christianity seeping into the Native religion. Anyways, lots in common!

    • @cynhiacations9879
      @cynhiacations9879 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@gnostic268this is the belief I have. To get it right to then move to the next level to get that level right.

    • @MFLimited
      @MFLimited 4 месяца назад +8

      I really enjoyed reading your comment. I disagree that being raised as a Catholic is to be, basically a goth, focused on death 😂 perhaps that’s true of some older depressed people in certain Roman Catholic traditions? Definitely not the charismatic ones!I’m Anglican Catholic, Church of England. I’m currently living at a friary (a place with Franciscan Friars/monks), and life is very joyful here. There is zero obsession about death. There is a lot of spirituality and prayer. A lot of joy. Praying on the roof, playing music, having bonfires, planting crops and flowers, brewing beer, doing things with nearby communities, family camps, guests on retreat.
      So, I have no idea what you’re talking about. But I did find it interesting. Personally, I think about life and death. Death is inevitable, I may as well look forward to it. Why live in fear of it? But it does not mean I can’t revel in every moment here. Life is a gift.
      Old and very sick people I have known, who have prayed for death, have often been in terrible pain. I cannot judge them for not living in the moment, when they are suffering. I am happy they believe that their suffering will end and they will go somewhere better. From life to Afterlife.
      If I lived in Medieval Europe and there was plague and infant mortality at massive rates. Where 36% of women died in childbirth and childbirth related illnesses and somebody could have 20 children and lose them all to childhood illnesses easily. where small crimes could see you publicly executed in the most hideous ways. Can you imagine the depression you would be in? Life expectancy was 33. You’d have to be crazy not to think about death in that situation.

    • @Aspen7780
      @Aspen7780 4 месяца назад +4

      @@MFLimited the Catholicism I was exposed to growing up was much more fire and brimstone than your experience. And filled with “you have to do this or you have to do that…or else…”
      And the 2nd commandment condemned our traditions, our history, our ancestors, our ways and couldn’t be tolerated by the Church.
      We still live in the shadow of Spanish/Catholic colonialism. Submit to the king at the point of a sword and kneel or be hit over the head with the cross. We have stories of the first church being built by forced labor with laborers falling dead from exhaustion. Of traditional healers being executed or flogged at the insistence of priests attempting to stamp out all vestiges of our traditions. Of young girls being separated from their families and sent against their will to Mexico to become nuns so as to not learn our traditional ways, to be “saved”, and never to be heard from ever again. It’s hard to separate the actions of conquistadors from that of the church. It was all done in the name of a king and a pope. But it all led to the Pueblo Revolt of 1680. It might be ancient history for many people, but we here still live in its shadows over here.
      I do have respect for people of faith. I myself had too many questions and the way I thought about things and my own personal philosophies had no place in the Church. I couldn’t forsake our traditional culture heroes for saints. Our history and our religion are entwined. To become a true good catholic would mean to forsake our grandparents and their grandparents and our history. So confirming to strict Catholic doctrine wasn’t my thing. At best I was a cafeteria Catholic. There are still some Catholic teachings and traditions that I cherish though. And I do have greater respect for the Catholic Church over other Christian religions.

  • @Frank_Nemo
    @Frank_Nemo 5 месяцев назад +8

    History shows that Medieval people were right to be so obsessed with death, especially when you consider that indeed they are now all dead. So, they were right on the money on that one.

  • @dlseller
    @dlseller 4 месяца назад +4

    Christianity is itself a horror story. It’s shocking how completely ass-backwards Christianity gets death. The here and now is all that there is, that makes life precious. Live now and stop worrying about an afterlife that doesn’t exist.

  • @Gaeliclass
    @Gaeliclass 5 месяцев назад +10

    Can you imagine if you had a severe injury or disease that was quite painful? You might want to die if you had no pain relief. A peasant with back problems, but they had to continue to plow the fields so their family wouldn't survive?

