Complex Fibonacci Numbers?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
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    CORRECTIONS
    This was a long video and in hindsight there are a few things I wish I had phrased better. Here they all are:
    - I misspoke around 01:13 when I said "negative one, zero" as it is clearly "negative one, one, zero".
    - At 07:53 I mean the negative values -5 to 0. I said it a weird way.
    - My language at about the 1D input to 2D plot from 09:17 is a bit sloppy. The real values going into the Binet function are not the horizontal axis shown; the plot onscreen is solely the output.
    - I say "axis" when I mean "plane" or even "complex plane". The big flat thing.
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  • @3blue1brown
    @3blue1brown 3 года назад +4753

    Whoa.

  • @Dodgerific
    @Dodgerific 3 года назад +2206

    I like the Fibonacci series where you start with 0, 0. Its easy to remember

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 3 года назад +199

      I can even calculate any item in that sequence in my head ;)

    • @NStripleseven
      @NStripleseven 3 года назад +83

      The formula for a term in the sequence is the simplest I’ve ever seen

    • @darthgeeek
      @darthgeeek 3 года назад +40

      Math truly is amazing

    • @cmyk8964
      @cmyk8964 3 года назад +51

      Ah yes, the sequence that correctly predicts the exciting things that happens in my life

    • @minerforstone4136
      @minerforstone4136 2 года назад +35

      I love how you choose the simplest possible sequence and it's "golden ratio" is undefined

  • @punpcklbw
    @punpcklbw 3 года назад +1875

    The moments when his amazed face perfectly merges with himself are really trippy. Nice touch =P

    • @niccy266
      @niccy266 3 года назад +53

      It's called the buttercup challenge, he links it at the bottom of the description

    • @ryla22
      @ryla22 3 года назад +13

      It made me look up the song
      Really good song

    • @tomppeli0
      @tomppeli0 3 года назад

      @@niccy266 1

    • @mrss649
      @mrss649 3 года назад +2

      Lol yes

    • @flisboac
      @flisboac 3 года назад +4

      Kinda freaks me out, tho

  • @BH-2023
    @BH-2023 3 года назад +701

    Well, I mean... the Fibonacci sequence was discovered thinking about the ideal procreation of rabbits, and it's pretty hard to have a negative rabbit mate with a positive rabbit

    • @themathaces8370
      @themathaces8370 2 года назад +123

      That's what mathematicians do... Extending simple ideas to random dimensions...

    • @jayfredrickson8632
      @jayfredrickson8632 2 года назад +112

      You can but then they mutually annihilate and you get a huge explosion

    • @reubenmanzo2054
      @reubenmanzo2054 2 года назад +66

      They say opposites attract, don't they?

    • @fders938
      @fders938 2 года назад +70

      Don't even get started with imaginary and 4D rabbits

    • @mr_waffles_the_dog
      @mr_waffles_the_dog 2 года назад +1

      All you have to do is swing the rabbits around your head at a moderate fraction of the speed of light, and you get a handy anti-rabbit

  • @robspiess
    @robspiess 3 года назад +4818

    Fun fact: Phi (1.618) is really close to the ratio between miles and kilometers (1.609) which means you can use adjacent Fibonacci numbers to quickly mentally convert back and forth between them.
    For instance: 89 miles is nearly 144 km (it's actually 143.2), or 21 kilometers is roughly 13 miles (13.05).
    You can even shift orders of magnitude to do longer distances! e.g., 210 miles is around 340 km (multiplying 21 and 34 by 10) which is close to the actual answer of 337.96 km.

    • @witerabid
      @witerabid 3 года назад +197

      🤯

    • @nuklearboysymbiote
      @nuklearboysymbiote 3 года назад +251

      OH MY GOD

    • @Kebabrulle4869
      @Kebabrulle4869 3 года назад +130

      I use this trick all the time, it’s so useful

    • @jonathanfeller
      @jonathanfeller 3 года назад +249

      I find it easier to just do x+(x/2)+(x/10)

    • @XMarkxyz
      @XMarkxyz 3 года назад +156

      Finally a good way to do it quickly, but I still think the imperial units are hideous, just a little less than what I thought before

  • @NyscanRohid
    @NyscanRohid 3 года назад +2223

    φ : Let's see what's at the end of this infinite sum...
    φ : π!?
    π : Hey.
    φ : What are you doing in complex space?
    π : I work here. It's my job to be here at all times.

    • @weckar
      @weckar 3 года назад +298

      π : I was here long before you got here, and will be here long after you leave.

    • @mr.champion7304
      @mr.champion7304 3 года назад +98

      *rational numbers in geometric sequences intensifies*

    • @FourthDerivative
      @FourthDerivative 3 года назад +141

      "Wait, it's all pi?"
      "Always has been"

    • @sharpfang
      @sharpfang 3 года назад +127

      C'mon. You've messed with complex numbers. How are you *not* expecting a π there? Also, mandatory e, this time wearing the disguise of 'ln'

    • @lucyf6516
      @lucyf6516 3 года назад +17

      sharpfang dude most people don’t intuitively know that pi has something to do with the complex plane lol. I’m sure you’re very smart. Here’s a gold star ⭐️.

  • @brian554xx
    @brian554xx 3 года назад +321

    I've always preferred the 0, 1 start. With these numbers often found in nature, adding a moment of creation feels profound.

