I wrote an essay on this (20+ years ago) called Hermetic Music for the 21st Century Musician...I'll have to post links here when I get a chance. I created a whole system for "Pentacles of Aural Symetry" and "Septacles of Aural Symetry" with different species... There is a lot more to this...for instance...the different species I defined wound have different complimentary characteristics to each other. So you can create different textures by mixing the penticles etc...
The applications of using the flower of life and/or the Fibonacci sequence is infinite. Why are there no mixers that have this capability (to create music out of shapes)??? …. and if you can find one, let us all know where to buy it.
That sounds epic, checking it out now, thanks mate! I'm a violinist and this is super interesting, I'm also reeally intrigued by the color frequencies that notes create...
Find the sum of all angles of each shape and each sacred geometric expression and then use those as vibrational frequencies to find the "frequency" or "sound" of a shape
Been trying to figure out how to do this for years. Dying to take the geometric artwork from megalithic structures from around the world and convert the shape into frequency. The answers are here, we have to find them on our own this time around... peace, love, and light ❤
@@theawesomposum so glad and joyful to hear others are opening their minds in such a way as calculated as this, thank you for responding and reminding me of the mindset i had a year prior to this day
The CDEF#G#A# scale is a whole tone scale, best examples in DeBussy's work, jazz music ... Star Trek teleport sound FX features a whole tone scale. Sacred doodling ...
@@rui4659, Perhaps it would fit in a G augmented 7, which I learnt as G+7 (different from Gmaj7 !) . So the tones g - b - d'# - f'. Italiano: sol - si - re¹ diesis - fa¹. Deutsch: g - h - dis - f.
do you know where I can learn more about the origins of music theory in terms of sacred teachings and geometry? I'm looking for a foundation, thank you
I liked your video, this is a topic i find fascinating! Another fun fact that i have noticed is that if you follow one side of the flower pedal and cross over onto the other side in the middle as you go across, it makes a Sine wave, which is the fundamental note in a chord, and if you implement the other sine waves, then you start adding harmonics and making chords, very cool stuff, thanks for sharing!
check giussepe verdi tuning in XIX century A4=432 hz C0=16 hz C1=32 C2=64 C3=128 C4=256 hz C5=512 and so on.... all exact multiple of 8 (that is why we call them octaves) :)
Whole Tone is the layout of Double-Second Steelpan drum Circle of Fifths is the layout of the Tenor Steelpan drum Tritones complete the Sacred Geometry mapping on the Circle of Fifths… so that instead of half there is an equal and opposite WHOLE. @PlayitonPan
The edges of two circles connect in the center of a third circle in between the two, and the edges of the third circle are the centers of the first two circles drawn side by side (almost like a figure 8 aideways. ♾ or perhaps something that looks like this 00 or ⭕⭕ with the two circles side bynside). The centers go to the edge, and the edges go to the center in sacred geometry when adding to it. Just like with music, when you add a sharp or flat to a scale, it contains half the scale of the scale with one less flat and half the scale of the scale that has one more sharp. (Notes for scale with one flat) F G A Bb - CDEF You take the second half of the scale above for the scale without any flats or sharps which is C major. CdEF. Then you take the first half of G major scale (which is the scale with an added sharp or one sharp) to use aa the last half of the C majpr scale. (Last half of scale with one flat= CDEF CdEF. - GABC GABC = first half of scale with one sharp (which is GABC - D E F# G). So the center notes of C major scale F and G become the ends or beginning points or notes of next scale going both ways ( to add a sharp or a flat for F scale and G scale). Does that make sense. This correlates with the sacred geometry where the centers of a circle becomes the edges of 2 circles going out both ways fron each side of the first circle.
I wonder if the circle of fifths theory could be used to determine how DNA combinations could affect a person's health. Or whether the magnification of each person's fingerprints could be used to determine a specific chord progression for each person so that everybody has their own individual song.
I'm glad you mentioned the potential of other tunings. I was gonna say, the 12 note western equal tempered ("tampered" 😛) scale is actually an unnatural bastardization of the natural harmonic series. So, I'd say this is just making awesome patterns with 12 equidistant points around a circle.
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Really wonderful video. I've played various instruments and composed for years but only recently began learning about sacred geometry and music. I can see how some people might be having a hard time understanding what you're talking about, but with a solid background in music and the flower of life I get what you're talking about and I am really thankful for the extra peek in your notebook because that gives me some great ideas for my own experimentation. So, thanks so very much for sharing your ideas! (Also, like Roby King I would be very interested in seeing a pdf of your notebook.) Really great work! =D
I'd love to share with you some of my discoveries, perhaps I will make a better video explaining some of my better ideas and findings ;) Thanks for the interest!
Dude this is really really awesome great explanation easy to follow I love it this is exactly how I compose music and how I bounce around the music notes. I can literally just see a sacred geometry figure in my head and then use that as my progression in scale and don’t have to count or remember what timing I am using because as long as I can see the shape in my head I always know exactly to break and change things up. I am extremely simply use this method for gigs played out. Awesome job!
As a musician myself currently studying jazz/ contemporary theory, this has opened my eyes to a whole new world. Would love to have a beer with you and look through that notebook...
kvsupriseThank you. My words. It seems funny, but jazz musicians seem to be more open for unorthodox approaches to music then people with classical training. Maybe that's because people studying classical music just have one goal: To conserve what's already achieved throughout the history of classical music, while jazz musicians are more likely to be creative and live the joy of madness. I think if the old classical geniusses could observe what is going on in the world of classical music today, it would make them feel flattered on one hand but sad on the other hand: There are only a few composeres left compared with the golden days. Keep playing jazz and try out unorthodox ways and enjoy yourself doing so
I have been deeply interested in the concept of viewing our world in higher dimensions, so I tried to bring the concept of shapes in music. Then I tried to bring the concept of perceiving different shapes in "different dimensions" towards music. Then it brought me towards this concept. A buddy of mine and I discussed this for weeks and then I finally remembered sacred geometry and the fact that we have the internet, then I found this video, haha. All I can say is thank you. This basic explanation has become a tool that I'm going to use in so many ways that I never imagined being able to grasp. Excellent creativity.
