Euler's other constant

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @theimmux3034
    @theimmux3034 Год назад +233

    just rename mathematics to findings of Euler

  • @tomkerruish2982
    @tomkerruish2982 Год назад +33

    Ah yes, the Oily Macaroni Constant.

  • @kuberannaganathan5244
    @kuberannaganathan5244 Год назад +7

    Brilliant. Thanks!

  • @guilhermemodelbaptista9365
    @guilhermemodelbaptista9365 Год назад +23

    The video ends and my mind auto completed with "and that's a good place to stop".

  • @giovanni1946
    @giovanni1946 Год назад +40

    10:43 Replacing e^-x like that would require the dominated convergence theorem, it's not trivial

  • @assassin01620
    @assassin01620 Год назад +45

    This is something that still confuses me. At 11:00, why can we arbitrarily decide that the upper limit of the integral increases at the same rate (1-x/n)^n converges to e^-x? Why dont we have to introduce a new variable and limit?

    • @giovanni1946
      @giovanni1946 Год назад +10

      It is true, but it requires the dominated convergence theorem, it's not trivial

    • @Raphael-wg7zi
      @Raphael-wg7zi Год назад +2

      @@giovanni1946 il faut appliquer le théorème de convergence dominée à la fonction fn(x)=0 si x>n et fn(x)=(1-x/n)^n si x

    • @giovanni1946
      @giovanni1946 Год назад

      @@Raphael-wg7zi Exact

    • @peterhall6656
      @peterhall6656 Год назад +5

      There are references below to the DCT being "required" to understand what is going on. In fact this is a legitimate question that arose in classical analysis long before Lebesgue. In his book " A Course of Pure Mathematics" Hardy deals with relative rates of convergence (see problem 16 pages 167-8) which are at the heart of Tauberian theory. Littlewood's 3 principles ( Every (measurable) set is nearly a finite sum of intervals; every function (of class Lp) is nearly continuous; every convergent sequence of functions is nearly uniformly convergent) ensure that most of the time you can get away with the "obvious" (assuming of course that you have checked that the hypotheses are satisfied).

    • @daniellosh1015
      @daniellosh1015 Год назад

      f(x)=(1+x/n)^n, n tends to infinity is a formal definition of e^x, proven by taking derivative.

  • @slowfreq
    @slowfreq Год назад +24

    You make me feel like I'm back in college again, except you only teach fun stuff.

  • @sebastiandierks7919
    @sebastiandierks7919 Год назад +4

    23:05 The constant is defined without the 1/(n+1) bit. Doesn't change the result though, if you multiply it out, the limit of the remaining n / (n+1)^2 summand is 0.

  • @krisbrandenberger544
    @krisbrandenberger544 Год назад +3

    @ 21:39 The sign of the second term in the numerator should be a minus, not a plus.

  • @rublade1
    @rublade1 Год назад +5

    10:46 the substitution is not correct the n form the first limit is not the same as the n of the definition for e^(-x)

  • @jonathanlerner2797
    @jonathanlerner2797 Год назад +11

    Small error at 11:51 , x->n from below. Thanks for the great content!

  • @saroshadenwalla398
    @saroshadenwalla398 Год назад +11

    a_n is a decreasing sequence, you can show this by using the same method used to show b_n is increasing but using a_n and replacing the integral of 1/x with the integral of 1/(n+1).

  • @scp3178
    @scp3178 Год назад +6

    Cool Video, thank you, Michael. If you mention the Euler-Masceroni constant, you also have to mention the di-gamma function (the log-derivation of the gamma function)

  • @Maths_3.1415
    @Maths_3.1415 Год назад +11

    Miss you good place to Stop 😥

  • @moshadj
    @moshadj Год назад +5

    The oily macaroni constant

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 Год назад +21

    😢

    • @Maths_3.1415
      @Maths_3.1415 Год назад +5

      There's no good place to Stop 😢

  • @someperson188
    @someperson188 Год назад

    @ 6:24 Prof. Penn claims that a_n = 1 + 1/2 + .... + 1/n - ln(n) is an increasing sequence. We'll show that a_n is a strictly decreasing sequence.
    Let f(x) =: 1/(x+1) - ln((x+1)/x), for x > 0. Then, f'(x) = 1/(x(x+1)^2) > 0. So, f is
    strictly increasing. Since Lim(x -> infinity)f(x) = 0, it follows that f(x) < 0.
    Now, a_(n+1) - a_n = 1/(n+1) - ln((n+1)/n) = f(n) < 0. This also shows that
    a_n

