Journalists are in a tough space now. I don't know if they're being diplomatic in their verdicts to keep the manufacturers happy or if the bikes are really at par with each other. Better format of ending would be " get the R15 if build quality and fuel economy is paramount to you, the RC 200 if you want a more aggressive and demanding motorcycle and you're willing to pay for the higher fuel bills and service costs." Personally for a beginner I'll suggest the R15 since the engine behaviour is more safer and less rapid than the KTM. At the same time it also has a brilliant chassis and committed ergonomics that help teach a serious learner, the art of motorcycling. Considering the traffic on our roads and the fact that many youngsters kind of suck at saving up money for things they really need, the R15 would be my pick. KTM demands more knowledge, sensitivity and attention from its owners. It's for the more committed young learner who knows exactly what he wants and is prepared to make the effort for it.
R15 is truely light on the pocket to maintain and run but its not as practical as the RC now. Its the RC that has the better seats, comfort for both rider and pillion, a lively motor, better mirrors, better brakes, and radial tyres for both front and back wheels. And both bikes can give hilariously low fuel efficiency numbers if you were to drive it like how its supposed to be driven but if driven with right throttle input, the yamaha edges out the RC naturally due to it being lower cc and that vva coming in handy at high revs. The avg difference is around 5-10 kmpl at best.
It’s just the difference being different kind of riders. And that’s the incredible part of having experienced riders like PD to work with. We had different preferences. And we had to agree to disagree.
Buddy. Having ridden both R15 and new RC200, I can say easily that RC200, is less aggressive of the two, on your wrists. Also, the quality and fitment of the both the bikes felt more or less same. Personally, here what I've seen over the years- Yamaha has dropped a bit in the quality and it shows after a year or two, it it's in the hands of a new, young squid. KTM on the other hand didn't have good quality as their pro to begin with, but they have gradually improved on it bit by bit. I especially love the cluster of KTM more than R15 or Gixxer. The fact that they don't have dual channel ABS in KTM still irks me As for the dynamics, R15 has a more committed, and it shows, but while R15 is more flickable of the two, the RC200 has a better stability or the two. As for the bills, it's true that RC have a higher ASS bills of the two.
@@subodhranjan2944 Great insights. Yeah even I feel that KTM has been slowly upping their game in terms of build quality. It's just a matter of people getting over the notion that Indian brands (since KTM here is made by Bajaj) sidelines quality control and at the same time it's also about our brands proving such notions wrong.
@@vivek1393 hi sir I am going to buy my first bike probably next year at 19 I am 5.10 and I hv shortlisted the rc and the r15m After 2 years do you have any inputs which bike would be better for me I am for daily college and on weekends maybe rides with friends
I am 48 years young BLOOD I am using yamaha R15 version 3 bs4 since 29 months i have completed 30000 kms only long ride even at 140+ there is no vibration in certain highways I have covered 250 kms within 3 hours 😎👌👍
Guys! A R15M vs RC200 vs Gixxer 250SF is something I'd love to watch. R15M is in the same price bracket as Gixxer and RC200, is more expensive of the lot!
As an R15m lover and owner, I wish there was around 50 cc more to it to bring more justice to it's sport legacy. It's super smooth on the highway though, head down and elbows touching the fuel tank at over 120 kmph.. feels like a video game on road! Suspension could have been gentler for the city conditions.
@@detoxyourself At 120 kmph obviously the engine sounds and feels aggressive and exciting overall. However, there are no vibrations that are felt in particular in any specific part of the bike. The the overall ride quality and handling is still great because of the increased downforce and the bike is happy to move from side to side with great control.
@Anugrah Johnson obviously it is agressive machine.... You will have slight pain but u can counter it with your posture and aslo feel of that bike let everything forgrt
In Real life Rc look more premium, give feel like big bike and looks more beautiful than R15. If you rider Rc and then R15 u feel like I'm riding small bike
Lol RC looks terrible with that visor and feels like I'm riding a bajaj bike as there are a lot of vibrations. Performance wise, you can't say RC gives a big bike feel. These under 250 cc bikes are small bikes. Be it rc, duke or r15. You need to go out on a r3 or ninja 300 at least to have a big bike feel as per Indian roads..
@@kakashihatake1929 The RC looks bad in pictures but good in the flesh. By big bike feel he means that the bike looks big up close. As for vibrations, it is a single cylinder engine squeezed hard for power. What do you expect? Even the 390 has vibrations.
@@kakashihatake1929 Did a test drive of the rc200 2 days ago. It had some vibs not gonna lie, but its the same as the r15, being a high compression single cylinder its bound to have vibrations. As for looks and driving feel, i would definitely go for the RC if i could sell my R15(which i had bought not long ago) cause the bikes feels better to drive and sit on. The power is there throughout the rev band so its not sleepy at any point of accelerating unlike the r15. After getting off and sitting on my r15, it definitely felt smaller compared to the RC. RC200 might not have the power of a liter class or even the 390 but its doesnt lack any bit of the fun factor we enthusiasts want.
Great comparison. Well done boys ! R15M is definitely more refined, better looking , lighter , has more colour options and gives value for money. R15M ❤️
Rc200 had the same outdated design for over 9 years..it really needed a design upgrade.. and ktm nailed it with this design..but it will take time for people to get used to it .
Looks wise r15 edges out the rc but everything else the rc takes the cake. Drove the rc200 today and the bike just felt lively throughout rev band unlike the r15. The seats felt better to sit on, the side mirrors were better, and overtakes were just easy. I own a r15 v3 btw
Yes mate gotta say the same. Gonna complete a year next month with my own V3 and yes I know why you said about the lively part. V3 takes a real long time to hit that sweet sport which is closer to the rev band plus the taller gearing takes it away. It also lacks the initial punch which can only be felt at the high rev band. But still love my V3 tho. It's purely made for track and highway purpose.
@@rajdhanraj9203 ha wo to proud moment hota hi ha Lekin koi rc wala banda agar tera r15 ko ghoor ke dekhega to isme proud hone wali kya baat ha chutiye? Show off kam kar aur thora jaan le proud ka matlab kya hota ha
I am a big fan of R15, loves its design and performance, however, if I am to choose then i will go for RC, because no doubt its robust and better looking.