Erik Gampick Yes people find the flower of life pattern or sacred geometry at the time in their lives when they need it or are ready for it ;) Sacred geometry is a connection with our spirits and our chakras which are flower shaped lotuses in sacred geometric form with which we travel from body to body or reincarnation, so yes when one learns more of the secret of the flower of life, one becomes connected with a deeper purpose and meaning behind life, existence, and many other connections to our true selves, much love to you my friend, Om mani padmi Hum, which means the jewel in the heart of the lotus :)
What is a dimension? A cube is three dimensional. A square is viewing the cube in two dimensional space from top or sides. What is the cubes view on 4-d space? This is what I do not understand.
Erik Gampick One can see the other dimensions my friend, it can be done as I have seen the etheric energy before in the form of the flower of life pattern and came out of m body into another dimension and I saw the sacred geometric form that makes up the chakras or flower of life, and that is the secret behind the other dimensions is that it is attained through the chakras and coming out of the crown chakra and then you see the other dimension we are all talking about, the ancients speak of the flower of life being the secret to the other dimensions and yes they are very real and can seen with the eyes as well my friend as I can attest to it ;) Om mani padmi hum... which means the jewel in the heart of the lotus flower and now you know what they mean ;)
I enjoyed your drawings and demonstrations! You've put some time into that. Well done. Great stuff! Its exactly what i've been pondering about (using geometry and the golden ratio rule to explore differerent chord progressions). What i'll try (and maybe you've already tried) is to draw more than one circle, i.e. a second circle created from a point of the first. Both circles could begin at different intervals of a chosen scale, i.e. one circle scale beginning with C as you demonstrated, and the other beginning at the 1st inversion (E) or the second inversion (G), Then draw your geometric shapes from one circle to the other for a 2 dimensional perspective ( or 3 circles for a 3 dimensional perspective) What cha reckon?
Mr. Smirk, I have something amazing to share. I have developed a keyboard that applies color-shape notes (as i see them) to a honeycomb pattern. The amazing thing i began to realize there is a parallel not only to the chromatic notes & chromatic color, but the the emotions attached to specific keys. Would love to hear any first-impressions of my Musicolor Matirx keyboard and my Theory of Pitch Psychology. You should be able to click directly on the rainbow-rabbit icon to find me. Thanks for presenting this helpful video.
This video got me into a pretty big music theory monologue, long post ahead: This is definitely a cool experiment because of of how tonality is linear as much as it is circular, which allows geometry and math to intersect with music theory in interesting ways as you've demonstrated via this exploration of polygons in relation to the 12 half-step scale represented as a circle. You also made note that this representation is similar to, but also different from, the circle of fifths. While it still adheres to the chromatic 12 semitone scale, the note increment and double circle band design of the circle of fifths was structured under the observation that all tones are actually accompanied by an infinite collection of fainter, higher, frequencies centered around the root frequency. These are just other frequencies that are basically "produced" by the presence of a fundamental/frequency alone (many can be isolated/heard, look up the harmonic/overtone series demonstration by Leonard Bernstein) and are what define the very science of what musically sounds "right" and "wrong" to the human ear. This is because all sounds in nature produce harmonic frequencies (sometimes called overtones); the only way to produce a tone without harmonic frequencies occurring is via sine waves (more math)! When a sound has seemingly no structure between the root frequency and the harmonic frequencies around it, it sounds like noise to our ears. If the relationship (tonal distance) between the root frequency and its harmonic frequencies are in the right ratios (known as stable/natural relationships) then they sound like "actual musical tones." The easiest way to understand why harmonic frequencies are always present and what makes them "natural" is to look at how sound is produced on a material level with anything vibration-related such as strings on a guitar. The properties of how a string vibrates after being plucked is actually kind of complex: When you pluck an open string, let's say the low E string, the string only "ripples" down the its /entire/ length once before the wave energy doubles back from both ends of the string and is now rippling/vibrating in two equal halves (an octave apart/of the root) of the string length, then rippling into a ratio of equal thirds of the string length (this is the first "different" overtone present, known as the dominant/5th note in a major scale), then into a ratio of fourths of the string length (another octave of the root), then into fifths of the string length (known as the 3rd in major scales), then into sixths and etc.- all of which are producing sound along with the root tone but just fainter and much higher as they are using geometrically smaller and smaller pieces of the original length of the plucked string. This entire concept is the basis of how the major scale sounds "right" (it uses frequency ratios that match the harmonic frequencies of stable musical tones), why the dominant is known as such since they are naturally related to its root and play a core role in defining the tonal center of anything, and why the circle of fifths is incremented the way it is. When going clockwise you advance by 5ths (in scale interval terms) and go down by 4ths counter-clockwise. The inner circle is made up of the notes that are the "relative key" the outer-ring's collection of major root notes. Meaning, that when using the major "note selection pattern" (whole and half steps, i.e. WWHWWWH) and start with C, then you would also "choose" the same notes using the minor "note selection pattern" (WHWWHWW) and starting on A. This is why A minor (Am) is below C on the circle of fifths (they are essentially the same key with just different center points), and since the majority of music is in a major/minor key, designing it this way allows us shortcuts: When you take any 3x2 chunk of the circle of fifths (any 3 connected increments of the outer ring on top of the 3 connected increments directly below it), your middle note out of the connected group of 3 in the outer ring will be your major tonal center (let's stick with C) and the middle note below in the inner ring (Am) is the minor tonal center. From this chunk of 6 notes you are now looking at 6/7 of the primary chords (excludes the diminished 7th chord) for both C major and A minor! -C Major, F Major, G Major, A Minor, D Minor, E Minor -The above chords/notes are also the same ones found D Dorian, and E Phrygian, and F Lydian, and G Mixolydian, as well! (This selections excludes the Locrian mode) Slide the 3x2 "box" to any other note as the center point to quickly discover/remember at a glance all of the chords that belong to the minor and major keys of that root- this is just one of the many powerful secrets of the circle of fifths- but obviously the design comes at the cost of sacrificing geometric lineart aesthetics, lol /monologue
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Y improvised a bit with the tones of the Hexagon, and I found out, that you can create all major and minor harmonys of all 12 notes, only by changing 1 halfstep per triad... interesting.