  • @christianaustin782
    @christianaustin782 Год назад +2

    6:21 it's definitely not an increasing sequence, it's actually decreasing. Can anyone either explain why we know its bounded below by 0 (or always positive) or why it converges anyway?

    • @aonodensetsu
      @aonodensetsu Год назад

      it's increasing as you add the terms, not each term separately

  • @eitancahlon
    @eitancahlon Год назад +2

    I really like that you upload almost every single day, your videos are fun to watch and I just wait for them.

  • @lukasschmitz9030
    @lukasschmitz9030 Год назад +9

    Since the mathematician from which the "Mascheroni" in "Euler-Mascheroni constant" comes, was Italian, it would correctly be pronounced "Maskeroni" and not "Masheroni".

  • @psycdalex
    @psycdalex Год назад +9

    Based. Underrated constant

  • @iWilburnYou
    @iWilburnYou Год назад +3

    I guess there's no good place to stop with this one 😮‍💨

  • @hrobot6362
    @hrobot6362 Год назад +4

    Is there a good place to stop?

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Год назад +6

    don't see this one very often....
    some thoughts:
    1. are there other interesting constants coming from the difference between a sum an an integral?
    2. What are the cases of γ appearing in unexpected places (like π often does)? even in physics?
    3. using the methods in the video, can we approximate γ?

    • @giacomocervelli1945
      @giacomocervelli1945 Год назад +2

      3) plug in n=99

    • @sleepycritical6950
      @sleepycritical6950 Год назад

      1. Other constants include the Mertens constant, closely related to the Euler Mascheroni constant.
      2. Both of these numbers often appear in number theory, specifically when dealing with prime numbers.
      3. There are like many other ways of approximating gamma by manipulating the original series or limit but yes.

    • @peppescala4113
      @peppescala4113 8 месяцев назад +1

      It appears everytime in Quantum Field Theory. When you have to compute Feynman Diagrams with 1 or more loops you need to approximate the Gamma function. Since the derivative of Gamma(z) at z=1 is -γ you see it often

  • @Bierchen1337
    @Bierchen1337 Год назад

    That constant poped up in a proof in my dissertation regarding some prime densities. It came out of nowhere.

  • @varmijo
    @varmijo Год назад

    11:52 it is as x approaches n, not 1

  • @wesleydeng71
    @wesleydeng71 Год назад +5

    Fun fact: we don't even know whether gamma is rational or not.

  • @rafaelgcpp
    @rafaelgcpp Год назад +2

    No place to stop!

  • @r2k314
    @r2k314 Год назад +1

    Ok, thank you very much for the proof of the integral form. But any ideas what motivated the idea that it could be repesented that way?

  • @someperson188
    @someperson188 Год назад +1

    The last limit can be calculated with only two uses of L'Hospital. Let w = n+1 0.
    By L'Hospital,
    (A) Lim(t -> 1){[(1 - t^w)^2]/(t - 1)} = Lim(t -> 1) { [(2wt^(2w - 1) - 2wt^(w - 1)] / 1}=0.
    Using L'Hospital and (A),
    Lim(t -> 1^-) {(1 - t^w)ln( 1 - t)} = Lim(t -> 1^-) {ln(1 - t)/(1 - t^w)^(-1)} =
    Lim(t -> 1^-) { [1/(t-1)]/[(wt^(w-1)(1 - t^w)^(-2)]} =
    Lim(t -> 1^-){1/[wt^(w-1)]}X Lim(Lim(t -> 1^-){[(1 - t^w)^2]/(t - 1)} = (w)(0) = 0.
    Additionally, if w = 0, then Lim(t -> 1^-) {(1 - t^w)ln( 1 - t)} = Lim(t -> 1^-) {0} = 0 .