    • @okidokidraws
      @okidokidraws Месяц назад +1

      Modern days we still have to work sick I had to work with covid last year. and i found out i have anemia this year i had 7 polyps and 2 colon surgeries and found out I have a hernia and hemorrhoids I had a car crash in February where my car flipped twice and i still have had to work XD Im the only income. I had to work after grandparents and cousin funeral too

  • @brettcurtis5710
    @brettcurtis5710 5 месяцев назад +46

    Dr Eleanor Janega nails its again - wish I had teachers like her when I was at High School - so informative and with a sense of humour too!

    • @debbylou5729
      @debbylou5729 17 дней назад

      You probably got what your school could afford

  • @kayscanningacademy
    @kayscanningacademy 5 месяцев назад +9

    Some of these visions that folks had back then makes me feel like taking a too hot bath after having some bad rye bread is such a recipe....

  • @ophelias4172
    @ophelias4172 4 месяца назад +4

    I’ve been to Chillingham castle and the stories are epic. If you get the chance you have to visit!!

  • @robotdeer
    @robotdeer 5 месяцев назад +7

    I'm fairly certain I could watch Dr. Janega talk aboout anything and I'd be like "slay".

  • @newgabe09
    @newgabe09 5 месяцев назад +10

    You feature Canterbury Cathedral..I'm quite sensitive to places and have sometimes 'seen and known' murders/deaths that have happened in a place- as verified by people who know the history of the place. Canterbury Cathedral filled me with chills of horror as soon as I entered, I had to leave straight away.

    • @dulciemidwinter1925
      @dulciemidwinter1925 4 месяца назад +4

      That's such a shame. Canterbury is a beautiful place. I go there quite a lot. Of course, a terrible murder happened there centuries ago, but don't forget that it then became a place of pilgrimage. Many, many pilgrims passed through those doors to visit the shrine of the saint. The monks may have regarded them as a money making commodity but the pilgrims themselves were making that journey because they wanted to be near to the Saint. I think that all that devotion has cancelled out any negative residual emotions. I find it a place of great peace and calm. Its not frightening at all.

    • @Amalie.x7fv
      @Amalie.x7fv 3 месяца назад +1

      I love Canterbury but I understand what you mean- I get an icky feeling whenever Ive gone to the Tower of London- just knowing the horrible things that happened there

    • @newgabe09
      @newgabe09 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Amalie.x7fv For me, these things happen when I don't know what's gone on in a place.. and find out later.

    • @Amalie.x7fv
      @Amalie.x7fv 3 месяца назад +1

      @@newgabe09 interesting- you must have good intuition!!

    • @SkyandMoon909
      @SkyandMoon909 12 дней назад +1

      Warwick Castle dungeon affects me badly.

  • @mikki3961
    @mikki3961 5 месяцев назад +99

    If your life was fraught with danger, a fever or cut could kill you then an obsession with death is rather logical. To top it off, insufferable priests and officials telling you that you were a sinner just because you happened to be poor or lower class. Thanks Dr. Janega as always you present with respect and genuine enthusiasm.

  • @theeutecticpoint
    @theeutecticpoint 5 месяцев назад +5

    you might be a lord, you might be a lady, but sooner or later we all push up daises

  • @ricksmith5315
    @ricksmith5315 5 месяцев назад +8

    Love watching all your videos. Especially durning the Medieval period. You make it very interesting and informative. I have always been interested in this period. Thank you for all the content.

  • @Absurdistpath
    @Absurdistpath 4 месяца назад +5

    Some RUclips creators just sit in front of a wall with some nice lighting, but this video takes place on the set of Winterfell from the looks of it haha, that's fantastic dedication ❤

  • @lukestratford
    @lukestratford 4 месяца назад +6

    Eleanor is great! Love her documentaries ❤

  • @myrollingpeach
    @myrollingpeach 4 месяца назад +7

    Dr Janega is brilliant! I loved her book on women in the Medieval era too!