    • @rarebeeph1783
      @rarebeeph1783 2 года назад +23

      it also feels even simpler than a 1, 1 start, like if you had to enumerate all the possible starts, you'd start something like "(0, 0); (0, 1)"

    • @KarstenJohansson
      @KarstenJohansson Год назад +12

      I think both are found in nature. In some spiraled plants, there is a gap in the center which is effectively 0. Others have something in the center which is effectively 1. Until your comment, I'd never considered that. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of fib-nth() functions consider the 1st nth to be 0.

  • @asailijhijr
    @asailijhijr 3 года назад +625

    Missed opportunity: you could have had your amazed face trace the path of the graph shown on the screen at the time.

    • @jamesthomas3871
      @jamesthomas3871 3 года назад +32

      I think he tried. It was awfully close, wasn't it?!

    • @arranmcgown2386
      @arranmcgown2386 3 года назад +7

      I thought he was going to

    • @pronounjow
      @pronounjow 3 года назад +21

      He sure Parker Squared that one!

  • @haydenhoes12
    @haydenhoes12 3 года назад +894

    this aint no sit down maths. we standin up now

    • @Vaaaaadim
      @Vaaaaadim 3 года назад +30

      Rise up gamers

    • @volodyadykun6490
      @volodyadykun6490 3 года назад +41

      I think Matt isn't stand-up comedian, he's sitting all the video, he's more of sit-down comedian

    • @thecuriousgorilla6005
      @thecuriousgorilla6005 3 года назад +2

      Calm down Nolan

    • @standupmaths
      @standupmaths  3 года назад +106

      Ha. I’m filming in a small room at home during the lock-down.

    • @demonking86420
      @demonking86420 3 года назад +11

      He's doing the Parker Square equivalent for standing up (dead meme I know)

  • @brianwestley6985
    @brianwestley6985 3 года назад +445

    The Fibonacci convention was huge this year -- it was as large as the previous two put together.
    ThankyouladiesandgermsI'llbehereallweektrythechicken

    • @zaraak323i
      @zaraak323i 3 года назад +8

      Tipyourwaiters!

    • @quesoestbonne
      @quesoestbonne 3 года назад +4

      @Idiot Online Wondering Aloud 👏, 👏, 👏👏,👏👏👏,👏👏👏👏👏,👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏,👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.....

    • @stevemattero1471
      @stevemattero1471 3 года назад +2

      Wait there's a fibonacci CONVENTION??? When and where!?

    • @demonking86420
      @demonking86420 3 года назад +4

      Oh get the heck out, I just got that

    • @Lawrencelot89
      @Lawrencelot89 3 года назад +26

      @@stevemattero1471 Location: just add the coordinates of the locations of the last two conventions. Time: just add the dates of the previous two conventions to get the new date.

  • @dragoncurveenthusiast
    @dragoncurveenthusiast 3 года назад +294

    I have to say, I'm a tiny bit disappointed that his amazed face didn't follow the graph. It even pointed at his face!
    6:45

  • @claytrav2153
    @claytrav2153 3 года назад +349

    The line looks like my Doctors Signiature

    • @georgplaz
      @georgplaz 3 года назад +6

      underappreciated comment!

    • @AlanTheBeast100
      @AlanTheBeast100 3 года назад +12

      Looks like my doc's prescription for ... well anything and everything.

    • @Darqice
      @Darqice 3 года назад +6

      I'm actually thinking of trying to align my signature to this plot just for my internal giggles :D Would also make a nice company logo.

  • @HugoBDesigner
    @HugoBDesigner 3 года назад +905

    The synchronized "Matt Parker's Maths Puzzles" cards were... _chef kiss_

    • @standupmaths
      @standupmaths  3 года назад +128

      thankyouverymuch

    • @caster-
      @caster- 3 года назад +12

      I hadn't even noticed! Very nicely done!

    • @Danilego
      @Danilego 3 года назад +22

      6:49 this is so oddly satisfying

    • @Nate9273
      @Nate9273 3 года назад +3

      MammamiaDasAhSpicyMeatball

    • @hecko-yes
      @hecko-yes 3 года назад +2

      a channel after my own heart

  • @brandonfrancey5592
    @brandonfrancey5592 3 года назад +97

    I was waiting for the line, "And so I contacted Ben yet again and for some reason he blocked me and stopped responding to my e-mails."

  • @sxygrandpa8061
    @sxygrandpa8061 3 года назад +241

    The Binet formula for the Lucas sequence is actually simpler than the Fibonacci sequence: (ϕ)^n + (-1/ϕ)^n = nth Lucas number

  • @derrickmelton5844
    @derrickmelton5844 3 года назад +384

    This reminds me of an experiment I did with Conway's life. I started wondering what would happen using the standard life rules with a bounded game, but set a cutoff for how many steps the game would iterate. I then took the union of each iteration of the previous game to create a seed for a new game, and continued to repeat the process.
    I mainly was doing this to see if you could use GOL to generate interesting height maps when I found an interesting property. For some reason if my iteration value was 2 meaning 2 distinct steps after the initial state to create a new input, the mean value of my bounded inputs approached pi. When they surpassed pi they would eventually trend back down to pi.
    I have no idea why pi arose because I am not that skilled at math, but I still wonder why that generation of inputs for a board state would trend towards it. The most I discovered was that method of generation retained symmetry if it existed in the initial board state meaning a blob in the very center would create symmetry along the diagonal, horizontal, and vertical axes.