Hey Josh, great stuff. Did someone ever play this stuff back to you? I started watching and playing the notes of the few shapes you drew this could be a great way to teach kids about music - I will surely try it with mine Best,
Great to see you using sacred geometry to music. I studied with Pat Martino for many years and that’s his whole approach to the theory of guitar when written out is sacred geometry, great work!
Hexagon will always give you a whole tone scale, triangles will always give you an augmented triad. This is basically just an extension or another way of looking at mod 12 and post tonal theory, although it could be applied in a tonal or modal sense as well.
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Awesome!!! Thanks a lot!!! I am studying illustration. I have some music composition so studying music as well (I gave up on my IT career.. no I got no money but I am happy as heaven. I was studying geometry and trying to mix into music. And luckily I just came across your video. Man, nice motivation. I am a beginner. Once again, thank you so much for your time! Cheers!
This is a great video! Thank-you for making it :) I would really love to see an explanation of your other diagrams in greater detail if you decide to make some more videos.
Wow, you remind me of myself. Lol. I have some videos on RUclips with mirroring music and some of the kooky patterns in music, but I haven't dabbled with fibbonacci so that was neat to see. Anyway, you seem snazzy and I totally do the same sort of stuff like mirroring noteson a music clef for the scales I. Order of Flats and sharps. : )
I'm very interested in the CEG# that resulted from the triangle superimposed over the flower. A major scale with a #5 suggests the Lydian mode which has time and again been noted as the "brightest" mode. I'm also curious to know what the scales the Platonic solids would reveal.
Joshua Metz Yo man, I'm a junior in high school. When I get a laptop I will begin pursuing a career in music production. My geometry teacher told us that we have a project every year where we have to connect anything of our choice to geometry. I thought it'd be cool to make a song or something that used geometry as the backbone. I don't know much about music or about mathematics. But I just always had the strong feeling that math was in music. Could you guide me somewhere that'll help me understand geometry easily and also prepare me to know what you're talking about in this video? I was confused the whole time. The only things familiar were the spiral, the flower of life (it was used as artwork for three of my favorite artists' ep's), and the music notes.
I like geometry better than all the other maths I've taken. I don't know why. I find the relationship between shapes, life, philosophy, and music so beautiful.
Having seen all of tge objections to how this fits into standard modern notes in the system of equal intonation, a better question might be to ask what this would look like if you apply these algorithms to integer frequencies instead?
I'm inspired, Have you thought of adding the relative scale for each of the notes in the circle. They'd look like tentacles hanging from your flower. You could number each of the scales notes 1-7, with the root (numbered 1) at the innermost, 7th (numbered 7 obviously) at the outermost. It's a musical universe model of what works in that song key??? You could do some really complex things by some how extrapolating data from it somehow, great for scale training too. Thank you.
Your visual representation of the music of the spheres makes so much more sense than classical music theory courses. You could have probably made a pretty penny by expanding the topic/selling pdf's but you generously shared your notes (no pun intended) in less than 20 minutes. Namaste to you as well. 🙏
What a generous and thoughtful compliment! Thank you for your time! I have often thought about how I could have easily profited from this somehow, but I would just rather share it with the public!
I'd be worried that someone would steal the idea and repackage it in a flashier format to generate a profit for themselves. Anyway, if I ever compose anything decent, karma will be owed to you and not all those staid classes.Thank you again and see you in your next video 🙏
enjoyed the simplicity, and the presentation. The Flower of Life, and Sacred Geometry incorporate all the secrets of our universe. Therefore you have embarked upon a journey that will ultimately provide you with all possible music. Known and unknown. Bon Voyage!
This is so interesting! I love the passion you are bringing into the info. I am following you. If you appreciate feedback, I hope you don't mind my thoughts here: If you could figure out how to organize and simplify (in terms of scanning the grids on to the screen, less of rustling of the papers, buzzing of the phone, yaddayadda...) I would feel more comfortable sharing this stuff to my friends and family. Otherwise, there is too much going on. Cheers!
I just realized that the hexagon in the chromatic circle contains the same notes as in the circle of 5ths I also realized that if you take every note (in the cirlce of 5ths) that falls out of the hexagon, and swap it with it's opponent, you'll get the chromatic circle. And vice versa of course.
Tool lateralus 1 Black 1 then 2 white are 3 all I see 5 in my infancy. 8 red and yellow then came to be, 5 reaching out to me. 3 ets me see. 13 As below, so above and beyond, I imagine 8 drawn beyond the lines of reason. 5 Push the envelope. 3 Watch it bend.
Dude cool! I've been doing some similar stuff, and using a circle I came up with a way to know how all scales relate. ie; how many notes they share. Really opened up my musical possibilities to being able to handle any chord any time.
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dude that whole tone hexagon scale is the "dream sequence" scale they used it in rugrats a lot. but it's usually played on a harp going up as someone remembers back or goes into a dream on TV or in movies.
try to draw more than 1 flower... the middle flower interacts with the sorounding ones. so in the middle flower you have 6 neighbor flowers interacting with the center one. Maybe you can find some interesting things here too. Good Luck
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thanks this is great. I just had worked it out myself. I also had worked out the major, minor, etc scale pattern in the same way you have demsotrated. around a circle. the fibonacci series seems to be so present on any and everything music should be taught with those principles rather. your thoughts on tunning? 432 vs 440
you should really consider publishing your works via pdf. since this video ive become a huge fan of yours and really have enjoyed your works. Im really interested in seeing your whole notebook and appreciate. Would it be possible if you could send me a copy via PDF? I would really appreciated i love all this sacred geometry and its influence in music.
Keep counting (13 over 1, 14 over 2) and mark the prime numbers (hint leave out all the numerbers that aren't primes :D). Then compare it to the Counterspace of a toroid of a magnetic field (the hyperboloid) or put it from the duodecimal system back into the decimal system and then see the double helix aka DNA :)
got it, thanks, nice approach... never endless psychedelic spiral, fractal shizzle love it have you any experience putting, steps rhythm, or any modificatian parameter values in a circle and drawing nice pictures? sounds also fun not?
Thank you for your insight, Josh. I try to compose from a spiritual point. (Don't know if it is successful.) and this sparked my interest. From your demonstration is really seems to hark back to Asian music qualities. Look at the Debussy and Ravel, from just your two examples we have an augmented triad and a whole tone scale, both are heavily used in their music. I like using these because you can easily modulate to different keys, (like travelling when meditation to other "worlds") and importantly, they sound spiritual and other-worldly.