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 4 месяца назад +14

    As a kid in the Southern and Southwest US in the 50s and 60s I heard soooo many ghost stories…including a family ghost from the Civil War. According to the story a female ancestor whose husband was away fighting for the Confederacy came upon a Union soldier trying to steal her cow, whose milk was a big part of what little they had to eat. Being one of my female ancestors she shot him dead…lots of tough women. Supposedly, were any descendants to visit where she lived…location unknown…the man’s ghost would appear, demanding “where’s MY milk!!!” Other stories were far more scary, especially La Llorana, the Crying Woman.

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball3778 5 месяцев назад +3

    'We're all haunted... just by societal expectations'. I.e. the real ghosts were the friends we met along the way...

  • @metoo7557
    @metoo7557 5 месяцев назад +15

    Death was common every day to medieval peasants.. the rulers thought of them as disposable cattle. And treated them accordingly. Their lives had very little value to the rulers, as has been common throughout all of history.

    • @roberth721
      @roberth721 5 месяцев назад +2

      Can be argued that it hasn't changed.

    • @metoo7557
      @metoo7557 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@roberth721 It hasn't changed. it's not even arguable.

    • @markaurelius3119
      @markaurelius3119 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@metoo7557exactly. But we still fight over white-black, right-left.
      When there are only rich and poor. And everything we see was built on greed and in a chase for pleasures

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 3 месяца назад

      @@metoo7557 Then you're contradicting yourself.

    • @metoo7557
      @metoo7557 3 месяца назад

      @@MrCmon113 Not at all, maybe try reading it again

  • @mikecobalt7005
    @mikecobalt7005 5 месяцев назад +7

    :) Another excellent informative video. Dr Janega is always great at explaining ancient issues in a way everybody can understand and in an interesting manner.

  • @jfurl5900
    @jfurl5900 5 месяцев назад +13

    Purgatory was a real place to me as a child . The teachers pounded it into us verbally and literally that we would be going there and that we would be there for many thousands of years unless somebody was praying for us (on the outside) or among the living in other words.

    • @catlyn777
      @catlyn777 5 месяцев назад

      Me too and I was very confused by it.

    • @jujubean54ify
      @jujubean54ify 4 месяца назад +1

      Aren’t you glad that you found out that there is no purgatory?

    • @BenBebbington
      @BenBebbington 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jujubean54ifyPURGATORY IS REAL I know because I have seen it (a Lincolnshire village on a Sunday)

    • @jujubean54ify
      @jujubean54ify 4 месяца назад

      That’s hilarious !!!!!

  • @d_ruggs
    @d_ruggs 2 месяца назад +4

    I find it interesting that ghost stories use to center around improper burial and nowadays they are more often about unnatural death. It's almost like improper burial has drifted from our minds, but fear of an untimely demise has not.

  • @bobdevreeze4741
    @bobdevreeze4741 5 месяцев назад +4

    It is the one absolute in life. If you are born , you will die. I don't see it as an obsession as much as I see it as a fascination. We know it going to happen..so what is next? Is there a next?

    • @R08Tam
      @R08Tam 5 месяцев назад +1

      No

    • @NanaBren
      @NanaBren 4 месяца назад

      Bob, I agree that humans are fascinated by the idea of death and an afterlife. The very uncertainty of when we will die feeds the imagination. If energy cannot truly be destroyed, only transformed, then it is possible that the energy that animates the physical body will be transformed into something else. I personally believe in an afterlife and that it doesn’t matter what religion you believe in or whether you are an atheist. Each person will experience something different. I respect that others believe differently. 😊

  • @Steadyeddie3
    @Steadyeddie3 5 месяцев назад +8

    These ghost stories are awesome, I'd like to see more if possible

    • @ankhpom9296
      @ankhpom9296 5 месяцев назад

      Even in death there is still politics.

  • @golden_smaug
    @golden_smaug 4 месяца назад +7

    Dr Janega has got me deep in Medieval Litterature and history, she's so contagious

  • @bringmethatcoffee5235
    @bringmethatcoffee5235 4 месяца назад +3

    you have a very.. calming(?) voice. i really enjoyed listening to you. will definitely check out more from this channel.