    • @av3stube480
      @av3stube480 3 года назад +40

      Okay I lack the mental capacity to imagine what you did but I'm really interested in why would Pi appear there...

    • @adityaekbote8498
      @adityaekbote8498 2 года назад +21

      Yo idk what you are saying but that looks exciting let us know if you find anything

    • @creativenametxt2960
      @creativenametxt2960 2 года назад +3

      Interesting.
      Would you provide more details?

    • @pranavkondapalli9306
      @pranavkondapalli9306 2 года назад +18

      you did an experiment with 'Conway's life' lmao what
      PS: ik what GoL is

    • @trickytreyperfected1482
      @trickytreyperfected1482 2 года назад +16

      @@pranavkondapalli9306 wow, I didn't even notice that first read through. That's an unfortunate typo for OP to make.

  • @davidgrupp7662
    @davidgrupp7662 3 года назад +262

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the editing involved for the amaze face

    • @Woe_YT
      @Woe_YT 3 года назад +13

      Its actually pretty simple, you just cut a still from a frame of the video and then move it to the time and place in the video in reverse. It is a cool effect though.

  • @hexeddecimals
    @hexeddecimals 3 года назад +176

    Now I want to see a 3b1b style animation of the 2d inputs moving around to their 2d outputs

    • @fibbooo1123
      @fibbooo1123 3 года назад +12

      One of the “results” of the 3b1b videos is exponentiation moves complex numbers around in circles- so presumably like that? But maybe not since there are 2 exponentiations being added

    • @volodyadykun6490
      @volodyadykun6490 3 года назад +11

      Also just all the colours ordered as inputs mapping to their outputs

    • @violetsteele350
      @violetsteele350 2 года назад

      He commented on this vid. You could comment on his commeng

  • @connorconnor2421
    @connorconnor2421 3 года назад +8

    5:34 this excites me uncontrollably
    it's impossible not to smile

    • @tony_yt5967
      @tony_yt5967 2 года назад +2

      “Ofc you’re dividing it by the sq root of 5, big fan!”😂😂made me happy made me smile nice 👍🏽

  • @DjImpossibility
    @DjImpossibility Год назад +5

    Gosh darn it, now I want to look at Fibonacci quarternions!

  • @bacon.cheesecake
    @bacon.cheesecake 3 года назад +115

    I've always been a fan of the 0, 1 start, glad to see it got some recognition

    • @andymcl92
      @andymcl92 3 года назад +12

      I too like that start, although the 1,1 makes most sense with the origin story (breeding rabbits).

    • @OscarCunningham
      @OscarCunningham 3 года назад +11

      @@andymcl92 In the 1st generation you have one pair of young rabbits and no mature rabbits. So in the 0th generation you must have one pair of mature rabbits and one pair of young antirabbits. Then the mature rabbits give birth to the young pair we see in the 1st generation, but there are no mature rabbits left in the 1st generation because the antirabbits grow up and annihilate them.

    • @Chris_Cross
      @Chris_Cross 3 года назад +3

      But to me, it doesn't seem like it should work. The reason there is the two "1"s is because there's nothing before it.
      So if you start at 0, there's nothing before it, so you put another 0. "0, 0". But then, if you try to make the sequence by adding the two previous numbers to get the next, it just becomes and infinite string of "0"s.

    • @peglor
      @peglor 3 года назад +7

      I like to start with two zeros - makes the maths much simpler...

    • @crustyoldfart
      @crustyoldfart 3 года назад +2

      Why not make it completely general and start with the integers A,B ? So the series progresses A,B,A+B,A+2*B,2*A+3*B,3*A+5*B.... And we see that adjacent Fibonacci numbers occur in the coefficients. We can legitimately make A,B anything we chose including +ve and -ve values chosen at random.

  • @duskyrc1373
    @duskyrc1373 3 года назад +274

    Heh, that random pi at the end. That's something I love about maths, if you're ever hungry you never have to go far to find a delicious pi.

    • @vblaas246
      @vblaas246 3 года назад +7

      I want to know why though. Is it because every periodic system has a (circumpherence/2r)*dt relation? What about an 'oval', it can always be projected back to a circle right? Giving you a pi in every periodic system somewhere?

    • @TheBasikShow
      @TheBasikShow 3 года назад +19

      V Blaas I’m not sure exactly why this particular pi shows up, but complex analysis is absolutely riddled with pi so it isn’t that surprising. In particular, this function is made of exponentials, and complex exponentials are inextricably linked with pi.

    • @ottolehikoinen6193
      @ottolehikoinen6193 3 года назад +2

      2/5ths make it sound he could've used τau and get rid of the pesky 2.

    • @wilddogspam
      @wilddogspam 3 года назад +1

      @@ottolehikoinen6193 2/5 * 1/π =4/5 * 2/τ though.

    • @criskity
      @criskity 3 года назад +2

      @@TheBasikShow I remember when I took Complex Analysis in college, the answer to the exercises we did was almost always pi. If not, it was zero, 2pi, or pi/2.

  • @PLASMATIER
    @PLASMATIER 3 года назад +45

    The positive only values look like a growing spiral from the side, while the negatives create a spiral we serve head-on. If you used them as different POV, you could maybe plot out the tips of leaves or the sharp bits of a pinecone. It's really neat..