@@vkAwesomee not a ktm fanboy but see it in real world the rc actually looks more premium and eye catching,the R15 design is good on paper but in real life it just looks another ordinary bike to be honest
The r15 is excellent in every sense, but the riding posture greatly hampers the comfort, hence its a no no for touring. so yamaha should launch a touring version of r15 alongside the regular r15
Lol the touring depends on how well you can take it. I did 250kms journey on my R15 V3 with just two breaks overall and didn't fell any fatigue or back pain other than minor pain in the hands. It's just one should get used to it.
@@jeevan88888 I'm 5'9. Never had any wrist of back pain after the first 1 hour of riding the bike from the showroom. Only my palm gets sore from twisting the throttle too much.
I understand what you mean. My friends who i ride with get back aches when they ride my bike. There is a certain way to ride a sport bike (and also you need a health backbone i guess?), but not placing your body weight on the hands reduces the pain during prolonged riding.
@@shabnoor KTM's after sale service and resale value a big thumbs down. You can literally get a under 10000 kms ridden 390 for less than 1.9 lkh. You will have to take it to a mechanic multiple times because of its poor engine and build quality m
@@kakashihatake1929 that's not true bro. My own Duke 390 has completed over 18000 km and infact it rides perfectly fine and I have never faced any engine issues. The only thing that I did was get it's timely services done and maintain it well. I haven't even needed to change the chain and sprocket sets yet. I believe it's all about maintenance, with a ktm you can't take chances because of its high compression ratios meaning hotter running engines so faster deterioration of the engine oil. But that's the price you pay for performance. The ktm's that you are talking about are ones that have been abused and by abuse I don't mean being ridden hard but not getting it serviced and changing the oil at the correct intervals.
@@jakgt500 KTM has quality issues the world over. Their bikes don't have to be abused to suffer from issues and a well built unit will not breakdown even under heavy abuse. Just look up blown head gaskets in the 390 and you will know what I am talking about.
I think R15 M is winner because 1. Sharp and Neatly Design 2. Colour Scheme will suit all the youngsters 3. Good Technology used like Quick shifter, Bluetooth Connectivity Display etc. 4. 30000 rs cheaper than RC 200 5. It has 155 cc engine which means more Milege than RC 200 6. Mostly this type of bikes is used for Short rides. So I didn't switch view to ktm Just for Comfort purpose and for long ride purpose.
Everybody knows practically how many of us go for highway...even once a year is difficult for me. 😂 City riding is done by 90% people...and in city or highway rc200 is damn perfect. I saw it in real life...it's too good looking guys trust me...and rc200 feels so powerfull good And overtaking is much easier on this 😍😍 Ktms are true love
@@SirKart True, Yamaha can offer a basic version without the traction control (or quickshifter, USD Forks) for an R20 and land it at under Rs.2.30 Lakh on road.
I think the r15m is just perfect for me. A bigger engine would mean lower mileage. Personally, don’t want that. If someone wants something more sporty, buy the RC200. So we do have an option that people need. Don’t change the R15.
I don't see much of a diffrence... Inspite of 160cc, The R15 M got some serious power with a reliability of yamaha. The KTM does'nt feel that much reliable.
Really loved the video... Especially the ending... The way the video has been put , it was a perfect ending because it would have been very difficult to choose one winner here...
R15 is Android RC is Apple, Everyone may use Android for more features and cheap, but deep inside they ❤️ RC for looks and brand quality, everyone can not afford them... You may not differentiate looks between r15v3 and r15m until u go to front view and observe carefully, but everyone will turn head when new RC passes, they may troll but everyone slowly loves it..
When I did my saddlesore, R15 showed it's mettle. But any bike can handle 1800 kms in 24 hours! But, when we did the Golden Quadrilateral in the chilly winters within 146 hours covering close to 6000 kms, R15 showed masterclass! Leh, Ladakh, Khardungla and several passes never gave any sort of back pain. Now a days, I have stopped carrying even the puncture kit in my long rides... And Kudos to the fuel efficiency
5 years back, i started my sportsbike journey on the rc200 when sarge convinced the prick from kothrud that the baby KTM was not supposed to be anything more than a tool to learn to ride fast through the corners. It was nosy with an aggressive front end. The dash was good enough just to know the speed and a vague idea of what rpm you were at. The gearbox was slick but punishing if you were in the wrong gear. Made you listen to the engine, observe the radius of the corner and the banking. And most of all, it looked like a futuristic sportsbike. I have tricked so many people by saying there is no rear seat. That pillion seat was a work of art. And now it's all gone. Feels like put together from the leftover parts bin. The front end looks horrendous. The sharp tail end is gone. The grabrail (seriously? Grabrail on a sportsbike?) makes it even more ugly. *sigh* it might perform better specs wise, but the emotions and character of the rc is gone. It's now a sports tourer. More sales for KTM, very likely. That's the way the world goes, i guess.
True, the old RC had the hardcore track machine appeal going for it. But it was not practical for the streets and it had heating issues. Most people who love their bikes will overlook these factors but the majority of people who buy these bikes will only own 1 bike in their garage, so making it somewhat practical was the right choice by KTM. What it lacks in looks, the new RC doesnt lack the old RC's characteristics. Its still fun to drive.
@Ashok Kalita it isn't great for anti theft but it just shows when the bike is last parked not engine on sensor nothing and if you ever want it to log milage u need to see if your bike is connected all the time
Well at this price I will go for r15m it has more realibility and yamaha always make good featured and milage bike and at this price range i will definitely suggest plz also check for Gixxer sf 250 it's good than rc200 anyday in terms of mileage , power and comfort also and weight is also same but if you want full sports bike want to learn wheelie stoppie or extremely hard leaning than r15m is good and rc too but for better realibility stability r15m is recommended and if you guys don't want extremely hard leaning than I will suggest definitely go for Gixxer sf 250 it's amazing 🔥
From a Gixxer 250 Owner, Thank you. Feels good when people actually realise the potential suzuki has but absolutely no motivation to sell them. Cheers & happy riding.