  • @petetirp9776
    @petetirp9776 5 месяцев назад +7

    Terrific production and editing. Kudos to the entire team.

  • @miss_lay_hay
    @miss_lay_hay 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wouldn't call it obsessive, to me it seems to be more of a coping mechanism or a way of trying to process it in a time when there wasn't the standards of medication and hygiene that we have today, the high mortality, especially with infant mortality and death during pregnancy. Not mention low life expectancy caused by factors such as hard labour, environment, politics and religion. Guess they were just trying to make sense of it all and comfort themselves in their own way.

  • @stonedsasquatch
    @stonedsasquatch Месяц назад +2

    If they were obsessed then modern humans are stalker level infatuated

  • @rhys1264
    @rhys1264 2 месяца назад +1

    Can't help but laugh a bit at Medieval ghosts being like: HOW DARE YOU IGNORE ME and then if you visit them at their graves they're like 'HOW DARE YOU PAY ATTENTION TO ME'.

  • @kelseylogas1580
    @kelseylogas1580 5 месяцев назад +2

    It's something that none of us come back from. None of us know what happens when we die, and we as a species seem desperate to find out. Which why, I think, communicating with the dead has so much universal appeal. Plus its a bit of wishful thinking. That there could be something after we die. Why do you suppose religion is so popular?
    But, as the saying goes: "Life after death is about as likely as sex after marraige."

  • @cameronturner1865
    @cameronturner1865 5 месяцев назад +15

    Clicked on this as soon as I saw Dr. Janega. Love her appearances on The Medieval Podcast

  • @CharleneCTX
    @CharleneCTX 5 месяцев назад +2

    I was listening, rather than watching, this video and was struck by how much Eleanor and Caitlin Doughty sound alike.

  • @bluestarfish95
    @bluestarfish95 5 месяцев назад +13

    I Love Dr Janega Videos ❤

  • @isthattrue1083
    @isthattrue1083 4 месяца назад +1

    That head may had been a trophy brought back from a war. That would explain why the body is missing. Why the blows are in the position they are. Even if they beheaded them because of sins, etc., they still would had been buried with the body.

  • @okidokidraws
    @okidokidraws Месяц назад +1

    Now days people live like they are going to be immortal until a accident or something happens I like religions reminder that we are not forever makes life more special. I feel bad for the people who were innocent and black mailed into saying they did stuff then buried wrongly. I wonder if if was a wrongful execution if the one who made it happen would not go to heaven cause it might say they did it on paper but up above I hope would know what happened. I'd love to spend the night in a haunted castle I'd always thought it'd be humorous about ghosts talking about their time periods

  • @YNomadicDusk
    @YNomadicDusk 3 месяца назад +1

    Hmmm, I have always approached this subject with caution. I believe in and have concern for lost souls who have been seen after a tragic event such as a plane crash. Then Ive seen ghost hunting videos where they read prayers from a satanic book which i think is insane. I cannot help but think if there is a veil, there is good reason.

  • @catlyn777
    @catlyn777 5 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe it was a bit entertaining for some of them like today. I don’t doubt there were ghost hunters and ghost storytellers then, like today. People are still fascinated by ghost stories and the afterlife. I don’t think we’ve changed so much as humans.

  • @theaxe6198
    @theaxe6198 5 месяцев назад +3

    Why don’t we have awesome names like Snowball!

    • @Summalogicae
      @Summalogicae День назад

      We do: the kitten living next door to me has a mother named Snowball.

  • @MunsterBeavis
    @MunsterBeavis 5 месяцев назад +3

    Whoever selected the thumbnail for this was trolling lol

  • @mjrchapin
    @mjrchapin 4 месяца назад +2

    Amazing video! History, ghost stories, religion, life, death--it's got everything and is extremely well written and produced! More, please!