  • @clockworkkirlia7475
    @clockworkkirlia7475 3 года назад +44

    This is just such a cool maths revelation, with an amazing payoff and one of the absolute best editing jokes I've ever seen. That's pi outta pi from me, even if I apparently can't read 3d plots very well.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 3 года назад +395

    To explore this further would clearly require a large investment of time and effort. I suggest you apply for a Grant. Sanderson, ideally.

    • @pamdemonia
      @pamdemonia 3 года назад +35

      I see what you did there and I approve!

    • @anirudhranjan7002
      @anirudhranjan7002 3 года назад +12

      For those who don't know, Grant Sanderson is the host of 3Blue1Brown

    • @anuwamy969
      @anuwamy969 3 года назад

      @@anirudhranjan7002 he already comment

  • @HipNerd
    @HipNerd 3 года назад +48

    The ‘face’ bits were great. Nice effect.

  • @StrangeIndeed
    @StrangeIndeed 3 года назад +5

    1:34 I just love Matt's humor, where he randomly does stuff, never addresses it, etc. Plz never change

  • @andrewholaway4113
    @andrewholaway4113 2 года назад +41

    I love that you've made a living of messing around with interesting numbers and sharing it with us. I used to do things like this on my TI-86 graphing calculator, but never got far enough to make these kinds of incredible graphs (it was far beyond my mathematical understanding). Thanks for sharing your passion!

  • @SeptimusBlyth
    @SeptimusBlyth 3 года назад +108

    19:44 Here comes Matt’s π day calculation 2021.

    • @twojuiceman
      @twojuiceman 3 года назад +12

      I thought the same thing. Use that absurd formula for area under the curve to calculate pi

  • @Chlorate299
    @Chlorate299 3 года назад +108

    Find someone who looks at you with the same excitement that Matt gets around numbers.

    • @georgplaz
      @georgplaz 3 года назад +7

      with detached heads floating in space? no thanks!

  • @DavidDyte1969
    @DavidDyte1969 3 года назад +24

    That was really sweet. I saw the title and started trying to imagine an equation describing a curve like that, with zeroes where the Fibonacci numbers are. Didn't realize that such an elegant parameterized version already existed.

  • @jacobwolf5640
    @jacobwolf5640 3 года назад +49

    Very interesting, that plot of the Binet sequence appears to spell out 'Jeremy Bearimy'...

    • @pedrosso0
      @pedrosso0 2 года назад

      Jeremy Bearimy you say?

  • @qwertyuiopzxcfgh
    @qwertyuiopzxcfgh 3 года назад +48

    "What a stupid idea! Who wants a video about Fibonacci numbers at 3 in the morning!?"
    Matt Parker: "Oh boy, 3 AM!"

    • @soupisfornoobs4081
      @soupisfornoobs4081 3 года назад +4

      Now me at GMT+2, knowing sleep is a social construct

    • @alexandermcclure6185
      @alexandermcclure6185 Месяц назад

      Literally anyone awake at 0300 just wants something to do.

  • @scanerang
    @scanerang 3 года назад +84

    3Blue1Brown has a nice way to represent 4D graphs. What he does is draw the transformed gridlines of the input space. It's like what you did with the graph with the real number line as input.

    • @olmostgudinaf8100
      @olmostgudinaf8100 3 года назад +17

      Did no one think of using colour for the 4th dimension?

    • @MPSpecial
      @MPSpecial 3 года назад +1

      He also used colour gradients in another video (about finding the zeros of a complex function I believe)

    • @f.p.5410
      @f.p.5410 3 года назад +3

      Those graphs don't always look good, and they can even be more confusing for non-injective functions.
      Watch 3b1b video on Riemann's zeta, the map looks cool but it doesn't tell you anything about the function. You can't really recognize slopes and shapes, it's a mess.
      Unfortunately, this function looks like the kind of function which would be too messy to represent as a grid mapping.

    • @f.p.5410
      @f.p.5410 3 года назад +3

      @@olmostgudinaf8100 Yes, and it's really useful from a topological perspective. For example, a Klein bottle is quite intuitive if you colour the overlapping part because you can see the neck part moving in the "colour dimension".
      It's less useful for complex functions because you can't really see slopes. It's hard to tell if a colour is shifting at a parabolic/exponential rate. It's still used a lot through a plotting technique called domain colouring, but it's still not a perfect way to plot complex functions. There isn't a perfect way unfortunately, you'll always have some drawbacks.

    • @teamupleft7097
      @teamupleft7097 3 года назад

      What about two overlapping 3d surfaces attached to the 2D complex plane? Like the thumbnail for this video but with one real surface and one imaginary surface.

  • @Poldx
    @Poldx 3 года назад +4

    6:50 - next level videoediting - I love it

  • @BrodieEaton
    @BrodieEaton 3 года назад +15

    Matt just looks so happy, and it makes me happy. This is actually a really cool find! Well done!

  • @mangusto666
    @mangusto666 3 года назад +121

    You could utilize time representing one variable. An animated 3D graphic may be used to visualize a 4D equation.

    • @himanbam
      @himanbam 3 года назад +15

      You can kinda already do that with his program by sliding the complex input value.

    • @sherlock_norris
      @sherlock_norris 3 года назад +13

      Or you can colorcode the complex plane and then color it according to the complex output.

    • @elvis_mello
      @elvis_mello 3 года назад +5

      That seems like something a physicist would do

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 3 года назад

      Yes! I want to see this!

    • @davidpalomino9138
      @davidpalomino9138 Год назад

      While this does work in theory, it's not going to be like what most may imagine. Since the full plot is a 2D manifold embedded in 4 spacial dimensions, a 3D cross section would just be a 1D manifold embedded in 3 spacial dimensions.