  • @pyaniy_abba577
    @pyaniy_abba577 Год назад

    Wow, incredible. Just today worked on the video's integral and derivatives of gamma of bigger order and there comes yours video on the subject 😼

  • @kkanden
    @kkanden Год назад +3

    i don't know which is the good place to stop for today :(

  • @dkravitz78
    @dkravitz78 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the video as always! Did anyone else hear a little interference with the microphone today?

  • @douglasstrother6584
    @douglasstrother6584 Год назад +2

    ∞ - ∞ ~ ½, obviously. ;)
    It's interesting how often this constant appears in Physics.

  • @skushneryuk
    @skushneryuk Год назад

    It doesn't seem like a correct move at 10:45 to replace e^-x in the integral this way. There actually should be two limits after this transform and two different numbers accounted for integral and for e^-x as a limit

    • @karl131058
      @karl131058 Год назад

      Exactly my thought when watching this for the first time: seen from a standpoint of formal logic, it seems he's renaming a bound variable (the one in the limit for e^-x, which SHOULD be different from n) to a name that's (locally) free inside the integral - which COULD be an invalid rename!

    • @sebastiandierks7919
      @sebastiandierks7919 Год назад +1

      Another viewer with more mathematical knowledge in measure theory than me commented that it is correct, but it requires the dominated convergence theorem and is thus non-trivial. If you wanna look for that comment. I looked up the theorem on wikipedia and although the theorem seems logical enough, I'm not sure how it explains that taking the limit this way is correct.

  • @pizzamidhead2183
    @pizzamidhead2183 Год назад +25

    Hi! love your videos. btw "Mascheroni" is pronounced with a "K" sound, not "C", like "Mask". Hope this helps!

    • @friedrichhayek4862
      @friedrichhayek4862 Год назад

      I pronunce it with a Spanish "sh" also know as German "Sch"

    • @pizzamidhead2183
      @pizzamidhead2183 Год назад +2

      @@friedrichhayek4862 it's a common mistake, but that's italian

    • @azzteke
      @azzteke Год назад

      @@friedrichhayek4862 Complete nonsense! It´s neither German nor Spanish, but Italian!

    • @gegebenein.gaussprozess7539
      @gegebenein.gaussprozess7539 Год назад +2

      @@friedrichhayek4862 Your pronunciation is wrong. It is a Italian name. Pizzamid Head is right with his commentary.

    • @scp3178
      @scp3178 Год назад +2

      Just separate the "s" from "ch": Mas-cheroni ("Mas-keroni")
      (English native speakers have their own way of pronunciation of foreign words / names: mostly false *lol*)

  • @ruffifuffler8711
    @ruffifuffler8711 Год назад

    Pivot between a sequence, and a function.

  • @sjswitzer1
    @sjswitzer1 Год назад +1

    Is this the debut of eraser sleeves? Well, I suppose a high-level climber has a lot of experience getting chalk out of his clothing!

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango Год назад

    3:05 integral from 1 to 2 plus integral from 2 to 3 plus ... plus integral from n-1 to n, for a total of n-1 integrals?

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 Год назад

      Correct, think about it. If n=2, you'd only have 1 integral, from 1-2. If n=3, you'd only have 2: 1-2 and 2-3. For arbitrary n, n-1 integrals

  • @sh335-s7x
    @sh335-s7x Год назад +1

    Did I miss "That's a good place to stop"?

  • @jkid1134
    @jkid1134 Год назад +2

    HW:
    1. ln(n) = integral from x=1 to n of 1/x
    = sum from k=1 to n-1 of integral from x=k to k+1 of 1/x
    < sum from k=1 to n-1 of 1/(k+1) because 1/x is decreasing
    = 1/2 + 1/3 + ... +1/n
    < 1 + 1/2 +... + 1/n
    2. Given a_n converges:
    lim n->infinity b_n
    = lim n->infinity a_n - 1/n
    = lim n->infinity a_n - lim n->infinity 1/n by a_n's convergence
    = lim n->infinity a_n which is given to converge
    Given b_n converges
    lim n->infinity a_n
    = lim n->infinity b_n + 1/n
    = lim n->infinity b_n + lim n->infinity of 1/n by b_n's convergence
    = lim n->infinity b_n which is given to converge

    • @jkid1134
      @jkid1134 Год назад

      Oh I think I did at least some extra work

    • @khoozu7802
      @khoozu7802 Год назад

      I think u mean 1/k not 1/(k+1), pls be careful about the +- sign of the decreasing function

  • @CM63_France
    @CM63_France Год назад +5

    And that's a good place to stop.