  • @jyotivig3666
    @jyotivig3666 5 месяцев назад +3

    A great talk Dr. Janega, would love to visit the Chillingham Castle.

  • @devinshirekineally3721
    @devinshirekineally3721 4 месяца назад +2

    what a delightful program! well presented, entertaining and informative; just an all around wonderful job... thank you!

  • @joyavanessen3704
    @joyavanessen3704 4 месяца назад +2

    Oh her last words about society expectations...drop Mike gurl! Bam nicely put! Loved this whole video.

  • @choughed3072
    @choughed3072 5 месяцев назад +3

    Ive alsways assumed it was because death was far more previlant back then.

    • @roberth721
      @roberth721 5 месяцев назад +5

      No, it's the same as now, one death per person.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 5 месяцев назад +3

    It was interesting and thrilled watching introduced about that matter of cathedral enlightenment & clergy influenced on people's outlooks towards death, spiritual stories.. how those stories served churches inside and outside churches ⛪️ walls in medieval terms.

  • @WOLFROY47
    @WOLFROY47 4 месяца назад +1

    was henry chipley, a chip monk ? { what do you expect, on the spare of the moment}

  • @ludovica8221
    @ludovica8221 4 месяца назад +1

    archbishop Henry Chicheley was my 16x great grand uncle

  • @NorahSweetheart87
    @NorahSweetheart87 5 месяцев назад +6

    I'd love to see this topic discussed more

  • @hooraayy
    @hooraayy Месяц назад +1

    Richard seems like a very cool guy, would love to listen to ghost story from him

  • @FelixstoweFoamForge
    @FelixstoweFoamForge 5 месяцев назад +1

    Isn't purgatory just great? when you die, you go to "almost hell", but it's not permanent, and you can get out of it if your relatives pay the Church to lessen your time there. Now that's what I call clever marketing! And the kicker is that there's absolutely no mention of purgatory in the bible. It's like persuading someone they owe you money when they don't.

  • @sasha1mama
    @sasha1mama 4 месяца назад +2

    Ah ain't afeared a' no toast! Ah put butter on 'em. An' eat 'em!

  • @terrenceseidman2587
    @terrenceseidman2587 5 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone fears death I’m Christian and even though I believe in God I can’t deny a bit of fear.

  • @amywebb4586
    @amywebb4586 4 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely loved this. I am in mortuary school & I love history so the history of death & burial was really interesting. Also, you give Jamie Lee Curtis vibes, I mean that in a good way.

  • @persephonequeenoftheunderw84
    @persephonequeenoftheunderw84 5 месяцев назад +7

    I’m obsessed with Eleanor like OBSESSED

    • @dwhitt567
      @dwhitt567 5 месяцев назад +1

      I love Dr. Jenega. In this video I wanted to see more cleavage and legs. Dr Janega is sexy beautiful very interesting to listen to and is perfect blending historical facts with her own sense of humor. Wonderful lady!

    • @plastikmaiden
      @plastikmaiden 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@dwhitt567 Don't be a creep.

    • @Ragerian
      @Ragerian 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@plastikmaiden Don't kink shame me.

  • @jojotaylor8079
    @jojotaylor8079 5 месяцев назад +2

    People still are obsessed with it. it’s the most asked question in the world

  • @keenoled
    @keenoled 5 месяцев назад +2

    The man at the thirty minute mark with the waist coat, can he please read me the phone book?

  • @SirAntoniousBlock
    @SirAntoniousBlock 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ralph: “The trouble is, are there ghosts, Piggy? Or beasts?
    Piggy: _"Course there aren’t.”_
    Ralph: “Why not?”
    Piggy: _"Cos things wouldn’t make sense, houses and streets, and, TV, they wouldn’t work.”_

  • @stevenperkins-p5x
    @stevenperkins-p5x 4 месяца назад +2

    back in the 70's my gran told me several scary ghost stories that still creep me out now

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 5 месяцев назад +7

    Well done Dr. Eleanor. Cheers from Tennessee

  • @robertweeks4240
    @robertweeks4240 4 месяца назад +1

    i make it a point to visit cemeteries when i'm on a roadtrip.... very interesting local history wherever you are travelling!