@@human2443 people but as an owner, I also feel special as I am part of that exclusive gixxer club which is not mainstream so there's a sense of pride in it as well. If Gixxer's were mainstream I don't think I'd feel that special about it but the reason it sells less also contributes to the added pride factor. Having recently completed a 800kms+ journey in the Tehri Garhwal region, I can say this is one of the top performers of the 200-250 cc class and an absolute delight to ride!
300CC bikes doesn't sell well in India, because they consume fuel like anything. That's the reason, yamaha is reluctant to release it's highier CC segment bikes in India. So, they would sell a few bikes compared to something like a R15, but it's not looking great for Yamaha at the moment, you could read their official segment. R25 is available in Indonesia, but they don't bring that here in India, that's why they are putting more effort and attention to their R15.
@@PabitraPadhy yes man the 300 and 400 cc segments don't sell that well. R25 or even a r2 would be better than r15 but yes maybe yamaha sees the legacy of 155cc motor right from 1st gen r15 and want to continue it.
Ktm my dream bike But no doubt yamaha new r15 v4 is a demon in looks wise in todays indias market Always on dilemma when i hv to choose between two bike
The most important thing that almost all comparos forget .... is the long term reliability.. durability... refinement.. cost of ownership.... the people buying such machines are from the middleclass.. who atleast use them for an average 5 years or more... the overall experience of ownership for a period of time should be a more deciding factor ... rather than the experience . .. perfomance etc when new...
Yamaha r15m is allrounder....good millage, amazing looks, features, Evan top end also damn good....and having this bike feels so amazing bcz I'm owning r15M💖
Rc has more power and better feel compared to the r15. I own a r15 and drove the rc200 today, and I literally felt the difference in power, comfort, and quality. I was zapping through the traffic with the rc compared to r15 which I usually have to rev it out to feel it's power
Why you should choose RC 200 over R15v4: 1. Rider Comfort is more 2. Better n practical pillion seat with grab rails n Mich more comfort then R15 3. Eye catchy design (subjective) 4. Power beast 5. Much Better night headlight area coverage than R15v4 6. Much better brakes 7. Supermoto ABS 8. Exhaust note 🔥 9. Better ride quality and build quality 10. Last n most imp. 50 percent contribution to Indian economy since Bajaj also owns part of it while in case of Yamaha all money will go outside.
The Gixxer is honestly an all rounder motorcycle for the price. Decent handling, Better power than these two and a better highway tourer. Checks every box in the 250cc segment
Look At thE BeasT Man!!!!! R15 Even With 155cc Engine is Competing with Other 200cc Bikes that Too with RC 200....uffff... Superb Bike #R15. i think it is the most value for money Bike in this Segment.!! 🥰
Damn the rcs looks are not actually that bad …it looks better then r15m for me .. i own mt15 i am not ktm boy but if i had choice i would go for rc200 ..
At 80-90kmph without turning on vva, I get around 55-65kmpl with constant throttle on the highways. In the cities I get as low as 14kmpl in stop and go traffic and 34-50 in regular loose traffic. It just comes down to how much throttle you use. Throttle control is key
I was cruising at 80-110 on highways for an hour continuous for 100kmph and it returned me around 50kmpl. It varies how you ride tbh. In city alway ride her at 5-6k rpm it will give your more.
The R15 would easily give 45 kmpl even in city. It has been consistent from the V1 to V4. On the other hand KTM sucks in fuel like anything. Yamaha service and parts availability is excellent pan India, where as KTM service sucks in most parts of India. Yamaha parts are cheap, KTM parts are hard to get even for KTM service centeres in India, KTM parts take significant effort to procure + you do not get them in open market. Don't go for performance, unless you're racing on a track, look for a good package. In that case R15 is an excellent choice for your everyday use. If you are into cars, then you might remember Koenigsegg made a car called "Koenigsegg One" Becaues it's top speed is in 1:1 ratio with it's weight. Although RC 200 is a 200 CC motorcycle, it'll never reach 200 kmph, on the other hand R15 easily reaches 150 kmph, that's a 1:1 ratio and solid Yamaha engineering. TIP: R15 upgrades are backward compatible, most of the time. e.g. slipper clutch, quick shifter and some other things can be just swapped into R15 V2 and added from their younger generations.
So Koenigsegg's top speed is 1341 kmph🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 are u really a car guy??, please check your facts before commenting!! the Koenigsegg one:1 has a power to weight ratio of 1:1,, not speed to weight 🤣 thats just absurd
@@PabitraPadhy well a big part of your argument was based on this "power to weight ratio",, so i assumed that it was not a typo, hence i cleared your facts. BTW happy new year brother🎊🎊🎉🎉
Is There Any Proof For Your Allegation 🙄 Has Any Reviewer Mentioned The Issue Of The Headlights Being Lackluster I Think The Headlamp In The V4 Is Better Than The V3 One
@@itzerisadomeeiot4980 then what's the point of comparing my man b'coz nearly everything can be modified and made better. By that logic a person can buy any vehicle they want then
@@itzerisadomeeiot4980 dude what I am talking about how should the bikes be compared, 90% of the buyer are not going to do modification in the engine with exhaust yes most of them would, that's why journalist cannot compare a aftermarket tuned vehicle with a factory tuned vehicle unless it's the same bike. Is that hard to understand? Or are you looking at that by some fanboy perspective
Why are we (as a biking nation) obsessed with small single cylinder underpowered motorcycles? Someone needs to change the game and produce some affordable performance bikes. Imagine an Inline 4 , 200 CC, producing 50-60 Bhp and about 40 Nm of torque - available for 4 Lakhs (maybe 4.5, not more). That's what we want.
Here are the reasons people here are obsessed with small single cylinder underpowered motorcycles •people here are obsessed with mileage •people are poor •the government adds high taxes to import bikes which are usually the ones which have more power •these bikes are comparatively cheap performance •even if people can afford the more powerful and better bikes, they would prefer to get a car as it's more practical and an expensive bike is an attention seeker and as you would know, people here in india are jealous and they just keep a bad eye to the owner And anyways, india is not a biking nation by choice, they are forced to use a bike. Most "bikers" I india aren't bikers, they use their bikes as a car because they can't afford a car
But they did. CBR250R was a masterstroke which failed miserably. If it released today it would see more sales. Unfortunately Honda and the world has moved on inferior motorcycles, thanks to cost conscious market.