  • @Anonymous-zp4hb
    @Anonymous-zp4hb Год назад

    Here's how I approached it.
    Start with the sequence defined by
    a_n = 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/n - ln(n)
    Then let f(n) = a_(n+1) - a_n
    = 1/(n+1) - ln((n+1)/n)
    f(n) ...
    ...starts out negative (n=1):
    e < 4 implies ln(2) > 1/2 implies f(1) < 0
    ... has positive gradient (n>0):
    f'(n) = 1 / n(n+1)(n+1)
    ...approaches zero in the limit as n increases:
    1/(n+1) can approach ln((n+1)/n)
    only if ( (n+1)/n )^(n+1) approaches e
    which it does, by definition lol
    That tells us that f(n) < 0 for n>=1
    and the fact that 1-ln(1) = 1
    tells us that a_n = 1
    and so gamma too must not exceed 1.

  • @charleyhoward4594
    @charleyhoward4594 Год назад

    Euler was a religious person throughout his life.[20] Much of what is known of Euler's religious beliefs can be deduced from his Letters to a German Princess and an earlier work, Rettung der Göttlichen Offenbahrung gegen die Einwürfe der Freygeister (Defense of the Divine Revelation against the Objections of the Freethinkers). These works show that Euler was a devout Christian who believed the Bible to be inspired; the Rettung was primarily an argument for the divine inspiration of scripture.

  • @FrankHarwald
    @FrankHarwald Год назад

    Ah yes, the Euler-Macaroni constant, my favorite!

  • @maxim7718
    @maxim7718 Год назад +1

    Euler's Macaroni

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 Год назад +1

    A nice "mathematical details" follow-up to Numberphile's video. 🙂

  • @alre9766
    @alre9766 5 месяцев назад

    Some mathematical constants :
    Ω = 0.5671432904… (Omega constant)
    γ ≈ 0.5772156649… (Euler-Mascheroni constant)
    δ ≈ 0.5963473623… (Euler-Gompertz constant)
    G ≈ 0.9159655942… (Catalan's constant)
    ζ(3) ≈ 1.2020569032… (Apéry's constant)
    ρ ≈ 1.3247179572… (Plastic ratio)
    √2 ≈ 1.4142135624… (Pythagoras' constant)
    μ ≈ 1.4513692349… (Ramanujan-Soldner constant)
    φ ≈ 1.6180339887… (Golden ratio)
    √3 ≈ 1.7320508075… (Theodorus' constant)
    P₂ ≈ 2.29558 71494… (Universal parabolic constant)
    e ≈ 2.71828 18284… (Euler's number)
    π ≈ 3.14159 26536… (Archimedes' constant)
    δ ≈ 4.6692016091… α ≈ 2.5029078751… (Feigenbaum constants)

  • @ArthurvanH0udt
    @ArthurvanH0udt Год назад

    OK, where to get that t-shirt/hoody? sorry, couldn't find it on the internetz. ... oh whait: found it! (under Merch!)

  • @BikeArea
    @BikeArea Год назад

    12:25 is where he goes full speed ahead until the end. 😮

    • @lesnyk255
      @lesnyk255 Год назад +1

      which is about the point I fell off the oxcart, and from the edge of the road watched it recede into the distance

  • @johnpaterson6112
    @johnpaterson6112 10 месяцев назад

    Sixty years ago l was taught that the exponential function was defined as the limit of (1+x/n)^n as n approaches infinity. Now MP says it is a result (at about 11.40). Funny old world!

  • @maths00037
    @maths00037 9 месяцев назад

    can we use L'Hopital's rule for 0/(1/0) i.e 0/infinity ?

