Does 384 kHz sampling make sense?
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2020
- High res audio is hot within the audio society. But does it really offer better sound quality on all equipment? Or is it just marketing hype?
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As always Hans, your perspective is golden.
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Always a great listen. I'm patiently waiting for you to do a TED talk, I imagine pure brilliance, and with that bombshell, I hope to see you again next Friday...Blessings.
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Just found this channel and subscribed immediately. Very informative and helpful. Thank you!
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Thank you Hans. I have not experienced audio and technical knowledge communicated this cogently since Julian Hirsch, which is to say I admire you and I value the time you apportion for our benefit. Live long and prosper.
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Thanks once again Hans
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That Pc vrs Mac over USB is very interesting. Thankyou
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Thanks for the knowledge you share with us .
I currently use a MacBook Pro 13 2010 battery powered as source for my Centrence DacPort HD connected via
UpTone USPCB and audio quest jitter bug , Jriver 26 music external portable hdd .
Sounds good on most tracks but on some busy tracks like (Elastic heart by Sia).. there is a part in the song or it gets busy and the DAC emidiately introduces distortion ,harshness, image suffers etc... after the busy part ends, sound quality gets back to sounding good and enjoyable is this problem known to you ,any advice ?
Sorry, can't do support questions. Please address your question to the support of Centrence.
Excellent video.
Specs are one thing hearing is another.
If you have lab equipment to measure everything then specs might be right up your street and if that makes you happy good luck to you.
I buy audio eqipment to enjoy the music.
Rememebr what ever you do "enjoy the music".
Great point!
Great video. You mentioned quality oscillators. I noticed that many Chinese manufacturers are using Accusilicon chips for less jitter but I notice that cheaper Chinese DACs (a few hundred dollayand above) perform equally on the J-Test so then of the jitter performance is the same...would putting and buying more expensive DACs make sense? Thanks
Just listen. There is more than the relative course J-Test shows
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks. Where I live and with my budget, unfortunately I can't so I rely on experts opinion...I have to. Many thanks for your reply
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Thank you Hans. I just got a SMSL AD18. £98 from eBay. Gonna use it in an AV set up in spare room. The NFC Bluetooth activation was the deal clincher! Class D totally different to my vintage Scandyna receiver in my,'setup1’ 😉. Also going to try the streaming/file based route on the 'setup2' Mac Mini, WD HDD and Schitt Modi to start...
Enjoy it
Very interesting topic.
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I think one of the things people forget most about the hobby of being an audiophile is to keep your musical experiences fresh. Whenever I consider spending more on equipment because I feel bored with something, or my experiences start to feel flat, I take a break for a week or two, and then I try out a new genre or dig into some different material from artists I already enjoy.
I also try to listen for recommendations. Some other channels that I follow will mention an album they tested equipment with or favorites. Some give recommendations along with each piece of equipment, so by listening for those recommendations I can delve into what other audiophiles enjoy.
I also feel that if you're listening to music you don't like because the recording is good, you should try to find a better recording of things you do enjoy. Certain live albums, for example, can breathe new life into tracks you've only previously heard in studio recordings. I also like compilations of music by an artist, as performed by other artists. (Recently I found out about The Art of McCartney, which is Paul McCartney's music (spanning the Beatles, Wings, solo work, etc) as performed by other artists. The slight change of flavor adds nuance and breaks up the album in a way to cut potential monotony.
Thanks for sharing
Great video. The point about running a music server in a computer that doesn’t have the music is s great one. Every review I’ve seen compared the melco or Innuos to either a NAS Which has the streamer and music on the same computer. I wonder how much difference there is if you’ve set up a Mac mini with the music on an outboard usb HDD for music and streaming music over Ethernet. I have never seen that comparison.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this is video and sharing your thoughts. I'm currently blinded by the light. I've been using a Bluesound Node 2i and the digital preouts are tosklink and coaxial digital. Currently using Toslink. Both have folks on the internet calling out its weakness of 192khz limitation, whereas USB does not. But the Node 2i does not have a USB out. I've purchased a digital coaxial to see if there's a different but have been thinking whether a streamer with better output opts will be better.