The hexagon shape is just a whole tone scale. It's impossible to find a scale that no one has thought of or used, because 12 notes is a limited framework in which all permuatations are definable by stats math. It only becomes partially unlimited if you use scales that have different notes while ascending or descending; but then it's technically a chromatic scale with tonal modifications that aren't constant. This circle method can help you find new sounds that are already out there, but it's mostly good for visualizing sounds you are already familiar with. It's a great way to solidify one's spacial understanding of the math involved in music.
I am looking for a good compass what type is that one you have? . I found a nice solid steel 12" one at Harbor Freight don't have a name on it though and the package is gone but they have em Nice and cheap really good quality. Nice video I subbed you Thanks for this input
dude! so fun! I had the same idea but i found the circle for dropping the twelve notes way closer than that, in the 12 numbers of a clock (i counted only chromatic) but after drawing/mapping a couple of chords and discovering that the symmetrical triangle was the augmented chord and the sqare was the diminished and telling my sister "oooh look at this neat thing I've found out!" I just left it and went back to play actual guitar
Totally awesome video, man! The time you have put into this is inspiring. Being a University student, If you have a scanned copy of it available, I would love to buy it!!!
Mate, this video might be a godsend ngl. I'm doing some fantasty worldbuilding and came up with the idea of this strange group of giants that sort of worship sound and resonance, as they can somehow divine universal truths through a kind of meditative/higher state induced by certain frequencies. Well anyway, i had some idea they represent strange geometry and their bells are tuned a specific way relative to the fibonacci sequence, but i know absolutely nothing about it or how i could implement that. I decided to use the fibonacci sequence cos i remember it being representes as a spiral, and i called the guys the spiral anchorites due to the cochlea being a spiral in the ear, so that fits haha. Anyway im rambling, thank you!
Good video and very good points! The only thing I find questionable is that the "circle of fifths" as far as I understand is only a circle if considered in equal temperament, which is an "unnatural" system devised to build more simple keyboard instruments, sacrificing the purity of natural intervals. Normally you would have a "spiral of fifths" rather than a circle, because of the Pythgorean comma.
It's a good idea, only there aren't irrational tones that the ear can differentiate. Unfortunately, this means we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between notes after about the 9th or 10th division, although there may be a way to compensate so that the musical counterpart still uses whole numbers rather than fractions/irrational numbers. Great thought!
Very interesting technique. I've heard that Bach implemented a version of this technique some times(he was deeply into numerology). The hexagon shape is a whole tone scale btw. all of the notes fit together harmonically. play them in random chords on a keyboard it's fun.
I have a feeling you just exposed how Tool builds progressions. The symbol displayed above in their shows may correlate to the shape used to build their progressions. Genius!
This is a whirlwind, somewhat random, tour of your thoughts about this but it's very stimulating. This is really cool stuff and is worth doing a methodical video with a more organized explanation. But it has stimulated me to try playing with these tools. I'm very interested in how we find/create meaning in music and I think these concepts can provide one window into that. Thank You!
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Hexagon in the circle in music theory is known as a 'whole tone scale' For examples check Debussy, in jazz it was part of Thelonious Monk's vibe
"I found this ruler on the side of the road, little beat but it's still good."
Gold.
I wrote an essay on this (20+ years ago) called Hermetic Music for the 21st Century Musician...I'll have to post links here when I get a chance. I created a whole system for "Pentacles of Aural Symetry" and "Septacles of Aural Symetry" with different species...
There is a lot more to this...for instance...the different species I defined wound have different complimentary characteristics to each other. So you can create different textures by mixing the penticles etc...
Have you posted it yet?
kind reminder sir
The applications of using the flower of life and/or the Fibonacci sequence is infinite. Why are there no mixers that have this capability (to create music out of shapes)??? …. and if you can find one, let us all know where to buy it.
That sounds epic, checking it out now, thanks mate! I'm a violinist and this is super interesting, I'm also reeally intrigued by the color frequencies that notes create...
You got my attention, go on.
Find the sum of all angles of each shape and each sacred geometric expression and then use those as vibrational frequencies to find the "frequency" or "sound" of a shape
Great ideas!
Been trying to figure out how to do this for years. Dying to take the geometric artwork from megalithic structures from around the world and convert the shape into frequency. The answers are here, we have to find them on our own this time around... peace, love, and light ❤
@@theawesomposum so glad and joyful to hear others are opening their minds in such a way as calculated as this, thank you for responding and reminding me of the mindset i had a year prior to this day
The CDEF#G#A# scale is a whole tone scale, best examples in DeBussy's work, jazz music ... Star Trek teleport sound FX features a whole tone scale. Sacred doodling ...
i didnt get the gabcis dis f (sol, la, si, dó, ? ? fá)? in a G7 you would use G-A-B-C#-D#-F-G no?
@@rui4659, Perhaps it would fit in a G augmented 7, which I learnt as G+7 (different from Gmaj7 !) .
So the tones g - b - d'# - f'.
Italiano: sol - si - re¹ diesis - fa¹.
Deutsch: g - h - dis - f.
do you know where I can learn more about the origins of music theory in terms of sacred teachings and geometry? I'm looking for a foundation, thank you
@@oneuno8286 i think he mentioned spirt science in the video
There's books about it. Origins go back to Pythagoras in ancient greece.
I liked your video, this is a topic i find fascinating!
Another fun fact that i have noticed is that if you follow one side of the flower pedal and cross over onto the other side in the middle as you go across, it makes a Sine wave, which is the fundamental note in a chord, and if you implement the other sine waves, then you start adding harmonics and making chords, very cool stuff, thanks for sharing!
check giussepe verdi tuning in XIX century A4=432 hz C0=16 hz C1=32 C2=64 C3=128 C4=256 hz C5=512 and so on.... all exact multiple of 8 (that is why we call them octaves) :)
Thank you for this! Great insight!
Whole Tone is the layout of Double-Second Steelpan drum
Circle of Fifths is the layout of the Tenor Steelpan drum
Tritones complete the Sacred Geometry mapping on the Circle of Fifths… so that instead of half there is an equal and opposite WHOLE.