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango Год назад +1

    There's a nice geometric argument that the E-M constant has a value greater than 1/2.

  • @gp-ht7ug
    @gp-ht7ug Год назад +2

    Which is the use of this constant?

    • @frfr1022
      @frfr1022 Год назад +6

      Just like pi, e, zeta(3) and other constants, it often appears as a part of answers for weird/non-elementary integrals, sums and other problems.

    • @sarithasaritha.t.r147
      @sarithasaritha.t.r147 Год назад

      The random wikipedia equations which mathematicians cook up for no reason

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty Год назад +4

      I hope other people will chime in with uses!
      I like Mathologer's video on the harmonic series, which also deals with the Euler-Mascheroni constant. Essentially, if you want to compute the nth partial sum of the harmonic series, this is quite tricky to do since there is no known nice formula for the nth partial sum. However, you can approximate it using the natural log function (which we can compute to arbitrary precision!). The error between this natural log approximation and the partial sums gets closer and closer to the Euler-Mascheroni constant. So if you want to approximate 1+1/2+1/3+...+1/n for some large positive integer n, you can compute ln(n+1)+γ, and this will be a very good approximation.
      But this is just one application, and it's not too hard to believe based on the limit Michael proved in this video. I would also love to hear what other people say!

    • @carultch
      @carultch Год назад

      One application of this constant, is the Laplace transform of natural log. A method that is commonly used for converting Calculus into Algebra, as a strategy for solving differential equations.
      I've tried to find an example problem where it would be practical to solve, that starts with natural log, and uses its Laplace transform to solve, but I can't seem to come up with one. If anyone can suggest one that works, please let me know.

  • @vasseul4376
    @vasseul4376 Год назад

    First limite explanation could be summed up by the sentence: substracting an infinite series by its integral (turns out to be inferior or equal to one!!!)

  • @chrisglosser7318
    @chrisglosser7318 Год назад

    Yes, I know of the Euler gamma and his big brother \Gamma(\epsilon)

  • @jardozouille1677
    @jardozouille1677 Год назад

    What ? There were no good place to stop today ?! 😮

  • @shanathered5910
    @shanathered5910 Год назад

    idea for a future video, fractional harmonic numbers.

  • @mrminer071166
    @mrminer071166 Год назад

    Hey, it's the OILY MACARONI constant! (Sorry, schoolboy humor.)

  • @eaglesquishy
    @eaglesquishy Год назад

    How was gamma proven to be strictly between 0 and 1?

    • @warmpianist
      @warmpianist Год назад +2

      The sum 1/n is more than the integral 1/x dx from 1 to n+1 (draw a box of height 1,1/2,...,1/n on graph y=1/x), and integral is ln(n+1) which is more than ln(n), for all n. Therefore the constant is strictly more than 0.
      The proof that it's less than 1 is in video 5:06 (it's also strict inequality)

    • @eaglesquishy
      @eaglesquishy Год назад

      @@warmpianist What you just said are arguments to show that a_n is strictly between 0 and 1. The limit then could still be equal to 0 or 1.

    • @warmpianist
      @warmpianist Год назад +1

      @@eaglesquishy a_n is more than 0 for all n, and it is strictly increasing (also proven), therefore the limit is more than 0.
      And from the video the limit (not a_n) is proven to be less than 1 in the video

    • @eaglesquishy
      @eaglesquishy Год назад

      ​@@warmpianist a_n is actually decreasing (not proven or disproven in the video).
      Also, if you look closely, the limit was shown to be less than or equal to 1.

  • @bb5a
    @bb5a Год назад

    Michael's hair length suggests this one was recorded out of order :)

  • @IlTrojo
    @IlTrojo Год назад

    10:18 everybody: the FACT.

  • @Kyle-wf4id
    @Kyle-wf4id 7 месяцев назад

    Wonderful.

  • @whonyx6680
    @whonyx6680 Год назад

    euler-macaroni best constant. Actually, in Calculus 1, I had to prove that the limit existed during an exam.

  • @charleyhoward4594
    @charleyhoward4594 Год назад

    this math is getting more esoteric all the time ...