Why is 192 kHz a limitation? How much music is there for sale at higher sampling rates....
Its a limitation due to the commercial mumbo jumbo and things people say in the forums. Hence appreciate channels such as yours who tell it as it is. Nevertheless, in your earlier videos you also point to bandwidth limitations of cables. And there lies my concern about cables, some folks say Toslink mainly plays 96khz and other say Toslink may at times go up to 192khz. I thought I'd try digital coaxial to see if there's an improvement. I've also seen your video on improving the digital signal.
Hans, you are right about this.
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Was hoping for some technical comment on whether 384KHz is desirable over, say 192kHz or even 96kHz, ie when is resolution "high enough"? Did I miss that?
I think so
No you're on the money. This video was unnecessarily long winded and didn't get to the actual point quickly enough.
Does Rankin happen to say anything about Linux?
Sorry no
Dear Hans, very good video as always. I have a 2000 euro DAC and also use Tidal, i am yet to find the benefits of Hires files. Still my favorite media Is CD.
Try Qobuz
@@techtt6213 not available in my country
Thanks for sharing
Regarding the influence of equipment appearance on the perception of its quality; Floyd Toole tells of a speaker listening test by audio design engineers. A range of speakers of very different prices were auditioned first when clearly visible and then behind screens. The ratings of visible speakers followed price very closely, the hidden speakers not at all.
Floyd Toole has done and said many interesting things and is a very valuable source for us all.
Hi Hans, sorry to bother, would you be so kind as to put the subtitles? Thanks and greetings from Spain
There are English subtitles on every video. Just click the CC on the right in the lower part of the screen.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Sorry, I meant that they are not translated, like most of your videos, you can put subtitles translated into Spanish. Regards,
I’ve never heard anyone explain MQA better than Hans. I wish he would explain DSD:1024 and if it’s feasible or practical through a portable DAC
DSD1024 is a waist of storage space. No one produces in DSD1024 for it has no benefits sound wise.
Does it make a diiference?
That’s what I did explain at the end of the video.
Yes it makes a big difference. 384khz and 32 bit during mastering gives me the most professional sound, very close analog on a digital domain. If I had the equipment like a 200 core CPU, I will record my audio on this format. Even after converting the audio to 16bit 44.1, the good sound remains.
Ha I thought ..... This video is almost on a religious level, end titles .... " Audio evangelist " subscribed 😁😁😂
'Evangelist' translates to 'bringer of good news' and is used by religions in that way. Please don't name my work religious. You might consider this video to be a bit philosophical, if you like, but not religious.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel My Dad was German.... But unfortunately, I have some British humour in me... It was a jokey comment ... Not an insult
Free Saxon It was not taken as such😅
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 👍🏼 Now here's a question. I am returning to listening to music more seriously, after some 50 years or so. Unfortunately very limited budget. I wanted to be able to play local flac files. Thinking of the Majority Fitzwilliam, as it has a display and optical out, that I might be able to add an external DAC to later on. But can I ? Does optical out stream through ALWAYS, or is the stream reconverted? back to digital ?? I asked Majority but they knew nothing !!!
I don’t know the device so I can’t say. Sorry.
Higher sample rate reduces latency in the system. 384 khz will give you minimal latency, doing music for Tv,Film and Video games this is crucial.
For music only latency is of no consequence. I don't care if a son starts 50 ms earlier or later. Only when you do TV sound over your stereo, this is important. But in many AV receivers and some TV's you can sync the sound. Video processing takes a lot longer than audio so the audio can easily be delayed.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel not for a musician who is actively playing
Thanks Hans. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ " ... y hagas lo que hagas, disfrutá de la música"
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