  • @katbullar
    @katbullar 4 месяца назад +1

    There are also depictions of bodily decay in music. The funeral sentences of William Croft are an example of it.

  • @thomaslong8401
    @thomaslong8401 5 месяцев назад +1

    Even as a child I did not believe in ghosts. But then I had to go to church and didn’t believe there was god either. Age 17 I saw the exorcist movie at the theater. My friends were scared but I thought it was funny. Ghosts, demons, spirits had no hold on me.

  • @shambleslongplay3566
    @shambleslongplay3566 5 месяцев назад +2

    Its amazing how no one ever sees cave men ghosts. or dinosaur ghosts. its always victorian era pets and people ghosts.
    Almost as if it is utter horse droppings.

  • @jameskatz7833
    @jameskatz7833 5 месяцев назад +2

    I hope Dr. Janega says “France” in this video.

  • @nikbear
    @nikbear 5 месяцев назад +5

    I see Dr Eleanor Janega, I click 👍her knowledge and enthusiasm is absolutely infectious ❤ I have such a crush on her 😍

    • @user-gq3ip8kr5r
      @user-gq3ip8kr5r 5 месяцев назад

      Who does she look like? I keep thinking it's an actress 🤔 It's bugging me, lol. I like all of her shows, too. They are so interesting!!

    • @sadman5038
      @sadman5038 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-gq3ip8kr5reverytime i see her i think she looks like Olivia Colman (one of my favourite actresses)

  • @MrBlahblahismyname
    @MrBlahblahismyname 4 месяца назад +1

    Dr. Janega can you do an Audible where you read your own book? I loved the book and I am too busy to reread it. Also you have such a unique voice and it would be great to hear the book with your cadence. Especially the humourous bites.

  • @allanlees299
    @allanlees299 5 месяцев назад +3

    The Roman Catholic Church was the most successful business in history for several hundred years. People paid tithes, they paid for pardons, they paid for indulgences, and they paid for remission of sins for those who'd died. It was a fantastic money-making scheme. Sadly, later CEOs lost the plot as alternative sects of the same mythology arose in consequence of Luther accidentally splitting those promulgating the mythology into fissiparous sub-sects, none of which really commanded sufficient power to generate the kind of revenues the Catholic Church had until then enjoyed as a monopoly supplier in Europe.

  • @noname-by3qz
    @noname-by3qz 4 месяца назад +1

    10th minute...the woman tells her it took 15 years to make arrangements for that king's body. Then she says it was made "so quickly before his death"?! Did she even hear what she said?! Since when is 15 yrs quickly? Damn what annoying narration. Seriously you need an editor. A proofreader.

    • @SomeoneBeginingWithI
      @SomeoneBeginingWithI 3 месяца назад +1

      I think she means since it was finished quickly (it probably didn't take them decades to build it) there was lots of time in between it being finished and him dying, there was a lot of time in which he was alive to see it.
      They don't say that it took 15 years to make arrangements for his body. They made arrangements for his body before he died, and the statue was finished 15 years before he died. The people at the time wouldn't have know exactly when he was going to die, and probably wanted the statues to be done before he died so they were ready for his burial without needing to rush them.
      They are also talking about a Bishop, not a King.

    • @SomeoneBeginingWithI
      @SomeoneBeginingWithI 3 месяца назад

      I'm genuinely curious whether English is your first language, and if it is, approximately where in the world you grew up. English is my first language and I didn't have any difficulty understanding that part of the video. For reference I grew up in the southern half of England. Maybe you learned English somewhere else where the language is used slightly differently.