  • @sacielo
    @sacielo 3 года назад +27

    The "other" thing I loved about this was the "how we got there" story. A great example of the mindset to approach problems scientifically and what to look for :)

    • @OH-pc5jx
      @OH-pc5jx 3 года назад +2

      Yeah I really liked this video start to finish - but I *really* wish he’d done a domain colouring/colour wheel plot!! I find them so much more intuitive

  • @DerKlappspaten
    @DerKlappspaten 3 года назад +64

    6:44 actually looks like an inwards spiral beeing (exponentially) accelerated to the right

    • @PiercingSight
      @PiercingSight 3 года назад +5

      That was my thought too. Could help explain why pi shows up a few times. The Fibonacci numbers may just be a 1d slice of a 2d projection of a 3d spiral.

    • @mryellow4633
      @mryellow4633 2 года назад +3

      Wow interesting observation. Meanwhile the negative numbers in the Binet formula formed an actual spiral 7:09. If the positive inputs can be described as an "inward spiral" then the negative numbers would be an outward spiral.

    • @kylecow1930
      @kylecow1930 2 года назад +3

      Yeah it is!!, the (-phi)^-n term acts as a spiral exponentially decresing in radius and the phi^n acts to push the centre of the spiral to the right exponentially

  • @mosconirmg
    @mosconirmg 3 года назад +12

    When I learned Fibonacci sequence in 99 (i was 15), I tried to extended backwards, but I lacked the math to understand this whole "bi infinite" sequence.
    Watching this video was a real time travel to the past.
    Nice work!

  • @eldabys
    @eldabys 3 года назад +293

    playing buttercup while he does the amazed face... LMAO

    • @zozzy4630
      @zozzy4630 3 года назад +16

      Started reading through the comments hoping someone had already ID'd the song for me. Thank you

    • @ALZlper
      @ALZlper 3 года назад +4

      @@zozzy4630 You mean Darude Sandstorm?

    • @Rabbit-the-One
      @Rabbit-the-One 3 года назад +3

      @@ALZlper I think he does indeed mean Sandstorm by Darude.

    • @colinsanders3124
      @colinsanders3124 3 года назад +2

      @@ALZlper The song is Buttercup by Jack Stauber

    • @colinsanders3124
      @colinsanders3124 3 года назад +2

      @@zozzy4630 ruclips.net/video/e2qG5uwDCW4/видео.html

  • @TheNefari
    @TheNefari 3 года назад +66

    i just realised that the curve that goes through 1 twice is actually a spiral/cone looked at from the side :D

    • @Microtherion
      @Microtherion 3 года назад +3

      I think it could even be described as an 'epicycle'.
      (Oy, Ptolemy: no! I respect your attempt to maintain the geometric integrity of our planet's immediate locality, but if you was to come round here, and start arranging *my furniture* into a highly idiosyncratic theological exegesis, I would say - 'Ptolemy, nooo! Outside now! You are not in the bustling multicultural milieu of ancient Alexandria. This is Lambeth. Now get your pharaonic physog out of my impromptu courtyard knees-up, you stripy antediluvian muppet!' Etc). :)

  • @yukelalexandre8885
    @yukelalexandre8885 3 года назад +1

    Hell yes! Been thinking about this for two years but couldn’t visualize it without the tools!

  • @usageunit
    @usageunit 3 года назад +15

    Can't wait to see the quaternionic version of this video!

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 2 года назад +2

      Quaternions don't really add much beyond more complex planes (which is very useful when doing 3D rotations). The dual and split-complex numbers on the other hand do have some interesting behavior, but neither can act as a square root of -1.

  • @GunganWorks
    @GunganWorks 3 года назад +13

    The amazed face absolutely cracked me up!!!

  • @mr.neverspeaks7884
    @mr.neverspeaks7884 3 года назад +201

    I “enjoy” math and this is WAY out of my understanding of math ,but I just love the content. Thank you!

    • @Ragnarok540
      @Ragnarok540 3 года назад +15

      I was going to say this is not complex at all but yeah, is a bit complex. Get it? Is easy, thought, except for the 4D visualization part.

    • @sebastianjost
      @sebastianjost 3 года назад +8

      @@Ragnarok540 4d visualization can be done a lot better when using colors.
      I've explained that in this comment section before so I won't do it here again.
      But if you search, you will find how it's done.

    • @carrotfacts
      @carrotfacts 3 года назад +6

      @@Ragnarok540 For someone who watches math youtube videos for fun, it's quite difficult. Glad you get it so easily, though

    • @tirocska
      @tirocska 3 года назад +3

      @@carrotfacts Could you explain which part(s) you find difficult? Just curious.

    • @andrewosborne1447
      @andrewosborne1447 3 года назад

      I mean, all he did was say “here’s a solution to a recursion. It’s continuous on C”.

  • @chrisxd146
    @chrisxd146 2 года назад +6

    It's insane how often pi shows up in any level of math. Funnily enough it's the first example I given when helping students to better understand infinite series and what they're useful for (alongside Euler's identity).
    Very cool video that I wish I wouldn't have waited so long to watch.