The R15M is by far the most good looking 150cc bike in the market. Yamaha is realy doing good.
R15 V2 is the best looking
CF moto 300sr
@@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 the headlamp is just too big and the gas tank is too small for overall proportion
But not in price
Power dropped from 19.2bhp to 18.4bhp and the engine isn't made for city riding Because it doesn't have low end torque
Heart says R15 M
Mind says RC 200
Pocket says honda shine 😂😂😂
My pocket says bicycle
Have honda shine
Heart says Gixxer sf250
Mind says R15 m😂
Fuel pump says platina
Fingers typing "This is an old ass joke"
I own R15 v2 2016. I love it ❤
Journalists are in a tough space now. I don't know if they're being diplomatic in their verdicts to keep the manufacturers happy or if the bikes are really at par with each other. Better format of ending would be " get the R15 if build quality and fuel economy is paramount to you, the RC 200 if you want a more aggressive and demanding motorcycle and you're willing to pay for the higher fuel bills and service costs." Personally for a beginner I'll suggest the R15 since the engine behaviour is more safer and less rapid than the KTM. At the same time it also has a brilliant chassis and committed ergonomics that help teach a serious learner, the art of motorcycling. Considering the traffic on our roads and the fact that many youngsters kind of suck at saving up money for things they really need, the R15 would be my pick. KTM demands more knowledge, sensitivity and attention from its owners. It's for the more committed young learner who knows exactly what he wants and is prepared to make the effort for it.
R15 is truely light on the pocket to maintain and run but its not as practical as the RC now. Its the RC that has the better seats, comfort for both rider and pillion, a lively motor, better mirrors, better brakes, and radial tyres for both front and back wheels. And both bikes can give hilariously low fuel efficiency numbers if you were to drive it like how its supposed to be driven but if driven with right throttle input, the yamaha edges out the RC naturally due to it being lower cc and that vva coming in handy at high revs. The avg difference is around 5-10 kmpl at best.
It’s just the difference being different kind of riders. And that’s the incredible part of having experienced riders like PD to work with. We had different preferences. And we had to agree to disagree.
Buddy. Having ridden both R15 and new RC200, I can say easily that RC200, is less aggressive of the two, on your wrists. Also, the quality and fitment of the both the bikes felt more or less same. Personally, here what I've seen over the years-
Yamaha has dropped a bit in the quality and it shows after a year or two, it it's in the hands of a new, young squid.
KTM on the other hand didn't have good quality as their pro to begin with, but they have gradually improved on it bit by bit. I especially love the cluster of KTM more than R15 or Gixxer. The fact that they don't have dual channel ABS in KTM still irks me
As for the dynamics, R15 has a more committed, and it shows, but while R15 is more flickable of the two, the RC200 has a better stability or the two.
As for the bills, it's true that RC have a higher ASS bills of the two.
@@subodhranjan2944 Great insights. Yeah even I feel that KTM has been slowly upping their game in terms of build quality. It's just a matter of people getting over the notion that Indian brands (since KTM here is made by Bajaj) sidelines quality control and at the same time it's also about our brands proving such notions wrong.
@@vivek1393 hi sir I am going to buy my first bike probably next year at 19 I am 5.10 and I hv shortlisted the rc and the r15m
After 2 years do you have any inputs which bike would be better for me I am for daily college and on weekends maybe rides with friends
I am 48 years young BLOOD I am using yamaha R15 version 3 bs4 since 29 months i have completed 30000 kms only long ride even at 140+ there is no vibration in certain highways I have covered 250 kms within 3 hours 😎👌👍
I’m 35 and thought I was too old for this bike
Cheers for Yamaha lovers
@@Kanglei_investment_solutions Age is just a number man
I m 41 owning r15m now
@@rayeesrahman6870 I’m definitely buying this. Thank you all for the reassurance hehe
Guys!
A R15M vs RC200 vs Gixxer 250SF is something I'd love to watch.
R15M is in the same price bracket as Gixxer and RC200, is more expensive of the lot!
Thanks for the suggestion!
0:00 Breaking that 40 Degree Lean barrier was great especially for a 150 Motorcycle...Hope the stretcher had no sliders
As an R15m lover and owner, I wish there was around 50 cc more to it to bring more justice to it's sport legacy. It's super smooth on the highway though, head down and elbows touching the fuel tank at over 120 kmph.. feels like a video game on road!
Suspension could have been gentler for the city conditions.
Any or how much Vibration at 120 ????
@@detoxyourself At 120 kmph obviously the engine sounds and feels aggressive and exciting overall. However, there are no vibrations that are felt in particular in any specific part of the bike. The the overall ride quality and handling is still great because of the increased downforce and the bike is happy to move from side to side with great control.
Well the yamaha r series has r25 after r15 but the r25 is very much powerful for india as it has twin cylinder engine
They are saying 60kmpl on highway.
How much are you getting at constant 100 cruise??
yamaha makes more powerful bikes pls demand for thode bikee instead of murdering r15
The fact that i have to look at my bike every day
For that reason alone i would buy the r15 v4
Most excellent reason.. not the only reason.. but it is a good reason.
As for Safety, i feel like KTM is good because of Super good engine braking.
I owe R15M it looks catchy and attension seeker 😍❤️🔥
@Anugrah Johnson definitely
@Anugrah Johnson obviously it is agressive machine.... You will have slight pain but u can counter it with your posture and aslo feel of that bike let everything forgrt
Being a bajaj owner, i am falling in love with R15M every time i see it.
Proud to be an owner of R15 m looks are killing
@Ashok Kalita gps only shows where bike is parking if and only smartphone is connected at the time of parking.
dude you cant imagin how r15m engine can gave once u modify it
Yamaha R15M V4 looks Dope
That RC fit and finish is amazing
I love the new rc 200 look 🔥
me too man don't know why people hate it
@@jyotiradityapanigrahi2261 true💯
It's looking like just a faired version of duke200.
RC200 old one look is unique
@@jyotiradityapanigrahi2261 same question bro
Yeah it looks like a litre class bike..now..but you know chhapris would stick to the old design
One thing to add here is the bullet proof reliability of Yamaha engines that cannot be matched...also the service network of Yamaha Motors.
Agreed..