  • @Freshnewz10
    @Freshnewz10 4 месяца назад +1

    I believe that people became more obsessed with these modern concepts of ghosts after the Victorian age

  • @zackhalter9571
    @zackhalter9571 5 месяцев назад +4

    Dr. Janega is the best!🎉

  • @debralittle1341
    @debralittle1341 5 месяцев назад +1

    What about those who were thrown into plague pits? Too many died so close together that there wasn't time for individual burials.

  • @BlueSkyCountry
    @BlueSkyCountry День назад

    Ghost sightings, stories, and detailed accounts of hauntings remained high right into the late 1990s. Then came the sudden and rapid influx of affordable high quality HD cameras, camera phones, bright solid state LED illumination, and drones, and these sightings and experiences fell drastically.

  • @MichaelLevine-n6y
    @MichaelLevine-n6y 5 месяцев назад +2

    It would be more impressive for the spirits to move the rods with no one holding them.

  • @692ALBANNACH
    @692ALBANNACH 5 месяцев назад +3

    Perhaps because they were so surrounded with it.

  • @SpoodyFlopp
    @SpoodyFlopp 4 месяца назад +1

    Dr. Eleanor teaching history in a leopard print fur coat is my Roman Empire.

  • @oldmanjenkins38
    @oldmanjenkins38 5 месяцев назад +1

    In a time when life expectancy was not long (especially for children). It is no surprise you would think about death. From black plagues, civil wars. Heck even a staff infection would kill you! Another great video Dr Janega!

  • @lemon_j22
    @lemon_j22 5 месяцев назад +6

    Because everyone died back then.

    • @MrDaithis
      @MrDaithis 5 месяцев назад +5

      as oppose to the immortal modern humans .

    • @alwilliams5177
      @alwilliams5177 5 месяцев назад

      I bet you always find things you loose in the last place you look there Sherlock.

    • @lemon_j22
      @lemon_j22 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@alwilliams5177 Of course I always find things in the last place I look. I wouldn't continue to look in other places to find something that I've already found in the last place I looked, would I Dr. Watson!

    • @alwilliams5177
      @alwilliams5177 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@lemon_j22 touche

  • @billquinn6224
    @billquinn6224 5 месяцев назад +5

    I think it was because death was around them all the time and they developed a mind set that sooner or later death was going to knock on their door.
    Anyone who has been in combat has the feeling that somewhere out there, there is a bullet with your name on it and you stick around too long and that bullet will definitely find you.

  • @hollythomas5444
    @hollythomas5444 21 день назад

    PLEASE MAKE MORE VIDEOS WITH DR JANEGA! I think I’ve seen all the history hit videos with her, I need more lol

  • @victoriamartin9872
    @victoriamartin9872 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow! Fascinating and informative. First time hearing so much of this content. Loved it!

  • @josephottavi-perez8203
    @josephottavi-perez8203 3 месяца назад

    Growing up w/ Mexican Catholicism it was a contradictory mix of faith in “the hereafter” and folk beliefs like Dia de Muertos, unshakeable certainty & tradition of celebrating our dearly departed to - in a way - draw them back to us. Mexicans dont fear Death in the same way various European/Western cultures do…

  • @edwardpatrick8442
    @edwardpatrick8442 3 месяца назад +1

    This is why i am a fan of Horrible Histories and History in General because of the afterlife to know the people that lived in those centuries to learn their own lives it gives you a feeling about the horrible side of History to learn about or prepare our own deaths to learn about those people who died in history...HORRIBLE HISTORY FOR THE WIN.

  • @charlottepeukert9095
    @charlottepeukert9095 Месяц назад

    Oh, please.
    Even if the church was trying to tell people, that this life was just transitory and didn't really matter, they didn't listen.They lived just like we do. All these prayers amd messes didn't stop them from living life to the fullest. They cared for clothes, jewellery, they were vain, greedy, loved a good party and enjoyed themselves, whenever possible.
    So, ghost- stories or not, if there was an educational purpose behind them, it didn't do much good.

  • @themarquis8716
    @themarquis8716 4 месяца назад +1

    She's wearing a keffiyeh ❤💚🖤