  • @eekee6034
    @eekee6034 2 года назад +3

    That first graph made me the most excited I've been about math, *ever!* :D

  • @fozzzyyy
    @fozzzyyy 3 года назад +40

    90% of the budget for that amazed face effect at 6:47
    Edit: I stand corrected 7:28
    btw for plotting complex functions, I've been trying for a while to make a program the plots the path of f(x + ti) in 3D where t is just the time. This could be a 4D plot

  • @gordonwiley2006
    @gordonwiley2006 3 года назад +204

    The way Matt's goodbye face's hand was animated was wigging me out for some reason. Does not tarnish the good maths though.

    • @MCAndyT
      @MCAndyT 3 года назад +20

      Really kept my attention while he did the sponsored portion. Very clever, that one...

    • @fennecfoxfanatic
      @fennecfoxfanatic 3 года назад +12

      That animation kept me on my toes! More intense than the bouncing dvd logo

    • @gordonrichardson2972
      @gordonrichardson2972 3 года назад +5

      Gordon Wiley Tom Scott did a video on green-screen perspective errors being creepy.

    • @kuromurasakizero9515
      @kuromurasakizero9515 3 года назад +8

      it seemed like it was both timed to the beat of the music and slightly off at the same time. Methinks he learned a new editing trick and enjoyed it a lot :)

    • @partywumpus5267
      @partywumpus5267 3 года назад

      @@kuromurasakizero9515 definitely looks like he's having a fun time with it

  • @mistec34
    @mistec34 3 года назад +2

    I love your enthusiasm, my dude. Keep learning, growing and challenging yourself and others! :)

  • @lmitz
    @lmitz Год назад +2

    I like how at 1:35 it is perfectly synced between the text in the previous video and the current video

  • @Yazoocxi
    @Yazoocxi 3 года назад +92

    Matt! You are already in python. Take a look at the library "matplotlib" it can do zoomable/movable 3D plots directly from python.

    • @vibacourtney-battista6918
      @vibacourtney-battista6918 3 года назад +1

      What software could I code an interactable fractal zoom using python?

    • @RubenMoor
      @RubenMoor 3 года назад +3

      Seems crazy to me to rely on excel when you have matplotlib - or at least I wouldn't admit it 😬

    • @andrewosborne1447
      @andrewosborne1447 3 года назад +3

      Matplotlib, pandas, numpy.

    • @ThaiNguyen-bl1pi
      @ThaiNguyen-bl1pi 3 года назад +3

      Ruben Moor you underestimate the obsession of Matt with Excel

  • @TheSpacecraftX
    @TheSpacecraftX 3 года назад +11

    It hit me near the end how good of a job you've done of editing this. The virtual plot that you're actually pointing to points on like a weatherman. Also I suspect you just learned how to do the face thing and it's really cool.

  • @lovingfoe1444
    @lovingfoe1444 3 года назад +6

    This guy went insane. Really maths “y”. Imaginative. I love how he opens he mouth to show his excitement.

  • @ChuckHenebry
    @ChuckHenebry 2 года назад +1

    Love the various faces. Nice video editing!
    The goodbye face kept me watching all the way through the Jane St. promotional-a first for me. Nice audience hook, Matt!

  • @romajimamulo
    @romajimamulo 3 года назад +29

    What I would do is the way 3blue1brown did the display of the Zetta function: start with a grid in the complex plane, and animate distorting it

  • @Turcian
    @Turcian 3 года назад +131

    Matt: Uses Python for computing the values
    Also Matt: Uses Excel to plot the values computed using Python
    We need to talk about Matplotlib. Or should I call it Mattplotlib?

    • @silverzero9524
      @silverzero9524 3 года назад +26

      Mattdoesntplotlib

    • @MaxDiscere
      @MaxDiscere 3 года назад +4

      Matplotlib sucks, excel is far better if you want to be fast

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 3 года назад +3

      @@MaxDiscere
      Agreed Excel is great for a fast and dirty first look.
      But it's no good at all if you want to be able to zoom, change point of view, etc

    • @iabervon
      @iabervon 3 года назад +2

      Mattplotlib will give you graphs that are interesting and look good, but if you happen to look at them diagonally one of the ways, they don't quite add up. Also, some of your numbers appear in two places for some reason.

    • @pascalschetelat7198
      @pascalschetelat7198 3 года назад +1

      Wow, lots of people here need to learn to use matplotlib which is arguably both faster and and more powerful than excel. Plus it is interactive and give nice looking graphs

  • @surrealdynamics4077
    @surrealdynamics4077 3 года назад +4

    I love your videos! I don't really understand the complex maths involved, and I don't think I ever will get to. But maths really spark an interest and curiosity in me, I love to learn more and take a peek into this otherworldly stuff!

  • @jamesbra4410
    @jamesbra4410 3 года назад +3

    Very informative, lots of effort put in. Some of the best math content I've seen.

  • @KarstenJohansson
    @KarstenJohansson 3 года назад +24

    6:29 this is the shadow of a spiral (3D onto 2D plane). Then the next part of the video shows a spiral, which is still a shadow of the spiral, but seen from a fairly easily guessed angle in 3d space.

    • @timh.6872
      @timh.6872 3 года назад +9

      That's a good catch! It does look like a projection of a decaying helix.

    • @atomictraveller
      @atomictraveller 3 года назад +2

      i saw nonlinear damped mass spring (have a vid on using quadrature osc to appx sine and cosine)
      s0 = 1.f; s1 = 0.f; // init
      s0 -= w * s1; s1 += w * s0; // loop .. where w = angular frequency 2 * pi * hz / samplerate

  • @ImDoubleDelight
    @ImDoubleDelight 3 года назад +82

    "A third" incorrectly stated as 0.333, yet time stamped at 03:33 is some fine trolling... 🧐

    • @i_booba
      @i_booba 3 года назад +9

      That's some fine detective work also, dang.