@PlayitonPan
The edges of two circles connect in the center of a third circle in between the two, and the edges of the third circle are the centers of the first two circles drawn side by side (almost like a figure 8 aideways. ♾ or perhaps something that looks like this 00 or ⭕⭕ with the two circles side bynside). The centers go to the edge, and the edges go to the center in sacred geometry when adding to it. Just like with music, when you add a sharp or flat to a scale, it contains half the scale of the scale with one less flat and half the scale of the scale that has one more sharp.
(Notes for scale with one flat)
F G A Bb - CDEF
You take the second half of the scale above for the scale without any flats or sharps which is C major.
CdEF.
Then you take the first half of G major scale (which is the scale with an added sharp or one sharp) to use aa the last half of the C majpr scale.
(Last half of scale with one flat= CDEF
CdEF. - GABC
GABC = first half of scale with one sharp (which is GABC - D E F# G).
So the center notes of C major scale F and G become the ends or beginning points or notes of next scale going both ways ( to add a sharp or a flat for F scale and G scale).
Does that make sense. This correlates with the sacred geometry where the centers of a circle becomes the edges of 2 circles going out both ways fron each side of the first circle.
Makes sense to me! Tag me if you make a video about it!
I wonder if the circle of fifths theory could be used to determine how DNA combinations could affect a person's health. Or whether the magnification of each person's fingerprints could be used to determine a specific chord progression for each person so that everybody has their own individual song.
Dang now that would be bad ass!
Great thought!
It’s like the “heart song” from Happy Feet😭
This could be relevant to an individual’s resonance frequency
I'm glad you mentioned the potential of other tunings. I was gonna say, the 12 note western equal tempered ("tampered" 😛) scale is actually an unnatural bastardization of the natural harmonic series.
So, I'd say this is just making awesome patterns with 12 equidistant points around a circle.
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Really wonderful video. I've played various instruments and composed for years but only recently began learning about sacred geometry and music. I can see how some people might be having a hard time understanding what you're talking about, but with a solid background in music and the flower of life I get what you're talking about and I am really thankful for the extra peek in your notebook because that gives me some great ideas for my own experimentation. So, thanks so very much for sharing your ideas! (Also, like Roby King I would be very interested in seeing a pdf of your notebook.) Really great work! =D
I'd love to share with you some of my discoveries, perhaps I will make a better video explaining some of my better ideas and findings ;) Thanks for the interest!
I would love that =D
Joshua Metz .....Thanks, w/ no knowledge ,a little, or a lot ...you help and open some people ideas......thanks.
Gwen Ap Mannanan I also have a solid background in music as I am a classically trained violinist. It is all very eye opening.
Dude this is really really awesome great explanation easy to follow I love it this is exactly how I compose music and how I bounce around the music notes. I can literally just see a sacred geometry figure in my head and then use that as my progression in scale and don’t have to count or remember what timing I am using because as long as I can see the shape in my head I always know exactly to break and change things up. I am extremely simply use this method for gigs played out. Awesome job!
Thank you so much for these kind words!
Any resource material for ancient sacred symbols drawable on this?
I kind of just made this up to be honest, but I'm interested in exploring more because people seem to really like this video
As a musician myself currently studying jazz/ contemporary theory, this has opened my eyes to a whole new world. Would love to have a beer with you and look through that notebook...
*disney song plays in my head* "it's a whole new wooorldd"
No. People are constantly warned about the risks involved in meeting people online. What if you are a serial killer?
kvsupriseThank you. My words. It seems funny, but jazz musicians seem to be more open for unorthodox approaches to music then people with classical training. Maybe that's because people studying classical music just have one goal: To conserve what's already achieved throughout the history of classical music, while jazz musicians are more likely to be creative and live the joy of madness. I think if the old classical geniusses could observe what is going on in the world of classical music today, it would make them feel flattered on one hand but sad on the other hand: There are only a few composeres left compared with the golden days. Keep playing jazz and try out unorthodox ways and enjoy yourself doing so
That's very possible to achieve! Please feel free to reach out!
I have been deeply interested in the concept of viewing our world in higher dimensions, so I tried to bring the concept of shapes in music. Then I tried to bring the concept of perceiving different shapes in "different dimensions" towards music. Then it brought me towards this concept. A buddy of mine and I discussed this for weeks and then I finally remembered sacred geometry and the fact that we have the internet, then I found this video, haha. All I can say is thank you. This basic explanation has become a tool that I'm going to use in so many ways that I never imagined being able to grasp. Excellent creativity.
Erik Gampick Yes people find the flower of life pattern or sacred geometry at the time in their lives when they need it or are ready for it ;) Sacred geometry is a connection with our spirits and our chakras which are flower shaped lotuses in sacred geometric form with which we travel from body to body or reincarnation, so yes when one learns more of the secret of the flower of life, one becomes connected with a deeper purpose and meaning behind life, existence, and many other connections to our true selves, much love to you my friend, Om mani padmi Hum, which means the jewel in the heart of the lotus :)
What is a dimension? A cube is three dimensional. A square is viewing the cube in two dimensional space from top or sides. What is the cubes view on 4-d space? This is what I do not understand.
Always-Stay-Positive
You physically cannot perceive it. That is the whole point. We are bound to this dimension.
Erik Gampick One can see the other dimensions my friend, it can be done as I have seen the etheric energy before in the form of the flower of life pattern and came out of m body into another dimension and I saw the sacred geometric form that makes up the chakras or flower of life, and that is the secret behind the other dimensions is that it is attained through the chakras and coming out of the crown chakra and then you see the other dimension we are all talking about, the ancients speak of the flower of life being the secret to the other dimensions and yes they are very real and can seen with the eyes as well my friend as I can attest to it ;) Om mani padmi hum... which means the jewel in the heart of the lotus flower and now you know what they mean ;)
I enjoyed your drawings and demonstrations! You've put some time into that. Well done. Great stuff! Its exactly what i've been pondering about (using geometry and the golden ratio rule to explore differerent chord progressions). What i'll try (and maybe you've already tried) is to draw more than one circle, i.e. a second circle created from a point of the first. Both circles could begin at different intervals of a chosen scale, i.e. one circle scale beginning with C as you demonstrated, and the other beginning at the 1st inversion (E) or the second inversion (G), Then draw your geometric shapes from one circle to the other for a 2 dimensional perspective ( or 3 circles for a 3 dimensional perspective) What cha reckon?
its all about context (rhythm) and relationships of intervals to the center(source).