  • @TheMemesofDestruction
    @TheMemesofDestruction Год назад +3

    Anyone else want to say it as the, “Euler Macaroni constant?”

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Год назад +1

      You mean, "oily macaroni". ;)

    • @darkmask4767
      @darkmask4767 Год назад +1

      Props to Papa Flammy for coining the alias "oily macaroni constant"

  • @brandonnadel4298
    @brandonnadel4298 Год назад

    I never knew how to pronounce it before

    • @azzteke
      @azzteke Год назад

      A sign of missing education.,

    • @davidgould9431
      @davidgould9431 Год назад +3

      Michael gets it slightly wrong: the C is hard, so it starts like 'mask', not 'mash'.

    • @brandonnadel4298
      @brandonnadel4298 Год назад +1

      @@davidgould9431 thx

  • @proninkoystia3829
    @proninkoystia3829 Год назад +1

    Г'(1)=-γ

  • @Pastroni89
    @Pastroni89 Год назад

    According to Wikipedia it can also be defined by an integral involving the floor function. Segway to your next video? 😜

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 Год назад

      Segue (Italian for 'follows') - a Segway is an electric vehicle! 😉

  • @proninkoystia3829
    @proninkoystia3829 Год назад

    19:02, t^(n+1)+1 :/

  • @CppExpedition
    @CppExpedition Год назад

    but how that integral is important? i was expecting an application :P

    • @carultch
      @carultch Год назад

      One application of this constant, is the Laplace transform of natural log. A method that is commonly used for converting Calculus into Algebra, as a strategy for solving differential equations.

    • @CppExpedition
      @CppExpedition Год назад

      @@carultch quite interesting, Math is about building tools to simplify analysis. Its always nice to know where do these tools are applied. Not just about learning about random symbolic facts. So thx for the application!

    • @carultch
      @carultch Год назад

      @@CppExpedition Indeed. Laplace Transforms are an awesome tool.
      I've tried to come up with an example where you could use the Laplace transform of natural log to solve a DiffEQ, but I haven't had any success thus far. Every example I try, seems to stump Wolfram Alpha.
      It's much easier to use the method of Laplace transforms when the DiffEq uses trig, exponentials, algebraic functions, and impulse/step/ramp functions, since they all have algebraic Laplace transforms that are practical to untangle.

    • @CppExpedition
      @CppExpedition Год назад

      @@carultch don't worry, either way i would calculate any fourier transform through numeric FFT.

  • @romanbobyor
    @romanbobyor Год назад

    sketchy :))))

  • @abdonecbishop
    @abdonecbishop Год назад

    21:50 .. LEFT TOP................ gamma >0.......a countable number (rational orbit) calculated in a rational number 'Q' based formulae
    .............LEFT BOTTOM.........-gamma

    • @Pablo360able
      @Pablo360able Год назад

      no, both are true

    • @abdonecbishop
      @abdonecbishop Год назад

      @@Pablo360able ...kinda like asking equivalent geometric question about translating parallel lines (or the 2 lines endpoint extensions to infinity ...does a pair of parallel lines remain parallel(=) ...or.....notParallel(~=)....@ infinity

    • @Pablo360able
      @Pablo360able Год назад

      @@abdonecbishop it's like exactly none of that. what you are saying is mathematical word salad.

    • @abdonecbishop
      @abdonecbishop Год назад

      @@Pablo360able you sound really confident...to bad you are wrong
      .. ruclips.net/video/DOnlcsihEcM/видео.html

    • @Pablo360able
      @Pablo360able Год назад

      @@abdonecbishop gonna need to timestamp the relevant part because I don't see what singularities of pairs has to do with you thinking that an expression involving rational numbers can't have an irrational value

  • @petterituovinem8412
    @petterituovinem8412 Год назад

    Euler-Mascarpone constant

  • @estebanembroglio6371
    @estebanembroglio6371 Год назад

    256th like

  • @n0mad385
    @n0mad385 Год назад

    I'm curious of your sweatshirt! Is that 'identity' true?

    • @Pablo360able
      @Pablo360able Год назад +1

      It is! I think he's made a video about it before. You can also verify it by seeing how each side of the equation arises as the sum of the entries in a multiplication table.