  • @WilliametcCook
    @WilliametcCook Год назад +5

    I was surprised at how easy it is to graph in Desmos:
    \frac{\left(\phi^{t},0
    ight)-\frac{1}{\phi^{t}}\left(\cos\left(t\pi
    ight),\sin\left(t\pi
    ight)
    ight)}{\sqrt{5}}
    Set your preferred boundaries for _t_
    Or, if you want animation, restrict _t_ to [0,1] and replace every instance of _t_ with _at_ for some variable _a_

  • @plaustrarius
    @plaustrarius 3 года назад +2

    Was able to graph the 2D slice with real inputs, working on the complex input/complex output graphs
    excellent project thank you Matt!!

  • @DemoniteBL
    @DemoniteBL 3 года назад +5

    I love how excited Matt is about everything.

  • @gustavofb3
    @gustavofb3 3 года назад +31

    If the surface have not a name yet
    It could be named "the Parker's Blanket"

  • @tekkorb778
    @tekkorb778 3 года назад +24

    I never expected that the graph of the negative positions of the fibonacci seqeuence would give a fibonacci spiral, amazing!

  • @dianedong1062
    @dianedong1062 3 года назад +2

    Beautiful! I never thought about using anything other than positive real numbers in the Fibonnaci sequence until today.

  • @bentbliley
    @bentbliley 3 года назад +11

    In regards to where Fibonacci starts, I’d always been taught it starts 0 1.

    • @ComradeTiki
      @ComradeTiki 3 года назад +3

      Zero indexing... nice.

  • @jony7779
    @jony7779 3 года назад +20

    You give "domain coloring" a try next time you want to visualize functions of complex numbers.

  • @nymalous3428
    @nymalous3428 Год назад +1

    Coincidentally, I just taught my class graphing complex numbers on the complex plane yesterday... and today I get this recommendation.

  • @TheArunster
    @TheArunster 3 года назад +2

    This is so awesome. Love the energy and passion. ❤️

  • @parodysam
    @parodysam 3 года назад +6

    First time I’ve seen e, pi, and phi all together like that

  • @YuVW
    @YuVW 3 года назад +11

    I can't believe you did all of this teasing and then didn't show the plot across the line containing the zeroes

  • @DhaTennisKid
    @DhaTennisKid 3 года назад +2

    Loved the 3D representation of a 4D concept, super cool
    Would love to see a follow-up video with bigger graphs!!!

  • @KaiCrafted
    @KaiCrafted 3 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed the graphics/effects this video, along with the content 👍

  • @Czxvkq
    @Czxvkq 3 года назад +7

    That equation at the very end reminds me of Euler's Identity. You could call it Parker's Identity!

  • @jasonpatterson8091
    @jasonpatterson8091 3 года назад +34

    You said "deposit" in your presentation of that puzzle. That implied positive numbers only. I don't know how many other people considered negatives and discarded the idea as outside the rules as presented, but I did. I'm still bitter about the bonus points.

    • @theadamabrams
      @theadamabrams 3 года назад +4

      I could have written this exact comment word for word!
      "Deposit" means a strictly positive number. I even looked up the word at the time because, like others, I thought of the negative answer and then determined that it was not a valid solution (and I did notice Matt's use of the word "integers", but he also explicitly used the word "deposit").
      I'm okay with giving equal points for the answer involving negatives, but it seems insulting to give *additional* points for an *_incorrect_* answer.

    • @DukeBG
      @DukeBG 3 года назад +4

      Same. I was offended by Matt saying that the rest of the people didn't consider the negative numbers. I considered and actually emailed about them, but did not enter it in the answer box because I didn't want to lose points.

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony 3 года назад +1

      @@DukeBG In MPMP: if it goes in the answer box and it works, it is valid. Though, I also didn't try it because I thought positive only was implied.

    • @DukeBG
      @DukeBG 3 года назад

      @@Huntracony Yeah, now we know that and we'll act accordingly in the future. But I'm still going to be cross about "not considered" wording here.

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony 3 года назад +1

      @@DukeBG Rightfully so.

  • @scottytremaineplays9461
    @scottytremaineplays9461 2 года назад +2

    This should have been in my complex analysis module.
    Also, the limit of the integral of the Binet function - mind blown 🤯

  • @criskity
    @criskity 3 года назад +1

    That loop in the graph is mind-blowing!

  • @MaximusMuleti
    @MaximusMuleti 3 года назад +3

    This was one of the coolest Fibonacci maths I've ever seen!!!

  • @tomadams7553
    @tomadams7553 3 года назад +6

    That amazed face to 'Buttercup' 🤣

  • @ataraxianAscendant
    @ataraxianAscendant 2 года назад

    ok i really like the buttercup challenge thing you had going on, I've been listening to a lot of jack stauber recently and I thought it was really cool to see one of his songs appear in one of your videos!

  • @rashmi9733
    @rashmi9733 3 года назад

    This is one of the awesome channel in you tube and I love it and learn from it.
    Thank you so much sir.