True, I should play with this theory and apply it to drumming!
Fantastic, I leaned a lot... Will use this when exploring / playing my sax...
If you made this into a book, I would buy it.
I'd suggest you buy a calculus book, seeing as that's a form of mathematics that's actually functional and applicable to real life problems.
Yes!
@@isaiahphillip4112 thank you
including a solid, simplified foundational intro to the music theory behind this. Anyone have any links to teach me the basics?
@@oneuno8286 This is neither math nor music. Look elsewhere for good books or videos for both topics. This guy's a fake and a fraud.
Mr. Smirk, I have something amazing to share. I have developed a keyboard that applies color-shape notes (as i see them) to a honeycomb pattern. The amazing thing i began to realize there is a parallel not only to the chromatic notes & chromatic color, but the the emotions attached to specific keys.
Would love to hear any first-impressions of my Musicolor Matirx keyboard and my Theory of Pitch Psychology. You should be able to click directly on the rainbow-rabbit icon to find me.
Thanks for presenting this helpful video.
This video got me into a pretty big music theory monologue, long post ahead:
This is definitely a cool experiment because of of how tonality is linear as much as it is circular, which allows geometry and math to intersect with music theory in interesting ways as you've demonstrated via this exploration of polygons in relation to the 12 half-step scale represented as a circle.
You also made note that this representation is similar to, but also different from, the circle of fifths. While it still adheres to the chromatic 12 semitone scale, the note increment and double circle band design of the circle of fifths was structured under the observation that all tones are actually accompanied by an infinite collection of fainter, higher, frequencies centered around the root frequency. These are just other frequencies that are basically "produced" by the presence of a fundamental/frequency alone (many can be isolated/heard, look up the harmonic/overtone series demonstration by Leonard Bernstein) and are what define the very science of what musically sounds "right" and "wrong" to the human ear.
This is because all sounds in nature produce harmonic frequencies (sometimes called overtones); the only way to produce a tone without harmonic frequencies occurring is via sine waves (more math)!
When a sound has seemingly no structure between the root frequency and the harmonic frequencies around it, it sounds like noise to our ears.
If the relationship (tonal distance) between the root frequency and its harmonic frequencies are in the right ratios (known as stable/natural relationships) then they sound like "actual musical tones."
The easiest way to understand why harmonic frequencies are always present and what makes them "natural" is to look at how sound is produced on a material level with anything vibration-related such as strings on a guitar.
The properties of how a string vibrates after being plucked is actually kind of complex:
When you pluck an open string, let's say the low E string, the string only "ripples" down the its /entire/ length once before the wave energy doubles back from both ends of the string and is now rippling/vibrating in two equal halves (an octave apart/of the root) of the string length, then rippling into a ratio of equal thirds of the string length (this is the first "different" overtone present, known as the dominant/5th note in a major scale), then into a ratio of fourths of the string length (another octave of the root), then into fifths of the string length (known as the 3rd in major scales), then into sixths and etc.- all of which are producing sound along with the root tone but just fainter and much higher as they are using geometrically smaller and smaller pieces of the original length of the plucked string.
This entire concept is the basis of how the major scale sounds "right" (it uses frequency ratios that match the harmonic frequencies of stable musical tones), why the dominant is known as such since they are naturally related to its root and play a core role in defining the tonal center of anything, and why the circle of fifths is incremented the way it is. When going clockwise you advance by 5ths (in scale interval terms) and go down by 4ths counter-clockwise.
The inner circle is made up of the notes that are the "relative key" the outer-ring's collection of major root notes. Meaning, that when using the major "note selection pattern" (whole and half steps, i.e. WWHWWWH) and start with C, then you would also "choose" the same notes using the minor "note selection pattern" (WHWWHWW) and starting on A. This is why A minor (Am) is below C on the circle of fifths (they are essentially the same key with just different center points), and since the majority of music is in a major/minor key, designing it this way allows us shortcuts:
When you take any 3x2 chunk of the circle of fifths (any 3 connected increments of the outer ring on top of the 3 connected increments directly below it), your middle note out of the connected group of 3 in the outer ring will be your major tonal center (let's stick with C) and the middle note below in the inner ring (Am) is the minor tonal center.
From this chunk of 6 notes you are now looking at 6/7 of the primary chords (excludes the diminished 7th chord) for both C major and A minor!
-C Major, F Major, G Major, A Minor, D Minor, E Minor
-The above chords/notes are also the same ones found D Dorian, and E Phrygian, and F Lydian, and G Mixolydian, as well! (This selections excludes the Locrian mode)
Slide the 3x2 "box" to any other note as the center point to quickly discover/remember at a glance all of the chords that belong to the minor and major keys of that root- this is just one of the many powerful secrets of the circle of fifths- but obviously the design comes at the cost of sacrificing geometric lineart aesthetics, lol
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Y improvised a bit with the tones of the Hexagon, and I found out, that you can create all major and minor harmonys of all 12 notes, only by changing 1 halfstep per triad... interesting.
Hey Josh, great stuff. Did someone ever play this stuff back to you?
I started watching and playing the notes of the few shapes you drew
this could be a great way to teach kids about music - I will surely try it with mine
Best,
13:44 Good on you for using the long scale "billion" and not the short scale!
great work...well...still lots to be discovered. Hope to see more from you.
Thank you for your interest! I'll be posting more often from now on!
Nice clear presentation Joshua. Have you played around with metatrons cube and semitones at all yet?
Great to see you using sacred geometry to music. I studied with Pat Martino for many years and that’s his whole approach to the theory of guitar when written out is sacred geometry, great work!
Thanks! I need to make a new video showing what I've been up to, but life keeps me busy! Glad to see my old stuff is still holding up ♥️
Hexagon will always give you a whole tone scale, triangles will always give you an augmented triad. This is basically just an extension or another way of looking at mod 12 and post tonal theory, although it could be applied in a tonal or modal sense as well.
Why have you not uploaded anything about this anymore? It’s amazing
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can you explain why you transfered G on your C#, and A on your D#, etc...
Many thanks
WOW bough! I have just started to get into this and connecting it and lo and behold.
Nice!