In Real life Rc look more premium, give feel like big bike and looks more beautiful than R15.
If you rider Rc and then R15 u feel like I'm riding small bike
Lol RC looks terrible with that visor and feels like I'm riding a bajaj bike as there are a lot of vibrations. Performance wise, you can't say RC gives a big bike feel. These under 250 cc bikes are small bikes. Be it rc, duke or r15. You need to go out on a r3 or ninja 300 at least to have a big bike feel as per Indian roads..
@@kakashihatake1929 The RC looks bad in pictures but good in the flesh. By big bike feel he means that the bike looks big up close. As for vibrations, it is a single cylinder engine squeezed hard for power. What do you expect? Even the 390 has vibrations.
@@kakashihatake1929 Did a test drive of the rc200 2 days ago. It had some vibs not gonna lie, but its the same as the r15, being a high compression single cylinder its bound to have vibrations. As for looks and driving feel, i would definitely go for the RC if i could sell my R15(which i had bought not long ago) cause the bikes feels better to drive and sit on. The power is there throughout the rev band so its not sleepy at any point of accelerating unlike the r15. After getting off and sitting on my r15, it definitely felt smaller compared to the RC. RC200 might not have the power of a liter class or even the 390 but its doesnt lack any bit of the fun factor we enthusiasts want.
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Great comparison. Well done boys ! R15M is definitely more refined, better looking , lighter , has more colour options and gives value for money. R15M ❤️
Hehe good to know where you stand!
Use kr ke dekh lo r15 ko value for money ekdm nhi hai
hehe go buy R15 then cry on RC whenever u see it on road
Rc200 had the same outdated design for over 9 years..it really needed a design upgrade.. and ktm nailed it with this design..but it will take time for people to get used to it .
Looks wise r15 edges out the rc but everything else the rc takes the cake. Drove the rc200 today and the bike just felt lively throughout rev band unlike the r15. The seats felt better to sit on, the side mirrors were better, and overtakes were just easy. I own a r15 v3 btw
Yes mate gotta say the same. Gonna complete a year next month with my own V3 and yes I know why you said about the lively part. V3 takes a real long time to hit that sweet sport which is closer to the rev band plus the taller gearing takes it away. It also lacks the initial punch which can only be felt at the high rev band. But still love my V3 tho. It's purely made for track and highway purpose.
Milage and maintenance cost should be kept in mind
@@horlicksft.bournvita4933 dont buy a fun to drive sports bike if mileages is your concern
@@horlicksft.bournvita4933 Get a Splendor buddy.
@@horlicksft.bournvita4933 if mileage is your concern then you shouldn't even consider sports/ performance segment bikes
The comparison i was waiting for 👍
Yaaasss! Thanks for letting us know!
From Amit Shah to Kancha Cheena. Nice transformation dude 👏
once a new ktm rc 200 rider stopped to watch my parked R15M and that was the proud moment..yamaha made such a beautiful bike❤️
That's really proud movement bro
Isme proud hone wali kya baat ha bsdk?
@@jimmyjayson7512 bhikmango ko nahi samjhega wo apni mehnet ke pese se cycle hi kharidle to bhi wo proud moment samjh ajayega tuje
@@rajdhanraj9203 ha wo to proud moment hota hi ha
Lekin koi rc wala banda agar tera r15 ko ghoor ke dekhega to isme proud hone wali kya baat ha chutiye? Show off kam kar aur thora jaan le proud ka matlab kya hota ha
I am a big fan of R15, loves its design and performance, however, if I am to choose then i will go for RC, because no doubt its robust and better looking.
better looking 😑
@@vkAwesomee 😂😂😂
@@vkAwesomee not a ktm fanboy but see it in real world the rc actually looks more premium and eye catching,the R15 design is good on paper but in real life it just looks another ordinary bike to be
honest
@@DarkHorse198 what the? The design is straight up from R7. 'Ordinary bike' lmao
@@nandh2455 r6 and r1 looks way better. The projector in the middle is distasteful
The r15 is excellent in every sense, but the riding posture greatly hampers the comfort, hence its a no no for touring. so yamaha should launch a touring version of r15 alongside the regular r15
Lol the touring depends on how well you can take it. I did 250kms journey on my R15 V3 with just two breaks overall and didn't fell any fatigue or back pain other than minor pain in the hands. It's just one should get used to it.
Thats called mt15 I guess
@@divyeshpatel1539 how tall are you? I guess it's a pain for ppl above 5'6 htt
@@jeevan88888 I'm 5'9. Never had any wrist of back pain after the first 1 hour of riding the bike from the showroom. Only my palm gets sore from twisting the throttle too much.
I understand what you mean. My friends who i ride with get back aches when they ride my bike. There is a certain way to ride a sport bike (and also you need a health backbone i guess?), but not placing your body weight on the hands reduces the pain during prolonged riding.
i agree to each and everything except the build quality. The R15 feels flimsy and cheap whereas the KTM is strong man build
buy indo or thai version then you wouldn't say cheap
@@topubaksh8316 koi logic h is bat ka
@@shabnoor KTM's after sale service and resale value a big thumbs down. You can literally get a under 10000 kms ridden 390 for less than 1.9 lkh.
You will have to take it to a mechanic multiple times because of its poor engine and build quality m
@@kakashihatake1929 that's not true bro. My own Duke 390 has completed over 18000 km and infact it rides perfectly fine and I have never faced any engine issues. The only thing that I did was get it's timely services done and maintain it well. I haven't even needed to change the chain and sprocket sets yet. I believe it's all about maintenance, with a ktm you can't take chances because of its high compression ratios meaning hotter running engines so faster deterioration of the engine oil. But that's the price you pay for performance. The ktm's that you are talking about are ones that have been abused and by abuse I don't mean being ridden hard but not getting it serviced and changing the oil at the correct intervals.
@@jakgt500 KTM has quality issues the world over. Their bikes don't have to be abused to suffer from issues and a well built unit will not breakdown even under heavy abuse. Just look up blown head gaskets in the 390 and you will know what I am talking about.