  • @alyssaburgueno5963
    @alyssaburgueno5963 3 года назад +7

    You’ve likely already heard of it, but you could also look at the 5-adic interpolation of the Fibonacci numbers; this yields a 5-adic continuous function in fact! Really cool stuff. Unfortunately, I think you‘d run into the same difficulty (or more) getting a visualization of the result.

  • @nicolaom
    @nicolaom 3 года назад +196

    I’m wondering what are the properties of the loop that the two 1’s form... I don't know why, but it was the part that I found the coolest

    • @theot1692
      @theot1692 3 года назад +38

      I wonder what the area of the loop is

    • @richardpike8748
      @richardpike8748 3 года назад +21

      @@theot1692 I was about to say this lol. I also wonder the area of the loop. And if you wanted to go deeper I guess you could also do analysis of curvature, length, etc... never know what you might find.

    • @gajbooks
      @gajbooks 3 года назад +26

      The real question is does the loop shrink in the complex plane, and if so where does it reach zero size?

    • @richardpike8748
      @richardpike8748 3 года назад +7

      @@gajbooks volume of the loop? o_o

    • @hwliebenberg5487
      @hwliebenberg5487 3 года назад +2

      I dont think the line crosses the x axis at all, I believe that from the point of perspective where you looking from the X/Y axis vantage point it looks like it crosses the x-axis, but it doesn't, it loops around it, just like a inverse spiral if looking from the vantage point of Z/Y axis. (I dont know, it just looks like it)

  • @switch1e
    @switch1e Год назад +1

    This is so cool. Thank you for making this video

  • @belladoralastname6096
    @belladoralastname6096 3 года назад

    This is one of my favorite channels specifically because I think this is the only person I've ever seen excited as I get for math

  • @stephenamy9879
    @stephenamy9879 3 года назад +55

    I liked this so much that I clicked "like" n times, n being an odd number

  • @jeremy.N
    @jeremy.N 3 года назад +8

    Hey Matt, looks great. However, you should try taking the logarithm of the absolute value, when plotting, since the fibonacci series is an exponential series and thus diverges quite fast. That would also help showing the zeroes and the "waves" you can see in the function.

    • @joshcork2201
      @joshcork2201 3 года назад +2

      This works when the output is large, but for small values, log is a very large negative number. Furthermore log is undefined at 0.

  • @patrickmestabrook
    @patrickmestabrook 3 года назад

    LOVED this video my dude! Thank you!

  • @nbee4981
    @nbee4981 3 года назад +1

    I was taking a course regarding the Laplace Transform , lo, about 40+ years ago, and, as a part of it, the prof introduced the notion of "difference equations" (cf. "differential equations") and the difference equation analog of the LT called the "Z Transform". As he went into the idea, I realized that you could use the Z transform to redefine a Fibonacci sequence as a function of the two initial values (this was a variable Fib sequence, not just the uniform standard one) and the "n-th" value you wanted -- that is, rather than have to calculate all the intermediate numbers, you could get the n-th term by simply plugging in N, F-sub-0 and F-sub-1.
    And, in fact, this was the subject for the next day's class/lesson. I always love it when I see where the class is going ahead of time.
    Not sure if that can be turned into a segment, but you might enjoy looking over it either way.
    Transforms are pretty cool things. And the LT is actually pretty primitive, being one of the first tools invented to manipulate, analyze, and understand the concepts of differentials.

  • @tux1468
    @tux1468 3 года назад +7

    Last thing I expected from this video was anything by Jack Stauber 6:55

  • @djpeterson7479
    @djpeterson7479 3 года назад +8

    "Oh look! I made it spin!"
    Poker face, Matt. Just pretend you meant to do that.

  • @kyrilcouda
    @kyrilcouda 3 года назад +1

    6:45 Liked and subscribed just for that meme. Good job, Matt :D

  • @MicheleeiRettili
    @MicheleeiRettili 3 года назад +1

    I loved this video!! THANK YOU!

  • @aliasalias2131
    @aliasalias2131 2 года назад +4

    Nice new point of view, thank you :).
    Also, by the way, in the log abs plot, you can see the two binet terms as two planes, which I find constructive.
    Remark: Personally I like to plot the abs and use colors for the output phase, to keep it 3d. It distracts a little bit from the phase, but often you don't really need it, and e.g. with the log abs you can see the zeros and poles quite well.

    • @MajikkanBeingsUnite
      @MajikkanBeingsUnite 2 года назад

      That sounds awesome! 😸 It will both show the angle and make it 🌈rainbow, which automatically boosts the awesomeness of a mathematical plot by about omega!
      Sadly, no version of Geogebra I've ever tried can make multicoloured outputs 😿 so it's gonna have to be a new file, not an updated version of this particular interactive.

  • @SaberTooth2251
    @SaberTooth2251 3 года назад +9

    It seems to me the best way to visualize 4 dimensions would be to have an intractable rotatable 3D structure as you illustrated from Ben, but combined with the idea that you have some slider bar that acts as a perpendicular axis. You can treat that as a temporal axis and watch the time evolution of a 3 dimensional space from any of an infinite number of 2 dimensional views

    • @VcSaJen
      @VcSaJen 2 года назад

      What if you make 4th axis a color? I think it's possible, but depending on graph it could be messy/opaque.

  • @matthewsaulsbury3011
    @matthewsaulsbury3011 3 года назад

    Wow! That's amazing and cool! Those are neat looking graphs! 👍🏼😀

  • @chrisvanvranken457
    @chrisvanvranken457 3 года назад +1

    Amazing! Good work!!