Music is amazingly more complex than you may seem.
Awesome!!! Thanks a lot!!!
I am studying illustration. I have some music composition so studying music as well (I gave up on my IT career.. no I got no money but I am happy as heaven. I was studying geometry and trying to mix into music. And luckily I just came across your video. Man, nice motivation. I am a beginner. Once again, thank you so much for your time!
Cheers!
Great. This I.t. Stuff is too common. You will make a hood living with what you are now studying.
This is a great video! Thank-you for making it :) I would really love to see an explanation of your other diagrams in greater detail if you decide to make some more videos.
I'd love to bring that to you! Thank you for your interest, stay tuned!
Wow, you remind me of myself. Lol. I have some videos on RUclips with mirroring music and some of the kooky patterns in music, but I haven't dabbled with fibbonacci so that was neat to see. Anyway, you seem snazzy and I totally do the same sort of stuff like mirroring noteson a music clef for the scales I. Order of Flats and sharps. : )
I'm very interested in the CEG# that resulted from the triangle superimposed over the flower. A major scale with a #5 suggests the Lydian mode which has time and again been noted as the "brightest" mode.
I'm also curious to know what the scales the Platonic solids would reveal.
This looks promising to find new ways to find new scales for my improvising or composing. Thanks a lot!
Joshua Metz Yo man, I'm a junior in high school. When I get a laptop I will begin pursuing a career in music production. My geometry teacher told us that we have a project every year where we have to connect anything of our choice to geometry. I thought it'd be cool to make a song or something that used geometry as the backbone. I don't know much about music or about mathematics. But I just always had the strong feeling that math was in music. Could you guide me somewhere that'll help me understand geometry easily and also prepare me to know what you're talking about in this video? I was confused the whole time. The only things familiar were the spiral, the flower of life (it was used as artwork for three of my favorite artists' ep's), and the music notes.
Thanks!
I like geometry better than all the other maths I've taken. I don't know why. I find the relationship between shapes, life, philosophy, and music so beautiful.
One more thought. What happens when you use pi and radian measurements in your drawings as it is a more perfect measure of parts of a circle?
Great idea!
Having seen all of tge objections to how this fits into standard modern notes in the system of equal intonation, a better question might be to ask what this would look like if you apply these algorithms to integer frequencies instead?
I'm inspired, Have you thought of adding the relative scale for each of the notes in the circle. They'd look like tentacles hanging from your flower. You could number each of the scales notes 1-7, with the root (numbered 1) at the innermost, 7th (numbered 7 obviously) at the outermost. It's a musical universe model of what works in that song key??? You could do some really complex things by some how extrapolating data from it somehow, great for scale training too.
Thank you.
Your visual representation of the music of the spheres makes so much more sense than classical music theory courses. You could have probably made a pretty penny by expanding the topic/selling pdf's but you generously shared your notes (no pun intended) in less than 20 minutes. Namaste to you as well. 🙏
What a generous and thoughtful compliment! Thank you for your time! I have often thought about how I could have easily profited from this somehow, but I would just rather share it with the public!
I'd be worried that someone would steal the idea and repackage it in a flashier format to generate a profit for themselves. Anyway, if I ever compose anything decent, karma will be owed to you and not all those staid classes.Thank you again and see you in your next video 🙏
The hexagon at 16:36 can be heard at the beginning of kraftwerk - spacelab (/watch?v=VH0Js8qdnyA).
i just tried to use that scale to write a chord progression and i felt like i was remaking the kraftwerk track. complete mindfuck
Garrett Robledo great now it took me til right now to realize there are only 2 chords in that scale.
Garrett Robledo
lol funny shit.
enjoyed the simplicity, and the presentation. The Flower of Life, and Sacred Geometry incorporate all the secrets of our universe. Therefore you have embarked upon a journey that will ultimately provide you with all possible music. Known and unknown. Bon Voyage!
Thats right!
Dude! I did this same thing tonight for the first time and searched the relation and found this video.....brilliant brother!
Your ideas are brilliant.
You should publish this in a book...
If you do I want to purchase it.
Please donate and I'm more than happy to begin publishing my work! Thank you for the support!
This is so interesting! I love the passion you are bringing into the info. I am following you.
If you appreciate feedback, I hope you don't mind my thoughts here:
If you could figure out how to organize and simplify (in terms of scanning the grids on to the screen, less of rustling of the papers, buzzing of the phone, yaddayadda...) I would feel more comfortable sharing this stuff to my friends and family. Otherwise, there is too much going on.
Cheers!
Im interested in. I love to play the guitar and sing. But do i apply it
Many Thanks ! God Bless you
I just realized that the hexagon in the chromatic circle contains the same notes as in the circle of 5ths I also realized that if you take every note (in the cirlce of 5ths) that falls out of the hexagon, and swap it with it's opponent, you'll get the chromatic circle. And vice versa of course.
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3 all I see
5 in my infancy.
8 red and yellow then came to be,
5 reaching out to me.
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13 As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
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Dude cool! I've been doing some similar stuff, and using a circle I came up with a way to know how all scales relate. ie; how many notes they share. Really opened up my musical possibilities to being able to handle any chord any time.
have you made any interesting melodies/chord progressions or is this really just a model for memorizing notes of a given scale??
I love how me made a hexagon and didn't say WHOLE TONE SCALE
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I was so confused, like huh? Wholetone is not an obscure scale!
dude that whole tone hexagon scale is the "dream sequence" scale they used it in rugrats a lot. but it's usually played on a harp going up as someone remembers back or goes into a dream on TV or in movies.
11:39 i would like to know why you chose the points you chose for those scales
try to draw more than 1 flower... the middle flower interacts with the sorounding ones. so in the middle flower you have 6 neighbor flowers interacting with the center one. Maybe you can find some interesting things here too. Good Luck
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thanks this is great. I just had worked it out myself. I also had worked out the major, minor, etc scale pattern in the same way you have demsotrated. around a circle. the fibonacci series seems to be so present on any and everything music should be taught with those principles rather.
your thoughts on tunning? 432 vs 440
you should really consider publishing your works via pdf. since this video ive become a huge fan of yours and really have enjoyed your works. Im really interested in seeing your whole notebook and appreciate. Would it be possible if you could send me a copy via PDF? I would really appreciated i love all this sacred geometry and its influence in music.