I think R15 M is winner because
1. Sharp and Neatly Design
2. Colour Scheme will suit all the youngsters
3. Good Technology used like Quick shifter, Bluetooth Connectivity Display etc.
4. 30000 rs cheaper than RC 200
5. It has 155 cc engine which means more Milege than RC 200
6. Mostly this type of bikes is used for Short rides. So I didn't switch view to ktm Just for Comfort purpose and for long ride purpose.
Everybody knows practically how many of us go for highway...even once a year is difficult for me. 😂
City riding is done by 90% people...and in city or highway rc200 is damn perfect.
I saw it in real life...it's too good looking guys trust me...and rc200 feels so powerfull good
And overtaking is much easier on this 😍😍
Ktms are true love
And mileage says r15 😅
Good to know which ones you like! Thank you!
Look at the fuel efficiency, i can believe it to be 60 with VVA as my V2 reached 60 kpl for quite sometime and then dropped later.
fuel efficiency of r15 v3 is at worst 14-34 and at best 45-60 kmpl in the city and highway respectively
How'd it drop?
@@vernontauro bro at that point of time it was high because of long rides regularly at low speeds and also had changed the RR unit that time
The idea of R18 or R2 is mesmerizing ✨🔥
Seriously! But price shouldn’t change.. not much..
@@SirKart True, Yamaha can offer a basic version without the traction control (or quickshifter, USD Forks) for an R20 and land it at under Rs.2.30 Lakh on road.
I think the r15m is just perfect for me. A bigger engine would mean lower mileage. Personally, don’t want that. If someone wants something more sporty, buy the RC200. So we do have an option that people need. Don’t change the R15.
It's good to hear open conversation about theses bikes than arguments
I've ridden both... RC ke brakes thode se sharp hone chahiyein the par jo bhi hai achha hai aur meri personal coice RC rahegi over R15
I don't see much of a diffrence... Inspite of 160cc, The R15 M got some serious power with a reliability of yamaha. The KTM does'nt feel that much reliable.
its lacking in the power department bro i dont get where it has serious power
exactly the comparo I was waiting for so long 😍😍 and yamaha R15M tat smokes in look
Thanks so much! And yeah it’s a looooker!
Tomorrow's the delivery of my R15M🥺❤️
You guys are awesome and thanks for helping us and guiding us for better decision.♥️
Thank you for being here and taking the time to comment!
shreyash kosambiya 😏 whats decision 🙈 you took RC or R15M and for highway 🥵 or city 🌆
Man, this is purely subjective but the previous model of RC200 looks much better
Bro watch near not in mobile it's so amazing
Haa Bhai lekin yeh bhi saamne se bohot sharp lagti hai
yes sir
Really loved the video... Especially the ending... The way the video has been put , it was a perfect ending because it would have been very difficult to choose one winner here...
R15 is Android
RC is Apple,
Everyone may use Android for more features and cheap, but deep inside they ❤️ RC for looks and brand quality, everyone can not afford them...
You may not differentiate looks between r15v3 and r15m until u go to front view and observe carefully, but everyone will turn head when new RC passes, they may troll but everyone slowly loves it..
Lol 😂😂😂 u r comparing yamaha with ktm....and saying apple to ktm ... Lol see how many unit ktm sell last December lol 😂😂😂
agree r15 is android you can modify much than an apple.. and there are to much parts
Probably the stupidest comparison i have ever seen
Both are such beautiful bikes! I would pick R15M for its looks over other things. Missing the CBR150R in the mix though :(
Will go with r15m just because of the mileage
Then you should buy a splendor/sport best in class mileage 😂
When I did my saddlesore, R15 showed it's mettle. But any bike can handle 1800 kms in 24 hours! But, when we did the Golden Quadrilateral in the chilly winters within 146 hours covering close to 6000 kms, R15 showed masterclass! Leh, Ladakh, Khardungla and several passes never gave any sort of back pain. Now a days, I have stopped carrying even the puncture kit in my long rides... And Kudos to the fuel efficiency
Because you are skinny 5ft 5inch guy
That's why bro
@@kshitizsingh244 yeah, very short for the adventurous heart
@@Renu007Kumar no bro don't take me wrong
That means it helps you
If you are tall like 6ft and weigh in 3digits then it's difficult
What's your height?
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Because I Bought that R15M 😈 Monster Energy Edition. The bike compromise you for longer but not RC can do simply you can spend for ⛽ Fuel
Bruh wtf are you saying?
Ride with a pillion, and your R15 will struggle hard
Very good comparison review 👏👏
Awesome comparision.
Yamaha R15 M is the best looking motorcycle in its class .. and it’s the best bike from Yamaha India.
Suzuki Gixxer 250 would've been the greatest beginner's sportsbike in this budget category had it not been for Suzuki's pathetic aftersales service.
Suzuki is not interested to sell bikes i think....in all its showrooms I've went all I see is access and burgman... literally everywhere...
So true, in fact they are beautiful looking as well, but the after sales is truly pathetic
Spend yourself on a FZ25 for a month, you will not touch the Suzuki again
It's true bikes are good and value for money but the after sale services are so horrible.
Love the rc 200 😍🔥
compare mt15v2 and duke 200 pls
5 years back, i started my sportsbike journey on the rc200 when sarge convinced the prick from kothrud that the baby KTM was not supposed to be anything more than a tool to learn to ride fast through the corners. It was nosy with an aggressive front end. The dash was good enough just to know the speed and a vague idea of what rpm you were at. The gearbox was slick but punishing if you were in the wrong gear. Made you listen to the engine, observe the radius of the corner and the banking. And most of all, it looked like a futuristic sportsbike. I have tricked so many people by saying there is no rear seat. That pillion seat was a work of art.
And now it's all gone. Feels like put together from the leftover parts bin. The front end looks horrendous. The sharp tail end is gone. The grabrail (seriously? Grabrail on a sportsbike?) makes it even more ugly. *sigh* it might perform better specs wise, but the emotions and character of the rc is gone. It's now a sports tourer. More sales for KTM, very likely. That's the way the world goes, i guess.
Ijjaathi Karachil 😝
True, the old RC had the hardcore track machine appeal going for it. But it was not practical for the streets and it had heating issues. Most people who love their bikes will overlook these factors but the majority of people who buy these bikes will only own 1 bike in their garage, so making it somewhat practical was the right choice by KTM. What it lacks in looks, the new RC doesnt lack the old RC's characteristics. Its still fun to drive.
@Akash Paul The whole point of the rc was to not be practical. To be good at just one thing. Attack corners hard and look cool while at it.
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So it actually became a motorcycle instead of a dollar store kit machine with two tyres...
I am proud owner of r15v4 racing blue
it's the best for Highway rides 😍
@RUN yaa only highway not for city 😁
@RUN USD and traction control work we'll during off-road
But I won't risk scratches on my fairing because of off-roading
@Ashok Kalita it isn't great for anti theft but it just shows when the bike is last parked not engine on sensor nothing and if you ever want it to log milage u need to see if your bike is connected all the time
You guys are awesome 👏! What a presentation you guys are done! Kudos to you both! Keep going
Bro! Thanks so much for the encouragement! Means a lottt!!
Sir Please Subtitle Bhi Daal Diya Karo😶 by the way thanks for this comparison❣️
Well at this price I will go for r15m it has more realibility and yamaha always make good featured and milage bike and at this price range i will definitely suggest plz also check for Gixxer sf 250 it's good than rc200 anyday in terms of mileage , power and comfort also and weight is also same but if you want full sports bike want to learn wheelie stoppie or extremely hard leaning than r15m is good and rc too but for better realibility stability r15m is recommended and if you guys don't want extremely hard leaning than I will suggest definitely go for Gixxer sf 250 it's amazing 🔥
From a Gixxer 250 Owner, Thank you. Feels good when people actually realise the potential suzuki has but absolutely no motivation to sell them. Cheers & happy riding.
@@bhagat2774 Gixxer is really a capable bike...but sad to see that people don't even know about it much...!
@@human2443 people but as an owner, I also feel special as I am part of that exclusive gixxer club which is not mainstream so there's a sense of pride in it as well. If Gixxer's were mainstream I don't think I'd feel that special about it but the reason it sells less also contributes to the added pride factor. Having recently completed a 800kms+ journey in the Tehri Garhwal region, I can say this is one of the top performers of the 200-250 cc class and an absolute delight to ride!
Bought an R15M and I'm in love this thing 💗
@Ashok Kalita nope.. I have a problem with my phone. After a security update the camara isn't working. So I couldn't scan the QR code.
There's no Winner..!! Here everyone is Challenger💪
Sir pls give clear verdict…. which one to buy???
Build quality of KTM RC 200 is lower than R15 4V fitting and finishing and aerodynamic blushing out or smoothly tell us
I too think that yamaha should upgrade to a r2 or r25.
300CC bikes doesn't sell well in India, because they consume fuel like anything.
That's the reason, yamaha is reluctant to release it's highier CC segment bikes in India.
So, they would sell a few bikes compared to something like a R15, but it's not looking great for Yamaha at the moment, you could read their official segment.
R25 is available in Indonesia, but they don't bring that here in India, that's why they are putting more effort and attention to their R15.
@@PabitraPadhy yes man the 300 and 400 cc segments don't sell that well. R25 or even a r2 would be better than r15 but yes maybe yamaha sees the legacy of 155cc motor right from 1st gen r15 and want to continue it.
Is a new RC 125 comming to eliminate the disadvantage and fullill the need of a city bike with all comfort and safety feature of RC 200??
Rc125 is not worth the buy. I can't think of a reason for anyone to go for the rc125 instead of a r15 or for 30k more the rc200
@@gtsishere difference between R15M and RC 200 is just 16K
Ktm my dream bike
But no doubt yamaha new r15 v4 is a demon in looks wise in todays indias market
Always on dilemma when i hv to choose between two bike
If you include track compare of both bikes it would be great to see. Because this bike made with more focus on track.
I love watching these guys talk
The most important thing that almost all comparos forget .... is the long term reliability.. durability... refinement.. cost of ownership.... the people buying such machines are from the middleclass.. who atleast use them for an average 5 years or more... the overall experience of ownership for a period of time should be a more deciding factor ... rather than the experience . .. perfomance etc when new...
Awesome video
Would buy r15 just because it doesn't have grab rails 😅
You can remove the grabrail
You don't want pillion ...eh?!
@@AbhishekSingh-nq4rh he most prolly rides with his gf n she has to grab him
In Indian roads, that ground clearance of R15 has some major advantages...
Yamaha r15m is allrounder....good millage, amazing looks, features, Evan top end also damn good....and having this bike feels so amazing bcz I'm owning r15M💖
which lake is that? whats the location can you plz tell would defineletly love to go there for a ride on weeeknd!!!
Its Yamaha Hands down! Do we need to compare it with others when its a legend!
Rc has more power and better feel compared to the r15. I own a r15 and drove the rc200 today, and I literally felt the difference in power, comfort, and quality. I was zapping through the traffic with the rc compared to r15 which I usually have to rev it out to feel it's power
Which is that song you played in 3:45
Comfortability and safety the YAMAHA always to offer!
Gixxer 250 and the SF 250 make so much more sense now. Suzuki should invest more in their marketing.
Suzuki: i sleep
Sucks
Yamaha better than Suzuki
Zigwheel guys when you are on tour hope you once come to Bangladesh ... you can enjoy newer sight and also I can meet you .... best wishes from me
Lot's of Love from kolkata Bengal
Why you should choose RC 200 over R15v4:
1. Rider Comfort is more
2. Better n practical pillion seat with grab rails n Mich more comfort then R15
3. Eye catchy design (subjective)
4. Power beast
5. Much Better night headlight area coverage than R15v4
6. Much better brakes
7. Supermoto ABS
8. Exhaust note 🔥
9. Better ride quality and build quality
10. Last n most imp. 50 percent contribution to Indian economy since Bajaj also owns part of it while in case of Yamaha all money will go outside.
Both are beautiful machines in their segment . Coming to value for money I strongly recommend Suzuki gixxer SF 250 . Please look in to that .
The Gixxer is honestly an all rounder motorcycle for the price. Decent handling, Better power than these two and a better highway tourer. Checks every box in the 250cc segment
But the front end lacks the looks we Indian want
U r the best guys
Im planning to buy 1 but cant decide which r15 or ktm
RC current version looks like first version and Previous RC looks like latest version
R15 looks more expensive and is more attracted! Whereas, RC doesn't!