Good idea! I will see what I can do for you, my friend.
thank you man, get back at me when you feel ready, ill love to try out your theories in my music production
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This is just an amazing way to open the mind to different possibilities. Is there a book I could buy to get deeper into this?
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The hexagon diagram at the end represents the whole note scale, used in jazz a lot.
ive been waiting for someone to do this man!
Keep counting (13 over 1, 14 over 2) and mark the prime numbers (hint leave out all the numerbers that aren't primes :D). Then compare it to the Counterspace of a toroid of a magnetic field (the hyperboloid) or put it from the duodecimal system back into the decimal system and then see the double helix aka DNA :)
Thank you for showing us your work, I found it very educational. You've inspired me to write my opus. I shall call it "Polygon With the Wind".😁
thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. my music appreciates it :)
got it, thanks, nice approach... never endless psychedelic spiral, fractal shizzle love it
have you any experience putting, steps rhythm, or any modificatian parameter values in a circle and drawing nice pictures? sounds also fun not?
Thank you for your insight, Josh. I try to compose from a spiritual point. (Don't know if it is successful.) and this sparked my interest. From your demonstration is really seems to hark back to Asian music qualities. Look at the Debussy and Ravel, from just your two examples we have an augmented triad and a whole tone scale, both are heavily used in their music. I like using these because you can easily modulate to different keys, (like travelling when meditation to other "worlds") and importantly, they sound spiritual and other-worldly.
The hexagon shape is just a whole tone scale. It's impossible to find a scale that no one has thought of or used, because 12 notes is a limited framework in which all permuatations are definable by stats math. It only becomes partially unlimited if you use scales that have different notes while ascending or descending; but then it's technically a chromatic scale with tonal modifications that aren't constant.
This circle method can help you find new sounds that are already out there, but it's mostly good for visualizing sounds you are already familiar with. It's a great way to solidify one's spacial understanding of the math involved in music.
This is fantastic man. Can't wait to apply it!
I want that notebook😭😭
I still have it!
I am looking for a good compass what type is that one you have? . I found a nice solid steel 12" one at Harbor Freight don't have a name on it though and the package is gone but they have em Nice and cheap really good quality. Nice video I subbed you Thanks for this input
dude! so fun! I had the same idea but i found the circle for dropping the twelve notes way closer than that, in the 12 numbers of a clock (i counted only chromatic) but after drawing/mapping a couple of chords and discovering that the symmetrical triangle was the augmented chord and the sqare was the diminished and telling my sister "oooh look at this neat thing I've found out!" I just left it and went back to play actual guitar
+johncarcinogen looking back, it's fancier with the flower of life, tho you have to "make up" 6 spaces out of 12
+johncarcinogen if you draw out from the seed into the flower the relationship is completed, without adding any points.
Totally awesome video, man! The time you have put into this is inspiring. Being a University student, If you have a scanned copy of it available, I would love to buy it!!!
Please donate and I will gladly send you everything!
Thanks for watching!
Cool stuff! Thanks for making this!
can you upload the video with sound please?
in oriental arabic instruments there are 2 more notes between C and other notes as well
Wonderful!!! Thank you so much for sharing!
really thank u i really apreciate the simply way how u xplain it
Mate, this video might be a godsend ngl. I'm doing some fantasty worldbuilding and came up with the idea of this strange group of giants that sort of worship sound and resonance, as they can somehow divine universal truths through a kind of meditative/higher state induced by certain frequencies. Well anyway, i had some idea they represent strange geometry and their bells are tuned a specific way relative to the fibonacci sequence, but i know absolutely nothing about it or how i could implement that. I decided to use the fibonacci sequence cos i remember it being representes as a spiral, and i called the guys the spiral anchorites due to the cochlea being a spiral in the ear, so that fits haha. Anyway im rambling, thank you!
Good video and very good points! The only thing I find questionable is that the "circle of fifths" as far as I understand is only a circle if considered in equal temperament, which is an "unnatural" system devised to build more simple keyboard instruments, sacrificing the purity of natural intervals. Normally you would have a "spiral of fifths" rather than a circle, because of the Pythgorean comma.
I wonder if there are correlating patterns for something along the lines of a Escher image.
I wish you would play a bit of your musical discovery.
Please check my other videos, I play in a band and our music is derived from these lessons! Thank you for your comments!
So all you need are a compass and ruler? Where have i seen those before?
Thank you! As a person who never had any musical background, this is really helpful and interesting thing to experiment with.
Your awesome. And "I found this ruler on the side of the road" made my week. Hahah
Wow this is actually a really great way of depicting scales! Especially for more visual earners like myself :)
Did you try and graph the golden ratio? Fib numbers divided by the previos number so 1, 2, 3/2, 5/3, 8/5, 13/8?
It's a good idea, only there aren't irrational tones that the ear can differentiate. Unfortunately, this means we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between notes after about the 9th or 10th division, although there may be a way to compensate so that the musical counterpart still uses whole numbers rather than fractions/irrational numbers. Great thought!
Very interesting technique. I've heard that Bach implemented a version of this technique some times(he was deeply into numerology). The hexagon shape is a whole tone scale btw. all of the notes fit together harmonically. play them in random chords on a keyboard it's fun.
Great video! This actually became a new album project of its own, I found this very inspiring.Thanks!
I have a feeling you just exposed how Tool builds progressions. The symbol displayed above in their shows may correlate to the shape used to build their progressions. Genius!
This is a whirlwind, somewhat random, tour of your thoughts about this but it's very stimulating. This is really cool stuff and is worth doing a methodical video with a more organized explanation. But it has stimulated me to try playing with these tools. I'm very interested in how we find/create meaning in music and I think these concepts can provide one window into that. Thank You!
The only meanings in pop music are found in the lyrics. The melody and notes are just what seems to sound right to the musician.
Dr Royal Rife. Worth the research
thank you for posting this, i look forward to more!
More to come!
This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you!
I love the way your mind works! Thanks for sharing with us.
Thank you, this was amazing!
Thanks for watching!
9:20 It has perfectly no parallel lines at all. Wow.
I like your approach to this concept I also use a similar approach, but I do see that you are missing some pieces to this puzzle though.
ill see if I cant make a song with any of the diagram note progression.