Is rc200 mrf stock tyre or R15m mrf stock tyre better for ride corner??
Yes in dry conditions
Look At thE BeasT Man!!!!!
R15 Even With 155cc Engine is Competing with Other 200cc Bikes that Too with RC 200....uffff...
Superb Bike #R15.
i think it is the most value for money Bike in this Segment.!! 🥰
Damn the rcs looks are not actually that bad …it looks better then r15m for me .. i own mt15 i am not ktm boy but if i had choice i would go for rc200 ..
Top speed 153KMPH of R15 Bs6 2020 model tested on Buddha circuit NOIDA.
Make a video regarding your HIGHWAY Fuel Efficiency Test or atleast mention at what speed u test for the Highway Mileage.
It's confusing as of now.
Keep engine below 7k accelerate gradually to reach cruising speeds the R15 gives 55kmpl guarenteed.
At 80-90kmph without turning on vva, I get around 55-65kmpl with constant throttle on the highways. In the cities I get as low as 14kmpl in stop and go traffic and 34-50 in regular loose traffic. It just comes down to how much throttle you use. Throttle control is key
I was cruising at 80-110 on highways for an hour continuous for 100kmph and it returned me around 50kmpl. It varies how you ride tbh. In city alway ride her at 5-6k rpm it will give your more.
Most eye-catching bike is rc200. Especially gp edition. Cause i personally own it. And people looks. You have to see their faces
Any new upcoming 200 cc fully faired bike from tvs apache
Please do a comparison review of 2022 RC200 with RS200
The R15 would easily give 45 kmpl even in city. It has been consistent from the V1 to V4.
On the other hand KTM sucks in fuel like anything.
Yamaha service and parts availability is excellent pan India, where as KTM service sucks in most parts of India.
Yamaha parts are cheap, KTM parts are hard to get even for KTM service centeres in India, KTM parts take significant effort to procure + you do not get them in open market.
Don't go for performance, unless you're racing on a track, look for a good package.
In that case R15 is an excellent choice for your everyday use.
If you are into cars, then you might remember Koenigsegg made a car called "Koenigsegg One"
Becaues it's top speed is in 1:1 ratio with it's weight.
Although RC 200 is a 200 CC motorcycle, it'll never reach 200 kmph, on the other hand R15 easily reaches 150 kmph, that's a 1:1 ratio and solid Yamaha engineering.
TIP:
R15 upgrades are backward compatible, most of the time.
e.g. slipper clutch, quick shifter and some other things can be just swapped into R15 V2 and added from their younger generations.
So Koenigsegg's top speed is 1341 kmph🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 are u really a car guy??, please check your facts before commenting!!
the Koenigsegg one:1 has a power to weight ratio of 1:1,, not speed to weight 🤣 thats just absurd
@@aviiinash Yes power to weight ratio.
Man people go after you even for a typo.
Happy New Year 🥳
@@PabitraPadhy well a big part of your argument was based on this "power to weight ratio",, so i assumed that it was not a typo, hence i cleared your facts. BTW happy new year brother🎊🎊🎉🎉
Can u please shut up with ur biasness
The day yamaha will launch 200 cc R1 m ...all 200 cc segment gonna crush brutally
Will price it 3 lakhs for sure😂
Dunno wat m doing even though I own a rr310...maybe jz cuz I love zigwheels vidz and the 2 legendary bike reviewers
Any update on HONDA CBR 150R?
Waiting for the bike for last 1 year. 🥲
The RC is better to ride at night. The R15's headlight is a nightmare.
Is There Any Proof For Your Allegation 🙄 Has Any Reviewer Mentioned The Issue Of The Headlights Being Lackluster I Think The Headlamp In The V4 Is Better Than The V3 One
I personally own a r15 v4 dark knight and I would say this is a baseless allegation on sucha pure gem!
Arre bhai tu ek kaam kr flood light lgwa liyo 😆
i own a v4 racing blue, the headlight of the v4 is surprisingly doable at night. v3 and mt15s are a nightmare though in headlight department
@@athish-REAL rc's headlights are better than the ones in the r15 but the r15's headlights are no slouch either
Mileage- @ 9:44
Badly planned but well executed product (undersquare Yamaha? Seriously?) vs well planned but badly executed product!
True
its not bad... r15m lacks engine power only but once you modify the engine it will just eat that ugly rc
@@itzerisadomeeiot4980 then what's the point of comparing my man b'coz nearly everything can be modified and made better.
By that logic a person can buy any vehicle they want then
@@ranjanasinha5565 if you have not open an engine on both bikes your mind as emty as a tank
@@itzerisadomeeiot4980 dude what I am talking about how should the bikes be compared, 90% of the buyer are not going to do modification in the engine with exhaust yes most of them would, that's why journalist cannot compare a aftermarket tuned vehicle with a factory tuned vehicle unless it's the same bike. Is that hard to understand? Or are you looking at that by some fanboy perspective
Make a drag race video of SF250 vs R15M vs Rc200
Why are we (as a biking nation) obsessed with small single cylinder underpowered motorcycles? Someone needs to change the game and produce some affordable performance bikes. Imagine an Inline 4 , 200 CC, producing 50-60 Bhp and about 40 Nm of torque - available for 4 Lakhs (maybe 4.5, not more). That's what we want.
Here are the reasons people here are obsessed with small single cylinder underpowered motorcycles
•people here are obsessed with mileage
•people are poor
•the government adds high taxes to import bikes which are usually the ones which have more power
•these bikes are comparatively cheap performance
•even if people can afford the more powerful and better bikes, they would prefer to get a car as it's more practical and an expensive bike is an attention seeker and as you would know, people here in india are jealous and they just keep a bad eye to the owner
And anyways, india is not a biking nation by choice, they are forced to use a bike. Most "bikers" I india aren't bikers, they use their bikes as a car because they can't afford a car
But they did. CBR250R was a masterstroke which failed miserably. If it released today it would see more sales. Unfortunately Honda and the world has moved on inferior motorcycles, thanks to cost conscious market.
@@k-trailblazer cbr250r was a sports tourer at best, it wasnt anything more. And it had a 1 cylinder engine not 4.
When Rc 390 2022 is launching?